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nano - Nevereverland [Osu|Taiko]

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Tags:naoki itou n neko アークix nifty cordi victorfernando -tochi starset hb24
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Topic Starter
zhu

Mishima Yurara wrote:

00:26:134 (4,5,6) - misplaced stack and 6 should be a new combo not 00:26:934 (1) - Tbh
00:29:534 (1,2,3) - th u should focus on putting ncs on the BNig White Ticks isntead of the heads of triples and shit Lol
should take more consideration about ur visual spacing consistency and overlaps such as 01:04:737 (3,4,1) - and 01:06:339 (6,4) - being rediculously close 2gether or 01:06:194 (5,1) - 01:09:397 (3,4,1) - having inconsistent visual overlap distance, helps make ur map much cleaner
same with using patterns together like 00:51:630 (1,2,3,4,5) - and 00:52:504 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - looks weird when u completely stack in1 pattern but only custom stack in the other pattern Lol
ur alternation between vopcals and drums is also very inconsistent (specifically in the verse, the kiai seems to be very well done rhythmically-speaking) where u alternate a few times between 1/1 and 3/4 sliders while also randomly switching between wot the 1/2 sliders and circles r mapping to as well between vocals and drums, its kinda prety really Super Weird

01:51:047 - also prety weird to just leave this when the whole kiai is mapped to the vocals
02:09:979 (7,1) - nc swap

i think the main problem is that ur visual spacing is just super inconsistent (especially with stacking), some of the ncs are done weirdly/for the sake of design instead of playability/based on the music, and rhythms in the verse are kind of whack, if u polish them up throuhgouht the whole map it could make it significantly better overall


sry 4 taking 50 yrs
oh god took you long enough
Topic Starter
zhu

He said it bois. I removed override and border color from all difs made no other changes.
Jonarwhal
mod from queue: https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/689354/start=0
[Nifteh]
  1. Your Oni needs to be nerfed or your Inner Oni needs to be increased in some sections.
    Example:
    Preferably you nerf the Oni there. Thanks >W</~
  2. I know I'm not seeing unsnapped notes
  3. 02:14:639 - This kiai needs to be snapped too
That's important so I'll continue later. Call me back!
Nifty
snapped kiais, did nerfs to section. the rest of the diff should be fairly balanced, it looked like just the beginning was wonky

muzu
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victorfernando

Namki wrote:

[Victor's Hard]
  1. I don't really know if this concern of mine is that solid here since it's Hard and it's not supposed to be complex and reflect music by 100 percent but still. 00:46:824 (1,2) - it's stacked and 00:46:824 - stronger than 00:46:970 - so it's logical to stack these but on the other hand 00:47:407 (4,5) - music is pretty the same for 00:47:407 - and 00:47:553 - (I would even say 00:47:553 - is more prominent) so it lacks logic. The same here 00:52:358 (4,5) - it's even the new measure. I suggest you to keep some of the stacks and remove stacks on that prominent sounds.
  2. 00:49:591 (6) - that's too obvious issue as for me. Replace it?
  3. 01:01:679 - want to see a circle here.
  4. Maybe NC every 01:48:717 (3) - / 01:49:591 (5) - / 01:50:319 (7) - and 01:51:047 (8) - . The last two ones defenitely should be NC'd and 01:51:339 (9,1) - switched NC for sure.
  5. 01:50:319 (7) - the same concern as for Very Hard. You expressed it in the same way as 01:47:844 (1) - / 01:48:717 (3) - and 01:49:591 (5) - so maybe circles for variety. fixed NC thing's , and changed the part of repeat, but the stack's i will see
victorfernando

PandaHero wrote:

[victorfernando]
Ah, I would recommend you to use cs 3.5-3.8 since Light Insane use 3.5 if I use low cs, space gets low so no .3.

00:11:134 (4,1) - try 1/1 slider + note instead? It will fit song better imo https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9989278
00:57:019 (4) - this pause confused me a bit? Try to add note on red tick and 1/2 slider on white, this is how the normies map such places
01:48:717 (3,5,7,8) - nc spam to show pauses in music to people?
01:54:979 (4,5) - players on this lvl can missread this thing
fixed all
victorfernando

Myxomatosis wrote:

[Viktor's Hard]

  1. why is the second half of the kiai not hitsounded? (now it's hitsounded)
  2. in general, the spacings seem rather messy. there's almost no consistency in spacing, which is especially noticeable in calmer parts with fewer halfbeat rhythms. examples: 00:06:534 (3,4,5,1) - 3 different spacings for the same gap here, 00:13:334 (2,3,4,1,2) - this part uses similar distances for 1/1 and 3/2-gaps, 00:19:334 (1,2) - here the 1/1-spacing is the same as the halfbeat spacing right afterwards. i'd really recommend you to clean this up a bit and try to stick to similar distances throughout, unless you want to emphasize something special or it's needed for your patterning. if you need help with this or want more explanations find me ingame
  3. 00:31:734 (4,5) - seems quite out of place to have an extended slider (3/4-slider) here, since you don't use it anywhere else. turning it into a halfbeat slider would be more fitting. http://puu.sh/z0M9O/e76fbe14f4.jpg
fixed all :3
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232,168,81339,6,0,L|240:104,1,55
328,64,81630,2,0,L|320:128,1,55
376,192,81921,1,0,0:0:0:0:
376,192,82067,1,0,0:0:0:0:
440,240,82213,2,0,B|448:296|448:296|432:352,1,110
312,304,82795,6,0,L|192:288,1,110,10|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
128,320,83232,1,0,0:0:0:0:
64,272,83378,2,0,B|88:208|48:208|72:144,1,110,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
120,104,83815,2,0,P|168:88|232:120,1,110,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
264,184,84252,2,0,P|296:152|304:128,2,55,2|0|2,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
192,240,84834,5,8,0:0:0:0:
192,240,84980,2,0,L|184:304,1,55,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
104,328,85271,1,0,0:0:0:0:
104,328,85417,2,0,L|96:208,1,110,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
40,159,85853,2,0,L|48:31,1,110,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
120,16,86290,6,0,L|200:24,1,55,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
264,96,86582,2,0,L|208:96,2,55,8|0|2,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
368,168,87164,2,0,P|376:208|376:248,1,55,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
320,280,87455,1,2,0:0:0:0:
320,280,87601,1,0,0:0:0:0:
248,328,87747,6,0,B|192:344|192:344|128:320,1,110,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
96,264,88184,2,0,B|120:208|80:208|104:144,1,110,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
160,96,88620,2,0,L|224:104,1,55
280,168,88912,1,0,0:0:0:0:
280,168,89057,2,0,L|264:240,2,55,0|2|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
328,96,89494,1,0,0:0:0:0:
400,48,89640,5,0,0:0:0:0:
400,48,89786,2,0,B|416:96|416:96|392:176,1,110,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
360,224,90222,2,0,B|336:280|376:280|352:336,1,110,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
280,376,90659,2,0,P|232:368|216:360,1,55,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
168,304,90951,1,8,0:0:0:0:
168,304,91096,1,0,0:0:0:0:
128,224,91242,2,0,P|128:184|136:152,1,55
264,152,107844,6,0,P|261:115|272:80,2,55,2|0|2,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
296,224,108280,1,0,0:0:0:0:
384,296,108717,6,0,P|412:289|448:296,2,55,2|0|2,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
320,344,109154,1,0,0:0:0:0:
184,272,109591,6,0,P|188:305|176:344,2,55,2|0|2,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
144,200,110028,1,0,0:0:0:0:
304,120,110319,5,0,0:0:0:0:
304,120,110465,2,0,P|304:176|296:192,1,55
144,200,111047,6,0,P|136:160|144:128,1,55
190,26,111339,2,0,P|191:53|184:80,1,55,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
137,146,111630,6,0,L|57:146,2,60.5000018463135,8|2|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
216,168,112067,1,0,0:0:0:0:
288,224,112212,2,0,L|288:312,1,60.5000018463135,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
368,320,112504,2,0,L|368:232,1,60.5000018463135,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
384,152,112795,5,8,0:0:0:0:
320,80,112940,2,0,P|272:96|192:64,1,121.000003692627,2|0,0:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
136,40,113377,1,8,0:0:0:0:
136,40,113523,1,2,0:0:0:0:
72,104,113669,2,0,L|8:88,2,60.5000018463135,4|2|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
136,152,114105,6,0,B|112:208|160:208|120:288,1,121.000003692627,0|2,0:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
68,321,114542,2,0,P|108:345|132:345,1,60.5000018463135,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
200,320,114834,1,0,0:0:0:0:
263,271,114979,2,0,L|260:197,1,60.5000018463135,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
335,124,115271,2,0,L|342:247,1,121.000003692627,2|0,0:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
382,316,115707,6,0,P|417:322|447:313,1,60.5000018463135,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
477,242,115999,1,0,0:0:0:0:
437,171,116144,2,0,L|432:107,1,60.5000018463135,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
374,48,116436,1,2,0:0:0:0:
374,48,116581,6,0,B|326:64|326:64|246:32,1,121.000003692627,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
181,21,117018,2,0,L|117:45,1,60.5000018463135,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
64,103,117309,1,2,0:0:0:0:
64,103,117455,2,0,B|85:155|85:155|56:239,1,121.000003692627,12|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
68,298,117892,5,2,0:0:0:0:
68,298,118038,2,0,L|149:299,1,60.5000018463135,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
206,255,118329,2,0,L|278:253,2,60.5000018463135,4|2|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
161,185,118766,2,0,P|145:105|177:57,1,121.000003692627,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
239,40,119203,1,8,0:0:0:0:
309,93,119348,2,0,L|389:85,1,60.5000018463135,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
432,144,119639,1,2,0:0:0:0:
432,144,119785,6,0,B|448:200|448:200|424:272,1,121.000003692627,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
352,304,120222,1,0,0:0:0:0:
280,256,120368,2,0,L|224:248,3,30.2500009231568,0|0|2|0,0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
208,248,120659,2,0,L|128:240,1,60.5000018463135,4|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
80,296,120950,1,8,0:0:0:0:
40,224,121096,2,0,L|48:88,1,121.000003692627,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
136,48,121533,6,0,L|128:128,1,60.5000018463135,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
216,192,121824,2,0,L|208:120,1,60.5000018463135
272,72,122115,1,0,0:0:0:0:
272,72,122261,2,0,B|336:88|336:88|408:64,1,121.000003692627,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
459,116,122698,1,8,0:0:0:0:
460,202,122843,2,0,P|384:153|394:61,1,181.500005538941,2|0,0:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
328,8,123426,5,2,0:0:0:0:
272,72,123572,2,0,L|144:56,1,121.000003692627,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
96,120,124008,2,0,B|104:176|104:176|80:240,1,121.000003692627,4|2,0:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
48,312,124445,1,8,0:0:0:0:
48,312,124591,2,0,P|75:323|128:312,1,60.5000018463135
176,272,124882,2,0,P|240:256|304:288,1,121.000003692627,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
368,240,125319,6,0,P|363:204|376:160,1,60.5000018463135,6|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
436,72,125610,2,0,P|444:112|436:144,1,60.5000018463135,10|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
360,104,125902,2,0,B|326:100|326:100|288:112,1,60.5000018463135,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
224,144,126193,2,0,L|216:224,1,60.5000018463135,10|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
304,272,126484,2,0,L|312:192,1,60.5000018463135,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
248,329,126775,2,0,P|312:353|368:321,1,121.000003692627,12|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
424,284,127212,5,2,0:0:0:0:
424,284,127358,2,0,L|496:284,1,60.5000018463135,12|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
480,208,127649,2,0,B|464:152|464:152|488:80,1,121.000003692627,6|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
416,40,128086,2,0,L|336:32,1,60.5000018463135,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
304,104,128377,2,0,L|248:80,1,60.5000018463135,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
176,104,128669,2,0,B|152:152|152:152|176:224,1,121.000003692627
240,272,129105,1,8,0:0:0:0:
240,272,129251,2,0,L|232:352,1,60.5000018463135
383,282,129688,6,0,L|388:196,1,60.5000018463135,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
393,143,129979,1,4,0:0:0:0:
287,69,130271,2,0,B|231:77|231:77|167:45,1,121.000003692627,10|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
94,94,130707,1,0,0:0:0:0:
94,94,130853,6,0,P|121:156|94:230,1,121.000003692627,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
75,286,131290,1,0,0:0:0:0:
75,286,131436,2,0,P|123:294|147:286,1,60.5000018463135,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
202,242,131727,2,0,P|233:236|273:244,1,60.5000018463135,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
302,317,132018,2,0,P|330:322|384:316,1,60.5000018463135,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
430,367,132309,2,0,P|446:311|405:244,1,121.000003692627,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
365,191,132746,6,0,B|357:151|357:151|373:63,1,121.000003692627,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
295,37,133183,2,0,L|282:102,1,60.5000018463135,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
224,150,133474,2,0,P|158:206|178:290,2,181.500005538941,14|2|2,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
237,232,134639,1,6,0:2:0:0:
Jonarwhal
rawr
Topic Starter
zhu

