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Jaye
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Wednesday, 16 January 2019 at 12:56:39 AM

Artist: orangentle / Yu_Asahina
Title: HAELEQUINZ -the clown of 24stairs-
Tags: Zetera BMS SOUND VOLTEX HAELEQUIN/HAELEQ∩INZ Comiket 87 C87 KLAMNOP NEXT NEXT-101 NEXT-001
BPM: 172
Filesize: 5791kb
Play Time: 03:47
Difficulties Available:
  1. Futsuu (2.51 stars, 648 notes)
  2. Kantan (1.82 stars, 342 notes)
  3. Knights of the Round (7.28 stars, 1909 notes)
  4. Muzukashii (3.39 stars, 1038 notes)
  5. Oni (4.22 stars, 1385 notes)
  6. Zetera's Inner Oni (5.15 stars, 1638 notes)
Download: orangentle / Yu_Asahina - HAELEQUINZ -the clown of 24stairs-
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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7* not farm map??!
Thanks to the FA announcement for the shoutout!!
Thanks to Zetera for the Inner Oni!

Finals NM pick for the Ausu!Taiko Tournament 2017! (Knights of the Round)
Round of 32 HR pick for the Continental Global Taiko Showdown 2019! (Zetera's Inner Oni)

Go support Erisiar for the background artwork, 'coz she's awesome <3

Thanks to -Kazu- (like 5x times), Epsile, Sansheng, Axer, and qoot (and Nardo) for their mods.

Ranked on my brother's birthday so I dedicate this to him I suppose.
xLolicore-
want me to put your diff in my mapset? Xd
-Kazu-
Mod requested in queue

[General]
  1. Add the following tags: "HAELEQUIN/HAELEQ∩INZ" (Name of the album the song is from) or just "HAELEQUIN" (prequel of this song), "Comiket 87" (release's event) "C87" (same), "KLAMNOP NEXT" (label the album is under), "NEXT-101" (catalog number), not sure about this but "C-Show" as he did the master for this album
  2. I think you can't use stuff like "~" on the diff name, gotta need confirmation on this one but I think you can't
  3. Right now, only "~Knights of the Round~" has Widescreen Support disabled. Uncheck that box on the other diffs.
  4. Can't really tell if happens on all the diffs (and yeah sorry for being lazy enough not to check them all) but as I can see on Knights diff, notes are unsnapped by 1ms. This is caused by a bug (because I've seen it too many times since I started modding, even on my own maps) so probably you'd want to Timing>Resnap All Notes (but beware as you'll need to manually adjust the 1/6 snapped notes as they will get stacked on 1/4 snaps if you resnap all notes while on 1/4 beat divisor).
[~Knights of the Round~]
  1. Very fun map, didn't really want to mod it before fcing but had shitmisses near the end :'(
  2. 01:11:162 - ~ 01:19:534 - I really don't think this section should be all finishers, because definitely there's some notes more loud than others and that isn't really representative on your map, so I'd leave finishers only on 01:11:162 (543,544,552,554,556,557,572,574,575,583,585,587) - .
  3. Nothing else, really. I don't really think going around asking for minor pattern changes is productive as I believe you know what you are doing, so it's okay in that regard.
[Zetera's -reality jester- Inner Oni]
  1. Okay so my thoughts about this diff aren't really positive so I hope you understand: I really feel like this diff is actually disruptive on the spread from Jaye's 7.27* diff because this diff has all the elements that usually makes a map to be around that Star Rating, the usage of 1/6 is too often to be considered an "introduction to 1/6" to lead into Jaye's diff talking spread-wise (tbh I don't really feel like Spread is too important between Inners as they are practically around the same skill level requeriment. I could be wrong though). Itself, the diff is pretty fun to play, doesn't differ much pattern wise to the song but I think it feels off in some notes here and there, nothing serious but I'll try to timestamp some. Back to the spread topic, I believe you should reserve the 1/6 to very strong and memorable parts of the song like kiais or whatever else, but its usage should be like "finishers" (at the end of a section) rather than be in between a section.
  2. 00:49:186 (344,346,354,358) - these notes feel like they don't belong there as it feels like you are(or in fact you are) mapping two layers (melody and drums) on a very calm part (though I'd probably move 00:50:494 (354) - to 00:50:581 - )
  3. 01:04:883 (471,472,473,474,475) - Make last note be a k, probably a kkddk, as in 01:03:139 (460,465,468) - you used kats (contrasting to the
    dons you used in 01:00:348 (439,444,450,456) - ) so you keep it consistent.
  4. 01:05:930 (479,480,481,482,483,484,485,486,487,488,489,490,491,492,493,494,495,496,497,498,499,500,501,502) - (Suggestion) It may be just me, but this pattern feels a bit weird in the sense the first stream is 100% following melody, then the second kinda blends together with the drums then its practically full drums, all in the single stream of notes on the melody. Decide what are you gonna stick to and go with it, your decision here.
  5. 01:24:854 (610) - this really feels off, as it isn't part of the melody, it isnt the beat made by the drums (it is in 01:24:767 - instead) and really destroys the hold feeling a silence could give to the previous note which fits the hold made by the melody. I'd remove this note and move 01:25:029 (611) - to 01:24:941 - ( also 01:24:680 (608,609) - could get CTRL+G'd, it sounds better that way)
  6. 01:25:639 (616,617,618) - (Suggestion) I don't really like the fact the melody goes high pitched here and you used dons here, just saying...
  7. 01:40:290 (718,719,720,721) - (Gonna mention this 1/6 specifically because though you probably should've get rid of most 1/6 by now as suggested on my first comment, it also is a bit off) The 1/6 snapped sounds in the music starts at 01:40:465 - instead, if you wanna keep this 1/6 consider moving it.
  8. 01:44:825 (756,757,758,759,760,761,762,763,764) - (Suggestion) having a blue stream here isn't really the only choice tbh and probably you would want to keep the blue streams for these 1/6 long streams at the end of the kiai that you also mapped as just 1/4 blue streams.
  9. 03:36:279 (1619) - Remove finisher, the only reason you had to make this a finisher was also present in 03:33:488 (1596) - and you didn't use a finisher there
  10. I guess that's it for this diff, pointed quite a bit of things but I really believe you should start by removing/simplifying 1/6s to keep the diff as a true 5*, as right now I think its really underweighted on SR terms, it has a lot of 6*-ish patterns that you find often even on 7*/8* maps so this really make the map a trap to whoever wants to play a 5* thinking it is on his skill level.
Gonna continue tomorrow, 3:30 here =A=
EDIT: continuation lol

