nano - Nevereverland [Osu|Taiko]

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double post, first post had 900 too many characters lmao


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Tags:naoki itou n neko アークix nifty cordi victorfernando -tochi starset hb24
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bezbashn
[Insane]
00:56:290 (5) - Maybe put this with 00:57:601 in a stack ?
01:01:242 (6,7,9) - Maybe it's just me, but for aesthetics look out for things like that


01:10:271 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - Looks perfect centered, but it's not :o



02:00:076 - I'd make this stream one of this shapes

[Starset's Extra]
00:44:931 (4) - NC perhaps ?
01:50:610 - This piano sound is last and it goes longer than just a single note. Would like it to be made as a slider to 01:50:756

[-Tochi's Extra]
00:03:734 (6,1) - Stack them for the greater good
00:04:934 (3,4) - These two are in contrast of previous two. You need player to realise that there is a time gap between them. Space them a bit
00:13:334 (8) - All previous sounds are going lower but you've emphasized just this one with bigger spacing. Make all circles increase/decrease spacing between each other or don't do anything.
00:32:134 (1,1,1,1) - No practical use of NC. All sounds are the same. Also there is no sudden change in music.
01:14:057 (1,3) - Since this difficulty is extra i guess placing it this way is okay. Just decided to mention.

Then there are just repeating things
Topic Starter
zhu

bezbashn wrote:

[Insane]
00:56:290 (5) - Maybe put this with 00:57:601 in a stack ? fixed
01:01:242 (6,7,9) - Maybe it's just me, but for aesthetics look out for things like that fixed


01:10:271 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - Looks perfect centered, but it's not :ofixed



02:00:076 - I'd make this stream one if this shapes made straight
Narcissu

General

  1. try use 192kbps mp3 .
  2. and i think clips will be better than fade out, simple example: http://puu.sh/yUJ3u/fc3fddef32.mp3
  3. 01:51:338 - need‘t red line?

Redemption

  1. 00:02:134 (2,3) - NC same as 00:08:534 (2,1) - ?
  2. 00:10:534 (1,2,3) - i dislike stacking in downbeat lol, i will jump here as your “add whistle” 00:10:934 (2,3) - 00:11:534 (4,5) - http://puu.sh/yUJf1/ad457cf5fa.jpg
  3. 00:18:734 - maybe you follow voice, but i suggest add note here 。and 00:16:934 (2) - 1/1 better imo
  4. 00:40:854 (1,2,3) - 01:26:290 (7,8,9) - 01:29:786 (5,6,7) - it's really bad, 3hit before downbeat is common sense of music. if you want to add 3hit, should be like 01:43:038 (4,5,1) - 02:00:076 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - under normal conditions
Topic Starter
zhu

Narcissu wrote:

General

  1. try use 192kbps mp3 . alright
  2. and i think clips will be better than fade out, simple example: http://puu.sh/yUJ3u/fc3fddef32.mp3 I will consider this
  3. 01:51:338 - need‘t red line? fixed

Redemption

  1. 00:02:134 (2,3) - NC same as 00:08:534 (2,1) - ? fixed
  2. 00:10:534 (1,2,3) - i dislike stacking in downbeat lol, i will jump here as your “add whistle” 00:10:934 (2,3) - 00:11:534 (4,5) - http://puu.sh/yUJf1/ad457cf5fa.jpg fixed
  3. 00:18:734 - maybe you follow voice, but i suggest add note here 。and 00:16:934 (2) - 1/1 better imo it is better this way
  4. 00:40:854 (1,2,3) - 01:26:290 (7,8,9) - 01:29:786 (5,6,7) - it's really bad, 3hit before downbeat is common sense of music. if you want to add 3hit, should be like 01:43:038 (4,5,1) - 02:00:076 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - under normal conditions fixed one
ailv
General Stuff

fix ur slider colours/borders and stuff, they're not the same across all diffs.

Check these hs they have >5ms delay

drum-hitclap.wav
normal-hitclap.wav
normal-hitclap2.wav
normal-hitclap4.wav

Redemption

00:09:334 (1,2,3,1) - spacing is too large, even though it's 1/1 compare to earlier 00:02:134 (2,1) - , 00:04:934 (3,4) - or 00:06:534 (6,1) -
00:07:334 (1,2) - flow is bad here, 00:08:534 (2) - nudge this over so it's in line with the exit of 1

00:13:734 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - all of this is kind of bad rhythm wise, i'd use more filler rhythm, cause as it stands the entire background is being ignored in favour of the vocals, and that's not emphasized well either
for example, 00:16:334 (1) - begins on a piano, and misses the big vocal tick here. Try not to mix instrument like this, it doesn't work well.
00:19:734 (3,4) - Certain spacings are also really low :c you lose a lot of emphasis this way.

00:40:926 (2) - theres no note here.00:40:999 (3,4) - stack 4 under 3? i dont think there's enough reason for there to be much movement here, 4 isn't a very strong note.

00:42:164 (3,4) - spacing is too large, this note has no drum it's just a muted string. 00:42:455 (4,5) - needs more spacing since there is a drum

00:43:766 (1,2,3,4) - this isn't 1/4 it's 1/4 rhythm, 2 and 4 are mapped to nothing at all. 00:43:620 (4,1) - This low angle and spacing is very awkward to play.

00:46:679 (1,2) - spacing is too low

00:50:174 (2) - rhythm starting here is wonky. I'd recommend checking to make sure strong sounds are clickable and weak sounds aren't. The current way seems abstract and it's difficult to identify the instrument each note is mapped to, there's not really much consistency. Some examples below:
00:50:465 (3) - should be 2 notes, 00:50:756 (4,5) - should be 1 slider
00:53:087 (4,5) - should be a slider, 00:52:795 (3) - two notes.