Jonawaga wrote:

rawr
rawr ❤
Shiguma
Your Neverever...

full version

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Topic Starter
zhu

Shiguma wrote:

Your Neverever...

full version

;)
nani
MaridiuS
The promised mod

[Redemption]

The rhythm in the map doesn't seem to be executed on point. At times you fully follow the prime layers like synth or vocals, but sometimes you just decide to ignore it for some drums or indistinct guitar. Here is how I think it could be improved and why with examples.
  1. 00:40:854 - In this section there is the prime bass guitar and a solo guitar. You kept following the bass guitar until 00:43:766 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - . In this example you switched to the solo guitar, which has a much higher pitch while the bass guitar is doing something too. Usually you'll want to switch layers when the one you were following completely settles down. Other than that high pitched guitar is left ear, bass is right ear so you have no idea how difficult it was for me to notice the change in layers. My suggestion would be to keep following bass guitar here, like make https://i.imgur.com/krSAeul.jpg this rhythm where all bass guitar sounds will be followed.
  2. 00:50:174 - The synth is making the melody in this section (we talked about what is a synth, its an electronic piano). So I assumed that the map should express that melody on point like you do on these sliders 00:50:174 (1,2,6,1,2,6) - . You should try this rhythm https://i.imgur.com/MGKXkm8.jpg because all clickable things will be only for synth rather than including not so relevant drum or guitar. You can include possible variations such as https://i.imgur.com/i7exSlW.jpg or https://i.imgur.com/Bk517o5.jpg . Applies to the whole section.
  3. 01:03:718 (6) - This note is empty, it has no sound in the song. 01:04:009 (8) - You should also consider not mapping this note so that you can give full emphasis to guitar. Vocals without any bgm, drum or guitar backup generally are really weak and mostly irrelevant to map, I think this is that case.
  4. 01:22:795 - In this section you should either follow the bass guitar or the synth. 01:25:125 - this sound is really irrelevant compared to the bass guitar and vastly different from it. By mapping both, the rhythm gets messed up, so either do https://i.imgur.com/yzjbIWq.jpg or https://i.imgur.com/Bkbe4xn.jpg. Most humans are not capable of following two different melodies at once (only the really trained ones like professional pianists), which is why I suggest you to follow one throughout. Repeats to other cases like this 01:25:999 - 01:27:455 - 01:29:494 - ..... 01:28:038 (6,7) - you did it nicely here
  5. 01:51:339 (2) - This note is too strong not to be a slider tbh, its tons stronger than 01:51:484 (3) - bcs more prominent guitar vocal and drums ;/. 02:02:989 (2,3) - Applies to this too.
  6. 02:01:096 (3,4) - By ctrl+ging here you will follow the vocals on point, you shouldn't make drums without vocals clickable if you did not till now.
The aesthetics could also use some work.
  1. 00:45:514 (1,3,5,7) - These seem really randomly placed. They all sound similar in the song, they are in the same combo, yet you change their shape and placing all the time. I suggest you do something nicer and more organized, like switch between two slider shapes (only copy paste and rotate by 90 degrees), don't overlap stuff if you won't overlap all the stuff. My example: https://i.imgur.com/SOERdGc.jpg , don't mind the movement, i just made a good looking pattern real fast.
  2. 00:52:213 (11,1,2) - A bit complicated to explain in a simple way, but if you use patterns such as this, it is a good idea to blanket them like https://i.imgur.com/hV6bxLd.jpg it should look much better.
  3. 00:58:038 (5) - Sliders shouldn't be tilted this much (blame the meta). Check pishifat video about aesthetics and slidershapes https://i.imgur.com/eaeJwSk.jpg this is about the max rotation until it starts looking bad :/.
  4. 00:54:834 (1,2,4) - Consider putting the circle in the middle so it gets blanketed by 2 sliders https://i.imgur.com/q21qAC2.jpg
  5. 01:05:611 (7,10) - You should avoid placing objects so close to each other, I moved it just slightly https://i.imgur.com/LNKToIR.jpg but it should give much more space. Applies to many examples in this map like 01:25:125 (3,5) - 01:27:747 (5,7) - 01:55:707 (1,3) - idk picked random examples, some may look okay but generally its a good idea to give bigger spacing between objects.
Generally I'd advise looking into pishifat videos about aesthetics and slidershapes. Hopefully this mod will not be to hard to understand since there could be language barriers.

https://osu.ppy.sh/s/690966 if you've found this mod helpful, this is the mapset for m4m. If you don't have much time, just mod top and bottom diff.
Topic Starter
zhu

MaridiuS wrote:

The promised mod

[Redemption]

The rhythm in the map doesn't seem to be executed on point. At times you fully follow the prime layers like synth or vocals, but sometimes you just decide to ignore it for some drums or indistinct guitar. Here is how I think it could be improved and why with examples.
  1. 00:40:854 - In this section there is the prime bass guitar and a solo guitar. You kept following the bass guitar until 00:43:766 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - . In this example you switched to the solo guitar, which has a much higher pitch while the bass guitar is doing something too. Usually you'll want to switch layers when the one you were following completely settles down. Other than that high pitched guitar is left ear, bass is right ear so you have no idea how difficult it was for me to notice the change in layers. My suggestion would be to keep following bass guitar here, like make https://i.imgur.com/krSAeul.jpg this rhythm where all bass guitar sounds will be followed.
  2. 00:50:174 - The synth is making the melody in this section (we talked about what is a synth, its an electronic piano). So I assumed that the map should express that melody on point like you do on these sliders 00:50:174 (1,2,6,1,2,6) - . You should try this rhythm https://i.imgur.com/MGKXkm8.jpg because all clickable things will be only for synth rather than including not so relevant drum or guitar. You can include possible variations such as https://i.imgur.com/i7exSlW.jpg or https://i.imgur.com/Bk517o5.jpg . Applies to the whole section.
  3. 01:03:718 (6) - This note is empty, it has no sound in the song. 01:04:009 (8) - You should also consider not mapping this note so that you can give full emphasis to guitar. Vocals without any bgm, drum or guitar backup generally are really weak and mostly irrelevant to map, I think this is that case.
  4. 01:22:795 - In this section you should either follow the bass guitar or the synth. 01:25:125 - this sound is really irrelevant compared to the bass guitar and vastly different from it. By mapping both, the rhythm gets messed up, so either do https://i.imgur.com/yzjbIWq.jpg or https://i.imgur.com/Bkbe4xn.jpg. Most humans are not capable of following two different melodies at once (only the really trained ones like professional pianists), which is why I suggest you to follow one throughout. Repeats to other cases like this 01:25:999 - 01:27:455 - 01:29:494 - ..... 01:28:038 (6,7) - you did it nicely here
  5. 01:51:339 (2) - This note is too strong not to be a slider tbh, its tons stronger than 01:51:484 (3) - bcs more prominent guitar vocal and drums ;/. 02:02:989 (2,3) - Applies to this too.
  6. 02:01:096 (3,4) - By ctrl+ging here you will follow the vocals on point, you shouldn't make drums without vocals clickable if you did not till now.
The aesthetics could also use some work.
  1. 00:45:514 (1,3,5,7) - These seem really randomly placed. They all sound similar in the song, they are in the same combo, yet you change their shape and placing all the time. I suggest you do something nicer and more organized, like switch between two slider shapes (only copy paste and rotate by 90 degrees), don't overlap stuff if you won't overlap all the stuff. My example: https://i.imgur.com/SOERdGc.jpg , don't mind the movement, i just made a good looking pattern real fast.
  2. 00:52:213 (11,1,2) - A bit complicated to explain in a simple way, but if you use patterns such as this, it is a good idea to blanket them like https://i.imgur.com/hV6bxLd.jpg it should look much better.
  3. 00:58:038 (5) - Sliders shouldn't be tilted this much (blame the meta). Check pishifat video about aesthetics and slidershapes https://i.imgur.com/eaeJwSk.jpg this is about the max rotation until it starts looking bad :/.
  4. 00:54:834 (1,2,4) - Consider putting the circle in the middle so it gets blanketed by 2 sliders https://i.imgur.com/q21qAC2.jpg
  5. 01:05:611 (7,10) - You should avoid placing objects so close to each other, I moved it just slightly https://i.imgur.com/LNKToIR.jpg but it should give much more space. Applies to many examples in this map like 01:25:125 (3,5) - 01:27:747 (5,7) - 01:55:707 (1,3) - idk picked random examples, some may look okay but generally its a good idea to give bigger spacing between objects.
Generally I'd advise looking into pishifat videos about aesthetics and slidershapes. Hopefully this mod will not be to hard to understand since there could be language barriers.

https://osu.ppy.sh/s/690966 if you've found this mod helpful, this is the mapset for m4m. If you don't have much time, just mod top and bottom diff.
Fixed all. Thanks for the mod sir! i'll mod your map in 24 hours.
-Tochi
l e g e n d
sahuang
Mod here.

