- Frontier - wrote:

probox im your big fan

Halfslashed wrote:

No, I didn't forget.

1. wtf are these tags
2. normal-sliderslide.wav is unused
3. according to modding assistant, soft-sliderslide.wav and soft-sliderslide4.wav aren't proper blanks, replace them with this .wav file instead

1. 01:01:912 (1) - part of the slider border is slightly offscreen for those using a 4:3 resolution
2. 04:19:537 (2) - off screen slider
3. 01:01:312 (3,1,1,1) - not sure how i feel about this rhythm choice; music is placing emphasis on 01:01:312 - 01:01:462 - 01:01:537 - 01:01:687 - 01:01:672 - and 01:01:837 - . having a slider start on 01:01:612 (1) - is the only odd rhythm choice.
4. 01:25:912 (1,2) - imo it'd make more sense and nicer aesthetics to start the symmetrical shapes here instead of at 01:27:112 (1) - since this is where the music is starting to get louder
5. 01:32:362 (2,3,4) - 3->4 should have less spacing than 2->3 imo, since you're going from snare to kick. why not try stacking 01:32:662 (4) - with 01:32:062 (1) - ?
6. 01:39:712 (1) - are the whistles on slider body and slider end intentional?
7. 02:35:212 (1,1,2,3) - i'm not normally one to point out blankets too often but holy this is really bad
8. i'd like to see a bit more distinction between Combo Colour 2 and Combo Colour 6; it's a bit hard to tell that 02:34:912 (1) - is a fast slider whereas 02:35:212 (1) - is a slow slider because the colours are so similar to each other. maybe try darkening Combo Colour 6 by a bit
9. 02:47:212 (1) - shouldn't this be Combo Colour 2 if you're going with the "light = slow, dark = fast" thing from before
10. 03:07:312 (1) - this 3/4 reverse slider feels really off with the rest of the section; why suddenly switch to vocals here when you were mapping to synths before and after this? i think it's more appropriate to map to the white/red ticks of the synth
11. 04:07:912 (1) - 3/4 reverse slider doesn't really sound.. right? like what is this mapped to because i don't hear anything that supports a 3/4 reverse slider rhythm
12. 04:09:562 (2) - 04:10:762 (2) - i think you meant to put these timing points on 04:09:487 - and 04:10:687 - instead lol
13. 04:11:662 (2,1) - spacing here is kind of extreme. actually, shouldn't rhythm at 04:11:512 (1,2) - be reversed (Ctrl+G)? 1/4 slider then circle doesn't seem right and doesn't fit with the rest of your rhythms, e.g. at 04:21:112 (1,2) -
14. 04:49:912 (1,2,3) - looks a bit uncomfortable to play with the sudden back-and-forth jerking movements due to the high SV and snaps. why not try switching 04:49:912 (1,2) - in the timeline?
    
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15. 05:15:562 (1,1,1,1,1) - sv increases here are pretty drastic; it literally jumps from 0.50x to 1.00x to 1.50x to 2.0x very suddenly. i think it'll help with the buildup if the sv increase was more gradual, e.g. 0.50x to 0.75x to 1.0x to 1.25x to 1.5x or something to that effect
16. 05:19:312 (1,2,1,2) - should also probably be mirrors of each other, seeing as how you do it with 05:19:912 (1,2,3,1,2,3) and 05:20:512 (1,2,1,2) - -
17. 05:28:912 (1,2,1,2) - ^read the above, although i guess this one might be a bit more difficult due to the limited mapping space you have
18. 05:50:812 (2,1) - also doesn't really fit in with any of the sounds in the music imo. imo i think you can extend 05:49:912 (1) - to 05:50:962 - and then map a slider from 05:51:112 - to 05:52:012 - for the background string sounds
19. 06:09:111 (1) - i might be going crazy but i'm pretty sure the sound here starts on the yellow tick at 06:09:074 -

Doormat wrote:

[Ambivalence]