[Oni]
  1. 00:12:906 (69,70) - CTRL+G in these notes for consistency with the previous similar sections and also because it follows better the drums. Also, probably you should add a note in 00:13:604 - as the snare is loud enough
  2. 00:15:348 - ~00:26:162 - This is a nice example of what I felt about this diff, you merge too much the use of drum-following and melody-following, causing some parts to feel like, if somebody thinks he is following drums the map feels undermapped and if following melody it feels overmapped. What I mean by that is, if you followed drums, 00:15:697 (87) - should've been k because you used kats on every other snare of the section, you'd miss a note in 00:19:186 - , 00:21:191 (117) - should've been a k, 00:22:848 (128) - too, 00:23:459 - missing note, etc. If you followed melody, then 00:16:395 (92,95,96,97,102,109,110,111,112,120,133) - are overmapped and you missed a note in 00:22:761 - . This give me a bad taste imo and you should try to keep this switching back and forth to a minimum (whole sections being one or another, not 2 notes being drum then the rest being melody for a while, etc)
  3. 00:50:406 (300,301,302,303) - I'd not use those notes like that I don't think these really follow anything and the pattern itself (as a improvisation for a quite calm part) isn't very representative either, I'd rather go for something like this (first white line is 00:50:232 - ). This also applies for the other similar parts ofc
  4. 01:11:162 - ~ 01:19:534 - same as I mentioned on Knights diff
  5. 01:35:930 - while I was just talking to you to try not to map both drums and melody too often, you also used a note in 01:39:418 (595) - so I think is fine to add here too
[Muzukashii and Futsuu]
  1. to be honest I don't really want to try and do minor pattern changes (which at the end would be just suggestions, likely just to please my taste as it is with most of these) because these maps are okay in that regard, no need to tryhard a few applied points. Instead, I just wanted to mention that the spread is kinda weird from Kantan>Futsuu and from Futsuu>Muzukashii as in Muzu, you use quite a lot of 1/4 tbh and in Futsuu you have a fair amount of blank space, while also Kantan is kind of far from Futsuu in terms of snap usage as you feature a lot of 1/2 snapped notes on Futsuu and none in Kantan, not really sure what is the answer here but its always nice to point out these kind of problems
[Kantan]
  1. I need to say that I'm a bit skeptical about this diff because it follows melody so much that you even have a few weird placed notes as to try to emphasize notes that aren't 1/1 snapped and that really breaks the feeling of this map, so I really recommend you do your Kantan around the general sound of the song or emphasizing specific notes (probably you can quit being afraid of using 1/2 to make those).
  2. Starting at 00:02:093 (2,3,4,5) - , all these notes should be 1/2 earlier, so I really believe you should just use 1/2 snaps there, as very likely is more important to follow the mp3 than having these notes being telegraphed to the players as 1/1 notes
  3. 00:14:651 (16) - move this to 00:14:302 - . If you're afraid of having a 1/1 4-plet so early in the map, just delete 00:13:604 (14) - .
  4. 00:20:581 - ~ 00:25:465 - I think this spot also sounds really weird, I think you'd be pretty much better just switching to drums by doing (starting from 00:20:581 - , 1/1) kkk kdkk k k dk .Again, if you are afraid of the 4-plet, make it kkk kdk kk k dk instead.
  5. 01:12:906 (112,113) - I'd really move these to 01:13:255 - (1/1 later)
  6. 01:45:348 - ~ 01:48:837 - this section is also weird sounding, as you aren't really sticking to anything on 01:46:046 (160) - as the sudden silence is made at 01:45:872 - , so I recommend changing 160 to k and moving it to 01:45:697 - , and adding a k in 01:46:395 - .
  7. 02:57:209 (268,269,270,271,272,273,274,275,276) - wew lad, probably you know why I point this out (In case of not, probably a stream of 9 notes isn't really fitting to the rest of the map even if this is part of a kiai
  8. 03:06:976 (288) - I think this note would work better in 03:06:627 - and probably also adding a note in 03:07:325 - won't hurt either
That's pretty much all I can say about this mapset, good luck with ranking~
Essey6
Hi! From my queue. I took a look at your map and couldn't find any problems C: GL with rank!
Topic Starter
Jaye
Response to Depression