Normal
00:13:734 (1) - This is "okay" but generally, edgy and curvy sliders are not recommended in easier diffs like Normal. It is very easy for newbies to misread and have many issues with it.
00:25:734 (4,5) - The flow is not ideal imo, and the feel that 00:24:934 (3,5) - almost overlap is awkward. Suggest that you move 00:26:534 (5) - up above tail of 4 and adjust some spacings.
01:11:727 (3,4) - please improve blanket
01:12:310 (4,5) - same and there are many places the aesthetics is kinda bad, try to make them look good!
01:31:242 (4) - 1/2 slider seems better as it can represent all strong beats
02:07:649 (1,2) - Try not to do this in Normal. The anti-flow and spacing will be misleading for new players.
Also i'd say use 1/1 slider 02:09:105 - instead is much better.
01:51:339 (1,2) - incorrect DS

So I think it's ok but needs more aesthetics. Plus, since almost all of your rhythm is 1/2 and 1/1 spam, I would personally suggest that you rename it to easy and remove the lowest diff which is unnecessary. Easy is also messy and needs a lot of reword. It is missing many beats and thus feel uncomfortable.

Hard
00:49:883 (7,1) - 00:51:193 (4,1) - 00:53:523 (4,1) - etc. better to swap NC
00:54:834 (4) - NC
Not gonna mention those NC stuff
01:13:184 - it seems weird to have this downbeat as reverse sound
01:26:582 (2) - judging from music you could map it as 1/2 slider + 2 circles

Light Insane
00:15:534 (4,5,6) - this distance is uncomfortable and try to make intro DS consistent, maybe use 00:16:334 (6,1) - ds
01:05:320 (4) - rhythm is bad as you are not following music at all.01:05:756 - etc shouldnt be emphasised while 01:05:902 - should. Try
http://puu.sh/z790d/a91f38cee6.jpg
imo those empty parts at the beginning can be mapped a bit cuz rn it sounds too empty for me lol

Insane
00:44:350 (6) - why not use curve slider as before?
Seems ok overall, just need more polish on object aesthetics

Redemption
Use more NCs as the combo is so big now lol
01:21:630 - 01:21:921 - these should be downbeats but you are using them as stacking, which plays weird
I think you need to improve a lot on aesthetics. While the map has no unrankable issue, it has a lot of random spacing jumps as well as messy slider/circle combinations.
e.g. 00:54:252 (8,9,10,11) - i feel the spacing is suddenly increasing too fast and it's not expected
00:57:747 (4,5) - try similar shape
00:55:125 (2,4) - 01:09:397 (3,6) - etc kind of random overlaps
01:26:582 (9,10) - judging from music its better to sue circles instead of sliders cuz downbeats
01:59:639 (9,10) - messy

Basically i agree with mardius that you can have a lot of improvements because of the aesthetics issues. Still not bad as a new mapper map but yeah, keep improving xd
Topic Starter
zhu

sahuang wrote:

Mod here.

Normal
00:13:734 (1) - This is "okay" but generally, edgy and curvy sliders are not recommended in easier diffs like Normal. It is very easy for newbies to misread and have many issues with it.
00:25:734 (4,5) - The flow is not ideal imo, and the feel that 00:24:934 (3,5) - almost overlap is awkward. Suggest that you move 00:26:534 (5) - up above tail of 4 and adjust some spacings.
01:11:727 (3,4) - please improve blanket
01:12:310 (4,5) - same and there are many places the aesthetics is kinda bad, try to make them look good!
01:31:242 (4) - 1/2 slider seems better as it can represent all strong beats
02:07:649 (1,2) - Try not to do this in Normal. The anti-flow and spacing will be misleading for new players.
Also i'd say use 1/1 slider 02:09:105 - instead is much better.
01:51:339 (1,2) - incorrect DS

So I think it's ok but needs more aesthetics. Plus, since almost all of your rhythm is 1/2 and 1/1 spam, I would personally suggest that you rename it to easy and remove the lowest diff which is unnecessary. Easy is also messy and needs a lot of reword. It is missing many beats and thus feel uncomfortable.

Hard
00:49:883 (7,1) - 00:51:193 (4,1) - 00:53:523 (4,1) - etc. better to swap NC
00:54:834 (4) - NC
Not gonna mention those NC stuff
01:13:184 - it seems weird to have this downbeat as reverse sound
01:26:582 (2) - judging from music you could map it as 1/2 slider + 2 circles

Light Insane
00:15:534 (4,5,6) - this distance is uncomfortable and try to make intro DS consistent, maybe use 00:16:334 (6,1) - ds
01:05:320 (4) - rhythm is bad as you are not following music at all.01:05:756 - etc shouldnt be emphasised while 01:05:902 - should. Try
http://puu.sh/z790d/a91f38cee6.jpg
imo those empty parts at the beginning can be mapped a bit cuz rn it sounds too empty for me lol

Insane
00:44:350 (6) - why not use curve slider as before?
Seems ok overall, just need more polish on object aesthetics

Redemption
Use more NCs as the combo is so big now lol
01:21:630 - 01:21:921 - these should be downbeats but you are using them as stacking, which plays weird
I think you need to improve a lot on aesthetics. While the map has no unrankable issue, it has a lot of random spacing jumps as well as messy slider/circle combinations.
e.g. 00:54:252 (8,9,10,11) - i feel the spacing is suddenly increasing too fast and it's not expected
00:57:747 (4,5) - try similar shape
00:55:125 (2,4) - 01:09:397 (3,6) - etc kind of random overlaps
01:26:582 (9,10) - judging from music its better to sue circles instead of sliders cuz downbeats
01:59:639 (9,10) - messy

Basically i agree with mardius that you can have a lot of improvements because of the aesthetics issues. Still not bad as a new mapper map but yeah, keep improving xd
fixed all i guess?
victorfernando

sahuang wrote:

Mod here.

Hard
00:49:883 (7,1) - 00:51:193 (4,1) - 00:53:523 (4,1) - etc. better to swap NC
00:54:834 (4) - NC
Not gonna mention those NC stuff
01:13:184 - it seems weird to have this downbeat as reverse sound
01:26:582 (2) - judging from music you could map it as 1/2 slider + 2 circles

fixed all thanks!
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Okoratu
reply to p/6444565
Topic Starter
zhu

YukiZura- wrote:

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[Redemption]
00:14:934 (2) - how about replace this sldier with a note or extend it to here 00:15:334 - feels like that slider is out of place huhu fixed
01:07:941 (3,4,5) - nc all this slider to present the velocity changes changed the rhythm so dont need
02:01:096 (3) - tidy up pls ;-; for example fixed

00:49:300 (1) - wait why nc here lol .. should be here 00:49:082 (7) - fixed
00:50:174 (2,3) - i see your map use too many different slider shape , if you can pls avoid this because it makes the map look ugly (but slider map is another story xd) , if you decided with 00:50:174 (2) - this slider , 00:50:465 (3) - this slider also should be the same as the one before but difference rotation fixed
00:58:038 (6,1) - hurm bad transition , move the slider end to X:120 Y:148 for better transition fixed
01:51:047 (3) - no sound :( fixed

[insane]
00:34:334 (3) - remove whistle it sound better with whistle
01:14:932 (1) - nc here? sure
00:32:534 (8,1) - blanket this not going for blankets here
insane look good enough xd

[normal]
00:42:601 - why break here lol .. it is because im trying emphasize drum there
00:56:290 (2,1) - blanket pls fixed
02:06:484 (3,4) - hurm should be here 02:06:193 - , to avoid comfusing new player fixed

ok that's all ><
goodluck

Djulus wrote:

last
00:39:334 (1) - nc no its okay without nc
00:40:999 (2,3) - stacking on 1/4 so weirdly imo looks okay to me
01:07:941 (7,8,9) - that part needs more ds cuz this pattern looks weird imo fixed
02:13:474 (11) - nc fixed
02:13:620 (1) - it would be better if you put spinnner on blue tick no vocal im emphasizing starts from on redtick
insane
00:54:252 (6,8) - what about unstack 00:54:398 (7,9) - and pls nerf ds, too far for insane sound is enough strong to be emphasized that far on this part
00:58:621 (5,6) - same with ds sound is enough strong to be emphasized that far on this part
01:19:592 (6) - replace this circle on left side for better flow cuz ds looks weirdly sure
01:54:250 (4) - same with ds no ds feels okay
verY
01:43:183 (1,2) - what with ds,its should be better if you do for this same ds like 01:47:843 (1,2) - (i mean you should fix ds on slow part cuz looks weirdly for me) fixed
01:51:775 (2,3) - idk but you should fix ds uwu. fixed
nice diff btw
normal
00:21:934 (3,4) - fix ds fixed
this diff needs more aesthetics patterns not a just 1/4 jumps for example use some 1/2 sliders
easy
clean

Namki wrote:

[Redemption]
  1. 00:04:534 - / 00:05:734 - / 00:06:334 - / etc - they're giving too much feedback to player but there's no even a sound. I suggest you to silence sliderends. its better without silencing them imo
  2. 00:30:334 (4) - you are undermapping vocals right now, by judging the entire section I could say that you're prioritizing vocals over instrumentals and sometimes when vocals end you map according to instrumental. It's decent rhythm choice but this certain pattern breaks this idea. Consider replacing it with a circle on red tick and a 1/2 slider on white tick. fixed
  3. 00:40:999 (2,3) - pretty emphasis lacking pattern. 00:41:290 - music here is quite prominent for being understacked with a slider. Something like that would fit. fixed
  4. 00:43:038 (10) - don't you think it's too way prominent to have it that unemphasized? This sound is outstading and spacing should be so. Consider making spacing bigger for better emphasis. fixed
  5. 00:44:349 (5,6) - stack isn't something good to play here, you stop cursor movement and also it goes sorta inconsistent. fixed
  6. 00:54:252 (9,10,11,12) - music kinda changes here, bigger spacing for better emphasis? sure
  7. 00:57:601 (2,3,4) - spacing looks pretty illogical. 00:57:747 - it has more prominent sound under than this 00:57:892 - so the first circle should've spaced more than the second. fixed
  8. 01:21:922 (2,1,2,1) - flow is really uncomfortable here. Angle suddenly becomes too wide here 01:22:067 (1,2,1,2,3,4,5) - and it makes little sense as well. There are no sounds to change flow angle in this way. Consider making angle less wide, you can do it simply move this circle 01:22:212 (2) - somewhere down this circle 01:21:922 (2) - . Furthermore, if you make that jump bigger it would emphasize music better. For instance, https://namki.s-ul.eu/F0MKmd2D.jpg . remapped this section
  9. Okay, I will summarize my main concern for this diff. It's spacing emphasis. As I said earlier, map lacks it. Also, your map is pretty "generic" as they say so logic here is something about "more prominent sound - more spacing" and sometimes you are following this logic but sometimes you do not. Try to make it more consistent. Some examples: 01:23:815 (6) - it's like the peak of measure and beat is kinda audible, 01:25:417 (5) - too prominent for being stacked, 01:30:951 (4,5,6,7) - the same, 01:53:669 (3,4) - the same (but some stackes are perfectly fitting, I only pointed out these which had prominent sound on the second circle), etc. I think you've got my idea. remapped whole kiai
  10. 01:26:582 (5,6) - I'm quite satisfied with this one but you may like to follow 1/2 here, instead. Because these sound are kinda outstanding and they appear like only one time per part, so. Arguable. Try to recieve feedback on this. okay i will
  11. 01:41:145 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - that's soooo inaudible. Mind explaining what are you following there? remapped this section
  12. 01:45:441 (6,7) - minor. Maybe try to avoid overlap? fixed
  13. 01:51:047 (3) - this circle makes no sense at all. There's no music so I assume you were following vocals but how about this 01:51:193 - it has vocals, too! Consider either deleting this circle or add one more at 01:51:193 - . fixed
[Insane]
  1. Okay, I've pointed that quite few but 00:43:039 (1) - this sounds pretty weird, having such strong sound understacked isn't the best way of emphasizing things. The soulution would be simply unstack and make jump to that prominent sound. alright
  2. 00:45:514 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - nice triangles but they kinda cover theirselves and it goes visually unpleasant. Consider just placing it a bit right every time new triangle appear. Like that https://namki.s-ul.eu/52alsRvY.jpg nah id reather with this pattern it looks clean without moving them that way
  3. 00:47:407 - it defenitely has kinda audible sound. ok fixed
  4. And as I've pointed again 00:48:282 (2) - density is starting to rise and having small spacing makes little sense. If you had spacing acceleration fixed
  5. 01:01:242 (6,7,8,9) - it would be spacing-wise correct to make it that way because each of 01:01:387 (7,8,9) - have the same sound and the different one is 01:01:242 - . ok fixed
  6. 01:15:223 (2,3,4,5,1) - you are decelerating spacing which doesn't make sense at all, I agree with bigger spacing here 01:15:223 (2,3) - because of snare but 01:15:806 (1) - defenitely needs more spacing. Alright, I will not write just timestamps with "bigger spacing due to prominency" or "less spacing because of weakness". Will point out few patterns and you'll decide if you find my point of view correct. 01:20:465 - bigger due to prominency, 01:24:834 - the same, 01:53:376 (5,6) - bigger spacing because of vocals and less spacing makes little sense as music didn't become less strong, etc. You've got what I mean.fixed
  7. 01:22:359 (8) - NC because of other instrument is introduced. yeah
  8. 01:51:339 (1,3) - minor. It's overlapping just by one pixel, move it pleease?sure
[Very Hard]
  1. If higher difficulties were finу with NC here I recommend you to place NC every new measure, it's quite hard to deal with combo of 8 in Hard.
  2. 01:16:095 (2) - rhythm seems weird. Vocals are 1/2 as well as instrumentals, consider replacing with two 1/2 sliders.
  3. Spacing to 01:16:678 (3) - is too way small, you had 1.7x with 1/2 gap but this one looks like 1/2 pattern instead of 1/1. So, ye, bigger spacing for sure.
  4. 01:18:718 - mhm, this sudden rhythm change isn't really a good idea, try to fill this with objects. Also, spacing there as for 1/2 gap but you have there 3/4 gap.
  5. 01:24:834 (1,2) - switch NC. Also, they seem to correalte with each other but music is too different. Try differen slidershapes or angles.
  6. 01:50:319 (1) - you express this piano in the same way as 01:47:843 (1) - / 01:48:717 (1) - / etc. - so this rhythm-wise lacking, try just 3 circles with something about 1.2x spacing, istead.
  7. The rhythm in kiai is something I disagree with. So, why is this kiai? Because it's a chrous and it's music apogee but rhythm is undermapping both vocals and intrumentals also rhythms have too way little density. Also, spacing is even smaller than in non-kiai parts. I highly recommend you to reconsider kiai part fully with dense enough patterns and with logical spacing. dif is remapped into light insane


[Normal]
  1. I am not really sure if this recover time is enough 01:01:970 (1) - for 206 bpm. it is enough
  2. 01:20:466 (1,2) - and 01:47:261 (3,1) - stacks appear only twice per diff. It's really better to remove them as they do not go consistently so it's hard to handle with sudden stacks.sure
gl~



_Meep_ wrote:

From Meep's Love Live Modding Queue!
redemption
00:16:934 (3) - NC? ok
00:20:134 (4,1) - Swap NC and add NC on 00:21:534 (2) - ? ok
00:32:934 (1) - NC this i guess, plays and seems better. ok
00:40:854 - This parts' NCs are pretty long honestly, and it kinda looks bad imo. Look 01:04:154 - here and you can see you NCed every big white tick or notable vocal sound that introduced another part. Why not use the same NCing as the later part in the early parts of the song? The NCing in this song is really messy tbh. i fixed whole NC problems on this dif
01:07:941 (7,8,9) - honestly there wouldnt be any emphasis on any of them since the players would just be resting their cursors on the sliderheads ._. this would only work if they were 3/4s. fixed
01:11:145 (7) - NC this, why is the NCing different from 01:05:174 - ? i fixed whole NC problems on this dif
01:20:465 (6) - NC cause of loud sound i fixed whole NC problems on this dif
01:21:631 (2) - The jump part should start here, why is it that it starts on 01:21:485 (1) - ? Looking from 01:21:630 - the ncing pattern should also be something like fixed
01:23:815 (6) - why is this not NCed when 01:25:853 (1) - is? fixed
01:28:912 (1,2) - Swap NCs, it fits better. fixed
01:45:222 (5,6,7) - This just looks bad visually, i rather you either overlap it more, or dont overlap it at all. ok fixed
01:45:514 (7,4) - at least use the same slider fixed

insane
00:21:534 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - why is the DS changing so inconsistently here? If you want to map the increasing volume of the piano, increase the DS gradually. fixed
00:44:932 (1,2) - it's really hard to hit this 1/8 reverse slider without sliderbreaking, i strongly suggest you change this. fixed
01:10:272 (1) - this shouldnt be NCed according to how you mapped the earlier parts. ok
01:14:932 (1) - remove NC yes
01:49:008 (2,1) - this overlap ._. it looks fine
01:51:339 (1,3) - this too.. fixed
01:52:212 (4) - put the clap here instead of 01:52:358 (5) - , why would u clap to the vocals? fixed
01:59:347 (4,5,6,7) - flow is really bad here, players have to move they mouse further to the bottom left after already doing it once from 5-6, its annoying to hit and i think you should fix it. fixed
02:05:901 (5,2) - i can let this slip but u can change if u want ;/ fixed
I don't really see any consistent emphasis on notes that have claps or powerful sounds in the chorus, or actualy in the whole map. May want to look at this again and remap parts of it.

thats all for now
the spread is somewhat bad because you're going from 3* -> 3.5* -> 5* which is a pretty high jump if i do say so miyself, therefore i suggest you add in a light insane or buff the hard got new light insane dif
Cordie
Normal difficulty as requested. Hope it works.

zzz
oosu file format v14

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Topic Starter
zhu
ёоо плИИС РАААААААААААНК!!!!!!!!
- Frontier -
pm req

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    2. normal-hitclap.wav
    3. normal-hitclap2.wav
    I've tried checking all of these and it looks like they really have a delay. So try to cut them.
  2. it's a cut version so you might add "cut version" in tags. >:(
[Cordi's Normal]
  1. As a current Ranking Criteria states, the lowest difficult difficulty must not be above 2 stars!!
  2. 00:39:334 (4) - The lump thingy is very unrecommended because the slider path doesn't look clear enough for newbie players to understand, that could cause newbies players a confuse. Reminder this is the lowest difficulty and it should be beginner-friendly difficulty. This problem could cause newbie players a confuse. It'd be better to change the slider to plain circle slider for newbie players to understand.
  3. 00:40:854 to 00:45:514 - It is unjustified to leave the empty space here without a blank. Players could failed at this part if the players' health point is really low. Because leaving this part a blank, the health point could decrease. If the situation happened, players' health bar will slowly decrease and finally died. And there is no reason to leave this as a blank anyway so please add a break here.
  4. 01:05:902 (4) - In my perspective it will be better to flip this slider vertically and horizontally. (as known as ctrl+j and ctrl+h) Using the same slider shape as the previous slider looks sloppy and monotonous. But flipping this slider vertically and horizontally could make the slider have the variation and the flow here will look much smoother.
  5. 01:10:562 (4,2) - So try not to make the slider tail 01:10:562 (4) - overlaps with the slider tail 01:11:436 (2) -. It looks anticlimactic.
  6. 02:09:979 (1) - Making an unjustified jump in lower difficulties is strongly unacceptable here. Since it is a lowest difficulty in the mapset, the difficulty should be beginner-friendly difficulty for newbie players to play with, but this unjustified jump could be a strong unfair playing challenge for newbie players!!(just kidding lol. I know you are just forgot to reverse the slider back.)
  7. 02:13:474 (1) - Players could rarely see the slider head because the slider tail 02:12:309 (1) - is perfectly overlapping the slider head, causing an unfair reading challenge for newbie players. I'd recommend to reverse this slider so it will be easier for players to see.
Pretty neat!

[Victor's Hard]
  1. Widescreen support is being ticked.
  2. 00:06:534 (3,4,5,1) - Making the flow back and forth could be sloppy and repetitive. I'd be better to move the hitcircle 00:08:134 (5) - away so it will not be boring.
  3. 00:10:534 - Since the piano plays here, this spot shouldn't be a passive notes in my perspective. You might make a pattern here like this to emphasize the piano sound.
  4. 00:10:534 (4,5,6) - This hitobjects here (as well as the following ones which in this part) has barely the difference spacing between the previous hitobjects (which have 1/1 beat gap). This could make players become confused when playing because their intuition is these hitobjects are spaced 1/1 gap, (as the previous ones are) causing 100s or misses here. So it will be better to decrease the spacing here, making them overlapped to one another is recommended, so players will not be confused with this.
  5. 00:21:734 - This part is totally have no sound, (or if it is, the sound here clearly has much less intense than the following sound) this spot shouldn't have an active hitobject starts here. Consider start the slider at 00:21:934 - instead.
  6. 00:34:934 (4,5) - I don't really understand the point you make these hitobjects stacked each other, since these piano sounds here are very dominant and the pitch is really high. Consider spacing them to represent the intense of the piano sounds.
  7. 00:50:174 - The sound here is pretty dominant. It shouldn't be only a slider end. :(
  8. 01:24:252 (5,1) - The spacing here could trigger the players. Players' intuition will think that they are spaced 1/2 beat gap, causing a miss here. So it will be better to move the circle 01:24:834 (1) - away to avoid having an unfair reading problem for players.
  9. 01:47:844- This part here is very intense. It shouldn't have used soft sampleset hitsounds tho. Using normal sampleset would be more appropriate with the intensity of this part.
This difficulty has some problems about how to place the hitobjects according to the song's rhythm (it's like the dominant sounds always be passive notes like slider ends or slider reverses) and the new combo placement. I think it could be improved. :|

will continue modding!
Topic Starter
zhu

- Frontier - wrote:

pm req

[General]
  1. Wave hitsounds with possible delay > 5ms:
    1. drum-hitclap.wav
    2. normal-hitclap.wav
    3. normal-hitclap2.wav
    I've tried checking all of these and it looks like they really have a delay. So try to cut them. deleted
  2. it's a cut version so you might add "cut version" in tags. >:( added
Cordie

