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sky_delta VS lapix - NEXT LEVEL [Taiko]

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MMzz
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Wednesday, June 28, 2017 at 11:51:42 AM

Artist: sky_delta VS lapix
Title: NEXT LEVEL
Tags: CORE Signal
BPM: 160
Filesize: 7815kb
Play Time: 05:07
Difficulties Available:
  1. Inner Oni (6.59 stars, 2179 notes)
Download: sky_delta VS lapix - NEXT LEVEL
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Thanks to Nofool, OzzyOzrock, Arrival.
Sync
...what was the inspiration for the brown skinned peeing lady in the storyboard?

offset: +16

edit: can a BAT give me my rightfully earned kudosu? the creator of the map refuses to comply despite a lengthy IRC mod and an additional timing check. i can assure you that i will not work with this mapper again. *thumbs down* for MMzz.
KinomiCandy
stfu sync
Nofool
wops im late... im not the only tho 8-)

[Inner Oni]

* - 00:03:140 (10) – i think it plays cooler if you remove thise and change - 00:03:233 (11) – to k, emphasizes more the melody.

* - 00:12:890 – what about a slider from here to - 00:13:640 -? that would support well the sound starting at - 00:12:327 (21) -, also idk I just like how it would play again.

* - 00:29:483 (30) – d instead of k? just another option, both ways play alright to me.

* - 00:33:140 (11,12) – swap colors? k k k D easier to handle but the other big note also sounds good as K tbh.

* - 00:40:452 (57) – k instead of d? k sounds alright and at the end u got one less ddk in a row. Then the following part until the long stream seems kinda lame tbh, many copy pasted patterns while the song provides actual interesting melodies. Just an example, - 00:42:608 - / - 00:45:608 - / - 00:48:608 – you miss those beats that are very noticeable in the song.So yeah i think you could proly do something a bit interesting there (and just by following more the song’s melody and not only using 3-plets/5-plets).

* - 01:08:202 (126) – feels kinda weird to not use a finisher there since you don’t hold back that much on that. So to cover this another way, what about removing - 01:07:733 (121) -, adding k at - 01:08:296 – and swaping - 01:08:108 (125,126) – ‘s colors? The result plays good imo.

* - 01:13:827 – k? or maybe remove some notes on the previous pattern? I see what you’r following there but the kddkd kinda loses it.

* - 02:19:452 (14,15,16) – might be better as kddk 1/6? that would be the correct snapping regarding how you use 1/6 there (also this is easier to play kek), as you pref tho.

* - 02:38:858 (140,141) – swap colors? sounds more like it.

* - 02:41:952 (18) – k instead of d? ^, also for varation, there’s been many dkddk on that part.

* - 03:00:515 - / - 03:01:452 – no d at those spots? I guess you wanna make it not too dense since it’s the beginning of the part but eh idk, looks kinda weird.

* - 03:23:483 (30) - / 03:27:140 (11,12) – same thing i said about those spots at around 30sec.

* - 03:39:327 (114,115,116,117) – maybe make this a full 1/8? => kkkkd instead of kkk d, the sounds it follows last until the d so yeah... also it’s easier to play for me kek.

* - 03:58:171 – pretty sad to always miss that beat, id have reworked a bit the patterns around to not miss those.

* - 04:11:483 – add k? same reason as above, sounds sad to break there as this is clearly different from another spot like - 04:12:702 (111,112,113,114) – which is mapped the same way.

* - 04:19:358 (37) – d instead of k? => dd dk dd dk, plays better to me.

* - 04:38:202 (44) – same thing I said about a similar spot at the beginning.
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aight thats it, awesome map man gl
Topic Starter
MMzz

Nofool wrote:

wops im late... im not the only tho 8-)

[Inner Oni]

* - 00:03:140 (10) – i think it plays cooler if you remove thise and change - 00:03:233 (11) – to k, emphasizes more the melody. I feel like my current pattern represents the melody and beat pretty nicely already.

* - 00:12:890 – what about a slider from here to - 00:13:640 -? that would support well the sound starting at - 00:12:327 (21) -, also idk I just like how it would play again. To me it would feel inconsistent with the other long held notes in this section of the music so i'll pass.

* - 00:29:483 (30) – d instead of k? just another option, both ways play alright to me. Kept the same

* - 00:33:140 (11,12) – swap colors? k k k D easier to handle but the other big note also sounds good as K tbh. I feel like the BPM is slow enough for the single jackhammer to be alright. Plus it fits the music and pattern perfectly, imo.

