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KnightC0re
212 posts
Joined February 2016
Topic Starter
KnightC0re
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Monday, October 30, 2017 at 1:56:00 PM

Artist: xi
Title: Aragami
Source: BMS
Tags: deemo heaven deathstream celektus mrmenda -jordan- kaeldori
BPM: 98
Filesize: 3961kb
Play Time: 01:55
Difficulties Available:
  1. Celektus' Hi-Speed Hard (3.4 stars, 203 notes)
  2. Heaven (6.64 stars, 826 notes)
  3. Insane (5.03 stars, 425 notes)
  4. -Jordan-'s Tragic Love Normal (2.17 stars, 146 notes)
  5. Kaeldori's Easy (1.82 stars, 116 notes)
  6. Light Insane (3.85 stars, 275 notes)
  7. Menda's Extra (5.94 stars, 680 notes)
Download: xi - Aragami
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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I basically remapped the whole quiet stream bc Kroytz-sama said it's a bit cramped or something I can't remember well (forgot hitsounds .-.)

Kaeldori's Easy: Completed (awaiting update)
-Jordan-'s Normal: Completed (awaiting update)
Celektus' Hard: Completed (awaiting update)
Light Insane: Completed
Insane: Completed
MrMenda's Extra: Completed
Heaven: Completed

Waiting for Cele and Kael's update then straight to BN
Last edited by KnightC0re , edited 49 times in total.
Celektus
694 posts
Joined April 2014
Celektus

Heaven
  1. I see one problem with these jumps 00:15:856 (5,1) - they kinda make the stream corner on the same sounds super underwhelming. I'm not sure if jumps like that are technically rankable, but you can keep them until you get thousands of complaints about them and keep that in mind if you remap it.

    TL;DR if you re map this section make all the jumps not too much stronger then the stream corners

  2. this stream corner 00:17:080 (9) - is on something not strong enough I thinkso maybe make it not as sharp as this one 00:16:774 (5) -
    also a bit too sharp I'd say 00:18:917 (9) -

  3. I think the distance between these 2 slider bodies should be bigger like this. or something similar to how spaced other objects are, for me this close just looks a bit weird in this case

  4. these 2 sliders are sharing sounds 00:29:325 (1,2) - you you grouped them with 3rd slider 00:29:631 (2,3,1) - if you do that the 3rd one should have some kind of difference so that he clearly isn't supposed to represent what the other 2 are doing. There also is a strong sound one this slider end 00:29:937 (3) - So the pattern needs some rethinking in my opinion.

    I would consider making 00:29:631 (2) - into a revers slider while the slider end on 3 would have a circle maybe still in the same position as the slider head or end of 3 like this I didn'T really Ctrl+ G anything so change the flow how you feel like fits what you've don so far or find other solutions to this pattern that:

    1. Emphasize the strong sound on the slider end of 3

    2. Make these 2 grouped separately 00:29:325 (1,2) -

  5. maybe make this 00:30:856 (3,1) - and especially this spacing 00:31:162 (3,1) - smaller, since jumps into 1/4 should be less straining as 1/4 itself is more straining on it's own than 1/2

  6. this should be smaller 00:32:233 (2,3) - since 00:31:927 (3,1) - is stronger, but has nearly the same spacing

    same here 00:32:386 (3,4) -

    and this is more spaced than before without any reason 00:32:845 (5,1) - here you might need to actually re design some stuff tho so I can understand if that's a bit annoying. If you decide to re map that bit try and make all the angle maybe more consistent, it's not and unrankable issue so only do it if you think that would improve the structure of your map.

    aka: making you spacing less variable and maybe angle too

  7. make this bigger or as big 00:37:590 (1,2) - as this 00:37:437 (6,1) - cause same sounds

    and make this a lot smaller pls because of the 1/4 thing I talked about before 00:37:743 (2,1) -

  8. that jump is smaller than all the others 00:40:192 (4,1) -

  9. these are all a bit weaker 00:40:345 (1,2,3) - than these 00:39:427 (1,2,3,4) - so maybe use Ctrl + G or make them less spaced in some way.
    like I said tho this one still has a Kick so it can be still big or some sort of in between thing 00:40:345 (1) -

    same here 00:42:182 (1,2) - but that one might need some re deigning. I though of ctrl + Ging the whole pattern and stuff so try around what make only the Kick sounds emphasized and the spacing into the 1/4 00:42:794 (3,4,5,6) - a lot smaller

  10. just to clarify this is one of the better jumps into 1/4 I feel like since it's really intense and not too spaced 00:44:019 (1,2) -

  11. a bit too sharp again 00:49:223 (9) -

  12. spacing increased for no reason 01:03:764 (2,3,4) - I would even say the intensity goes down so make it the same or smaller spacing

  13. way too sharp as there isn't even a strong sound 01:09:121 (5) - here too 01:10:958 (5) -

    this one is kinda "ok" 01:12:488 (1) -

  14. there is no strong sound into this 01:10:192 (1) - as the strong sound is here 01:10:039 (5) -

    and this one is stronger but the spacing into 1/4 makes it also way too spaced 01:13:866 (1) -

  15. all the jumps into 1/4 in this section are a bit overspaced and it's also kinda kinda weird in my opinion that they always land in the same places 01:17:539 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) -

    I know this is like saying "re map the section" , but with a bit of planning you can do that without too much effort as it's before a Spinner and thus not as connected to the next patterns.

  16. 1 is on not the same thing as 2 and 3 here 01:21:672 (1,2,3) - I would extend this one 01:21:366 (2) - and maybe even make 2 and 3 also repeat slider as that Sound is still going in the background

  17. well you spacing into 1/4 in this section is actually so big that you kinda need to make it either smaller or make these nearly fullscreen jumps 01:29:937 (1,2,3,4) - and then not fullscreen anymore into 1/4 01:30:703 (4,1) -


    I think the increase from this 01:50:141 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - into this spacing 01:51:060 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,1) - isn't gradual enough so either make 01:50:141 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - more spaced or the last stream less spaced

  18. these last few notes don't have as much piano bliss anymore so they should be a bit different maybe less spaced too 01:51:672 (9,10,11,12,1) -

  19. honestly this pattern is kinda cool, but if it were circular it would play so much better 01:51:978 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - ... so like... can you make it circular with the same angles? ;_;

    if you want help with that last pattern ask me on Discord later or something

Insane

I'm gonna say a bit less about Insane I think


  1. Overall as in the top diff spacing into 1/4 is the pretty much biggest problem if anything. most other things are decent.

  2. please don't use stacks like that 00:19:070 (2,3,1) - as that's really hard to read and close to a gimmick that needs to be introduced. Maybe consider using somthing really stacked like this

  3. try and make you slider Overlapp less with that stream 00:15:550 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - just looks a bit better I think. or make the slider overlapp consistently with a red anchor

  4. I think this should be spaced too 00:21:060 (1,2) - since all the other repeat sliders are spaced too

  5. I think the SV in that section is too fast 00:25:192 (1) - go down to like 0,75x or lower

  6. this skips a Piano note 00:29:325 (3) - I would suggest this Rhythm

  7. this is the only slider so far with 2 strong sounds on head and end 00:32:692 (3) - not really an unrankable issue, but being more consistent with filler rhythm is always something to point out. If this isn't explained well enough tell me.

  8. I think this stack could be blanketed 00:42:947 (2,3,1) - by this slider 00:42:182 (1) - like move the stack like this

  9. why did you make this a stack? 00:45:703 (5,1) - like it's introduced at all especially since the only stack so far were 1/4. If it's supposed to be an Anti jump than you would've needed to introduce it earlier

  10. I love this section 00:46:774 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5) - everything looks nice is consistent and spacing after 1/4 makes sense

  11. try and make this one not overlapped 00:51:672 (2) -

  12. that stack makes sense since it's 1/1 00:52:437 (2,1) - and it fits really well just as clarification

  13. blankets are supposed to have the same distance from the body and end as the head. like this

    If you don't get what I mean here's a more detailed explanation:

    what you did wrong was that your slider head actually had some space between it and the approach circle like shown here.
    Here's a more exadurated example. In that picture you can clearly see that the approach circle is overlapping the slider head and ends slider border while the rest of the body is too far away, in that cause you would do something like this.

    That's still kinda obvious so what about this one? For that slider you would actually need to do this since the border of the Head and End are this time inside the approach circle so everything needs to be inside that circle with the same distance.

    You do that mistake from time to time so check all your blankets from that problem.

  14. make the slider head completely Overlapped pls 00:58:713 (1) - like this

  15. there are multiple strong sounds in this that could be mapped 01:06:060 (1) - what reason do you have to not split it up into several sliders?

  16. very consistently overlapping nice ^^ 01:06:978 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1) -

  17. not clicked strong sound at the end of the slider :NotLikeThis: 01:09:733 (1) -

  18. the distance between the slider borders is nowhere else in the map thus it looks kinda bad without justification 01:10:192 (2,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - making them more spaced would look better.

  19. there are several strong sounds in this pattern 01:11:570 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4) - but everything is just mapped with the same spacing and pretty much all the same angles which make this pattern super unnecessary and I can imagine that other people might hate this a lot. Both sliders and different spacing are actually possible here and tbh this also doesn't feel related to the rest of this section at all.

    sorry for being so harsh there, but I think this pattern is really unfitting T_T

    similar thing here there are strong sounds her for example 01:16:162 (1,3,5) - yet the spacing and angles are all the same
  20. that SV change look so mesmerizing wtf owo 01:13:407 (1,1) - aka I love that

  21. the Overlapping is bugging me here again 01:18:917 (1,2,3,4,1) - making every slider exactly half overlapped seems like a better idea... maybe even 1/4th overlapped, but honestly halfway seems better to me as you did that before here 01:06:978 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1) - and my diff pretty much exclusively does that.

  22. that slider is really unreadable since the stream pretty much completely hides it 01:24:274 (3) - something like this would be better in my opinion, but if that flow isn't to your liking look for another solution

  23. that's the first time you do this in the entire map 01:30:703 (4,1) - thus it looks really unrelated and off putting. It would work if that fill in the song was more special than it is, but it isn't so it doesn't make much sense.

  24. also that Overlapp under 3 looks kinda bad 01:31:162 (2,1) - it might look better if 3 would be completely overlapping 2 01:31:162 (2) -

  25. for an Insane that's a really hard reading spike 01:33:611 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - as you did pretty much nothing like this before and it being all 1/4 sliders and the very variable spacing in between every 1/2 gap. I would highly consider re doing this with maybe something like repeat or 1/2 slider as this isn't the right place for a Spike like this imo

  26. a bit too sharp 01:51:672 (9) - and you never had any stream corner this sharp in the entire diff so it seems like it's supposed to be the most emphasized sounds in any stream in the entire song... which I don't think is your intention.




