yoshiki*lisa - Destin Histoire -TV size- · forum

Ayato k

Joined January 2017

Ayato k 2017-07-01T14:40:02+00:00

Hi !
This mod will be a bit different than usual ..
Since you said i should focus more on Hard diff, i openend it .. and than .. gosh xD
I saw more than 90 timing points , for a 1,30Min long map wich means more than a timing point per second.
So i spent , hours, litteraly hours, trying to time it as best as i could.
And this is the closest i could get :

I want to know if you will do something about it before i go into objects placement modding.
This was a real nightmare to time ><

Stack

osu! Alumni

723 posts

Joined March 2015

Topic Starter

Stack 2017-07-01T14:59:03+00:00

Ayato_k wrote:
Hi !
This mod will be a bit different than usual ..
Since you said i should focus more on Hard diff, i openend it .. and than .. gosh xD
I saw more than 90 timing points , for a 1,30Min long map wich means more than a timing point per second.
So i spent , hours, litteraly hours, trying to time it as best as i could.
And this is the closest i could get :

I want to know if you will do something about it before i go into objects placement modding.
This was a real nightmare to time ><

All those timing points are actually needed if I want to accuratly represent the song
The drum isn't on the exact correct ms and as my entire kiai is based around the drummer and not the vocals all those timing points are actually needed.
The basic problem is the drummer doesn't drum on the metronome's rhythm which causes irregularity's all over the place
This song is like supercell songs, those are also horrible to play/time as they don't make sure afterwards that the drums are exactly right
example: https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1081936

Thanks for timing the song but I need a chcek on the current timing as I am pretty sure that that one is more exact than this one,
If you want to check object placement then you can do that if you want to beacause timing changes from now will be minor

CrystilonZ

1,459 posts

Joined January 2013

CrystilonZ 2017-07-01T15:37:36+00:00

hihi i'm bored

so I can see that you probably haven't had a multibpm set before so here are the things you should keep in mind
Stuff that is against the rc are labeled in red

make sure that the green line and the red line that are on the same spot have the same volume and sampleset. Something like this is a big nono
so I can see you moved some red lines, if you do mind the snapping cuz nasty things like this can happen which is probably accidental.
^ to fix that you need to tweak the bpm and offsets and stuff or add more lines so that the timings link perfectly like this
and also keep in mind that timing in the verses is slightly off but imo that's kinda negligible. If you are feeling pumped you can try timing those ofc XD
about the slider reverses in hard imo it's correctly snapped cuz the electronic sound is correctly snapped but you mapped to the drums in the highest diff so i timed it that way. However, there is this one rule in the RC (read the few last lines) and I'm not a pro so uhh ask some ppl of whom names are in red or someone that's golden.

Volumes in the kiais are a mess lmao.

Stack

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723 posts

Joined March 2015

Topic Starter

Stack 2017-07-02T10:35:14+00:00

CrystilonZ wrote:
hihi i'm bored

so I can see that you probably haven't had a multibpm set before so here are the things you should keep in mind
Stuff that is against the rc are labeled in red

make sure that the green line and the red line that are on the same spot have the same volume and sampleset. Something like this is a big nono yeah, know this but should have checked better
so I can see you moved some red lines, if you do mind the snapping cuz nasty things like this can happen which is probably accidental. Where did you find that, I can't find it anywhere
^ to fix that you need to tweak the bpm and offsets and stuff or add more lines so that the timings link perfectly like this fixed a couple for now, will see when i find more
and also keep in mind that timing in the verses is slightly off but imo that's kinda negligible. If you are feeling pumped you can try timing those ofc XD *runs away*
about the slider reverses in hard imo it's correctly snapped cuz the electronic sound is correctly snapped but you mapped to the drums in the highest diff so i timed it that way. However, there is this one rule in the RC (read the few last lines) and I'm not a pro so uhh ask some ppl of whom names are in red or someone that's golden.I'll ask someone else

Volumes in the kiais are a mess lmao. I put some basic hs volumes in for now

Thanks again

Firebool

579 posts

Joined March 2015

Firebool 2017-07-03T11:09:27+00:00

Hello from modding room, thanks for your mod btw... again
General
"ll those timing points are actually needed if I want to accuratly represent the song" - but most of them are incorrect, try to time it good, cauze ~30 tp is not a bisnes. Upper mod with timing was pretty good. Or mb there are troubles mith mp3 file, cauze mostly tv-sizes have 1 or 2 timing sections

00:25:775 (4,2) - bad overlap
00:48:719 - lost strong beat here
mostly its a nice diff but I do not agree with the idea that you need to allocate strong beats to the beginning of the slider

00:26:678 (2,3,4,5,1) - nice form but not a good flow
01:17:300 (2) - there is no 1/3. Listen on 50%. First shot here 01:17:300 - , second here 01:17:477 - so there is no 1/3, just 1/4
very nice diff

00:04:290 (1) - It is not necessary to put a spinner here
00:22:362 (2,3) - stack it plz, everewhere u stacked
00:57:930 (1,2,3) - Are not located on a straight line
01:00:127 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - Thats cauze of timing, different speed of the stream. It's not good enough
01:18:015 - lost beat

I can not find the mistakes that strike me in the eyes
godd playable diff

GL with your good set, try to time it good and it will be the BOMB

Stack

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723 posts

Joined March 2015

Topic Starter

Stack 2017-07-03T11:28:00+00:00

DarkFire wrote:
Hello from modding room, thanks for your mod btw... again
General
"ll those timing points are actually needed if I want to accuratly represent the song" - but most of them are incorrect, try to time it good, cauze ~30 tp is not a bisnes. Upper mod with timing was pretty good. Or mb there are troubles mith mp3 file, cauze mostly tv-sizes have 1 or 2 timing sections I've actually been trying to find an expert timer so I can be sure of the timing but it's no that easy to find one, I'll keep searching but for now, I'll keep it like this

00:04:290 (1) - It is not necessary to put a spinner here I'll think about it but it's weird just to ignore the increasing sound
00:22:362 (2,3) - stack it plz, everewhere u stacked isn't it stacked already
00:57:930 (1,2,3) - Are not located on a straight line ~fixed~
01:00:127 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - Thats cauze of timing, different speed of the stream. It's not good enough I'll look for a good timing check
01:18:015 - lost beat I did not map it beacause I get a ton more emphasis on 01:18:193 (1,1,1) - this way
I can not find the mistakes that strike me in the eyes
godd playable diff

GL with your good set, try to time it good and it will be the BOMB

Thanks for the mod

Ward74

90 posts

Joined April 2015

Ward74 2017-07-03T20:30:29+00:00

Normal

00:28:678 (4,1) - Not exactly blanked

Hard

00:04:471 (1,2) - Blanke if you want
00:38:820 (3) - Me i change this because we hear the nc a the end of the slider https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8503148
00:53:615 (1,2) - Blanked ?
00:55:413 (2,3) - ^
01:00:131 (8,1) - Stack ?
01:11:703 (7,1) - ^

Insane

00:13:326 (2) - Better ? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8503182
00:49:096 (3,1) - I think it's the same combo
01:06:457 (6,1) - ^

Good luck for the ranking it's a funny map !

aigoh

311 posts

Joined February 2014

aigoh 2017-07-04T00:16:55+00:00

Einja wrote:
00:27:405 (5,1) - you could space these away from each other for downbeat emphasis, like you did with 00:28:678 (4,1) - and 00:31:739 (6,1) - I am adding jumps every other white big ticks, so change here doesn't seem necessary.

00:34:821 (1) - lol this felt weird to play, flip this by 180 degrees and ctrl g it for better flow aaa Sure!

01:19:471 (2,3,1) - overmapped triple, no 1/4 sound there. if you removed it, it wouldn't be overmap and it would also emphasize lyrics more Kay

01:20:914 (2,3,1) - ^

this diff was really nice, good job! Thanks

DarkFire wrote:
00:26:678 (2,3,4,5,1) - nice form but not a good flow Ctrl+ G'd 00:27:223 (4,5) - for better flow
01:17:300 (2) - there is no 1/3. Listen on 50%. First shot here 01:17:300 - , second here 01:17:477 - so there is no 1/3, just 1/4 I changed the rhythm so that the 1/3 reverse starts at 01:17:477 -
very nice diff ty!

