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Vanillas

344 posts

Joined October 2014

Vanillas July 7, 2017 at 7:39:09 AM UTC

General

I don't know why using so many timing Points. I tried to delete all except bpm166 offset 130 and find it ok. Besides, the ranked version also didn't use so many timing points according to https://osu.ppy.sh/s/121120.

Crimmi's Normal

00:30:314 (3) - for this part you're following drums but suddently turn to vocal at this point. remove the circle maybe better imo.
00:46:381 (1,2) - missing note at 00:46:765. try this rhythm: https://puu.sh/wDDY9/2e11e650c0.png
00:52:190 (1) - I'm not sure what the repeat is following. If you want to follow vocal it should ends at 00:53:076. And if follow drum there shouldn't be a note at 00:52:717.
there is a finish at 01:05:017 (4) - but also at 01:07:905. make them same.

aigoh's Hard

Sample normal maybe a little noisy as there is not so strong sound at ends of sliders such as 00:07:724 (2,5) -
it seems you use same DS in kiai time which make kiai time easier. try to make it harder.
00:47:657 (1,2,3) - you even didn't use so large distance in kiai time. decrease distance between 1 and 2 to give emphasis to jump between 2 and 3.
01:12:051 (1) - use the same rhythm as 01:11:703 (7) - to follow drums.
01:13:890 (1,2,3,4) - overlap the start of sliders to make it easier. seperate them is too hard as for this diff.

Insane

00:21:640 (4,1) - did not feel flow when test play. move 1 to right side of 4 to make a better flow.
01:23:624 normal and hard diff mapped this part with notes, so map this part is better than just a spinner imo.
00:52:190 (1) - the slider should finish at 00:52:364.
00:48:549 (1,2) - move 2 downside 1 for a better flow

GL~

Stack

709 posts

Joined March 2015

Topic Starter

Stack July 7, 2017 at 9:08:23 AM UTC

Hikawa Hina wrote:
General
I don't know why using so many timing Points. I tried to delete all except bpm166 offset 130 and find it ok. Besides, the ranked version also didn't use so many timing points according to https://osu.ppy.sh/s/121120. I am waiting for the timing check I requested to be 100% sure as I don't trust the 2014 timing, cause that one also sounds off
Insane
00:21:640 (4,1) - did not feel flow when test play. move 1 to right side of 4 to make a better flow. ~fixed~
01:23:624 normal and hard diff mapped this part with notes, so map this part is better than just a spinner imo. It's more up to what the mapper wants, and I really did not feel like notes are good here but if more people complain I'll change it
00:52:190 (1) - the slider should finish at 00:52:364. I chose for an extended slider as the vocal stops on the blue tick and this was imo a better representation of it, also there is no sound on the red tick so there is no problem using an extended slider
00:48:549 (1,2) - move 2 downside 1 for a better flow This flowbreak is meant to be here to emphasize the huge diffrence between these notes and the ones from the stream right before this
GL~

Thanks alot for the mod

Dashyy-

677 posts

Joined May 2015

Dashyy- July 7, 2017 at 3:44:50 PM UTC

m4m!!!!!!!

g:

pretty dumb suggestion but it sounds better if u move kiai to 01:18:193 - idk
ur offset also sounds 30 ms too late, might wanna confirm with someone who is better at timing tho lol

crim:

00:21:459 (2,4) - in normal diffs, overlaps are looked down upon since they could mess up a new player's reading abilities. i would suggest making 3 a nc so it can be read appropriately (like u did here 00:25:775 (4,2) - )
00:30:133 (2,3,4) - tbh this kinda derails from the rhythm you had. would suggest using just one circle
00:51:470 (5) - slider should be pointing towards 00:52:190 (1) - 's slider head. the direction it's in now can mess up a new player
00:55:053 (1,2) - sounds better rhythmically if you flipped these to slider-circle
01:02:114 - missing a pretty important sound here. put a circle here like you did previously
01:07:905 - ^

aigoh:

00:25:605 (2) - forgot clap

golden:

00:26:133 - this section's jumps seem too intense compared to the song's intensity. since they are about the same distance as the jumps in the kiai. would suggest lowering them by a bit

no huge complaints about the higher diffs tbh

Stack

709 posts

Joined March 2015

Topic Starter

Stack July 7, 2017 at 4:38:36 PM UTC

Dashyy- wrote:
m4m!!!!!!!