1. 01:25:912 (1,2) - imo it'd make more sense and nicer aesthetics to start the symmetrical shapes here instead of at 01:27:112 (1) - since this is where the music is starting to get louderit's fine imo, it's just the transition between quiet and loud so it has properties from both: more spaced, but not yet simmetric.
2. 01:32:362 (2,3,4) - 3->4 should have less spacing than 2->3 imo, since you're going from snare to kick. why not try stacking 01:32:662 (4) - with 01:32:062 (1) - ? changed the lazy way
3. 02:35:212 (1,1,2,3) - i'm not normally one to point out blankets too often but holy this is really bad i don't really consider this as something that has to be blanketed. In fact, i don't think it's even possible to blanket them in a decent way without throwing 02:35:212 (1) - off the center. Just try it for yourself, try to blanket 02:35:512 (1) - to 02:35:212 (1) -'s tail and 02:35:812 (3) - to 02:35:212 (1) -'s head, while still looking out for 02:35:662 (2) - and making sure the pattern remains a perfect triangle. In the end you get something like this. I don't know about you but i prefer 02:35:212 (1) - actually beign in the center.
4. 05:15:562 (1,1,1,1,1) - sv increases here are pretty drastic; it literally jumps from 0.50x to 1.00x to 1.50x to 2.0x very suddenly. i think it'll help with the buildup if the sv increase was more gradual, e.g. 0.50x to 0.75x to 1.0x to 1.25x to 1.5x or something to that effect sightly decreased, it's 0,5x > 0,9x > 1,3x > 1,7x now. Still keeping 2.0x on 05:16:312 (1) - , though.
5. 05:19:312 (1,2,1,2) - should also probably be mirrors of each other, seeing as how you do it with 05:19:912 (1,2,3,1,2,3) and 05:20:512 (1,2,1,2) - - ok but... why exactly? It doesn't necessarily have to be like that just because 05:19:912 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - and 05:20:512 (1,2,1,2) - are similiar, right?
6. 05:28:912 (1,2,1,2) - ^read the above, although i guess this one might be a bit more difficult due to the limited mapping space you have same as above, i don't see a reason why they should be like that

Doormat wrote:

Halfslashed wrote:

No, I didn't forget.

Sorry, but I did forget to mod last month LOL

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[General]

1. wtf are these tags xd
2. normal-sliderslide.wav is unused fixd
3. according to modding assistant, soft-sliderslide.wav and soft-sliderslide4.wav aren't proper blanks, replace them with this .wav file instead fixed

[Ambivalence]

1. 01:01:912 (1) - part of the slider border is slightly offscreen for those using a 4:3 resolution fixed i hope
2. 04:19:537 (2) - off screen slider same
3. 01:01:312 (3,1,1,1) - not sure how i feel about this rhythm choice; music is placing emphasis on 01:01:312 - 01:01:462 - 01:01:537 - 01:01:687 - 01:01:672 - and 01:01:837 - . having a slider start on 01:01:612 (1) - is the only odd rhythm choice. This arrangement is consistent with the other one at 00:51:712 (3,4,5,6) - and they are arranged like this since it follows the melody and is imo the best way to map these sounds while still making them fast movement since I wasn't able to do an arrangement with the drum rhythm that would feel as fitting, they would feel underwhelming compared to the intensity in music when compared to my current arrangement
4. 04:09:562 (2) - 04:10:762 (2) - i think you meant to put these timing points on 04:09:487 - and 04:10:687 - instead lol Nope this is intentional
5. 04:11:662 (2,1) - spacing here is kind of extreme. actually, shouldn't rhythm at 04:11:512 (1,2) - be reversed (Ctrl+G)? 1/4 slider then circle doesn't seem right and doesn't fit with the rest of your rhythms, e.g. at 04:21:112 (1,2) - The current way is good because of the spacing you have before it - the "pull" movement here feels very natural and the slider is forgiving by nature so no point in nerfing spacing.
6. 05:50:812 (2,1) - also doesn't really fit in with any of the sounds in the music imo. imo i think you can extend 05:49:912 (1) - to 05:50:962 - and then map a slider from 05:51:112 - to 05:52:012 - for the background string sounds ignoring this 05:50:812 - would be inconsistent and weird - Having 2 long sliders here would also make 05:52:237 (2,1,2,3,1,1,2,3) - a bit weird since I would have slowed down the intensity too much with these long sliders you suggested. Imo the current way also works since it does follow the melody even though it "morphs" during 05:50:962 -
7. 06:09:111 (1) - i might be going crazy but i'm pretty sure the sound here starts on the yellow tick at 06:09:074 - It does - fixed!

fix what you need to fix and we'll see how things go from there

Doormat wrote:

[Ambivalence]