KnightC0re
212 posts
Joined February 2016
Topic Starter
KnightC0re

Celektus wrote:

Heaven
  1. I see one problem with these jumps 00:15:856 (5,1) - they kinda make the stream corner on the same sounds super underwhelming. I'm not sure if jumps like that are technically rankable, but you can keep them until you get thousands of complaints about them and keep that in mind if you remap it. think this is fine

    TL;DR if you re map this section make all the jumps not too much stronger then the stream corners

  2. this stream corner 00:17:080 (9) - is on something not strong enough I thinkso maybe make it not as sharp as this one 00:16:774 (5) -
    also a bit too sharp I'd say 00:18:917 (9) - These all shows the change in pitches... (weird choice but I think how the piano is expressed is important

  3. I think the distance between these 2 slider bodies should be bigger like this. or something similar to how spaced other objects are, for me this close just looks a bit weird in this case can't really see the difference from your image and my original map, I just moved the slider a bit

  4. these 2 sliders are sharing sounds 00:29:325 (1,2) - you you grouped them with 3rd slider 00:29:631 (2,3,1) - if you do that the 3rd one should have some kind of difference so that he clearly isn't supposed to represent what the other 2 are doing. There also is a strong sound one this slider end 00:29:937 (3) - So the pattern needs some rethinking in my opinion.

    I would consider making 00:29:631 (2) - into a revers slider while the slider end on 3 would have a circle maybe still in the same position as the slider head or end of 3 like this I didn'T really Ctrl+ G anything so change the flow how you feel like fits what you've don so far or find other solutions to this pattern that:

    1. Emphasize the strong sound on the slider end of 3

    2. Make these 2 grouped separately 00:29:325 (1,2) - changed

  5. maybe make this 00:30:856 (3,1) - and especially this spacing 00:31:162 (3,1) - smaller, since jumps into 1/4 should be less straining as 1/4 itself is more straining on it's own than 1/2 I feel like it's already small to begin with

  6. this should be smaller 00:32:233 (2,3) - since 00:31:927 (3,1) - is stronger, but has nearly the same spacing Fixed

    same here 00:32:386 (3,4) - Fixed

    and this is more spaced than before without any reason 00:32:845 (5,1) - here you might need to actually re design some stuff tho so I can understand if that's a bit annoying. If you decide to re map that bit try and make all the angle maybe more consistent, it's not and unrankable issue so only do it if you think that would improve the structure of your map. fixed

    aka: making you spacing less variable and maybe angle too

  7. make this bigger or as big 00:37:590 (1,2) - as this 00:37:437 (6,1) - cause same sounds fixed

    and make this a lot smaller pls because of the 1/4 thing I talked about before 00:37:743 (2,1) - The intensity changed so this is okay to me

  8. that jump is smaller than all the others 00:40:192 (4,1) - made it a bit bigger

  9. these are all a bit weaker 00:40:345 (1,2,3) - than these 00:39:427 (1,2,3,4) - so maybe use Ctrl + G or make them less spaced in some way.
    like I said tho this one still has a Kick so it can be still big or some sort of in between thing 00:40:345 (1) - This has less intensity

    same here 00:42:182 (1,2) - but that one might need some re deigning. I though of ctrl + Ging the whole pattern and stuff so try around what make only the Kick sounds emphasized and the spacing into the 1/4 00:42:794 (3,4,5,6) - a lot smaller I think I finally know what you're on about, but i don't think entering a stream should have an enforced small spacing

  10. just to clarify this is one of the better jumps into 1/4 I feel like since it's really intense and not too spaced 00:44:019 (1,2) -

  11. a bit too sharp again 00:49:223 (9) - Fixed

  12. spacing increased for no reason 01:03:764 (2,3,4) - I would even say the intensity goes down so make it the same or smaller spacing The pitch gets higher (again, weird choice of intensity, but I decided that)

  13. way too sharp as there isn't even a strong sound 01:09:121 (5) - here too 01:10:958 (5) - I don't think this is problematic cuz I focused on the pitch again Which gave me the idea to make each white tick on this stream to be sharp (tell me if this is worst structurally)

    this one is kinda "ok" 01:12:488 (1) -

  14. there is no strong sound into this 01:10:192 (1) - as the strong sound is here 01:10:039 (5) - It's because the strong sound initiate the jump

    and this one is stronger but the spacing into 1/4 makes it also way too spaced 01:13:866 (1) - As I said the jump itself shouldn't be enforced to be small

  15. all the jumps into 1/4 in this section are a bit overspaced and it's also kinda kinda weird in my opinion that they always land in the same places 01:17:539 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - The increasing intensity makes me think that this spacing is appropriate,
    also the overlapping is showing the similar melodies

    I know this is like saying "re map the section" , but with a bit of planning you can do that without too much effort as it's before a Spinner and thus not as connected to the next patterns.

  16. 1 is on not the same thing as 2 and 3 here 01:21:672 (1,2,3) - I would extend this one 01:21:366 (2) - and maybe even make 2 and 3 also repeat slider as that Sound is still going in the background They ARE similar

  17. well you spacing into 1/4 in this section is actually so big that you kinda need to make it either smaller or make these nearly fullscreen jumps 01:29:937 (1,2,3,4) - and then not fullscreen anymore into 1/4 01:30:703 (4,1) - I don't see why the jump needs to be changed


    I think the increase from this 01:50:141 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - into this spacing 01:51:060 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,1) - isn't gradual enough so either make 01:50:141 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - more spaced or the last stream less spaced Increased spacing from previous stream

  18. these last few notes don't have as much piano bliss anymore so they should be a bit different maybe less spaced too 01:51:672 (9,10,11,12,1) - It's not entirely wrong to me, also kills momentum

  19. honestly this pattern is kinda cool, but if it were circular it would play so much better 01:51:978 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - ... so like... can you make it circular with the same angles? ;_; This part shouldn't really have jumps (except between 6s and 1s to make similarities) so I don't think circular flow matters here

    if you want help with that last pattern ask me on Discord later or something

Insane

I'm gonna say a bit less about Insane I think


  1. Overall as in the top diff spacing into 1/4 is the pretty much biggest problem if anything. most other things are decent.

  2. please don't use stacks like that 00:19:070 (2,3,1) - as that's really hard to read and close to a gimmick that needs to be introduced. Maybe consider using somthing really stacked like this Implied

  3. try and make you slider Overlapp less with that stream 00:15:550 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - just looks a bit better I think. or make the slider overlapp consistently with a red anchor Fixed

  4. I think this should be spaced too 00:21:060 (1,2) - since all the other repeat sliders are spaced too Fixed

  5. I think the SV in that section is too fast 00:25:192 (1) - go down to like 0,75x or lower Recaculated slider lengths @_@

  6. this skips a Piano note 00:29:325 (3) - I would suggest this Rhythm I feel that there might cause confusion

  7. this is the only slider so far with 2 strong sounds on head and end 00:32:692 (3) - not really an unrankable issue, but being more consistent with filler rhythm is always something to point out. If this isn't explained well enough tell me. Since this is so quiet I don't think filler rhythm is completely necessary

  8. I think this stack could be blanketed 00:42:947 (2,3,1) - by this slider 00:42:182 (1) - like move the stack like this Fixed

  9. why did you make this a stack? 00:45:703 (5,1) - like it's introduced at all especially since the only stack so far were 1/4. If it's supposed to be an Anti jump than you would've needed to introduce it earlier Moved 5

  10. I love this section 00:46:774 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5) - everything looks nice is consistent and spacing after 1/4 makes sense
  11. try and make this one not overlapped 00:51:672 (2) - I think I would like it to still overlap on the other reverse slider but I moved it up so it doesn't overlap with the stream


  12. that stack makes sense since it's 1/1 00:52:437 (2,1) - and it fits really well just as clarification

  13. blankets are supposed to have the same distance from the body and end as the head. like this

    If you don't get what I mean here's a more detailed explanation:

    what you did wrong was that your slider head actually had some space between it and the approach circle like shown here.
    Here's a more exadurated example. In that picture you can clearly see that the approach circle is overlapping the slider head and ends slider border while the rest of the body is too far away, in that cause you would do something like this.

    That's still kinda obvious so what about this one? For that slider you would actually need to do this since the border of the Head and End are this time inside the approach circle so everything needs to be inside that circle with the same distance.

    You do that mistake from time to time so check all your blankets from that problem.

  14. make the slider head completely Overlapped pls 00:58:713 (1) - like this Done

  15. there are multiple strong sounds in this that could be mapped 01:06:060 (1) - what reason do you have to not split it up into several sliders? It gets quiet here so I wanted to show that

  16. very consistently overlapping nice ^^ 01:06:978 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1) -

  17. not clicked strong sound at the end of the slider :NotLikeThis: 01:09:733 (1) - Fixed, also NotLikeThis is not a emoticon here :thinking:

  18. the distance between the slider borders is nowhere else in the map thus it looks kinda bad without justification 01:10:192 (2,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - making them more spaced would look better. This is kinda like the first triple pattern of this part, it's quieter so I think the spacing does not have to be big

  19. there are several strong sounds in this pattern 01:11:570 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4) - but everything is just mapped with the same spacing and pretty much all the same angles which make this pattern super unnecessary and I can imagine that other people might hate this a lot. Both sliders and different spacing are actually possible here and tbh this also doesn't feel related to the rest of this section at all. Change a bit

    sorry for being so harsh there, but I think this pattern is really unfitting T_T

    similar thing here there are strong sounds her for example 01:16:162 (1,3,5) - yet the spacing and angles are all the same Made a hexagonal shape... It's not much different but the spacing to 1 3 and 5 is bigger
  20. that SV change look so mesmerizing wtf owo 01:13:407 (1,1) - aka I love that

  21. the Overlapping is bugging me here again 01:18:917 (1,2,3,4,1) - making every slider exactly half overlapped seems like a better idea... maybe even 1/4th overlapped, but honestly halfway seems better to me as you did that before here 01:06:978 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1) - and my diff pretty much exclusively does that. Fixed

  22. that slider is really unreadable since the stream pretty much completely hides it 01:24:274 (3) - something like this would be better in my opinion, but if that flow isn't to your liking look for another solution Wow I actually didn't realized that slider was there, fixed

  23. that's the first time you do this in the entire map 01:30:703 (4,1) - thus it looks really unrelated and off putting. It would work if that fill in the song was more special than it is, but it isn't so it doesn't make much sense. Moved 4