Ward74 wrote:
00:04:471 (1,2) - Blanke if you want It's fine, sorry
00:38:820 (3) - Me i change this because we hear the nc a the end of the slider https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8503148 I'll keep this in mind
00:53:615 (1,2) - Blanked ? I think it's fine
00:55:413 (2,3) - ^
01:00:131 (8,1) - Stack ? Keeping this way to show the change in rhythm!
01:11:703 (7,1) - ^

Thanks for mods!

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Stack 2017-07-04T09:42:13+00:00

-Nitrous wrote:
Hi! From my Modding Queue
fixing for crimmi
[General]
Fix your BPM, its inconsistent across difficulties will be fixed soontm

[Crimmi's Normal]
This difficulty doesn't end the exact time as the other difficulties. ~fixed~
00:08:078 (4,5,6) - Use a 1/2 repeat slider instead to keep it simple. ok, will do this for now
00:21:813 (3) - CTRL + G this for better flow yup
00:26:151 (1) - CTRL + G for better flow too also nice
00:51:452 (5,1) - This would've flowed better if (5) actually pointed to (1) not that big a problem as you want (1) to stand out beacause it's a loud sound
01:05:187 (5) - Would make this a 1/1 repeat instead. yup, works alot better
01:16:934 (2) - The repeat shouldn't be on the blue tick. Make it a 1/1 repeat instead and add a circle where the original slider ended. yup
01:23:982 (1) - End it on 01:29:408 - instead and fixed
Although the beat is on 01:29:404 - the BPM is inconsistent. Take this as a note.

That's all I can give. Thanks for using my queue!

Ward74 wrote:
Normal

00:28:678 (4,1) - Not exactly blanked fixed now

Insane

00:13:326 (2) - Better ? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8503182 sure
00:49:096 (3,1) - I think it's the same combo I want the start of the kiai to really stand out so I nc'ed
01:06:457 (6,1) - ^ There is a pretty obvious downbeat there so I nc'ed

Good luck for the ranking it's a funny map !

Thanks for the mods

also changed combo colors ot the new ones for this bg
@aigoh you might want to do the same, also updated the diff

aigoh

311 posts

Joined February 2014

aigoh 2017-07-05T03:53:17+00:00

gottagof4ast wrote:
@aigoh you might want to do the same, also updated the diff

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Vanillas

344 posts

Joined October 2014

Vanillas 2017-07-07T07:39:09+00:00

General

I don't know why using so many timing Points. I tried to delete all except bpm166 offset 130 and find it ok. Besides, the ranked version also didn't use so many timing points according to https://osu.ppy.sh/s/121120.

Crimmi's Normal

00:30:314 (3) - for this part you're following drums but suddently turn to vocal at this point. remove the circle maybe better imo.
00:46:381 (1,2) - missing note at 00:46:765. try this rhythm: https://puu.sh/wDDY9/2e11e650c0.png
00:52:190 (1) - I'm not sure what the repeat is following. If you want to follow vocal it should ends at 00:53:076. And if follow drum there shouldn't be a note at 00:52:717.
there is a finish at 01:05:017 (4) - but also at 01:07:905. make them same.

aigoh's Hard

Sample normal maybe a little noisy as there is not so strong sound at ends of sliders such as 00:07:724 (2,5) -
it seems you use same DS in kiai time which make kiai time easier. try to make it harder.
00:47:657 (1,2,3) - you even didn't use so large distance in kiai time. decrease distance between 1 and 2 to give emphasis to jump between 2 and 3.
01:12:051 (1) - use the same rhythm as 01:11:703 (7) - to follow drums.
01:13:890 (1,2,3,4) - overlap the start of sliders to make it easier. seperate them is too hard as for this diff.

Insane

00:21:640 (4,1) - did not feel flow when test play. move 1 to right side of 4 to make a better flow.
01:23:624 normal and hard diff mapped this part with notes, so map this part is better than just a spinner imo.
00:52:190 (1) - the slider should finish at 00:52:364.
00:48:549 (1,2) - move 2 downside 1 for a better flow

GL~

Stack

osu! Alumni

723 posts

Joined March 2015

Topic Starter

Stack 2017-07-07T09:08:23+00:00

Hikawa Hina wrote:
General
I don't know why using so many timing Points. I tried to delete all except bpm166 offset 130 and find it ok. Besides, the ranked version also didn't use so many timing points according to https://osu.ppy.sh/s/121120. I am waiting for the timing check I requested to be 100% sure as I don't trust the 2014 timing, cause that one also sounds off
Insane
00:21:640 (4,1) - did not feel flow when test play. move 1 to right side of 4 to make a better flow. ~fixed~
01:23:624 normal and hard diff mapped this part with notes, so map this part is better than just a spinner imo. It's more up to what the mapper wants, and I really did not feel like notes are good here but if more people complain I'll change it
00:52:190 (1) - the slider should finish at 00:52:364. I chose for an extended slider as the vocal stops on the blue tick and this was imo a better representation of it, also there is no sound on the red tick so there is no problem using an extended slider
00:48:549 (1,2) - move 2 downside 1 for a better flow This flowbreak is meant to be here to emphasize the huge diffrence between these notes and the ones from the stream right before this
GL~

Thanks alot for the mod

Dashyy-

691 posts

Joined May 2015

Dashyy- 2017-07-07T15:44:50+00:00

m4m!!!!!!!

g:

pretty dumb suggestion but it sounds better if u move kiai to 01:18:193 - idk
ur offset also sounds 30 ms too late, might wanna confirm with someone who is better at timing tho lol

crim:

00:21:459 (2,4) - in normal diffs, overlaps are looked down upon since they could mess up a new player's reading abilities. i would suggest making 3 a nc so it can be read appropriately (like u did here 00:25:775 (4,2) - )
00:30:133 (2,3,4) - tbh this kinda derails from the rhythm you had. would suggest using just one circle
00:51:470 (5) - slider should be pointing towards 00:52:190 (1) - 's slider head. the direction it's in now can mess up a new player
00:55:053 (1,2) - sounds better rhythmically if you flipped these to slider-circle
01:02:114 - missing a pretty important sound here. put a circle here like you did previously
01:07:905 - ^

aigoh:

00:25:605 (2) - forgot clap

golden:

00:26:133 - this section's jumps seem too intense compared to the song's intensity. since they are about the same distance as the jumps in the kiai. would suggest lowering them by a bit

no huge complaints about the higher diffs tbh

Stack

osu! Alumni

723 posts

Joined March 2015

Topic Starter

Stack 2017-07-07T16:38:36+00:00

Dashyy- wrote:
m4m!!!!!!!

g:

pretty dumb suggestion but it sounds better if u move kiai to 01:18:193 - idk The song gets really quiet and slow comared to the chorus so I think I chose a decent cutoff point
ur offset also sounds 30 ms too late, might wanna confirm with someone who is better at timing tho lol There is a timing check on it's way

crim:

00:21:459 (2,4) - in normal diffs, overlaps are looked down upon since they could mess up a new player's reading abilities. i would suggest making 3 a nc so it can be read appropriately (like u did here 00:25:775 (4,2) - ) I would like to keep the nc consistently on every 2 downbeats
00:30:133 (2,3,4) - tbh this kinda derails from the rhythm you had. would suggest using just one circle k, applied
00:51:470 (5) - slider should be pointing towards 00:52:190 (1) - 's slider head. the direction it's in now can mess up a new player I'll think about it
00:55:053 (1,2) - sounds better rhythmically if you flipped these to slider-circle The vocals land on the clickable parts the way it's mapped now and that feels better
01:02:114 - missing a pretty important sound here. put a circle here like you did previously would rather not do that
01:07:905 - ^

golden:

00:26:133 - this section's jumps seem too intense compared to the song's intensity. since they are about the same distance as the jumps in the kiai. would suggest lowering them by a bit nerfed first and third measures' jumps a bit

no huge complaints about the higher diffs tbh

Thanks for the mod

Antlia-

245 posts

Joined July 2013

Antlia- 2017-07-07T18:52:09+00:00

NM from my queue <3

ahsoka08 wrote:
Crimmi's Normal
check aimod with distance snap on
some of the sliders are noticeably faster than others bc of the weird timing make sure all of the velocities are equal (00:56:314 (4) is faster than 00:57:211 (5))
Aigoh's hard
00:07:182 (1) I don't like the sharp angles in a song like this, it doesn't express it well( this goes for every other sharp slider)
00:46:034 (4) This should be a stream
01:24:076 (1) why does this spinner have so many green lines, they make no difference

Insane
Make all of the jumps in this diff similar, they all look completely different
00:40:606 (1) sharp angles again
01:13:890 (1,2,3,1) make this a stream

Insane
00:48:018 (2,3,4) make this a stream
01:00:131 (4,5,6)^

I really like this mapset :3, GL on pushing it to rank

aigoh

311 posts

Joined February 2014

aigoh 2017-07-08T02:13:41+00:00

Thanks for mods!