g:

pretty dumb suggestion but it sounds better if u move kiai to 01:18:193 - idk The song gets really quiet and slow comared to the chorus so I think I chose a decent cutoff point
ur offset also sounds 30 ms too late, might wanna confirm with someone who is better at timing tho lol There is a timing check on it's way

crim:

00:21:459 (2,4) - in normal diffs, overlaps are looked down upon since they could mess up a new player's reading abilities. i would suggest making 3 a nc so it can be read appropriately (like u did here 00:25:775 (4,2) - ) I would like to keep the nc consistently on every 2 downbeats
00:30:133 (2,3,4) - tbh this kinda derails from the rhythm you had. would suggest using just one circle k, applied
00:51:470 (5) - slider should be pointing towards 00:52:190 (1) - 's slider head. the direction it's in now can mess up a new player I'll think about it
00:55:053 (1,2) - sounds better rhythmically if you flipped these to slider-circle The vocals land on the clickable parts the way it's mapped now and that feels better
01:02:114 - missing a pretty important sound here. put a circle here like you did previously would rather not do that
01:07:905 - ^

golden:

00:26:133 - this section's jumps seem too intense compared to the song's intensity. since they are about the same distance as the jumps in the kiai. would suggest lowering them by a bit nerfed first and third measures' jumps a bit

no huge complaints about the higher diffs tbh

Thanks for the mod

Antlia-

123 posts

Joined July 2013

Antlia- July 7, 2017 at 6:52:09 PM UTC

NM from my queue <3

ahsoka08 wrote:
Crimmi's Normal
check aimod with distance snap on
some of the sliders are noticeably faster than others bc of the weird timing make sure all of the velocities are equal (00:56:314 (4) is faster than 00:57:211 (5))
Aigoh's hard
00:07:182 (1) I don't like the sharp angles in a song like this, it doesn't express it well( this goes for every other sharp slider)
00:46:034 (4) This should be a stream
01:24:076 (1) why does this spinner have so many green lines, they make no difference

Insane
Make all of the jumps in this diff similar, they all look completely different
00:40:606 (1) sharp angles again
01:13:890 (1,2,3,1) make this a stream

Insane
00:48:018 (2,3,4) make this a stream
01:00:131 (4,5,6)^

I really like this mapset :3, GL on pushing it to rank

aigoh

311 posts

Joined February 2014

aigoh July 8, 2017 at 2:13:41 AM UTC

Thanks for mods!

Hikawa Hina wrote:
Sample normal maybe a little noisy as there is not so strong sound at ends of sliders such as 00:07:724 (2,5) - I changed the base volume to 35% instead!
it seems you use same DS in kiai time which make kiai time easier. try to make it harder. I think it is hard enough, as the jumps are more frequent and higher DS. Plus, I don't want to mess with the difficulty spread.
00:47:657 (1,2,3) - you even didn't use so large distance in kiai time. decrease distance between 1 and 2 to give emphasis to jump between 2 and 3.I think the strong claps here is enough reason to add a jump at (2)
01:12:051 (1) - use the same rhythm as 01:11:703 (7) - to follow drums. Leaving like this, since I wanted to simplify the rhythm here. Mainly, the vocal is very strong at 01:12:051 -
01:13:890 (1,2,3,4) - overlap the start of sliders to make it easier. seperate them is too hard as for this diff.Gotcha

Dashyy- wrote:
00:25:605 (2) - forgot clap Oh yeah XD fixed!

ahsoka08 wrote:
00:07:182 (1) I don't like the sharp angles in a song like this, it doesn't express it well( this goes for every other sharp slider)My opinion is different--players don't actually follow the slider path, and it doesn't affect the playability so much. I also used sharp sliders to represent electric guitar.
00:46:034 (4) This should be a stream Didn't do so because of difficulty spread.
01:24:076 (1) why does this spinner have so many green lines, they make no difference Slight difference, actually XD the volume changes