- Frontier - wrote:

pm req

[Cordi's Normal]
  1. As a current Ranking Criteria states, the lowest difficult difficulty must not be above 2 stars!! I thought that only applied to mania. Anyways sacrificed the circles at 01:08:232 (3,4) - into a slider. Also replaced the slider 01:03:572 (3) - with a circle to leave some breathing room, since this section continues too long. Now it sits at 2.00.
  2. 00:39:334 (4) - The lump thingy is very unrecommended because the slider path doesn't look clear enough for newbie players to understand, that could cause newbies players a confuse. Reminder this is the lowest difficulty and it should be beginner-friendly difficulty. This problem could cause newbie players a confuse. It'd be better to change the slider to plain circle slider for newbie players to understand. right, made it more straight
  3. 00:40:854 to 00:45:514 - It is unjustified to leave the empty space here without a blank. Players could failed at this part if the players' health point is really low. Because leaving this part a blank, the health point could decrease. If the situation happened, players' health bar will slowly decrease and finally died. And there is no reason to leave this as a blank anyway so please add a break here. added a break
  4. 01:05:902 (4) - In my perspective it will be better to flip this slider vertically and horizontally. (as known as ctrl+j and ctrl+h) Using the same slider shape as the previous slider looks sloppy and monotonous. But flipping this slider vertically and horizontally could make the slider have the variation and the flow here will look much smoother. right
  5. 01:10:562 (4,2) - So try not to make the slider tail 01:10:562 (4) - overlaps with the slider tail 01:11:436 (2) -. It looks anticlimactic. okay
  6. 02:09:979 (1) - Making an unjustified jump in lower difficulties is strongly unacceptable here. Since it is a lowest difficulty in the mapset, the difficulty should be beginner-friendly difficulty for newbie players to play with, but this unjustified jump could be a strong unfair playing challenge for newbie players!!(just kidding lol. I know you are just forgot to reverse the slider back.) Or maybe, I did it intentionally to bait modders..
  7. 02:13:474 (1) - Players could rarely see the slider head because the slider tail 02:12:309 (1) - is perfectly overlapping the slider head, causing an unfair reading challenge for newbie players. I'd recommend to reverse this slider so it will be easier for players to see. done
Thanks for the feedback!

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Artist:Nano
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Creator:zhu
Version:Cordi's Normal
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Tags:naoki itou n neko アークix nifty cordi victorfernando -tochi starset hb24 short version
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lit120
saw the highest diff only + new mapper who mapped that

not bad for a new mapper like u xd

guess i can toss some stars since this is about to qualified xd
Topic Starter
zhu

lit120 wrote:

saw the highest diff only + new mapper who mapped that

not bad for a new mapper like u xd

guess i can toss some stars since this is about to qualified xd
すき です !! ( •̀ω•́ )
victorfernando

- Frontier - wrote:

Victor's Hard
  1. Widescreen support is being ticked.
  2. 00:06:534 (3,4,5,1) - Making the flow back and forth could be sloppy and repetitive. I'd be better to move the hitcircle 00:08:134 (5) - away so it will not be boring.
  3. 00:10:534 - Since the piano plays here, this spot shouldn't be a passive notes in my perspective. You might make a pattern here like this to emphasize the piano sound.
  4. 00:10:534 (4,5,6) - This hitobjects here (as well as the following ones which in this part) has barely the difference spacing between the previous hitobjects (which have 1/1 beat gap). This could make players become confused when playing because their intuition is these hitobjects are spaced 1/1 gap, (as the previous ones are) causing 100s or misses here. So it will be better to decrease the spacing here, making them overlapped to one another is recommended, so players will not be confused with this.
  5. 00:21:734 - This part is totally have no sound, (or if it is, the sound here clearly has much less intense than the following sound) this spot shouldn't have an active hitobject starts here. Consider start the slider at 00:21:934 - instead.
  6. 00:34:934 (4,5) - I don't really understand the point you make these hitobjects stacked each other, since these piano sounds here are very dominant and the pitch is really high. Consider spacing them to represent the intense of the piano sounds.
  7. 00:50:174 - The sound here is pretty dominant. It shouldn't be only a slider end. :(
  8. 01:24:252 (5,1) - The spacing here could trigger the players. Players' intuition will think that they are spaced 1/2 beat gap, causing a miss here. So it will be better to move the circle 01:24:834 (1) - away to avoid having an unfair reading problem for players.
  9. 01:47:844- This part here is very intense. It shouldn't have used soft sampleset hitsounds tho. Using normal sampleset would be more appropriate with the intensity of this part.
This difficulty has some problems about how to place the hitobjects according to the song's rhythm (it's like the dominant sounds always be passive notes like slider ends or slider reverses) and the new combo placement. I think it could be improved. :|

will continue modding!

fixed all
diff
osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: nevereverland.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 111047
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: None
StackLeniency: 0.4
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 1

[Editor]
Bookmarks: 130416,160271,185609,258571
DistanceSpacing: 1.4
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 8
TimelineZoom: 1.6

[Metadata]
Title:Nevereverland
TitleUnicode:Nevereverland
Artist:Nano
ArtistUnicode:ナノ
Creator:zhu
Version:Victor's Hard
Source:
Tags:naoki itou n neko アークix nifty cordi victorfernando -tochi starset hb24 short version
BeatmapID:1387197
BeatmapSetID:621438

[Difficulty]
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CircleSize:4
OverallDifficulty:5.6
ApproachRate:7.5
SliderMultiplier:1.1
SliderTickRate:1

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//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
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160,160,74057,2,0,B|159:129|167:105,2,55,0|0|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
85,231,74494,2,0,B|141:247|141:247|205:239,1,110,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
286,256,74931,2,0,P|265:305|281:357,1,110,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
401,317,75368,6,0,L|337:309,2,55,0|8|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
472,272,75805,2,0,B|487:224|487:224|472:160,1,110,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
410,113,76242,2,0,B|338:121,1,55
289,63,76533,2,0,L|249:103,1,55,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
257,182,76824,6,0,P|203:173|168:130,1,110,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
112,64,77261,1,8,0:0:0:0:
56,130,77407,2,0,L|48:258,1,110
120,335,77844,2,0,L|116:270,1,55,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
173,220,78135,2,0,P|213:244|293:220,1,110,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
344,280,78572,6,0,L|336:344,2,55
400,216,79009,1,8,0:0:0:0:
360,144,79154,2,0,L|232:120,1,110,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
168,64,79591,2,0,L|240:48,1,55,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
168,144,79883,2,0,L|112:128,1,55
48,184,80174,5,8,0:0:0:0:
48,184,80320,1,0,0:0:0:0:
104,248,80465,2,0,L|96:312,2,55,4|0|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
176,224,80902,2,0,P|224:248|280:232,1,110
232,168,81339,6,0,L|240:104,1,55
328,64,81630,2,0,L|320:128,1,55
376,192,81921,1,0,0:0:0:0:
376,192,82067,1,0,0:0:0:0:
440,240,82213,2,0,B|448:296|448:296|432:352,1,110
312,304,82795,6,0,L|192:288,1,110,14|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
128,320,83232,1,0,0:0:0:0:
64,272,83378,2,0,B|88:208|48:208|72:144,1,110,10|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
120,104,83815,2,0,P|168:88|232:120,1,110,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
264,184,84252,2,0,P|296:152|304:128,2,55,10|0|2,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
184,272,84834,5,12,0:0:0:0:
184,272,84980,2,0,L|176:336,1,55,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
96,320,85271,1,0,0:0:0:0:
96,320,85417,2,0,L|88:200,1,110,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
32,152,85853,2,0,L|40:24,1,110,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
112,16,86290,2,0,L|192:24,1,55,10|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
216,88,86582,2,0,L|288:80,1,55,8|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
352,88,86873,1,8,0:0:0:0:
352,88,87019,1,0,0:0:0:0:
368,168,87164,6,0,P|376:208|376:248,1,55,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
320,280,87455,1,2,0:0:0:0:
320,280,87601,1,0,0:0:0:0:
248,328,87747,2,0,B|192:344|192:344|128:320,1,110,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
96,264,88184,2,0,B|120:208|80:208|104:144,1,110,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
160,96,88620,2,0,L|224:104,1,55,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
280,168,88912,1,4,0:0:0:0:
280,168,89057,6,0,L|264:240,2,55,0|10|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
328,96,89494,1,0,0:0:0:0:
400,48,89640,1,0,0:0:0:0:
400,48,89786,2,0,B|416:96|416:96|392:176,1,110,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
360,224,90222,2,0,B|336:280|376:280|352:336,1,110,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
280,376,90659,2,0,P|232:368|216:360,1,55,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
168,304,90951,1,8,0:0:0:0:
168,304,91096,1,0,0:0:0:0:
128,224,91242,6,0,P|128:184|136:152,1,55,8|12,0:0|0:2,0:0:0:0:
264,152,107844,6,0,P|261:115|272:80,2,55,2|0|2,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
296,224,108280,1,0,0:0:0:0:
384,296,108717,6,0,P|412:289|448:296,2,55,2|0|2,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
320,344,109154,1,0,0:0:0:0:
184,272,109591,6,0,P|188:305|176:344,2,55,2|0|2,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
144,200,110028,1,0,0:0:0:0:
304,120,110319,5,2,0:0:0:0:
304,120,110465,2,0,P|304:176|296:192,1,55,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
144,200,111047,6,0,P|136:160|144:128,1,55
190,26,111339,2,0,P|191:53|184:80,1,55,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
137,146,111630,6,0,L|57:146,2,60.5000018463135,8|2|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
216,168,112067,1,0,0:0:0:0:
288,224,112212,2,0,L|288:312,1,60.5000018463135,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
368,320,112504,2,0,L|368:232,1,60.5000018463135,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
384,152,112795,5,8,0:0:0:0:
320,80,112940,2,0,P|272:96|192:64,1,121.000003692627,2|0,0:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
136,40,113377,1,8,0:0:0:0:
136,40,113523,1,2,0:0:0:0:
72,104,113669,2,0,L|8:88,2,60.5000018463135,4|2|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
136,152,114105,6,0,B|112:208|160:208|120:288,1,121.000003692627,0|2,0:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
68,321,114542,2,0,P|108:345|132:345,1,60.5000018463135,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
200,320,114834,1,0,0:0:0:0:
263,271,114979,2,0,L|260:197,1,60.5000018463135,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
335,124,115271,2,0,L|342:247,1,121.000003692627,2|0,0:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
382,316,115707,6,0,P|417:322|447:313,1,60.5000018463135,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
477,242,115999,1,0,0:0:0:0:
437,171,116144,2,0,L|432:107,1,60.5000018463135,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
374,48,116436,1,2,0:0:0:0:
374,48,116581,6,0,B|326:64|326:64|246:32,1,121.000003692627,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
181,21,117018,2,0,L|117:45,1,60.5000018463135,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
64,103,117309,1,2,0:0:0:0:
64,103,117455,2,0,B|85:155|85:155|56:239,1,121.000003692627,12|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
68,298,117892,5,2,0:0:0:0:
68,298,118038,2,0,L|149:299,1,60.5000018463135,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
206,255,118329,2,0,L|278:253,2,60.5000018463135,4|2|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
161,185,118766,2,0,P|145:105|177:57,1,121.000003692627,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
239,40,119203,1,8,0:0:0:0:
309,93,119348,2,0,L|389:85,1,60.5000018463135,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
432,144,119639,1,2,0:0:0:0:
432,144,119785,6,0,B|448:200|448:200|424:272,1,121.000003692627,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
352,304,120222,1,0,0:0:0:0:
280,256,120368,2,0,L|224:248,3,30.2500009231568,0|0|2|0,0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
208,248,120659,2,0,L|128:240,1,60.5000018463135,4|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
80,296,120950,1,8,0:0:0:0:
40,224,121096,2,0,L|48:88,1,121.000003692627,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
136,48,121533,6,0,L|128:128,1,60.5000018463135,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
216,192,121824,2,0,L|208:120,1,60.5000018463135
272,72,122115,1,0,0:0:0:0:
272,72,122261,2,0,B|336:88|336:88|408:64,1,121.000003692627,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
459,116,122698,1,8,0:0:0:0:
460,202,122843,2,0,P|384:153|394:61,1,181.500005538941,2|0,0:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
328,8,123426,5,2,0:0:0:0:
272,72,123572,2,0,L|144:56,1,121.000003692627,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
96,120,124008,2,0,B|104:176|104:176|80:240,1,121.000003692627,4|2,0:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
48,312,124445,1,8,0:0:0:0:
48,312,124591,2,0,P|75:323|128:312,1,60.5000018463135
176,272,124882,2,0,P|240:256|304:288,1,121.000003692627,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
368,240,125319,6,0,P|363:204|376:160,1,60.5000018463135,6|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
436,72,125610,2,0,P|444:112|436:144,1,60.5000018463135,10|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
360,104,125902,2,0,B|326:100|326:100|288:112,1,60.5000018463135,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
224,144,126193,2,0,L|216:224,1,60.5000018463135,10|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
304,272,126484,2,0,L|312:192,1,60.5000018463135,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
248,329,126775,2,0,P|312:353|368:321,1,121.000003692627,12|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
424,284,127212,5,2,0:0:0:0:
424,284,127358,2,0,L|496:284,1,60.5000018463135,12|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
480,208,127649,2,0,B|464:152|464:152|488:80,1,121.000003692627,6|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
416,40,128086,2,0,L|336:32,1,60.5000018463135,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
304,104,128377,2,0,L|248:80,1,60.5000018463135,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
176,104,128669,2,0,B|152:152|152:152|176:224,1,121.000003692627
240,272,129105,1,8,0:0:0:0:
240,272,129251,2,0,L|232:352,1,60.5000018463135
383,282,129688,6,0,L|388:196,1,60.5000018463135,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
393,143,129979,1,4,0:0:0:0:
287,69,130271,2,0,B|231:77|231:77|167:45,1,121.000003692627,10|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
94,94,130707,1,0,0:0:0:0:
94,94,130853,6,0,P|121:156|94:230,1,121.000003692627,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
75,286,131290,1,0,0:0:0:0:
75,286,131436,2,0,P|123:294|147:286,1,60.5000018463135,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
202,242,131727,2,0,P|233:236|273:244,1,60.5000018463135,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
302,317,132018,2,0,P|330:322|384:316,1,60.5000018463135,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
430,367,132309,2,0,P|446:311|405:244,1,121.000003692627,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
365,191,132746,6,0,B|357:151|357:151|373:63,1,121.000003692627,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
295,37,133183,2,0,L|282:102,1,60.5000018463135,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
224,150,133474,2,0,P|158:206|178:290,2,181.500005538941,14|2|2,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
237,232,134639,1,6,0:2:0:0:
- Frontier -
2

