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Wake Up, Girls! - Koi? de Ai? de Boukun desu! [Taiko]

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IControl
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Saturday, September 09, 2017 at 5:42:45 PM

Artist: Wake Up, Girls!
Title: Koi? de Ai? de Boukun desu!
Source: 恋愛暴君
Tags: Renai Boukun, Love Tyrant xfraczynho
BPM: 196
Filesize: 6718kb
Play Time: 03:55
Difficulties Available:
  1. Futsuu (2.52 stars, 501 notes)
  2. Kantan (1.55 stars, 214 notes)
  3. Muzukashii (3.18 stars, 882 notes)
  4. Oni (4.19 stars, 1183 notes)
  5. xfrac's Inner Oni (5.5 stars, 1718 notes)
Download: Wake Up, Girls! - Koi? de Ai? de Boukun desu!
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Going for rank

Thank you xfraczynho for the gd

mods
Nyan

Raphalge

davidminh0111

zigizigiefe

gaston_2199

frukoyurdakul

Igor Sprite

Blackener

Thanks
Nyan
[General]

Title : 恋?で愛?で暴君です!
Romanised Title : Koi? de Ai? de Boukun desu!
Source : 恋愛暴君
Tags : Renai Boukun, Love Tyrant

[Futsuu]

01:08:773 (22,23) - add Finish
01:16:120 (41) - add Finish
01:17:344 (43) - add Finish
02:05:100 (23,24) - add Finish
02:12:447 (44) - add Finish
02:13:671 (46) - add Finish
03:24:079 (22,23) - add Finish
03:31:426 (43) - add Finish
03:32:650 (45) - add Finish
03:41:222 (64) - add Finish

[Muzukashii]

00:37:395 (34) - move to 00:37:242
01:08:773 (33,34,35) - add Finish
02:05:099 (37,38,39) - add Finish
02:32:650 - add a don
02:33:875 - add a don
03:24:078 (36,37,38) - add Finish
03:38:773 (102) - add Finish

[Oni]

01:22:855 - add a note no matter don or kat
01:27:446 - add a kat
01:38:698 (72) - snap this.
02:20:865 - add a don
Topic Starter
IControl
@Nyan all changed :)

Thanks~
Raphalge
this whole "love note" thing is pretty unethical, don't you think?

[General]
low HP drain on the easier diffs? I don't think people need HP3 for 216 notes

[Oni]
00:24:079 (82) - change to k and change 00:24:385 (84) - to d? Feels boring to repeat the same pattern you used at 00:21:171 (65) - and would give the following finisher some more impact

00:26:069 (93) - change this string to d k k d d k? feels like it follows the vocals better (it sounds like your going for vocal mapping on these singletaps idk i could be wrong)

00:36:477 - add a note here? idk it just feels inconsistent with what you've used so far.

01:08:773 (35) - aaaaa, these doubles are really my only gripe with this diff, I get why you put them there but they felt really awkward to play :o wouldn't they work better as finishers? same comment would go for most of the 1/4 doubles in the map :S

01:32:804 - same thing as 00:36:477 -

02:36:936 (1) - REEEEE why is the guitar solo so sparsely mapped? it's the most intese part of the song :^( i totally didnt try mapping it myself
Topic Starter
IControl
@Raphalge

I changed most of your suggestions expect for the 1/4 doubles at kai time. I didn't find the awkward to play but i will consider changing it later if it comes up in another mod. Thanks for the help! Especially at the guitar solo part
Aisha
Hi Control! There's my GD

xfrac's Inner Oni
http://puu.sh/wHi4f/b7e4a73557.osu

GL ~ hope you like it :d. It's just a bit overrated cuz 1/8 but just little
davidminh0111
Hello IControl, from my queue:

[Kantan]
Fine Kantan

[Futsuu]
00:10:763: Move this to 00:11:222 then change to d
00:12:446: Better with kdk
00:15:661: Move this to 00:16:120 Would recommend you to follow the vocal of the music in Futsuu

[Muzukashii]
02:32:650 and 02:33:875: Delete to emphasize better
03:08:773: Change to k to fit the pitch
03:21:324: Delete?

[Oni]
00:07:395: Remove this triplet and then leave a note at 00:07:548
00:33:110: Delete?
00:37:242: Add a note?
01:25:380: Add a note?


Sorry for short mod but your map is good, I can't mod xfrac's Inner Oni because I can't over 5.5
GL on ranking. Hope I could help
Topic Starter
IControl
@david

for futsuu i only changed 00:12:446 k d k because it followed the vocals and insturments. I don't think following the vocal music in futsuu would be a good idea because some parts of the vocal are very hard for futsuu players. Also the emphasis on the inturments in this song overpower the vocals as you can see in some parts in kai time.

muzukashii I thought some of the suggestions didn't line up with my mapping structure from previous patterns and didn't really flow in the map. I did change that one note to k tho

Oni Same as muzukashii expect that it was following more of the vocals instead of the insturments which i don't want my map to be like. I added a note at 01:25:380

Thanks for the mod. It helped :)
zigizigiefe
M4M~
Sorry for late.

Spread Issue:
Notes:
Kantan->196
Futsuu->491 (+295)
Muzukashii->915 (+424)
Oni->1201 (+286)
Inner Oni->1723 (+522, it's not an issue since there may be bigger gap between the highest diff and prev. diff)

As I pointed out, Muzukashii is consecutively-mapped, please nerf.

General
*03:16:732 - Add a timing point, main beats are in 3rd beat of the measure. If you do it, this issue will be fixed.

Kantan
*00:04:793 (3,4) - Remove finishers for pattern simplicity.
*00:06:324 (5,6) - Consider to move to red lines for more accurate way.
Nothing else to say, it has pretty clear structure and looks good.