Hikawa Hina wrote:
Sample normal maybe a little noisy as there is not so strong sound at ends of sliders such as 00:07:724 (2,5) - I changed the base volume to 35% instead!
it seems you use same DS in kiai time which make kiai time easier. try to make it harder. I think it is hard enough, as the jumps are more frequent and higher DS. Plus, I don't want to mess with the difficulty spread.
00:47:657 (1,2,3) - you even didn't use so large distance in kiai time. decrease distance between 1 and 2 to give emphasis to jump between 2 and 3.I think the strong claps here is enough reason to add a jump at (2)
01:12:051 (1) - use the same rhythm as 01:11:703 (7) - to follow drums. Leaving like this, since I wanted to simplify the rhythm here. Mainly, the vocal is very strong at 01:12:051 -
01:13:890 (1,2,3,4) - overlap the start of sliders to make it easier. seperate them is too hard as for this diff.Gotcha

Dashyy- wrote:
00:25:605 (2) - forgot clap Oh yeah XD fixed!

ahsoka08 wrote:
00:07:182 (1) I don't like the sharp angles in a song like this, it doesn't express it well( this goes for every other sharp slider)My opinion is different--players don't actually follow the slider path, and it doesn't affect the playability so much. I also used sharp sliders to represent electric guitar.
00:46:034 (4) This should be a stream Didn't do so because of difficulty spread.
01:24:076 (1) why does this spinner have so many green lines, they make no difference Slight difference, actually XD the volume changes

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Yahuri

1,329 posts

Joined July 2014

Yahuri 2017-07-08T06:34:38+00:00

m4m return from my queue

Crimmi's Normal
-is slidertick rate 2 really necessary? this is the only diff without tickrate 1.
00:08:808 (1,2) - fix blanket
00:18:929 (3,1) - the blanket doesnt look good here because the visual spacing is less than 1.00x DS. the tail of 1 is also closer to 3 than the head of 1 is to 3. personally i would just not use a blanket here
00:25:775 (4,2) - this is the only place with a regular stack, so i would just decrease the stack leniency so that all of the stacks are the same.
00:51:470 (5,1) - flow doesnt look good here, i would curve 5 into 1 more.
01:06:275 (6,1) - fix blanket
01:07:724 (3,4) - ^
01:10:792 (3,2) - overlap doesnt look good
01:16:920 (2,1) - blanket?

aigoh's Hard
-its not quite clear to me when you have jumps and when you dont. for example this 00:52:014 (5,1) - has no jump and this 01:01:941 (4,1) does (both have the same hitsounding)
00:32:643 (3,5) - stack makes this pattern look messy imo
00:42:782 (3,1) - blanket?
00:53:615 (1,2,3) - flow looks a bit weird because of the wide angle and the jump from 2-3
01:00:506 (1) - NC not necessary imo
01:00:506 (1,1) - could add in a jump
01:21:094 (1,2) - fix stack

Insane
00:04:290 (1) - this would be better if you mapped it like the rest of the intro. it feels out of place because the same melody repeats here, but you changed it into a spinner instead (its also short so i got caught off guard).
00:06:820 (4,1) - fix blanket
00:15:314 (3,1) - ^
00:19:652 (3,4) - doesnt need a jump imo
00:20:013 (4,5) - DS here feels out of place with what youve been doing until now like here 00:18:206 (3,4) and here 00:15:314 (3,4)
00:24:531 - this would be better as a click imo because of the held out vocals (so turn this 00:24:170 (4) into 1/2 slider + circle)
00:25:254 (2,3,1,2,3) - shape looks messy, try using a star or hexagon
00:31:206 (3,4) - i dont think this needs a large jump because it sounds like the guitar sound that starts on 3 is cutting off at 4
00:53:436 (1,3) - not too fond of the overlap with the head of 3, but its acceptable i guess
00:55:413 (2,4) - this is the first time theres a stack that looks like this (back and forth) so it looks out of place. this particular section of music doesnt really seem all that special either.
01:07:362 (3,5) - ^
01:04:118 (2,3) - fix blanket
01:12:976 (2,3) - ^
01:15:857 (3,1) - ^
01:09:162 (6,7,1) - DS of 6-7 should be smaller than 7-1 because 1 has more stress on the vocals, as well as a cymbal crash
01:09:872 (2,1) - 01:10:405 (2,1) - these could use a little more spacing too
01:22:540 (1) - spinner start feels weird because nothing significant happens. how about starting it here 01:22:359?

Golden Fairy
00:04:290 (1) - same thing as Insane
00:08:808 (1,2) - sounds pretty much the same as 00:05:917 (1,2) - so i think you should follow the same rhythm. also mapping the 3/4 slider misses a small thing here 00:08:989
00:09:893 (4,1) - 00:10:615 (3,4) - really large DS changes, i think they should be more similar.
00:11:338 (6,1) - 00:12:061 (2,1) - ^
00:11:158 (5,6) - reduce the jump, 6 isnt that strong
00:19:652 (3,4,5) - same as Insane
00:24:531 - same as Insane
00:30:314 (4,1) - DS looks kinda small compared to what youve been using in this section, like here 00:28:860 (6,1)
00:33:187 (4,1) - ^
01:05:017 - finishes sound excessive in this section. i would at least get rid of this one 01:05:375 (1) because theres nothing in the background to support it
01:11:537 (3,4,5) - really pushing the limits of slider leniency imo, you can reduce spacing here
01:16:378 (1,2,3,4) - isnt a straight line (i removed 01:16:920 (2) and tested it) it would look better if it was a straight line
01:22:540 (1) - same as Insane

Good luck!

Stack

osu! Alumni

723 posts

Joined March 2015

Topic Starter

Stack 2017-07-08T11:34:20+00:00

ahsoka08 wrote:
NM from my queue <3

ahsoka08 wrote:
Insane
Make all of the jumps in this diff similar, they all look completely different don't want them to be too similar
00:40:606 (1) sharp angles again nah, want some variation
01:13:890 (1,2,3,1) make this a stream long streams of 1/3 rhythm are really annoying to play

Insane
00:48:018 (2,3,4) make this a stream 1/4 sliders also show the 1/4 rhythm well
01:00:131 (4,5,6)^ ^
I really like this mapset :3, GL on pushing it to rank

Thanks for taking a look

Yahuri wrote:
m4m return from my queue
Insane
00:04:290 (1) - this would be better if you mapped it like the rest of the intro. it feels out of place because the same melody repeats here, but you changed it into a spinner instead (its also short so i got caught off guard). fixed after multiple times thhis got pointed out
00:06:820 (4,1) - fix blanket
00:15:314 (3,1) - ^
00:19:652 (3,4) - doesnt need a jump imo want a jump to show the change into following the piano instead of the vocals
00:20:013 (4,5) - DS here feels out of place with what youve been doing until now like here 00:18:206 (3,4) and here 00:15:314 (3,4) still following the piano which increases in intensity
00:24:531 - this would be better as a click imo because of the held out vocals (so turn this 00:24:170 (4) into 1/2 slider + circle) applied
00:25:254 (2,3,1,2,3) - shape looks messy, try using a star or hexagon want 00:25:605 (1,2,3) - to stand out more so I increased spacing on 2 more, should be better now
00:31:206 (3,4) - i dont think this needs a large jump because it sounds like the guitar sound that starts on 3 is cutting off at 4 yup, I'll look for something different, can't see anyhting good immediatly
00:53:436 (1,3) - not too fond of the overlap with the head of 3, but its acceptable i guess If only I had like .1 more sv then it would have been nicer
00:55:413 (2,4) - this is the first time theres a stack that looks like this (back and forth) so it looks out of place. this particular section of music doesnt really seem all that special either. did something different
01:07:362 (3,5) - ^ 01:07:905 (5) - This one was really loud so I wanted somthgn different but if more people tell me the same I'll change it
01:04:118 (2,3) - fix blanket
01:12:976 (2,3) - ^ was not supposed to be a blanket but ok fixed
01:15:857 (3,1) - ^
01:09:162 (6,7,1) - DS of 6-7 should be smaller than 7-1 because 1 has more stress on the vocals, as well as a cymbal crash increased spacing to 01:09:517 (1) -
01:09:872 (2,1) - 01:10:405 (2,1) - these could use a little more spacing too
01:22:540 (1) - spinner start feels weird because nothing significant happens. how about starting it here 01:22:359?