  24. also that Overlapp under 3 looks kinda bad 01:31:162 (2,1) - it might look better if 3 would be completely overlapping 2 01:31:162 (2) - okay

  25. for an Insane that's a really hard reading spike 01:33:611 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - as you did pretty much nothing like this before and it being all 1/4 sliders and the very variable spacing in between every 1/2 gap. I would highly consider re doing this with maybe something like repeat or 1/2 slider as this isn't the right place for a Spike like this imo Fixed

  26. a bit too sharp 01:51:672 (9) - and you never had any stream corner this sharp in the entire diff so it seems like it's supposed to be the most emphasized sounds in any stream in the entire song... which I don't think is your intention. Replaced with slider



Celektus
694 posts
Joined April 2014
Celektus
I'm just going through some of the points I feel like need further explanation

KnightC0re wrote:

Celektus wrote:

Heaven
  1. this stream corner 00:17:080 (9) - is on something not strong enough I thinkso maybe make it not as sharp as this one 00:16:774 (5) -
    also a bit too sharp I'd say 00:18:917 (9) - These all shows the change in pitches... (weird choice but I think how the piano is expressed is important

    I mean that they are a lot weaker than the jumps that was my main point overall. In that case the corner is too sharp and you didn't say why it needs to be this sharp and not just more fluid. I just wanted to explain my main concern more clearly no need to respond

  2. I think the distance between these 2 slider bodies should be bigger like this. or something similar to how spaced other objects are, for me this close just looks a bit weird in this case can't really see the difference from your image and my original map, I just moved the slider a bit

    you slider border is closer which looks bad.

    1:1 comparison with lines

  3. maybe make this 00:30:856 (3,1) - and especially this spacing 00:31:162 (3,1) - smaller, since jumps into 1/4 should be less straining as 1/4 itself is more straining on it's own than 1/2 I feel like it's already small to begin with

    It's the same size as your 1/2 jumps which are small to yes, but jumps into 1/4 should be even smaller by a bit


    and make this a lot smaller pls because of the 1/4 thing I talked about before 00:37:743 (2,1) - The intensity changed so this is okay to me

    yea the intensity kinda got more intense imo so I thought that the jump should be bigger, but I'm ok with that argument tbh just makin my point more relateable
  4. these are all a bit weaker 00:40:345 (1,2,3) - than these 00:39:427 (1,2,3,4) - so maybe use Ctrl + G or make them less spaced in some way.
    like I said tho this one still has a Kick so it can be still big or some sort of in between thing 00:40:345 (1) - This has less intensity

    yeah that#s why I suggested making only that Kick still a jump. There is surely a better solution so just keep in mind that I thought the Kick should still be a last jump into


    same here 00:42:182 (1,2) - but that one might need some re deigning. I though of ctrl + Ging the whole pattern and stuff so try around what make only the Kick sounds emphasized and the spacing into the 1/4 00:42:794 (3,4,5,6) - a lot smaller I think I finally know what you're on about, but i don't think entering a stream should have an enforced small spacing

    well here is also clearly not really intense with slider leaniancy in mind the jump is pretty much this big while this jump 00:42:182 (1,2) - is the same spacing yet like I said spacing into 1/4 is commonly regarded more straining and has less spacing into it. You haven't really debunked that idea yet, but I'll rather explain this to you in another way and will stop reexplaining the points that are related to it
  5. a bit too sharp again 00:49:223 (9) - Fixed

    why did you fix that one but not the one in the intro? I just wanna know so I can reinforce my point

  6. way too sharp as there isn't even a strong sound 01:09:121 (5) - here too 01:10:958 (5) - I don't think this is problematic cuz I focused on the pitch again Which gave me the idea to make each white tick on this stream to be sharp (tell me if this is worst structurally)

    well seems reasonable goo explanation to me

  7. there is no strong sound into this 01:10:192 (1) - as the strong sound is here 01:10:039 (5) - It's because the strong sound initiate the jump

    It just clashes with the jump should be into strong sounds idea which you do utilize

  8. 1 is on not the same thing as 2 and 3 here 01:21:672 (1,2,3) - I would extend this one 01:21:366 (2) - and maybe even make 2 and 3 also repeat slider as that Sound is still going in the background They ARE similar

    no 2 and 3 have a noticeably louder Lead sound on them and if your trying to make the weird distorted sound in the back then I think 1/2 sliders make no sense. Honestly just extend your buzz-slider and delete 1 it make way more sense in my opinion and plays exactly the same. And if I#m misunderstanding what sound your mapping tell me

  9. well you spacing into 1/4 in this section is actually so big that you kinda need to make it either smaller or make these nearly fullscreen jumps 01:29:937 (1,2,3,4) - and then not fullscreen anymore into 1/4 01:30:703 (4,1) - I don't see why the jump needs to be changed

    It's the same jumps into 1/4 should be smaller idea but back wards as in jumps from 1/2 into 1/2 should be more spaced than 1/2 into or out of 1/4

Insane

I'm gonna say a bit less about Insane I think


  1. this skips a Piano note 00:29:325 (3) - I would suggest this Rhythm I feel that there might cause confusion

    then find a way that doesn't cause confusion. also why would it?

  2. this is the only slider so far with 2 strong sounds on head and end 00:32:692 (3) - not really an unrankable issue, but being more consistent with filler rhythm is always something to point out. If this isn't explained well enough tell me. Since this is so quiet I don't think filler rhythm is completely necessary

    yea but you used it before... in the same section like here 00:28:407 (1,2,3) - since all the ends a quieter or here 00:25:192 (1,2) -

  3. there are multiple strong sounds in this that could be mapped 01:06:060 (1) - what reason do you have to not split it up into several sliders? It gets quiet here so I wanted to show that

    then do so and emphasize everything correct

  4. not clicked strong sound at the end of the slider :NotLikeThis: 01:09:733 (1) - Fixed, also NotLikeThis is not a emoticon here :thinking:

    lol you can't stop me from memeing D:

  5. the distance between the slider borders is nowhere else in the map thus it looks kinda bad without justification 01:10:192 (2,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - making them more spaced would look better. This is kinda like the first triple pattern of this part, it's quieter so I think the spacing does not have to be big

    it's more of a aesthetic thing like making all you spacing not super slighly form object to object looks better

    2nd 1:1 comparison
Celektus
694 posts
Joined April 2014
Celektus
[MrMenda's Extra]

  1. you could've mapped the sounds between these 2 sliders 00:03:669 (1,2) - not really too necessary, but I still thought I'd suggest it

  2. this is the only slider in this group that's not the same blanket 00:10:483 (1) - as these 00:07:955 (1,1,1,1,1) - which is slightly inconsistent and could be changed it doesn't really add anything to the map in my opinion unless you have a reason for it.

    similar here yet this one is completely different and also the last note which seems more justified 00:12:134 (1) -

  3. this sound starts on blue tick earlier 00:13:168 (1) - you could also exchange it for a spinner as that is fitting enough and the shape has pretty much the same affect. it'a also more spaced than all the others wich is ok at this BPM yet another reason to change it I suppose

  4. really minor change. this stream 00:16:468 (1,2,3,4,5) - could be perfectly in line with this one 00:16:009 (1,2,3,4,5) - it's only a slightly off as you can see here. feel free to disregard this, but hey it's not really making anything worse

  5. because of slider leniency and momentum this jump 00:15:856 (5,1) - is bigger than this one 00:16:315 (5,1) - I would arrange it in a way that make the 2nd one as big as the first.

  6. this jump is 1/2 00:17:692 (5,1) - tho this one is 1/4 and pretty much the same size 00:17:998 (3,1) - you should make the jump into 1 somewhat smaller and easier to hit about the size of these should be right 00:16:774 (5,6) -

  7. I think the angle of this slider 00:18:611 (1,2,3,4,5) - is slightly inconsistent with the ones in the intro 00:15:550 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - perfectly vertical streams are just very uncommon and stand out unnecessarily unless you use a lot of them all over the place. I would just tilt that one like those maybe even copy one of them

  8. this is the first hidden slider in the map so far without really any bigger reason 00:27:794 (3) - and I think it's kinda unnecessarily making that one stand out. If you can try and make that one not hidden under a slider to be less special in this instance

  9. this jump is trough slider leniency a bit bigger 00:27:794 (3,4) - than these 00:27:488 (2,3) - 00:28:101 (4,5) - you might wanna move 4 and 5 a bit closer to 3

  10. you could stack 3 better under 1 00:28:866 (1,3) - maybe use slider to stream and copy a note out of it

  11. I think all of these jumps into 1/4 could be a bit smaller 00:30:090 (5,6,7,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - and 00:30:090 (5,6,7) - could be more inwards of the curve from 5

  12. this jumps is too big 00:32:386 (6,1) - since there is not strong sound imo. this one is justified 00:31:927 (3,4) - since it has this kinda piano harmony

    same goes for this one 00:32:845 (2,3) - as in too big same here 00:32:845 (2,3,2,3) - and sometimes more often in that section

  13. I personally think this jump should be bigger than the ones before it 00:37:437 (4,1) -

  14. It's kinda inconsistent to use a full stack for 1/2 here first 00:38:356 (6,1) - no 1/2 so far was stacked like this and most stacks were 1/4. So you should probably make that spaced apart

  15. you could make that S slider perfectly equal 00:40:345 (1) - unless you have a specific idea in mind

  16. you could tilt this slider maybe 00:40:652 (1) - to make the overall pattern less clustered and overlapping. Overall I think You can find a better solution in terms of overlapping for this 00:40:345 (1,1,1,1,2) -

  17. try and make the S slider perfectly equal 00:43:713 (5) - or at least not overlap with this triple 00:44:172 (2,3,4) - as that looks kinda clustered

  18. I know you designed a lot of patterns so far around overlapping though this one in particular is super hard to read compared to the rest 00:45:396 (5) -

  19. this one 00:49:529 (1,2,3,4,5) - could look more like this 00:47:692 (1,2,3,4,5) - as they are both related in the same section and the 2nd example just looks overall more appealing and consistent with most of your preexisting streams

  20. this jump 00:49:223 (5,1) - is bigger than this one 00:49:835 (5,1) - make the 2nd one bigger to be more consistent with the rest of the section

  21. try and make the slider not overlap that stream 00:50:447 (2,1,2,3,4,5,6) - as that looks cleaner

  22. these should be a jumps too 00:51:978 (9,1) - 00:52:437 (2,3) - as they have the same sounds and intensity as 00:52:284 (1,2) - 00:53:050 (4,5) -

  23. I think it would be more natural to ctrl + G this slider 00:53:509 (1) - then the movement into 00:53:968 (1) - would also make more sense as those 2 are very unrelated to you movements so far

  24. these 2 should look more alike 00:55:958 (1,3) - this one has this kinda weird to the rest of your aesthetics unrelated sharp curve near the slider end 00:56:876 (3) - maybe make it not even similar to the first one at all and rather try to overlap this whole stream 00:56:876 (3,1,2,3,4) - I would recommend this one (Slider anchors + Overlaps)

  25. this stream could be a more perfectly looking one 01:06:519 (6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - every stream so far has been good, but that one really bugs me you should also make sure that these 2 overlap perfectly 01:06:748 (2,1) - cause that honestly just looks way better

    this is pretty much perfect 01:06:519 (6,7,1,2,3,4,5) - but till the end it would be more fitting to go into a perfectly round loop.

