Shikata Akiko - Katayoku no Tori

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tatatat
the audio bitrate is 268kbps while the maximum allowed is 192kbps. Consider compressing your audio file. Once your audio file is compressed, your mapset should also go below the 10MB size limit (right now its at about 11mb). Also the metadata is really messed up for your Rikoukz'(include an s?) Normal.
Another inconsistency with metadata is that widescreen support is toggled off only for the Final Judgement difficulty.
Rikouz' Normal:
Your kiai time usage is too extreme. Although you only toggle kiai time on about once a minute, kiai time lasts for about 35% of the map.
The OD,HP drain, and AR are all way too low.
even though there is only a 0.13 difference in star rating there is an extreme difference in OD,HP, and AR.
Normal:
Kiai time isn't used in this diff, even though it is used in the other two diffs.
The HP drain is too high.
Final Judgement:
The kiai time here is also too extreme.
Overall regarding kiai time, I recommend you make the kiai time sections the same across all diffs.
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Icekalt
Uhm this was a bit unexpected - but really kind of you^^

tatatat wrote:

the audio bitrate is 268kbps while the maximum allowed is 192kbps.Was speaking with themefisto about this wanted to change it later~ Consider compressing your audio file. Once your audio file is compressed, your mapset should also go below the 10MB size limit (right now its at about 11mb). Also the metadata is really messed up for your Rikoukz'(include an s?) Normal.Thats because he re-gave me the map and i forgot to recheck the metadata - was messed up b4 too (dont know why tbh)
Another inconsistency with metadata is that widescreen support is toggled off only for the Final Judgement difficulty.Oups forgot
Rikouz' Normal:
Your kiai time usage is too extreme. Although you only toggle kiai time on about once a minute, kiai time lasts for about 35% of the map.
The OD,HP drain, and AR are all way too low.
even though there is only a 0.13 difference in star rating there is an extreme difference in OD,HP, and AR. Will tell him (thats because it was an easy diff before and he forget to change that~
Normal:
Kiai time isn't used in this diff, even though it is used in the other two diffs.
The HP drain is too high. Uh i'm working on it for like 14 sec so i will implement the kiais when i am at the part
Final Judgement:
The kiai time here is also too extreme.
Overall regarding kiai time, I recommend you make the kiai time sections the same across all diffs. (Deleted first and third kiai - i guess thats fine~
Thank you very much^^ :)
Kaifin
16:51 *IceKalt is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1312305 Shikata Akiko - Katayoku no Tori]
16:52 Kaifin: just the one diff?
16:52 IceKalt: ye
16:52 IceKalt: i mean advanced isnt done
16:52 IceKalt: 85% atm
16:52 Kaifin: hey can u make the hitsoudns not 2% volume
16:53 Kaifin: i guess i'll play it first
16:53 IceKalt: 2%?
16:53 Kaifin: they're really quiet
16:53 IceKalt: k
16:53 *Kaifin is playing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1312305 Shikata Akiko - Katayoku no Tori [Final Judgement]]
16:56 IceKalt: well - hitsounding is coming in like 2 days from another person
16:56 Kaifin: o ok
16:58 Kaifin: it plays ok
16:58 IceKalt: better than bad :D
16:58 Kaifin: it's really messy visually
16:59 IceKalt: i think that the biggest problem on this map i guess~
16:59 Kaifin: yes
16:59 Kaifin: i think that 00:40:294 - these sections are the most poorly mapped
17:00 Kaifin: really high point of emphasis in the song doesnt feel very emphaszied
17:00 IceKalt: you got a suggestion how to emphezise it better?
17:00 Kaifin: you shouldnt lower the sv on this slider 00:41:658 (1) -
17:00 Kaifin: lower it only on this one 00:41:931 (1) -
17:00 Kaifin: you lose all your emphasis by slowing it down one slider too early
17:01 Kaifin: also, just better patterning would have better emphasis
17:01 IceKalt: so i should change the DS here?
17:01 IceKalt: 00:41:931 (1) -
17:01 IceKalt: oh
17:01 Kaifin: you can
17:01 IceKalt: didnt read that
17:02 Kaifin: i think the biggest issue with your map is just placing objects/patterns without thinking about how they relate to each other visually
17:02 IceKalt: i guess i lower 00:41:658 (1) - a bit than the whole rest on 00:41:931 (1) -
17:02 Kaifin: that works as long as it still has some speed
17:03 IceKalt: like 1.1-1.0
17:03 Kaifin: 01:13:022 - some parts of your map get really really cluttered
17:04 Kaifin: cause you overlap so much and dont consistently stack/place objects in places that make sense like you do previous in the first half of the kiai
17:04 IceKalt: maybe i concentrated too much on making straight overlaps so the rest looks ugly
17:04 IceKalt: cause thats what i mostly do
17:05 IceKalt: ok on this section its like the opposide
17:05 Kaifin: 01:14:112 (5,1,1,2,3,4,5) -
17:05 Kaifin: stuff like this is really cluttered
17:05 Kaifin: you go from relatively clean before this point
17:05 Kaifin: to this
17:05 Kaifin: its just kind of a mess of objects
17:05 Kaifin: but you can clean it up slightly to fix it by either fully stacking some objects, or fully seperating them
17:06 Kaifin: 01:17:794 (7,1) -
17:06 Kaifin: heres a tip for making patterns like this
17:06 Kaifin: you wanted to put the note on the slider tick
17:06 Kaifin: so you go to the point in the timeline where the slider tick is
17:06 Kaifin: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8422002
17:06 Kaifin: and then just overlap the circle with the slider ball
17:06 Kaifin: then it's directly on top of the tick
17:07 Kaifin: after fixing it looks like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8422009
17:07 IceKalt: did - thanks for the tip - didnt thought about it
17:08 Kaifin: 01:18:749 (4,5) - this gimmick in general is lik a good idea you just need to be careful cause
17:08 Kaifin: when you do an overlap gimmick
17:08 Kaifin: if you start to overlap inconsistently afterwards
17:08 Kaifin: it ends up looking really cluttered and jumbled and messy
17:08 Kaifin: stuff liek 01:22:840 (1,1) -
17:09 Kaifin: looks quite off
17:09 Kaifin: the "barely" overlaps
17:09 Kaifin: 01:23:658 (1,1,1,2) -
17:09 Kaifin: i wish this was a real line
17:09 IceKalt: oups
17:09 Kaifin: like they were actually lined up
17:09 Kaifin: that would be a much better pattern
17:09 IceKalt: yea
17:09 Kaifin: 01:30:203 (1,2,3,1) -
17:09 Kaifin: stuff like this is cool
17:09 Kaifin: wish you did more stuff like that
17:11 IceKalt: hm tried to implement things like this
17:11 Kaifin: okay so i think it would be more helpful for me just to give you
17:11 IceKalt: but im not a mastermind in creating special things :D
17:11 Kaifin: general aesthetic advice
17:11 Kaifin: for next time
17:11 Kaifin: #1 aesthetic error in your map other than like
17:11 Kaifin: placements just being really cluttered
17:11 Kaifin: is use of 45 degree angles
17:12 Kaifin: 45 degree angles are UGLY AF without the right context
17:12 Kaifin: and despite your map using a shitton of 45 degree angles
17:12 Kaifin: it still doesnt give them context and just kind of looks bad
17:12 Kaifin: of course these things are subjective, but that is the opinion of most people so take that as you will
17:13 Kaifin: some of your patterns are really good ideas that just need to be executed better as well
17:13 IceKalt: can you give a small example of the 45° pattern on my map what you mean
17:14 Kaifin: 01:26:112 -
17:14 Kaifin: stuff like this part is a really good idea
17:14 Kaifin: pattern wise
17:14 Kaifin: but its just not executed well at all
17:14 Kaifin: if you executed it more cleanly, this would be really noticeable and really good
17:14 Kaifin: 01:26:931 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - like if these two properly related to one another
17:14 Kaifin: and was then finished by 01:28:567 (1,2,3) -
17:14 Kaifin: it'd look super sick
17:15 Kaifin: a 45 degree angle is any slider taht looks like this 00:04:294 (1) -
17:15 Kaifin: you'll notice most mappers use a "slightly slanted" or slightly curved
17:15 Kaifin: slider design
17:15 Kaifin: straight up and down looks bad (usually)
17:15 Kaifin: and 45 looks bad (usually)
17:16 IceKalt: sry if i dont comment
17:16 IceKalt: need to understand the context first xD
17:16 Kaifin: its okay its a lot of information
17:18 Kaifin: that is about all i have to say though
17:18 Kaifin: mostly general advice, sorry for not as much specific as you may have been hoping
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00:29 IceKalt: ey~
00:29 gottagof4ast: ey
00:29 IceKalt: could you testplay this map again - try to imrove it over time
00:29 *IceKalt is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1312305 Shikata Akiko - Katayoku no Tori [Final Judgement]]
00:29 gottagof4ast: I can't testplay it rn
00:29 IceKalt: want to see if you think it better than in the beginning
00:29 IceKalt: well
00:30 gottagof4ast: I can check in the ditor though
00:30 IceKalt: why not
00:30 IceKalt: thought just that testplaying would be faster
00:30 gottagof4ast: people would wake up if i started playing now
00:30 gottagof4ast: I tap quite loud
00:30 IceKalt: ok ok
00:31 gottagof4ast: I was thinking that your style of mapping did not really fit your classic anime op
00:31 gottagof4ast: it fits this type of song way better
00:32 IceKalt: thats what i thought too
00:32 gottagof4ast: map more like this
00:32 IceKalt: why i immediatly mapped this song after i saw it on pending xD
00:32 gottagof4ast: I like playing them
00:33 IceKalt: its hard to find those songs tho
00:33 gottagof4ast: yup
00:35 IceKalt: btw what do you think about the idea of 00:59:112 (4,5,6) - and02:20:931 (3,4,5) -
00:35 IceKalt: i mean the diffenrece in slidershape
00:35 gottagof4ast: I'm slowly checking the map
00:35 gottagof4ast: its better
00:35 gottagof4ast: but still feels really easy to play
00:36 IceKalt: cause the second refrain isnt so intense as 1st and 3rd and i want to show that through theese sliders too
00:36 gottagof4ast: 01:02:385 (4,5,6) - spacing liek this would be enough if you still want the concept
00:36 IceKalt: well
00:36 gottagof4ast: 00:59:112 (4,5,6) - but these are really close together
00:37 IceKalt: the DS is the same tho
00:37 IceKalt: both 1.6
00:37 gottagof4ast: really
00:37 gottagof4ast: wow
00:37 gottagof4ast: 01:02:385 (4,5,6) - this one is 2x
00:38 gottagof4ast: but meh your choice
00:38 IceKalt: huh
00:38 gottagof4ast: if you want it like this then its fine
00:38 IceKalt: 01:02:385 (4,5,6) - is 1.6-7
00:39 IceKalt: i needed to rearange them so they are not exactly 1,6
00:39 gottagof4ast: oops yeah
00:39 gottagof4ast: I selected them all accidently
00:39 IceKalt: :D
00:39 gottagof4ast: weirds out ds
00:39 gottagof4ast: 01:22:567 (7,8) - wouldn't this be better as 1/2 slider
00:39 gottagof4ast: it has that extra sound
00:40 IceKalt: hm that would destroy the intensity of that part
00:40 IceKalt: but i know what you mean
00:41 IceKalt: but you think it looks nicer than before? - rearange very much in the 1st refrain
00:41 IceKalt: after kaifins suggestens
00:41 gottagof4ast: it looks alot less messy
00:42 IceKalt: ye that wht he meant too
00:42 IceKalt: now its more organized - expecially after remapping 01:16:840 (3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) -
00:43 gottagof4ast: 01:51:203 (2,3,4,5) - why are these all so different
00:44 gottagof4ast: all differently organized and flow also changes
00:44 IceKalt: hm i guess you are right - its too much
00:44 IceKalt: i first wanted to make 01:51:476 (3) - stand aout from the restr
00:45 IceKalt: rest
00:45 IceKalt: cause of the strong sound
00:45 gottagof4ast: just wanted to say that
00:45 IceKalt: but its too much there
00:45 gottagof4ast: if you make 01:51:749 (4,5) - similar to 01:51:203 (2) - it sohuld be fine
00:46 IceKalt: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8438998
00:46 IceKalt: this is much better
00:47 gottagof4ast: looks good
00:47 gottagof4ast: 02:15:612 (2) - 1/1 slider? 02:15:885 (3) - has like no sound
00:47 IceKalt: LOL
00:47 gottagof4ast: unless im mishearing things
00:47 IceKalt: this is perfect
00:47 IceKalt: cause now there is flow to 01:52:022 (5,1) -
00:47 gottagof4ast: lol
00:47 gottagof4ast: accidental masterpiece
00:47 IceKalt: thanks for pointing that out xD
00:48 gottagof4ast: planned from the start
00:48 IceKalt: i love those things - when you change something you make others accedently better
00:48 IceKalt: brilliant xD
00:49 gottagof4ast: 02:15:885 (3) - but about this
00:49 gottagof4ast: feels pretty overmapped
00:49 gottagof4ast: nvm
00:49 gottagof4ast: I hear a sound
00:49 gottagof4ast: just really damn quiet
00:49 IceKalt: :D
00:50 gottagof4ast: 02:20:931 (3) - are you going to change those sliders here too?
00:50 IceKalt: if you wonder - 02:15:612 (2,3) - are for offbeat
00:50 IceKalt: no
00:50 IceKalt: i tried to explanate before
00:50 gottagof4ast: lemme scroll up
00:50 IceKalt: the refrain is less intense as the others - expecially those background sounds
00:50 gottagof4ast: ok got it
00:51 IceKalt: so i dont make the silder so "intense"
00:51 gottagof4ast: still deserves kiai imo
00:51 gottagof4ast: 02:26:658 (1) - starting here sounds pretty kiai-ish
00:51 IceKalt: this is something a bn needs to tell me - opinions are 50/50
00:52 gottagof4ast: k
00:52 IceKalt: its not like something hard to fix later
00:53 gottagof4ast: 02:44:522 (8) - why does this have more ds?
00:54 IceKalt: uh i would argument with build up
00:54 IceKalt: but that dont work so much
00:54 IceKalt: ah i k
00:54 IceKalt: 02:43:840 (5,6,8) -
00:55 IceKalt: ups
00:55 IceKalt: 02:43:840 (5,6) - this jump is equal
00:55 gottagof4ast: oh ok
00:55 gottagof4ast: 02:49:567 (1,1) - thats some nice sliderart
00:56 IceKalt: someone else did that for me xD
00:56 gottagof4ast: lol
00:56 IceKalt: but i did myself in the advanced
00:56 gottagof4ast: Haven't played other diffs yet
00:56 IceKalt: but dont worry - its in the descriptions
00:56 IceKalt: you dont need
00:56 gottagof4ast: idk know about a 30 sec break
00:56 gottagof4ast: seems a bit long
00:57 IceKalt: ufff
00:57 gottagof4ast: there are some vocals that can be mapped
00:57 IceKalt: but not really well iguess
00:57 IceKalt: less intenser than everything i mapped in the slow parts
00:57 gottagof4ast: first break is fine as its like the quiet part after the storm
00:57 IceKalt: i let it so fer
00:57 IceKalt: far
00:58 gottagof4ast: 2nd break is like break after slow sliderart
00:58 gottagof4ast: you already have the break from following sliderart
00:59 IceKalt: the thing is in theese slow parts i want to map to real vocals - not those fading ones
00:59 gottagof4ast: k
00:59 IceKalt: when you know what i mean
00:59 IceKalt: cause thats what i do in theese slow parts
01:01 gottagof4ast: 03:44:658 (5) - flow makes me expect that this should be to the right of 03:44:385 (4) -
01:01 gottagof4ast: 03:43:567 (1,3) - cause these all point to the right
01:02 IceKalt: before this
01:02 gottagof4ast: 03:44:385 (4) - even this one although by a little bit
01:02 IceKalt: i rearange 03:43:976 (2) - under slidertail xD
01:02 gottagof4ast: lol
01:02 gottagof4ast: didn't even notice
01:02 IceKalt: xD
01:02 gottagof4ast: nice placement
01:03 IceKalt: wait
01:03 IceKalt: i need to arrange averthing a bit cause of
01:04 IceKalt: 03:43:976 (2,5,1) -
01:04 IceKalt: theese overlapps all should be equal
01:04 gottagof4ast: gl with that then
01:04 IceKalt: ok done now
01:04 gottagof4ast: 03:46:567 (6,1,2,3,4) - this flow is too gud
01:05 gottagof4ast: 03:47:522 (4) - spacing this more for a larger gap to 03:47:658 (5) - would be nice though
01:05 gottagof4ast: 03:47:658 (5) - has like that extra sound
01:05 IceKalt: tanks
01:06 IceKalt: yea
01:06 IceKalt: wait - yea to03:47:522 (4) -
01:06 IceKalt: 03:47:522 (4,5) - the ds between theese two should show that
01:07 gottagof4ast: 03:47:658 (5) - just more ds to this slider is what I propose
01:07 gottagof4ast: and thats the easiest by spacing 03:47:522 (4) - somewhere else
01:07 IceKalt: done tho
01:07 IceKalt: ;D
01:07 gottagof4ast: k
01:08 IceKalt: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8439133
01:08 gottagof4ast: looks good
01:08 gottagof4ast: almost the same as where I tried placing it
01:08 IceKalt: :D
01:09 gottagof4ast: 03:54:203 (5,6) - it tilts me that when I flip these they don't match
01:09 gottagof4ast: so close
01:10 gottagof4ast: you never use symmetry over an axis in this map
01:10 gottagof4ast: thats like my go to way of mapping
01:10 IceKalt: uhm could you sc the map as it was
01:10 IceKalt: in this part
01:10 gottagof4ast: sc?
01:10 IceKalt: the placement of 03:54:476 (6) -
01:10 IceKalt: screenshot
01:11 IceKalt: nvm
01:11 gottagof4ast: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8439151
01:11 gottagof4ast: almost
01:12 gottagof4ast: 03:57:749 (5) - this spacing seems unnecessarily high btw
01:12 gottagof4ast: 03:59:112 (4) - while this one gets lower spacing
01:13 IceKalt: fixed a bit
01:14 gottagof4ast: 04:01:294 (7,8,1) - you won't believe howmany times I've choked this jump
01:14 gottagof4ast: no problems with it
01:14 gottagof4ast: just damn difficult
01:14 IceKalt: wait
01:14 IceKalt: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8439167
01:14 IceKalt: a bit better to play
01:15 IceKalt: but still difficult
01:15 gottagof4ast: k
01:15 gottagof4ast: then I can get my nice fc
01:15 IceKalt: :D
01:15 IceKalt: and get 0 pp out of it
01:15 IceKalt: seems leggit
01:16 gottagof4ast: overweighted mao
01:16 gottagof4ast: mpa*
01:16 gottagof4ast: map*
01:16 gottagof4ast: pls keyboard
01:16 IceKalt: 100% 205 pp
01:16 IceKalt: xD
01:16 gottagof4ast: really
01:16 gottagof4ast: no way
01:16 IceKalt: yea
01:16 gottagof4ast: ffs
01:16 gottagof4ast: thats like +1 pp for me
01:17 IceKalt: well i will higher od to 8,5 i guess
01:17 gottagof4ast: its pretty easy to acc
01:17 gottagof4ast: no triples or whatsoever
01:17 IceKalt: LOL rearanging that jump did it to 5,37
01:17 gottagof4ast: 04:10:294 (3) - place this blanket further from the circle
01:17 gottagof4ast: lol
01:17 IceKalt: ok back
01:18 gottagof4ast: 04:09:749 (1) - don't want overlap with 04:09:749 (1) -
01:18 gottagof4ast: oops
01:18 gottagof4ast: ignore one of the 2
01:18 IceKalt: well i have many of theese overlaps in my map
01:18 IceKalt: but did
01:18 gottagof4ast: This one just looks too unintentional
01:18 gottagof4ast: the others genrally look okay
01:18 IceKalt: oh
01:18 IceKalt: xD
01:19 IceKalt: ok
01:19 gottagof4ast: and it's a super easy fix
01:19 IceKalt: i changed it anyway
01:19 gottagof4ast: thats it
01:19 IceKalt: niec
01:19 gottagof4ast: 04:17:931 (1,2,3) - this pattern is also gud
01:19 IceKalt: nice*
01:20 IceKalt: fits perfectly imo there
01:20 IceKalt: 04:22:022 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,1) - do you think thats nice?
01:20 gottagof4ast: yup
01:20 gottagof4ast: like it
01:21 IceKalt: yay
01:21 gottagof4ast: also the places where ds gets more difficult are well chosen
01:21 gottagof4ast: so it works
01:21 gottagof4ast: gtg now
01:21 IceKalt: k
01:21 gottagof4ast: I have to wake up early to study some more
01:21 IceKalt: savelog it for thread ^^
01:21 gottagof4ast: kk
Arugakente
IRC mod