Futsuu
*00:04:640 (4,5) - Remove finishers for pattern simplicity.
*00:11:069 (5) - How about moving it to 00:11:222 - since there's strong vocal? Apply other parts which have same issue if applied.
*01:21:018 - Why is there pretty big gap?
*01:35:712 - I wonder why density went down, the density of the song doesn't.
*02:17:345 (52,53,54,55) - 02:20:253 (59,60,61) - If I recall correctly, Futsuu and Muzukashii have kats here. I know you used a flow like "ddddd.. *gap* kkkkk.." but it doesn't fit for here.

Muzukashii
*There is not properly 2/1 spacing, I think it's consecutively-mapped.
*00:48:416 (84,85,86) - I think kkk is easier than ddd in this flow. Same colors are always easy, aren't these?
*00:51:477 (10) - I didn't hear so strong sound worthy to be added a note at, 03:03:722 (10) - same issue.
*02:26:680 (139,140,141,142) - I suggest dddD due to strong drum.


Oni
*00:10:304 - Why did you ignore snare sound? You also ignored too many vocal sound that should be emphasized.If you're gonna apply, add on other parts which have same issue.
*00:27:600 (101,102,103) - Although vocal has kinda high pitch, it doesn't have pitch as high (or strong) as 00:27:446 (100) -. Also drum and guitar goes calm here, so there's no reason to change it to ddd.
*00:38:773 (51) - I heard snare sound which is pretty strong and should be emphasized imo.
*01:01:426 - Kiai has lower density than rest of the song, so I suggest you to buff here.
*02:58:977 (1) - Leave 1/1 spacing between spinner end and next note so it will be more accurate.


xfrac's Inner Oni
*00:21:783 (1,1,1,1) - 00:24:232 (1,1,1,1) - Highlighting clap sounds by using 1/8 doublet is kinda awkward for here. Finisher better imo, 00:26:681 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - same issue and apply on others for consistency.
*00:36:936 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - It's kinda weird. Vocal sound at 00:37:089 (1) - is stronger than 00:37:242 (1) -, so try with kdkkddddk or kdkkddd k.
*00:39:232 (1) - There is no sound.
*01:44:819 - Add a note and test. Although there's drum stronger than others but you ignored.
*02:20:253 (1,1) - CTRL+G, vocal goes 3/4. 02:25:151 (1,1) - Same issue.
*02:50:099 - I don't think guitar goes 1/3, just guitarist messed up :"U
*02:58:977 (1) - Just a suggestion, no need to apply. Spinner better due to transition between two parts.
*03:10:457 - Drum pls

That's it I guess, good luck ^^
Topic Starter
IControl

zigizigiefe wrote:

M4M~
Sorry for late.

Spread Issue:
Notes:
Kantan->196
Futsuu->491 (+295)
Muzukashii->915 (+424)
Oni->1201 (+286)
Inner Oni->1723 (+522, it's not an issue since there may be bigger gap between the highest diff and prev. diff)



As I pointed out, Muzukashii is consecutively-mapped, please nerf.

Okay I reduced as many notes from muzukashii as I could while leaving alot more gaps now

General
*03:16:732 - Add a timing point, main beats are in 3rd beat of the measure. If you do it, this issue will be fixed. fixed

Kantan
*00:04:793 (3,4) - Remove finishers for pattern simplicity.
its a simple pattern and I think the fishers are accurate enough to the sounds there
*00:06:324 (5,6) - Consider to move to red lines for more accurate way.
I will wait for an official to tell me to move it

Nothing else to say, it has pretty clear structure and looks good.

Futsuu
*00:04:640 (4,5) - Remove finishers for pattern simplicity.
*00:11:069 (5) - How about moving it to 00:11:222 - since there's strong vocal? Apply other parts which have same issue if applied.
Imo the snares are overpowering the vocals in these parts

*01:21:018 - Why is there pretty big gap?

Fixed

*01:35:712 - I wonder why density went down, the density of the song doesn't.
I added a few more notes

*02:17:345 (52,53,54,55) - 02:20:253 (59,60,61) - If I recall correctly, Futsuu and Muzukashii have kats here. I know you used a flow like "ddddd.. *gap* kkkkk.." but it doesn't fit for here. I tired all dddd and kkkkk and it was a little to boring will consider fixing it if it comes up again

Muzukashii
*There is not properly 2/1 spacing, I think it's consecutively-mapped.
*00:48:416 (84,85,86) - I think kkk is easier than ddd in this flow. Same colors are always easy, aren't these?
fixed
*00:51:477 (10) - I didn't hear so strong sound worthy to be added a note at, 03:03:722 (10) - same issue.
Removed

*02:26:680 (139,140,141,142) - I suggest dddD due to strong drum. Changed


Oni
*00:10:304 - Why did you ignore snare sound? You also ignored too many vocal sound that should be emphasized.If you're gonna apply, add on other parts which have same issue.

Fixed
*00:27:600 (101,102,103) - Although vocal has kinda high pitch, it doesn't have pitch as high (or strong) as 00:27:446 (100) -. Also drum and guitar goes calm here, so there's no reason to change it to ddd.
I changed 1 d at 00:22:548 - parts. I think kkd is fine for flow

*00:38:773 (51) - I heard snare sound which is pretty strong and should be emphasized imo.
i tired to emphasized it with dkd

*01:01:426 - Kiai has lower density than rest of the song, so I suggest you to buff here.
I think the song did that on purpose can't fix that

*02:58:977 (1) - Leave 1/1 spacing between spinner end and next note so it will be more accurate.