01:03:863 (7,8) - spacing is literally a cross-screen jump that's basically unsupported by the music whatsoever. 01:03:572 (5,6,7,8) - these 4 circles are much less intense than 01:02:989 (1,2,3,4) - but use much higher spacing.

01:07:941 (3,4,5) - Pattern like this makes no sense really. You kill any sort of spacing emphasis, they're all different sounds, and you've never done this sort of stacking before.

this section also has many issues, 01:08:815 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - rhythm wise.
01:10:271 (6,7) - should be a slider, 01:09:543 (4) - should be 2 circles.

The rhythm and spacing issues persist for the rest of the map, I'll stop on this diff for now. Feel free to ask me ingame if you need help or if you want another check later once you've replied.

-Tochi's Extra

01:31:533 (custom set number)
01:51:339 (kiai)

double green lines

00:07:284 (1,2) - is kind of misleading since, 00:09:634 (4,5) - is 1/4th rhythm.

00:15:734 (1,2,1,1,1,2) - I don't think you need nc spam here or here 00:21:934 (1,1,1,1,2,1,1) -, 00:32:134 (1,1,1,1) - , it's really excessive, nc spam doesn't need to be used to make it easier to read or anything they're pretty simple patterns in a slow spot.

01:02:407 (1,2) - these have the guitar while, 01:02:698 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - don't. It'd be better to make them distinguished.

01:33:863 (1,1,1,1) - unneeded nc's 01:35:465 (1) -, 01:43:766 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - , 01:50:318 (1,1,1) -

01:52:649 (2) - stacking this really kills the emphasis

01:53:377 (5,6) - spacing feels low

very fun map c:
Starset

bezbashn wrote:

[Starset's Extra]
00:44:931 (4) - NC perhaps ? //not needed
01:50:610 - This piano sound is last and it goes longer than just a single note. Would like it to be made as a slider to 01:50:756 //i prefer keeping it
osu file format v14

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Topic Starter
zhu

ailv wrote:

General Stuff

fix ur slider colours/borders and stuff, they're not the same across all diffs. Intentional

Check these hs they have >5ms delay

drum-hitclap.wav
normal-hitclap.wav
normal-hitclap2.wav
normal-hitclap4.wav Took them from ranked set so it is okay

Redemption

00:09:334 (1,2,3,1) - spacing is too large, even though it's 1/1 compare to earlier 00:02:134 (2,1) - , 00:04:934 (3,4) - or 00:06:534 (6,1) - not really i am following the strong piano

00:07:334 (1,2) - flow is bad here, 00:08:534 (2) - nudge this over so it's in line with the exit of 1 fixed

00:13:734 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - all of this is kind of bad rhythm wise, i'd use more filler rhythm, cause as it stands the entire background is being ignored in favour of the vocals, and that's not emphasized well either
for example, 00:16:334 (1) - begins on a piano, and misses the big vocal tick here. Try not to mix instrument like this, it doesn't work well.
00:19:734 (3,4) - Certain spacings are also really low :c you lose a lot of emphasis this way. will try to remap this section

00:40:926 (2) - theres no note here.00:40:999 (3,4) - stack 4 under 3? i dont think there's enough reason for there to be much movement here, 4 isn't a very strong note. fixed

00:42:164 (3,4) - spacing is too large, this note has no drum it's just a muted string. 00:42:455 (4,5) - needs more spacing since there is a drum
fixed
00:43:766 (1,2,3,4) - this isn't 1/4 it's 1/4 rhythm, 2 and 4 are mapped to nothing at all. 00:43:620 (4,1) - This low angle and spacing is very awkward to play. fixed

00:46:679 (1,2) - spacing is too low fixed

00:50:174 (2) - rhythm starting here is wonky. I'd recommend checking to make sure strong sounds are clickable and weak sounds aren't. The current way seems abstract and it's difficult to identify the instrument each note is mapped to, there's not really much consistency. Some examples below:
00:50:465 (3) - should be 2 notes, 00:50:756 (4,5) - should be 1 slider
00:53:087 (4,5) - should be a slider, 00:52:795 (3) - two notes. fixed

01:03:863 (7,8) - spacing is literally a cross-screen jump that's basically unsupported by the music whatsoever. 01:03:572 (5,6,7,8) - these 4 circles are much less intense than 01:02:989 (1,2,3,4) - but use much higher spacing. fixed

01:07:941 (3,4,5) - Pattern like this makes no sense really. You kill any sort of spacing emphasis, they're all different sounds, and you've never done this sort of stacking before. trying to emphasize lyrics

this section also has many issues, 01:08:815 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - rhythm wise.
01:10:271 (6,7) - should be a slider, 01:09:543 (4) - should be 2 circles. fixed

The rhythm and spacing issues persist for the rest of the map, I'll stop on this diff for now. Feel free to ask me ingame if you need help or if you want another check later once you've replied.
YukiZura-
q

[Reality]
00:14:934 (2) - how about replace this sldier with a note or extend it to here 00:15:334 - feels like that slider is out of place huhu
01:07:941 (3,4,5) - nc all this slider to present the velocity changes
02:01:096 (3) - tidy up pls ;-; for example

00:49:300 (1) - wait why nc here lol .. should be here 00:49:082 (7) -
00:50:174 (2,3) - i see your map use too many different slider shape , if you can pls avoid this because it makes the map look ugly (but slider map is another story xd) , if you decided with 00:50:174 (2) - this slider , 00:50:465 (3) - this slider also should be the same as the one before but difference rotation
00:58:038 (6,1) - hurm bad transition , move the slider end to X:120 Y:148 for better transition
01:51:047 (3) - no sound :(