2017-06-26 13:48 IceKalt: are you free now?~
2017-06-26 13:49 Kenterz: I still have 2 mods to do but since I won't do them at the moment, I guess I'm free
2017-06-26 13:49 IceKalt: ok^^
2017-06-26 13:50 IceKalt: ACTION is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1312305 Shikata Akiko - Katayoku no Tori]
2017-06-26 13:50 IceKalt: just the top i duff i guess
2017-06-26 13:50 Kenterz: so IRC ?
2017-06-26 13:50 IceKalt: y
2017-06-26 13:51 IceKalt: was my plan from the beginning :D
2017-06-26 13:52 Kenterz: so what should I focus on ?
2017-06-26 13:52 IceKalt: uh
2017-06-26 13:52 IceKalt: uhm
2017-06-26 13:52 IceKalt: idk
2017-06-26 13:53 IceKalt: what you focus on most of the time yourself i guess
2017-06-26 13:53 Kenterz: Should I focus on really tiny details ?
2017-06-26 13:54 IceKalt: :D
2017-06-26 13:54 IceKalt: you can first take an overview and tell what you see what you dont like
2017-06-26 13:54 IceKalt: then you can go like in smaller detailes
2017-06-26 13:55 Kenterz: Also don't answer "fixed" or anything since it's a bit useless, unless there's something you don't want to fix or you don't understand
2017-06-26 13:56 IceKalt: yea
2017-06-26 13:56 IceKalt: im used to irc - dont worry
2017-06-26 13:56 Kenterz: 00:01:022 (1,3) - overlapping (quite ugly)
2017-06-26 13:57 IceKalt: ups
2017-06-26 13:57 IceKalt: xD
2017-06-26 13:57 IceKalt: a question -
2017-06-26 13:57 IceKalt: after fix 00:01:022 (1,5) - are overlapping now - but i guess its not really a problem
2017-06-26 13:58 Kenterz: nop because you don't see it while playing
2017-06-26 13:58 Kenterz: 00:01:840 (3,4,5) - You use a pattern that would involve 4 sliders (you can feel like there would be a 4th slider behind (4) like how (5) is behind (3)) so you should use a pattern with 3 sliders for exemple (like a triangle or something quite linear)
2017-06-26 14:00 Kenterz: like this 00:18:203 (4,5,6) -
2017-06-26 14:00 IceKalt: u think thats working instead? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8442304 (fits to coming patterns tho
2017-06-26 14:01 IceKalt: (u will see in the refrains
2017-06-26 14:01 IceKalt: )
2017-06-26 14:01 Kenterz: Yep, but here you kinda change the distance snap between them, so don't forget to change for other slider similar in the part
2017-06-26 14:03 Kenterz: 00:04:022 (5,6) - I don't feel like the jump between those 2 is good, the 2 drum sounds aren't really that loud and it breaks the pattern of 3 sliders whereas the voice don't really change. I suggest to have 2 circles quite next to each other like if there was the 3rd slider, but converted with circles (then having them closed to each other will emphasize 00:04:294 (1) - a bit more)
2017-06-26 14:04 IceKalt: uhm
2017-06-26 14:04 IceKalt: about this
2017-06-26 14:04 IceKalt: i would let this
2017-06-26 14:04 Kenterz: hmm okay, quite sad though
2017-06-26 14:04 IceKalt: you will see later i guess
2017-06-26 14:04 Kenterz: 00:04:703 (2) - You don't really much of this shape in that part, it's a bit weird so I'd suggest to change it
2017-06-26 14:06 Kenterz: 00:07:567 (1,2) - This overlap is ugly. I think that's because it's a complete overlap, and because (2) touch (1)'s head
2017-06-26 14:07 Kenterz: 00:09:203 (1,2) - unstacked (really minor)
2017-06-26 14:07 Kenterz: 00:09:612 (2,3) - Same kind of overlap, kind of ugly. Also the flow is really weird here
2017-06-26 14:09 Kenterz: 00:13:158 (2,3,4,5,6) - I don't see why you have so huge jumps there when the voice just keep the same pitch, and when the drums aren't really intense, I'd suggest to have a lower distanec snap, then it'd make the transition with the next slow part
2017-06-26 14:10 Kenterz: 00:14:112 (1,3) - Really ugly overlap. You could have the same curve there. Though I'd suggest this http://puu.sh/wuEn8.jpg (and also change (2) as well)
2017-06-26 14:11 Kenterz: 00:15:749 (1,2,3) - This pattern is nearly not a pattern, it's not visually good, and it lacks of a 1/2 slider at 00:16:294 - imo
2017-06-26 14:12 Kenterz: 00:16:567 (1,2,3) - The distance snap is good here, but then 00:16:976 (4,5,6) - is nonsense since it's quite the same intensity, and you could do something pretty like this http://puu.sh/wuErT.jpg (it'll emphasize 4)
2017-06-26 14:13 Kenterz: 00:20:249 (4,5,6) - The issue is less important here, though you should still use the same distance snap as before
2017-06-26 14:13 IceKalt: huh?
2017-06-26 14:14 IceKalt: wait a moment
2017-06-26 14:14 Kenterz: Same issue as the previous suggestion
2017-06-26 14:15 IceKalt: o didnt saw your suggestion over there
2017-06-26 14:16 IceKalt: nah i let the higher DS at 00:16:976 (4,5,6) - (but will nerv it there) and 00:20:249 (4,5,6) -
2017-06-26 14:16 Kenterz: not really any reason why though :/
2017-06-26 14:17 IceKalt: the sound gets denser imo as the pattern continues
2017-06-26 14:18 Kenterz: I don't think so, there's just a little sound before 00:20:658 - to emphasize the note, but it's not that much dense
2017-06-26 14:19 Kenterz: 00:20:658 (1,2) - Why do you suddenly map the note on (2) ? You didn't do it for 00:17:385 (1) - and 00:14:112 (1) - x3
2017-06-26 14:21 Kenterz: 00:21:476 (1,2,3) - You should maybe try to make a pattern with these 3, could be better since for the moment, the SV change on (1) is a bit weird
2017-06-26 14:21 IceKalt: i thought ut feels better with the vocal
2017-06-26 14:21 Kenterz: There's not a note here in the vocals
2017-06-26 14:21 IceKalt: ye changed it already - was just my reasoning when i did this
2017-06-26 14:22 IceKalt: 00:22:294 (1,2) -
2017-06-26 14:22 IceKalt: here too i guess
2017-06-26 14:22 Kenterz: Yep, since you repeat the structure (which is good)
2017-06-26 14:23 Kenterz: 00:25:567 (1) - Here for exemple it's okay since it's the first time of the part there isn't vocal here, so it makes a difference
2017-06-26 14:23 Kenterz: (about the shape)
2017-06-26 14:24 Kenterz: 00:26:385 (1,1,1,2) - Really good pattern speaking of spacing (visuals could be a bit better though)
2017-06-26 14:24 Kenterz: 00:27:067 (2,1) - I'd feel like having a lower distance snap (maybe while blanket (2)) would feel great while playing
2017-06-26 14:25 IceKalt: i wont blanket it
2017-06-26 14:25 IceKalt: but lower DS
2017-06-26 14:25 Kenterz: noooooo xD
2017-06-26 14:25 Kenterz: wait
2017-06-26 14:26 IceKalt: xD
2017-06-26 14:26 IceKalt: didnt do it dont worry
2017-06-26 14:27 IceKalt: the thing is here - its a common pattern i use many times when this comes up
2017-06-26 14:27 Kenterz: wew I'm back
2017-06-26 14:28 IceKalt: btw 00:30:476 (1,2,3,4,5,1) -
2017-06-26 14:28 IceKalt: i swaped this pattern compleatly
2017-06-26 14:29 Kenterz: swapped ?
2017-06-26 14:29 IceKalt: nah i sc it
2017-06-26 14:29 Kenterz: sc ? xD
2017-06-26 14:30 IceKalt: screenshot
2017-06-26 14:30 Kenterz: Ah ok
2017-06-26 14:30 IceKalt: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8442486
2017-06-26 14:30 IceKalt: didnt realzed that there was a vocal on 00:31:158 (5) -
2017-06-26 14:30 IceKalt: until now
2017-06-26 14:31 Kenterz: Is there any ?
2017-06-26 14:31 Kenterz: Not a note at least
2017-06-26 14:31 IceKalt: not it is
2017-06-26 14:31 IceKalt: now*
2017-06-26 14:32 Kenterz: Yeah but it doesn't follow the vocal ?
2017-06-26 14:33 IceKalt: swaped it back again
2017-06-26 14:33 IceKalt: plays wierd xD
2017-06-26 14:33 Kenterz: Okay x3
2017-06-26 14:33 Kenterz: 00:28:840 (1,3) - Quite ugly, but I understand what you want to do. I'd suggest something like this http://puu.sh/wuF5V.jpg
2017-06-26 14:34 IceKalt: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8442508
2017-06-26 14:34 Kenterz: Yeah could work
2017-06-26 14:35 Kenterz: 00:32:112 (1,3) - (3) has a blanket with (1) but it'd be a lot prettier if you make a blanket with the shape instead
2017-06-26 14:35 IceKalt: your suggestion is nice
2017-06-26 14:35 Kenterz: I used the same pattern in my approval map
2017-06-26 14:35 IceKalt: but
2017-06-26 14:35 IceKalt: 00:29:385 (3) - overlaps are quite ugly
2017-06-26 14:36 IceKalt: arrange it a bit
2017-06-26 14:36 IceKalt: with 00:28:022 (1,2,3) -
2017-06-26 14:36 Kenterz: I don't really think so, maybe a bit
2017-06-26 14:36 Kenterz: don't forget to analyze what the player will see of won't
2017-06-26 14:37 Kenterz: or*
2017-06-26 14:37 IceKalt: just dont wanted that it overlapped with 00:28:567 (3) -
2017-06-26 14:37 IceKalt: done now btw
2017-06-26 14:37 Kenterz: Yeah it could emphasize with the spacing
2017-06-26 14:37 Kenterz: 00:33:749 (1,3) - Another ugly overlap
2017-06-26 14:38 Kenterz: 00:35:385 (1,3) - same
2017-06-26 14:38 Kenterz: 00:36:749 (6,1,2,2,1) - Quite ugly too
2017-06-26 14:39 IceKalt: u think https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8442538is ok?
2017-06-26 14:40 Kenterz: A bit better, but I'd suggest to have (3) in the middle of the slider shape
2017-06-26 14:41 Kenterz: Okay so at this point, I think the map lacks of visuals, rhythm isn't really that much good, some structures could be improved, and there are also issues for spacing
2017-06-26 14:42 Kenterz: Sadly, I think it should be remapped ;w; At least, it's not really ready to be pushed forward
2017-06-26 14:43 Kenterz: Let me find some other kind of issues that I didn't mention
2017-06-26 14:43 Kenterz: 00:59:112 (4,5,6) - ugly shapes, and the pattern doesn't really reflect the song (there's no 3 same sounds)
2017-06-26 14:44 Kenterz: 01:17:931 (1) - A sudden 3/2 slider is a bit weird since you don't use a lot of them
2017-06-26 14:44 Kenterz: 01:21:749 (3,4) - not having the same curves makes it quite ugly
2017-06-26 14:45 Kenterz: 02:46:294 (1,1) - I like these sliders
2017-06-26 14:45 Kenterz: Though 02:49:567 (1,1) - aren't as much dense as these 2
2017-06-26 14:47 Kenterz: Okay that's it, then the issues quite repeats themselves
2017-06-26 14:47 IceKalt: k
Realazy
02:06 IceKalt: hey ~
02:07 Realazy: heya
02:07 IceKalt: are you free atm or are you busy with uhh
02:07 IceKalt: things...
02:07 IceKalt: :D
02:08 Realazy: mm what do you need me for
02:09 IceKalt: uhm a small irc would be great
02:09 IceKalt: but a testplay would do too
02:09 Realazy: how long is the map?
02:09 Realazy: i might be able to do that
02:09 IceKalt: it would be one diff
02:10 IceKalt: buuuuuuuut
02:10 IceKalt: 4:10
02:10 IceKalt: :D
02:10 Realazy: asjk
02:10 Realazy: mmmmight be
02:10 Realazy: possible
02:10 IceKalt: i mean there are lots of slow parts
02:10 IceKalt: wait 2 mins
02:11 IceKalt: im available then ^^
02:13 IceKalt: im here again ~
02:14 *IceKalt is watching [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1243079 Eishoukobu - Oriental Blossom [Master]] -NoFail
02:14 Realazy: send your map
02:15 IceKalt: oups
02:15 *IceKalt is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1312305 Shikata Akiko - Katayoku no Tori]
02:15 IceKalt: uhm fail
02:15 IceKalt: :D
02:15 Realazy: 220bpm
02:15 Realazy: i cant play that lo
02:15 Realazy: ill try but 220bpm is my arch enemy
02:15 IceKalt: lol
02:16 IceKalt: mine too tho
02:20 Realazy: wait how is this only 5.41
02:20 Realazy: last kiai goes hard
02:21 IceKalt: its more like - its easy for the, who can singletap 220 bpm
02:21 IceKalt: for those who can not (good) its very hard :D
02:21 Realazy: because of the high cs
02:22 Realazy: well to be honest
02:22 IceKalt: with cs 4 5,59
02:22 Realazy: this is only a personal opinion but i don't like this style of visuals
02:22 Realazy: some of them are subjective
02:22 Realazy: 00:01:050 (1,2) - this for example
02:22 Realazy: the pattern doesn't look very balanced if that makes sense to you
02:23 IceKalt: i kinda know where you going at with this
02:23 IceKalt: theese 2 doesnt look related
02:23 IceKalt: sth like this i guess
02:23 Realazy: yeah, 1 doesn't flow well into 2, visally speaking
02:24 IceKalt: do you think this is like a problem or just a subjective thing?
02:25 Realazy: i guess this isn't that bad but maybe more people will notice it
02:25 Realazy: take it with a grain of salt though
02:25 IceKalt: :D
02:25 IceKalt: im not afraid about other opinions
02:25 Realazy: 00:05:140 (3,4,5) - but this is an issue for me
02:26 Realazy: i don't necessarily like how it looks but that's not the point, the spacing is really inconsistent with the previous 2 patterns
02:26 IceKalt: im curious there
02:26 IceKalt: cause its like my main pattern
02:26 Realazy: yes i know the map uses lots of those overlaps
02:26 IceKalt: you mean with this? 00:03:504 (3,4) -
02:26 Realazy: and with 00:01:868 (3,4,5) -
02:27 IceKalt: i guess i would fix00:05:140 (3,4,5) - with a higher spacing and lower it here 00:03:504 (3,4) -
02:29 Realazy: probably
02:29 Realazy: although 00:03:504 (3,4) - are okay as they are
02:29 Realazy: because they blanket the wave slider
02:30 IceKalt: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8723567
02:30 IceKalt: made them like this then
02:30 IceKalt: cause if they would sty straight that would look wierd
02:31 Realazy: i think the spacing is still too low
02:31 Realazy: oh wait nvm
02:31 Realazy: 4-5 are good
02:31 Realazy: but 3-4 should be more spaced
02:31 IceKalt: k
02:32 Realazy: think about slider leniency
02:32 Realazy: you don't need to follow the sliderbody for these
02:32 Realazy: so the spacing is much lower than you'd think
02:33 IceKalt: well thats a major thing in this map
02:33 IceKalt: but did that mostly on purpose
02:33 Realazy: yes that seemed like it
02:33 Realazy: i'm not commenting about the pattern itself
02:33 Realazy: but more so how it should be consistent within the map
02:33 IceKalt: but here yea
02:33 IceKalt: here it wasnt really right
02:33 IceKalt: yea
02:37 Realazy: 00:07:595 (1,2) - again this feels out of place
02:37 Realazy: because the previous patterns like 00:04:322 (1,2) - 00:02:686 (1,2) - don't overlap
02:38 Realazy: and spacing is much bigger again
02:38 IceKalt: i guess that was just a misstake of me
02:39 IceKalt: cause the section both did overlap in the beginning
02:39 IceKalt: but i removed them cause of visuals
02:39 IceKalt: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8723615
02:39 IceKalt: fixed
02:40 Realazy: better yup
02:40 Realazy: 00:11:550 (3) - i can't hear any sound on here..?
02:40 Realazy: if anything it's still the same rhythm as before
02:40 IceKalt: there was a reverse before
02:40 IceKalt: but removed it cause of mod
02:41 IceKalt: so i am not really sure about this part
02:41 IceKalt: would you prefer reverse 00:11:277 (2) - or just blank it out?
02:42 Realazy: it's the same as before so why not use 1/1 here too?
02:42 Realazy: but you'd have to do some heavy reworking on that :<
02:42 IceKalt: uhm oups
02:42 IceKalt: yea
02:43 IceKalt: but would be the best solution
02:45 IceKalt: fixed
02:45 IceKalt: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8723646
02:45 Realazy: 00:10:050 (3,4) - i don't mention those usually but they look very off, i think it's because of the blanket
02:46 IceKalt: ?
02:46 Realazy: i mean that the pattern looks weird
02:46 IceKalt: when you cntr+g 00:10:050 (3) - the blanket is alright
02:46 Realazy: compared to00:08:413 (3,4,5) -
02:47 IceKalt: oh
02:47 IceKalt: i think its alright
02:47 IceKalt: ill keep that in mind tho
02:49 Realazy: 00:15:231 (4,5) - according to 00:14:686 (2,3) - they should probably be 1/2 sliders too
02:49 Realazy: cause the vocals are 1/1
02:51 IceKalt: you are probably right lol
02:51 IceKalt: (i shouldnt change somethings so midless cause of mods zzz)
02:51 IceKalt: mindless*
02:51 Realazy: yeah, you don't have to change everything
02:52 Realazy: 00:15:777 (1) - things like these are why your map looks messy visually
02:53 Realazy: considering the intro you mainly use straight or curved sliders
02:53 Realazy: so such a different slider should only be used to stress important sounds
02:54 IceKalt: fixed
02:55 IceKalt: yea theese are the reasons why im not like a good but a average mapper i guess
02:55 IceKalt: when you know what i mean
02:55 Realazy: 00:17:140 (5,6) - you could turn these into a 1/2 slider or something to differentiate these from the last 4 circles since there are vocalshere
02:56 IceKalt: good idea!
02:56 Realazy: well to be fair a lot of the issues repeat themselves
02:56 Realazy: i really can't get to agree on your rhythm choices mostly
02:56 Realazy: 00:17:413 (1) - for example why is this a 1/2 reverse?
02:58 IceKalt: i thought that was fitting
02:58 IceKalt: but when you point it out like that
02:58 IceKalt: its not
02:58 IceKalt: zzz
02:59 Realazy: i mean i don't want to sound like the bad guy or anything like that
02:59 Realazy: but you need to analyze clearly why are doing patterns
02:59 Realazy: in the map
02:59 Realazy: execution is another thing, but the main thing is to know why you're doing things
03:00 Realazy: there are some decent ideas in the map of course
03:00 Realazy: 00:18:231 (4,5,6,1) - this is nice
03:01 IceKalt: btw - i always say "ppls shouldnt be angry at objective critizism"
03:01 IceKalt: so dont think im mad at you or anything :D
03:02 Realazy: yaya it's just that some people think of criticism as a bad thing when it's not
03:02 Realazy: but it has to be objective
03:04 IceKalt: 00:23:959 (1,2,3,4) -
03:04 IceKalt: do you think that rythm choice is ok
03:04 IceKalt: while i changed that into a 1/2 slider00:22:322 (1) -
03:05 Realazy: if it was up to me i'd probably just use 1/1 because the sound on the white tick isn't too strong so it's not an issue if it's not clickable
03:05 Realazy: having extended sliders here would be a bit wrong since there aren't many of them in the map, and because of the previous reason
03:05 Realazy: but if you changed one to 1/2 slider, then change the other to 1/2 too
03:06 Realazy: stay consistent within the map
03:07 IceKalt: i would do a 1/1 tho
03:07 Realazy: 00:19:868 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - this pattern
03:08 Realazy: i see what you're trying to do but
03:08 Realazy: it doesn't work for a few reasons
03:08 Realazy: the difference in spacing between 00:19:868 (1,2,3) - and 00:20:277 (4,5,6) - suggest that there are 2 groups of 3 notes in the song
03:08 Realazy: and that 00:20:277 (4,5,6) - is stronger due to higher spacing
03:09 Realazy: but the thing here is that 123 and 56 only follow the same faint instrument
03:09 Realazy: which doesn't change in intensity, so having 5 and 6 more spaced than 123 would be a bit weird
03:09 Realazy: and 00:20:277 (4) - only follows a drum kick
03:11 Realazy: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8723790 something like this would work pretty well i think
03:11 IceKalt: uhk
03:11 IceKalt: uhm/
03:11 IceKalt: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8723789
03:11 IceKalt: i did sth like this
03:11 Realazy: because you have constant spacing between the circles, and the less important sound, here the kick, is only mapped on a slidertial
03:12 Realazy: wait actually there's no sound on the red tick at all, the kick is on 3
03:12 IceKalt: what is about this what i did cause the spacing between 3 and 1 is reduced there
03:12 IceKalt: lol
03:12 IceKalt: ye
03:12 Realazy: my bad lool
03:12 IceKalt: why did i thought that there was a sound
03:12 IceKalt: wtf+
03:13 Realazy: the instrument isnt very loud so you could've mistaken it
03:13 IceKalt: probably
03:13 Realazy: 00:21:504 (1,2,3) - these make sense in terms of rhythm
03:14 Realazy: but you could've made 1 different from 2 and 3 to differenciate when you click on a vocal sound, and when you click on a drum sound
03:14 Realazy: because 2 and 3 are on drums and 1 is on vocals
03:15 IceKalt: uhm i mapped it like - you should see (1) and (2,3) not as the same
03:15 Realazy: good, because right now since they're all the same shape
03:16 IceKalt: this would be better ? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8723789
03:16 Realazy: it implies that they follow the same sounds
03:16 IceKalt: like 00:23:140 (1,2,3) -
03:16 Realazy: you sent the wrong link lool
03:16 Realazy: yes that one is good
03:16 IceKalt: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8723815
03:17 IceKalt: oups ^^
03:17 IceKalt: btw 00:31:050 (4) - is a 1/2 now
03:18 Realazy: 00:28:868 (1,3) - this overlap is VERY messy
03:18 IceKalt: and that 00:33:777 (1,3) - overlap dont exists anymore
03:20 IceKalt: uh
03:20 IceKalt: yea
03:22 IceKalt: fixedf
03:22 Realazy: 00:37:050 (1,2) - and again.. i just dont see the point in those overlaps tbh
03:22 Realazy: it just doesnt look polished
03:24 IceKalt: i should just remap that part :D
03:26 IceKalt: fixed
03:27 Realazy: brutal honesty here, the whole map needs lots of readjustments and reworking, rhythm is a huge issue, visuals seem really rushed and there's a noticeable lack of structure in the map, in that the patterns don't have much relation with themselves except for the occasional overlapped patterns that you have throughout the map
03:30 IceKalt: well - like my main concept is the circular movement in this diff
03:30 IceKalt: but i guess its nothing such spectecular
03:35 IceKalt: but thank you very much - yea its getting late and i think this is enough so far - i mean yea im still learning and imo you can learn the best in irc so you can see the writers opinion at its best
03:35 IceKalt: you can ofc post the log in my thread
DendyHere
Hi
Mod requested by Loreley (зачем)