1. i'd like to see a bit more distinction between Combo Colour 2 and Combo Colour 6; it's a bit hard to tell that 02:34:912 (1) - is a fast slider whereas 02:35:212 (1) - is a slow slider because the colours are so similar to each other. maybe try darkening Combo Colour 6 by a bit done
2. 02:47:212 (1) - shouldn't this be Combo Colour 2 if you're going with the "light = slow, dark = fast" thing from before done
3. 03:07:312 (1) - this 3/4 reverse slider feels really off with the rest of the section; why suddenly switch to vocals here when you were mapping to synths before and after this? i think it's more appropriate to map to the white/red ticks of the synth for this section ive been prioritizing mapping the vocals over the synth, as seen in 03:02:512 (1,2) - ,and 03:04:312 (2,2,2) - , it just so happens that 03:07:312 (1) - is the only place here where the vocals dont land on the red tick, so i emphasized it through this long slider, whilst ignoring the synth for this short time. I could do 1/2 sliders instead to hit both but i think it would add too much intensity to a part that should be downtime from the kiai anyways
4. 04:07:912 (1) - 3/4 reverse slider doesn't really sound.. right? like what is this mapped to because i don't hear anything that supports a 3/4 reverse slider rhythm its mapped to the vocoder synth lol, same with 04:08:437 (2,1,2,1,1) -
5. 04:49:912 (1,2,3) - looks a bit uncomfortable to play with the sudden back-and-forth jerking movements due to the high SV and snaps. why not try switching 04:49:912 (1,2) - in the timeline? done

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19:32 Doormat: 04:09:562 (2) - 04:10:762 (2) -
19:32 Doormat: you mentioned that timing points on red tick is intentional
19:33 Doormat: but i find that hard to believe when every other 1/2 slider that goes over a white tick has a timing on its slider end
19:33 Doormat: e.g. 04:11:737 (1) - 04:12:937 (2) - 04:14:737 (2) - 04:19:537 (2) - 04:20:137 (1) - 04:21:337 (3) - etc.
19:33 ProfessionalBox: timing point
19:33 ProfessionalBox: wait
19:33 ProfessionalBox: I might have misread that
19:33 Doormat: green lines
19:33 Doormat: yeah
19:33 ProfessionalBox: as wrong snap
19:33 Doormat: no
19:33 ProfessionalBox: lets see
19:33 Doormat: i was talking about green lines
19:34 ProfessionalBox: the green lines are
19:34 Doormat: sorry i probably could've used better wording
19:34 ProfessionalBox: leftovers from the past
19:34 Doormat: o
19:34 ProfessionalBox: I can delete all of the unnecessary ones
19:34 ProfessionalBox: they serve no purpose
19:34 Doormat: no what i'm saying is
19:34 Doormat: shouldn't the green lines on those two sliders i posted
19:34 Doormat: be moved back to the blue tick
19:34 Doormat: before it
19:35 ProfessionalBox: does it change something? the sampleset?
19:35 Doormat: yeah
19:35 ProfessionalBox: oh i know why
19:35 ProfessionalBox: sliderslide1 is muted
19:35 ProfessionalBox: that's why the green line is there?
19:36 Doormat: it's affecting the slider end though
19:36 ProfessionalBox: to mute the slider
19:36 ProfessionalBox: but there are no hitnormal samples on either?
19:36 ProfessionalBox: so it shouldn't matter ?
19:36 ProfessionalBox: or am I drunk
19:36 Doormat: hang on
19:37 Doormat: right now 04:09:487 - is following S:C2
19:37 Doormat: same with 04:10:687 -
19:37 Doormat: every other case after these two has that slider end following S:C1
19:38 Doormat: you don't have a soft-hitnormal2 so it's defaulting to the soft-hitnormal in my custom skin and it makes this really weird sound that seems unintentional
19:38 ProfessionalBox: DDDDDD
19:39 ProfessionalBox: I can add the samplesets there
19:39 ProfessionalBox: is it only those 2
19:39 Doormat: i guess that's the easiest solution LOL
19:39 Doormat: yeah it's only these two which is why i thought it was really weird
19:39 ProfessionalBox: I'll do that
19:39 Doormat: since every other slider end after it follows sampleset 1
19:39 ProfessionalBox: no point in talking about this more
19:39 Doormat: k
19:39 ProfessionalBox: since its such a simple thing lmao
19:40 ProfessionalBox: fixed now
19:40 ProfessionalBox: xd
19:40 Doormat: also this point was ignored 01:39:712 (1) - are the whistles on slider body and slider end intentional?
19:40 Doormat: in the mod
19:40 Doormat: whistle on sliderbody comes off as unintentional
19:40 ProfessionalBox: fixed it
19:40 Doormat: k
19:40 ProfessionalBox: Sing probably missed it
19:40 Doormat: yeah just one thing for sing then lol
19:40 ProfessionalBox: if its a hitsounding thing I can fix taht too'
19:41 Doormat: it's not
19:41 Doormat: it's a rhythm thing
19:41 ProfessionalBox: alrightt