Golden Fairy
00:04:290 (1) - same thing as Insane yup
00:08:808 (1,2) - sounds pretty much the same as 00:05:917 (1,2) - so i think you should follow the same rhythm. also mapping the 3/4 slider misses a small thing here 00:08:989 rather let them both ahve the 3/4 pattern then
00:09:893 (4,1) - 00:10:615 (3,4) - really large DS changes, i think they should be more similar.
00:11:338 (6,1) - 00:12:061 (2,1) - ^
00:11:158 (5,6) - reduce the jump, 6 isnt that strong
00:19:652 (3,4,5) - same as Insane also same thing as the insane
00:24:531 - same as Insane It's ok here as I follow up by emphasizing instruments with circles, so the vocals don't really need a clickable object here
00:30:314 (4,1) - DS looks kinda small compared to what youve been using in this section, like here 00:28:860 (6,1) upped spacing
00:33:187 (4,1) - ^ ^
01:05:017 - finishes sound excessive in this section. i would at least get rid of this one 01:05:375 (1) because theres nothing in the background to support it
01:11:537 (3,4,5) - really pushing the limits of slider leniency imo, you can reduce spacing here same spacing as previous 1/4 sliders so it should be fine
01:16:378 (1,2,3,4) - isnt a straight line (i removed 01:16:920 (2) and tested it) it would look better if it was a straight line ok, I guess, never meant to put it in a straight line but it should look better now
01:22:540 (1) - same as Insane

Good luck!

no reply means fixed
~~Will finish later~~

Thanks alot for the mod, this is what I was looking for

Lokidoki

335 posts

Joined June 2015

Lokidoki 2017-07-08T20:07:03+00:00

queue modding

[Crimmi's Normal]
00:12:603 (2,3) - make that a bit more linear by moving the slider to x:296 y:276 and fix the blanket with 00:13:868 (4) -
00:50:379 (3,4) - this rhythm and object placing seems unfitting for the map as a whole
01:23:444 (4) - unneeded slider
start the spinner at 01:23:805 (1) -

[aigoh's Hard]
01:03:755 (1,2,3) - why is the first slider curved and others are not, the flow here should be more curved, rather than strict and linear
01:22:359 (1) - tbh, kinda ugly

[Insane]
00:04:290 (1) - 1/2 recovery after that spinner may not be enough if you're posing this as a LI. also, it is a bit too short imo, so i suggest you remove it.
00:25:775 (2) - why is that one so far away?
00:29:587 (2,3) - this is not a good flow, make (3) curved a bit
00:49:096 (3) - i'd rather not follow the vocals.
01:12:976 (2) - from curved to linear to curved, that slider is flowing very strangely.
01:22:540 - that spinner is unneded here, make a circle there if you want, but all it does is just ruin the HP.

[Golden Fairy]
00:04:290 (1) - same as before
00:49:096 (3) - ^
00:51:103 (2,3,4,5) - tbh this is too edgy and too awkward of a flow, make it softer.
01:05:017 (1,2,1,2,1) - why NCs?
01:05:910 (2,3,4,1) - again more strange flows, make them slower as well, make (2) a curved slider so it would play nicer.
01:22:540 (1) - same as stated before in the mod.

aigoh

311 posts

Joined February 2014

aigoh 2017-07-09T05:41:26+00:00

Thanks for mods!

Yahuri wrote:
aigoh's Hard
-its not quite clear to me when you have jumps and when you dont. for example this 00:52:014 (5,1) - has no jump and this 01:01:941 (4,1) does (both have the same hitsounding) Yeah, I agree--I was confused because the drum finishes there are not logical. I'll try to fix these parts
00:32:643 (3,5) - stack makes this pattern look messy imo fixed
00:42:782 (3,1) - blanket? keeping
00:53:615 (1,2,3) - flow looks a bit weird because of the wide angle and the jump from 2-3
01:00:506 (1) - NC not necessary imo fixed
01:00:506 (1,1) - could add in a jump fixed
01:21:094 (1,2) - fix stack fixed

Lokidoki wrote:
01:03:755 (1,2,3) - why is the first slider curved and others are not, the flow here should be more curved, rather than strict and linear I am following the drum here, where it is hitting on something real solid.
01:22:359 (1) - tbh, kinda ugly Changed XD

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Stack

osu! Alumni

723 posts

Joined March 2015

Topic Starter

Stack 2017-07-09T13:55:48+00:00

Lokidoki wrote:
queue modding
[Insane]
00:04:290 (1) - 1/2 recovery after that spinner may not be enough if you're posing this as a LI. also, it is a bit too short imo, so i suggest you remove it. removed after previuous mod
00:25:775 (2) - why is that one so far away? The sound gets a ton louder
00:29:587 (2,3) - this is not a good flow, make (3) curved a bit okay I guess
00:49:096 (3) - i'd rather not follow the vocals.not mapping this jsut felt weird
01:12:976 (2) - from curved to linear to curved, that slider is flowing very strangely.They are all curved in some way so it should be fine
01:22:540 - that spinner is unneded here, make a circle there if you want, but all it does is just ruin the HP. I'll see what I can do about this, but the ending time needs to be consistent wiith the gd's
[Golden Fairy]
00:04:290 (1) - same as before ^
00:49:096 (3) - ^ ^
00:51:103 (2,3,4,5) - tbh this is too edgy and too awkward of a flow, make it softer.meh, flow looks good
01:05:017 (1,2,1,2,1) - why NCs? oops, this was from when I was copypasting the pattern
01:05:910 (2,3,4,1) - again more strange flows, make them slower as well, make (2) a curved slider so it would play nicer.flow changes beacause I follow vocals for a while
01:22:540 (1) - same as stated before in the mod.^

Thanks for the mod

Xiaolin

1,857 posts

Joined April 2013

Xiaolin 2017-07-10T13:26:39+00:00

M4M

[Crimmi's Normal]

Why 2 ticks?
00:25:775 (4,2) - These two could be stacked properly.
01:04:839 (3,4,5) - Move (5) a bit to the right to make a linear flow with (3) and (4).
01:17:838 (3) - Almost touching the HP bar. It may not touch the HP bar, but would be better to move it a bit down since it could confuse players.

[aigoh's Hard]

00:12:242 (2,3,4) - Personally, stacking (3) and (4) would visualy look better.
00:20:374 (1) - This not spaced out yet 00:23:266 (1) - has the same finish sound, and both of them start with strong vocals, but the first timing swap I mentioned isn't spaced out unlike this.

[Insane]

00:20:013 (4,5) - I don't really see why these two are spaced out. Looking at this section, notes with this sound all have the same distance, there really isn't any jump or anything, but these two are, which is questionable to me. Consider using DS on these two since there really isn't any special sound or strong vocals, so there's no reason to space them out.
00:28:133 (2,3,4,5,6) - I also pretty much don't see a reason for adding a jump here. This part, there isn't really any strong sounds or vocals, they don't sound too low either, I think you should reduce the jump here because like I said, there isn't any strong vocals or sound. Same goes for 00:31:029 (2,3,4,5,6) - 00:33:913 (2,3,4,5,6) -

[Golden Fairy]

00:24:350 - In insane this sound is emphasised with a slider end, but here it's different.. suggest making this a slider end so you can add a hitsound here.

Good luck!

aigoh

311 posts

Joined February 2014

aigoh 2017-07-11T00:56:45+00:00

Thank you for mod!