00:01:050 (1) - most of your sliders are connected to each other which making it very good aesthetics, but the beginning of the map seems for little bit out of the place, I can suggest you make connection between first slider and this 00:01:459 (2) slider for better looking
00:02:140 (4,1) - ugly overlap, you can try to make the 1/2 slider go inside of the 1/1, it will have a better look and also will have a change to this 00:01:868 (3,4,5) boring-shape 1/2 sliders
00:28:868 (1,3) - you have very low amount of overlaps which can make them attractive to look, most of them are connections between 1/2 to emphasis vocal or chorus. Try to make blanket to not breaking this concept
00:30:231 (5,6) - seems random for me, any explanation why it has such a large spacing?
00:40:731 (1) - shape seems messy for me, I can see that it's trying to express the chorus, but can u at least change a shape?
00:41:140 (1,2) - better to make them the same, will have a better look at the map
01:53:686 (6) - maybe NC? Vocal changed
02:03:640 (1,1) - while playing this stand out as a spike for me, it's very unusual when the map gets first 1/4 which can be expected as a 1/2 slider, player might drop the combo or just lose concentration. I suggest its just better to make it as a triple to make it more appropriate
02:27:504 (1,2,3) - this slider have connections between each other, this one, not 02:28:322 (1,2,3,1,2), try to make them stand out, as they important too
02:38:140 (1) - perfect
03:17:959 (2,3) - there is no connection between sliders, 03:23:140 (1,2,3) - but there is
03:45:231 (1) - bad shape, try to make it better visually
00:16:595 (4) - I suggest you can make reverse sliders stand out as they have very specific sound on them, also most of the sliders at the map trying to express the song, so why don't change make this slider more special? Example
00:19:868 (4) - ^
00:32:959 (4) - vocal pulls itself, maybe change it to the slider?
00:34:595 (2,3) - there were no overlaps in a beginning at all, it does not look pretty for the whole map
00:35:413 (1,2,3) - ^
00:40:322 (1,2,3,4) - here sliders are making connection between each other, but here don't 00:43:595 (1,2,3,4) why?
01:43:050 (3,2,3) - bad overlaps
01:50:686 (1,2) - fix blanket plz
02:29:686 (5,6,1) - very uncomfortable movement for the Hard difficulty, most of the map not breaking flow so hard as this part, is just naturally hard to play
02:46:322 (1) - weird shape

