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koan sound + asa - fuego (sakuraburst remix) [Taiko]

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Nifty
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This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Friday, November 10, 2017 at 12:35:41 AM

Artist: koan sound + asa
Title: fuego (sakuraburst remix)
Tags: neurofunk wub sanctuary ep
BPM: 200
Filesize: 3295kb
Play Time: 02:52
Difficulties Available:
  1. Embers Oni (4.76 stars, 776 notes)
  2. Futsuu (2.49 stars, 338 notes)
  3. Kantan (1.75 stars, 206 notes)
  4. Muzukashii (3.17 stars, 543 notes)
  5. Oni (3.72 stars, 675 notes)
Download: koan sound + asa - fuego (sakuraburst remix)
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Chromoxx
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Chromoxx
quik irc :D

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2017-08-21 05:40 Nifty: still open for one?
2017-08-21 05:40 Chromoxx: ye
2017-08-21 05:40 Nifty: I'm mostly concerned on the futsuu
2017-08-21 05:40 Nifty: ACTION is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1311783 KOAN Sound & Asa - fuego (sakuraburst remix)]
2017-08-21 05:41 Nifty: having a hard time finding which sounds to emphasize and which to leave alone
2017-08-21 05:41 Chromoxx: ok
2017-08-21 06:38 Nifty: is chromoxx kill
2017-08-21 06:39 Chromoxx: tired af
2017-08-21 06:39 Chromoxx: taking a bit of a break before continuing
2017-08-21 06:39 Nifty: understandable
2017-08-21 06:39 Nifty: I modded that china map too
2017-08-21 06:40 Chromoxx: nah i'm just tired after 2 weeks of tourism xD
2017-08-21 06:40 Nifty: touring japan?
2017-08-21 06:41 Chromoxx: ye
2017-08-21 06:42 Nifty: my bro went to japan for 2 weeks yuh, he just likes to wash his hands in the shrines
2017-08-21 07:46 Nifty: so maybe we can do an irc sometime later if you're that tired? or not, I can get someone else to look at it too
2017-08-21 07:54 Chromoxx: sure we can
2017-08-21 07:54 Chromoxx: in an hour or so if ur good
2017-08-21 07:55 Chromoxx: or i can just forum post
2017-08-21 07:55 Nifty: I feel like irc would be better because my errors are usually general
2017-08-21 07:56 Nifty: don't get much from forum posts and it'll be midnight in an hour so I think I can
2017-08-21 07:58 Nifty: bu im gonna go to laptop I'll be on in an hour :P
2017-08-21 09:06 Nifty: if you're ready ^^
2017-08-21 09:07 Chromoxx: lemme finish my anime episode :D
2017-08-21 09:07 Chromoxx: u ok in 10min or is it getting too late?
2017-08-21 09:07 Nifty: u good
2017-08-21 09:07 Nifty: mmc results out
2017-08-21 09:08 Chromoxx: what was that again?
2017-08-21 09:08 Chromoxx: the modhelp one?
2017-08-21 09:10 Nifty: yeah lmao
2017-08-21 09:24 Chromoxx: ok its time
2017-08-21 09:27 Nifty: yosu
2017-08-21 09:27 Nifty: tfw kantan is way too dense and I already knew that
2017-08-21 09:27 Nifty: prob coulda fixed it before hmp
2017-08-21 09:28 Chromoxx: let's start from the top though
2017-08-21 09:28 Chromoxx: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1311783 KOAN Sound & Asa - fuego (sakuraburst remix) [Embers Oni]]
2017-08-21 09:28 Nifty: topp
2017-08-21 09:28 Chromoxx: overall patterning in this diff is pretty good
2017-08-21 09:28 Chromoxx: kinda basic and the patterns themselves aren't too interesting but it fits
2017-08-21 09:29 Chromoxx: but i feel like the SV changes are kinda overdone in some parts
2017-08-21 09:29 Nifty: mhm I don't like to get complicated I guess
2017-08-21 09:29 Chromoxx: especially in the kiai where they go really fast
2017-08-21 09:29 Nifty: I removed a bunch then was asked to add them back lmao
2017-08-21 09:29 Chromoxx: lmao
2017-08-21 09:29 Chromoxx: idk about removing them
2017-08-21 09:30 Chromoxx: they are kinda cool, but maybe just tone it down a bit?
2017-08-21 09:30 Nifty: specifically the triplets in the beginning though
2017-08-21 09:30 Nifty: is the toning down necessary, or will it just tick some people off if I keep it
2017-08-21 09:30 Chromoxx: kinda neccesary imo, since atm it's too much
2017-08-21 09:30 Nifty: cause I've discussed the intensity in the kiai will some people
2017-08-21 09:31 Nifty: with aa
2017-08-21 09:31 Chromoxx: like the idea behind most of it is pretty solid, it's just a tad over the top imo
2017-08-21 09:31 Chromoxx: otherwise not much to say
2017-08-21 09:31 Nifty: hmm maybe like the oni
2017-08-21 09:31 Chromoxx: ACTION is playing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1391389 KOAN Sound & Asa - fuego (sakuraburst remix) [Oni]] <Taiko> +Hidden
2017-08-21 09:31 Chromoxx: gotta play the oni first... only tested the inner earlier
2017-08-21 09:32 Nifty: yeah
