Shikata Akiko - Katayoku no Tori

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Icekalt
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Mittwoch, 14. Februar 2018 at 12:57:04

Artist: Shikata Akiko
Title: Katayoku no Tori
Source: うみねこのなく頃に
Tags: opening japanese blue 古戸 ヱリカ furudo erika umineko no naku koro ni sakurauchi_riko phyloukz imoutosan fushimi_rio loreley namki italian 波乃 渉 namino wataru
BPM: 220
Filesize: 10423kb
Play Time: 04:32
Difficulties Available:
  1. Final Judgment (5,57 stars, 798 notes)
  2. Lore & Ice's Hard (3,36 stars, 585 notes)
  3. Namki & Ice's Advanced (2,46 stars, 376 notes)
  4. Riko & Phyl's Normal (1,8 stars, 285 notes)
  5. Rio & Ice's Insane (4,34 stars, 646 notes)


Download: Shikata Akiko - Katayoku no Tori
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Sliderheavy Map with tricky Overlaps





Collab Normal by Sakurauchi Riko and Phyloukz
Collab Advanced by Namki and Me (R.I.P Kanan)
Collab Hard by Loreley and Me
Collab Insane by Fushimi Rio (imoutosan) and Me
Extra (Final Judgement) by Me

~Have Fun~


Check out short version of the song made by Rakuen: Shikata Akiko - Katayoku no Tori

Thanks to: Touhou for huge help with timing and hitsounds (theese samples are amazing :o)
Celektus for the Banner, mp3 and bitrate
Bor for being the timing-BN
Mir for uhh not being too annoyed by me
Sakurauchi Riko for the sliderart in the topdiff after 2nd chorus)
And ofc all Testplayer and Modders!


Insane+Hard
beginning to 00:56:678 - : Me
00:58:314 - to 02:20:132 - : GDer
02:20:132 - to 02:59:405 - : Me
02:59:405 - to 04:08:132 - : GDer
04:08:132 - to end : Me