Okay

That's it I guess, good luck ^^
Thanks for your awesome mod :)
Aisha

zigizigiefe wrote:

M4M~
Sorry for late.
Hi o/

xfrac's Inner Oni
*00:21:783 (1,1,1,1) - 00:24:232 (1,1,1,1) - Highlighting clap sounds by using 1/8 doublet is kinda awkward for here. Finisher better imo, 00:26:681 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - same issue and apply on others for consistency.
Lol I supposed this was going to be commented so I'll explain it now: I'm focusing this 1/8 since this clap is way dragging after the first note like 00:21:783 - . It has a little tail after this so that's cause I used 1/8 doubles. They're not even hard to read and not that repetitive so I think isn't that overmapped even I did a little to focus it's the highest difficulty.
*00:36:936 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - It's kinda weird. Vocal sound at 00:37:089 (1) - is stronger than 00:37:242 (1) -, so try with kdkkddddk or kdkkddd k.
I made other changes here ^^
*00:39:232 (1) - There is no sound.
Deleted~
*01:44:819 - Add a note and test. Although there's drum stronger than others but you ignored.
I pref using this to focus on next 1/8 doubles. If I add a note it can be a little hard
*02:20:253 (1,1) - CTRL+G, vocal goes 3/4. 02:25:151 (1,1) - Same issue.
Fixed~
*02:50:099 - I don't think guitar goes 1/3, just guitarist messed up :"U
Guitar goes 1/3 D:. You can notice it as using 50% PR
*02:58:977 (1) - Just a suggestion, no need to apply. Spinner better due to transition between two parts.
Nice suggest, isn't even a stream so Spinner is better
*03:10:457 - Drum pls
Added d d
That's it I guess, good luck ^^
Thanks for modding! :)

updeit
http://puu.sh/wSilI/ff2d944d58.osu
gaston_2199
Hi~
Sorry for delay
[ Kantan]
  1. The use of finishers in the beginning is a good idea, but I feel it saturates the sound a lot considering that only this 00:00:202 (1) - have the crash cymbal. This 00:04:793 (3) - also have the crash cymbal, but I think isn't very noticeable. So I suggest remove finisher in 00:02:650 (2,3) -.
  2. 00:02:650 (2) - Probably this is kat for vocal pitch
  3. 00:06:324 (5,6) - This notes fall bad, move both 1 tick 1/2 (00:06:171 - ). I would also apply the first suggestion of remove finishers like this 00:55:304 (8,9) - , since I feel a difficulty of low note density could feel better without much finishers
  4. 00:07:548 (7,8) - You could remove these notes and replace them with a slider, since you might be following the vocal flow.
  5. The notes like 00:09:691 (9) - could removing to follow only the vocal. Instead, I would leave only notes that contain a small cymbal crash like 00:14:589 (7) - . So you can remove 00:09:691 (9,14,14) -, could make more noticeable the change of flow vocal
  6. 00:50:406 (2,3,5,6,8,9) - Same as 00:06:324 (5,6) -, move 1 tick 1/2
  7. 01:04:793 (5) - This note I do not think is necessary, I felt that a rookie player could easily be confused there because he comes very unprepared
  8. 01:05:099 (6,7) - Sound is better if you swap this notes
  9. 01:08:773 (10,11) - These finishers must go in 01:09:997 (12,13) - to cover the noisy part
  10. 01:09:997 (12,13) - Should be kat
  11. 01:12:446 (15,16) - As I said in the first suggestion, there are times that sounds good but in this case saturates the sound imo. Remove
  12. It would not hurt to add notes in 01:13:059 - 01:14:283 - to follow the vocal. I would also remove this note 01:15:355 (18) - to add break.
    Something like this should be
  13. 01:16:120 (19,20) - I would change it to kat for the increased of vocal

    *Start again, apply the accepted suggestions for consistency*
  14. 02:21:324 (24,28,32) - I think you should remove these notes, the tone of the vocal is very low and the kick is not very noticeable.
  15. 02:26:528 (27) - Change to kat? Sounds is better imo
  16. 02:34:487 (37) - Not bad at all, but I think with a spinner could be better follow the guitar
  17. 03:02:650 (2,4,6) - Same as 00:06:324 (5,6) -
  18. 03:16:732 (1) - You should remove it to highlight a lot more 03:17:038 (1) - and make a 'BOOOM' as I would say xD
  19. 03:17:956 (2) - Why not don? Follow the vocal better imo
  20. 03:21:324 (5) - Remove, you know (?
[ Futsuu]
  1. 00:02:191 (2) - Move to 00:02:191 (2) - . Is more comfortable to play...?
  2. 00:04:640 (4,5) - Finisher isn't neccesary imo
  3. 00:07:548 - As Kantan, also you can replace for a slider here
  4. 00:10:457 (2,3,4,5) - Interesting :roll:
  5. 00:40:457 (25) - Notes like this break consistency imo (00:45:967 - )
  6. 00:45:508 (37) - don? to vary like you made on 00:48:263 (42) -
  7. 00:49:181 - ~ 00:54:079 - Should not it be like the beginning? Since they have the same rhythm. In any case you should also follow the vowel in the beginning
  8. 01:06:324 - ~ 01:08:773 - I feel something long the 1/1, you could remove some notes like 01:06:630 (15,19) -
  9. 01:09:997 (24,25,26) - Finisher?
  10. 01:12:446 (30) - ?? Should not be finisher, the sound is not so strong as to add it
  11. 02:07:855 (29,30) - Move to 02:08:314 - like 01:11:987 (28,29) -
  12. 02:08:773 (32) - Same as 01:12:446 (30) -, is too hard play these note
  13. 02:17:344 - ~ 02:34:181 - For someone who can barely play Futsuu, the pace is hard to follow imo, specially in 02: 20: 253 (59,60,61,62,63,64) -. In any case you should consult with a BN or someone more experienced (I'm not lol)
  14. 02:36:936 - ~ 02:53:773 - I would nerf this part, It has patterns and breaks like those of a Muzukashii
  15. 03:26:834 (28,29) - Same reason as 01:11:987 (28,29) -
[ Muzukashii]
  1. 00:02:191 - In Futsuu you added a kat here
  2. 00:10:763 - Same as above, you added a note here. Why not added here?
  3. 00:17:344 (25,26,27) - The triple does not go, in any case you should follow the vocal. Remove 00:17:421 (26) -
  4. 00:19:105 (35) - Same as above, remove
  5. 00:20:712 (41,50,59) - Remove to leave a break for the vocal
  6. 00:30:661 (4,5,6,7) - This is weird, you could follow the vocal here. Move 00:30:967 (5) - to 00:30:814 - and add note here 00:31:120 -
  7. 02:17:344 - ~ 02:34:181 - Here you can follow the vocal moving some notes. Example, move 02:18:875 (102,104) - 1 tick 1/2 (02:18:722 - 02:19:181 - )
  8. 02:38:467 (7,8,9) - This in Futsuu was otherwise and was better. You should check the spread of the notes between the difficulties