General #2
  1. I've just noticed that the combo color 1 and combo color 3 has barely difference in terms of the color. Try to make the color combo 3 become more different so players could identify more between those.
[Light Insane]
  1. Widescreen support is being ticked.
  2. 00:29:634 - Since you've mapped follow piano sound, I think this should be mapped also.
  3. 00:38:934 - I think this spot shouldn't add finish sound here, since there is no any cymbal sound here.
  4. 00:49:009 (5) - Using only one hold reverse slider might feel tedious for players to play. You might add more reverse slider like this, so it will not become too boring to play. As same as 02:00:076 (5) -.
  5. 01:05:174 - Both of the instrumental sound and vocal sound here is pretty dominant. I'd recommend to add a hitobject at this spot to represent the sound better rather than just leaving it as a blank. As same as 01:09:834 -.
  6. 01:43:183 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - These are spaced pretty near to one another. It looks very anticlimactic and the aesthetics here is very unpleasant looking. I'd recommend to spaced these further like how you did previously.
  7. 01:47:843 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - Using plain claps here doesn't fit with the song's rhythm and intensity at all. Try to copy how Starset managed with the hitsound in this part.
  8. 01:52:941 (2,3,4,5) - In my first glance, my intuition is these are formed as a perfectly hexagonal pattern, but when I looked over and over again, I noticed that these aren't formed perfectly. So you'd better try to make these formed perfectly hexagonal shape by using Rotate Settings.
  9. 02:14:639 - This spot is very intense, it shouldn't be just a slider end of 02:14:348 (3) -. To emphasize the dominant sound here, it'd be better to change this slider 02:14:348 (3) - to 1/2 beat slider and place a hitcircle at 02:14:639 - instead. So that it could represent the sound here better.
[Insane]
  1. Widescreen support is being ticked.
  2. 00:23:934 (2,4) - After I looked at these slider repetitively, I noticed that the slider tail 00:23:934 (2) - isn't actually perfectly blanketed by the slider body 00:24:734 (4) -. In order to make the blanket here become perfect, move the slider 00:24:734 (4) - to x:409 y:75, creating nice aesthetically pleasant looking.
  3. 00:37:534 (1) - The slider flow here is pretty bad. ;(
  4. 01:27:165 (1,2,3) - This part has exactly the same rhythm as 01:22:796 (1,2,3) -, but why they are mapped differently? Consider making them the same.
  5. 01:43:037 - This spot here has an audible sound. You shouldn't miss it. Consider mapping this part. As same as 01:43:110 -, 01:45:440 -.
  6. 01:47:844 (1,2,3,1,2,1,2,3) - It'd be better to change these hitobjects to plain circles with big jumps, to emphasize the intensity of this part here.
  7. 02:05:901 (5,2) - Because the slider 02:05:901 (5) - hasn't fully disappeared while the circle 02:06:338 (2) - is appearing, it appears that the slider body 02:05:901 (5) - overlaps with the circle 02:06:339 (2) -, creating an pleasant aesthetically looking here. It'd be better to move the circle 02:06:339 (2) - away from the slider 02:05:902 (5) - until they don't overlap each other, and it will creating a nice pleasant looking aesthetics here.
  8. 02:14:347 (3) - As I mentioned in the previous difficulty, this spot is very intense, it shouldn't be just a slider end of 02:14:348 (3) -. To emphasize the dominant sound here, it'd be better to change this slider 02:14:348 (3) - to 1/2 beat slider and place a hitcircle at 02:14:639 - instead. So that it could represent the sound here better.
[Starset's Extra]
  1. Widescreen support is being ticked.
  2. 00:07:334 (1,2) - Because of an editor error, the slider tail 00:08:534 (2) - isn't perfectly stacked with the slider head 00:07:334 (1) -. Consider moving the slider 00:08:534 (2) - one pixel downwards and rightwards. (or x:352 y:342) So these sliders will be perfectly stacked, creating a nice pleasant looking aesthetics here.
[-Tochi's Extra]
  1. 00:38:934 (4) - Because the previous sliders are 1/2 beat, it might be better to add a new combo here, to indicate players for the transition.
  2. 01:22:795 (1) - The slider tail's sound here is pretty irritating to listen. I'd recommend to add a 5% volume inherited point (green line) here to silence the slider tail sound. As same as the rest in this part if you agree with this suggestion I suggest.
  3. 02:14:639 (1) - This spot is very intense, it'd be better to add a finish hitsound here.
I'm not gonna mod top difficulty tho.
In conclusion, I think this map needs some more room for improvements. (especially the owner's difficulties) The GD's extras were pretty good in my perspective tho.
Good luck~
Topic Starter
zhu

- Frontier - wrote:

2

General #2
  1. I've just noticed that the combo color 1 and combo color 3 has barely difference in terms of the color. Try to make the color combo 3 become more different so players could identify more between those.
fixed