-Kazu- wrote:

Mod requested in queue

[General]
  1. Add the following tags: "HAELEQUIN/HAELEQ∩INZ" (Name of the album the song is from) or just "HAELEQUIN" (prequel of this song), "Comiket 87" (release's event) "C87" (same), "KLAMNOP NEXT" (label the album is under), "NEXT-101" (catalog number), not sure about this but "C-Show" as he did the master for this album
  2. I think you can't use stuff like "~" on the diff name, gotta need confirmation on this one but I think you can't
  3. Right now, only "~Knights of the Round~" has Widescreen Support disabled. Uncheck that box on the other diffs.
  4. Can't really tell if happens on all the diffs (and yeah sorry for being lazy enough not to check them all) but as I can see on Knights diff, notes are unsnapped by 1ms. This is caused by a bug (because I've seen it too many times since I started modding, even on my own maps) so probably you'd want to Timing>Resnap All Notes (but beware as you'll need to manually adjust the 1/6 snapped notes as they will get stacked on 1/4 snaps if you resnap all notes while on 1/4 beat divisor).
Just went and did all of this coz why not.

[~Knights of the Round~]
  1. Very fun map, didn't really want to mod it before fcing but had shitmisses near the end :'(
  2. 01:11:162 - ~ 01:19:534 - I really don't think this section should be all finishers, because definitely there's some notes more loud than others and that isn't really representative on your map, so I'd leave finishers only on 01:11:162 (543,544,552,554,556,557,572,574,575,583,585,587) - . Am considering, your suggestion for what should and should not be a finisher leaves me a little uneasy so I'll conclude myself with some testing.
  3. Nothing else, really. I don't really think going around asking for minor pattern changes is productive as I believe you know what you are doing, so it's okay in that regard.
[Oni]
  1. 00:12:906 (69,70) - CTRL+G in these notes for consistency with the previous similar sections and also because it follows better the drums. Also, probably you should add a note in 00:13:604 - as the snare is loud enough First part done, second part is good but excluded to add a sort of break (this is only an Oni after all, don't want it too dense).
  2. 00:15:348 - ~00:26:162 - This is a nice example of what I felt about this diff, you merge too much the use of drum-following and melody-following, causing some parts to feel like, if somebody thinks he is following drums the map feels undermapped and if following melody it feels overmapped. What I mean by that is, if you followed drums, 00:15:697 (87) - should've been k because you used kats on every other snare of the section, you'd miss a note in 00:19:186 - , 00:21:191 (117) - should've been a k, 00:22:848 (128) - too, 00:23:459 - missing note, etc. If you followed melody, then 00:16:395 (92,95,96,97,102,109,110,111,112,120,133) - are overmapped and you missed a note in 00:22:761 - . This give me a bad taste imo and you should try to keep this switching back and forth to a minimum (whole sections being one or another, not 2 notes being drum then the rest being melody for a while, etc) Like you said, mapping only drums is too little and mapping only melody is too much, so the mixture is nice and covers all bases of the music.
    I did nerf it slightly however.
  3. 00:50:406 (300,301,302,303) - I'd not use those notes like that I don't think these really follow anything and the pattern itself (as a improvisation for a quite calm part) isn't very representative either, I'd rather go for something like this (first white line is 00:50:232 - ). This also applies for the other similar parts ofc Changed mostly as shown.
  4. 01:11:162 - ~ 01:19:534 - same as I mentioned on Knights diff Changed for this diff
  5. 01:35:930 - while I was just talking to you to try not to map both drums and melody too often, you also used a note in 01:39:418 (595) - so I think is fine to add here too Mostly done to just make a break; on a sidenote (not really considered until now) adding the proposed note makes the note in the gap less emphasised.
[Muzukashii and Futsuu]
  1. to be honest I don't really want to try and do minor pattern changes (which at the end would be just suggestions, likely just to please my taste as it is with most of these) because these maps are okay in that regard, no need to tryhard a few applied points. Instead, I just wanted to mention that the spread is kinda weird from Kantan>Futsuu and from Futsuu>Muzukashii as in Muzu, you use quite a lot of 1/4 tbh and in Futsuu you have a fair amount of blank space, while also Kantan is kind of far from Futsuu in terms of snap usage as you feature a lot of 1/2 snapped notes on Futsuu and none in Kantan, not really sure what is the answer here but its always nice to point out these kind of problems I nerfed it, chill.
[Kantan]
  1. I need to say that I'm a bit skeptical about this diff because it follows melody so much that you even have a few weird placed notes as to try to emphasize notes that aren't 1/1 snapped and that really breaks the feeling of this map, so I really recommend you do your Kantan around the general sound of the song or emphasizing specific notes (probably you can quit being afraid of using 1/2 to make those).
  2. Starting at 00:02:093 (2,3,4,5) - , all these notes should be 1/2 earlier, so I really believe you should just use 1/2 snaps there, as very likely is more important to follow the mp3 than having these notes being telegraphed to the players as 1/1 notes Fair, it sounds infinitely better anyway.
  3. 00:14:651 (16) - move this to 00:14:302 - . If you're afraid of having a 1/1 4-plet so early in the map, just delete 00:13:604 (14) - .Pretty much did this + some colour swaps.
  4. 00:20:581 - ~ 00:25:465 - I think this spot also sounds really weird, I think you'd be pretty much better just switching to drums by doing (starting from 00:20:581 - , 1/1) kkk kdkk k k dk .Again, if you are afraid of the 4-plet, make it kkk kdk kk k dk I was so confused by this I just did my own thing
  5. 01:12:906 (112,113) - I'd really move these to 01:13:255 - (1/1 later) yeah aight
  6. 01:45:348 - ~ 01:48:837 - this section is also weird sounding, as you aren't really sticking to anything on 01:46:046 (160) - as the sudden silence is made at 01:45:872 - , so I recommend changing 160 to k and moving it to 01:45:697 - , and adding a k in 01:46:395 - . I did something like this.
  7. 02:57:209 (268,269,270,271,272,273,274,275,276) - wew lad, probably you know why I point this out (In case of not, probably a stream of 9 notes isn't really fitting to the rest of the map even if this is part of a kiai Rip 1/6 stream.
  8. 03:06:976 (288) - I think this note would work better in 03:06:627 - and probably also adding a note in 03:07:325 - won't hurt either edited before reading, more or less changed to this
That's pretty much all I can say about this mapset, good luck with ranking~ cheers my dude
Epsile
hey it's that one guy giving out free mods

i'm only gonna look at the easier diffs because higher diffs are weird when they're like 7* or higher for me

Kantan
00:25:116 (32,33) - This could be kd instead to emphasize the decrease in pitch.
00:54:418 (82) - k for better flow, plus it sounds cooler.
01:15:348 (114,115,116) - Could be kdd instead.
02:14:301 (205,206) - Ctrl + g maybe?
02:32:791 (234,235) - Ctrl + g because of the pitch of the piano.
03:30:697 (328) - D, but I understand if you wanna keep it K.

nice diff

Futsuu
00:09:244 (24) - Here could be k instead.
00:13:604 (36,37,38,39,40,41) - Maybe kkd kdd instead?
00:17:790 (50) - Could be d to better match piano.
01:00:000 (175) - Could definitely be d instead.
02:58:081 (542) - Could be d.
03:21:627 (630,633) - These could both be k.
03:36:279 (679) - This could be d for flow.

i actually really like this futsuu because of how well it flows

Muzukashii
00:04:883 - Could add k in here to follow drums better.
01:10:639 (322,323,324) - Is this for build-up? Because if so, it's probably fine to keep. Only reason to mention this is that muzu's typically don't have p-colored triplets.
02:25:291 (684,685,686) - This could be ddd instead.