  26. try and avoid overlaps 01:08:050 (5) - especially revers arrows as those are super ambiguous and pretty much 100% unrankable

  27. this stream looks a bit better 01:08:509 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,1,2,3) - but it could still be less slightly overlapping 01:08:662 (3,2) - and these transitions into a perfectly round circle could fit... well the circles curve better 01:08:662 (3,4,5) - 01:09:351 (1,2,3) -

    also the slight spacing change looks kinda dumb and doesn't really add to the song 01:08:509 (1,2,3) - try and make it a bit more conventional

  28. pretty much the only vertical slider in the whole song so far 01:09:887 (2) - which like the stream in the beginning stands out unnecessarily there is nothing special in the song happening so this shouldn't be special too from a conventional mappers perspective

  29. also first stream that goes perfectly from a revers into the next stream 01:10:345 (4) -

  30. this little centered pattern I think really fit the songs change 01:11:570 (1,2,3,4,5) -

  31. I don't wanna be that guy, but... 01:11:570 (1,6,7,1,2,3,4) - ... fix your blanket pls same here 01:28:713 (1) -

  32. btw also try and apply points I don't point our myself every time like this 01:13:560 (4) -

  33. you best stream so far really sick 01:25:958 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) -

  34. less touching pls 01:27:335 (7,1) - looks dumb

  35. try and avoid overlaps 01:28:713 (1,3) - that one is kinda ok, but not really in the theme of you map in my diff for example it fits since I used exclusively half slider overlapping stuff


  36. this one should stand out more form the following 2 as those have these 1/8 kinda kick burst 01:29:325 (4) -

  37. also nice stream 01:33:458 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) -

  38. that slider shouldn't be slightly off 01:49:223 (7) -

  39. You should use 1/8 here I think 01:55:773 (7) -
Kaeldori
299 posts
Joined July 2011
Kaeldori
Can i make a eazy ?
MrMenda
301 posts
Joined December 2015
MrMenda

Celektus wrote:

[MrMenda's Extra]

  1. you could've mapped the sounds between these 2 sliders 00:03:669 (1,2) - not really too necessary, but I still thought I'd suggest it Nope, I decided to ignore those sounds as they are much lower than the clickable objects later

  2. this is the only slider in this group that's not the same blanket 00:10:483 (1) - as these 00:07:955 (1,1,1,1,1) - which is slightly inconsistent and could be changed it doesn't really add anything to the map in my opinion unless you have a reason for it. Well, main reason for that change is not to go back to the same places, as the rotation would cause that, it might be inconsistent, but it's there for a more efficient playfield usage

    similar here yet this one is completely different and also the last note which seems more justified 00:12:134 (1) -

  3. this sound starts on blue tick earlier 00:13:168 (1) - you could also exchange it for a spinner as that is fitting enough and the shape has pretty much the same affect. it'a also more spaced than all the others wich is ok at this BPM yet another reason to change it I suppose. This is mapped in the BPM change, I also feel that there is a really quiet piano note there.

  4. really minor change. this stream 00:16:468 (1,2,3,4,5) - could be perfectly in line with this one 00:16:009 (1,2,3,4,5) - it's only a slightly off as you can see here. feel free to disregard this, but hey it's not really making anything worse Fixed

  5. because of slider leniency and momentum this jump 00:15:856 (5,1) - is bigger than this one 00:16:315 (5,1) - I would arrange it in a way that make the 2nd one as big as the first. Ctrl + Hd it

  6. this jump is 1/2 00:17:692 (5,1) - tho this one is 1/4 and pretty much the same size 00:17:998 (3,1) - you should make the jump into 1 somewhat smaller and easier to hit about the size of these should be right 00:16:774 (5,6) - Fixed

  7. I think the angle of this slider 00:18:611 (1,2,3,4,5) - is slightly inconsistent with the ones in the intro 00:15:550 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - perfectly vertical streams are just very uncommon and stand out unnecessarily unless you use a lot of them all over the place. I would just tilt that one like those maybe even copy one of them Fixed

  8. this is the first hidden slider in the map so far without really any bigger reason 00:27:794 (3) - and I think it's kinda unnecessarily making that one stand out. If you can try and make that one not hidden under a slider to be less special in this instance Used the same distance as in the next pattern, although I think it looks cleaner behind the other slder

  9. this jump is trough slider leniency a bit bigger 00:27:794 (3,4) - than these 00:27:488 (2,3) - 00:28:101 (4,5) - you might wanna move 4 and 5 a bit closer to 3 Nope, if I do so then that pattern is just plain boring, it's nothing special now, but I think it is better to play as it is now.

  10. you could stack 3 better under 1 00:28:866 (1,3) - maybe use slider to stream and copy a note out of it This has the same distance and it enables me to connect it to the next pattern much better than if I make that stack. It's also there for a better playfield usage

  11. I think all of these jumps into 1/4 could be a bit smaller 00:30:090 (5,6,7,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - and 00:30:090 (5,6,7) - could be more inwards of the curve from 5 There is no problem on playing that pattern, the distance is not that big to be considered that harder

  12. this jumps is too big 00:32:386 (6,1) - since there is not strong sound imo. this one is justified 00:31:927 (3,4) - since it has this kinda piano harmony

    same goes for this one 00:32:845 (2,3) - as in too big same here 00:32:845 (2,3,2,3) - and sometimes more often in that section It is indeed justified, as the notes immediately after the sliders are more important that the rest, so it needs extra distance

  13. I personally think this jump should be bigger than the ones before it 00:37:437 (4,1) - Fixed

  14. It's kinda inconsistent to use a full stack for 1/2 here first 00:38:356 (6,1) - no 1/2 so far was stacked like this and most stacks were 1/4. So you should probably make that spaced apart Fixed, used same stack as in 00:28:713 (2,3) -

  15. you could make that S slider perfectly equal 00:40:345 (1) - unless you have a specific idea in mind Ctrl'd+G it twice, lets hope its fixed

  16. you could tilt this slider maybe 00:40:652 (1) - to make the overall pattern less clustered and overlapping. Overall I think You can find a better solution in terms of overlapping for this 00:40:345 (1,1,1,1,2) - I think it is fine as it is, if another modder complains I'll find another solution for that

  17. try and make the S slider perfectly equal 00:43:713 (5) - or at least not overlap with this triple 00:44:172 (2,3,4) - as that looks kinda clustered Fixed

  18. I know you designed a lot of patterns so far around overlapping though this one in particular is super hard to read compared to the rest 00:45:396 (5) - Fixed

  19. this one 00:49:529 (1,2,3,4,5) - could look more like this 00:47:692 (1,2,3,4,5) - as they are both related in the same section and the 2nd example just looks overall more appealing and consistent with most of your preexisting streams Fixed

  20. this jump 00:49:223 (5,1) - is bigger than this one 00:49:835 (5,1) - make the 2nd one bigger to be more consistent with the rest of the section Fixed

  21. try and make the slider not overlap that stream 00:50:447 (2,1,2,3,4,5,6) - as that looks cleaner Fixed again

  22. these should be a jumps too 00:51:978 (9,1) - 00:52:437 (2,3) - as they have the same sounds and intensity as 00:52:284 (1,2) - 00:53:050 (4,5) - Fixed

  23. I think it would be more natural to ctrl + G this slider 00:53:509 (1) - then the movement into 00:53:968 (1) - would also make more sense as those 2 are very unrelated to you movements so far Fixed

  24. these 2 should look more alike 00:55:958 (1,3) - this one has this kinda weird to the rest of your aesthetics unrelated sharp curve near the slider end 00:56:876 (3) - maybe make it not even similar to the first one at all and rather try to overlap this whole stream 00:56:876 (3,1,2,3,4) - I would recommend this one (Slider anchors + Overlaps) Fixed the slider inconsistency, not the way it relates to the stream

  25. this stream could be a more perfectly looking one 01:06:519 (6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - every stream so far has been good, but that one really bugs me you should also make sure that these 2 overlap perfectly 01:06:748 (2,1) - cause that honestly just looks way better

    this is pretty much perfect 01:06:519 (6,7,1,2,3,4,5) - but till the end it would be more fitting to go into a perfectly round loop. Fixed the first part, I think the stream works as it is now

  26. try and avoid overlaps 01:08:050 (5) - especially revers arrows as those are super ambiguous and pretty much 100% unrankable Fixed

  27. this stream looks a bit better 01:08:509 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,1,2,3) - but it could still be less slightly overlapping 01:08:662 (3,2) - and these transitions into a perfectly round circle could fit... well the circles curve better 01:08:662 (3,4,5) - 01:09:351 (1,2,3) -

    also the slight spacing change looks kinda dumb and doesn't really add to the song 01:08:509 (1,2,3) - try and make it a bit more conventional Nope, this stream works perfectly, the spacing change fits as the middle part is different to the beginning

  28. pretty much the only vertical slider in the whole song so far 01:09:887 (2) - which like the stream in the beginning stands out unnecessarily there is nothing special in the song happening so this shouldn't be special too from a conventional mappers perspective Fixed

  29. also first stream that goes perfectly from a revers into the next stream 01:10:345 (4) -

  30. this little centered pattern I think really fit the songs change 01:11:570 (1,2,3,4,5) -

  31. I don't wanna be that guy, but... 01:11:570 (1,6,7,1,2,3,4) - ... fix your blanket pls same here 01:28:713 (1) - XD

  32. btw also try and apply points I don't point our myself every time like this 01:13:560 (4) - Fixed

  33. you best stream so far really sick 01:25:958 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Thanks ^^

  34. less touching pls 01:27:335 (7,1) - looks dumb Fixed

  35. try and avoid overlaps 01:28:713 (1,3) - that one is kinda ok, but not really in the theme of you map in my diff for example it fits since I used exclusively half slider overlapping stuff Fixed