As I said, you need check the spread. Some notes are inconsistent between the difficulties.
Anyways is a good mapset and I like the song xD. Star~
Good luck!

Maybe if I'm not lazy, I'll mod Oni and Inner Oni
Topic Starter
IControl

gaston_2199 wrote:

Hi~
Sorry for delay It's okay
[ Kantan]
  1. The use of finishers in the beginning is a good idea, but I feel it saturates the sound a lot considering that only this 00:00:202 (1) - have the crash cymbal. This 00:04:793 (3) - also have the crash cymbal, but I think isn't very noticeable. So I suggest remove finisher in 00:02:650 (2,3) -.

    I'll try this for now but might be changed later
  2. 00:02:650 (2) - Probably this is kat for vocal pitch

    Doesn't sound much higher than 00:00:202 (1) -
  3. 00:06:324 (5,6) - This notes fall bad, move both 1 tick 1/2 (00:06:171 - ). I would also apply the first suggestion of remove finishers like this 00:55:304 (8,9) - , since I feel a difficulty of low note density could feel better without much finishers

    So I'm not moving any 1/2 unless I feel its really necessary. Your not wrong I just don't wanna risk the spread at all.
  4. 00:07:548 (7,8) - You could remove these notes and replace them with a slider, since you might be following the vocal flow.

    Added
  5. The notes like 00:09:691 (9) - could removing to follow only the vocal. Instead, I would leave only notes that contain a small cymbal crash like 00:14:589 (7) - . So you can remove 00:09:691 (9,14,14) -, could make more noticeable the change of flow vocal

    I think it stand out way to much and its not to hard kantan players
  6. 00:50:406 (2,3,5,6,8,9) - Same as 00:06:324 (5,6) -, move 1 tick 1/2
  7. 01:04:793 (5) - This note I do not think is necessary, I felt that a rookie player could easily be confused there because he comes very unprepared

    These suggestions are similllar to the ones above which I explained why i didn't follow them
  8. 01:05:099 (6,7) - Sound is better if you swap this notes

    01:05:099 - This vocal is to high imo.
  9. 01:08:773 (10,11) - These finishers must go in 01:09:997 (12,13) - to cover the noisy part
  10. 01:09:997 (12,13) - Should be kat

    I think the bass really stand out here
  11. 01:12:446 (15,16) - As I said in the first suggestion, there are times that sounds good but in this case saturates the sound imo. Remove
  12. It would not hurt to add notes in 01:13:059 - 01:14:283 - to follow the vocal. I would also remove this note 01:15:355 (18) - to add break.
    Something like this should be

    I think that wouldn't be good for the spread
  13. 01:16:120 (19,20) - I would change it to kat for the increased of vocal

    Bass stands out here again

    *Start again, apply the accepted suggestions for consistency*
  14. 02:21:324 (24,28,32) - I think you should remove these notes, the tone of the vocal is very low and the kick is not very noticeable.

    Good suggestion but i think its necessary to make this part less boring
  15. 02:26:528 (27) - Change to kat? Sounds is better imo

    changed
  16. 02:34:487 (37) - Not bad at all, but I think with a spinner could be better follow the guitar

    I feel like the screeching noise goes better with a slider
  17. 03:02:650 (2,4,6) - Same as 00:06:324 (5,6) -
  18. 03:16:732 (1) - You should remove it to highlight a lot more 03:17:038 (1) - and make a 'BOOOM' as I would say xD

    Removed
  19. 03:17:956 (2) - Why not don? Follow the vocal better imo

    changed to don
  20. 03:21:324 (5) - Remove, you know (?
[ Futsuu]
  1. 00:02:191 (2) - Move to 00:02:191 (2) - . Is more comfortable to play...?

    moved
  2. 00:04:640 (4,5) - Finisher isn't neccesary imo

    Maybe but I think these two sound really strong I wait for someone else to say somethings wrong with it
  3. 00:07:548 - As Kantan, also you can replace for a slider here

    changed
  4. 00:10:457 (2,3,4,5) - Interesting :roll:
  5. 00:40:457 (25) - Notes like this break consistency imo (00:45:967 - )

    Ture but the piano is quite noticeable. Also I think its fun to play
  6. 00:45:508 (37) - don? to vary like you made on 00:48:263 (42) -

    I think d d d k k k flows nicely. Also d k d is there purely for the vocal
  7. 00:49:181 - ~ 00:54:079 - Should not it be like the beginning? Since they have the same rhythm. In any case you should also follow the vowel in the beginning
    They don't sound exactly the same. This part is more intesne imo. I rather a bn check it to make sure
  8. 01:06:324 - ~ 01:08:773 - I feel something long the 1/1, you could remove some notes like 01:06:630 (15,19) -

    It's not too long and I don't use it frequtly through out the map. Also I think Kai time should be a bit harder than the rest of the map
  9. 01:09:997 (24,25,26) - Finisher?