[Light Insane]
  1. Widescreen support is being ticked.
  2. 00:29:634 - Since you've mapped follow piano sound, I think this should be mapped also. fixed
  3. 00:38:934 - I think this spot shouldn't add finish sound here, since there is no any cymbal sound here. fixed
  4. 00:49:009 (5) - Using only one hold reverse slider might feel tedious for players to play. You might add more reverse slider like this, so it will not become too boring to play. As same as 02:00:076 (5) -. 00:49:009 (5) -
  5. 01:05:174 - Both of the instrumental sound and vocal sound here is pretty dominant. I'd recommend to add a hitobject at this spot to represent the sound better rather than just leaving it as a blank. As same as 01:09:834 -. im trying emphasize synth here so rather stick with current rhythms
  6. 01:43:183 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - These are spaced pretty near to one another. It looks very anticlimactic and the aesthetics here is very unpleasant looking. I'd recommend to spaced these further like how you did previously. fixed
  7. 01:47:843 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - Using plain claps here doesn't fit with the song's rhythm and intensity at all. Try to copy how Starset managed with the hitsound in this part. fixed
  8. 01:52:941 (2,3,4,5) - In my first glance, my intuition is these are formed as a perfectly hexagonal pattern, but when I looked over and over again, I noticed that these aren't formed perfectly. So you'd better try to make these formed perfectly hexagonal shape by using Rotate Settings. fixed
  9. 02:14:639 - This spot is very intense, it shouldn't be just a slider end of 02:14:348 (3) -. To emphasize the dominant sound here, it'd be better to change this slider 02:14:348 (3) - to 1/2 beat slider and place a hitcircle at 02:14:639 - instead. So that it could represent the sound here better.fixed
[Insane]
  1. Widescreen support is being ticked.
  2. 00:23:934 (2,4) - After I looked at these slider repetitively, I noticed that the slider tail 00:23:934 (2) - isn't actually perfectly blanketed by the slider body 00:24:734 (4) -. In order to make the blanket here become perfect, move the slider 00:24:734 (4) - to x:409 y:75, creating nice aesthetically pleasant looking. fixed
  3. 00:37:534 (1) - The slider flow here is pretty bad. ;( flow here is not that bad
  4. 01:27:165 (1,2,3) - This part has exactly the same rhythm as 01:22:796 (1,2,3) -, but why they are mapped differently? Consider making them the same. fixed
  5. 01:43:037 - This spot here has an audible sound. You shouldn't miss it. Consider mapping this part. As same as 01:43:110 -, 01:45:440 -. fixed
  6. 01:47:844 (1,2,3,1,2,1,2,3) - It'd be better to change these hitobjects to plain circles with big jumps, to emphasize the intensity of this part here. fixed
  7. 02:05:901 (5,2) - Because the slider 02:05:901 (5) - hasn't fully disappeared while the circle 02:06:338 (2) - is appearing, it appears that the slider body 02:05:901 (5) - overlaps with the circle 02:06:339 (2) -, creating an pleasant aesthetically looking here. It'd be better to move the circle 02:06:339 (2) - away from the slider 02:05:902 (5) - until they don't overlap each other, and it will creating a nice pleasant looking aesthetics here. fixed
  8. 02:14:347 (3) - As I mentioned in the previous difficulty, this spot is very intense, it shouldn't be just a slider end of 02:14:348 (3) -. To emphasize the dominant sound here, it'd be better to change this slider 02:14:348 (3) - to 1/2 beat slider and place a hitcircle at 02:14:639 - instead. So that it could represent the sound here better. fixed
I'm not gonna mod top difficulty tho. why though
In conclusion, I think this map needs some more room for improvements. (especially the owner's difficulties) The GD's extras were pretty good in my perspective tho.
Good luck~
Starset

- Frontier - wrote:

2

[Starset's Extra]
  1. Widescreen support is being ticked.
  2. 00:07:334 (1,2) - Because of an editor error, the slider tail 00:08:534 (2) - isn't perfectly stacked with the slider head 00:07:334 (1) -. Consider moving the slider 00:08:534 (2) - one pixel downwards and rightwards. (or x:352 y:342) So these sliders will be perfectly stacked, creating a nice pleasant looking aesthetics here.
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SPOILER
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[General]
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PreviewTime: 111047
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[Editor]
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[Metadata]
Title:Nevereverland
TitleUnicode:Nevereverland
Artist:Nano
ArtistUnicode:ナノ
Creator:zhu
Version:Starset's Extra
Source:
Tags:naoki itou n neko アークix nifty cordi victorfernando -tochi starset hb24 short version
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[Difficulty]
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-Tochi

- Frontier - wrote:

[-Tochi's Extra]
  1. 00:38:934 (4) - Because the previous sliders are 1/2 beat, it might be better to add a new combo here, to indicate players for the transition. fixed
  2. 01:22:795 (1) - The slider tail's sound here is pretty irritating to listen. I'd recommend to add a 5% volume inherited point (green line) here to silence the slider tail sound. As same as the rest in this part if you agree with this suggestion I suggest. fixed!
  3. 02:14:639 (1) - This spot is very intense, it'd be better to add a finish hitsound here. fixed!
thanks for the mod!
here's the update
.osu
osu file format v14

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Title:Nevereverland
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Artist:Nano
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Creator:zhu
Version:-Tochi's Redemption
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Tags:naoki itou n neko アークix nifty cordi victorfernando -tochi starset hb24 short version
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Garden
mod as promised long ago

General
  1. delete nevereverlandCordi's Easy100BPM.mp3, also fix artist and tag in Cordi's diff
  2. only top diff is allowed to use custom diff name, even if it's 0.00000001 sr difference
  3. 01:47:843 - need a redline with 3/4 time signature
  4. apparently Nifty mapped 3 difficulties and contributed most drain time in the mapset, this can be an unrankable issue (mapset creator should contribute most)
  5. not sure what happened to hitsounding but there are no hitsounds for sampleset 1, 2, 4
Cordi's Normal
  1. 00:39:334 (4) - you should snap the tail to the red line, so maybe use a spinner instead? also don't forget hitsounding on the tail if you insist on slider
  2. 01:06:485 (5,1) - 01:11:145 (1,2) - should be same comboing pattern i suppose
  3. 01:21:193 (2,3) - why is stack usage here inconsistent from the rest?
  4. 01:28:912 (4,1) - ^ also unstacking for emphasize makes more sense to me
  5. 02:02:698 (4,1) - 01:59:203 (2,3) - ^
Victor's Hard
  1. 00:13:734 - 20% volume? now it seems lacking feedback
  2. 01:04:154 - 01:13:475 - 01:20:465 - etc. normal/soft addition finish would sound great here
  3. 01:29:203 - only this one downbeat is mapped with reversed slider, I suggest u also make it clickable
  4. 01:47:844 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - 100% is too loud :o
  5. 01:52:504 (4,1,2) - unintentional spacing inconsistency? you seem to follow a consistent value most of the time
  6. 01:59:639 (7,1) - weird that you followed 01:59:785 - but ignored 02:02:989 - , please either emphasize vocal or the downbeat
  7. 02:00:659 (4) - nc? actually i can't figure out how you did nc, some explanation would be good :c
Light Insane
  1. why is od even lower than hard
  2. 00:23:134 (7,1) - use 1.8x like 00:22:534 (4,5,6,7) - for visual consistency
  3. 00:52:504 - 00:54:834 - 02:00:659 - finish maybe
  4. 01:04:154 (1,2,3) - same or similar rhythm as 01:05:320 (4,5,6,7) - follows vocal better
  5. 01:06:485 (1) - use https://puu.sh/zmDRo/f4565494ac.png rhythm for vocal?
  6. 01:09:687 (3) - maybe use 1/2 slider, for same reason above
  7. 01:56:872 (1,2,3,4,5) - 01:56:000 (1,2,3,4,5) - the visual inconsistency is triggering me so hard
  8. 02:01:824 (1,2) - ctrl-g flows better, also for 02:01:824 (1,2,3,4) - etc. I really suggest you do some neat polygon mapping like 01:51:776 (2,3,4,5,1) - , the visual spacings are just random
  9. 02:10:415 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - ds mapping light insane is fine but you should pay attention to spaciiing, they are sometimes way too off :c
Insane
  1. 00:39:434 (1) - why doesn't it end at 00:40:854 - ?
  2. 00:40:854 - to 01:31:533 - and kiai: no hitsounding
  3. 01:10:562 (3,4) - spacing is noticeably off, I suppose it should be 1.2x like 01:10:271 (1,2,3) -
    ok there are similar problems to light insane so i'm not gonna point them out in detail, rhythms are good in general but visual spacings and flows between patterns can definitely be improved
Starset's Ex
  1. 00:26:134 (7,8,1) - even spacing looks better i guess
  2. 02:05:028 - 02:05:319 - missing hitsounds
-Tochi's Ex
  1. 00:00:884 (1,2) - 00:07:284 (1,2) - if you decide to map them as 1/8 then 00:04:134 (1,2,3) - snapping should be modified as well cuz 1/4 sounds noticeably off
  2. 01:00:951 (3) - nc maybe, 1212 looks better in terms of visual
  3. 01:41:872 (5) - wrong snap?
good luck!
Starset

Garden wrote:

Starset's Ex
  1. 00:26:134 (7,8,1) - even spacing looks better i guess
  2. 02:05:028 - 02:05:319 - missing hitsounds
good luck!
fixed

SPOILER
osu file format v14

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PreviewTime: 111047
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Title:Nevereverland
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Artist:Nano
ArtistUnicode:ナノ
Creator:zhu
Version:Starset's Redemption
Source:
Tags:naoki itou n neko アークix nifty cordi victorfernando -tochi starset hb24 short version
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victorfernando

Garden wrote:

Victor's Hard
  1. 00:13:734 - 20% volume? now it seems lacking feedback (Okay changed to 20%)
  2. 01:04:154 - 01:13:475 - 01:20:465 - etc. normal/soft addition finish would sound great here (added)
  3. 01:29:203 - only this one downbeat is mapped with reversed slider, I suggest u also make it clickable (changed for slider)
  4. 01:47:844 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - 100% is too loud :o Now it's 50%
  5. 01:52:504 (4,1,2) - unintentional spacing inconsistency? you seem to follow a consistent value most of the time (Fixed)
  6. 01:59:639 (7,1) - weird that you followed 01:59:785 - but ignored 02:02:989 - , please either emphasize vocal or the downbeat (Okay)
  7. 02:00:659 (4) - nc? actually i can't figure out how you did nc, some explanation would be good :c (changed my nc thing, i put nc every high tick white)
Thanks for mod!
DIFFU
osu file format v14

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Title:Nevereverland
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Artist:Nano
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Creator:zhu
Version:Victor's Hard
Source:
Tags:naoki itou n neko アークix nifty cordi victorfernando -tochi starset hb24 short version
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-Tochi

Garden wrote:

-Tochi's Ex
  1. 00:00:884 (1,2) - 00:07:284 (1,2) - if you decide to map them as 1/8 then 00:04:134 (1,2,3) - snapping should be modified as well cuz 1/4 sounds noticeably off fixed!
  2. 01:00:951 (3) - nc maybe, 1212 looks better in terms of visual fixed!
  3. 01:41:872 (5) - wrong snap? the end yes, but i like prefer to put a slider here cus it gives an unique addition/emphasis to the piano, tho i muted the sliderend
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Cordie

Garden wrote:

Cordi's Normal
  1. 00:39:334 (4) - you should snap the tail to the red line, so maybe use a spinner instead? also don't forget hitsounding on the tail if you insist on slider spinner it is
  2. 01:06:485 (5,1) - 01:11:145 (1,2) - should be same comboing pattern i suppose ofc
  3. 01:21:193 (2,3) - why is stack usage here inconsistent from the rest? It's the end of the verse, small variance here won't hurt, I think.
  4. 01:28:912 (4,1) - ^ also unstacking for emphasize makes more sense to me yep
  5. 02:02:698 (4,1) - 01:59:203 (2,3) - ^ unstacked the latter
Thanks!