* - 00:40:452 (57) – k instead of d? k sounds alright and at the end u got one less ddk in a row. Then the following part until the long stream seems kinda lame tbh, many copy pasted patterns while the song provides actual interesting melodies. Just an example, - 00:42:608 - / - 00:45:608 - / - 00:48:608 – you miss those beats that are very noticeable in the song.So yeah i think you could proly do something a bit interesting there (and just by following more the song’s melody and not only using 3-plets/5-plets). I changed the first triplet you pointed out. While I do sort of agree with you on how this section could be a little more interesting I feel like going beyond what I have would be a little overmapped. The current structure of the patterns is a mix of the light melody in the background along with the increasingly heavy kicks. It could get a little repetitive but I would rather have a solid rhythm than something that feels out of place to me. (trust me I spent a decent amount of time trying to figure out this section, but if you have some more in depth examples send them my way)

* - 01:08:202 (126) – feels kinda weird to not use a finisher there since you don’t hold back that much on that. So to cover this another way, what about removing - 01:07:733 (121) -, adding k at - 01:08:296 – and swaping - 01:08:108 (125,126) – ‘s colors? The result plays good imo. Doesn't seem like a finisher would really fit here and I like the rhythm I have in place so I'll keep it the same

* - 01:13:827 – k? or maybe remove some notes on the previous pattern? I see what you’r following there but the kddkd kinda loses it. Rather end the pattern there to emphasize the sudden stop in the beat. Going past it feels a little overmapped.

* - 02:19:452 (14,15,16) – might be better as kddk 1/6? that would be the correct snapping regarding how you use 1/6 there (also this is easier to play kek), as you pref tho. Added

* - 02:38:858 (140,141) – swap colors? sounds more like it. Added

* - 02:41:952 (18) – k instead of d? ^, also for varation, there’s been many dkddk on that part. kkddk doesnt seem to fit very well the dkd and dkddk patterns in the section. Feels out of place.

* - 03:00:515 - / - 03:01:452 – no d at those spots? I guess you wanna make it not too dense since it’s the beginning of the part but eh idk, looks kinda weird. Would feel a little too dense for this section imo.

* - 03:23:483 (30) - / 03:27:140 (11,12) – same thing i said about those spots at around 30sec. -
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* - 03:39:327 (114,115,116,117) – maybe make this a full 1/8? => kkkkd instead of kkk d, the sounds it follows last until the d so yeah... also it’s easier to play for me kek. It would make the stream a little less complicated, but then that 1/8 is going to be inconsistent with all the others I have mapped.

* - 03:58:171 – pretty sad to always miss that beat, id have reworked a bit the patterns around to not miss those. I've experimented with it and for me having the gap works better for the overall rhythm of the section. Having the stream be even longer just feels a little less impact to me and more spammy.

* - 04:11:483 – add k? same reason as above, sounds sad to break there as this is clearly different from another spot like - 04:12:702 (111,112,113,114) – which is mapped the same way. Added

* - 04:19:358 (37) – d instead of k? => dd dk dd dk, plays better to me. Added

* - 04:38:202 (44) – same thing I said about a similar spot at the beginning. -
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aight thats it, awesome map man gl
Thanks for the mod! (I'll mod your map soon don't worry)
OzzyOzrock
[Master]
  1. 00:20:952 (15) - k? lol... it fit the drum,, and stops 2 d k d :)
  2. 00:50:671 - So the music kinda does a finishing wrap up here, maybe add a note to emphasize it? Or do you think that'd take away some emphasis from the next part?
  3. 03:54:515 - A bit faster? I don't feel the emphasis in 1.40 to 1.50, to me it just looked like two spinners. Faster would be a nice effect.
  4. 04:57:515 - Volume drop to 60%? I don't even like volume lowering and still think it's loud at 70.
MM'S EASY?
Topic Starter
MMzz

OzzyOzrock wrote:

[Master]
  1. 00:20:952 (15) - k? lol... it fit the drum,, and stops 2 d k d :)
  2. 00:50:671 - So the music kinda does a finishing wrap up here, maybe add a note to emphasize it? Or do you think that'd take away some emphasis from the next part?
  3. 03:54:515 - A bit faster? I don't feel the emphasis in 1.40 to 1.50, to me it just looked like two spinners. Faster would be a nice effect.
  4. 04:57:515 - Volume drop to 60%? I don't even like volume lowering and still think it's loud at 70.
MM'S EASY?
Applied everything.
OzzyOzrock
Bubbled!
Monstrata
I don't know if the metadata is correct. Should be this I think:

Artist: lapix
Title: NEXT LEVEL (sky_delta VS lapix)

According to these sources:

http://megarex.jp/mrx-012.html
https://diverse.direct/megarex/mrx-012/

Artist field is just lapix since all the tracks are by lapix and the ones with featured artists are usually shown through the title instead.

Was planning to map this song at some point, lol. Fun song :D.
Topic Starter
MMzz
I believe they are presented that way just to show who is featured on the the track.

Lapix's Soundcloud/RemyWiki/Discogs have it displayed the way it shows on the actual album.
https://soundcloud.com/lapixmusic/lapix ... -crossfade
https://remywiki.com/CORE_Signal
https://www.discogs.com/Lapix-Core-Sign ... e/10210877
Monstrata
Do you have a photo of the actual album's tracklist? remywiki and discogs are not official sites, and soundcloud doesn't really say anything :P

The megarex.jp site i listed is official, and lapix's official social media also links to that site.
Topic Starter
MMzz
TANO*C also has the album listed with this format and would be considered "official" because this link is next to diverse system's on the megarex page. So i would assume this is just a matter of presentation on the site because of rhe flashy graphics.
http://www.tanocstore.net/shopdetail/00 ... pc_detail/

I wouldn't discredit discogs or remywiki in this regard. They both are known to catalog albums correctly. (Especially remywiki in terms of bemani artist)

Either way I'll leave it up to staff to decide.
IamKwaN
Soundcloud shows sky_delta VS lapix - NEXT LEVEL, so it should be fine.

Arrival
Hey there

01:06:890 (112,113,114,115,116) - Considering the song and the emphasises youre making i'd suggest starting with kddkd instead of ddkkd which imo feels a bit off compared to the rest of the stream.
01:12:702 (165,166,167,168,169,170) - I'd suggest a kdkkdk here to avoid repeating too many times a d note plus I actually believe it its a bit better flow wise
02:27:327 (48,49,50) - Maybe swap colours for these 3 notes for me it feels better pitch and flow wise. If you want to keep the k downbeat structure you can also change these two 02:21:515 (1,2) - to D k so you'll get an emphasis every 4 measures with the d downbeat change.
02:34:921 - Maybe add a d here to mark even more with the build up
05:00:515 - Not a big deal but like Ozzy said I too think its even too high lol. I'd drop it a bit more to like 50 at this point, the song has a really low volume

call me back yo

and yeah metadata is 100% good
Topic Starter
MMzz

Arrival wrote:

Hey there

01:06:890 (112,113,114,115,116) - Considering the song and the emphasises youre making i'd suggest starting with kddkd instead of ddkkd which imo feels a bit off compared to the rest of the stream. I don't like the overall flow of this pattern. Doesn't fit very well with the surrounding ones.
01:12:702 (165,166,167,168,169,170) - I'd suggest a kdkkdk here to avoid repeating too many times a d note plus I actually believe it its a bit better flow wise Made it kdkdkk because that matches the rhythm more.
02:27:327 (48,49,50) - Maybe swap colours for these 3 notes for me it feels better pitch and flow wise. If you want to keep the k downbeat structure you can also change these two 02:21:515 (1,2) - to D k so you'll get an emphasis every 4 measures with the d downbeat change. Seems like either pattern structure is fine but I would like to stick with what I have.
02:34:921 - Maybe add a d here to mark even more with the build up Doesn't feel like a necessary note to add imo.
05:00:515 - Not a big deal but like Ozzy said I too think its even too high lol. I'd drop it a bit more to like 50 at this point, the song has a really low volume Done.

call me back yo

and yeah metadata is 100% good
Thanks for the mod!

I also changed the end bit of this stream 03:44:390 (166,167,168,169,170,171,172,173,174,175) - because i felt like the 1/8th into an offbeat pattern didn't really fit well.
Arrival
godlike map congratz !
Nardoxyribonucleic
That was fast. Congratulations MMzz!
Akemi_Homura
OMG.. congratz~ MMzz~! :)
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