    Probly to hard for futsuu players
  10. 01:12:446 (30) - ?? Should not be finisher, the sound is not so strong as to add it

    Maybe but the vocal is still strong enough imo
  11. 02:07:855 (29,30) - Move to 02:08:314 - like 01:11:987 (28,29) -

    I'm mapping to piano. Also im not sure why you are suggesting that
  12. 02:08:773 (32) - Same as 01:12:446 (30) -, is too hard play these note
  13. 02:17:344 - ~ 02:34:181 - For someone who can barely play Futsuu, the pace is hard to follow imo, specially in 02: 20: 253 (59,60,61,62,63,64) -. In any case you should consult with a BN or someone more experienced (I'm not lol)

    I didn't make the colors to complicated but you're right.
  14. 02:36:936 - ~ 02:53:773 - I would nerf this part, It has patterns and breaks like those of a Muzukashii

    This is the hardest part of the map I think it should be similar to Muzukashii
  15. 03:26:834 (28,29) - Same reason as 01:11:987 (28,29) -
[ Muzukashii]
  1. 00:02:191 - In Futsuu you added a kat here

    Okay so some of the notes are removed for the spread? I think its fair.
  2. 00:10:763 - Same as above, you added a note here. Why not added here?
  3. 00:17:344 (25,26,27) - The triple does not go, in any case you should follow the vocal. Remove 00:17:421 (26) -
  4. 00:19:105 (35) - Same as above, remove

    I think it does follow the and bass if i remove these it doesn't sound right
  5. 00:20:712 (41,50,59) - Remove to leave a break for the vocal

    Not sure why i would want to do that when I'm mapping to the other interments
  6. 00:30:661 (4,5,6,7) - This is weird, you could follow the vocal here. Move 00:30:967 (5) - to 00:30:814 - and add note here 00:31:120 -

    Changed
  7. 02:17:344 - ~ 02:34:181 - Here you can follow the vocal moving some notes. Example, move 02:18:875 (102,104) - 1 tick 1/2 (02:18:722 - 02:19:181 - )
  8. 02:38:467 (7,8,9) - This in Futsuu was otherwise and was better. You should check the spread of the notes between the difficulties

Umm First of all I was mapping to the guitar in Muzkashii because Muzkashii allows for it. Second I don't spread means that each diff has to have the same note placements. For example if I mapped futsuu and muzuashii just to the vocals then it would be very hard to find good placement for triples.
I'm pretty sure spread means that each diff isn't too over mapped and has spacing appropriate for the diff btw.


As I said, you need check the spread. Some notes are inconsistent between the difficulties.
Anyways is a good mapset and I like the song xD. Star~
Good luck!
Thank you for you mod :) and star

Maybe if I'm not lazy, I'll mod Oni and Inner Oni
frukoyurdakul
Hello, M4M.

[xfrac's Inner Oni]

00:02:191 - Please remove this doublet and turn it into finisher. The sounds are singular, and they're not supporting a 1/8 doublet. This suggestion is for every doublet in your map.

00:09:538 (1,1,1) - Overmapped for no reason. There aren't 1/6 sounds, it's only 1/2. kkddk is acceptable but i suggest kkd k.

00:13:365 (1,1) - Ctrl + g for the emphasize on the snare with kat.

00:17:727 (1) - Delete this note, the pattern is too long for the section. It breaks the map's structure. And also, unneccessary.

00:44:283 (1) - Finisher will suit the crash cymbal.

00:49:181 (1) - Put a finisher on it, it's inconsistent with other parts and it has a crash cymbal.

00:59:436 (1,1) - Ctrl + g ? Will fit the vocals.

01:25:456 (1,1,1) - Same situation I mentioned before.

01:33:263 - It will be better to use 5-plet patterns maximum. It fits well in this section but it's the only long pattern which breaks the structure.

01:40:610 (1) - You can put a finisher on it.

01:44:743 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - For this pattern, I think you can follow drums.

02:19:793 (1) - You don't need this finisher, it doesn't support a strong sound.

02:24:691 (1) - ^

02:25:151 (1,1) - Ctrl + g for consistency.

02:26:681 (1) - If you really want to use a 1/8 doublet, this is the spot.

03:01:426 (1) - Finisher will suit with the crash cymbal.

03:16:426 (1,1,1,1) - Instead of 1/6 dddk, I recommend 1/4 kkd for the sake of the drums.

[Oni]

00:59:895 (41) - You can delete the finisher, there is no crash cymbal sound on it like the others.

01:04:640 (16,17,18,19) - Instead of k ddd, I recommend d kdk. Fits perfect with the vocals.

01:08:773 (35,36,37,38,39,40) - Didn't understand the exact reason of these 1/4 doublets. Besides feeling weird, it's also inconsistent. My suggestion would be using 1/1 finishers with the same colors on them. The feeling about the doublets are general for every kiai, so consider them editing all.

01:16:120 (83) - Every beat you have a finisher after the stanza starts, and you missed this one.

01:21:554 (119) - You can delete this one, seems overmapped and off-beat.

01:52:702 - This pattern is inconsistent with 00:56:375 - this even though they have similiar sounds. Make them similiar to keep consistency.

01:56:682 (46,47) - I recommend kat finishers on both of them, to follow the drums better.