  36. this one should stand out more form the following 2 as those have these 1/8 kinda kick burst 01:29:325 (4) - Fixed

  37. also nice stream 01:33:458 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) -

  38. that slider shouldn't be slightly off 01:49:223 (7) - Fixed

  39. You should use 1/8 here I think 01:55:773 (7) - Stupid mistake lol. Fixed
Fort you Cele Thanks for your mod!
Celektus
694 posts
Joined April 2014
Celektus

MrMenda wrote:

Celektus wrote:

[MrMenda's Extra]

  1. this jump is trough slider leniency a bit bigger 00:27:794 (3,4) - than these 00:27:488 (2,3) - 00:28:101 (4,5) - you might wanna move 4 and 5 a bit closer to 3 Nope, if I do so then that pattern is just plain boring, it's nothing special now, but I think it is better to play as it is now.

    you can solve this by making just putting them slightly closer together doesn't really take away any interesting movement so I think it should be fine, but it's also not a big deal either way tbh I just wanted to make my stance clearer


  2. you could stack 3 better under 1 00:28:866 (1,3) - maybe use slider to stream and copy a note out of it This has the same distance and it enables me to connect it to the next pattern much better than if I make that stack. It's also there for a better playfield usage

    I think you misunderstood my point I meant it like this not like literally stacked. And if it's ok I'll also give a little idea you could also do something like this
  3. I think all of these jumps into 1/4 could be a bit smaller 00:30:090 (5,6,7,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - and 00:30:090 (5,6,7) - could be more inwards of the curve from 5 There is no problem on playing that pattern, the distance is not that big to be considered that harder

    idc about difficulty I just think it's too emphasized and you didn't even Adresse the curve into 00:30:090 (5,6,7) - You could rotate 00:29:784 (4) - by -15° and make the blanket right again or some other solution.

  4. this jumps is too big 00:32:386 (6,1) - since there is not strong sound imo. this one is justified 00:31:927 (3,4) - since it has this kinda piano harmony

    same goes for this one 00:32:845 (2,3) - as in too big same here 00:32:845 (2,3,2,3) - and sometimes more often in that section It is indeed justified, as the notes immediately after the sliders are more important that the rest, so it needs extra distance

    "this jumps is too big 00:32:386 (6,1) - since there is not strong sound imo." Celektus I saif the others are justified sometimes, but not all of them and also this one isn't even after a slider 00:32:845 (2,3) - I don't really hear strong sounds after the sliders so it think the could at least be not double the distance if that#s a good compromise

  5. you could make that S slider perfectly equal 00:40:345 (1) - unless you have a specific idea in mind Ctrl'd+G it twice, lets hope its fixed

    I meant it like "make the S better" cause it's not really good yet x:

  6. you could tilt this slider maybe 00:40:652 (1) - to make the overall pattern less clustered and overlapping. Overall I think You can find a better solution in terms of overlapping for this 00:40:345 (1,1,1,1,2) - I think it is fine as it is, if another modder complains I'll find another solution for that

    honestly I only care about 00:41:417 (2) - as that one isn't in that pattern in the song


  7. this stream looks a bit better 01:08:509 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,1,2,3) - but it could still be less slightly overlapping 01:08:662 (3,2) - and these transitions into a perfectly round circle could fit... well the circles curve better 01:08:662 (3,4,5) - 01:09:351 (1,2,3) -

    also the slight spacing change looks kinda dumb and doesn't really add to the song 01:08:509 (1,2,3) - try and make it a bit more conventional Nope, this stream works perfectly, the spacing change fits as the middle part is different to the beginning

    yea just fine just make it look better k




  8. also first stream that goes perfectly from a revers into the next stream 01:10:345 (4) - no response yet

  9. this little centered pattern I think really fit the songs change 01:11:570 (1,2,3,4,5) - no response yet
Fort you Cele Thanks for your mod!
Dahu
204 posts
Joined August 2016
Dahu
Hi! New modder passing through .w.
Insane
00:15:550 (1,2,3,4,5) - the streams like this in the beginning of the map feel a little awkward to play, so maybe you should curve the shape of the stream a bit and or add a slider here 00:15:856 (5) - like this (If the awkward flow was intentional my bad xP)
01:22:590 (1,2,3,4,5) - Same thing here^^
01:23:050 (1,2,3,4,5) - ^^

Maybe delete 00:19:069 (2) - and 00:19:146 (3) - to add a reverse slider here 00:18:993 (2) - like this

00:22:590 (3) - Minor nitpick. Imo, this slider should be done on the 1/16 divisor for more buzz. If you do this 00:22:896 (1) - might have to be moved a bit closer to 00:22:590 (3) -

The gaps between 01:07:131 (3,1) - and 01:07:437 (3,1) - could be spaced out a bit more

01:36:060 (3) - maybe this could be replaced with a stream? like this
Good luck with the map!
KnightC0re
212 posts
Joined February 2016
Topic Starter
KnightC0re

Doug China wrote:

Hi! New modder passing through .w.
Insane
00:15:550 (1,2,3,4,5) - the streams like this in the beginning of the map feel a little awkward to play, so maybe you should curve the shape of the stream a bit and or add a slider here 00:15:856 (5) - like this (If the awkward flow was intentional my bad xP)
01:22:590 (1,2,3,4,5) - Same thing here^^
01:23:050 (1,2,3,4,5) - ^^ I don't really see how these are awkward

Maybe delete 00:19:069 (2) - and 00:19:146 (3) - to add a reverse slider here 00:18:993 (2) - like this Changed(although a bit closer to the stream)

00:22:590 (3) - Minor nitpick. Imo, this slider should be done on the 1/16 divisor for more buzz. If you do this 00:22:896 (1) - might have to be moved a bit closer to 00:22:590 (3) - Fixed

The gaps between 01:07:131 (3,1) - and 01:07:437 (3,1) - could be spaced out a bit more I did this to emphasize the low pich and volume(the pitch gets higher in the next triple)

01:36:060 (3) - maybe this could be replaced with a stream? like this Fixed
Good luck with the map!
-jordan-
692 posts
Joined October 2015
-jordan-
IRC mod for menda
2017-06-26 16:19 -Jordan-: 00:06:741 (1) - extend that by 1/8
2017-06-26 16:19 -Jordan-: this section is half bpm so its fine
2017-06-26 16:19 MrMenda: kk
2017-06-26 16:19 -Jordan-: 00:07:353 (1,1,1,1,1,1) - this is cool
2017-06-26 16:20 -Jordan-: but at 00:11:252 (1,1,1) - it kind of falls apart
2017-06-26 16:20 -Jordan-: and 00:13:168 (1) - doesnt really fit the music
2017-06-26 16:21 MrMenda: what do you suggest there?
2017-06-26 16:22 -Jordan-: id probably keep it how it is except change 00:12:134 (1) - to a circle then have a break, or spinner
2017-06-26 16:23 MrMenda: fixed
2017-06-26 16:24 -Jordan-: 00:16:468 (1,2,3,4,5) - ok this accellerating stream i cant tell if its intentional or not but its ugly af and also has no reason to exist
2017-06-26 16:25 MrMenda: fixed
2017-06-26 16:26 -Jordan-: i like how on the strong sounds of the music you move to the next stream section witha kick slider like at 00:15:550 (1) - 00:16:009 (1) - 00:16:468 (1) - 00:17:386 (1) - etc
2017-06-26 16:27 -Jordan-: but you totally ignore the one here on the red tick 00:16:774 (5) - :<
2017-06-26 16:28 MrMenda: I had to nerf the pattern D:
2017-06-26 16:28 -Jordan-: you want my suggestion?
2017-06-26 16:28 MrMenda: sure
2017-06-26 16:29 -Jordan-: ok so you do kind of start off hard with the streams in the first kiai which is fine
2017-06-26 16:29 -Jordan-: but you could add some repeat sliders to help break up the constant 1/4 tapping
2017-06-26 16:29 -Jordan-: here is a good place to do so while fitting the music
2017-06-26 16:29 -Jordan-: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8443753
2017-06-26 16:30 -Jordan-: if you think thats too easy
2017-06-26 16:30 -Jordan-: you could change the first slider to be a stream
2017-06-26 16:32 MrMenda: I prefer to have the first one as a stream
2017-06-26 16:32 -Jordan-: do that then
2017-06-26 16:32 -Jordan-: as long as the red tick is emphasised somehow
2017-06-26 16:33 MrMenda: yeah
2017-06-26 16:33 MrMenda: got it
2017-06-26 16:34 -Jordan-: 00:17:386 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,1,2) - i dont think you need to add variation from the first time you mapped this
2017-06-26 16:34 -Jordan-: just map it like the first 2 streams
2017-06-26 16:34 -Jordan-: this is confusing
2017-06-26 16:35 MrMenda: I prefer to change it
2017-06-26 16:35 -Jordan-: you shouldnt
2017-06-26 16:35 MrMenda: as it is going to be in the same exact place as the first 2 streams
2017-06-26 16:35 -Jordan-: youre literally 3 seconds later in the maop
2017-06-26 16:35 -Jordan-: why are you changing the rhythm
2017-06-26 16:35 -Jordan-: on the same sounds
2017-06-26 16:36 -Jordan-: w
2017-06-26 16:36 -Jordan-: just make it look different like use slightly curved stream or something
2017-06-26 16:37 MrMenda: the second one has some different sounds
2017-06-26 16:37 -Jordan-: i think you mean
2017-06-26 16:37 -Jordan-: the piaon has a different pitch
2017-06-26 16:37 MrMenda: yeah
2017-06-26 16:37 -Jordan-: thats reason to change the spacing/direction of the stream or whatever
2017-06-26 16:37 -Jordan-: not reason to change the rhythm
2017-06-26 16:38 -Jordan-: the piano is still following the same rhythm
2017-06-26 16:38 -Jordan-: well not 00:18:305 (3,1,2,3,4,5) - but you should change that section anyway
2017-06-26 16:38 -Jordan-: as you ignore the strong sounds again
2017-06-26 16:38 -Jordan-: or at least dont map them in a meaningful wayt
2017-06-26 16:39 MrMenda: I think I kinda fixed the stream before
2017-06-26 16:43 -Jordan-: ok lets speed up, map the thuds in the kiai well
2017-06-26 16:44 -Jordan-: same goes for stream direction change 00:19:529 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) -
2017-06-26 16:44 -Jordan-: like this direction change on nothing
2017-06-26 16:44 -Jordan-: could change on thud
2017-06-26 16:44 -Jordan-: 00:24:733 (1,2,3) - fix blankets
2017-06-26 16:44 -Jordan-: 00:26:264 (1) - map the piano dont just cover it with a slider
2017-06-26 16:44 -Jordan-: 00:28:407 (5) - new combo
2017-06-26 16:45 -Jordan-: 00:28:713 (6,7) - ugly imo and you havent used this stacking in the map so far
2017-06-26 16:45 -Jordan-: 00:30:550 (3,4,5) - this is 1/6 rhythm map it with a reverse slider or something
2017-06-26 16:45 -Jordan-: same here 00:31:315 (5) -
2017-06-26 16:46 MrMenda: 00:25:192 (2,3) - Isn't intended to be a blanket
2017-06-26 16:46 -Jordan-: then make it look like it isnt
2017-06-26 16:46 -Jordan-: instead of it looking like a shit blanket
2017-06-26 16:46 -Jordan-: 00:34:988 (2,3) - skipping over sounds you mapped before
2017-06-26 16:47 -Jordan-: 00:37:590 (1) - why this a reverse tho, theres no 1/8 rhythm there
2017-06-26 16:47 -Jordan-: 00:39:427 (1,2,3) - ugly pattrern
2017-06-26 16:47 -Jordan-: also overlaps weird with 00:39:121 (1) -
2017-06-26 16:48 -Jordan-: 00:39:121 (1) - clustered mapping looks ugly
2017-06-26 16:48 -Jordan-: use more of the playfield
2017-06-26 16:48 -Jordan-: 00:50:141 (1,2,3) - bigger jump after the intenser stream bit probably
2017-06-26 16:49 -Jordan-: 00:51:978 (3) - extend by 1/4
2017-06-26 16:49 -Jordan-: 00:53:509 (2) - NC cos that pattern is trippy
2017-06-26 16:49 -Jordan-: cool tho
2017-06-26 16:50 -Jordan-: 00:55:958 (1,2,1) - what sounds do these slider ends land on. do they really need to be sliders?
2017-06-26 16:50 -Jordan-: 00:58:713 (1,2,1,1,2) - like compare to how you mapped it here
2017-06-26 16:50 -Jordan-: the second time works way better
2017-06-26 16:50 -Jordan-: 01:01:468 (1) - sudden lower of hitsound volume is weird
2017-06-26 16:51 -Jordan-: 01:04:223 (3) - why isnt this a slider like the rest
2017-06-26 16:51 -Jordan-: would be better if 01:04:682 (4) - was just a circle and
2017-06-26 16:51 -Jordan-: 01:04:223 (3) - slider
2017-06-26 16:51 -Jordan-: 01:05:141 (5) - new combo
2017-06-26 16:51 -Jordan-: im guessing you skip over sound at 01:05:830 - for a break from the stream?
2017-06-26 16:52 -Jordan-: should make 01:05:754 (5) - a 1/4 kick slider going to the triple
2017-06-26 16:53 -Jordan-: 01:19:529 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - i think this stream is not really placed well and doesnt visually flow well
2017-06-26 16:53 -Jordan-: second kiai same as first
2017-06-26 16:53 -Jordan-: dont ignore the thuds
2017-06-26 16:54 -Jordan-: map them in a meaningful way
2017-06-26 16:54 -Jordan-: 01:38:279 - skipping over sounds again which is weird cos you map the sounds with a stream right after
2017-06-26 16:55 -Jordan-: the stream should actually end at 01:38:968 -
2017-06-26 16:55 -Jordan-: i can still hear piano sounds there
2017-06-26 16:55 -Jordan-: 01:41:876 (3,4,5) - why sudden drop in intensity with reverses
2017-06-26 16:56 -Jordan-: 01:50:141 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - why does it come back on itself so hard
MrMenda
301 posts
Joined December 2015
MrMenda