I love this muzu. give more plz

gud map
Topic Starter
Jaye
Responding to a drug I've never sold

Epsile wrote:

hey it's that one guy giving out free mods

i'm only gonna look at the easier diffs because higher diffs are weird when they're like 7* or higher for me

Kantan
00:25:116 (32,33) - This could be kd instead to emphasize the decrease in pitch. Good switch
00:54:418 (82) - k for better flow, plus it sounds cooler. It already is a k :eyes: I decided to swap it anyway
01:15:348 (114,115,116) - Could be kdd instead. Sounds aight
02:14:301 (205,206) - Ctrl + g maybe? Good switch
02:32:791 (234,235) - Ctrl + g because of the pitch of the piano. I think it's already going the right way
03:30:697 (328) - D, but I understand if you wanna keep it K. Yeah, the end of the first kiai was also a K, consistency

nice diff

Futsuu
00:09:244 (24) - Here could be k instead. I already think this section is dense so maybe make it a little easier on the player by just repeating the pattern (sounds are practically identically as the patterns before and after anyway)
00:13:604 (36,37,38,39,40,41) - Maybe kkd kdd instead? change to kkd k d 'cause I thought it was too dense with the dkd afterwards
00:17:790 (50) - Could be d to better match piano. '<'b
01:00:000 (175) - Could definitely be d instead. Could be, however I've mapped this sound to k in literally every other difficulty so I think it's fine as it is
02:58:081 (542) - Could be d. And now it is
03:21:627 (630,633) - These could both be k. I did something /shrug
03:36:279 (679) - This could be d for flow. Yup

i actually really like this futsuu because of how well it flows

Muzukashii
00:04:883 - Could add k in here to follow drums better. There was a k there before but since it's just an opening to the map I didn't want it to be too dense
01:10:639 (322,323,324) - Is this for build-up? Because if so, it's probably fine to keep. Only reason to mention this is that muzu's typically don't have p-colored triplets. Yeah pretty much; on my Muzukashii map of Night sky (Extended Mix) I was told that it's fine to use things like this but only in very rare circumstances. I think this is quite appropriate for a build-up.
02:25:291 (684,685,686) - This could be ddd instead. Good catch

I love this muzu. give more plz

gud map Cheers, good suggestions. Thanks man ('w^)b
Zetera
how come I never answered on anything here?

I believe I remapped my diff's kiais substantially at some point after that mod by Kazu, so I don't know whether the issues still apply.
Ladies Night
SECTOR-712
NM request / osu!taiko