<--->
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Creator:zhu
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Source:
Tags:naoki itou n neko アークix nifty cordi victorfernando -tochi starset hb24 short version
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Topic Starter
zhu

Garden wrote:

mod as promised long ago

General
  1. delete nevereverlandCordi's Easy100BPM.mp3, also fix artist and tag in Cordi's diff fixed
  2. only top diff is allowed to use custom diff name, even if it's 0.00000001 sr difference not sure about this one
  3. 01:47:843 - need a redline with 3/4 time signature thats not really necessary also adding that causes problem on taiko dif
  4. apparently Nifty mapped 3 difficulties and contributed most drain time in the mapset, this can be an unrankable issue (mapset creator should contribute most) fixed
  5. not sure what happened to hitsounding but there are no hitsounds for sampleset 1, 2, 4
fixed

Light Insane
  1. why is od even lower than hard fixed
  2. 00:23:134 (7,1) - use 1.8x like 00:22:534 (4,5,6,7) - for visual consistency fixed
  3. 00:52:504 - 00:54:834 - 02:00:659 - finish maybe fixed
  4. 01:04:154 (1,2,3) - same or similar rhythm as 01:05:320 (4,5,6,7) - follows vocal better emphasizing synth here so no
  5. 01:06:485 (1) - use https://puu.sh/zmDRo/f4565494ac.png rhythm for vocal? emphasizing synth here so no
  6. 01:09:687 (3) - maybe use 1/2 slider, for same reason above emphasizing synth here so no
  7. 01:56:872 (1,2,3,4,5) - 01:56:000 (1,2,3,4,5) - the visual inconsistency is triggering me so hard fixed
  8. 02:01:824 (1,2) - ctrl-g flows better, also for 02:01:824 (1,2,3,4) - etc. I really suggest you do some neat polygon mapping like 01:51:776 (2,3,4,5,1) - , the visual spacings are just random fixed
  9. 02:10:415 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - ds mapping light insane is fine but you should pay attention to spaciiing, they are sometimes way too off :c will keep that in mind


Insane
  1. 00:39:434 (1) - why doesn't it end at 00:40:854 - ? fixed
  2. 00:40:854 - to 01:31:533 - and kiai: no hitsounding fixed
  3. 01:10:562 (3,4) - spacing is noticeably off, I suppose it should be 1.2x like 01:10:271 (1,2,3) -
    ok there are similar problems to light insane so i'm not gonna point them out in detail, rhythms are good in general but visual spacings and flows between patterns can definitely be improved fixed
Rakuen
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23:42 Rakuen: hi
23:42 *zhu is away: probably dead
23:43 Rakuen: lel
23:43 zhu: give me a min im testplaying map lol
23:46 zhu: aight
23:46 zhu: im ready
23:46 Rakuen: oke~
23:47 Rakuen: mods from me are general n opinion based
23:47 Rakuen: take it easy XD
23:47 Rakuen: emm first of all
23:47 zhu: okay
23:47 *Rakuen is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1551319 Nano - Nevereverland [Advanced]]
23:47 *zhu is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1551319 Nano - Nevereverland [Advanced]]
23:47 Rakuen: u could try n use some 1/2
23:47 Rakuen: like triple circles before a slider or something
23:48 Rakuen: because it's too similar to normal
23:48 zhu: like where
23:48 zhu: lol
23:48 Rakuen: which kinda makes the diff a little bit redundant uwu"
23:49 Rakuen: for ex u can make 00:50:174 - to a circle, then put 2 more cirlces at 00:50:174 - and 00:50:611 -
23:49 Rakuen: just an example, i think u get my idea ;3
23:50 zhu: no i dont
23:50 zhu: lol
23:50 zhu: sorry
23:50 Rakuen: then another way of using 1/2 is u can make 01:51:338 (1) - ends in 01:51:630 - and make another slider starts at 01:51:775 - ends in 01:52:067 -
23:50 Rakuen: yea its just difficulty spread
23:50 Rakuen: if u want more beautiful spread u could always try XD but should be ok
23:51 Rakuen: and...
23:51 Rakuen: i remember u need one diff below 2.0 star
23:51 Rakuen: that means normal has to be 1.9
23:51 Rakuen: if im not wrong
23:51 zhu: there were new rules
23:51 Rakuen: oo ok
23:52 Rakuen: my criteria is based on years ago
23:52 zhu: below 2.0 is removed
23:52 zhu: yeah
23:52 Rakuen: because i have no problem adapting to it so i dont recognise new ones
23:52 zhu: yeah so dont mind this
23:52 zhu: alright moving on
23:53 Rakuen: yep so about the spread in advanced diff
23:53 Rakuen: u can add more shorter sliders
23:53 Rakuen: sort of make it look like harder than normal, but easier than hard
23:53 Rakuen: and em... make sure u check the hitsound consistency before u hit BNs
23:54 Rakuen: like for ex hit>clap>hit>clap etc.
23:54 Rakuen: like in kiai part
23:54 Rakuen: should be too much difference
23:54 Rakuen: unless its the music that is changing
23:55 zhu: you noticed hitsound problems?
23:55 zhu: i gone through hitsounds like 3 times
23:55 zhu: lol
23:55 zhu: please tell if there is any
23:55 Rakuen: like for advanced, shouldnt it has clap at 01:56:290 - or 01:56:872 - ?
23:55 Rakuen: im not sure how u want it to sound it
23:55 Rakuen: 01:59:203 (2) - clap too? xD
23:56 Rakuen: like 02:02:698 (4) - too
23:56 Rakuen: hmm or u prefer no clap?
23:56 Rakuen: 02:06:193 (3) -
23:57 Rakuen: basically advanced/normal should be not problem if everything is snapped
23:58 zhu: ill consider this
23:58 zhu: yeah
23:58 zhu: about light insane i mapped with ds on till kiai
23:59 *Rakuen is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1518022 Nano - Nevereverland [Light Insane]]
23:59 *zhu is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1518022 Nano - Nevereverland [Light Insane]]
00:00 Rakuen: so for the beginning part
00:00 Rakuen: are u on vocal / piano / both?
00:00 zhu: you mean piano part?
00:00 Rakuen: yea
00:00 zhu: both
00:00 Rakuen: before the first spinner
00:01 Rakuen: if u could make 00:15:134 - clickable
00:01 Rakuen: it sounds like heavy vocal part
00:01 Rakuen: making it click would play better imo xD
00:01 zhu: i emphasize piano sound there
00:02 Rakuen: i think u missed one here 00:16:534 -
00:02 zhu: same here
00:02 zhu: 00:21:334 (2) -
00:02 Rakuen: theres piano n vocal on 00:16:534 -
00:02 Rakuen: so this part 00:18:734 (3,4,5,6,1) - u emphasize vocal?
00:03 Rakuen: like 00:19:334 (5,6) -
00:03 Rakuen: because theres piano on 00:19:534 - 00:19:934 -
00:03 zhu: actually its piano
00:05 zhu: and both
00:05 zhu: i dont know
00:05 zhu: how should i explain
00:05 zhu: its mainly focused on piano
00:05 Rakuen: not a problem
00:05 Rakuen: im just making sure u know what u mapping xD
00:05 Rakuen: should be fine
00:05 Rakuen: sometimes its not mod
00:05 Rakuen: i dont wanna force u to change
00:06 zhu: i tried mapping vocal on insane
00:06 zhu: piano part
00:06 Rakuen: 00:44:713 - is there any meaning for this early start?
00:06 zhu: what?
00:07 Rakuen: mm timing
00:07 Rakuen: end of break
00:07 Rakuen: u can see a green bar on top
00:07 zhu: that part is mapped on other extras
00:07 zhu: so yeah
00:08 Rakuen: hmm..
00:08 zhu: what do you mean
00:08 zhu: lol
00:09 zhu: am i missing something?
00:09 Rakuen: https://puu.sh/zsDhb/66f3af11cc.png
00:09 Rakuen: normally a break looks like https://puu.sh/zsDir/9f340e662d.png
00:10 Rakuen: but u decided to let the break ends earlier
00:10 Rakuen: just asking, not a unrankable issue or anything
00:10 zhu: what is that
00:10 zhu: i didnt do anything to intentionally end it earlier
00:10 zhu: how to fix it
00:10 Rakuen: drag the left side of green bar to the right
00:10 Rakuen: so it becomes gray
00:10 zhu: oh that was simple
00:11 Rakuen: because its for special usage
00:11 Rakuen: for example if u want to end the break earlier
00:11 Rakuen: like at 00:44:349 -
00:11 Rakuen: so people have more time to ready
00:11 zhu: no im not
00:11 Rakuen: or if u drag the grey bar to the first spinner
00:11 zhu: it was somekind of mistake
00:11 zhu: probably
00:11 Rakuen: then the break will be removed
00:11 Rakuen: HP will be drained if theres not break
00:11 Rakuen: no break*
00:11 zhu: yeah thanks fixed
00:12 Rakuen: i think u could make 00:47:844 (1) - jump tho xD
00:12 Rakuen: since there are jumps previously
00:13 Rakuen: for 00:49:009 (5,6,7,8) -
00:13 zhu: yeah fixed
00:13 zhu: for?
00:14 Rakuen: do u think if it looks better this way? https://puu.sh/zsDqv/3dee2be0a4.png
00:14 Rakuen: its like a flow from top right to bottom left
00:15 zhu: yeah
00:15 zhu: i see
00:15 zhu: fixed
00:16 zhu: wait let me res osu
00:17 zhu: im back
00:17 Rakuen: wb
00:17 *Rakuen is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1518022 Nano - Nevereverland [Light Insane]]
00:17 Rakuen: 02:11:580 (6) - i think theres distance problem here
00:17 *zhu is away: probably dead
00:18 Rakuen: maybe 01:58:184 (7) - too?
00:19 zhu: fixed
00:20 *Rakuen is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1386281 Nano - Nevereverland [Insane]]
00:20 Rakuen: 00:34:734 (4) - is there anyway that this can be clicked too? uwu
00:20 *zhu is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1386281 Nano - Nevereverland [Insane]]
00:20 zhu: its clickable
00:20 zhu: dude
00:20 zhu: what do you mean
00:21 Rakuen: i mean like make it 3 circles
00:21 Rakuen: hahaha
00:21 zhu: lol
00:21 zhu: oh no
00:21 zhu: then ill have make these
00:21 zhu: 3circles aswel
00:21 zhu: 00:21:934 (3,5) -
00:21 zhu: this aswel
00:21 zhu: 00:28:934 (7) -
00:21 Rakuen: its up to u xD
00:22 Rakuen: im fine if the rhythm is mapped
00:22 Rakuen: not so extreme
00:22 Rakuen: 00:39:434 (1) - snap the spinner end to the big red tick
00:22 Rakuen: slightly drag it to the right
00:23 zhu: yeah
00:23 zhu: fixed
00:26 Rakuen: think u could add one circle here 01:51:193 -
00:26 Rakuen: maybe put behind slider end of 01:50:610 (3) -
00:28 Rakuen: hmm 01:59:348 (4,5,6,7) - this rhythm sounds weird to me
00:28 Rakuen: maybe u can make it two sliders
00:28 Rakuen: one slider at 01:59:348 -
00:29 Rakuen: another at 01:59:639 - with a reverse
00:29 Rakuen: to match with vocal, and tapping for the coming stream
00:30 zhu: yeah
00:30 Rakuen: i think thats all for your mod c:
00:31 Rakuen: the other parts are pretty fine
00:31 zhu: yeah
00:31 zhu: thanks
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