-Jordan- wrote:

IRC mod for menda
2017-06-26 16:19 -Jordan-: 00:06:741 (1) - extend that by 1/8
2017-06-26 16:19 -Jordan-: this section is half bpm so its fine
2017-06-26 16:19 MrMenda: kk
2017-06-26 16:19 -Jordan-: 00:07:353 (1,1,1,1,1,1) - this is cool
2017-06-26 16:20 -Jordan-: but at 00:11:252 (1,1,1) - it kind of falls apart
2017-06-26 16:20 -Jordan-: and 00:13:168 (1) - doesnt really fit the music
2017-06-26 16:21 MrMenda: what do you suggest there?
2017-06-26 16:22 -Jordan-: id probably keep it how it is except change 00:12:134 (1) - to a circle then have a break, or spinner
2017-06-26 16:23 MrMenda: fixed
2017-06-26 16:24 -Jordan-: 00:16:468 (1,2,3,4,5) - ok this accellerating stream i cant tell if its intentional or not but its ugly af and also has no reason to exist
2017-06-26 16:25 MrMenda: fixed
2017-06-26 16:26 -Jordan-: i like how on the strong sounds of the music you move to the next stream section witha kick slider like at 00:15:550 (1) - 00:16:009 (1) - 00:16:468 (1) - 00:17:386 (1) - etc
2017-06-26 16:27 -Jordan-: but you totally ignore the one here on the red tick 00:16:774 (5) - :<
2017-06-26 16:28 MrMenda: I had to nerf the pattern D:
2017-06-26 16:28 -Jordan-: you want my suggestion?
2017-06-26 16:28 MrMenda: sure
2017-06-26 16:29 -Jordan-: ok so you do kind of start off hard with the streams in the first kiai which is fine
2017-06-26 16:29 -Jordan-: but you could add some repeat sliders to help break up the constant 1/4 tapping
2017-06-26 16:29 -Jordan-: here is a good place to do so while fitting the music
2017-06-26 16:29 -Jordan-: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8443753
2017-06-26 16:30 -Jordan-: if you think thats too easy
2017-06-26 16:30 -Jordan-: you could change the first slider to be a stream
2017-06-26 16:32 MrMenda: I prefer to have the first one as a stream
2017-06-26 16:32 -Jordan-: do that then
2017-06-26 16:32 -Jordan-: as long as the red tick is emphasised somehow
2017-06-26 16:33 MrMenda: yeah
2017-06-26 16:33 MrMenda: got it
2017-06-26 16:34 -Jordan-: 00:17:386 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,1,2) - i dont think you need to add variation from the first time you mapped this
2017-06-26 16:34 -Jordan-: just map it like the first 2 streams
2017-06-26 16:34 -Jordan-: this is confusing
2017-06-26 16:35 MrMenda: I prefer to change it
2017-06-26 16:35 -Jordan-: you shouldnt
2017-06-26 16:35 MrMenda: as it is going to be in the same exact place as the first 2 streams
2017-06-26 16:35 -Jordan-: youre literally 3 seconds later in the maop
2017-06-26 16:35 -Jordan-: why are you changing the rhythm
2017-06-26 16:35 -Jordan-: on the same sounds
2017-06-26 16:36 -Jordan-: w
2017-06-26 16:36 -Jordan-: just make it look different like use slightly curved stream or something
2017-06-26 16:37 MrMenda: the second one has some different sounds
2017-06-26 16:37 -Jordan-: i think you mean
2017-06-26 16:37 -Jordan-: the piaon has a different pitch
2017-06-26 16:37 MrMenda: yeah
2017-06-26 16:37 -Jordan-: thats reason to change the spacing/direction of the stream or whatever
2017-06-26 16:37 -Jordan-: not reason to change the rhythm
2017-06-26 16:38 -Jordan-: the piano is still following the same rhythm
2017-06-26 16:38 -Jordan-: well not 00:18:305 (3,1,2,3,4,5) - but you should change that section anyway
2017-06-26 16:38 -Jordan-: as you ignore the strong sounds again
2017-06-26 16:38 -Jordan-: or at least dont map them in a meaningful wayt
2017-06-26 16:39 MrMenda: I think I kinda fixed the stream before
2017-06-26 16:43 -Jordan-: ok lets speed up, map the thuds in the kiai well
2017-06-26 16:44 -Jordan-: same goes for stream direction change 00:19:529 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) -
2017-06-26 16:44 -Jordan-: like this direction change on nothing
2017-06-26 16:44 -Jordan-: could change on thud
2017-06-26 16:44 -Jordan-: 00:24:733 (1,2,3) - fix blankets
2017-06-26 16:44 -Jordan-: 00:26:264 (1) - map the piano dont just cover it with a slider
2017-06-26 16:44 -Jordan-: 00:28:407 (5) - new combo
2017-06-26 16:45 -Jordan-: 00:28:713 (6,7) - ugly imo and you havent used this stacking in the map so far
2017-06-26 16:45 -Jordan-: 00:30:550 (3,4,5) - this is 1/6 rhythm map it with a reverse slider or something
2017-06-26 16:45 -Jordan-: same here 00:31:315 (5) -
2017-06-26 16:46 MrMenda: 00:25:192 (2,3) - Isn't intended to be a blanket
2017-06-26 16:46 -Jordan-: then make it look like it isnt
2017-06-26 16:46 -Jordan-: instead of it looking like a shit blanket
2017-06-26 16:46 -Jordan-: 00:34:988 (2,3) - skipping over sounds you mapped before
2017-06-26 16:47 -Jordan-: 00:37:590 (1) - why this a reverse tho, theres no 1/8 rhythm there
2017-06-26 16:47 -Jordan-: 00:39:427 (1,2,3) - ugly pattrern
2017-06-26 16:47 -Jordan-: also overlaps weird with 00:39:121 (1) -
2017-06-26 16:48 -Jordan-: 00:39:121 (1) - clustered mapping looks ugly
2017-06-26 16:48 -Jordan-: use more of the playfield
2017-06-26 16:48 -Jordan-: 00:50:141 (1,2,3) - bigger jump after the intenser stream bit probably
2017-06-26 16:49 -Jordan-: 00:51:978 (3) - extend by 1/4
2017-06-26 16:49 -Jordan-: 00:53:509 (2) - NC cos that pattern is trippy
2017-06-26 16:49 -Jordan-: cool tho
2017-06-26 16:50 -Jordan-: 00:55:958 (1,2,1) - what sounds do these slider ends land on. do they really need to be sliders?
2017-06-26 16:50 -Jordan-: 00:58:713 (1,2,1,1,2) - like compare to how you mapped it here
2017-06-26 16:50 -Jordan-: the second time works way better
2017-06-26 16:50 -Jordan-: 01:01:468 (1) - sudden lower of hitsound volume is weird
2017-06-26 16:51 -Jordan-: 01:04:223 (3) - why isnt this a slider like the rest
2017-06-26 16:51 -Jordan-: would be better if 01:04:682 (4) - was just a circle and
2017-06-26 16:51 -Jordan-: 01:04:223 (3) - slider
2017-06-26 16:51 -Jordan-: 01:05:141 (5) - new combo
2017-06-26 16:51 -Jordan-: im guessing you skip over sound at 01:05:830 - for a break from the stream?
2017-06-26 16:52 -Jordan-: should make 01:05:754 (5) - a 1/4 kick slider going to the triple
2017-06-26 16:53 -Jordan-: 01:19:529 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - i think this stream is not really placed well and doesnt visually flow well
2017-06-26 16:53 -Jordan-: second kiai same as first
2017-06-26 16:53 -Jordan-: dont ignore the thuds
2017-06-26 16:54 -Jordan-: map them in a meaningful way
2017-06-26 16:54 -Jordan-: 01:38:279 - skipping over sounds again which is weird cos you map the sounds with a stream right after
2017-06-26 16:55 -Jordan-: the stream should actually end at 01:38:968 -
2017-06-26 16:55 -Jordan-: i can still hear piano sounds there
2017-06-26 16:55 -Jordan-: 01:41:876 (3,4,5) - why sudden drop in intensity with reverses
2017-06-26 16:56 -Jordan-: 01:50:141 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - why does it come back on itself so hard
Thanks for irc mod!!
-jordan-
692 posts
Joined October 2015
-jordan-
give me my kudosu bitch c:
Celektus
694 posts
Joined April 2014
Celektus
no kds