02:17:344 - A general suggestion for this section. The drums are pretty fun if you listen to them. For example, you can have a note on 02:18:492 - this, you can shift 02:20:865 (19) - this one 1/4 right, 02:22:701 (28,29) - change this one to kkd etc etc. A nice rhythm will show up in the end.

02:36:936 - Didn't understand the reason of 1/3 pattern usage. I don't hear any 1/3 sounds on it and it feels extremely weird to me. 1/4 pattenrs are fine though.

The rest of them is containing consistency issues with my suggestions above, I beileve you can catch them.

[Muzukashii]

00:35:559 (22,23,24) - Shift these ones 1/2 right, off-beat notes are not quite good for those vocals.

00:48:875 (1) - I can suggest turning this one to don, since the drum sound is low.

01:04:487 - If you change this on Oni diff, change this one to appropriate one also. This applies for the other kiai sections aswell.

01:16:120 (70) - Finisher on this, like in Oni diff.

01:17:344 (75) - ^

01:23:467 (100) - Kat here? You have kat in Oni and it'll support the high drum sound. Applies to Oni as well if you change it.

03:11:222 (33) - Put finishers starting from this note.

03:49:028 (1) - I believe you can have a last spinner on blue tick, since the sound is coming on here.

I kinda can't mod lower diffs, sorry about that ;w; Good luck on the ranking way, I hope my mod helps :^)
Topic Starter
IControl

frukoyurdakul wrote:

Hello, M4M.


[Oni]

00:59:895 (41) - You can delete the finisher, there is no crash cymbal sound on it like the others. Fixed

01:04:640 (16,17,18,19) - Instead of k ddd, I recommend d kdk. Fits perfect with the vocals. I feel like d d kdk is a little to hard to read for oni players. also I feel ddd fits the vocals better

01:08:773 (35,36,37,38,39,40) - Didn't understand the exact reason of these 1/4 doublets. Besides feeling weird, it's also inconsistent. My suggestion would be using 1/1 finishers with the same colors on them. The feeling about the doublets are general for every kiai, so consider them editing all. The vocals and drums echo each other at this part. I feel its appropriate to map here with a double

01:16:120 (83) - Every beat you have a finisher after the stanza starts, and you missed this one. Fixed

01:21:554 (119) - You can delete this one, seems overmapped and off-beat. The bass and drums are echoing at this part to so just like at kai time I feel this is appropriate

01:52:702 - This pattern is inconsistent with 00:56:375 - this even though they have similiar sounds. Make them similiar to keep consistency. They are not one has drums leading into the guitar the other one is just a guitar

01:56:682 (46,47) - I recommend kat finishers on both of them, to follow the drums better. Changed

02:17:344 - A general suggestion for this section. The drums are pretty fun if you listen to them. For example, you can have a note on 02:18:492 - this, you can shift 02:20:865 (19) - this one 1/4 right, 02:22:701 (28,29) - change this one to kkd etc etc. A nice rhythm will show up in the end. Felt to overmapped for an oni and dint like it :(

02:36:936 - Didn't understand the reason of 1/3 pattern usage. I don't hear any 1/3 sounds on it and it feels extremely weird to me. 1/4 pattenrs are fine though. The durms are 100% at a 1/3 beat pattern. check the song at 25%.


The rest of them is containing consistency issues with my suggestions above, I beileve you can catch them.

[Muzukashii]

00:35:559 (22,23,24) - Shift these ones 1/2 right, off-beat notes are not quite good for those vocals. Applied

00:48:875 (1) - I can suggest turning this one to don, since the drum sound is low. changed

01:04:487 - If you change this on Oni diff, change this one to appropriate one also. This applies for the other kiai sections aswell.

01:16:120 (70) - Finisher on this, like in Oni diff.

01:17:344 (75) - ^

added

01:23:467 (100) - Kat here? You have kat in Oni and it'll support the high drum sound. Applies to Oni as well if you change it. Changed

03:11:222 (33) - Put finishers starting from this note. Added

03:49:028 (1) - I believe you can have a last spinner on blue tick, since the sound is coming on here. Fixed on all diffs

I kinda can't mod lower diffs, sorry about that ;w; Good luck on the ranking way, I hope my mod helps :^)
Thanks for the mod it was helpful :)
igorsprite
Mexerica Holandesa ;)
Topic Starter
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Igor Sprite wrote:

Mexerica Holandesa ;)
What does this mean?, and thanks for the stars!
Aisha

frukoyurdakul wrote:

Hello, M4M.

[xfrac's Inner Oni]

00:02:191 - Please remove this doublet and turn it into finisher. The sounds are singular, and they're not supporting a 1/8 doublet. This suggestion is for every doublet in your map.
As I pointed above, I wont remove them for now (same reason)
00:09:538 (1,1,1) - Overmapped for no reason. There aren't 1/6 sounds, it's only 1/2. kkddk is acceptable but i suggest kkd k.
Only deleted one 1/6 note
00:13:365 (1,1) - Ctrl + g for the emphasize on the snare with kat.
Fixed
00:17:727 (1) - Delete this note, the pattern is too long for the section. It breaks the map's structure. And also, unneccessary.
Fixed
00:44:283 (1) - Finisher will suit the crash cymbal.
Fixed
00:49:181 (1) - Put a finisher on it, it's inconsistent with other parts and it has a crash cymbal.
Why? There's not a real strong sound imo. Same as 01:45:508 (1) -
00:59:436 (1,1) - Ctrl + g ? Will fit the vocals.
!? they're both dons
01:25:456 (1,1,1) - Same situation I mentioned before.
^
01:33:263 - It will be better to use 5-plet patterns maximum. It fits well in this section but it's the only long pattern which breaks the structure.
Fixed
01:40:610 (1) - You can put a finisher on it.
Fixed
01:44:743 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - For this pattern, I think you can follow drums.
Could be confusing. Stucking at it
02:19:793 (1) - You don't need this finisher, it doesn't support a strong sound.
02:24:691 (1) - ^
k
02:25:151 (1,1) - Ctrl + g for consistency.
mistake here, fix
02:26:681 (1) - If you really want to use a 1/8 doublet, this is the spot.
Mmm... nah, not neccesary imo
03:01:426 (1) - Finisher will suit with the crash cymbal.
Same as above
03:16:426 (1,1,1,1) - Instead of 1/6 dddk, I recommend 1/4 kkd for the sake of the drums.
1/6 sounds great imo
in n er
http://puu.sh/x7CFM/cd579fefa2.osu
Topic Starter
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xfraczynho wrote:

in n er
http://puu.sh/x7CFM/cd579fefa2.osu

Okay updated :)
Blackener
Hi! from my queue. :3
Accept as you agree! :)


General and overall
-Every diff but Inner Oni uses too many finishers. That's okay for me but it's noticeable enough to have many modders mention about it.
-Some streams in xfrac's Inner Oni don't make sense in my opinion please ask someone else to fix them.
-02:36:936 ~ 02:56:528 in Oni may has to be fixed in my opinion.

Kantan
01:10:610 (13) - k? To follow high-pitched vocal since d k d k... isn't too hard for kantan players plus it'll make 01:11:222 (14) more emphasized.

01:15:355 (18) - k? I'm not sure, because I saw you make 01:04:793 (5,6) to be k k to follow vocal before, so I think these notes may have to follow vocal, too.

02:06:937 (11) - k, same reason like 01:10:610 (13)

03:13:671 (1) - Should spinner end at 03:16:732 ? I'm not sure.

03:25:915 (10) - k, same reason like 01:15:355 (18) and 02:06:937 (11). (If you agree ;-;)

03:35:099 (19,25) - These notes should be k in my opinion, due to the rise of background instruments pitch (including vocal).

03:42:446 (27,28,29) - I would like to change to k k D personally.

03:46:119 (30) - k, to follow alone vocal.

Futsuu
These suggestions may ruin your mapping style. Please accept as you agree!


00:04:640 (4,5) - As previos modder said they don't sound strong enough. Even if they are strong, it's not suitable to put KK anyway I suggest two ways
-Change 00:04:640 (4,5) to kk or dk (Remove finishers)
-Only remove 00:04:640 (4)

00:40:457 (25,26) - Like previous modder said again, but if if you really want to follow noticeable piano sound. Just Ctrl+G them.

00:53:620 (9,10) - Like my first line.

00:52:089 - There should be some note here, it has too much break in my opinion.

01:05:406 (11) - k? To reflect 01:04:640 (8,9) and I find this sounds better.

01:06:936 (16) - I'd like to change it to k personally.

01:06:324 (14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22) - Hard to explain ;w; Please watch here You can see the notes reflect each other and I think it sounds much better in my opinion.

01:09:997 (24,25,26) - d k k or d d k ? The note 01:10:610 (26) should be k if you want to follow vocal. It also emphasizes next finisher.

01:19:181 (46) - k? To follow high-pitched vocal

01:39:691 (31) - k? I'm not sure if you want to follow vocal here.

01:43:058 (42) - k? ^

01:49:947 (9,10) - Like my first line.

02:01:886 (13) - d? First, to keep consistency for previous kiai and second, to prevent too many k's.

02:03:263 (17) - k? I find this sounds better and for variation purpose.

02:06:936 (27) - k, like 01:09:997 (24,25,26)

02:07:855 (29) - k? It's lower-pitched than 02:08:008 (30) but it still high. (Piano sound of course :3)

02:09:692 (35,36,37,38,39,40,41,42) - Another part that's hard to explain, please watch here again ;w;
-First, I find that 02:10:610 (38) has clearer sound than 02:10:304 (37).
-Second, as you said you put finishers to follow piano sounds, then 02:11:222 (40) should be D because it's lower-pitched than 02:09:998 (36) and 02:12:447 (44).

02:15:508 (49) - k? like 01:19:181 (46).

03:05:865 (9,10) - Like my first liine.

03:26:834 (28) - k, like 02:07:855 (29).

03:42:753 (69,70,71,72) - Should they be d k d k ? I'm not sure.

Muzukashii
00:01:273 (5) - k? this is the same sound of next note.

00:19:028 (34,35,36) - I'm okay with that triplets, I just don't know where it's come up with.

00:51:171 (8) - k, if you want to follow background instrument.

00:58:059 - Putting k here may be nice in my opinion. It's just like triplets preparation.

01:18:875 - Should I put note here, I'm not sure.

01:32:957 (27) - d, if you want to emphasize vocal at 01:33:263 (28).

01:47:497 (8) - k, like 00:51:171 (8). (If you agree ;-;)

In fact, you're also able to put note in 01:54:538 and 01:54:385

01:55:304 (1) - Spinner should end at 01:57:446 in my opinion.

02:15:202 - like 01:18:875. I'm not sure either.

Oni
00:01:273 (5) - k? It's the same sound like next notes

00:22:548 (75) - k? For consistency of the same pattern.

00:22:548 (75,76,77,78) - k ddd? It's hard to explain but I find this sounds better in my opinion.

00:27:446 (103) - I don't know what to do about this pattern but I think this note should be k.

00:42:140 (74) - Also this note.

00:47:038 (103) - And this note.

01:07:548 (30) - d? To emphasize the vocal at 01:07:855 (31).

01:08:773 (35,36,37,38,39,40) - If you want to make duplets. I suggest you using 1/6 snap divisior.