2017-08-21 09:35 Chromoxx: okay, i'd suggest making the inner oni kinda like the oni in terms of SVs
2017-08-21 09:35 Chromoxx: and removing the SVs as far as possible in the oni, since it'll be too hard otherwise
2017-08-21 09:36 Nifty: mhmm
2017-08-21 09:36 Chromoxx: also the oni is a bit too similar to the inner oni in many parts
2017-08-21 09:36 Chromoxx: i had to check to see if i was playing the right diff first
2017-08-21 09:39 Nifty: I thought making it mono would be aight for an oni
2017-08-21 09:39 Nifty: instead of having the dkdkddddk and stuff
2017-08-21 09:39 Nifty: :')
2017-08-21 09:39 Nifty: it's structured pretty much the same with more breaks
2017-08-21 09:39 Chromoxx: i mean it's not identical but its still a bit too similar for my liking
2017-08-21 09:39 Chromoxx: muzu is okay for the most part except a few things
2017-08-21 09:42 Nifty: wb
2017-08-21 09:42 Chromoxx: the SV raise in the kiai is too hard, best keep it at 1.0
2017-08-21 09:43 Chromoxx: the map is already high bpm and reading higher scroll speeds can be very hard for players of that level
2017-08-21 09:43 Nifty: so no sv in muzu
2017-08-21 09:43 Chromoxx: ye
2017-08-21 09:43 Nifty: except for lowering in slower parts
2017-08-21 09:43 Chromoxx: yea
2017-08-21 09:43 Chromoxx: that's the first thing
2017-08-21 09:44 Chromoxx: 2nd thing i noticed is that 00:38:405 - to 00:48:005 - is basically copypasted like 3 times in a row
2017-08-21 09:44 Chromoxx: which becomes a bit too repetitive, so maybe try to at least make some kind of 1 2 1 2 type thing or idk..
2017-08-21 09:44 Chromoxx: something for variety
2017-08-21 09:45 Chromoxx: otherwise it's pretty solid :3
2017-08-21 09:45 Chromoxx: (also rip bancho for a min there lol, sry)
2017-08-21 09:46 Nifty: well yeah there's 2 sections that are identical besides the ending pitches
2017-08-21 09:46 Nifty: ends and repeats at 00:57:605 -
2017-08-21 09:47 Chromoxx: yea if it becomes easily noticable when playing, it's too repetitive
2017-08-21 09:47 Nifty: hmm ok I'll change some stuff then
2017-08-21 09:47 Chromoxx: cool
2017-08-21 09:47 Chromoxx: futsuu looks kinda ok actually
2017-08-21 09:47 Chromoxx: the part before the kiai is a bit too copypasted again for my liking
2017-08-21 09:48 Chromoxx: and the kiai could be buffed on a few parts
2017-08-21 09:48 Nifty: oh cool I remapped it while you were modding the things
2017-08-21 09:48 Chromoxx: like 01:44:555 - and 01:44:855 - you could add d for example
2017-08-21 09:48 Chromoxx: some stuff like that to make it a bit more dense
2017-08-21 09:49 Chromoxx: 01:47:255 - 01:48:455 - you could also change these 2 to k for some variety and contrast, since you're only using dk
2017-08-21 09:49 Nifty: I wouldn't put anything at 01:44:855 - since there's no definite bass like the previous point
2017-08-21 09:50 Chromoxx: 02:06:455 - 02:07:655 - same
2017-08-21 09:50 Chromoxx: there's drums though, that are pretty audible
2017-08-21 09:50 Nifty: hmm
2017-08-21 09:50 Chromoxx: and without doing stuff like this the kiai is kinda less intense than the part before
2017-08-21 09:50 Nifty: would it not be too dense to use that rhythm
2017-08-21 09:50 Chromoxx: nah, it's not too dense
2017-08-21 09:51 Chromoxx: you have quite a lot of breaks otherwise
2017-08-21 09:51 Nifty: yeah
2017-08-21 09:52 Nifty: I'm gonna assume the kantan needs more breaks since it's 200 bpm
2017-08-21 09:52 Chromoxx: and kantan is basically just a case of make more 4/1 breaks and use less 1/1 in the calm parts
2017-08-21 09:52 Nifty: like more 4/1 at least
2017-08-21 09:52 Nifty: yeah ok
2017-08-21 09:52 Chromoxx: basically
2017-08-21 09:52 Chromoxx: not too much to say xD
2017-08-21 09:52 Nifty: cool cool
2017-08-21 09:52 Chromoxx: looks pretty good overall tho
2017-08-21 09:53 Chromoxx: anyway, can i post this and go back to watching hentai now?
2017-08-21 09:53 Nifty: after one thing
2017-08-21 09:53 Chromoxx: sure
2017-08-21 09:53 Nifty: can you specificy a bit on the oni what sv I should keep and not keep?
2017-08-21 09:53 Nifty: like more along the lines of inner or muzu
2017-08-21 09:54 Chromoxx: keep the ones that are for gradually decreasing out of or increasing into 1.0x
2017-08-21 09:54 Chromoxx: i guess
2017-08-21 09:54 Chromoxx: but nothing really over 1.0x imo
2017-08-21 09:55 Nifty: so maybe nerf those by like 0.2 from beginning to end
2017-08-21 09:55 Chromoxx: sure
2017-08-21 09:56 Nifty: alright I'll work on it
2017-08-21 09:56 Chromoxx: cool, i'll post the irc then
2017-08-21 09:57 Nifty: I may need more opinions on the inner though to change it cause I've been very assured by nwolf and raiden that they're fine
good luck! :3
Nifty
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Nifty
Map log: Day X