[ Kaeldori's Easy]
  1. most of the other diffs have the intro mapped and you could do that too with a lot of 2/1 or longer sliders and maybe circles to still have lower than usual rhythm density
  2. You could make all of these better blankets 00:15:550 (1,2,1) - 00:20:141 (2) - probably the same with a lot of other sliders.
    examples
  3. extend these two to the next red tick pls 00:28:407 (1,2) - as there is a stronger sound and a 3/2 gap should still be readable for players of this range
  4. 00:35:754 (1) -

    osu! Ranking Criteria wrote:

    1. Spinner recovery time should be at least 4 beats. This is to ensure adequate time to click a hit object following a spinner.
    it's also kind of a really short one at this BPM so consider changing it to a slider or something.

  5. I think ctrl + Ging this slider 00:37:590 (1) - and maybe tilting it by 18° like this one 00:39:427 (1) - would be more natural. Also there is no sound on a blue tick. I think it's fine but you represented the same sounds without a repeat right after 00:39:427 (1) -
  6. you could just copy the slider from before here 00:39:886 (2) - :eyes: . This repeats so it should be fine, but I think either would be rankable. (especially here 00:43:560 (2) - )
  7. why did you NC this? 01:09:733 (1) - I wouldn't recommend doing that every slider as 1 note combos are kinda dumb, especially since easy players kinda should start to learn with bigger combos how follow points work and how patterns group and stuff.
  8. make the blanket better here 01:11:570 (1) - blanket modding for no kds LUL
  9. pls add a circle here 01:21:366 - maybe just copy paste 01:20:754 (1) -
  10. It's kinda counter intuitive when you kiai is one of the least dense sections in your map 01:22:590 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4,1,2) - you should either have it be more dense or make some other sections more undermapped. Try out some easy fixes and maybe re map a section or 2, but if that's too much effort keep it at least in mind for future maps.
Kaeldori
299 posts
Joined July 2011
Kaeldori

Celektus wrote:

no kds

[ Kaeldori's Easy]
  1. most of the other diffs have the intro mapped and you could do that too with a lot of 2/1 or longer sliders and maybe circles to still have lower than usual rhythm density
  2. You could make all of these better blankets 00:15:550 (1,2,1) - 00:20:141 (2) - probably the same with a lot of other sliders.
    examples
  3. extend these two to the next red tick pls 00:28:407 (1,2) - as there is a stronger sound and a 3/2 gap should still be readable for players of this range
  4. 00:35:754 (1) -

    osu! Ranking Criteria wrote:

    1. Spinner recovery time should be at least 4 beats. This is to ensure adequate time to click a hit object following a spinner.
    it's also kind of a really short one at this BPM so consider changing it to a slider or something.

  5. I think ctrl + Ging this slider 00:37:590 (1) - and maybe tilting it by 18° like this one 00:39:427 (1) - would be more natural. Also there is no sound on a blue tick. I think it's fine but you represented the same sounds without a repeat right after 00:39:427 (1) -
  6. you could just copy the slider from before here 00:39:886 (2) - :eyes: . This repeats so it should be fine, but I think either would be rankable. (especially here 00:43:560 (2) - )
  7. why did you NC this? 01:09:733 (1) - I wouldn't recommend doing that every slider as 1 note combos are kinda dumb, especially since easy players kinda should start to learn with bigger combos how follow points work and how patterns group and stuff.
  8. make the blanket better here 01:11:570 (1) - blanket modding for no kds LUL
  9. pls add a circle here 01:21:366 - maybe just copy paste 01:20:754 (1) -
  10. It's kinda counter intuitive when you kiai is one of the least dense sections in your map 01:22:590 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4,1,2) - you should either have it be more dense or make some other sections more undermapped. Try out some easy fixes and maybe re map a section or 2, but if that's too much effort keep it at least in mind for future maps.

Thanks for your mod ! i apply all your change :D i still have problem with blanket
RandomPrson
33 posts
Joined February 2016
RandomPrson
late (as usual) and unorganized
feel free to take none of my advice

Kaeldori's Easy
maybe lower the od and hp by 1 or 2
00:24:733 (1,2,1) - the starting notes seem right but the end of 2 sounds like ending on the white tic after would be better
00:28:407 (1,2,3,4) - pay attention when you have parts like this cause the spaces inbetween 1,2,3 and 4 are all different in time but nearly the same visually
00:32:998 (2,1,2) - now this part has the same space in time but different space with note placement
00:46:774 (1,2,3) - ^^
01:09:733 (1,1,1,2,3) - could this be all 1 combo?
01:09:733 (1) - 01:13:407 (1) - 01:28:101 (1) - 01:40:958 (1) - i didnt pay much attention to other parts but try to keep the slant on the sliders the same instead of creating new ones
01:20:754 (1,2) - your stack leniancy is too low for this part
01:22:590 (1) - at the beginning of the kiai starting here you can try using more diversity alternating between the slider then circle pattern and using reverse sliders
(just an idea) 01:33:611 (1,2) - you can stack the 2 under the 1 for this part

Normal
cause its a normal there isnt much that can go wrong other than consistancy
01:01:449 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - wtf
00:39:427 (1) - mayble ctrl h this with it in the same spot?
01:13:713 (1) - needs more emphasis
01:10:039 (1) - ^^ i get that your stacking this note tho
01:19:835 (3,4) - what if the 3 was curved and the 4 was bent

Celektus' Hi-Speed Hard
too long of a name
you miss notes here 00:01:537 (1) - but add more feinght notes here 00:04:291 (3) - ?
was looking forward to the 2 notes that got cut off by this spinner 00:09:802 (1) -
00:21:136 (1,1) - make the spinner end on the white tic because the hit sound goes on the end of the slider
00:42:182 (6) - mabe a bit too, high some people have skins where the health bar can block that note and why does it have a red anchor
00:35:754 (4,5) - im a simple minded person but are these 2 supposed the be curved the opposite way?
the pattern starting here 00:46:774 (1) - is decent but because of the high bpm makes it seem forced for this map being a hard diff
01:01:544 (1) - add more recovery time after this spinner
01:10:039 (1) - why the red anchor
01:28:560 (6,7) - autistic sliders
01:05:754 (2) - this seems very unneeded
01:46:009 (5,6,7) - dont forget your making a hard so stuff like this becomes extreemly iffy

Light Insane
if theres one thing that describes insanes in osu its triples and small jumps, both of which are rarely in this map (hinting on making higher star rating)
small differences make a change like making the break end on the red tic before this 00:15:550 (1) -
on the first kiai 00:16:468 (3) - you make a stop here but the second time you continue the pattern with a slider 00:18:305 (1) - any specific reason?
00:21:060 (1) - try again the piano changes on the second slider tic in that so thats where you will want to change the slider
00:30:396 (2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4) - following the different line of music there seems really random
00:37:590 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - this burst stream seems wastes with how it kind of calms down right after maybe slider into 2 moved to a different spot delete 3 and make a jump to a triple (mini example )
00:46:774 (1) - part starting here gets a bit repetitive
the ending is decent

the rest of the diff are a bit too much for me (its 6am)
if any questions (i know there will be) ask me in osuwot
KnightC0re
212 posts
Joined February 2016
Topic Starter
KnightC0re

-Sepia- wrote:

Light Insane
if theres one thing that describes insanes in osu its triples and small jumps, both of which are rarely in this map (hinting on making higher star rating)
small differences make a change like making the break end on the red tic before this 00:15:550 (1) - fixed
on the first kiai 00:16:468 (3) - you make a stop here but the second time you continue the pattern with a slider 00:18:305 (1) - any specific reason? um... no. thanks for pointing out, fixed
00:21:060 (1) - try again the piano changes on the second slider tic in that so thats where you will want to change the slider fixed
00:30:396 (2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4) - following the different line of music there seems really random fixed
00:37:590 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - this burst stream seems wastes with how it kind of calms down right after maybe slider into 2 moved to a different spot delete 3 and make a jump to a triple (mini example )
00:46:774 (1) - part starting here gets a bit repetitive I changed a bit
the ending is decent
k good now its 3.85*
thanks for the mod :)
-jordan-
692 posts
Joined October 2015
-jordan-

-Sepia- wrote:

late (as usual) and unorganized
feel free to take none of my advice

cause its a normal there isnt much that can go wrong other than consistancy
01:01:449 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - wtf tbh i dont see a problem with this pattern. can you explain more?
00:39:427 (1) - mayble ctrl h this with it in the same spot? ok, made it blanket too
01:13:713 (1) - needs more emphasis The awkward change in flow from both 01:13:407 (4,1) - and the slider movement coming back on itself is enough emphasis.
01:10:039 (1) - ^^ i get that your stacking this note tho There is like a gap pause in the music here so during this i would like minimal movement, so actually underemphasizing this slider makes sense
01:19:835 (3,4) - what if the 3 was curved and the 4 was bent then 01:20:294 (4,1) - wouldnt be a blanket
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Celektus
694 posts
Joined April 2014
Celektus