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Yahuri

1,205 posts

Joined July 2014

Yahuri July 8, 2017 at 6:34:38 AM UTC

m4m return from my queue

Crimmi's Normal
-is slidertick rate 2 really necessary? this is the only diff without tickrate 1.
00:08:808 (1,2) - fix blanket
00:18:929 (3,1) - the blanket doesnt look good here because the visual spacing is less than 1.00x DS. the tail of 1 is also closer to 3 than the head of 1 is to 3. personally i would just not use a blanket here
00:25:775 (4,2) - this is the only place with a regular stack, so i would just decrease the stack leniency so that all of the stacks are the same.
00:51:470 (5,1) - flow doesnt look good here, i would curve 5 into 1 more.
01:06:275 (6,1) - fix blanket
01:07:724 (3,4) - ^
01:10:792 (3,2) - overlap doesnt look good
01:16:920 (2,1) - blanket?

aigoh's Hard
-its not quite clear to me when you have jumps and when you dont. for example this 00:52:014 (5,1) - has no jump and this 01:01:941 (4,1) does (both have the same hitsounding)
00:32:643 (3,5) - stack makes this pattern look messy imo
00:42:782 (3,1) - blanket?
00:53:615 (1,2,3) - flow looks a bit weird because of the wide angle and the jump from 2-3
01:00:506 (1) - NC not necessary imo
01:00:506 (1,1) - could add in a jump
01:21:094 (1,2) - fix stack

Insane
00:04:290 (1) - this would be better if you mapped it like the rest of the intro. it feels out of place because the same melody repeats here, but you changed it into a spinner instead (its also short so i got caught off guard).
00:06:820 (4,1) - fix blanket
00:15:314 (3,1) - ^
00:19:652 (3,4) - doesnt need a jump imo
00:20:013 (4,5) - DS here feels out of place with what youve been doing until now like here 00:18:206 (3,4) and here 00:15:314 (3,4)
00:24:531 - this would be better as a click imo because of the held out vocals (so turn this 00:24:170 (4) into 1/2 slider + circle)
00:25:254 (2,3,1,2,3) - shape looks messy, try using a star or hexagon
00:31:206 (3,4) - i dont think this needs a large jump because it sounds like the guitar sound that starts on 3 is cutting off at 4
00:53:436 (1,3) - not too fond of the overlap with the head of 3, but its acceptable i guess
00:55:413 (2,4) - this is the first time theres a stack that looks like this (back and forth) so it looks out of place. this particular section of music doesnt really seem all that special either.
01:07:362 (3,5) - ^
01:04:118 (2,3) - fix blanket
01:12:976 (2,3) - ^
01:15:857 (3,1) - ^
01:09:162 (6,7,1) - DS of 6-7 should be smaller than 7-1 because 1 has more stress on the vocals, as well as a cymbal crash
01:09:872 (2,1) - 01:10:405 (2,1) - these could use a little more spacing too
01:22:540 (1) - spinner start feels weird because nothing significant happens. how about starting it here 01:22:359?

Golden Fairy
00:04:290 (1) - same thing as Insane
00:08:808 (1,2) - sounds pretty much the same as 00:05:917 (1,2) - so i think you should follow the same rhythm. also mapping the 3/4 slider misses a small thing here 00:08:989
00:09:893 (4,1) - 00:10:615 (3,4) - really large DS changes, i think they should be more similar.
00:11:338 (6,1) - 00:12:061 (2,1) - ^
00:11:158 (5,6) - reduce the jump, 6 isnt that strong
00:19:652 (3,4,5) - same as Insane
00:24:531 - same as Insane
00:30:314 (4,1) - DS looks kinda small compared to what youve been using in this section, like here 00:28:860 (6,1)
00:33:187 (4,1) - ^
01:05:017 - finishes sound excessive in this section. i would at least get rid of this one 01:05:375 (1) because theres nothing in the background to support it
01:11:537 (3,4,5) - really pushing the limits of slider leniency imo, you can reduce spacing here
01:16:378 (1,2,3,4) - isnt a straight line (i removed 01:16:920 (2) and tested it) it would look better if it was a straight line
01:22:540 (1) - same as Insane

Good luck!