May the top diff sv rest in peace.
_handholding
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Oni
  1. 01:21:455 (254) - I think deleting this note would be ideal as there isn't a sound on this red tick unlike all the other 1/2 beat rhythms you have in this section. I think deleting this creates a bit more of an interesting rhythm as well
  2. 01:34:655 (293,294,295,296,297,298,299,300,301,302,303) - suggestion https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8932179 . Deleting 01:35:855 (302) - would give a nice small break just before the downbeat. I also think turning 01:35:705 (301) - into a don would just fit better with the pattern overall

Embers Oni
  1. I feel like the SV changes in the beginning aren't really needed and only serve to make some patterns annoyingly awkward to read. Patterns such as 00:44:555 (64,65,66) - 00:54:155 (124,125,126) - 00:58:655 (151,152,153) - 01:06:605 (203,204,205) - etc
  2. 01:36:005 (340) - missing finish, it was in Oni
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Nifty
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Nifty

Kisses wrote:

Oni
  1. 01:21:455 (254) - I think deleting this note would be ideal as there isn't a sound on this red tick unlike all the other 1/2 beat rhythms you have in this section. I think deleting this creates a bit more of an interesting rhythm as well I'm using the k as a way to emphasize the D right after it, but I see your logic
  2. 01:34:655 (293,294,295,296,297,298,299,300,301,302,303) - suggestion https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8932179 . Deleting 01:35:855 (302) - would give a nice small break just before the downbeat. I also think turning 01:35:705 (301) - into a don would just fit better with the pattern overall I'm increasing the density here as the buildup to this D and the following drop needs the intensity put on by the density and sv. Changing the one note makes pretty much no difference, but I did it anyways.