RandomPrson wrote:

late (as usual) and unorganized
feel free to take none of my advice

[Celektus' Hi-Speed Hard]too long of a name
no lol example: https://osu.ppy.sh/b/895077
you miss notes here 00:01:537 (1) - but add more feinght notes here 00:04:291 (3) - ?
it's overall undermapped since the section is really calm except for 00:04:291 (3) -since it's a different sound, it's like a chime thingy
was looking forward to the 2 notes that got cut off by this spinner 00:09:802 (1) -
yea good point I didn't know the SV trick to handle red lines before, but now I do so I mapped them
00:21:136 (1,1) - make the spinner end on the white tic because the hit sound goes on the end of the slider
yea thx
00:42:182 (6) - mabe a bit too, high some people have skins where the health bar can block that note and why does it have a red anchor
yea I lowerred it so it at least doesn't block the std skins bar and the red anchor is there to make both straight sliders before and after the sliders still symmetrical compare 00:41:723 (5,6) - with 00:42:182 (6,1) -
00:35:754 (4,5) - im a simple minded person but are these 2 supposed the be curved the opposite way?
hmm I rotated 4 by 180° and ctrl+g'd it not sure if you meant that tho but it should be more consistent with 00:34:529 (2,3) - now
the pattern starting here 00:46:774 (1) - is decent but because of the high bpm makes it seem forced for this map being a hard diff
well I would prefer some suggestions on how to change it since to me the pattern is fine enough so re imagining the section seems redundant to me, I also wanna mention that you could technically only click the head and not move through the whole thing because of slider leniency
01:01:544 (1) - add more recovery time after this spinner
sure not really apparent to me why, but sure
01:10:039 (1) - why the red anchor
cause there's a different sounds I wanna make different looking lel
01:28:560 (6,7) - autistic sliders
:thinking:
01:05:754 (2) - this seems very unneeded
well I have no other idea how to map that reversing sound into a like Kick burst thingy without using a slider. I could do a circle at the red tick, but that's a bad solution imo
01:46:009 (5,6,7) - dont forget your making a hard so stuff like this becomes extreemly iffy
yea I agree tho it's justifiable I think since it's that hardest part of the song
also @KnightC0re I wanted to change the stack leniency so 01:50:141 (3,4) - perfectly overlaps, but my editor glitched or something so I didn't do it, would be great if you could do that

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Ayzer
36 posts
Joined March 2015
Ayzer
Hey

I like this map, good luck for rank it!
7ambda
2,560 posts
Joined January 2015
7ambda
source isn't Deemo, lmao
KnightC0re
212 posts
Joined February 2016
Topic Starter
KnightC0re

F1r3tar wrote:

source isn't Deemo, lmao
Well... well bg is so shut it, baka.
7ambda
2,560 posts
Joined January 2015
7ambda

KnightC0re wrote:

Well... well bg is so shut it, baka.
you literally could have looked at https://osu.ppy.sh/s/225377 for the source though
PantyDev
94 posts
Joined December 2014
PantyDev
Hello, i'm from modding queue (NM)

  • [Kaeldori's Easy]
  1. 00:17:386 (1,2,3) - what about distance snap?
  2. 00:28:407 (1,2,3) - ^
  3. 00:18:305 (2,1) - do blanket please
  4. 00:18:305 (2,2) - mb stack this objects?
  5. 00:19:223 (1,3) - ^
  6. 00:35:754 (5) - wtf. What happened to the skeleton of the slider? Why is it not symmetric?
  7. 00:38:050 (2,3) - Objects too far from each other
  8. 00:46:774 (1,2) - too close
  9. 01:19:835 (2,1,2) - ^
  10. 01:06:060 (1,4) - mb stack?
  11. 01:11:570 (1,2) - fix blanket
  12. 01:14:019 (2,1,2) - fix distance, pattern is strange
  13. 01:30:856 (2,1) - make it identical, but flipped.
    [-Jordan-'s Tragic Love Normal]
  14. 00:08:578 (2,3,1) - i think you must fix this little overlap.
  15. 01:01:449 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - are you kidding?
  16. 01:30:550 (2,1,2,3,1) - this flow is sooo strange, maybe a smooth turn, not a right angle?
  17. 01:45:550 (1,2,3,1) - ^
  18. 01:43:254 (2,1) - overlap
  19. 01:47:080 (2,1) - fix distance 2
    [Celektus' Hi-Speed Hard]
  20. 00:16:468 (4,1) - maybe stack, not overlap?
  21. 01:21:365 (1,1) - ugly overlap
    damn, so many overlaps. but i like it.
    [Light Insane]
  22. 00:57:794 (1,2,3,1) - ugly overlap and pattern, mb 00:57:794 (1,1) - make a blanket?
  23. 01:09:733 (1,2) - wtf, this tap is so far
  24. 01:46:468 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - beautiful
    [Insane]
  25. 00:15:550 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - overlap, mb stack it?
  26. 00:17:386 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - ^
  27. 00:19:682 (1,1) - ^
  28. 00:19:070 (2,1) - too close?
  29. 00:19:988 (5,1) - mb stack it?
  30. 00:27:488 (2,2) - ^
  31. 00:29:325 (3,4) - tap is too far. and make blanket please.
  32. 00:37:743 (2,5,1) - pattern looks some ugly
  33. 00:42:182 (1,2) - overlap
  34. 00:44:784 (8,5) - ^
  35. 00:48:458 (4,2) - ^
  36. 01:10:958 (1,1) - ^
  37. 01:13:713 (1,2) - ^
  38. 01:25:192 (5,5) - ^
  39. 01:12:488 (1,2,3,4,5) - shitty jump and pattern
  40. 01:14:937 (5,1) - too close
  41. 01:15:243 (1,2) - ^
  42. 01:36:136 (4,5,3) - ^
  43. 01:24:121 (2,1,2) - ^ overlap
  44. 01:18:304 (2,1) - too far
  45. 01:27:641 (2,1) - mb make a same sliders?
  46. 01:29:325 (2,1) - mb stack it?
  47. 01:33:458 (5,2) - ^
  48. 01:43:407 (2,2) - ^
  49. 01:30:703 (4,1,2) - ugly pattern
  50. 01:43:407 (2,2) - ^
    sorry but all of these overlaps doesn't look like "special feature" :|
    [Menda's Extra]
  51. 00:28:866 (3,2) - overlap
  52. 00:39:121 (1,3) - ^
  53. 00:42:182 (1,4) - ^
  54. 00:52:437 (2,4) - ^
  55. 01:16:774 (3,1) - ^
  56. 00:50:447 (3) - ignoring beats
  57. 01:01:468 (1,2) - make blanket
  58. 01:46:162 (3,4) - why this pattern, and why he is a one?
    [Heaven]
  59. 00:03:680 (1,1) - stack it
  60. 00:03:680 (1,1) - ^

MrMenda
301 posts
Joined December 2015
MrMenda

PantyDev wrote:

Hello, i'm from modding queue (NM)

  • [Menda's Extra]
  1. 00:28:866 (3,2) - overlap Sure
  2. 00:39:121 (1,3) - ^ Those are independent patterns and in the playfield it shouldnt suppose a problem
  3. 00:42:182 (1,4) - ^ sure
  4. 00:52:437 (2,4) - ^ In this case I avoided the overlap tho
  5. 01:16:774 (3,1) - ^ Same as above
  6. 00:50:447 (3) - ignoring beats That slider there is meant to give the players a break before the stream, making another long stream would represent a spike in there
  7. 01:01:468 (1,2) - make blanket fixed
  8. 01:46:162 (3,4) - why this pattern, and why he is a one? What's so wrong with it? I used it in the first kiai
Thanks for modding!

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KnightC0re
212 posts
Joined February 2016
Topic Starter
KnightC0re

PantyDev wrote:


  • [Light Insane]
  1. 00:57:794 (1,2,3,1) - ugly overlap and pattern, mb 00:57:794 (1,1) - make a blanket? fixed
  2. 01:09:733 (1,2) - wtf, this tap is so far fixed
  3. 01:46:468 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - beautiful Thank you :D
    [Insane]
  4. 00:15:550 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - overlap, mb stack it? I moved it away instead
  5. 00:17:386 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - ^ Fixed
  6. 00:19:682 (1,1) - ^ Intentional
  7. 00:19:070 (2,1) - too close? fixed
  8. 00:19:988 (5,1) - mb stack it? fixed
  9. 00:27:488 (2,2) - ^ fixed
  10. 00:29:325 (3,4) - tap is too far. and make blanket please. fixed
  11. 00:37:743 (2,5,1) - pattern looks some ugly fixed
  12. 00:42:182 (1,2) - overlap fixed
  13. 00:44:784 (8,5) - ^ moving would disturb my current pattern :/
  14. 00:48:458 (4,2) - ^ fixed
  15. 01:10:958 (1,1) - ^ fixed
  16. 01:13:713 (1,2) - ^ i'll keep it
  17. 01:25:192 (5,5) - ^ stacked
  18. 01:12:488 (1,2,3,4,5) - shitty jump and pattern fixed
  19. 01:14:937 (5,1) - too close i think it's fine
  20. 01:15:243 (1,2) - ^ fixed
  21. 01:36:136 (4,5,3) - ^ fixed
  22. 01:24:121 (2,1,2) - ^ overlap fixed
  23. 01:18:304 (2,1) - too far fixed
  24. 01:27:641 (2,1) - mb make a same sliders? fixed
  25. 01:29:325 (2,1) - mb stack it? stacked
  26. 01:33:458 (5,2) - ^ fixed
  27. 01:43:407 (2,2) - ^ fixed
  28. 01:30:703 (4,1,2) - ugly pattern changed
  29. 01:43:407 (2,2) - ^ yeah i fixed that... like 20 seconds ago
    sorry but all of these overlaps doesn't look like "special feature" :|
    [Heaven]
  30. 00:03:680 (1,1) - stack it fixed
  31. 00:03:680 (1,1) - ^ ...wait what
KnightC0re
212 posts
Joined February 2016
Topic Starter
KnightC0re

-Jordan- wrote:

00:08:578 (2,3,1) - i think you must fix this little overlap. i am fixings this overlap for the blankets
01:01:449 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - are you kidding? yes
01:30:550 (2,1,2,3,1) - this flow is sooo strange, maybe a smooth turn, not a right angle?
01:45:550 (1,2,3,1) - ^ for you i making the nice smooth flows
01:43:254 (2,1) - overlap yes
01:47:080 (2,1) - fix distance 2 yes
MrMenda
301 posts
Joined December 2015
MrMenda
I'll make a quick visual rearrangement soon, in case any mods come before I can manage to do that
-jordan-
692 posts
Joined October 2015
-jordan-

MrMenda wrote:

I'll make a quick visual rearrangement soon, in case any mods come before I can manage to do that
tryhard
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