[insane]
00:34:334 (3) - remove whistle
01:14:932 (1) - nc here?
00:32:534 (8,1) - blanket this

insane look good enough xd

[normal]
00:42:601 - why break here lol ..
00:56:290 (2,1) - blanket pls
02:06:484 (3,4) - hurm should be here 02:06:193 - , to avoid comfusing new player

ok that's all ><
goodluck
Topic Starter
zhu

YukiZura- wrote:

q

[Reality]
00:14:934 (2) - how about replace this sldier with a note or extend it to here 00:15:334 - feels like that slider is out of place huhu
01:07:941 (3,4,5) - nc all this slider to present the velocity changes
02:01:096 (3) - tidy up pls ;-; for example

00:49:300 (1) - wait why nc here lol .. should be here 00:49:082 (7) -
00:50:174 (2,3) - i see your map use too many different slider shape , if you can pls avoid this because it makes the map look ugly (but slider map is another story xd) , if you decided with 00:50:174 (2) - this slider , 00:50:465 (3) - this slider also should be the same as the one before but difference rotation
00:58:038 (6,1) - hurm bad transition , move the slider end to X:120 Y:148 for better transition
01:51:047 (3) - no sound :(

[insane]
00:34:334 (3) - remove whistle
01:14:932 (1) - nc here?
00:32:534 (8,1) - blanket this

insane look good enough xd

[normal]
00:42:601 - why break here lol ..
00:56:290 (2,1) - blanket pls
02:06:484 (3,4) - hurm should be here 02:06:193 - , to avoid comfusing new player

ok that's all ><
goodluck
Fixed all thanks for mod
-Tochi

bezbashn wrote:

[-Tochi's Extra]
00:03:734 (6,1) - Stack them for the greater good this is intentionally unstacked
00:04:934 (3,4) - These two are in contrast of previous two. You need player to realise that there is a time gap between them. Space them a bit will be inconsistent if I change to your recommendation
00:13:334 (8) - All previous sounds are going lower but you've emphasized just this one with bigger spacing. Make all circles increase/decrease spacing between each other or don't do anything. listen closely, it goes like this: lower > higher
00:32:134 (1,1,1,1) - No practical use of NC. All sounds are the same. Also there is no sudden change in music. This is intentional, I do this on piano parts like this
01:14:057 (1,3) - Since this difficulty is extra i guess placing it this way is okay. Just decided to mention. what

Then there are just repeating things

ailv wrote:

-Tochi's Extra

01:31:533 (custom set number) Fixed!
01:51:339 (kiai) Fixed!

double green lines

00:07:284 (1,2) - is kind of misleading since, 00:09:634 (4,5) - is 1/4th rhythm. Not a big deal imo

00:15:734 (1,2,1,1,1,2) - I don't think you need nc spam here or here 00:21:934 (1,1,1,1,2,1,1) -, 00:32:134 (1,1,1,1) - , it's really excessive, nc spam doesn't need to be used to make it easier to read or anything they're pretty simple patterns in a slow spot. Those ncs are clearly intentional so I want to keep them since they're representing spacing changes in the piano parts i map with them. It's a big part of this mapping style.

01:02:407 (1,2) - these have the guitar while, 01:02:698 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - don't. It'd be better to make them distinguished. I don't follow the guitar here, it's almost hard to notice it lol. I follow the violin

01:33:863 (1,1,1,1) - unneeded nc's 01:35:465 (1) -, 01:43:766 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - , 01:50:318 (1,1,1) - Same answer as before, I don't think you know why I did this