Embers Oni
  1. I feel like the SV changes in the beginning aren't really needed and only serve to make some patterns annoyingly awkward to read. Patterns such as 00:44:555 (64,65,66) - 00:54:155 (124,125,126) - 00:58:655 (151,152,153) - 01:06:605 (203,204,205) - etc NO change, these are a subtle and fun effect, as the triples are not hard to read. Also, retaining the pattern of sv is better with the gaps between those patterns and the (kkk k k d k) manipulations, which may seem too sparse compared to the kiai
  2. 01:36:005 (340) - missing finish, it was in Oni o u caught me
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Remus
452 posts
Joined July 2015
Remus
Hi :>
So, here my suggestions :

[General]
  1. Do not forget about empty Inner Oni in set :^)
    There is some inconsistencies in comparing of some mapped sounds, but i am not a pro of that, just notify you, maybe you'll want to check and compare by your own.
[Kantan]
  1. 00:49:805 (26) - due to diversifying, better to don that. Also, 00:49:505 (25,26) - are really different sounds, so first one has higher tonality comparing with 00:49:805 (26) - that one. I know, that there is drum-related (or smth like that, i am bad in describing musical moments, sorry), but main focus for me is 00:49:805 (26) - empty echo after this kat. It would be better with don, i guess. I don't also think, that emphasizing 00:49:805 (26,27) - of 27 will be broken.
  2. 00:59:405 (40) - same moment as above, in case you decided to change that moment.
  3. 01:06:305 (50,51) - ^
  4. 01:03:905 (46,47) - now i am thinking about changing this pattern to kk to restore flow. What do you think? This suggestion SeemsGood with upper's one.
  5. 01:09:005 (55) - ^
  6. 01:13:505 (61,62) - if decided to change it.
  7. Int other parts I wanted to point only 02:41:405 (35,36) - . Better to ask some other people about density and consistency things here. For me it's totally fine.
[Futsuu]
  1. I noticed that, so just wanted to notify you, that it's a rest, so better to make it a bit less dense. For me, to adjust density here, you can delete 02:32:255 (35) - this one, because it is like empty echo of 02:32:405 (36) - . 02:31:655 (33) - here we can do that, because 02:31:205 (32) - music starts to grow in tonality and sound after isn't that deaf and low, as at 02:31:205 (32) - this moment. Hope you'll get what i wanted to say (ai, mai inglish).
  2. 00:42:605 - i feel lack of note here, but idk, it could break density. Think about this moment, if you have doubts too.
  3. 00:49:205 (44,45,46,47) - if you emphasize that drum sound (or what is it lul, at 00:49:205 (44,45) - ), then better to 00:49:655 (46,47) - ctrl+g them, to follow rhythmics. Sure, there is 00:49:805 (47) - strong sound, that you've mapped as kat before, but in that moment your emphasizing changes to other instrument. 00:49:805 (47,48) - then it would create an even better emphasizing with 48 note.
  4. 01:01:805 - as in first one.
  5. 01:08:855 (102,103) - ^.
[Muzukashii]
  1. Well, diff is good. Only 1 thing, that made me pay attention to - 02:11:255 (294,301) - . For better density, better to remove them. It's good now, sure, but it wouldn't be bad, if you give a player time to concentrate on next pattern. Main thing of my suggestion here is that pattern is a bit of complex due to triple before him.
[Oni]
  1. 00:37:355 (14,15,16) - to be honest, i see no reason for kats here. Better to ddd.
  2. 01:49:655 (402,403,404,405,406) - don't you want to put 1/3 here? Or it's not even 1/3 lol...
  3. 02:08:855 (537,538,539,540,541) - ^ if decided to change.
  4. I am fan of good SV changes and this one (and in last diff) makes me feel good :^) But anyway, better to ask someone more experienced in that about smoothnesses here - some of them looks a bit sudden.
[Embers Oni]
  1. Some SV's are really confusing. I mean 00:54:155 (128,129,130,131,132) - those one. Others are good, but those are not so smooth as you predict them to be.
  2. 01:38:405 (366,367,407,408,520,521,568,569) - are inconsistent Idk why did you do that in first kiai and evaded in second one.
  3. 02:16:805 (8,9) - 02:21:905 - are almost the same moments. So, in therms of consistency, you should decide how to act here. First snares are mapped(what is a bit confusing, because you'll skip them later almost every time) and second ones are mapped.
Looks like mod is ready, most of them just offers. By the way, i really enjoyed map and song :>
Good luck :D
Nifty
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Topic Starter
Nifty
response to Remus