Xiaolin wrote:
00:12:242 (2,3,4) - Personally, stacking (3) and (4) would visualy look better. I don't think so...I also don't think that would be appropriate for a hard or be consistent with the rest of the map '-'
00:20:374 (1) - This not spaced out yet 00:23:266 (1) - has the same finish sound, and both of them start with strong vocals, but the first timing swap I mentioned isn't spaced out unlike this. DS-wise, it is a 1.65x jump vs. the normal 1.4x. But I changed something

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timemon

Beatmap Nominator

1,286 posts

Joined November 2012

timemon 2017-07-11T16:43:41+00:00

NM, Sorry I'm late.

[aigoh's Hard]
00:21:820 (1,2) - why suddenly switch focus from vocal to instrument? should be one long slider like you did previously.
00:58:484 (3) - the red anchor is positioned at almost at the end of the slider move in back toward the middle a bit.
01:05:910 (4) - bad angle I suggest this: http://i.imgur.com/L62fymD.png
01:07:001 (2) - should be 2 clickable objects the vocal is active on both the head and tail.
01:22:359 (1) - I think wave slider looks better when they're either 180/90 degree. This one is not vertical and is a bit tilted so it looks weird.

[Insane]
00:20:374 (1) - slider is a bit too close to other slider
00:24:712 (1) - bad angle imo, either reduce the angle to 5-10 degree or make it a curve slider.
00:53:436 (1) - should follow the vocal and make it all circles, turn it into a jump.
00:57:930 (1) - angle is a bit extreme here, reduce it a bit it's like 45 degree.
01:02:662 (3) - change to circle and then a 1/2 slider at 01:02:843 -

Good luck!

Stack

osu! Alumni

723 posts

Joined March 2015

Topic Starter

Stack 2017-07-13T20:02:07+00:00

Xiaolin wrote:
M4M
[Insane]

00:20:013 (4,5) - I don't really see why these two are spaced out. Looking at this section, notes with this sound all have the same distance, there really isn't any jump or anything, but these two are, which is questionable to me. Consider using DS on these two since there really isn't any special sound or strong vocals, so there's no reason to space them out. It's too show that the piano adds something extra to the song which I wanted to show by increasing spacing by a little bit
00:28:133 (2,3,4,5,6) - I also pretty much don't see a reason for adding a jump here. This part, there isn't really any strong sounds or vocals, they don't sound too low either, I think you should reduce the jump here because like I said, there isn't any strong vocals or sound. Same goes for 00:31:029 (2,3,4,5,6) - 00:33:913 (2,3,4,5,6) - There is that sound that gets louder each time right before the measure ends that is imo louder than the vocals, so I made some jumps to show the loud sound and the snares are in a 1/2 rhythm

[Golden Fairy]

00:24:350 - In insane this sound is emphasised with a slider end, but here it's different.. suggest making this a slider end so you can add a hitsound here. made it into a reverse and added whistle

Good luck!

timemon wrote:
NM, Sorry I'm late.
[Insane]
00:20:374 (1) - slider is a bit too close to other slider It follows the 1,5x ds I have been following the entire time and doesn't overlap so that should be fine
00:24:712 (1) - bad angle imo, either reduce the angle to 5-10 degree or make it a curve slider. Would want to do this but would cause overlpa with 00:24:712 (1,3) -
00:53:436 (1) - should follow the vocal and make it all circles, turn it into a jump. The density of the instrumental sounds lowers like a ton here so I chose to focus on those as I mostly fllow instrumentals in the chorus
00:57:930 (1) - angle is a bit extreme here, reduce it a bit it's like 45 degree. reduced by 10 degrees
01:02:662 (3) - change to circle and then a 1/2 slider at 01:02:843 - yup

Good luck!

Thanks for the mods
@aigoh, when you start applying the next mod start with the updated version of your diff as I took hytex out of the tags cause his GD isn't it the set anymore

aigoh

311 posts

Joined February 2014

aigoh 2017-07-15T06:26:30+00:00

timemon wrote:
00:21:820 (1,2) - why suddenly switch focus from vocal to instrument? should be one long slider like you did previously.Ahh why'd I do that XD changed!
00:58:484 (3) - the red anchor is positioned at almost at the end of the slider move in back toward the middle a bit.I think it looks fine
01:05:910 (4) - bad angle I suggest this: http://i.imgur.com/L62fymD.png I just remapped this part--your suggestion doesn't use spacing emphasis on the right places
01:07:001 (2) - should be 2 clickable objects the vocal is active on both the head and tail.I'm following the drum here, so it should be fine
01:22:359 (1) - I think wave slider looks better when they're either 180/90 degree. This one is not vertical and is a bit tilted so it looks weird.I think it looks fine

Thanks for the mod, timemon!

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Chalwa

1,068 posts

Joined August 2014

Chalwa 2017-07-15T18:00:56+00:00

Hello from queue!

[General]

Nothing i think c:

[Normal]

Please set slider tick to 1, because sliders like 00:52:190 (1) have kinda broken slider ticks (at the end).
00:13:868 (4) - It's not about blanket improving, but look at this you have two strong sounds, so if you blanket it with 00:12:784 (3) you make optical smaller DS like it's over blanket. You can experiment with it, but I prefer it unblanketed.
00:41:879 (3) - Here strong drum and vocal's end is on red tick, no on white like you made. It's improving rhythm a lot imo.
00:48:719 - You should put here a note since is really strong drum here and it's really nice building atmosphere before kiai .
01:10:405 (2,3) - You can improve this blanket, cause, as you can see, a start of slider is nearer to circle than end of this object.
01:18:193 (1,2) - You should move the second slider a bit to up cause a overlaping start of one slider with end of second slider is kinda unaesthetic. Also on 01:18:193 (1,2,3,1) you have inconsistent DS, so you should to fix them.

[Hard]

00:17:483 (1,3) - This overlap is fine, when endcirlce of second slider isn't on slider track. Here it's a half of end overlapped, so looks kinda weird for me. I know it's hard to change, but be creative!
00:20:374 (1,3) - Same as above (if you want to keep more this patterns, make more in next patterns, then they are readable and don't look that weird).
01:00:131 (8) - END OF THIS SLIDER IS UNSNAPPED!
01:05:553 (2,3) - This jump feels kinda weird, when there isn't that strong sound. More reasonable thing is jump between 01:05:731 (3,4) two objects in my opinion.
01:12:051 (8) - Why you didn't make double repeated 1/4 slider like on 01:11:703 (7) when sounds are really similliar tbh.

[Insane]

00:27:587 (1) - Better for aesthetics is little left curve, but it's only my little opinion.
Nice diff C:

Good Luck~!

Last edited by Chalwa 2017-07-16T18:33:08+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Milar001

599 posts

Joined May 2016

Milar001 2017-07-16T13:17:15+00:00

Hi from queue

00:27:587 (3) - I think that replacing this slider with two shorter sliders, first from slider's beginning to 00:27:951, second from 00:28:133 to slider's end would better follow the music
00:34:821 (1) - Also if you shorten this slider half of a beat and add a circle on it's currentl end it should be better
00:47:657 (3) - In my opinion this hitsound is too loud
00:52:190 (1) - Another time shorten this slider half of a beat, add one more repetition and ctrl+g
01:04:839 (3,4,5) - There something wrong with timing here because the song is slower than the map, I think deleting 4 will help

Generally I think that cs 4 is little to big as you have the same cs in 2 harder diffs
00:01:399 (3,3) - Maybe nc here instead of 00:01:579 (1,1)?
00:07:724 (2) - I feel like the hitsound here is too strong
01:05:017 (5) - Nc here instead of 01:05:197 (1)
01:16:739 - Why there no object here, it will be more natural

Good diff
00:01:399 (4,4,4) - The same comment as in hard diff
00:04:290 (4) - Why so quiet?
00:12:694 (3) - It would be better without this imo, but it is also fine how it is

00:15:856 (4) - Nc here would be better (Comment for whole section, not single object)
00:17:302 (4,1) - This is only situation here when spacing changes, so it can be little unpredictable
00:20:194 (5) - Nc here
00:49:096 (3) - Nc here

I do not have anything to say about highest diff, Gj

yShadowXOP_

473 posts

Joined January 2016

yShadowXOP_ 2017-07-16T17:57:58+00:00

Loli's Mod Queue

yShadowXOP_ wrote:
Golden Fairy:

00:24:893 - you ignored the sound here.
00:53:436 (1) - i think it's better to put a 1/2 slider in addition to the vocal, it also fits with the music
00:53:076 (4) - circulo here would better
00:58:946 - triple because of drum beating
01:08:630 (4) - NC

Insane:
00:15:314 (3,1) - maybe a blanket here? like here 00:21:820 (1,3) -
00:56:134 (5) - maybe stack at the end of the slider? 00:55:413 (2) -
01:05:910 (5) - slider 1/2 fits best

aigoh's Hard:
00:47:657 (1) -
00:48:189 - maybe a triple?
01:10:792 (5) - NC

Music and map in my opinion are great

Good Luck~

Stack

osu! Alumni

723 posts

Joined March 2015

Topic Starter

Stack 2017-07-16T18:12:14+00:00

yShadowXOP_ wrote:
Loli's Mod Queue

yShadowXOP_ wrote:
Golden Fairy:

00:24:893 - you ignored the sound here.I made it like this for alot more emphasis on the growing sound as now you go from standing in 1 spot to jumps really quickly
00:53:436 (1) - i think it's better to put a 1/2 slider in addition to the vocal, it also fits with the music I want to emphasize the instruments more here but if it gets brought up again I'll maybe change it
00:53:076 (4) - circulo here would better I'm guessing you mean to add circular flow here which I don't want to as this map tries to avoid that
00:58:946 - triple because of drum beating I only hear 2 beats and those are the ones I mapped at 00:58:854 (5,6) -
01:08:630 (4) - NC sound is not very special so I don't see any reason to deviate from the normal once every downbeat

Insane:
00:15:314 (3,1) - maybe a blanket here? like here 00:21:820 (1,3) - I blanketed the tail this time, but noticed it was off so fixed that
00:56:134 (5) - maybe stack at the end of the slider? 00:55:413 (2) - made it more similar to 00:55:953 (4,1) - 's stack instead
01:05:910 (5) - slider 1/2 fits best I wanted some variation instead of the samey 1/2 spam I had the entire time sand this seemed like the best spot
Music and map in my opinion are great Thanks!

Good Luck~

Milar001 wrote:
Hi from queue
Good diff thanks
00:01:399 (4,4,4) - The same comment as in hard diff Understandable but the piano on the downbeat is more impactful than the others imo
00:04:290 (4) - Why so quiet? fixed hs
00:12:694 (3) - It would be better without this imo, but it is also fine how it is It's already a simplification of the rhythm on the top diff and the osund is quite loud
00:15:856 (4) - Nc here would be better (Comment for whole section, not single object) Alot of the important sounds on which I base my spacing in this part are on the downbeat so I really want to NC those
00:17:302 (4,1) - This is only situation here when spacing changes, so it can be little unpredictable it also changes at 00:20:194 (5,1) - /00:21:640 (4,1) - so it should be fine but I'll mkeep an eye on it
00:20:194 (5) - Nc here The 00:20:374 (1) - is way heavier also what I said before about nc's in this section
00:49:096 (3) - Nc here It's the same as the top diff so it should be fine but if people mention it alot then I'll change it

I do not have anything to say about highest diff, Gj

Chalwa wrote:
Hello from queue!
[General]
Nothing i think c: yeey
[Insane]
00:27:587 (1) - Better for aesthetics is little left curve, but it's only my little opinion. sure
Nice diff C: thanks

Good Luck~!

Thanks for the mods everyone

Lexis

524 posts

Joined March 2014

Lexis 2017-07-17T12:12:11+00:00

400 Posts !

M4M from my queue : t/599392
So I'll focus on top 3 diffs, and I'll try to find some things on normal if I can ^^

[Golden Fairy]

00:19:652 (3,4,5) - These jumps to emphasize the piano behind the music is a good idea, but the piano is really hard to hear, I really need to replay 1 or two times to understand what do you want to emphasize by these jumps, maybe nerf the spacing a bit to follow the song ?
00:44:231 (3,5) - Doing a blanket here could make the pattern way better and the placing of these elements don't feel natural imo.
00:48:018 (2,3,4) - The placing of the elements, who needs some reading and the timing point changes makes this pattern really hard to play, maybe make (4) more visible to make the pattern easier to play ?

[Insane]

00:29:769 (3) - You can do something with this slider, it looks quite random, plus the stacking is not needed at all. Maybe change 00:29:042 (1) - to do a double blanket with (3) or something else ?
00:58:484 (4,5,1) - These blankets can be improved
01:17:300 (3,4,5) - That triangle can be improved too

[Aigoh's Hard]

00:03:567 (2) - Move the end of (2) a bit in the direction of (1), the blanket will be better
00:15:856 (4,1) - Triangle ?
00:51:838 (4,1,2) - Improve blanket

[Crimmi's Normal]

The CS is really low, you could change it easily to 3, most of normal diffs have a CS enter 3 & 3.5.
The slider tick rate can be changed to 1 instead of 2 too.
00:36:274 (3) - Out of screen

Asonate

476 posts

Joined July 2013

Asonate 2017-07-17T15:03:33+00:00

M4M wooo

[Crimmi]

00:12:242 - consider making this sound hittable, 00:12:061 - by putting this on a sliderend you'd also make that feel fuller.
00:15:676 (2,3) - blanketnazi me
00:25:775 (4) - this feels really out of place, with the 1/2 sounds being quite strong here, consider using a slider here.
00:46:942 - similar to before, since you are using 1/2 gaps already, i feel this could profit greatly by being tappable.
00:48:719 - similarly here. since youll either have changed it or not i wont call out any repeats of this pattern, since youll be able to find them yourselves and we have less text you need to skim through.
01:05:017 - the slider starting 1/2 later feels really off, since the emphasis is mostly on this note here.
01:09:162 (5,6,1) - heres absolutely fine tho.

[aigoh]

O boy, CS 4 makes the transition from the normal to the hard pretty though for newer players, id imagine. If it doesnt hurt any blankets and the like, consider CS 3/3.5
Âlso not sure how the spread works nowadays, but you might need an advanced in the 2.5 SR range. 1.5 SR difference between Normal and Hard is quite big.
00:35:366 (2,3,4,1,2) - really like what you did there, nice one!
01:13:890 (1,2,3,4,1) - inn case you wante to go for a pentagon with these, they are not quite perfect yet. You can create a pentagon by using ctrl+shift+d.
01:21:094 (1,2) - in case that stackbeing a few px off is intentional, I didnt say anything. Otherwise, you should quickly restack this.
Solid diff, not a whole lot to say!

[Insane]

00:20:013 (4,5) - consider stacking these two, theres not a whole lot in the song justifying that spacing.
01:11:537 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - this could be a bit higher spaced to differenciate to the previous streams, which did not have the hitsounds and feelt less intense.
01:15:315 (2) - consider moving the nc to this one.
You make this hard for my friend, not much to point out which isnt just my opinion lol.

[Golden Fairy]

00:48:379 (4) - i think you could give this a little nudge via ctrl+r by like 7-156 degrees and it would look kinda neat!
01:11:877 (5,6,7,8,9,10) - you can probably go a bit higher spacing here if you want to.
01:17:654 (5,6,7) - maybe space that a bit further from 4 to get a bit away from the almost but not quite perfect triangle shape. also gives you more pressure on the triple, which could fit well for the ending.
01:18:193 (1,1,1) - if you want to take the time you could do some neat sliderart for these.

Thats all folks!
As i wrote in the hard diff, check up wether the spread works like that, and you should be good to go!
If you have any questions feel free to hit me up ingame or via pm

GL!