Other difficulties generically looks fine for me, gl
Topic Starter
Icekalt

DendyMudak wrote:

Hi
Mod requested by Loreley (зачем)

00:01:050 (1) - most of your sliders are connected to each other which making it very good aesthetics, but the beginning of the map seems for little bit out of the place, I can suggest you make connection between first slider and this 00:01:459 (2) slider for better looking well the blanket connects them - not really less than lots of other patterns tho^^
00:02:140 (4,1) - ugly overlap, you can try to make the 1/2 slider go inside of the 1/1, it will have a better look and also will have a change to this
00:01:868 (3,4,5) boring-shape 1/2 sliders nice idea
00:28:868 (1,3) - you have very low amount of overlaps which can make them attractive to look, most of them are connections between 1/2 to emphasis vocal or chorus. Try to make blanket to not breaking this concept i get your concerns but i already kinda blanket this slider this putting it exat in the middle of 00:28:050 (1,2,3) - . there isnt really a way to blanket this without ruining flow imo
00:30:231 (5,6) - seems random for me, any explanation why it has such a large spacing? uhhhh - the 6 slipped i guess
00:40:731 (1) - shape seems messy for me, I can see that it's trying to express the chorus, but can u at least change a shape? looks nicer now
00:41:140 (1,2) - better to make them the same, will have a better look at the map couldnt made that b4 cause of space problems - now the problems are gone tho so fixed^^
01:53:686 (6) - maybe NC? Vocal changed i only use NC's for the loud drums - would be inconsistend when i would use it for the vocal ~
02:03:640 (1,1) - while playing this stand out as a spike for me, it's very unusual when the map gets first 1/4 which can be expected as a 1/2 slider, player might drop the combo or just lose concentration. I suggest its just better to make it as a triple to make it more appropriate i think its ok here - a triple would just stand out here (expecially cause i dont really express intense vocals as circles)
02:27:504 (1,2,3) - this slider have connections between each other, this one, not 02:28:322 (1,2,3,1,2), try to make them stand out, as they important too uhhmm - see them as 2 groups (with each 2 measures) 1st group (stacked): 02:26:686 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - - 2nd group (unstacked): 02:28:322 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4) - (like this there is structure)
02:38:140 (1) - perfect thanks^^
03:17:959 (2,3) - there is no connection between sliders, 03:23:140 (1,2,3) - but there is i dont really think there is no connection with the sliders (it isnt just so obvious): -all slider going in the same direction, - all are curved, - if you put 2 and 3 together -> it has the same shape as slider 1
03:45:231 (1) - bad shape, try to make it better visually fixed (still ugly tho lmao)
00:16:595 (4) - I suggest you can make reverse sliders stand out as they have very specific sound on them, also most of the sliders at the map trying to express the song, so why don't change make this slider more special? Example
00:19:868 (4) - ^ why not - i like my curves ;)
00:32:959 (4) - vocal pulls itself, maybe change it to the slider? i put in filler rythm there
00:34:595 (2,3) - there were no overlaps in a beginning at all, it does not look pretty for the whole map changed it
00:35:413 (1,2,3) - ^ now with new intensity coming i let them be with rising intensity
00:40:322 (1,2,3,4) - here sliders are making connection between each other, but here don't 00:43:595 (1,2,3,4) why? uhh i wanted to connect them a bit - but i failed :D - ill made it better
-------loreley--------------
01:43:050 (3,2,3) - bad overlaps
01:50:686 (1,2) - fix blanket plz
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02:29:686 (5,6,1) - very uncomfortable movement for the Hard difficulty, most of the map not breaking flow so hard as this part, is just naturally hard to play well - its a triangle rotation 110 bpm singletap with following slider what even at first flows with the motion - i dont see really a problem there (i know where you getting at but i dont see this as a problem)
02:46:322 (1) - weird shape not my best one i need to admit - if i feel like it and/or another person is pointing that out ill ramke that slider ~

Other difficulties generically looks fine for me, gl
Thanks for the mod ~ :)
PantyDev
Hello! ;)
[General]
  1. Are you sure that this central part (02:20:140 to 02:46:322) should not have kiai?
  2. Pls fix troubles in collab insane diff and other diffs
  3. Nice song


[Iceley's Hard]
00:09:640 (2,5,6) - stack it
00:15:777 (1,2,3) - blanket looks little bit ugly
00:38:686 (3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - such a perfect pattern! i'm serious. But i think u must stack it 00:38:686 (3,4,1) - (3 - start of slider, 4 - center of slider, 1 - start with 4(center) and end with 3(start)) :lol:
01:07:868 (2,1) - stack it
01:19:595 (1,1) - same
01:20:413 (1,2) - wtf blanket
01:50:686 (1,2) - ^
02:42:231 (1,2) - ^
02:43:595 (5,1) - ^
02:14:140 (2,5,1,2) - i don't see the sense in this sliders
03:41:959 (1,2) - why is this differt sliders
03:51:505 (2,1) - stack it

[Collab Insane]
00:18:231 (2,1) - i think here must be a blanket
00:50:140 (1,2,3,4) - imo it's will be hard to aim this pattern. Reduce the first slider to blue tick please.
00:59:140 (1,2,3) - I will ask only once - these last two sliders are not stuck, are you sure that this patterns(yeah all of them) must be unstack?
01:00:777 (1,2,3) - ^ etс.
01:03:640 (2,1) - stack it
01:04:868 (1,2) - stack pls
01:06:504 (1,2) - same
01:06:504 (1,2,2) - ^
01:08:140 (1,1) - don't do this
01:08:959 (1,2) - ^
01:09:504 (2,1) - ^
01:10:595 (2,2) - stack with 01:10:322 (1,1) -
01:10:595 (2,1) - stack
01:17:959 (1,2) - ^
01:20:413 (1,2) - ^
01:21:777 (3,1) - ^
01:21:777 (3,1,2) - ^
01:22:868 (1,2) - ^
01:57:231 (1,2,3) - ^
01:58:868 (1,2) - ^
01:59:414 (2) - tap is not on a tick
02:07:459 (1,1) - stack
02:13:595 (1,2) - ^ pls
02:20:140 (1) - where is kiai? There is start of strong part.
02:20:550 (2) - clap must be on the start of slider, not end.
02:23:413 (1,2) - mb You can remake these slides so that the last one will stack with 02:24:777 (5) - ?
02:29:959 (1) - why is this slider so fast? in first kiai part it was slower( 01:08:140 (1) - )
02:30:777 (1) - i don't sure that this slider must have be a clap in the end, but in the first kiai part it was be.
02:43:049 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - I do not say anything about other overlaps, but this looks ugly
03:42:368 (2,3) - stack it
03:47:413 (3,1) - ^
03:48:504 (1,2) - ^
03:50:140 (1,2) - ^
03:53:413 (1,2,2) - ^
03:53:959 (1,2) - ^
04:04:049 (1,2) - ^
04:06:231 (3,2) - ^

[Final Judgement]
00:23:959 (1) - clap + whistle
00:26:686 (1,1) - high ds ... or no?
00:27:095 (2,2,1) - stack it
01:54:777 (2,2) - ^
02:31:595 (1,2,4) - mb blanket?
Topic Starter
Icekalt

PantyDev wrote:

Hello! ;)
[General]
  1. Are you sure that this central part (02:20:140 to 02:46:322) should not have kiai? too much kiai time then
  2. Pls fix troubles in collab insane diff and other diffs
    ill fix them
  3. Nice song


[Iceley's Hard]
00:09:640 (2,5,6) - stack it it is stacked
00:15:777 (1,2,3) - blanket looks little bit ugly fixed
00:38:686 (3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - such a perfect pattern! i'm serious. But i think u must stack it 00:38:686 (3,4,1) - (3 - start of slider, 4 - center of slider, 1 - start with 4(center) and end with 3(start)) :lol:they dont need to be stacked but changed it a bit cause it was inconsistend

[Collab Insane]