Remus wrote:

Hi :>
So, here my suggestions :

[General]
  1. Do not forget about empty Inner Oni in set :^) AAAA STOP BREAKING
    There is some inconsistencies in comparing of some mapped sounds, but i am not a pro of that, just notify you, maybe you'll want to check and compare by your own. ok i needed dis
[Kantan]
  1. 00:49:805 (26) - due to diversifying, better to don that. Also, 00:49:505 (25,26) - are really different sounds, so first one has higher tonality comparing with 00:49:805 (26) - that one. I know, that there is drum-related (or smth like that, i am bad in describing musical moments, sorry), but main focus for me is 00:49:805 (26) - empty echo after this kat. It would be better with don, i guess. I don't also think, that emphasizing 00:49:805 (26,27) - of 27 will be broken. oke
  2. 00:59:405 (40) - same moment as above, in case you decided to change that moment.
  3. 01:06:305 (50,51) - ^
  4. 01:03:905 (46,47) - now i am thinking about changing this pattern to kk to restore flow. What do you think? This suggestion SeemsGood with upper's one. mmm... nah. I want to emphasize the unique clashing noise after the d.
  5. 01:09:005 (55) - ^ these are the song noise so no change
  6. 01:13:505 (61,62) - if decided to change it.
  7. Int other parts I wanted to point only 02:41:405 (35,36) - . Better to ask some other people about density and consistency things here. For me it's totally fine.
[Futsuu]
  1. I noticed that, so just wanted to notify you, that it's a rest, so better to make it a bit less dense. For me, to adjust density here, you can delete 02:32:255 (35) - this one, because it is like empty echo of 02:32:405 (36) - . 02:31:655 (33) - here we can do that, because 02:31:205 (32) - music starts to grow in tonality and sound after isn't that deaf and low, as at 02:31:205 (32) - this moment. Hope you'll get what i wanted to say (ai, mai inglish). sure, removed
  2. 00:42:605 - i feel lack of note here, but idk, it could break density. Think about this moment, if you have doubts too. mapping this would be too similar to the second iteration of this "melody"
  3. 00:49:205 (44,45,46,47) - if you emphasize that drum sound (or what is it lul, at 00:49:205 (44,45) - ), then better to 00:49:655 (46,47) - ctrl+g them, to follow rhythmics. Sure, there is 00:49:805 (47) - strong sound, that you've mapped as kat before, but in that moment your emphasizing changes to other instrument. 00:49:805 (47,48) - then it would create an even better emphasizing with 48 note.
  4. 01:01:805 - as in first one.
  5. 01:08:855 (102,103) - ^.
[Muzukashii]
  1. Well, diff is good. Only 1 thing, that made me pay attention to - 02:11:255 (294,301) - . For better density, better to remove them. It's good now, sure, but it wouldn't be bad, if you give a player time to concentrate on next pattern. Main thing of my suggestion here is that pattern is a bit of complex due to triple before him. changed
[Oni]
  1. 00:37:355 (14,15,16) - to be honest, i see no reason for kats here. Better to ddd. they're just more fun too play, adds variety after all those d's
  2. 01:49:655 (402,403,404,405,406) - don't you want to put 1/3 here? Or it's not even 1/3 lol... I mapped the right rhythm
  3. 02:08:855 (537,538,539,540,541) - ^ if decided to change.
  4. I am fan of good SV changes and this one (and in last diff) makes me feel good :^) But anyway, better to ask someone more experienced in that about smoothnesses here - some of them looks a bit sudden. I've had Nwolf, Raiden and Chromoxx tell me the sv is fine as it is, as well as my fair share of experience with sv
[Embers Oni]
  1. Some SV's are really confusing. I mean 00:54:155 (128,129,130,131,132) - those one. Others are good, but those are not so smooth as you predict them to be. I'll ask around
  2. 01:38:405 (366,367,407,408,520,521,568,569) - are inconsistent Idk why did you do that in first kiai and evaded in second one. It's not inconsistent if I meant to change it. The first kiai has more variety in the streams because the patterns after are less complex. In the second kiai, I used mono streams because they flow way better with the triples I use after them (except the final one, that stays the same since different beat pattern). Other modders take heed.
  3. 02:16:805 (8,9) - 02:21:905 - are almost the same moments. So, in therms of consistency, you should decide how to act here. First snares are mapped(what is a bit confusing, because you'll skip them later almost every time) and second ones are mapped. removed the k k in the area
Looks like mod is ready, most of them just offers. By the way, i really enjoyed map and song :>
Good luck :D