Stack

osu! Alumni

723 posts

Joined March 2015

Topic Starter

Stack 2017-07-17T21:28:30+00:00

Lexis wrote:
400 Posts !
M4M from my queue : t/599392
So I'll focus on top 3 diffs, and I'll try to find some things on normal if I can ^^

[Golden Fairy]

00:19:652 (3,4,5) - These jumps to emphasize the piano behind the music is a good idea, but the piano is really hard to hear, I really need to replay 1 or two times to understand what do you want to emphasize by these jumps, maybe nerf the spacing a bit to follow the song ? after repeated mentions lowered spacing
00:44:231 (3,5) - Doing a blanket here could make the pattern way better and the placing of these elements don't feel natural imo. k
00:48:018 (2,3,4) - The placing of the elements, who needs some reading and the timing point changes makes this pattern really hard to play, maybe make (4) more visible to make the pattern easier to play ? all testplayers up till now actually hit this with ease and it also comes back at 01:00:131 (4,5,6,7) - so it should be fine

[Insane]

00:29:769 (3) - You can do something with this slider, it looks quite random, plus the stacking is not needed at all. Maybe change 00:29:042 (1) - to do a double blanket with (3) or something else ? Changed some things and may change jumps if it gets brought up again
00:58:484 (4,5,1) - These blankets can be improved I feel like its as good as it can get without using a verys trongly curved wave slider
01:17:300 (3,4,5) - That triangle can be improved too made it pixel perfect

Asonate wrote:
M4M wooo
[Insane]
00:20:013 (4,5) - consider stacking these two, theres not a whole lot in the song justifying that spacing. stacking doesn't feel right so I lowered spacing a bit
01:11:537 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - this could be a bit higher spaced to differenciate to the previous streams, which did not have the hitsounds and feelt less intense. yupyup
01:15:315 (2) - consider moving the nc to this one. yeah, that works better
You make this hard for my friend, not much to point out which isnt just my opinion lol.

[Golden Fairy]
00:48:379 (4) - i think you could give this a little nudge via ctrl+r by like 7-156 degrees and it would look kinda neat! looks kinda cool but want to keep my symmetry
01:11:877 (5,6,7,8,9,10) - you can probably go a bit higher spacing here if you want to. The most intense part of the song is 01:07:905 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - after which I want to keep some intensity but not really make it super difficult to hit which is why I chose for a stream spaced this closely
01:17:654 (5,6,7) - maybe space that a bit further from 4 to get a bit away from the almost but not quite perfect triangle shape. also gives you more pressure on the triple, which could fit well for the ending. yup
01:18:193 (1,1,1) - if you want to take the time you could do some neat sliderart for these. Then you have not seen my sliderart, its absoluetly horrible, so i chose the easy way which seems a bit lazy but also fits

Thats all folks!
As i wrote in the hard diff, check up wether the spread works like that, and you should be good to go! I know the spread is a problem and I'm looking for a good gder
If you have any questions feel free to hit me up ingame or via pm

GL!

still listening to the song from your map btw, its too good

Thanks for the mods

aigoh

311 posts

Joined February 2014

aigoh 2017-07-18T01:17:30+00:00

Omg...so many mods. Thanks for the mod, guys

Chalwa wrote:
00:17:483 (1,3) - This overlap is fine, when endcirlce of second slider isn't on slider track. Here it's a half of end overlapped, so looks kinda weird for me. I know it's hard to change, but be creative! I'll keep this in mind if more modders say it looks weird. Keeping for now
00:20:374 (1,3) - Same as above (if you want to keep more this patterns, make more in next patterns, then they are readable and don't look that weird).
01:00:131 (8) - END OF THIS SLIDER IS UNSNAPPED! Timing is in progress, so I'm waiting for it.
01:05:553 (2,3) - This jump feels kinda weird, when there isn't that strong sound. More reasonable thing is jump between 01:05:731 (3,4) two objects in my opinion. I am adding jumps wherever the drum finishes are.
01:12:051 (8) - Why you didn't make double repeated 1/4 slider like on 01:11:703 (7) when sounds are really similliar tbh. 01:11:703 - this part is drum, and I switched to vocal at 01:12:051 -
[/notice]

Milar001 wrote:
]Generally I think that cs 4 is little to big as you have the same cs in 2 harder diffs Referring to other hard diffs, the CS should be 4.
00:01:399 (3,3) - Maybe nc here instead of 00:01:579 (1,1)? I'll keep this in mind
00:07:724 (2) - I feel like the hitsound here is too strong It's more of a timing issue '-' the drum sound is off
01:05:017 (5) - Nc here instead of 01:05:197 (1) Why?? I am doing NC every big 1/1 beat
01:16:739 - Why there no object here, it will be more natural Extended slider instead!

yShadowXOP_ wrote:
00:47:657 (1) -
00:48:189 - maybe a triple? Keeping like this because I wanted to focus on the biggest drum sounds
01:10:792 (5) - NC sure!

Lexis wrote:
00:03:567 (2) - Move the end of (2) a bit in the direction of (1), the blanket will be better alright
00:15:856 (4,1) - Triangle ? ?
00:51:838 (4,1,2) - Improve blanketi think it's fine

Asonate wrote:
O boy, CS 4 makes the transition from the normal to the hard pretty though for newer players, id imagine. If it doesnt hurt any blankets and the like, consider CS 3/3.5 Thing is, CS is not the problem here. 4 is a pretty standard CS for any hards.
Âlso not sure how the spread works nowadays, but you might need an advanced in the 2.5 SR range. 1.5 SR difference between Normal and Hard is quite big.
00:35:366 (2,3,4,1,2) - really like what you did there, nice one! thanks
01:13:890 (1,2,3,4,1) - inn case you wante to go for a pentagon with these, they are not quite perfect yet. You can create a pentagon by using ctrl+shift+d. I first made a perfect pentagon and then moved 01:15:315 (1) - up the y axis, then rotated. This is because there is a hitfinish on 01:15:315 - . So keeping for now.
01:21:094 (1,2) - in case that stackbeing a few px off is intentional, I didnt say anything. Otherwise, you should quickly restack this.Haha, i fixed it. But stacking is so annoying af. Every time I save and re-open, it moves by 1-2 pixels. It might be that osu itself rounds up/down on the grid...x(
Solid diff, not a whole lot to say! Thanks!

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yaspo

Nomination Assessment Team

173 posts

Joined September 2014

yaspo 2017-07-18T19:29:36+00:00

Hi, from my queue!
holy city of redlines

[Golden Fairy]

Overall, I personally don't like some of the rhythms in this difficulty. At times you follow the vocals faithfully, but then you suddenly switch for sounds that don't seem very important.
Variation can be nice, but there needs to be a good reason to use it; one that players and modders can recognise, which I don't feel is often the case here.
I suggest that you go through this map again and see what instrument you're following, and if the variations on rhythm you make are justified.
Your Insane has very similar problems in my opinion, so I suggest you look at that as well.

00:16:399 (2) - there is a vocal on the end of this slider, which I feel would be better of as a circle instead
you could turn 00:16:037 (1) - into a 1/2 repeat or a 1/1 slider to make that happen
I can see that you want some variation in your rhythm, but since you're following the vocals perfectly right before 00:14:591 (1,2,3,4,1) - and after 00:16:760 (3,4,1) - , it really feels as if you randomly switched rhythm for this 1 slider
same here 00:19:290 (2) -
00:20:013 (4,5) - I think ctrl + g'ing these notes would work well
currently the movement is a bit intense http://i.imgur.com/OA8S3Bf.png in comparison with what you already have in this section, while the music implies the opposite, since the vocal line pauses for a moment
00:28:314 (3,4) - I feel like a 1/2 slider would fit better here, 4 doesn't seem like it falls on an important sound
it would also better represent the held vocal on 00:28:314 (3) - and help transitioning from vocals to the drum 00:28:678 (5) -
aside from that, cutting up those jump patterns might better separate this section from the first part of the kiai in terms of rhythmic intensity
same applies here 00:31:384 (4,5) - 00:34:095 (3,4) -
00:29:769 (3,4) - while this is mostly fine, be careful with these patterns. The player will most likely try to abuse slider leniency to hit 4 http://i.imgur.com/Vw9O3UW.png
in cases like this, that might cause the player to sliderbreak, while I don't think that is what you intended
same applies here 01:16:378 (1,2) -
00:36:274 (1) - you could try turning this into two 1/2 sliders and remove 00:36:813 (2) -
this way the drum and high pitched guitar on the sliderend would be brought out more,
you'd keep the momentum you built up here 00:34:821 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - ,
you wouldn't miss out on the sound here 00:36:453 - ,
and 00:36:813 (2) - seems like the least important sound in this combo 00:36:274 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - , so a sliderend would be fitting there
00:45:135 (2) - I feel like a more intense rhythm would be better here, it would be a better buildup towards the stream here 00:46:034 (4,5,6,7,1) -
you would also avoid skipping on the both guitar and vocals here 00:45:316 -
something like this could work http://i.imgur.com/Wl3kzcl.png
00:53:436 (1) - this is really underwhelming for how much there is going on
I suggest trying a more active rhythm, or at least a 1/2 repeat to represent the difference better
01:00:677 (7) - it might be interesting to separate this slider visually, since it has a vocal on it while the others don't

Outside of that, this looks like a pretty good set, good luck!