All the stacks you noticed were editor bugs what will be fixed in later updates

00:18:231 (2,1) - i think here must be a blanket i dont really intent to put a blanket here ^^
00:50:140 (1,2,3,4) - imo it's will be hard to aim this pattern. Reduce the first slider to blue tick please. idk what went wrong but there is a greenline missing ~
00:59:140 (1,2,3) - I will ask only once - these last two sliders are not stuck, are you sure that this patterns(yeah all of them) must be unstack? thats how this pattern works there
01:00:777 (1,2,3) - ^ etс.
01:03:640 (2,1) - stack it
01:04:868 (1,2) - stack pls
01:06:504 (1,2) - same
01:06:504 (1,2,2) - ^
01:08:140 (1,1) - don't do this fixed with green line (was missing idk)
01:08:959 (1,2) - ^
01:09:504 (2,1) - ^
01:10:595 (2,2) - stack with 01:10:322 (1,1) -
01:10:595 (2,1) - stack
01:17:959 (1,2) - ^
01:20:413 (1,2) - ^
01:21:777 (3,1) - ^
01:21:777 (3,1,2) - ^
01:22:868 (1,2) - ^
01:57:231 (1,2,3) - ^
01:58:868 (1,2) - ^
01:59:414 (2) - tap is not on a tick
02:07:459 (1,1) - stack
02:13:595 (1,2) - ^ pls
02:20:140 (1) - where is kiai? There is start of strong part. i erased the kiai there cause then it would be too much kiai time in the map
02:20:550 (2) - clap must be on the start of slider, not end. this is wrong here but it is not rule tho
02:23:413 (1,2) - mb You can remake these slides so that the last one will stack with 02:24:777 (5) - ? this isnt really necesary
02:29:959 (1) - why is this slider so fast? in first kiai part it was slower( 01:08:140 (1) - ) this is a collab so not everything in the diff needs to be equal
02:30:777 (1) - i don't sure that this slider must have be a clap in the end, but in the first kiai part it was be. fixed
02:43:049 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - I do not say anything about other overlaps, but this looks ugly uuuhhh well - what should i say about this ...
03:42:368 (2,3) - stack it
03:47:413 (3,1) - ^
03:48:504 (1,2) - ^
03:50:140 (1,2) - ^
03:53:413 (1,2,2) - ^
03:53:959 (1,2) - ^
04:04:049 (1,2) - ^
04:06:231 (3,2) - ^

[Final Judgement]
00:23:959 (1) - clap + whistle good catch
00:26:686 (1,1) - high ds ... or no? wouldnt be necesary cause the 3/4 jumps make it intense enough
00:27:095 (2,2,1) - stack it again a edito bug zzz
01:54:777 (2,2) - ^ ^
02:31:595 (1,2,4) - mb blanket? i dont quite know where but i did it more symetrical
thanks for mod ^^
RevengeZ
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(because i'm not the one modding it)

Lince Cosmico wrote:

[- - General - -]
  • - You have some unsnap and sv lines issues that i'lll point on each diff
    - Disable Widescreen Support, as i can see you're not using any Storyboard and the background fits both screens (wide and 800x600) so there's no point on having it enabled.
    - Add "Umineko no Naku Koro ni" (it's the romanization of the Source)

[- - Rikoukz' Normal - -]
  1. 00:04:322 (1) - If you think, this represents sounds from the same part that the previous notes, so i'd recommend you to remove NC here and add it on 00:05:959 (3) - so the NC actually represents the song. If you keep your current NC and add one more to this one, then 00:04:322 (1,2) - this combo would be too short
  2. 00:10:868 (1) - // 00:12:504 (3) - Here too, You should do the same NC pattern than above (for the same reasons)
  3. 00:10:868 (1) - Also, on this part, Why did you use a repeat slider? This sounds exactly like 00:04:322 (1) - . It could be fine if there was any rhythm progression but there isn't (because it's the only two times that the sound appears), so I think that it would be better to use a long slider OR a repeat slider on the previous one, to keep consistency
  4. 00:27:231 (1) - Is this NC really needed? It's part of the same rhythm section 00:26:413 (1,1,2,3,4,5) -
  5. 00:32:959 (5) - Why don't you extend this to 00:33:504 - ? It would fit the vocals a lot better than now. Obviouslly the spacing of the next object will have to be changed but it's not a big deal
  6. 00:41:686 - I'd add a circle here (with NC included) to add emphasis to 00:41:959 (3) - , the current rhythm is pretty weird and a Normal difficulty player wouldn't expect it imo. As i said the NC thing i'll explain it a bit, because you could just say "But you said before that a 2 combo lenght would be short", yes, but in this case you're following something that only covers a small piece of rhythtm that is pretty singular and special, so it won't be bad to add NC to emphasize it correctly
  7. 00:43:322 - You should add a circle here, it feels empty in my opinion. Also, you did it afterwards on 00:46:595 (5) - , so to keep consistency i'd recommend you to add it
  8. 00:44:959 - Here it happens again, I highly recommend you to add a circle here and put NC on it using the same reasons from above
  9. 00:53:413 (1) - This is just a visual suggestion, but can you move the last anchor of this slider a bit up? or at least fix the circle form (unless it's done like that on purpose) because it feels a bit ugly, but as i said, this is just a suggestion
  10. 00:57:231 - Remove this unnecesary green line
  11. 01:10:322 (4) - This really does feel weird while playing, I think that you should just use a Circle+Slider pattern like this (timeline) and this (playfield sample)
  12. 01:17:686 - It wouldn't play bad if you add a circle here, it would emphasize the next slider in a cool way imo. Also, you added it on future parts (02:39:504 (4) - and 04:01:322 (4) - ) so it would be inconsistent if you don't add it
  13. 01:24:231 - It's not an issue, but i'm not sure if you're using it for 01:24:504 (1) - or not, If that's the case, could you move it to 01:24:504 - to avoid confusing with future modders?
  14. 01:24:504 (1,2,3) - For this pattern, I feel like it's not really emphasizing the map correctly, as i can hear, following vocals would be the right choice. I'll suggest this pattern for that part, it looks kinda messy but it fits the vocals perfectly and it isn't hard to play. Also, it would be placed just before a break so it would be well placed too.
  15. 02:05:140 - Same thing from before (you already know what i'm talking about so i don't have to repeat all)
    02:08:413 - Here too
  16. 02:32:140 (4) - This has the same rhythm than 01:10:322 - so you might change this here too with the pattern that i suggested before (if you applied it)
  17. 03:01:050 (2) - The spacing here feels kinda too high, even if there's that much of time difference it feels really big.
  18. 03:41:942 (1) - This note is unsnapped, you might snap it again
  19. 03:53:959 (4) - You should use the same rhythm that i said before (01:10:322 - // 02:32:140 (4) -)
  20. 04:01:595 (1,2,3) - Why did you switch shapes on this part? In the whole map you used a Curvy Shape first and then two Straight Shapes, but here you did it in reverse, you used a Straight Shape and then two Curvy Shapes. I suggest you to do it as you did before to keep consistency
  21. 04:04:186 - Remove this unnecessary green line
  22. 04:21:231 - You should make SV a bit lower here, since the part is too much calm and it's also after a "hard" part. I suggest you to put 0,75x

Really good diff, pretty neat, there are some ugly shapes but meh, nothing really bad on this diff.

[- - Advanced - -]
  1. 00:40:322 (1) - Just a small visual thing, you could add a grey anchor on the straight part of the slider so it fits the diagonal that made the slider from before
  2. 00:41:686 - You could use this pattern instead. It would emphasize the vocals in a better way imo
  3. 00:43:050 (4) - Here too
  4. 01:07:050 (6) - You should add NC here to difference this pattern from the previous sliders (also for the HP bonus just if someone misses on the previous pattern)
  5. 01:16:322 (4) - Is this non-hitsounded in purpose? If not, please fix
  6. This pattern 01:20:140 (5,6,7,8) - might be taken as a square (a square whose all notes are part of the same rhythm), so I suggest you to add NC on 01:20:413 (6) - to difference it from the other circles and also because it could be mistaken with a single rhythm square
  7. I'm pretty sure that this 01:20:413 (6) - and 02:07:050 (1,2,3) - has a similar rhythm that should use the same pattern, so i suggest you to change this 02:07:050 (1,2,3) - into a slider + circle to keep consistency
  8. Same here with 02:05:413 (1) - and 02:08:686 (1,2) - . I highly recommend you to change 02:08:686 (1,2) - into a long slider+circle. It really does fit better in my opinion.
  9. 02:16:868 (1) - You could end this on 02:18:231 - and add a circle on 02:18:504 - . There's a sound (02:18:231 - ) that is audible enough to not be skipped and it wouldn't be bad to emphasize it with the slider
  10. 02:21:231 (2,3,4) - This has literally zero rhythm in my opinion, you could use a better pattern like this. Personally i think that this would fit the vocals really good, at least better than now
  11. 02:49:595 (1) - Missing a hitsound
  12. 03:41:959 - Enable kiai on the BPM line and also fix the volume level on both lines (BPM line says 80% and green line, at the same time, says 75%)
  13. 03:50:686 (6) - Add NC too if you applied before. With this one you could make it flow better, moving the next circles to the left and making something like this
  14. 04:22:049 - As i said in the previous diff, i also recommend lowering the SV here to 0,75x
  15. 04:26:959 (4) - You really should make this Slider+Circle. That end (04:27:504 - ) MUST be clickable, it's really loud and it's a critical sound to end the map.

This difficulty needs a lot of work on visuals, most of the slider shapes are really ugly. The rhythm is kinda repetitive on the kiais so it doesn't really follow the vocals correctly. But some patterns were really cool so i'm hoping that you will improve this diff

[- - Iceley's Hard- -]
  1. 00:15:777 (1) - This NC is kinda unnecessary, the rhyhm is the same and the vocals doesn't change at all, in any case you could just add it here instead 00:16:595 (4) -
  2. 00:17:413 (1) - As I can see you're mapping, it's not a bad idea shortening this slider until 00:17:686 - and adding a slider from 00:17:822 - to 00:17:959 -
  3. 00:50:140 (3) - Add NC to keep consistency (you used a 2 combo lenght on 00:46:868 (1,2) - so it would be good if you do it again on the second time), It's true that the rhythm doesn't change that much as it does on 00:48:504 - but it still changes enough imo
  4. 01:12:777 (5) - I suggest you to move this a bit like in x:412 y:340 so the spacing gap between it and the next slider isn't too high
  5. 01:13:050 (1) - You used a reverse slider here, and then, for the same rhythm you used 01:14:686 (1,2,3) - a Slider+circle+slider pattern. It doesn't really changes enough to make the pattern different imo, so i suggest you to change the second one into a reverse slider (because it fits better) to keep consistency
  6. 01:19:595 (1,1) - Snap these two? That overlap might be confusing for the player since the whole circle is hidden by the previous slider
  7. 01:31:050 - You should add a circle with NC here (but don't add a break between this and the previous circle, so it emphasizes the vocals). The break must start there, the song claims for it, so ignoring it would feel kinda empty or misstimed for the player
  8. 01:44:959 (1) - Remove unnecessarry NC, the rhythm nor the vocals doesn't change too much imo
  9. 01:59:686 (1) - Change this into a slider+circle to keep consistency with 01:58:049 (1,2) -
  10. 02:05:140 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - This feels more like a "3 - 4" combo for me. Also this 02:05:959 (4,1,2,3) - would be already part of a pattern (in terms of note placement)
  11. 02:08:413 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - Same thing here
  12. 02:18:504 (1,3) - Just for visuals, stack these two (nothing really relevant)
  13. 03:41:959 - Add kiai on the BPM line

The kiais seems pretty neat, i like them. Nice collab

[- - Collab Insane - -]
  1. 00:16:595 (3,4,5) - This rhythm plays kinda bad because it's 4 repeats, and nobody expect 4 repeats. I think that using 3 repeats + 3 circles would fit a lot more better
  2. 00:17:413 (1) - Missing hitsounds?
  3. 00:19:868 (2,3,4) - Here too, I think that 3 repeats + 3 circles would fit better
  4. 00:52:595 (4) - Vocals starts here right? Adding NC wouldn't be a crazy thing
  5. 00:57:231 - Unnecessary green line
  6. 01:19:595 (1,2,3) - I guess you should do here what you did on 01:18:777 (1,2,3) - . I mean, the sliders should be the same than the one from before, i don't really know how to explain it but i hope that you'll understand, basically i mean converting the second triangle into this
  7. 01:21:163 (4) - This circle is barely barely visible, You should make it more visible imo, it could be confusing for the player
  8. 01:23:686 (1) - I suggest you to convert this into 3 circles so it isn't the same than 01:24:504 (1,1) - that are from a different part
  9. 01:30:231 (5) - Add NC? it becomes different here
  10. Remove unnecessary green lines:
    01:30:436 - // 01:30:504 -
    01:30:709 - // 01:30:777 -
    01:30:981 -
  11. 01:53:140 (1) - This NC is kinda unnecessary, isn't it? The rhythm doesn't change nor the vocals does so i guess that you don't need it
  12. At least in this diff, the intensity is enough to add a kiai on 02:20:140 - imo. The previous diffs made it easier/not intense as the current kiais so it wasn't necessary, but on this diff this part is the same as the kiais so it would be consistent if you add it here. I understand that you didn't add kiai because the intensity of the song was less than the current kiais but here it's represented as intense so it may have a kiai
  13. 02:56:140 - You should add a break after this and end it 02:58:322 - (i don't know if you know since i learned it later on mapping, but you can move the break and these things), it would emphasize more the next circle imo
  14. 03:03:231 (5) - This circle should be a bit more to the right i guess
  15. 03:06:777 (1,1) - It isn't visible while playing but it's noticeable, this overlap shouldn't be like that, maybe you can move this 03:07:595 (1,2) - a bit to the left so it overlaps in a better way
  16. 03:12:504 (1,2,3,4,5) - The rhythm changes here and the vocals start being louder, this doesn't represents too much what we can hear in the song actually, so you should follow the vocals imo. I'm talking about the whole part, not only that stream (03:19:050 (1,2,3,4,5) - )
  17. 03:17:413 (1) - The thing from above includes changing this into a long slider
  18. 03:25:868 - Why is a break? It doesn't really make too much sense, there are a lot of sounds and voices that you could use to emphasize the epicness of this 03:37:050 - moment
  19. 03:41:959 - Add the kiai on the BPM Line
  20. 03:47:549 (4,3) - Since you stacked 03:47:413 (3,1) - i think that you should also stack this two
  21. 04:08:140 - I don't really know why did you make this part less intense than the kiais, i mean, if you hear you can hear the same sounds that you used for 03:44:413 (1,2,3) - this kind of patterns, but on every diff you did it as if that were slow and calm. I think that you might remap this into a coolest part (also emphasizing the epicness of the song, since this is clearly the best part of it) and add kiai at least, since as i said before, it's intense enough
  22. 04:22:049 (2) - Add NC