Sing wrote:

03:07:312 (1) - this 3/4 reverse slider feels really off with the rest of the section; why suddenly switch to vocals here when you were mapping to synths before and after this? i think it's more appropriate to map to the white/red ticks of the synth for this section ive been prioritizing mapping the vocals over the synth, as seen in 03:02:512 (1,2) - ,and 03:04:312 (2,2,2) - , it just so happens that 03:07:312 (1) - is the only place here where the vocals dont land on the red tick, so i emphasized it through this long slider, whilst ignoring the synth for this short time. I could do 1/2 sliders instead to hit both but i think it would add too much intensity to a part that should be downtime from the kiai anyways i don't really agree with your logic here; it sounds more like the vocals land on 03:07:462 - rather than the blue tick. musically 03:07:312 - is the same as 03:02:512 - so the rhythm choices you use should be similar to reflect that

Kibbleru wrote:

no fear, for kibbleru is here!

00:27:562 (3) - wouldnt it look nicer around the middle?

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ehh not rly imo, i dont like how it overlaps 00:26:512 (2) - sliderhead, plus i like the increased spacing it currently is helps transition into 00:27:712 (4) - which is at an even bigger spacing
02:01:912 (1) - can u move this up a bit, i dont think its actually off screen but its dangerously close so just in case sure

Kibbleru wrote:

no fear, for kibbleru is here! heLLo tHEre

00:43:612 (1,2,3) - the spacing inconsistency here intentional? no it was just freehanded, fixed
02:23:212 (2) - ^ moved up
05:50:962 - im not too sure what the head is following here the instrument is on 05:51:112 - ? really faint melody, made it into a short slider and moved the initial one a bit

call me back

Yauxo wrote:

It feels odd to me that noone has at least mentioned them, but the slowdown Sliders in the end of the first Kiai seem out-of-place to me
(02:35:212 (1) - 02:40:012 (1) - )

I assume you were going for A B A B, where A is fast and B is slowed down, but each B2 has a strong beat in the middle of it so you just didnt slow it down - effectively making it A B A A?
For consistency and probably less confusion while playing, I feel like a simple A A A A wouldve worked better here (or B A B A, really). You could argue that this doesnt matter in a 7* Wubmap, but there's just nothing that indicates such a change (neither design (same Slider length) nor music) and it buggs me :v

Monstrata wrote:

Hi, I found a serious issue that needs to be fixed. Title should be "Feeling Sky"

Source:

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363112,315.789473684211,4,2,1,20,1,0
363743,352.941176470588,4,2,1,20,1,0
364448,394.736842105263,4,2,1,20,1,0
364842,441.176470588235,4,2,1,20,1,0
365283,468.75,4,2,1,20,1,0
365751,560.747663551402,4,2,1,20,1,0
366311,470.588235294118,4,2,1,20,1,0
367252,444.444444444444,4,2,1,20,1,0
367474,571.428571428571,4,2,1,20,1,0
369074,478.08764940239,4,2,1,20,1,0

ProfessionalBox wrote:

imo the ending is accurate enough as it is and I also brought this up when bubbling the map and was told that there is no problem

Raiden wrote:

funnily enough around 50-60% of the notes after I applied my timing were not more than 1-2 ms off (some were even on point) however the 40-50% rest needed more than 5-10 ms shifts so... in my opinion timing the slowdown is way more accurate than the odd snaps that are currently in place. Let's wait and see what others think about it.

Doormat wrote:

to elaborate, the current snaps are well timed to the music so i thought that there wasn't an issue with the current setup.

ProfessionalBox wrote:

Also even though objects are 5-10ms off you can't really tell by ear anyways without slowing down to 25% speed which I think is a good proof that there is no need to do the changes as a player is more likely to play the objects with my current placements anyways supported by the consistency in rhythm argument pointed out earlier.