Stack

709 posts

Joined March 2015

Topic Starter

Stack July 8, 2017 at 11:34:20 AM UTC

ahsoka08 wrote:
NM from my queue <3

ahsoka08 wrote:
Insane
Make all of the jumps in this diff similar, they all look completely different don't want them to be too similar
00:40:606 (1) sharp angles again nah, want some variation
01:13:890 (1,2,3,1) make this a stream long streams of 1/3 rhythm are really annoying to play

Insane
00:48:018 (2,3,4) make this a stream 1/4 sliders also show the 1/4 rhythm well
01:00:131 (4,5,6)^ ^
I really like this mapset :3, GL on pushing it to rank

Thanks for taking a look

Yahuri wrote:
m4m return from my queue
Insane
00:04:290 (1) - this would be better if you mapped it like the rest of the intro. it feels out of place because the same melody repeats here, but you changed it into a spinner instead (its also short so i got caught off guard). fixed after multiple times thhis got pointed out
00:06:820 (4,1) - fix blanket
00:15:314 (3,1) - ^
00:19:652 (3,4) - doesnt need a jump imo want a jump to show the change into following the piano instead of the vocals
00:20:013 (4,5) - DS here feels out of place with what youve been doing until now like here 00:18:206 (3,4) and here 00:15:314 (3,4) still following the piano which increases in intensity
00:24:531 - this would be better as a click imo because of the held out vocals (so turn this 00:24:170 (4) into 1/2 slider + circle) applied
00:25:254 (2,3,1,2,3) - shape looks messy, try using a star or hexagon want 00:25:605 (1,2,3) - to stand out more so I increased spacing on 2 more, should be better now
00:31:206 (3,4) - i dont think this needs a large jump because it sounds like the guitar sound that starts on 3 is cutting off at 4 yup, I'll look for something different, can't see anyhting good immediatly
00:53:436 (1,3) - not too fond of the overlap with the head of 3, but its acceptable i guess If only I had like .1 more sv then it would have been nicer
00:55:413 (2,4) - this is the first time theres a stack that looks like this (back and forth) so it looks out of place. this particular section of music doesnt really seem all that special either. did something different
01:07:362 (3,5) - ^ 01:07:905 (5) - This one was really loud so I wanted somthgn different but if more people tell me the same I'll change it
01:04:118 (2,3) - fix blanket
01:12:976 (2,3) - ^ was not supposed to be a blanket but ok fixed
01:15:857 (3,1) - ^
01:09:162 (6,7,1) - DS of 6-7 should be smaller than 7-1 because 1 has more stress on the vocals, as well as a cymbal crash increased spacing to 01:09:517 (1) -
01:09:872 (2,1) - 01:10:405 (2,1) - these could use a little more spacing too
01:22:540 (1) - spinner start feels weird because nothing significant happens. how about starting it here 01:22:359?

Golden Fairy
00:04:290 (1) - same thing as Insane yup
00:08:808 (1,2) - sounds pretty much the same as 00:05:917 (1,2) - so i think you should follow the same rhythm. also mapping the 3/4 slider misses a small thing here 00:08:989 rather let them both ahve the 3/4 pattern then
00:09:893 (4,1) - 00:10:615 (3,4) - really large DS changes, i think they should be more similar.
00:11:338 (6,1) - 00:12:061 (2,1) - ^
00:11:158 (5,6) - reduce the jump, 6 isnt that strong
00:19:652 (3,4,5) - same as Insane also same thing as the insane
00:24:531 - same as Insane It's ok here as I follow up by emphasizing instruments with circles, so the vocals don't really need a clickable object here
00:30:314 (4,1) - DS looks kinda small compared to what youve been using in this section, like here 00:28:860 (6,1) upped spacing
00:33:187 (4,1) - ^ ^
01:05:017 - finishes sound excessive in this section. i would at least get rid of this one 01:05:375 (1) because theres nothing in the background to support it
01:11:537 (3,4,5) - really pushing the limits of slider leniency imo, you can reduce spacing here same spacing as previous 1/4 sliders so it should be fine
01:16:378 (1,2,3,4) - isnt a straight line (i removed 01:16:920 (2) and tested it) it would look better if it was a straight line ok, I guess, never meant to put it in a straight line but it should look better now
01:22:540 (1) - same as Insane

Good luck!

no reply means fixed
~~Will finish later~~

Thanks alot for the mod, this is what I was looking for

Lokidoki

323 posts

Joined June 2015

Lokidoki July 8, 2017 at 8:07:03 PM UTC

queue modding

[Crimmi's Normal]
00:12:603 (2,3) - make that a bit more linear by moving the slider to x:296 y:276 and fix the blanket with 00:13:868 (4) -
00:50:379 (3,4) - this rhythm and object placing seems unfitting for the map as a whole
01:23:444 (4) - unneeded slider
start the spinner at 01:23:805 (1) -