This is such a neat diff, i really like it, also you kept the concept from the last diff something that i was really impressed! Nice job :) this doesn't really need work at all, just some things but the diff is cool as fuck

[- - Final Judgement - -]
  1. 00:17:004 (4) - You kinda break the flow wiith this circle, at least move it a bit to the right. or use the same rhythm than here 00:19:868 (1,2,3,4,5) - to be consistent at least
  2. 00:23:140 (1,2,3) - Why is this 00:23:140 (1) - the only slider without curve? They're suposed to be one pattern from the same rhythm as i can hear so i guess that you should've added a curve there too
  3. 01:22:459 (6) - I'd move this circle a bit (somewhere like x:87 y:29). The current pattern makes a really open jump that isn't really comfortable to play and can cause a lot of unnecessary chokes.
  4. 01:51:231 (2) - This is just a visual suggestion, but isn't this way too curved? I guess removing a bit of the curve won't make it worse
  5. 02:37:050 (3) - hmm, i've been wondering while playing but, What about doing Ctrl+G on this? It might look kinda weird in the editor but try playing and give me your thoughts
  6. 03:12:777 (2) - You could add NC here (and similar parts) because here's where the vocal starts. Yeah, there will remain a circle with 1 combo but since this is a calm part and there's not too much spacing between them i don't see i bad
  7. 03:28:731 (4) - This circle is pretty confusing and hard to see, maybe it should be stacked with 03:28:595 (3) -
  8. 03:32:686 (1,2,3,4) - I feel that the sliders are way too long for what they're, I think that you should lower the SV here just a bit
  9. 03:41:959 - You're using 75% volume on your BPM line and 100% on your green line, please decide and fix
  10. 03:45:231 (1) - This slider shape is really weird, i suggest just using a simple curve here
  11. 04:08:140 - I wont repeat the same, just read what i wrote in the Collab Insane diff about this part
  12. 04:23:686 (4) - Add NC
  13. 04:23:686 (4,1) - Stacking them wouldn't be bad
  14. 04:26:959 (4) - Add NC

Wow! The visuals have some flaws and these things but the concept is really good! So fun to play :)
This took me like 3-4 hours, but i think that it's worth, Good luck on ranking!
Topic Starter
Icekalt
did took a while that i finished ^^

RevengeZ wrote:

DO NOT GIVE KUDOSU TO THIS POST
(because i'm not the one modding it)

Lince Cosmico wrote:

[- - General - -]
  • - You have some unsnap and sv lines issues that i'lll point on each diff
    - Disable Widescreen Support, as i can see you're not using any Storyboard and the background fits both screens (wide and 800x600) so there's no point on having it enabled.
    - Add "Umineko no Naku Koro ni" (it's the romanization of the Source)

[- - Advanced - -]
(general)ik that the advanced need the most work - im still strugleing if should just deleat and remap it or if i should just let it as now and impliment mod
  1. 00:40:322 (1) - Just a small visual thing, you could add a grey anchor on the straight part of the slider so it fits the diagonal that made the slider from before did ^^
  2. 00:41:686 - You could use this pattern instead. It would emphasize the vocals in a better way imo agreed
  3. 00:43:050 (4) - Here too i think you meant 00:44:959 - (used another rythm instead here
  4. 01:07:050 (6) - You should add NC here to difference this pattern from the previous sliders (also for the HP bonus just if someone misses on the previous pattern) i nced 01:07:322 (1) - cause thats where the new pattern begins ^^
  5. 01:16:322 (4) - Is this non-hitsounded in purpose? If not, please fix oups
  6. This pattern 01:20:140 (5,6,7,8) - might be taken as a square (a square whose all notes are part of the same rhythm), so I suggest you to add NC on 01:20:413 (6) - to difference it from the other circles and also because it could be mistaken with a single rhythm square thats the same nc pattern i use for 01:20:413 (1) - so it'll work really well
  7. I'm pretty sure that this 01:20:413 (6) - and 02:07:050 (1,2,3) - has a similar rhythm that should use the same pattern, so i suggest you to change this 02:07:050 (1,2,3) - into a slider + circle to keep consistency uhhh i think you meant 02:03:777 - - well i highly concentrae on the voaclas here and have sliderheads/ends on the most intense voacl parts
  8. Same here with 02:05:413 (1) - and 02:08:686 (1,2) - . I highly recommend you to change 02:08:686 (1,2) - into a long slider+circle. It really does fit better in my opinion. fixed here
  9. 02:16:868 (1) - You could end this on 02:18:231 - and add a circle on 02:18:504 - . There's a sound (02:18:231 - ) that is audible enough to not be skipped and it wouldn't be bad to emphasize it with the slider works well
  10. 02:21:231 (2,3,4) - This has literally zero rhythm in my opinion, you could use a better pattern like this. Personally i think that this would fit the vocals really good, at least better than now you totally right
  11. 02:49:595 (1) - Missing a hitsound already fixed but didnt upload :o
  12. 03:41:959 - Enable kiai on the BPM line and also fix the volume level on both lines (BPM line says 80% and green line, at the same time, says 75%) oups
  13. 03:50:686 (6) - Add NC too if you applied before. With this one you could make it flow better, moving the next circles to the left and making something like this made ot looking better
  14. 04:22:049 - As i said in the previous diff, i also recommend lowering the SV here to 0,75xwould work in an advance
  15. 04:26:959 (4) - You really should make this Slider+Circle. That end (04:27:504 - ) MUST be clickable, it's really loud and it's a critical sound to end the map.
fixed
This difficulty needs a lot of work on visuals, most of the slider shapes are really ugly. The rhythm is kinda repetitive on the kiais so it doesn't really follow the vocals correctly. But some patterns were really cool so i'm hoping that you will improve this diff

[- - Iceley's Hard- -]
  1. 00:15:777 (1) - This NC is kinda unnecessary, the rhyhm is the same and the vocals doesn't change at all, in any case you could just add it here instead 00:16:595 (4) - yea
  2. 00:17:413 (1) - As I can see you're mapping, it's not a bad idea shortening this slider until 00:17:686 - and adding a slider from 00:17:822 - to 00:17:959 - nah i wanna let this as it is , exspecially cause i use alot of 3/4 slider in this section
  3. 00:50:140 (3) - Add NC to keep consistency (you used a 2 combo lenght on 00:46:868 (1,2) - so it would be good if you do it again on the second time), It's true that the rhythm doesn't change that much as it does on 00:48:504 - but it still changes enough imo done ~
    /list]
    The kiais seems pretty neat, i like them. Nice collab

[- - Collab Insane - -]
  1. 00:16:595 (3,4,5) - This rhythm plays kinda bad because it's 4 repeats, and nobody expect 4 repeats. I think that using 3 repeats + 3 circles would fit a lot more better fixed
  2. 00:17:413 (1) - Missing hitsounds? uhhh yea
  3. 00:19:868 (2,3,4) - Here too, I think that 3 repeats + 3 circles would fit better same
  4. 00:52:595 (4) - Vocals starts here right? Adding NC wouldn't be a crazy thing yea i guess
  5. 00:57:231 - Unnecessary green line
  6. At least in this diff, the intensity is enough to add a kiai on 02:20:140 - imo. The previous diffs made it easier/not intense as the current kiais so it wasn't necessary, but on this diff this part is the same as the kiais so it would be consistent if you add it here. I understand that you didn't add kiai because the intensity of the song was less than the current kiais but here it's represented as intense so it may have a kiai i comment this in top diff
  7. 04:08:140 - I don't really know why did you make this part less intense than the kiais, i mean, if you hear you can hear the same sounds that you used for 03:44:413 (1,2,3) - this kind of patterns, but on every diff you did it as if that were slow and calm. I think that you might remap this into a coolest part (also emphasizing the epicness of the song, since this is clearly the best part of it) and add kiai at least, since as i said before, it's intense enough comment this already too ^^
  8. 04:22:049 (2) - Add NC i wouldnt do it cause it would conflict the nc pattern in 04:24:504 -

This is such a neat diff, i really like it, also you kept the concept from the last diff something that i was really impressed! Nice job :) this doesn't really need work at all, just some things but the diff is cool as fuck

[- - Final Judgement - -]
  1. 00:17:004 (4) - You kinda break the flow wiith this circle, at least move it a bit to the right. or use the same rhythm than here 00:19:868 (1,2,3,4,5) - to be consistent at least i wanted to implement the vocal so another rythm here - i changed a bit the placement for better flow
  2. 00:23:140 (1,2,3) - Why is this 00:23:140 (1) - the only slider without curve? They're suposed to be one pattern from the same rhythm as i can hear so i guess that you should've added a curve there too 1. - its consistend like 00:21:504 (1,2,3) - and i made the straight so i can make the heavy drum stand out a bit more - i didnt do it in the other parts like the chorus cause the DS is sloving the pattern otherwise (what here isnt possible with a 1/1 gap) (ok - to made it more consistend i used it in the whole first part
  3. 01:22:459 (6) - I'd move this circle a bit (somewhere like x:87 y:29). The current pattern makes a really open jump that isn't really comfortable to play and can cause a lot of unnecessary chokes. ik where you gettin at - moved it to 51 66
  4. 01:51:231 (2) - This is just a visual suggestion, but isn't this way too curved? I guess removing a bit of the curve won't make it worse i didnt even noticed that it was this curved lol
  5. 02:37:050 (3) - hmm, i've been wondering while playing but, What about doing Ctrl+G on this? It might look kinda weird in the editor but try playing and give me your thoughts nah i dont like that suggestion this much and it kinda breaks my "rolling" gimmick in the chorus
  6. 03:12:777 (2) - You could add NC here (and similar parts) because here's where the vocal starts. Yeah, there will remain a circle with 1 combo but since this is a calm part and there's not too much spacing between them i don't see i bad idk but i did this and it just looks wierd - maybe ill do this when more ppl sugesting this but for now i let this how it is
  7. 03:28:731 (4) - This circle is pretty confusing and hard to see, maybe it should be stacked with 03:28:595 (3) - i uhh "kinda" fixed that part
  8. 03:32:686 (1,2,3,4) - I feel that the sliders are way too long for what they're, I think that you should lower the SV here just a bit players will abuse slider linency here so i dont think that this is too much
  9. 03:41:959 - You're using 75% volume on your BPM line and 100% on your green line, please decide and fix fixed
  10. 03:45:231 (1) - This slider shape is really weird, i suggest just using a simple curve here (changing exact this slider the 5th time :D)
  11. 04:08:140 - I wont repeat the same, just read what i wrote in the Collab Insane diff about this part sooo - idk about this one - ik that this part is epic but imo its lot of calmer than the kiais - ill talk with the other participants of the collab what they think on this suggestion - ill decide thenn^^
  12. 04:23:686 (4) - Add NC i dont think nc (in both suggestions) would be nice cause ill NC per pattern here and 04:22:868 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - / 04:24:504 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - is one pattern
  13. 04:23:686 (4,1) - Stacking them wouldn't be bad this was stacked at first idk what happened here but fixed
  14. 04:26:959 (4) - Add NC

Wow! The visuals have some flaws and these things but the concept is really good! So fun to play :)
This took me like 3-4 hours, but i think that it's worth, Good luck on ranking!
Thank you very much for your mod - was a really huge one :D
tatemae

RevengeZ wrote:

[- - Iceley's Hard- -]
  1. 01:12:777 (5) - I suggest you to move this a bit like in x:412 y:340 so the spacing gap between it and the next slider isn't too highbut I have made intentionally so that the interval seemed high
  2. 01:13:050 (1) - You used a reverse slider here, and then, for the same rhythm you used 01:14:686 (1,2,3) - a Slider+circle+slider pattern. It doesn't really changes enough to make the pattern different imo, so i suggest you to change the second one into a reverse slider (because it fits better) to keep consistency 01:15:095 (2) - clap, 01:13:731 (2) - not clap
  3. 01:19:595 (1,1) - Snap these two? That overlap might be confusing for the player since the whole circle is hidden by the previous slider at such ar it is better to avoid stacks..if I have correctly understood you
  4. 01:31:050 - You should add a circle with NC here (but don't add a break between this and the previous circle, so it emphasizes the vocals). The break must start there, the song claims for it, so ignoring it would feel kinda empty or misstimed for the player yes, I haven't made so because I was lazy, fixed
  5. 01:44:959 (1) - Remove unnecessarry NC, the rhythm nor the vocals doesn't change too much imo ya
  6. 01:59:686 (1) - Change this into a slider+circle to keep consistency with 01:58:049 (1,2) - these are the different moments, they shouldn't be consistency
  7. 02:05:140 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - This feels more like a "3 - 4" combo for me. Also this 02:05:959 (4,1,2,3) - would be already part of a pattern (in terms of note placement) I have put to nc because of a new vocal here to show 1/1 rhythms circles, and it more aesthetically looks.
  8. 02:08:413 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - Same thing here
  9. 02:18:504 (1,3) - Just for visuals, stack these two (nothing really relevant)
  10. 03:41:959 - Add kiai on the BPM line ya

The kiais seems pretty neat, i like them. Nice collab
thanks!!
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Fushimi Rio

RevengeZ wrote:

[- - Collab Insane - -]
  1. 01:19:595 (1,2,3) - I guess you should do here what you did on 01:18:777 (1,2,3) - . I mean, the sliders should be the same than the one from before, i don't really know how to explain it but i hope that you'll understand, basically i mean converting the second triangle into this
    nope, keeping consistency is just a kind of personal taste, and it still works well now
  2. 01:21:163 (4) - This circle is barely barely visible, You should make it more visible imo, it could be confusing for the player
    rhythm is predictable here, it won't be a serious problem
  3. 01:23:686 (1) - I suggest you to convert this into 3 circles so it isn't the same than 01:24:504 (1,1) - that are from a different part
    changed
  4. 01:30:231 (5) - Add NC? it becomes different here not really necessary
  5. Remove unnecessary green lines: removed
    01:30:436 - // 01:30:504 -
    01:30:709 - // 01:30:777 -
    01:30:981 -
  6. 01:53:140 (1) - This NC is kinda unnecessary, isn't it? The rhythm doesn't change nor the vocals does so i guess that you don't need it
  7. At least in this diff, the intensity is enough to add a kiai on 02:20:140 - imo. The previous diffs made it easier/not intense as the current kiais so it wasn't necessary, but on this diff this part is the same as the kiais so it would be consistent if you add it here. I understand that you didn't add kiai because the intensity of the song was less than the current kiais but here it's represented as intense so it may have a kiai
    fixed
  8. 02:56:140 - You should add a break after this and end it 02:58:322 - (i don't know if you know since i learned it later on mapping, but you can move the break and these things), it would emphasize more the next circle imo I think so
  9. 03:03:231 (5) - This circle should be a bit more to the right i guess no it's on the correct position now
  10. 03:06:777 (1,1) - It isn't visible while playing but it's noticeable, this overlap shouldn't be like that, maybe you can move this 03:07:595 (1,2) - a bit to the left so it overlaps in a better way you won't notice it while playing, right?
  11. 03:12:504 (1,2,3,4,5) - The rhythm changes here and the vocals start being louder, this doesn't represents too much what we can hear in the song actually, so you should follow the vocals imo. I'm talking about the whole part, not only that stream (03:19:050 (1,2,3,4,5) - )
    from song's general organization, this part should be as simple as possible so it doesn't need fully representation here
  12. 03:17:413 (1) - The thing from above includes changing this into a long slider ^
  13. 03:25:868 - Why is a break? It doesn't really make too much sense, there are a lot of sounds and voices that you could use to emphasize the epicness of this 03:37:050 - moment yeah I used offset-break here to represent it, has no idea where it has gone...
  14. 03:41:959 - Add the kiai on the BPM Line fixed
  15. 03:47:549 (4,3) - Since you stacked 03:47:413 (3,1) - i think that you should also stack this two fixed
  16. 04:08:140 - I don't really know why did you make this part less intense than the kiais, i mean, if you hear you can hear the same sounds that you used for 03:44:413 (1,2,3) - this kind of patterns, but on every diff you did it as if that were slow and calm. I think that you might remap this into a coolest part (also emphasizing the epicness of the song, since this is clearly the best part of it) and add kiai at least, since as i said before, it's intense enough I think so...
  17. 04:22:049 (2) - Add NC

This is such a neat diff, i really like it, also you kept the concept from the last diff something that i was really impressed! Nice job :) this doesn't really need work at all, just some things but the diff is cool as fuck[/notice]
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Title:Katayoku no Tori
TitleUnicode:片翼の鳥
Artist:Shikata Akiko
ArtistUnicode:志方あきこ
Creator:IceKalt
Version:Collab Insane
Source:うみねこのなく頃に
Tags:japanese blue 古戸 ヱリカ furudo erika umineko no naku koro ni sakurauchi riko imoutosan fushimi_rio loreley
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1,252,224686,2,0,P|24:284|58:305,1,80,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
6,175,224958,2,0,P|-3:213|1:252,1,80,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
209,111,225231,6,0,P|159:51|82:45,1,160,14|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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451,230,226595,2,0,P|442:268|417:299,1,80,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
231,81,226868,6,0,L|272:246,1,160,14|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
319,53,227277,1,8,0:0:0:0:
158,178,227413,1,8,0:0:0:0:
338,130,227549,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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338,130,228231,1,8,0:0:0:0:
158,178,228368,1,0,0:0:0:0:
283,317,228504,6,0,P|357:337|434:306,1,160,14|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
432,308,228913,1,8,0:0:0:0:
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156,85,229867,2,0,P|170:129|164:162,1,80,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
1,312,230140,6,0,P|-1:265|92:235,1,160,14|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
90,233,230549,1,8,0:0:0:0:
335,345,230686,2,0,P|377:324|396:296,1,80,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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359,199,231709,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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260,157,240368,1,8,0:0:0:0:
338,6,240504,1,8,0:0:0:0:
174,106,240640,1,2,0:0:0:0:
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372,329,241595,6,0,P|313:278|237:294,1,160,14|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
158,359,242004,1,8,0:0:0:0:
239,179,242140,1,8,0:0:0:0:
239,179,242277,1,2,0:0:0:0:
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20,302,244459,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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282,237,244799,1,0,0:0:0:0:
260,202,244868,6,0,P|270:278|363:311,1,160,14|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
421,251,245277,1,8,0:0:0:0:
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486,200,245686,6,0,P|415:170|340:234,1,160,14|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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258,167,246913,1,8,0:0:0:0:
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490,291,249504,1,8,0:0:0:0:
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100,164,250868,1,2,0:0:0:0:
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225,137,251413,5,14,0:0:0:0:
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370,90,267504,5,14,0:0:0:0:
256,192,267572,12,0,272686,0:0:0:0:
-Rmdy
Hi

General
  1. You have different time signatures, make them the same on every diff


Rikoukz' Normal
  1. 00:10:868 (1) - there you changing rhythm to something more intense, but then we 00:12:504 (3) - this with pretty strong vocal on every white tick, which you didn't emphasized. You can either lover intensity by making 00:10:868 (1) - this slider like you did others (3/1 slider), or pick up intensity by dividing 00:12:504 (3) - this slider to 2 1/1 sliders
  2. 00:10:868 (1,2) - this may be confusing for beginners, as when reverse hits, 2 is already appearing, and it's placed like it will go off right after reverse. You should also consider that slider mechanic is pretty new to beginners, especially reverses. Consider moving 00:12:231 (2) - somewhere around 24:216, and if you do, you might aswell rotate 00:10:868 (1) - by 180 and ctrl+g for better flow
  3. I didn't quite picked up what you were following in the intro. I mean, all these 00:02:140 - gaps have a vocal and a drum on it, so I don't see why you making a pause here, it's rather confusing for beginners (actually not only for beginners). I encourage you to fill these gaps with either 1/1 sliders, or 2 circles, both should work fine on easy normal
  4. 00:27:777 (2,3) - ctrl+g would make much more sense, since 00:28:050 - this vocal is pretty strong
  5. Again, I can understand 00:29:959 - this gap, there is no vocal. But 00:31:595 - this have vocal, and probably should be emphasized. This problem may be seen throght all the diff, as far as I noticed. On low difficulties try paying more attention to something one in the music (e.g vocals or drums), and emphasize it as best as you can.
  6. 00:32:959 (5) - just a circle here will emphasize vocals more
  7. 02:46:322 (1,1,1,1) - spinners are hard for beginners too. These are pretty short, and have a very small gap between them, so maybe it's better to make one big spinner
  8. 02:54:504 - why exactly this break starts on the bookmark and not on big white tick?
  9. I noticed you have a lot of different fancy sliders (which isn't bad by itself), but in easy you should be more careful with these thing. As I said earlier, sliders are new for beginners, and by making them fancy you make it even harder for them. (by fancy sliders I mean 02:11:959 (3) - 03:41:959 (1) - 03:55:049 (1) - )


Advanced
  1. 01:04:868 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - since you introducing jumps, maybe it's worth using them a bit more? eg for strong vocals like 01:11:413 (1) - this
  2. 02:16:868 (1) - pretty bold slider for advanced, I would recommend to not use such sliderarts for low diffs, since it may be pretty hard for beginners
  3. 02:26:686 (1,2,3) - 02:40:595 (2,3) - maybe make a jump here too, since you did in first kiai
  4. 03:37:050 - maybe make it clickable, there is a drum here. Since start of spinner doesn't give any impact, you can put circle here, and start spinner on bear later
  5. Generally this diff is not very aesthetically pleasant. But if I would mention every aethetic thing for this diff there would be a very huge wall of text, and generally I don't think that aethetics are mod worthy. So if you want to go over them just pm me anytime you see me ingame


Iceley's Hard
  1. 00:17:004 (2) - this note feels a bit unnecessary. While 00:16:595 (1) - this follows high pitch piano(?) sounds, and 00:17:140 (3) - this follows vocals, then 00:17:004 (2) - there is no important sound for this circle. So it's better to make a pause here. 00:20:277 (5) - same
  2. 00:37:050 (1,2,3) - xO I like it
  3. 00:57:231 (1) - 03:40:800 - make it consistent
  4. 01:26:550 - this is pretty strong vocal, so maybe it would be better to move slider here, and then 01:26:822 - here not stacking with next slider
  5. 01:53:686 (3) - this triple follows nothing, just make it 1/2 slider
  6. 02:04:595 (3) - maybe make it like in the begining with two 1/2 sliders on strong vocals. For consistency. 02:03:777 (1,2) - and maybe add a jump here, ctrl+g on 2nd slider should work, try this or this. 02:07:050 (1,2,3) - same, I would recommend something like this here
  7. 02:10:050 (3) - 02:14:140 (2) - 02:15:640 (5) - where are these coming from, seriously. While the whole map trying to prioritize vocals - 02:13:595 (1,2,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3) - this part fails to do so. 02:14:004 - 02:14:822 - there is vocals, and 02:14:277 - 02:14:277 - there is nothing to follow. 02:15:640 (5) - there nothing on reverse too. 02:16:050 (1,2) - and on these reverses too. Just follow vocals as you did the whole map before (and don't emphasize imaginary sounds)
  8. 02:29:140 (4) - move this slider a bit to the left, it's a bit confusing when it completely overlaps previous slider
  9. 03:28:050 (2) - 03:29:686 (1) - 03:34:595 (1) - 03:36:231 (2) - make consistent NCs


Collab Insane

  • Cool contept
  1. 01:21:163 (4) - this is pretty hidden, try moving 01:20:959 (3) - a bit to the right, should be better
  2. 03:02:686 (1,2,3,4,5) - I don't think that you should emphasize them like that. I mean, these sounds that you trying to emphasize here are in the whole part as background, and these aren't any stronger than 03:04:322 (1,2) - these for example, hence they should be emphasized like this. Same goes for whole part


Final Judgement
  1. 00:41:686 (1,1) - don't make them overlap like this, it's confusing. Stack 00:41:959 (1) - sliderend with 00:41:686 (1) - sliderstart, or move 00:41:959 (1) - a bit out of 00:41:686 (1) - (like a bit to the right)
  2. 01:44:140 (1) - maybe make it 1/2 slider, since there is somewhat fasr vocal
  3. 02:05:413 (1,2) - I think it would be great to make something like this, since these vocals are kinda similar to 01:59:686 (4,5,6) - these things
    Great diff
Topic Starter
Icekalt

-Rmdy wrote:

Hi

General
  1. You have different time signatures, make them the same on every diff



This diff is Banana - i guess i will remap everything ~ sorry for not answering the suggestions ><
Advanced
  1. 01:04:868 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - since you introducing jumps, maybe it's worth using them a bit more? eg for strong vocals like 01:11:413 (1) - this
  2. 02:16:868 (1) - pretty bold slider for advanced, I would recommend to not use such sliderarts for low diffs, since it may be pretty hard for beginners
  3. 02:26:686 (1,2,3) - 02:40:595 (2,3) - maybe make a jump here too, since you did in first kiai
  4. 03:37:050 - maybe make it clickable, there is a drum here. Since start of spinner doesn't give any impact, you can put circle here, and start spinner on bear later
  5. Generally this diff is not very aesthetically pleasant. But if I would mention every aethetic thing for this diff there would be a very huge wall of text, and generally I don't think that aethetics are mod worthy. So if you want to go over them just pm me anytime you see me ingame


Iceley's Hard
  1. 00:17:004 (2) - this note feels a bit unnecessary. While 00:16:595 (1) - this follows high pitch piano(?) sounds, and 00:17:140 (3) - this follows vocals, then 00:17:004 (2) - there is no important sound for this circle. So it's better to make a pause here. 00:20:277 (5) - same yea - i wanted to do it as filler rythm but pasue would follow music better
  2. 00:37:050 (1,2,3) - xO I like it thanks ><
  3. 02:29:140 (4) - move this slider a bit to the left, it's a bit confusing when it completely overlaps previous sliderfixed ~


    Final Judgement
    1. 00:41:686 (1,1) - don't make them overlap like this, it's confusing. Stack 00:41:959 (1) - sliderend with 00:41:686 (1) - sliderstart, or move 00:41:959 (1) - a bit out of 00:41:686 (1) - (like a bit to the right) did
    2. 01:44:140 (1) - maybe make it 1/2 slider, since there is somewhat fasr vocal nah - idont like how that looks like - the consistency is gone then too idk - i just dont like the idea ~
    3. 02:05:413 (1,2) - I think it would be great to make something like this, since these vocals are kinda similar to 01:59:686 (4,5,6) - these things i wanna emphasize 02:05:413 - as intense as possible - and doing it like you say would reduce the intensity - it looks fine atm
      Great diff
Sakurauchi Riko

RevengeZ wrote:

DO NOT GIVE KUDOSU TO THIS POST
(because i'm not the one modding it)

Lince Cosmico wrote:

[- - General - -]
  • - You have some unsnap and sv lines issues that i'lll point on each diff
    - Disable Widescreen Support, as i can see you're not using any Storyboard and the background fits both screens (wide and 800x600) so there's no point on having it enabled.
    - Add "Umineko no Naku Koro ni" (it's the romanization of the Source)