01:52:649 (2) - stacking this really kills the emphasis Seems fine to me

01:53:377 (5,6) - spacing feels low eh
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276,214,110318,5,2,0:0:0:0:
246,319,110464,5,2,0:0:0:0:
125,327,110609,5,2,0:0:0:0:
109,318,111339,6,0,P|154:334|216:331,1,107.999996704102,4|0,1:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
402,233,111630,1,8,0:0:0:0:
316,372,111775,1,0,0:0:0:0:
167,236,111921,2,0,B|153:186|153:186|176:134,1,107.999996704102,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
463,87,112212,1,8,0:0:0:0:
248,190,112358,1,0,1:0:0:0:
486,283,112504,5,0,3:0:0:0:
500,289,112649,1,0,1:0:0:0:
349,369,112795,1,8,0:0:0:0:
240,214,112940,2,0,B|153:210|153:210|120:245|120:245|28:240,1,215.999993408203,0|0,3:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
117,42,113377,1,8,0:0:0:0:
83,157,113523,1,0,3:0:0:0:
264,36,113669,6,0,B|332:22|332:22|371:33,1,107.999996704102,4|0,1:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
486,283,113960,1,8,0:0:0:0:
330,124,114105,2,0,P|316:228|299:344,1,215.999993408203,0|0,3:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
93,325,114542,1,8,0:0:0:0:
291,363,114688,1,0,1:0:0:0:
167,193,114834,6,0,P|223:188|282:181,1,107.999996704102,0|0,3:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
434,84,115125,1,8,0:0:0:0:
441,291,115271,2,0,B|361:299|361:299|310:272|310:272|222:281,1,215.999993408203,0|0,3:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
386,178,115707,1,8,0:0:0:0:
204,284,115853,1,0,3:0:0:0:
322,86,115999,5,4,1:2:0:0:
478,285,116144,1,0,3:0:0:0:
274,181,116290,2,0,P|220:173|157:168,1,107.999996704102,8|0,1:2|3:0,0:0:0:0:
289,350,116581,2,0,P|342:344|396:337,1,107.999996704102,0|0,1:0|3:0,0:0:0:0:
493,86,116872,5,8,1:2:0:0:
333,257,117018,1,0,3:0:0:0:
149,62,117164,2,0,P|158:111|167:174,1,107.999996704102,0|0,1:0|3:0,0:0:0:0:
476,192,117455,2,0,P|483:138|493:85,1,107.999996704102,8|0,1:2|3:0,0:0:0:0:
53,156,117746,5,0,1:0:0:0:
361,89,117892,1,0,3:0:0:0:
144,244,118038,5,8,1:2:0:0:
323,204,118184,1,0,3:0:0:0:
26,56,118329,6,0,B|93:42|93:42|131:54,1,107.999996704102,4|0,1:2|3:0,0:0:0:0:
59,263,118620,1,8,1:2:0:0:
247,313,118766,2,0,B|314:327|314:327|352:319,1,107.999996704102,0|0,3:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
487,237,119057,1,0,3:0:0:0:
388,310,119203,1,8,1:2:0:0:
479,142,119348,2,0,P|425:131|357:121,1,107.999996704102,0|0,3:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
100,352,119639,1,0,3:0:0:0:
192,229,119785,2,0,P|243:217|298:210,1,107.999996704102,8|0,1:2|3:0,0:0:0:0:
501,68,120076,5,8,3:2:0:0:
461,50,120148,1,8,0:0:0:0:
420,37,120221,1,8,3:2:0:0:
377,29,120294,1,8,0:0:0:0:
336,12,120367,5,8,3:2:0:0:
293,12,120440,1,8,0:0:0:0:
250,18,120512,1,8,3:2:0:0:
208,28,120585,1,8,0:0:0:0:
162,35,120659,6,0,P|139:86|156:134,1,107.999996704102,4|0,1:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
388,289,120950,1,8,0:0:0:0:
179,228,121096,2,0,P|122:218|55:213,1,107.999996704102,0|0,0:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
263,107,121387,1,0,0:0:0:0:
44,213,121533,1,8,0:0:0:0:
276,251,121678,1,0,1:0:0:0:
162,35,121824,5,0,3:0:0:0:
154,22,121970,1,0,1:0:0:0:
178,213,122115,1,8,0:0:0:0:
374,53,122261,2,0,P|285:59|161:34,1,215.999993408203,0|0,3:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
34,317,122698,2,0,P|86:305|140:307,1,107.999996704102,8|0,0:0|3:0,0:0:0:0:
381,363,122989,5,4,1:2:0:0:
273,157,123135,1,0,0:0:0:0:
232,280,123280,2,0,P|285:282|338:270,1,107.999996704102,8|0,0:0|3:0,0:0:0:0:
339,49,123572,2,0,P|286:37|232:39,1,107.999996704102,0|0,0:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
50,141,123863,1,8,0:0:0:0:
381,363,124008,6,0,P|403:257|434:153,1,215.999993408203,0|0,1:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
339,49,124445,1,8,0:0:0:0:
512,278,124591,1,0,3:0:0:0:
258,200,124737,1,0,0:0:0:0:
460,60,124882,1,0,1:0:0:0:
450,90,124954,1,0,1:0:0:0:
441,122,125027,1,0,0:0:0:0:
433,153,125101,1,0,1:0:0:0:
425,184,125173,1,0,3:0:0:0:
419,216,125246,1,0,1:0:0:0:
413,248,125318,5,4,1:2:0:0:
210,111,125465,1,0,3:0:0:0:
240,356,125610,1,8,1:2:0:0:
333,169,125756,1,0,3:0:0:0:
58,261,125902,2,0,P|47:207|29:148,1,107.999996704102,0|0,1:0|3:0,0:0:0:0:
361,29,126193,5,8,1:2:0:0:
175,226,126339,1,0,3:0:0:0:
250,22,126484,1,0,1:0:0:0:
433,153,126630,1,0,3:0:0:0:
136,28,126775,2,0,P|145:81|151:134,1,107.999996704102,8|0,1:2|3:0,0:0:0:0:
391,278,127067,5,0,1:0:0:0:
175,250,127212,1,0,3:0:0:0:
464,160,127358,5,8,1:2:0:0:
371,378,127503,1,0,3:0:0:0:
100,303,127649,6,0,B|79:265|79:265|98:199,1,107.999996704102,4|0,1:2|3:0,0:0:0:0:
417,262,127940,1,8,1:2:0:0:
192,240,128086,2,0,P|249:234|313:225,1,107.999996704102,0|0,3:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
264,353,128377,1,0,3:0:0:0:
180,139,128523,1,8,1:2:0:0:
406,240,128669,6,0,P|349:234|285:225,1,107.999996704102,0|0,3:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
54,107,128960,1,0,3:0:0:0:
0,317,129105,2,0,B|55:328|55:328|100:302,1,107.999996704102,12|0,1:2|3:0,0:0:0:0:
180,139,129397,1,12,3:2:0:0:
43,230,129542,1,8,3:2:0:0:
146,51,129688,2,0,B|201:40|201:40|246:66,1,107.999996704102,12|8,3:2|3:2,0:0:0:0:
488,297,129979,6,0,P|394:340|310:268,1,215.999993408203,4|8,1:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
269,85,130416,1,0,0:0:0:0:
201,283,130562,2,0,P|153:306|93:299,1,107.999996704102,0|0,1:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
1,93,130853,1,8,0:0:0:0:
138,208,130999,1,0,1:0:0:0:
18,328,131144,5,0,3:0:0:0:
256,371,131290,1,0,1:0:0:0:
138,208,131436,2,0,P|125:159|119:98,1,107.999996704102,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
128,334,131727,1,0,1:0:0:0:
232,161,131872,1,0,1:0:0:0:
136,356,132018,1,8,0:0:0:0:
6,177,132164,1,0,3:0:0:0:
255,36,132309,6,0,P|348:46|478:48,1,215.999993408203,0|8,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
416,312,132746,1,0,1:0:0:0:
323,174,132892,2,0,P|315:201|302:230,1,53.9999983520508,8|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
218,291,133038,5,0,1:0:0:0:
60,259,133183,5,0,1:0:0:0:
13,126,133329,5,0,1:0:0:0:
90,26,133474,6,0,L|184:17,1,90,4|0,1:2|3:0,0:0:0:0:
150,127,133766,1,0,3:0:0:0:
150,127,133911,1,0,3:0:0:0:
211,14,134057,5,0,3:0:0:0:
323,174,134203,1,0,3:0:0:0:
180,262,134348,5,0,3:0:0:0:
351,158,134494,1,0,3:0:0:0:
121,125,134639,1,0,1:0:0:0:
VINXIS
Fucking placehodler didnt mod today cuz i was eaten up by gay ass shit
Topic Starter
zhu