Advance:
Namki did first and last Kiai
Bubble by - Frontier -
Heart by Doormat
Thank you guys!! :)
TheMefisto
2017-06-13 19:23 IceKalt: Hey~  are you busy atm?
2017-06-13 19:24 TheMefisto: Hi, not really
2017-06-13 19:24 IceKalt: you free for irc?
2017-06-13 19:25 TheMefisto: Yep, I guess
2017-06-13 19:25 IceKalt: do you know this map
2017-06-13 19:25 IceKalt: ACTION is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1312305 Shikata Akiko - Katayoku no Tori]
2017-06-13 19:26 TheMefisto: I know song, but not map xd
2017-06-13 19:26 IceKalt: i let a few mutals testplay back then
2017-06-13 19:31 TheMefisto: Map looks pretty good
2017-06-13 19:31 IceKalt: you found nothing yet? :D
2017-06-13 19:32 IceKalt: its great to have the ability to map what you like to play ^^
2017-06-13 19:32 IceKalt: in this one
2017-06-13 19:33 IceKalt: thats the first map im really satisfied
2017-06-13 19:33 TheMefisto: Well, I just go through the map and try to understand your ideas and structure
2017-06-13 19:34 TheMefisto: I have few thing that I can mention here
2017-06-13 19:34 IceKalt: k
2017-06-13 19:36 TheMefisto: First of all, these sections 00:41:931 (1,2,3,4,5,6) -
2017-06-13 19:36 TheMefisto: 00:45:203 (1,2,3,4) -
2017-06-13 19:37 TheMefisto: It's pretty... Intense
2017-06-13 19:37 TheMefisto: especially 1/2 circles
2017-06-13 19:38 IceKalt: you mean its too hard to play for the intensity of the song?
2017-06-13 19:38 TheMefisto: Compared to pretty same moment 02:05:385 (1,2,3) -
2017-06-13 19:38 TheMefisto: I mean this too intense, song doesn't really provide this 00:43:022 (4,5,6) - rhythm
2017-06-13 19:39 IceKalt: well this is vocal mapping there
2017-06-13 19:39 IceKalt: but i guess
2017-06-13 19:39 TheMefisto: Maybe 1/2 sliders would be better
2017-06-13 19:39 TheMefisto: Like here 02:09:203 (2,3,4,5) -
2017-06-13 19:40 IceKalt: or a reverse?
2017-06-13 19:40 TheMefisto: It's follows vocal, but not that "intense" like circles
2017-06-13 19:40 TheMefisto: Yep, or reverse
2017-06-13 19:40 TheMefisto: You can choose what emphasize vocal better in this case
2017-06-13 19:41 TheMefisto: Both 1/2 slider and reverse slider should work good
2017-06-13 19:41 IceKalt: mh reverse fits better
2017-06-13 19:41 IceKalt: 02:06:203 (3) -
2017-06-13 19:41 IceKalt: a bit like here - only 1/2
2017-06-13 19:42 IceKalt: 00:46:567 (4) -
2017-06-13 19:42 IceKalt: i or more like 00:46:294 (3,4) -
2017-06-13 19:42 TheMefisto: 00:42:749 (3,4,5,6) - you can also try to circle + 1/1 slider
2017-06-13 19:43 IceKalt: i think im doing it like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8335337
2017-06-13 19:43 IceKalt: so i can emphasis the strang sound on 00:46:567 (4) -
2017-06-13 19:43 TheMefisto: Yep, make sense
2017-06-13 19:44 IceKalt: 00:50:112 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - would you then critizise that too?
2017-06-13 19:44 IceKalt: because i think thats ok
2017-06-13 19:45 TheMefisto: No, thats good
2017-06-13 19:45 TheMefisto: 00:59:112 (4,5,6) -
2017-06-13 19:46 TheMefisto: here is pretty small spacing, coz noone actually draw slider to the end
2017-06-13 19:46 TheMefisto: But you make jump to this one 00:58:840 (3,4) -
2017-06-13 19:47 TheMefisto: Imo, this two sliders 00:59:385 (5,6) - deserve a jump too
2017-06-13 19:47 TheMefisto: There is pretty strong vocal on the head of sliders
2017-06-13 19:47 IceKalt: mhh
2017-06-13 19:47 TheMefisto: And the same drum sound
2017-06-13 19:48 IceKalt: uhh
2017-06-13 19:49 IceKalt: i need to think about this more
2017-06-13 19:49 TheMefisto: Yep, just keep it in mind
2017-06-13 19:49 IceKalt: you mean like only for 00:59:112 (4,5,6) - or for 01:00:749 (4,5,6) -01:04:022 (5,6,7) - etc?
2017-06-13 19:50 TheMefisto: 01:00:749 (4,5,6) - this too
2017-06-13 19:50 TheMefisto: But 01:04:022 (5,6,7) - this feels fine
2017-06-13 19:50 IceKalt: the thing is that i like to introduce the pattern in the beginning - then play with it later