general
  1. think you could switch the OD and HP of zetera's inner oni with your highest difficulty so it makes more sense in progression for your difficulty settings on the spread. if you don't feel like switching them, reducing the HP on zetera's inner oni to 5 would work as well.
  2. should fix the base SV on kantan and your highest difficulty through Notepad, since they have decimal values.
  3. you could reduce the hitsound volume for the non-kiai sections to be 90% or 95%, so they better contrast the 100% volume on the kiai parts.
  4. here's the link for the source on the BG, might be able to crop it to 1366 x 768 or something better, instead of the 1024 x 588 you have currently.
kantan
  1. 00:05:930 (6) - should move this back to the red tick at 00:05:755 to stay consistent, since you started the don finisher on the first kick.
  2. 00:36:279 (50) - sounds pretty iffy to play, would move it to the earlier red tick at 00:36:104 to get the correct emphasis.
  3. 00:43:953 - adding a don here to continue the flow would be fine, synths are different than before and this part in the song is pretty active.
  4. 00:45:348 (66) - deleting this note and scooting the note at 00:45:000 (65) over to the red tick, would work much better compared to what you currently have. feel free to try something else if it's not to your suiting.
  5. 00:53:372 (79) - remove this note, to be consistent with the structure you've used for your earlier 1/2 patterning at 00:49:883 (74,75,76,77) and later on at 00:55:465 (83,84,85,86) unless you have a reason for breaking it.
  6. 00:57:209 (86) - think this warrants a finisher for the loud and continuous drums here, could also make 00:58:604 (88) a finisher since they're similar. would check the other difficulties and see if it would fit the mapping for those as well.
  7. 01:03:837 - adding a note here would be okay for the drum/synth sound.
  8. 01:08:023 - think this synth here is pretty prominent, might be able to move the note at 01:06:976 (101) to this timestamp and make this a 4-plet pattern.
  9. 01:13:255 (111,112) - moving these two notes one tick back and changing the don finisher to a regular note, should be more in line with the kicks.
  10. 01:16:046 (116) - same deal with the suggestion above for this note but in the inverse way, move it one tick forward and etc.
  11. 01:33:313 - red tick emphasis for the kick, should delete one the kats and move it to this timestamp, happens at 02:54:244 also.
  12. 01:33:488 / 02:06:976 - first half of the kiai here feels a bit lacking compared to the parts before it, i think you could add some more notes in.
futsuu
  1. 00:03:837 (5) - changing this to a don for the drums here would better represent it, since it contrasts with the kat on the synths.
  2. 00:24:069 - should map this piano note, since it seems to be the main focus for the mapping here.
  3. 01:11:162 / 01:27:906 - between these two timestamps, there's a bit too many finishers that it kinda loses the emphasis i feel. could turn some into regular notes. muzukashii and above is fine but with this difficulty, they stand out more with the less dense rhythm used in the lower difficulties.
  4. 01:32:441 (272) - could change this to a kat to represent that synth, same deal at 01:32:790 (273,274) but you can just CTRL+G them.
  5. 02:05:581 (395,396,397,398,399,400,401) - one too many notes even for a climax on the kiai section, delete the note at 02:05:756 (396) if you wanna keep the hard pattern and it being more reasonable for this difficulty range. happens at 03:26:685 (646) and 03:29:476 (659) if you're applying this.
  6. 02:21:452 (432) - would make this a kat, since the piano sounds a bit different here also noticed this object was unsnapped by +1ms, might wanna check this difficulty and the others if this bothers ya.
  7. 02:48:662 - pretty dense for a buildup on this difficulty, intentional i'm guessing?
muzukashii
  1. 00:14:127 - SV changes are fine within this context since they're not drastically variable, but i feel it would be better if they were regular SV changes instead of smooth ones. think you could save that for the oni difficulty. 02:17:093 - here as well yo.
  2. 01:43:895 - could rework the SV changes here so the transition is a bit better, applies throughout the first one and the other kiai also.
  3. 03:10:726 (909,910) - might throw players off when playing since the flow in rhythm is kinda interrupted, since you followed something different.
oni
  1. 00:39:418 (235,236,237,238,239) - k,k,d,d,d might work as well, would be the opposite of the later pattern at 00:44:825 (269,270,271,272,273)
  2. 00:47:790 (285,286,287,288,289) - would try k,k,d,d,k or d,k,k,d,k since they capture the synths much better.
  3. 01:13:255 (443,444) and 01:18:837 (471,472) - not so sure with this pattern on this difficulty, think it's suited for the highest difficulty only.
  4. 01:49:709 (670,671) - you could try moving these notes over one tick to make it doubles instead. since it doesn't seem too intuitive to play as of right now.
  5. 02:03:924 - adding a don here for the 4-plet pattern works well with the piano.
  6. 02:51:453 (1035) - making this a finisher would be a good contrast between the earlier notes and it'd separate that section from the buildup part.
zetera's -reality jester- inner oni
  1. 00:16:569 (87) - changing this to a kat would get a better contrast for the note at 00:16:744 (88) i feel.
  2. 00:38:546 (256) - pitch here is a bit different, switching it to a kat for the sound would work.
  3. 01:16:220 (551) - finisher instead to separate when it repeats the melody is a nice idea you could try.
  4. 01:19:534 (569) - synth is pretty loud, feel more intuitive if it was a kat to show that.
  5. 01:45:697 (761) - making this a kat would mask the snares in the background pretty well.
  6. 01:51:279 (800) - change this to a kat, for the synths and snare.
  7. 02:54:244 - kiai should start on the large white tick to be consistent with the previous kiai and and the mapset as well, despite it sounding somewhat different.
  8. 03:10:988 (1383) - finisher here is a bit strange in the context of this section, doesn't really warrant being a finisher since there's not a lot of prominent sounds here compared to earlier and later on.
  9. 03:47:354 - has no effect on anything really, but i think you could have the spinner-end be at the blue tick like the rest of mapset for consistency sake.
knights of the round
  1. 00:13:430 (81,82,83,84) - think the doubles here should be starting at 00:13:255 might have a better effect.
  2. 00:37:325 (265,266,267,268,269,270,271) - what you have currently is fine, but you could try k,d,d,k,d,d,k.
  3. 01:47:093 - extra note for the drum roll here and 03:08:023 as well.
i'd imagine it's gonna be a pain to respond to this in moddingv1, good luck with the mapset nonetheless.
Topic Starter
Jaye
Finally responded to Sansheng's mod

Sansheng wrote:

SECTOR-712
NM request / osu!taiko

general
  1. think you could switch the OD and HP of zetera's inner oni with your highest difficulty so it makes more sense in progression for your difficulty settings on the spread. if you don't feel like switching them, reducing the HP on zetera's inner oni to 5 would work as well. Will let him deal with this.
  2. should fix the base SV on kantan and your highest difficulty through Notepad, since they have decimal values. Done
  3. you could reduce the hitsound volume for the non-kiai sections to be 90% or 95%, so they better contrast the 100% volume on the kiai parts. Done; 95% coz the whole song is intense tbh
  4. here's the link for the source on the BG, might be able to crop it to 1366 x 768 or something better, instead of the 1024 x 588 you have currently. Does this really matter? Has it ever mattered?
kantan
  1. 00:05:930 (6) - should move this back to the red tick at 00:05:755 to stay consistent, since you started the don finisher on the first kick. Done
  2. 00:36:279 (50) - sounds pretty iffy to play, would move it to the earlier red tick at 00:36:104 to get the correct emphasis. Done
  3. 00:43:953 - adding a don here to continue the flow would be fine, synths are different than before and this part in the song is pretty active. Sounds alright, though I was aiming for a break but it doesn't really matter.
  4. 00:45:348 (66) - deleting this note and scooting the note at 00:45:000 (65) over to the red tick, would work much better compared to what you currently have. feel free to try something else if it's not to your suiting. Done, and made it d k instead of k d to show the rise.
  5. 00:53:372 (79) - remove this note, to be consistent with the structure you've used for your earlier 1/2 patterning at 00:49:883 (74,75,76,77) and later on at 00:55:465 (83,84,85,86) unless you have a reason for breaking it. Yeah I have a reason, the bg rhythm differs here so I just wanted it to stand out a bit.
  6. 00:57:209 (86) - think this warrants a finisher for the loud and continuous drums here, could also make 00:58:604 (88) a finisher since they're similar. would check the other difficulties and see if it would fit the mapping for those as well. Already a finisher on Zet's diff so I did some stuff to make it consistent.
  7. 01:03:837 - adding a note here would be okay for the drum/synth sound. Sounds good
  8. 01:08:023 - think this synth here is pretty prominent, might be able to move the note at 01:06:976 (101) to this timestamp and make this a 4-plet pattern. I did something here but it wasn't what you suggested.
  9. 01:13:255 (111,112) - moving these two notes one tick back and changing the don finisher to a regular note, should be more in line with the kicks. I think I just nutted. + next note changed to don.
  10. 01:16:046 (116) - same deal with the suggestion above for this note but in the inverse way, move it one tick forward and etc. I did something here.
  11. 01:33:313 - red tick emphasis for the kick, should delete one the kats and move it to this timestamp, happens at 02:54:244 also. Indeed
  12. 01:33:488 / 02:06:976 - first half of the kiai here feels a bit lacking compared to the parts before it, i think you could add some more notes in. Fair
futsuu
  1. 00:03:837 (5) - changing this to a don for the drums here would better represent it, since it contrasts with the kat on the synths. It just sounds better
  2. 00:24:069 - should map this piano note, since it seems to be the main focus for the mapping here. Added a kat, surrounding notes changed from kat to don
  3. 01:11:162 / 01:27:906 - between these two timestamps, there's a bit too many finishers that it kinda loses the emphasis i feel. could turn some into regular notes. muzukashii and above is fine but with this difficulty, they stand out more with the less dense rhythm used in the lower difficulties. I did a thing?
  4. 01:32:441 (272) - could change this to a kat to represent that synth, same deal at 01:32:790 (273,274) but you can just CTRL+G them. Did them both anyway
  5. 02:05:581 (395,396,397,398,399,400,401) - one too many notes even for a climax on the kiai section, delete the note at 02:05:756 (396) if you wanna keep the hard pattern and it being more reasonable for this difficulty range. happens at 03:26:685 (646) and 03:29:476 (659) if you're applying this. Is this really too hard? Done anyway to be safe