[aigoh's Hard]
01:03:755 (1,2,3) - why is the first slider curved and others are not, the flow here should be more curved, rather than strict and linear
01:22:359 (1) - tbh, kinda ugly

[Insane]
00:04:290 (1) - 1/2 recovery after that spinner may not be enough if you're posing this as a LI. also, it is a bit too short imo, so i suggest you remove it.
00:25:775 (2) - why is that one so far away?
00:29:587 (2,3) - this is not a good flow, make (3) curved a bit
00:49:096 (3) - i'd rather not follow the vocals.
01:12:976 (2) - from curved to linear to curved, that slider is flowing very strangely.
01:22:540 - that spinner is unneded here, make a circle there if you want, but all it does is just ruin the HP.

[Golden Fairy]
00:04:290 (1) - same as before
00:49:096 (3) - ^
00:51:103 (2,3,4,5) - tbh this is too edgy and too awkward of a flow, make it softer.
01:05:017 (1,2,1,2,1) - why NCs?
01:05:910 (2,3,4,1) - again more strange flows, make them slower as well, make (2) a curved slider so it would play nicer.
01:22:540 (1) - same as stated before in the mod.

aigoh

311 posts

Joined February 2014

aigoh July 9, 2017 at 5:41:26 AM UTC

Thanks for mods!

Yahuri wrote:
aigoh's Hard
-its not quite clear to me when you have jumps and when you dont. for example this 00:52:014 (5,1) - has no jump and this 01:01:941 (4,1) does (both have the same hitsounding) Yeah, I agree--I was confused because the drum finishes there are not logical. I'll try to fix these parts
00:32:643 (3,5) - stack makes this pattern look messy imo fixed
00:42:782 (3,1) - blanket? keeping
00:53:615 (1,2,3) - flow looks a bit weird because of the wide angle and the jump from 2-3
01:00:506 (1) - NC not necessary imo fixed
01:00:506 (1,1) - could add in a jump fixed
01:21:094 (1,2) - fix stack fixed

Lokidoki wrote:
01:03:755 (1,2,3) - why is the first slider curved and others are not, the flow here should be more curved, rather than strict and linear I am following the drum here, where it is hitting on something real solid.
01:22:359 (1) - tbh, kinda ugly Changed XD

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Stack July 9, 2017 at 1:55:48 PM UTC

Lokidoki wrote:
queue modding
[Insane]
00:04:290 (1) - 1/2 recovery after that spinner may not be enough if you're posing this as a LI. also, it is a bit too short imo, so i suggest you remove it. removed after previuous mod
00:25:775 (2) - why is that one so far away? The sound gets a ton louder
00:29:587 (2,3) - this is not a good flow, make (3) curved a bit okay I guess
00:49:096 (3) - i'd rather not follow the vocals.not mapping this jsut felt weird
01:12:976 (2) - from curved to linear to curved, that slider is flowing very strangely.They are all curved in some way so it should be fine
01:22:540 - that spinner is unneded here, make a circle there if you want, but all it does is just ruin the HP. I'll see what I can do about this, but the ending time needs to be consistent wiith the gd's
[Golden Fairy]
00:04:290 (1) - same as before ^
00:49:096 (3) - ^ ^
00:51:103 (2,3,4,5) - tbh this is too edgy and too awkward of a flow, make it softer.meh, flow looks good
01:05:017 (1,2,1,2,1) - why NCs? oops, this was from when I was copypasting the pattern
01:05:910 (2,3,4,1) - again more strange flows, make them slower as well, make (2) a curved slider so it would play nicer.flow changes beacause I follow vocals for a while
01:22:540 (1) - same as stated before in the mod.^

Thanks for the mod

Xiaolin

1,862 posts

Joined April 2013

Xiaolin July 10, 2017 at 1:26:39 PM UTC

M4M

[Crimmi's Normal]

Why 2 ticks?
00:25:775 (4,2) - These two could be stacked properly.
01:04:839 (3,4,5) - Move (5) a bit to the right to make a linear flow with (3) and (4).
01:17:838 (3) - Almost touching the HP bar. It may not touch the HP bar, but would be better to move it a bit down since it could confuse players.

[aigoh's Hard]

00:12:242 (2,3,4) - Personally, stacking (3) and (4) would visualy look better.
00:20:374 (1) - This not spaced out yet 00:23:266 (1) - has the same finish sound, and both of them start with strong vocals, but the first timing swap I mentioned isn't spaced out unlike this.