2017-06-13 19:50 TheMefisto: There is no vocal and pretty equal jumps
2017-06-13 19:51 IceKalt: and this is like the main pattern i used for every refrain
2017-06-13 19:51 IceKalt: i'll keep that in mind
2017-06-13 19:51 IceKalt: but wont chnage it no
2017-06-13 19:51 IceKalt: w
2017-06-13 19:51 TheMefisto: Oh, ok
2017-06-13 19:52 TheMefisto: Next thing is 01:10:294 (3) -
2017-06-13 19:52 TheMefisto: DS here a bit weird
2017-06-13 19:53 TheMefisto: This pretty similar to 01:09:340 (5,6,7) -
2017-06-13 19:53 IceKalt: i agree with you
2017-06-13 19:53 IceKalt: but its hard to fix xD
2017-06-13 19:53 TheMefisto: But on this circle 01:10:294 (3) - we also have vocal sound "HAAAAAA"
2017-06-13 19:53 IceKalt: cause that would cause annoying overlap
2017-06-13 19:53 IceKalt: s
2017-06-13 19:54 TheMefisto: You can stack this to end of slider 01:09:749 (1) -
2017-06-13 19:54 IceKalt: HAAAA xD
2017-06-13 19:54 TheMefisto: And then move this 01:10:431 (4) - a bit
2017-06-13 19:54 TheMefisto: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8335414
2017-06-13 19:54 IceKalt: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8335416
2017-06-13 19:54 IceKalt: i did it like this - didnt see your one yet
2017-06-13 19:55 IceKalt: uh
2017-06-13 19:55 IceKalt: i like both xD
2017-06-13 19:55 TheMefisto: :^)
2017-06-13 19:55 TheMefisto: Btw, about this 00:59:112 (4,5,6) -
2017-06-13 19:55 IceKalt: ahh yours is perfect
2017-06-13 19:56 TheMefisto: 01:12:203 (4,5,6) - just look at this
2017-06-13 19:56 IceKalt: cause of overlap with this 01:10:567 (5) -
2017-06-13 19:56 TheMefisto: Thats similar sections, but in first case you don't make any jump
2017-06-13 19:56 TheMefisto: But in second case you did
2017-06-13 19:56 IceKalt: huh
2017-06-13 19:56 TheMefisto: 01:12:203 (4,5) -
2017-06-13 19:56 IceKalt: ahh
2017-06-13 19:57 IceKalt: kicked wrong one xD
2017-06-13 19:57 IceKalt: thats what i meant with playing with pattern
2017-06-13 19:57 IceKalt: but i guess the DS difference is too high
2017-06-13 19:58 TheMefisto: Yep
2017-06-13 19:58 IceKalt: would you suggest changing positions 5+6
2017-06-13 19:58 IceKalt: ahh
2017-06-13 19:59 IceKalt: i know why i did this
2017-06-13 19:59 TheMefisto: Well, that what you should do right now, I guess
2017-06-13 19:59 IceKalt: :D
2017-06-13 19:59 IceKalt: when i change 5+6 the ds would be too low
2017-06-13 19:59 TheMefisto: But you still can think about changing idea of this patterns
2017-06-13 19:59 IceKalt: 01:12:749 (6,1) - would be too low too
2017-06-13 19:59 TheMefisto: Yeah
2017-06-13 20:00 TheMefisto: I mean, every moments like 00:59:112 (4,5,6) - , 01:00:749 (4,5,6) - , 01:12:203 (4,5,6) - should have one idea
2017-06-13 20:01 TheMefisto: If you wont change 1 and 2 for now, you should change 3 (swaping 5 and 6, yeah)
2017-06-13 20:02 TheMefisto: Or you can add jump between 00:59:112 (4,5) - , 01:00:749 (4,5) -
2017-06-13 20:02 TheMefisto: And then keep 01:12:203 (4,5,6) - as it is
2017-06-13 20:03 IceKalt: ill change the placement on 01:11:931 (3,4,5,6) - atm
2017-06-13 20:05 IceKalt: well i changed the compleat placement of 01:12:203 (4,5,6,7,8,9) -
2017-06-13 20:05 IceKalt: that should be ok now
2017-06-13 20:06 TheMefisto: Nice
2017-06-13 20:07 IceKalt: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8335502 https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8335512
2017-06-13 20:08 TheMefisto: Next thing is 01:28:567 (1,2,3) - , I suggest reduse spacing here a bit, coz vocal starting to "fade" here (or something like "became weaker", idk)
2017-06-13 20:09 TheMefisto: Yep, should be fine
2017-06-13 20:11 IceKalt: done
2017-06-13 20:11 TheMefisto: I'm not sure about this 02:19:022 (1,2,3,4) -
2017-06-13 20:11 TheMefisto: I know what you want to do here, but
2017-06-13 20:11 IceKalt: how?
2017-06-13 20:12 IceKalt: i mean i wouldnt have a suggesten
2017-06-13 20:12 IceKalt: 00:57:203 (1,2,3,4) -
2017-06-13 20:12 IceKalt: wouldnt fit here