Mishima Yurara wrote:

Fucking placehodler didnt mod today cuz i was eaten up by gay ass shit
it is okay just mod it today ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Djulus
last
00:39:334 (1) - nc
00:40:999 (2,3) - stacking on 1/4 so weirdly imo
01:07:941 (7,8,9) - that part needs more ds cuz this pattern looks weird imo
02:13:474 (11) - nc
02:13:620 (1) - it would be better if you put spinnner on blue tick
tochi
00:49:591 (1,2) - overlap,that stack will be plays very weird imo if you did stack on like 01:10:417 (2,3) -
01:10:417 (2,3) - it would be better if you make better flow for this pattern
01:39:397 (3) - this reverse follows "nothing" not instrumental not vocal, 1/1 slider better imo
02:14:348 (1,3) - nc?
starset
best
but 00:49:883 (6) - why nc, on this moment didn't have big sound imo
insane
00:54:252 (6,8) - what about unstack 00:54:398 (7,9) - and pls nerf ds, too far for insane
00:58:621 (5,6) - same with ds
01:19:592 (6) - replace this circle on left side for better flow cuz ds looks weirdly
01:54:250 (4) - same with ds
verY
01:43:183 (1,2) - what with ds,its should be better if you do for this same ds like 01:47:843 (1,2) - (i mean you should fix ds on slow part cuz looks weirdly for me)
01:51:775 (2,3) - idk but you should fix ds uwu.
nice diff btw
victor
01:51:339 (9) - ctrl+g? cuz big sound+better flow
02:05:902 (3) - why 3/4? would be better if you use 1/2 for some aesthetics
normal
00:21:934 (3,4) - fix ds
this diff needs more aesthetics patterns not a just 1/4 jumps for example use some 1/2 sliders
easy
clean
Namki
[Redemption]
  1. 00:04:534 - / 00:05:734 - / 00:06:334 - / etc - they're giving too much feedback to player but there's no even a sound. I suggest you to silence sliderends.
  2. 00:30:334 (4) - you are undermapping vocals right now, by judging the entire section I could say that you're prioritizing vocals over instrumentals and sometimes when vocals end you map according to instrumental. It's decent rhythm choice but this certain pattern breaks this idea. Consider replacing it with a circle on red tick and a 1/2 slider on white tick.
  3. 00:40:999 (2,3) - pretty emphasis lacking pattern. 00:41:290 - music here is quite prominent for being understacked with a slider. Something like that would fit.
  4. 00:43:038 (10) - don't you think it's too way prominent to have it that unemphasized? This sound is outstading and spacing should be so. Consider making spacing bigger for better emphasis.
  5. 00:44:349 (5,6) - stack isn't something good to play here, you stop cursor movement and also it goes sorta inconsistent.
  6. 00:54:252 (9,10,11,12) - music kinda changes here, bigger spacing for better emphasis?
  7. 00:57:601 (2,3,4) - spacing looks pretty illogical. 00:57:747 - it has more prominent sound under than this 00:57:892 - so the first circle should've spaced more than the second.
  8. 01:21:922 (2,1,2,1) - flow is really uncomfortable here. Angle suddenly becomes too wide here 01:22:067 (1,2,1,2,3,4,5) - and it makes little sense as well. There are no sounds to change flow angle in this way. Consider making angle less wide, you can do it simply move this circle 01:22:212 (2) - somewhere down this circle 01:21:922 (2) - . Furthermore, if you make that jump bigger it would emphasize music better. For instance, https://namki.s-ul.eu/F0MKmd2D.jpg .
  9. Okay, I will summarize my main concern for this diff. It's spacing emphasis. As I said earlier, map lacks it. Also, your map is pretty "generic" as they say so logic here is something about "more prominent sound - more spacing" and sometimes you are following this logic but sometimes you do not. Try to make it more consistent. Some examples: 01:23:815 (6) - it's like the peak of measure and beat is kinda audible, 01:25:417 (5) - too prominent for being stacked, 01:30:951 (4,5,6,7) - the same, 01:53:669 (3,4) - the same (but some stackes are perfectly fitting, I only pointed out these which had prominent sound on the second circle), etc. I think you've got my idea.
  10. 01:26:582 (5,6) - I'm quite satisfied with this one but you may like to follow 1/2 here, instead. Because these sound are kinda outstanding and they appear like only one time per part, so. Arguable. Try to recieve feedback on this.
  11. 01:41:145 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - that's soooo inaudible. Mind explaining what are you following there?
  12. 01:45:441 (6,7) - minor. Maybe try to avoid overlap?
  13. 01:51:047 (3) - this circle makes no sense at all. There's no music so I assume you were following vocals but how about this 01:51:193 - it has vocals, too! Consider either deleting this circle or add one more at 01:51:193 - .