  6. 02:21:452 (432) - would make this a kat, since the piano sounds a bit different here also noticed this object was unsnapped by +1ms, might wanna check this difficulty and the others if this bothers ya. Aight
  7. 02:48:662 - pretty dense for a buildup on this difficulty, intentional i'm guessing? I nuked a note somewhere
muzukashii
  1. 00:14:127 - SV changes are fine within this context since they're not drastically variable, but i feel it would be better if they were regular SV changes instead of smooth ones. think you could save that for the oni difficulty. 02:17:093 - here as well yo. Not particularly sure how to do this without it looking choppy and ugly so I'll leave it to another modder if it's really important
  2. 01:43:895 - could rework the SV changes here so the transition is a bit better, applies throughout the first one and the other kiai also. Yeah this is pre ugly; fixed
  3. 03:10:726 (909,910) - might throw players off when playing since the flow in rhythm is kinda interrupted, since you followed something different. Pattern structure is near-identical to this section in the first kiai and I see no issue with either tbh
oni
  1. 00:39:418 (235,236,237,238,239) - k,k,d,d,d might work as well, would be the opposite of the later pattern at 00:44:825 (269,270,271,272,273) Sure I guess, I don't think it makes much of a difference. The symmetry is pre cool tho
  2. 00:47:790 (285,286,287,288,289) - would try k,k,d,d,k or d,k,k,d,k since they capture the synths much better. Haha yeah before I read this I had already changed it to dkkdk
  3. 01:13:255 (443,444) and 01:18:837 (471,472) - not so sure with this pattern on this difficulty, think it's suited for the highest difficulty only. Before reading this I decided to nerf it
  4. 01:49:709 (670,671) - you could try moving these notes over one tick to make it doubles instead. since it doesn't seem too intuitive to play as of right now. Sure I guess?? Applied to second kiai too
  5. 02:03:924 - adding a don here for the 4-plet pattern works well with the piano. And plays pre weirdly + is probably too dense so I'll give it a miss; would work better as a 5-plet but again, too dense
  6. 02:51:453 (1035) - making this a finisher would be a good contrast between the earlier notes and it'd separate that section from the buildup part. Applied pre much to all diffs
knights of the round
  1. 00:13:430 (81,82,83,84) - think the doubles here should be starting at 00:13:255 might have a better effect. Did some edits but not what was suggested here
  2. 00:37:325 (265,266,267,268,269,270,271) - what you have currently is fine, but you could try k,d,d,k,d,d,k. This pattern is a big nono; fuck pp, I'm here for fun B^)
  3. 01:47:093 - extra note for the drum roll here and 03:08:023 as well. Yeah I'll add these
i'd imagine it's gonna be a pain to respond to this in moddingv1, good luck with the mapset nonetheless.
Geez that took a while; thanks a bunch for the mod (was great)
Zetera
zetera's -reality jester- inner oni
  1. 00:16:569 (87) - changing this to a kat would get a better contrast for the note at 00:16:744 (88) i feel.
  2. 00:38:546 (256) - pitch here is a bit different, switching it to a kat for the sound would work.
  3. 01:16:220 (551) - finisher instead to separate when it repeats the melody is a nice idea you could try.
  4. 01:19:534 (569) - synth is pretty loud, feel more intuitive if it was a kat to show that. Also made a finisher out of that one.
  5. 01:45:697 (761) - making this a kat would mask the snares in the background pretty well.
  6. 01:51:279 (800) - change this to a kat, for the synths and snare.
  7. 02:54:244 - kiai should start on the large white tick to be consistent with the previous kiai and and the mapset as well, despite it sounding somewhat different.
  8. 03:10:988 (1383) - finisher here is a bit strange in the context of this section, doesn't really warrant being a finisher since there's not a lot of prominent sounds here compared to earlier and later on. I additionally added a k to make a kkdkk d dropoff.
  9. 03:47:354 - has no effect on anything really, but i think you could have the spinner-end be at the blue tick like the rest of mapset for consistency sake.
Fixed all of these, thank you!