Stack

osu! Alumni

723 posts

Joined March 2015

Topic Starter

Stack 2017-07-18T23:15:31+00:00

yaspo wrote:
Hi, from my queue!
holy city of redlines timing check soontm

[Golden Fairy]

Overall, I personally don't like some of the rhythms in this difficulty. At times you follow the vocals faithfully, but then you suddenly switch for sounds that don't seem very important.
Variation can be nice, but there needs to be a good reason to use it; one that players and modders can recognise, which I don't feel is often the case here.
I suggest that you go through this map again and see what instrument you're following, and if the variations on rhythm you make are justified.
Your Insane has very similar problems in my opinion, so I suggest you look at that as well.

00:16:399 (2) - there is a vocal on the end of this slider, which I feel would be better of as a circle instead
you could turn 00:16:037 (1) - into a 1/2 repeat or a 1/1 slider to make that happen possible but would make me miss the very obvious sound on 00:16:399 (2) - 's head rn which I also value
I can see that you want some variation in your rhythm, but since you're following the vocals perfectly right before 00:14:591 (1,2,3,4,1) - and after In the first version of this map it was exactly like you just said, following vocals by using circle + 1/1 slider and it was awfully dull and uninteresting to play so after an Irc with some people I changed some stuff in the first half to not make it so monotonous, I can see the desire to be consistent but be being too consistent isn't fun to play
00:16:760 (3,4,1) - , it really feels as if you randomly switched rhythm for this 1 slider
same here 00:19:290 (2) - I wouldn't really call it random when it happens twice on the exact same time in comparison to the downbeats but yeah, same as above
00:20:013 (4,5) - I think ctrl + g'ing these notes would work well
currently the movement is a bit intense http://i.imgur.com/OA8S3Bf.png in comparison with what you already have in this section, while the music implies the opposite, since the vocal line pauses for a moment ctrl+g would cause for a really large gap between 00:20:194 (5,1) - which I don't want, also this section has been nerfed to be less harsh and imo your version is alot harsher to play with the really sharp angles
00:28:314 (3,4) - I feel like a 1/2 slider would fit better here, 4 doesn't seem like it falls on an important sound
it would also better represent the held vocal on 00:28:314 (3) - and help transitioning from vocals to the drum 00:28:678 (5) -
aside from that, cutting up those jump patterns might better separate this section from the first part of the kiai in terms of rhythmic intensity
same applies here 00:31:384 (4,5) - 00:34:095 (3,4) - The sounds of the guitar and drum, especially the guitar get louder at the end of each measure which made me want to reflect that by switching to those and mapping their repretetive nature with back and forths.
While the last circle is different form the rest in this case 00:28:860 (6) - to show the rhythm switching back to vocals again
00:29:769 (3,4) - while this is mostly fine, be careful with these patterns. The player will most likely try to abuse slider leniency to hit 4 http://i.imgur.com/Vw9O3UW.png
in cases like this, that might cause the player to sliderbreak, while I don't think that is what you intended
same applies here 01:16:378 (1,2) - A sliderbreak can't happen beacause there are no sliderticks inside it for the players to miss on, I might chagne the pattern for reduced slider leniency stuff if it gets brought up again
00:36:274 (1) - you could try turning this into two 1/2 sliders and remove 00:36:813 (2) -
this way the drum and high pitched guitar on the sliderend would be brought out more,
you'd keep the momentum you built up here 00:34:821 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - ,
you wouldn't miss out on the sound here 00:36:453 - , I want to use 1/1 rhythms when focussing on instrumentals in this part so it's consistent with stuff like 00:29:042 (1,2,3,4,1) - which wasn't only meant for the vocals
If it gets brought up more then I will prob change it to 3/4 + circle as I am not a fan of usign 2 1/2's
and 00:36:813 (2) - seems like the least important sound in this combo 00:36:274 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - , so a sliderend would be fitting there
00:45:135 (2) - I feel like a more intense rhythm would be better here, it would be a better buildup towards the stream here 00:46:034 (4,5,6,7,1) -
you would also avoid skipping on the both guitar and vocals here 00:45:316 -
something like this could work http://i.imgur.com/Wl3kzcl.png yupyup, did not map the vocal first time round, way better now
Also changed for the insane
00:53:436 (1) - this is really underwhelming for how much there is going on
I suggest trying a more active rhythm, or at least a 1/2 repeat to represent the difference better In the kiai I focus almost all the time on instrumentals so when a part with only a few intrumentals comes by then ofcourse the object density lowers
Your point is perfectly valid in the way you see the song, when I listen I actually feel a decrease in intensity here beacause the usual instrumentals on the red and white tick fall away
01:00:677 (7) - it might be interesting to separate this slider visually, since it has a vocal on it while the others don't again like the previous one, the focus is on the instruments and beacause those only change at 01:00:856 (1) - I want the impact to be felt there

Outside of that, this looks like a pretty good set, good luck!

Tbh, most of the points you brought up are valid and I really did not expect this level of modding form someone with that postcount but what it basically comes down to is that I see the song differently which is most obviously noticed at 00:53:436 (1,2,3,4) - where you feel like it gets more intense while I feel it lowers in intensity
Hopefully you understand most of the reasoning I made when mapping it this way and why I did not choose for your options

@aigoh I asked a few people under which a bn for the repeat through a timing point and the general consensus was to change the rhythm used beacause it's actually impossible to snap both reverse and sliderend
removing the point which I thought about also isn't that great an idea

aigoh

311 posts

Joined February 2014

aigoh 2017-07-19T05:03:23+00:00

gottagof4ast wrote:
@aigoh I asked a few people under which a bn for the repeat through a timing point and the general consensus was to change the rhythm used beacause it's actually impossible to snap both reverse and sliderend
removing the point which I thought about also isn't that great an idea

Makes sense. I changed the rhythm!

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Rakuen

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Rakuen 2017-07-22T01:07:08+00:00

(◕ᴗ◕✿) Rakuen Diva Trap Modding Queue [osu!standard]

Default = Normal mods
Blue = Strongly recommended
Red = Unrankable issue

Metadata

Change the song title to "Destin Histoire -TV size-" as latest ranked version in 2014 may not be accurate
Here's your source: http://columbia.jp/prod-info/COCX-36662/

Timing

We don't need that amount of red timing points, try make one with 166 BPM and 120 offset
I'll still mod based on your original timing since you may not agree with this

Crimmi's Normal

00:00:134 - Why not map this part too? This is the only diff left out for this part
01:04:839 (3,4,5) - The vocal's not on 1/2s, probably just cover it with slider from 01:04:481 -

Insane

00:05:013 - Missed a hit for piano here

Golden Fairy

00:05:013 - Piano

Everything looks ok except for timing XD

Good luck!
~(=^･ω･^)/｡･:*:･ﾟ★，｡･:*:･ﾟ☆

Stack

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Stack 2017-07-22T12:04:22+00:00

Rakuen wrote:
(◕ᴗ◕✿) Rakuen Diva Trap Modding Queue [osu!standard]

Default = Normal mods
Blue = Strongly recommended
Red = Unrankable issue
Metadata
Change the song title to "Destin Histoire -TV size-" as latest ranked version in 2014 may not be accurate
Here's your source: http://columbia.jp/prod-info/COCX-36662/ yeah, this one should be more correct ~changed~
Timing
We don't need that amount of red timing points, try make one with 166 BPM and 120 offset
I'll still mod based on your original timing since you may not agree with this a timing check is coming soon (hopefully) which will make sure that the timing is correct
Insane
00:05:013 - Missed a hit for piano here mapping the piano here would take away a ton of the emphasis which I want to give to 00:05:194 (1,2) - so I like it more like this
Golden Fairy
00:05:013 - Piano same thing as above

Everything looks ok except for timing XD

Good luck!
~(=^･ω･^)/｡･:*:･ﾟ★，｡･:*:･ﾟ☆

Thanks for the mod

Stack

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Stack 2017-07-23T09:08:49+00:00

Also updated Crimmi's Normal which he sent with pm as he doesn't have the time to reply to all the mods individually

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