2017-06-13 20:12 TheMefisto: But it's different cases
2017-06-13 20:12 TheMefisto: 02:19:294 (2,3) - you made higher DS here to emphasize some clap sound on 02:19:567 (3) -
2017-06-13 20:12 IceKalt: lol
2017-06-13 20:13 TheMefisto: I mean
2017-06-13 20:13 IceKalt: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8335558
2017-06-13 20:13 IceKalt: i sould do sth like this?
2017-06-13 20:13 IceKalt: should?
2017-06-13 20:13 TheMefisto: Right
2017-06-13 20:13 TheMefisto: x)
2017-06-13 20:14 IceKalt: i guess that workes but ppl might get confused that this could be a 1/1 gap at first
2017-06-13 20:14 IceKalt: but idk that should work for the beginning
2017-06-13 20:15 TheMefisto: 02:20:112 (1) - Thats pretty strange, compare to these: 00:58:294 (1) - , 03:41:931 (1) -
2017-06-13 20:16 IceKalt: theres a WWUUSHHHH
2017-06-13 20:16 IceKalt: xD
2017-06-13 20:16 TheMefisto: You made 1/1 slider, then suddenly put 2/1 slider and then 1/1 slider again
2017-06-13 20:16 TheMefisto: Hm
2017-06-13 20:16 IceKalt: until 02:20:658 -
2017-06-13 20:16 IceKalt: 02:38:112 (1) - this?
2017-06-13 20:16 TheMefisto: Well, make sense, I guess
2017-06-13 20:17 IceKalt: this is to emphazise the really strong voice there
2017-06-13 20:17 TheMefisto: Hmmmmmmm
2017-06-13 20:17 IceKalt: well the 1st and 3rd refrain is like identical but this is different
2017-06-13 20:18 TheMefisto: You can same thing to this 01:17:931 (1) -
2017-06-13 20:18 TheMefisto: Extend to 01:18:340 -
2017-06-13 20:18 TheMefisto: Should fits vocal pretty nice
2017-06-13 20:19 IceKalt: well done
2017-06-13 20:20 TheMefisto: Anyway, this feels weird 02:21:749 (1,2) -
2017-06-13 20:20 TheMefisto: Maybe because you don't use same thing before
2017-06-13 20:21 TheMefisto: Also it ignore sound here 02:22:158 - and cover strong vocal with end of slider 02:22:294 -
2017-06-13 20:22 TheMefisto: Somethnig like "slider starts on weak sound and ends on strong"
2017-06-13 20:30 TheMefisto: I love bancho
2017-06-13 20:31 IceKalt: damn yea
2017-06-13 20:32 TheMefisto: I mentioned this moment 02:21:749 (1,2) -
2017-06-13 20:32 TheMefisto: And said that second slider has strong sound on the end and weaker sound on start
2017-06-13 20:32 TheMefisto: Vocal sound*, ye
2017-06-13 20:36 TheMefisto: Aaaaaaa
2017-06-13 20:37 IceKalt: :D
2017-06-13 20:37 IceKalt: thats kinda annoying xD
2017-06-13 20:38 TheMefisto: 02:21:749 (1,2) - hope you saw what I mention about this
2017-06-13 20:38 IceKalt: i already changed it xD
2017-06-13 20:38 TheMefisto: Also put NC on this sliders 02:46:294 (1,2,3,4) -
2017-06-13 20:39 TheMefisto: And maybe end this one 02:49:567 (3) - on red tick for consistency
2017-06-13 20:40 TheMefisto: You can add break between spinner and this circle 02:59:385 (1) - (Just for HP)
2017-06-13 20:40 TheMefisto: 03:36:885 (4,1) - And you can increase DS here, because of pretty strong sound
2017-06-13 20:41 TheMefisto: At least stronger than here 03:36:749 (3,4) -
2017-06-13 20:41 TheMefisto: So emphasize with jump would be good
2017-06-13 20:41 IceKalt: i agree with 03:36:749 (3,4) -
2017-06-13 20:41 IceKalt: but not with that slider sound - its different tbh
2017-06-13 20:41 IceKalt: "imo"
2017-06-13 20:42 TheMefisto: Okay
2017-06-13 20:42 IceKalt: welli keep it in mind when more ppl complain about this
2017-06-13 20:42 IceKalt: but added ncs
2017-06-13 20:42 TheMefisto: 03:55:840 (4,5,6) - and here is third variation of slider pattern
2017-06-13 20:43 TheMefisto: Jump between 03:56:112 (5,6) -
2017-06-13 20:43 IceKalt: changed
2017-06-13 20:44 TheMefisto: And last thing here 00:01:022 - xd
2017-06-13 20:49 TheMefisto: http://i.imgur.com/UdAR3oA.png
2017-06-13 20:49 TheMefisto: Conflicted volume
2017-06-13 20:49 TheMefisto: And that's all actually xd
2017-06-13 20:52 TheMefisto: I'll post log in the thread, if you don't mind
2017-06-13 20:53 IceKalt: lol
2017-06-13 20:53 IceKalt: who mind that
2017-06-13 20:53 TheMefisto: xd
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