[-Tochi's Xtra]
  1. Just compare 00:51:630 - with 00:51:921 - , from my side they sounds pretty similar but spacing is very different, consider making it more consistent.
  2. 00:56:873 (7) - mhm, piano is something outstanding for this part so it would be logical to have this circle spaced more. Like, something of this kind https://namki.s-ul.eu/O4Fywng8.jpg . And NC to emphasize it even more.
  3. 00:59:057 (7,1) - do you think that harsh broken flow is played in a good way after pretty dense 1/4 part? Try ctrl+H out. Maybe you like it more but it's discussable, though.
  4. 00:59:931 (3,5) - perfectl stack feels out of the context. Pretty inconsistent, you haven't done it before for this part so consider making it that way 00:53:087 (4,5,6) -
  5. 01:27:019 (7) - I don't really like smaller spacing here, it make little sense to me. Instrumentals are quite prominent.
  6. It seems like some kind of idea if yours but I disagree with these stacks 01:52:504 (1,2) - and 02:01:824 (1,2) - it's the new measure and vocals are too way strong.я



[Starset's Xtra]
  1. 00:47:261 (5,6,7) - my concern here is in lack of spacing emphasis. Each of them require more spacing 00:47:261 (5,6) - too way outstanding and strong sounds. And this needs less spacing 00:47:553 (7) - because this sound is weaker than 00:47:261 (5,6) - so having it spaced more makes little sense.
  2. 00:48:135 (2,3,4) - back'n'forth jumps with 00:48:426 (4,5,6,7) - triangle jumps do not work here as you wanted. Angles are too way different and it makes it looks kinda messy and break the flow. I'd want to move my cursor back to 00:48:281 (3) - after hitting 00:48:426 (4) - but you have wide triangle after narrow one.
  3. 00:49:009 (1,2,3,4,5) - maybe use bigger spacing? Music is pretty dense so it's quite logical.
  4. 00:52:213 (7,1,2,3) - as I already said, 00:52:504 - new measure so bigger spacing is the best choice here. That would be a waste of time and energy if I point all patterns like this one, so I'll point few of them and you decide whether listen to me or not.
    01:14:057 (3,4,5) - acceleration looks pretty senseless here, this 01:14:349 - sound isn't really that important to prioritize it over these 01:14:057 (3,4) - .
  5. 01:51:630 (2) - if something like that was fine before the kiai section then now it sounds kinda lacking some emphasis. Sound is too way prominent for being stacked. The same goes for 02:00:950 - and others like these two.
  6. 02:06:484 (1,2) - small spacing out of nowhere. Music isn't meant to be either calm or have less density, this requires more emphasis for sure.


[Insane]
  1. Okay, I've pointed that quite few but 00:43:039 (1) - this sounds pretty weird, having such strong sound understacked isn't the best way of emphasizing things. The soulution would be simply unstack and make jump to that prominent sound.
  2. 00:45:514 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - nice triangles but they kinda cover theirselves and it goes visually unpleasant. Consider just placing it a bit right every time new triangle appear. Like that https://namki.s-ul.eu/52alsRvY.jpg
  3. 00:47:407 - it defenitely has kinda audible sound.
  4. And as I've pointed again 00:48:282 (2) - density is starting to rise and having small spacing makes little sense. If you had spacing acceleration
  5. 01:01:242 (6,7,8,9) - it would be spacing-wise correct to make it that way because each of 01:01:387 (7,8,9) - have the same sound and the different one is 01:01:242 - .
  6. 01:15:223 (2,3,4,5,1) - you are decelerating spacing which doesn't make sense at all, I agree with bigger spacing here 01:15:223 (2,3) - because of snare but 01:15:806 (1) - defenitely needs more spacing. Alright, I will not write just timestamps with "bigger spacing due to prominency" or "less spacing because of weakness". Will point out few patterns and you'll decide if you find my point of view correct. 01:20:465 - bigger due to prominency, 01:24:834 - the same, 01:53:376 (5,6) - bigger spacing because of vocals and less spacing makes little sense as music didn't become less strong, etc. You've got what I mean.
  7. 01:22:359 (8) - NC because of other instrument is introduced.
  8. 01:51:339 (1,3) - minor. It's overlapping just by one pixel, move it pleease?


[Very Hard]
  1. If higher difficulties were finу with NC here I recommend you to place NC every new measure, it's quite hard to deal with combo of 8 in Hard.
  2. 01:16:095 (2) - rhythm seems weird. Vocals are 1/2 as well as instrumentals, consider replacing with two 1/2 sliders.
  3. Spacing to 01:16:678 (3) - is too way small, you had 1.7x with 1/2 gap but this one looks like 1/2 pattern instead of 1/1. So, ye, bigger spacing for sure.
  4. 01:18:718 - mhm, this sudden rhythm change isn't really a good idea, try to fill this with objects. Also, spacing there as for 1/2 gap but you have there 3/4 gap.
  5. 01:24:834 (1,2) - switch NC. Also, they seem to correalte with each other but music is too different. Try differen slidershapes or angles.
  6. 01:50:319 (1) - you express this piano in the same way as 01:47:843 (1) - / 01:48:717 (1) - / etc. - so this rhythm-wise lacking, try just 3 circles with something about 1.2x spacing, istead.
  7. The rhythm in kiai is something I disagree with. So, why is this kiai? Because it's a chrous and it's music apogee but rhythm is undermapping both vocals and intrumentals also rhythms have too way little density. Also, spacing is even smaller than in non-kiai parts. I highly recommend you to reconsider kiai part fully with dense enough patterns and with logical spacing.