01:16:426 (84,85,86,87,90,91,92,93) - Also these duplets.

01:21:477 (118,119,121,122,123,124) - These duplets

02:05:100 (36,37,38,39,40,41) - These.

02:12:754 (85,86,87,88,91,92,93,94) - Those.

03:24:079 (113,114,115,116,117,118) - Another one.

03:31:732 (165,166,167,168,171,172) - And another one. Oh, you also forgot 03:29:513 (152)

01:19:028 (100) - k? if you want to follow vocal, it also follows piano sound.

01:19:946 (107,108,109) - dkd or ddk? Since dkd reflects kdk or k at 01:20:099 (109) emphasizes high-pitched sound and vocal.

01:38:467 (75) / 01:43:365 (103) - k? Like I have told you many times (If you agree of course ;-;)

02:03:875 (31) - d, like 01:07:548 (30)

02:20:865 (19) - k? If you want to follow vocal.

02:36:936 ~ 02:56:528 - Wow, I really don't know how to figure out about the best pattern. For making this part better please better find some experienced mapper. ;w;

03:23:314 (108) - k? To follow vocal

xfrac's Inner Oni
These suggestions may ruin your mapping style. Please accept as you agree.

00:00:202 ~ 03:49:028 (1) - Wow, that 1 note per combo though.

00:33:416 (1,1) - Ctrl+G ? I don't know what thing is followed by these kk in 00:33:492 (1,1). Unlike 00:38:161 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) that follows vocal.
In the other hand kddkk follows vocal (if you also change 00:33:722 (1) it'll be the best idea in my opinion).

00:59:436 (1,1,1) - I think this part, they should be monochromatic notes like d ddd d ddd ... or k kkk k kkk ... I suggest...
-Changing 00:59:436 (1,1,1) - to ddd or kkk or kdd or kkd or something that shouldn't end with k (excluding kkk).

01:17:497 (1) - d? I think it'll make a better flow.

01:30:508 (1) - k? ^

02:36:936 ~ 02:56:528 - Same like Oni, I'm sorry. ;w;

03:20:099 (1) - k? I think it'll make a better flow.

**I'm bad at making stream, please ask someone else to fix them ;3

Hope this helps, good luck on ranking. Both of you! :D
raii
Hello, m4m request :3


sorri I cant really mod lower diffs ;;;;;;;




Oni


00:10:763 (6,7,8) - invert colours, in the bit right next to it, you map kat to one sound but in the other don. need consistency

00:13:671 - add d ? i can see why you didnt add one but maybe

00:15:661 (34,35,36) - invert colours

00:16:273 (37,38,39) - d,d,k

00:18:110 (50,51,52) - d,k,d / d,k,k

00:20:559 (65,66,67) - d,k,d

00:22:548 (75-81) - k (because map kat to clap sound earlier) d,d,k (fits better) d,k,d (clap sound)

if you wish mirror the one at 00:20:559 for same sounded parts in map

00:42:410 (74,75,76,77) - k, d,d,d

00:46:732 (102) - k

00:54:004 - i think the finishers here are unneccesary

i think in the kiai the density is too similar too muzukashii... maybe add more triples

01:17:038 (39,40) - both d

after the kiai, you still use those doubles eg. 01:21:477 i dont think you should do this. they dont even have this many in inner oni

01:23:467 (81) - d

01:42:753 (101) - d

01:50:406 - same as 00:54:004

01:57:599 (54,1,2) d,k,d

same problem with first kiai... i still dont think the doubles are very good

02:12:753 (85,86) d,d to fit 93 and 94

02:13:365 (89,90) - both d

02:17:334 (1) - k

02:39:385 (16,17) - d,k

02:40:610 (29) - k

03:13:518 (54) - d

i think you should add more triples in last kiai so it fits other kiai


Inner Oni

very good and fun map

00:05:865 (1) - d ?

00:09:997 (1) - d

00:11:298 (1,1) - k,d

00:11:528 (1) - k

00:13:824 (1) - d

00:13:997 (1) - k?

00:15:967 (1) - k

00:16:196 (1,1) - k,d

00:16:426 (1) - k

00:24:691 (1) - d

00:30:355 (1) - d

00:35:253 (1) - d

00:39:997 (1) - d

00:43:441 (1,1) - k,d

00:44:742 (1) - d

00:50:559 (1) - k

00:50:865 (1) - d

00:54:884 (1) - d?

00:55:150 (1) - k?

00:55:457 (1) - d?

00:55:763 (1) - k?

00:55:069 (1) - d ?

01:04:870 (1,1) - d,k

01:06:783 (1) - k

01:13:671 (1) - remove finisher. i dont think it should be here

01:14:283 (1) - d

01:17:957 (1) - d . definite drum sound here

01:27:599 (1,1,1,1,1) - k,k,k,k,d

01:29:130 (1) - d

01:30:584 (1) - d

01:34:334 (1,1,1) - k,k,d

01:46:885 (1) - k

01:48:416 (1) - d

02:03:11) (1) - k

02:08:620 (1) - k

02:09:003 (1,1) - k,d. i think fits better

02:28:824 (1) - d. keep consistency for ddd

03:01:426 (1) - k for consistency

03:10:886 - delete. same reason ^

03:16:426 - the end of this 1/6 is at 03:16:655 . you stop to early, i think you should delete this 1/6 or end on blue tick (which idk if is good to end stuff on blue)

03:22:089 (1) - k

03:29:589 (1,1) - d,k ?

03:30:430 - delete

03:30:507 (1,1) - put these 2 as finisher maybe? (only if you do ^

03:35:482 (1,1) - d,k


not sure if my mod is good and or useful...

good luck on ranked~~~! very good song and map
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