thanks boi
Protonori
140 posts
Joined February 2015
Protonori
From my modding queue~

[General]
So... It looks like this has been posted already, but there's an empty "Inner Oni" diff in the set. To fix this, go into the song folder and delete "dj TAKA meets DJ YOSHITAKA - Elemental Creation (Nifty) [Inner Oni]".

[Kantan]
00:40:205 (10) - Move to 00:39:905. You normally map this sound with k.
00:42:305 (13,14) - k d? Same reason as above.
00:52:205 (29) - Move to 00:51:905. Same reasoning as 00:40:205.
01:01:805 (43) - Move to 01:01:505. Same as above.
01:11:405 (58) - Move to 01:11:105. ^
01:49:805 (117) - Finisher? It'd fit the loud clap sound.
02:09:005 (154) - ^

[Futsuu]
00:39:305 (15) - Move to 00:39:155? There's a distinct sound here.
00:43:955 (29) - Change to d? Same reason as above.
00:44:105 (30) - Maybe change to k? You did this at 00:51:005 (50,51,52).
00:48:905 (43) - Move to 00:48:755? Same reason as 00:39:305.
01:49:805 (49) - Finisher?
02:09:005 (106) - ^ (...etc. I probably shouldn't add this suggestion to every diff lol. If you want to change it, it's up to you.)

[Muzukashii]
00:44:105 (48) - I think you should use d to emphasize the next note. If you agree, I'd recommend applying it to the rest of the intro [ex: 00:53:705]
00:45:005 - I think you should add a k here. This sound is more noticeable than 00:45:155 (54), and you mapped it at 00:49:505 (76).
00:54:605 - k? Same reason as 00:45:005.
01:04:205 - ^
01:13:805 - ^

Kiai suggestions:
01:37:280 (107) - Delete? I think this is too much for a Muzu.
01:38:480 (115) - ^
01:39:680 (123) - ^
01:40:055 and 01:40:130 - Add k? I think a triple would fit well here.
01:42:230 (137) - Delete? Same reason as above, but it'd fit the pattern change at 01:44:405 (150,151,152,153).
01:43:430 (145) - ^

My suggestions for second kiai are the same, so it's up to you.

[Oni]
00:39:755 (30) - d? I think it flows better than the current pattern. You also used d in Muzu, so it'd be more consistent.

01:37:580 (315) - Delete? I think you should save long streams for the top diff.
01:38:780 (326) - ^
01:39:980 (337) - ^
01:42:380 (355) - ^
01:43:580 (366) - ^
01:43:955 (370,371) - Swap these? The sound at 01:43:955 is more distinct.