[Victor's Hard]
  1. I don't really know if this concern of mine is that solid here since it's Hard and it's not supposed to be complex and reflect music by 100 percent but still. 00:46:824 (1,2) - it's stacked and 00:46:824 - stronger than 00:46:970 - so it's logical to stack these but on the other hand 00:47:407 (4,5) - music is pretty the same for 00:47:407 - and 00:47:553 - (I would even say 00:47:553 - is more prominent) so it lacks logic. The same here 00:52:358 (4,5) - it's even the new measure. I suggest you to keep some of the stacks and remove stacks on that prominent sounds.
  2. 00:49:591 (6) - that's too obvious issue as for me. Replace it?
  3. 01:01:679 - want to see a circle here.
  4. Maybe NC every 01:48:717 (3) - / 01:49:591 (5) - / 01:50:319 (7) - and 01:51:047 (8) - . The last two ones defenitely should be NC'd and 01:51:339 (9,1) - switched NC for sure.
  5. 01:50:319 (7) - the same concern as for Very Hard. You expressed it in the same way as 01:47:844 (1) - / 01:48:717 (3) - and 01:49:591 (5) - so maybe circles for variety.


[Normal]
  1. I am not really sure if this recover time is enough 01:01:970 (1) - for 206 bpm.
  2. 01:20:466 (1,2) - and 01:47:261 (3,1) - stacks appear only twice per diff. It's really better to remove them as they do not go consistently so it's hard to handle with sudden stacks.


[Easy]
  1. 00:52:504 (1,1) - yup, it's noticeable ingame. Try to avoid?
  2. 01:40:853 (1,2) - I heard it is not the best idea to make comoplex slidershapes as these in easy. Consider making path more linear.


gl~
Starset

Djulus wrote:

starset
best
but 00:49:883 (6) - why nc, on this moment didn't have big sound imo //better for reading cuz there a 1/1 pause

Namki wrote:

[Starset's Xtra]
  1. 00:47:261 (5,6,7) - my concern here is in lack of spacing emphasis. Each of them require more spacing 00:47:261 (5,6) - too way outstanding and strong sounds. And this needs less spacing 00:47:553 (7) - because this sound is weaker than 00:47:261 (5,6) - so having it spaced more makes little sense. //just fyi but sliders are easier to hit than circles so they may be more spaced but the effort to reach it is easier than for circles but tryed adjusting it anyway
  2. 00:48:135 (2,3,4) - back'n'forth jumps with 00:48:426 (4,5,6,7) - triangle jumps do not work here as you wanted. Angles are too way different and it makes it looks kinda messy and break the flow. I'd want to move my cursor back to 00:48:281 (3) - after hitting 00:48:426 (4) - but you have wide triangle after narrow one. //idk how it is a problem
  3. 00:49:009 (1,2,3,4,5) - maybe use bigger spacing? Music is pretty dense so it's quite logical. //every pattern in my maps is related to each other stacks and overlaps etc...i kinda like my positioning so we'll see for now
  4. 00:52:213 (7,1,2,3) - as I already said, 00:52:504 - new measure so bigger spacing is the best choice here. That would be a waste of time and energy if I point all patterns like this one, so I'll point few of them and you decide whether listen to me or not. //maybe its a new measure but if u listen the violin gets more intense after thats why i chose to make a build up
    01:14:057 (3,4,5) - acceleration looks pretty senseless here, this 01:14:349 - sound isn't really that important to prioritize it over these 01:14:057 (3,4) - .//i prioritize drums (claps) thats why it has more spacing
  5. 01:51:630 (2) - if something like that was fine before the kiai section then now it sounds kinda lacking some emphasis. Sound is too way prominent for being stacked. The same goes for 02:00:950 - and others like these two. //keepin it consistent i dont wanna change it a 3rd time since it was already diffrent in the piano section
  6. 02:06:484 (1,2) - small spacing out of nowhere. Music isn't meant to be either calm or have less density, this requires more emphasis for sure. //2 dosent need much spacing theres nothing to emphasize on it and making everything very spaced just because the song is not calm isnt an option btw
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_Meep_
From Meep's Love Live Modding Queue!
00:16:934 (3) - NC?
00:20:134 (4,1) - Swap NC and add NC on 00:21:534 (2) - ?
00:32:934 (1) - NC this i guess, plays and seems better.
00:40:854 - This parts' NCs are pretty long honestly, and it kinda looks bad imo. Look 01:04:154 - here and you can see you NCed every big white tick or notable vocal sound that introduced another part. Why not use the same NCing as the later part in the early parts of the song? The NCing in this song is really messy tbh.
01:07:941 (7,8,9) - honestly there wouldnt be any emphasis on any of them since the players would just be resting their cursors on the sliderheads ._. this would only work if they were 3/4s.
01:11:145 (7) - NC this, why is the NCing different from 01:05:174 - ?
01:20:465 (6) - NC cause of loud sound
01:21:631 (2) - The jump part should start here, why is it that it starts on 01:21:485 (1) - ? Looking from 01:21:630 - the ncing pattern should also be something like
01:23:815 (6) - why is this not NCed when 01:25:853 (1) - is?
01:28:912 (1,2) - Swap NCs, it fits better.
01:45:222 (5,6,7) - This just looks bad visually, i rather you either overlap it more, or dont overlap it at all.
01:45:514 (7,4) - at least use the same slider
00:32:134 (1,1,1,1) - rather than emphasising certain notes i think you should make all these have the same DS, since you're mapping to the piano which barely changes in intensity.
00:37:534 (5) - according to how you NCed different parts, i think this should be NCed too.
really nice diff, like it.
gjob i cant find shit LOL
00:21:534 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - why is the DS changing so inconsistently here? If you want to map the increasing volume of the piano, increase the DS gradually.
00:44:932 (1,2) - it's really hard to hit this 1/8 reverse slider without sliderbreaking, i strongly suggest you change this.
01:10:272 (1) - this shouldnt be NCed according to how you mapped the earlier parts.
01:14:932 (1) - remove NC
01:49:008 (2,1) - this overlap ._.
01:51:339 (1,3) - this too..
01:52:212 (4) - put the clap here instead of 01:52:358 (5) - , why would u clap to the vocals?
01:59:347 (4,5,6,7) - flow is really bad here, players have to move they mouse further to the bottom left after already doing it once from 5-6, its annoying to hit and i think you should fix it.
02:05:901 (5,2) - i can let this slip but u can change if u want ;/
I don't really see any consistent emphasis on notes that have claps or powerful sounds in the chorus, or actualy in the whole map. May want to look at this again and remap parts of it.