[Insane]

00:20:013 (4,5) - I don't really see why these two are spaced out. Looking at this section, notes with this sound all have the same distance, there really isn't any jump or anything, but these two are, which is questionable to me. Consider using DS on these two since there really isn't any special sound or strong vocals, so there's no reason to space them out.
00:28:133 (2,3,4,5,6) - I also pretty much don't see a reason for adding a jump here. This part, there isn't really any strong sounds or vocals, they don't sound too low either, I think you should reduce the jump here because like I said, there isn't any strong vocals or sound. Same goes for 00:31:029 (2,3,4,5,6) - 00:33:913 (2,3,4,5,6) -

[Golden Fairy]

00:24:350 - In insane this sound is emphasised with a slider end, but here it's different.. suggest making this a slider end so you can add a hitsound here.

Good luck!

aigoh

311 posts

Joined February 2014

aigoh July 11, 2017 at 12:56:45 AM UTC

Thank you for mod!

Xiaolin wrote:
00:12:242 (2,3,4) - Personally, stacking (3) and (4) would visualy look better. I don't think so...I also don't think that would be appropriate for a hard or be consistent with the rest of the map '-'
00:20:374 (1) - This not spaced out yet 00:23:266 (1) - has the same finish sound, and both of them start with strong vocals, but the first timing swap I mentioned isn't spaced out unlike this. DS-wise, it is a 1.65x jump vs. the normal 1.4x. But I changed something

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timemon

1,247 posts

Joined November 2012

timemon July 11, 2017 at 4:43:41 PM UTC

NM, Sorry I'm late.

[aigoh's Hard]
00:21:820 (1,2) - why suddenly switch focus from vocal to instrument? should be one long slider like you did previously.
00:58:484 (3) - the red anchor is positioned at almost at the end of the slider move in back toward the middle a bit.
01:05:910 (4) - bad angle I suggest this: http://i.imgur.com/L62fymD.png
01:07:001 (2) - should be 2 clickable objects the vocal is active on both the head and tail.
01:22:359 (1) - I think wave slider looks better when they're either 180/90 degree. This one is not vertical and is a bit tilted so it looks weird.

[Insane]
00:20:374 (1) - slider is a bit too close to other slider
00:24:712 (1) - bad angle imo, either reduce the angle to 5-10 degree or make it a curve slider.
00:53:436 (1) - should follow the vocal and make it all circles, turn it into a jump.
00:57:930 (1) - angle is a bit extreme here, reduce it a bit it's like 45 degree.
01:02:662 (3) - change to circle and then a 1/2 slider at 01:02:843 -

Good luck!

Stack

709 posts

Joined March 2015

Topic Starter

Stack July 13, 2017 at 8:02:07 PM UTC

Xiaolin wrote:
M4M
[Insane]

00:20:013 (4,5) - I don't really see why these two are spaced out. Looking at this section, notes with this sound all have the same distance, there really isn't any jump or anything, but these two are, which is questionable to me. Consider using DS on these two since there really isn't any special sound or strong vocals, so there's no reason to space them out. It's too show that the piano adds something extra to the song which I wanted to show by increasing spacing by a little bit
00:28:133 (2,3,4,5,6) - I also pretty much don't see a reason for adding a jump here. This part, there isn't really any strong sounds or vocals, they don't sound too low either, I think you should reduce the jump here because like I said, there isn't any strong vocals or sound. Same goes for 00:31:029 (2,3,4,5,6) - 00:33:913 (2,3,4,5,6) - There is that sound that gets louder each time right before the measure ends that is imo louder than the vocals, so I made some jumps to show the loud sound and the snares are in a 1/2 rhythm

[Golden Fairy]

00:24:350 - In insane this sound is emphasised with a slider end, but here it's different.. suggest making this a slider end so you can add a hitsound here. made it into a reverse and added whistle

Good luck!

timemon wrote:
NM, Sorry I'm late.
[Insane]
00:20:374 (1) - slider is a bit too close to other slider It follows the 1,5x ds I have been following the entire time and doesn't overlap so that should be fine
00:24:712 (1) - bad angle imo, either reduce the angle to 5-10 degree or make it a curve slider. Would want to do this but would cause overlpa with 00:24:712 (1,3) -
00:53:436 (1) - should follow the vocal and make it all circles, turn it into a jump. The density of the instrumental sounds lowers like a ton here so I chose to focus on those as I mostly fllow instrumentals in the chorus
00:57:930 (1) - angle is a bit extreme here, reduce it a bit it's like 45 degree. reduced by 10 degrees
01:02:662 (3) - change to circle and then a 1/2 slider at 01:02:843 - yup

Good luck!