all my marbles
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Axer
From my modding q like 2 months late.

Knights of the Round


02:20:494 - you might want to add a d here to stay consistent with 02:23:110 - this one

02:33:750 - why did you cut the pattern in the best part ;;, I suppose you mapped it to the piano so why not make it a long stream?

02:39:767 - I don't know if you're trying to map piano as accurately as possible but if you are then you should probably put a kddk (1/6) here

03:31:482 - why is this d? it's not descending in pitch, so shouldn't this be a k?

03:34:272 - ^

03:37:063 - ^


GOOD MAP PLEASE RANK OR I'LL GO GAMER MODE.
Topic Starter
Jaye
Le response to Axer that is inconsistent in formatting compared to previous mods

Axer wrote:

From my modding q like 2 months late.

Knights of the Round
02:20:494 - you might want to add a d here to stay consistent with 02:23:110 - this one Yeah there's a sound here I should've mapped.

02:33:750 - why did you cut the pattern in the best part ;;, I suppose you mapped it to the piano so why not make it a long stream? No long stream, but I did make this more intense because the music calls for it.

02:39:767 - I don't know if you're trying to map piano as accurately as possible but if you are then you should probably put a kddk (1/6) here Fair enough; for future queries, the 1/6 is only added here, and not the first section (second section is just first section but harder pre much).

03:31:482 - why is this d? it's not descending in pitch, so shouldn't this be a k? Changed in previous section too.

03:34:272 - ^ Aight for future reference, I changed all of the dk d dk into kd k dk,

03:37:063 - ^ ^

GOOD MAP PLEASE RANK OR I'LL GO GAMER MODE.
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