My suggestions for second kiai are mostly the same.

[Embers Oni]
Consider renaming this diff to "Ember Oni" or something similar. At first, the "s" made me think that it was a guest diff.

Comment about the kiai streams: The current patterns sound a bit awkward imo. I think you should use quad/double streams.
Suggestions, starting from 01:37:205 :




...etc. It's up to you, of course.

Quality set. Good luck with ranking this! :)
Nifty
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Nifty
response to Protonori

Protonori wrote:

From my modding queue~

[General]
So... It looks like this has been posted already, but there's an empty "Inner Oni" diff in the set. To fix this, go into the song folder and delete "dj TAKA meets DJ YOSHITAKA - Elemental Creation (Nifty) [Inner Oni]". rip elemental creation isn't even uploaded yet

[Kantan]
00:40:205 (10) - Move to 00:39:905. You normally map this sound with k.
00:42:305 (13,14) - k d? Same reason as above.
00:52:205 (29) - Move to 00:51:905. Same reasoning as 00:40:205.
01:01:805 (43) - Move to 01:01:505. Same as above.
01:11:405 (58) - Move to 01:11:105. ^ fixed all
01:49:805 (117) - Finisher? It'd fit the loud clap sound. nah
02:09:005 (154) - ^

[Futsuu]
00:39:305 (15) - Move to 00:39:155? There's a distinct sound here. there's also one on white tick and it's easier
00:43:955 (29) - Change to d? Same reason as above.
00:44:105 (30) - Maybe change to k? You did this at 00:51:005 (50,51,52). different sounds
00:48:905 (43) - Move to 00:48:755? Same reason as 00:39:305.
01:49:805 (49) - Finisher?
02:09:005 (106) - ^ (...etc. I probably shouldn't add this suggestion to every diff lol. If you want to change it, it's up to you.)

[Muzukashii]
00:44:105 (48) - I think you should use d to emphasize the next note. If you agree, I'd recommend applying it to the rest of the intro [ex: 00:53:705] these two pitches are very close to each other and have almost identical emphasis
00:45:005 - I think you should add a k here. This sound is more noticeable than 00:45:155 (54), and you mapped it at 00:49:505 (76). i can't map that noise every single time is comes up, that would make the song boring. Right here, the focus is on the weird noises, not the background drums
00:54:605 - k? Same reason as 00:45:005.
01:04:205 - ^
01:13:805 - ^ no thanks

Kiai suggestions:
01:37:280 (107) - Delete? I think this is too much for a Muzu. these are all fine, it's a smooth transition in difficulty from oni to futsuu, they're monos, and they're 1/1 away from anything else, and it's the only 1/4 used in that section.
01:38:480 (115) - ^
01:39:680 (123) - ^
01:40:055 and 01:40:130 - Add k? I think a triple would fit well here. but i need the spaces
01:42:230 (137) - Delete? Same reason as above, but it'd fit the pattern change at 01:44:405 (150,151,152,153). that pattern changes slightly on every diff because that pattern in the song is different.
01:43:430 (145) - ^

My suggestions for second kiai are the same, so it's up to you.

[Oni]
00:39:755 (30) - d? I think it flows better than the current pattern. You also used d in Muzu, so it'd be more consistent. ok

01:37:580 (315) - Delete? I think you should save long streams for the top diff. made some changes, 5 + 3
01:38:780 (326) - ^
01:39:980 (337) - ^
01:42:380 (355) - ^
01:43:580 (366) - ^
01:43:955 (370,371) - Swap these? The sound at 01:43:955 is more distinct. no thanks

My suggestions for second kiai are mostly the same.

[Embers Oni]
Consider renaming this diff to "Ember Oni" or something similar. At first, the "s" made me think that it was a guest diff. Embers rolls off the songue.

Comment about the kiai streams: The current patterns sound a bit awkward imo. I think you should use quad/double streams.
Suggestions, starting from 01:37:205 :




...etc. It's up to you, of course. The patterns attack your fingers like the song attacks your ears, I ain't babyproofing my map today no no no.

Quality set. Good luck with ranking this! :)

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