Thanks for the mods
@aigoh, when you start applying the next mod start with the updated version of your diff as I took hytex out of the tags cause his GD isn't it the set anymore

aigoh

311 posts

Joined February 2014

aigoh July 15, 2017 at 6:26:30 AM UTC

timemon wrote:
00:21:820 (1,2) - why suddenly switch focus from vocal to instrument? should be one long slider like you did previously.Ahh why'd I do that XD changed!
00:58:484 (3) - the red anchor is positioned at almost at the end of the slider move in back toward the middle a bit.I think it looks fine
01:05:910 (4) - bad angle I suggest this: http://i.imgur.com/L62fymD.png I just remapped this part--your suggestion doesn't use spacing emphasis on the right places
01:07:001 (2) - should be 2 clickable objects the vocal is active on both the head and tail.I'm following the drum here, so it should be fine
01:22:359 (1) - I think wave slider looks better when they're either 180/90 degree. This one is not vertical and is a bit tilted so it looks weird.I think it looks fine

Thanks for the mod, timemon!

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Chalwa

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Chalwa July 15, 2017 at 6:00:56 PM UTC

Hello from queue!

[General]

Nothing i think c:

[Normal]

Please set slider tick to 1, because sliders like 00:52:190 (1) have kinda broken slider ticks (at the end).
00:13:868 (4) - It's not about blanket improving, but look at this you have two strong sounds, so if you blanket it with 00:12:784 (3) you make optical smaller DS like it's over blanket. You can experiment with it, but I prefer it unblanketed.
00:41:879 (3) - Here strong drum and vocal's end is on red tick, no on white like you made. It's improving rhythm a lot imo.
00:48:719 - You should put here a note since is really strong drum here and it's really nice building atmosphere before kiai .
01:10:405 (2,3) - You can improve this blanket, cause, as you can see, a start of slider is nearer to circle than end of this object.
01:18:193 (1,2) - You should move the second slider a bit to up cause a overlaping start of one slider with end of second slider is kinda unaesthetic. Also on 01:18:193 (1,2,3,1) you have inconsistent DS, so you should to fix them.

[Hard]

00:17:483 (1,3) - This overlap is fine, when endcirlce of second slider isn't on slider track. Here it's a half of end overlapped, so looks kinda weird for me. I know it's hard to change, but be creative!
00:20:374 (1,3) - Same as above (if you want to keep more this patterns, make more in next patterns, then they are readable and don't look that weird).
01:00:131 (8) - END OF THIS SLIDER IS UNSNAPPED!
01:05:553 (2,3) - This jump feels kinda weird, when there isn't that strong sound. More reasonable thing is jump between 01:05:731 (3,4) two objects in my opinion.
01:12:051 (8) - Why you didn't make double repeated 1/4 slider like on 01:11:703 (7) when sounds are really similliar tbh.

[Insane]

00:27:587 (1) - Better for aesthetics is little left curve, but it's only my little opinion.
Nice diff C:

Good Luck~!

Last edited by Chalwa July 16, 2017 at 6:33:08 PM UTC, edited 1 times in total.

Milar001

541 posts

Joined May 2016

Milar001 July 16, 2017 at 1:17:15 PM UTC

Hi from queue

00:27:587 (3) - I think that replacing this slider with two shorter sliders, first from slider's beginning to 00:27:951, second from 00:28:133 to slider's end would better follow the music
00:34:821 (1) - Also if you shorten this slider half of a beat and add a circle on it's currentl end it should be better
00:47:657 (3) - In my opinion this hitsound is too loud
00:52:190 (1) - Another time shorten this slider half of a beat, add one more repetition and ctrl+g
01:04:839 (3,4,5) - There something wrong with timing here because the song is slower than the map, I think deleting 4 will help