[- - Rikoukz' Normal - -]
  1. 00:04:322 (1) - If you think, this represents sounds from the same part that the previous notes, so i'd recommend you to remove NC here and add it on 00:05:959 (3) - so the NC actually represents the song. If you keep your current NC and add one more to this one, then 00:04:322 (1,2) - this combo would be too short
  2. 00:10:868 (1) - // 00:12:504 (3) - Here too, You should do the same NC pattern than above (for the same reasons)
  3. 00:10:868 (1) - Also, on this part, Why did you use a repeat slider? This sounds exactly like 00:04:322 (1) - . It could be fine if there was any rhythm progression but there isn't (because it's the only two times that the sound appears), so I think that it would be better to use a long slider OR a repeat slider on the previous one, to keep consistency
  4. 00:27:231 (1) - Is this NC really needed? It's part of the same rhythm section 00:26:413 (1,1,2,3,4,5) -
  5. 00:32:959 (5) - Why don't you extend this to 00:33:504 - ? It would fit the vocals a lot better than now. Obviouslly the spacing of the next object will have to be changed but it's not a big deal
  6. 00:41:686 - I'd add a circle here (with NC included) to add emphasis to 00:41:959 (3) - , the current rhythm is pretty weird and a Normal difficulty player wouldn't expect it imo. As i said the NC thing i'll explain it a bit, because you could just say "But you said before that a 2 combo lenght would be short", yes, but in this case you're following something that only covers a small piece of rhythtm that is pretty singular and special, so it won't be bad to add NC to emphasize it correctly
  7. 00:43:322 - You should add a circle here, it feels empty in my opinion. Also, you did it afterwards on 00:46:595 (5) - , so to keep consistency i'd recommend you to add it i'd like to have 2/1 beat gap to emphasize the strong downbeat with special sounds, i did circle afterwards because there isnt the strong downbeat anymore
  8. 00:44:959 - Here it happens again, I highly recommend you to add a circle here and put NC on it using the same reasons from above
  9. 00:53:413 (1) - This is just a visual suggestion, but can you move the last anchor of this slider a bit up? or at least fix the circle form (unless it's done like that on purpose) because it feels a bit ugly, but as i said, this is just a suggestion i really like the visuals of this slider
  10. 00:57:231 - Remove this unnecesary green line
  11. 01:10:322 (4) - This really does feel weird while playing, I think that you should just use a Circle+Slider pattern like this (timeline) and this (playfield sample)
  12. 01:17:686 - It wouldn't play bad if you add a circle here, it would emphasize the next slider in a cool way imo. Also, you added it on future parts (02:39:504 (4) - and 04:01:322 (4) - ) so it would be inconsistent if you don't add it
  13. 01:24:231 - It's not an issue, but i'm not sure if you're using it for 01:24:504 (1) - or not, If that's the case, could you move it to 01:24:504 - to avoid confusing with future modders?
  14. 01:24:504 (1,2,3) - For this pattern, I feel like it's not really emphasizing the map correctly, as i can hear, following vocals would be the right choice. I'll suggest this pattern for that part, it looks kinda messy but it fits the vocals perfectly and it isn't hard to play. Also, it would be placed just before a break so it would be well placed too.
  15. 02:05:140 - Same thing from before (you already know what i'm talking about so i don't have to repeat all)
    02:08:413 - Here too
  16. 02:32:140 (4) - This has the same rhythm than 01:10:322 - so you might change this here too with the pattern that i suggested before (if you applied it)
  17. 03:01:050 (2) - The spacing here feels kinda too high, even if there's that much of time difference it feels really big. DS should be all consistent in lowest diff, so i have to make such big distance ..
  18. 03:41:942 (1) - This note is unsnapped, you might snap it again
  19. 03:53:959 (4) - You should use the same rhythm that i said before (01:10:322 - // 02:32:140 (4) -)
  20. 04:01:595 (1,2,3) - Why did you switch shapes on this part? In the whole map you used a Curvy Shape first and then two Straight Shapes, but here you did it in reverse, you used a Straight Shape and then two Curvy Shapes. I suggest you to do it as you did before to keep consistency
  21. 04:04:186 - Remove this unnecessary green line
  22. 04:21:231 - You should make SV a bit lower here, since the part is too much calm and it's also after a "hard" part. I suggest you to put 0,75x dont think sv change in lowest diff is recommended .. i wanna avoid it

Really good diff, pretty neat, there are some ugly shapes but meh, nothing really bad on this diff.

-Rmdy wrote:

Hi

Rikoukz' Normal
  1. 00:10:868 (1) - there you changing rhythm to something more intense, but then we 00:12:504 (3) - this with pretty strong vocal on every white tick, which you didn't emphasized. You can either lover intensity by making 00:10:868 (1) - this slider like you did others (3/1 slider), or pick up intensity by dividing 00:12:504 (3) - this slider to 2 1/1 sliders
  2. 00:10:868 (1,2) - this may be confusing for beginners, as when reverse hits, 2 is already appearing, and it's placed like it will go off right after reverse. You should also consider that slider mechanic is pretty new to beginners, especially reverses. Consider moving 00:12:231 (2) - somewhere around 24:216, and if you do, you might aswell rotate 00:10:868 (1) - by 180 and ctrl+g for better flow
  3. I didn't quite picked up what you were following in the intro. I mean, all these 00:02:140 - gaps have a vocal and a drum on it, so I don't see why you making a pause here, it's rather confusing for beginners (actually not only for beginners). I encourage you to fill these gaps with either 1/1 sliders, or 2 circles, both should work fine on easy normal the non-mapped white ticks are fairly weak compared to the other ones i mapped, it is the lowest difficulty so i dont want a train of 1/1 gaps expeically in the intro, too
  4. 00:27:777 (2,3) - ctrl+g would make much more sense, since 00:28:050 - this vocal is pretty strong
  5. Again, I can understand 00:29:959 - this gap, there is no vocal. But 00:31:595 - this have vocal, and probably should be emphasized. This problem may be seen throght all the diff, as far as I noticed. On low difficulties try paying more attention to something one in the music (e.g vocals or drums), and emphasize it as best as you can.
  6. 00:32:959 (5) - just a circle here will emphasize vocals more but vocal is "holding" so slider fits better imo
  7. 02:46:322 (1,1,1,1) - spinners are hard for beginners too. These are pretty short, and have a very small gap between them, so maybe it's better to make one big spinnereither way you spin the same amount, beginner wont get 100's on the spinners auto gets 6k (now more than 6k since i erxtended them to red tick) so it will be enough time to spin the given amount
  8. 02:54:504 - why exactly this break starts on the bookmark and not on big white tick?
  9. I noticed you have a lot of different fancy sliders (which isn't bad by itself), but in easy you should be more careful with these thing. As I said earlier, sliders are new for beginners, and by making them fancy you make it even harder for them. (by fancy sliders I mean 02:11:959 (3) - 03:41:959 (1) - 03:55:049 (1) - ) tried to be as straightforward as possible, so no selfoverlaps (only very slight) and such - i think it is ok but I understand your concern, ill see if it turns out to be a problem
thank you both of you for mods! :)
unmentioned fixed obviosuly!!


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tatemae
@rmdy
fixed nc
fixed 1 triple, others follow music, its fine
01:26:550 (3,4) - and fixed this
thanks for mod
osu file format v14

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TitleUnicode:片翼の鳥
Artist:Shikata Akiko
ArtistUnicode:志方あきこ
Creator:IceKalt
Version:Iceley's Hard
Source:うみねこのなく頃に
Tags:japanese blue 古戸 ヱリカ furudo erika umineko no naku koro ni sakurauchi riko imoutosan fushimi_rio loreley
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Fushimi Rio

-Rmdy wrote:

Collab Insane

  • Cool contept
  1. 01:21:163 (4) - this is pretty hidden, try moving 01:20:959 (3) - a bit to the right, should be better actually intended to, will consider if more ppl complain about it
  2. 03:02:686 (1,2,3,4,5) - I don't think that you should emphasize them like that. I mean, these sounds that you trying to emphasize here are in the whole part as background, and these aren't any stronger than 03:04:322 (1,2) - these for example, hence they should be emphasized like this. Same goes for whole part emphasizing vocal isn't a good idea, considering the whole map's structure it should be a rather simple part here
egg and cheese
14:56 IceKalt: o/
14:56 HighTec: \o
14:56 IceKalt: wanna do a irc4m?
14:57 HighTec: i dont have anything that needs to be modded rn lol
14:57 IceKalt: than maybe ticket?
14:57 IceKalt: cause i dont wanna ask someone for irc
14:57 IceKalt: for like nothing
14:58 IceKalt: but its fine when not ~
14:58 HighTec: yaknow what
14:58 HighTec: depends on song
14:58 IceKalt: its this (you prolly know that already)
14:59 *IceKalt is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1312305 Shikata Akiko - Katayoku no Tori]
14:59 HighTec: no i dont
14:59 HighTec: i dont read mentorshipt
15:01 *HighTec is playing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1312305 Shikata Akiko - Katayoku no Tori [Final Judgement]]
15:07 IceKalt: this miss :x
15:07 HighTec: man i really hated stuff like 01:02:686 (5,6) -
15:07 HighTec: i really loved the idea of going in the same circular motion with your cursor
15:07 HighTec: but seeing you break the idea here makes me sad
15:07 IceKalt: o
15:07 IceKalt: yea i should rework that
15:08 HighTec: like i think if you want to change movement direction
15:08 IceKalt: but im happy that you saw my idea behind the diff
15:08 HighTec: you should do it on places like 01:03:231 (1) -
15:08 HighTec: cause those have a lot of emphasis in the song so it'd only make sense to do something different with the movement there
15:08 IceKalt: yea
15:08 HighTec: 01:08:140 (1) - like this could break movement too to prevent repetivity
15:08 HighTec: same for 01:09:777 (1) -
15:09 HighTec: makes me have to sit more up straight in my chair and focus
15:09 IceKalt: lol
15:09 IceKalt: but you are right
15:10 HighTec: 01:14:413 (6,7) - also feels way too linear for the section, would try something [https://gabepower.s-ul.eu/f9X9YHOa like this] instead
15:10 HighTec: so centre (7) in the triangle of 01:15:095 (2,3,4) -
15:10 IceKalt: yea pretty nice
15:11 HighTec: 00:40:322 (1,1,1,2) - would be nice if these were a little faster and maybe only leave 1/4 gaps after them instead of just 00:40:731 (1) -
15:11 HighTec: to put more heavy empahsis on the difference between the sets of vocals
15:12 IceKalt: i guess i would make 00:40:731 (1) - faster then
15:12 HighTec: if you want the emphasis there
15:12 HighTec: yes do that
15:13 HighTec: it didnt feel as notable as you'd probably want during gameplay
15:13 HighTec: 01:47:413 (1,2,3) - also major emphasis difference in pattern compared to 01:46:595 (1,2,3) -
15:13 HighTec: in 01:46:595 (1,2,3) - the (3) also gets a lot of emphasis due to the spacing being double that from 01:46:595 (1,2) -
15:14 HighTec: but in 01:47:413 (1,2,3) - , 01:47:959 (3) - gets the same emphasis as 01:47:686 (2) - which feels strange to me
15:14 IceKalt: hm
15:15 IceKalt: i just did it so it wpuldnt feel repetative
15:15 IceKalt: i didnt thought about that it is such a difference
15:15 HighTec: w
15:16 IceKalt: ill change that now ^^
15:16 HighTec: !
15:16 HighTec: 01:52:322 (1,2,3) - maybe do something [https://gabepower.s-ul.eu/OX12GytZ like this] instead cuz it looks rly messy rn
15:17 IceKalt: yea
15:17 HighTec: 02:03:777 (1,1,1,2,3) - same point as mentioned before btw
15:17 IceKalt: already changed
15:18 HighTec: cool
15:18 HighTec: 02:20:140 (1) - wait wheres kiai for this section
15:19 IceKalt: i deleated it
15:19 HighTec: but why
15:19 HighTec: feels weird to have 1st kiai be a thing while this is the same
15:19 IceKalt: cause many said that the kiai length were to big
15:19 HighTec: then delete the first too
15:19 HighTec: to have consistency
15:19 IceKalt: hm
15:19 IceKalt: the first one is good compareable to the 3rd
15:19 IceKalt: but the second is alot weaker
15:20 HighTec: hm tru i guess
15:20 IceKalt: i mapped it like this too
15:20 HighTec: it just feels weird xd
15:20 IceKalt: like i mapped the second one more vocal than the others
15:21 IceKalt: 02:36:231 (7,1) - i guess theese are the flow breaks i should go with
15:21 HighTec: 02:28:322 (1,2,3) - these feel really linear, since the sliders dont force movement you get more a playing thing of [https://gabepower.s-ul.eu/VRY5e9Gv this] instead of people making the ciruclar movement
15:21 HighTec: yea thats the flow breaks u need
15:21 HighTec: 02:37:595 (5) - would be cool to rotate this slider up a bit so it catches the movement from 02:37:322 (4) - better
15:21 IceKalt: yea
15:22 IceKalt: i guess i could do that
15:22 HighTec: 03:17:413 (1,2) - this is not properly blanketed
15:23 IceKalt: oups
15:23 IceKalt: :D
15:23 HighTec: 03:32:686 (1,2,3,4) - idk if intentional but these are way harder to hit than 03:26:140 (1,2,3,4) -
15:23 HighTec: for movement reasons
15:24 IceKalt: ill change theese then when they are too hard
15:24 IceKalt: cause yours wasnt the only complain i got there
15:24 HighTec: compared to each other it's just a big difference
15:25 HighTec: i guess the rest repeats itself
15:25 IceKalt: nerfed it
15:25 IceKalt: yea
15:26 IceKalt: thanks you ^^
15:26 IceKalt: you can post it ^^
15:26 HighTec: np!
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