Generally I think that cs 4 is little to big as you have the same cs in 2 harder diffs
00:01:399 (3,3) - Maybe nc here instead of 00:01:579 (1,1)?
00:07:724 (2) - I feel like the hitsound here is too strong
01:05:017 (5) - Nc here instead of 01:05:197 (1)
01:16:739 - Why there no object here, it will be more natural

Good diff
00:01:399 (4,4,4) - The same comment as in hard diff
00:04:290 (4) - Why so quiet?
00:12:694 (3) - It would be better without this imo, but it is also fine how it is

00:15:856 (4) - Nc here would be better (Comment for whole section, not single object)
00:17:302 (4,1) - This is only situation here when spacing changes, so it can be little unpredictable
00:20:194 (5) - Nc here
00:49:096 (3) - Nc here

I do not have anything to say about highest diff, Gj

yShadowXOP_

455 posts

Joined January 2016

yShadowXOP_ July 16, 2017 at 5:57:58 PM UTC

Loli's Mod Queue

yShadowXOP_ wrote:
Golden Fairy:

00:24:893 - you ignored the sound here.
00:53:436 (1) - i think it's better to put a 1/2 slider in addition to the vocal, it also fits with the music
00:53:076 (4) - circulo here would better
00:58:946 - triple because of drum beating
01:08:630 (4) - NC

Insane:
00:15:314 (3,1) - maybe a blanket here? like here 00:21:820 (1,3) -
00:56:134 (5) - maybe stack at the end of the slider? 00:55:413 (2) -
01:05:910 (5) - slider 1/2 fits best

aigoh's Hard:
00:47:657 (1) -
00:48:189 - maybe a triple?
01:10:792 (5) - NC

Music and map in my opinion are great

Good Luck~

Stack

709 posts

Joined March 2015

Topic Starter

Stack July 16, 2017 at 6:12:14 PM UTC

yShadowXOP_ wrote:
Loli's Mod Queue

yShadowXOP_ wrote:
Golden Fairy:

00:24:893 - you ignored the sound here.I made it like this for alot more emphasis on the growing sound as now you go from standing in 1 spot to jumps really quickly
00:53:436 (1) - i think it's better to put a 1/2 slider in addition to the vocal, it also fits with the music I want to emphasize the instruments more here but if it gets brought up again I'll maybe change it
00:53:076 (4) - circulo here would better I'm guessing you mean to add circular flow here which I don't want to as this map tries to avoid that
00:58:946 - triple because of drum beating I only hear 2 beats and those are the ones I mapped at 00:58:854 (5,6) -
01:08:630 (4) - NC sound is not very special so I don't see any reason to deviate from the normal once every downbeat

Insane:
00:15:314 (3,1) - maybe a blanket here? like here 00:21:820 (1,3) - I blanketed the tail this time, but noticed it was off so fixed that
00:56:134 (5) - maybe stack at the end of the slider? 00:55:413 (2) - made it more similar to 00:55:953 (4,1) - 's stack instead
01:05:910 (5) - slider 1/2 fits best I wanted some variation instead of the samey 1/2 spam I had the entire time sand this seemed like the best spot
Music and map in my opinion are great Thanks!

Good Luck~

Milar001 wrote:
Hi from queue
Good diff thanks
00:01:399 (4,4,4) - The same comment as in hard diff Understandable but the piano on the downbeat is more impactful than the others imo
00:04:290 (4) - Why so quiet? fixed hs
00:12:694 (3) - It would be better without this imo, but it is also fine how it is It's already a simplification of the rhythm on the top diff and the osund is quite loud
00:15:856 (4) - Nc here would be better (Comment for whole section, not single object) Alot of the important sounds on which I base my spacing in this part are on the downbeat so I really want to NC those
00:17:302 (4,1) - This is only situation here when spacing changes, so it can be little unpredictable it also changes at 00:20:194 (5,1) - /00:21:640 (4,1) - so it should be fine but I'll mkeep an eye on it
00:20:194 (5) - Nc here The 00:20:374 (1) - is way heavier also what I said before about nc's in this section
00:49:096 (3) - Nc here It's the same as the top diff so it should be fine but if people mention it alot then I'll change it

I do not have anything to say about highest diff, Gj

Chalwa wrote:
Hello from queue!
[General]
Nothing i think c: yeey
[Insane]
00:27:587 (1) - Better for aesthetics is little left curve, but it's only my little opinion. sure
Nice diff C: thanks

Good Luck~!

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