thats all for now
the spread is somewhat bad because you're going from 3* -> 3.5* -> 5* which is a pretty high jump if i do say so miyself, therefore i suggest you add in a light insane or buff the hard
Arphimigon
Results given in [x, y] formats
[-Tochi's Extra]
01:31:969 - should be placed at: [98, 233] (currently at: [99, 234]) to move in line with slider at time 01:32:115 -
02:10:999 - should be placed at: [134, 205] (currently at: [138, 208]) to blanket slider body at time 02:10:562 -
[Cordi's Easy]
00:25:734 - should be placed at: [117, 235] (currently at: [118, 236]) to move in line with slider at time 00:24:534 -
[Insane]
00:47:262 - should be placed at: [191, 195] (currently at: [192, 192]) to blanket slider body at time 00:47:845 -
01:19:155 - should be placed at: [365, 190] (currently at: [360, 192]) to blanket slider body at time 01:19:738 -
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02:08:522 - should be placed at: [216, 122] (currently at: [220, 124]) to blanket slider body at time 02:08:668 -
[Normal]
Nothing Detected!
[Redemption]
01:44:348 - should be placed at: [399, 255] (currently at: [400, 256]) to move in line with slider at time 01:44:786 -
01:52:504 - should be placed at: [193, 139] (currently at: [194, 138]) to move in line with slider at time 01:52:940 -
[Starset's Extra]
02:08:669 - should be placed at: [65, 33] (currently at: [66, 32]) to move in line with slider at time 02:09:105 -
02:09:397 - should be placed at: [65, 33] (currently at: [66, 32]) to move in line with slider at time 02:09:105 -
02:09:979 - should be placed at: [326, 199] (currently at: [327, 200]) to move in line with slider at time 02:09:688 -
[Very Hard]
01:00:951 - should be placed at: [71, 239] (currently at: [72, 240]) to move in line with slider at time 01:01:241 -
[Victor's Hard]
00:09:734 - should be placed at: [439, 191] (currently at: [440, 192]) to move in line with slider at time 00:10:134 -
00:16:734 - should be placed at: [119, 215] (currently at: [120, 216]) to move in line with slider at time 00:16:934 -
01:21:339 - should be placed at: [232, 171] (currently at: [232, 168]) to blanket slider body at time 01:20:902 -
Stacked stuff will likely be off, so if those give wrong results, you can ignore those.
-Tochi

Djulus wrote:

tochi
00:49:591 (1,2) - overlap,that stack will be plays very weird imo if you did stack on like 01:10:417 (2,3) - It's 2 different sections, so it's fine imo
01:10:417 (2,3) - it would be better if you make better flow for this pattern I like the current flow more
01:39:397 (3) - this reverse follows "nothing" not instrumental not vocal, 1/1 slider better imo It's used to hold the vocal, seems rankable to be tbh
02:14:348 (1,3) - nc? ok

Namki wrote:

[-Tochi's Xtra]
  1. Just compare 00:51:630 - with 00:51:921 - , from my side they sounds pretty similar but spacing is very different, consider making it more consistent. Same sound, but different notes, it gets higher pitch = bigger spacing.
  2. 00:56:873 (7) - mhm, piano is something outstanding for this part so it would be logical to have this circle spaced more. Like, something of this kind https://namki.s-ul.eu/O4Fywng8.jpg . And NC to emphasize it even more. I think current placement is fine tbh
  3. 00:59:057 (7,1) - do you think that harsh broken flow is played in a good way after pretty dense 1/4 part? Try ctrl+H out. Maybe you like it more but it's discussable, though. I don't think, i know :p. I tested it before leaving it like this, and I liked it.
  4. 00:59:931 (3,5) - perfectl stack feels out of the context. Pretty inconsistent, you haven't done it before for this part so consider making it that way 00:53:087 (4,5,6) - fixed!
  5. 01:27:019 (7) - I don't really like smaller spacing here, it make little sense to me. Instrumentals are quite prominent. The spacing is big here though 01:26:727 (5,6) -
  6. It seems like some kind of idea if yours but I disagree with these stacks 01:52:504 (1,2) - and 02:01:824 (1,2) - it's the new measure and vocals are too way strong.я No need to change this concept imo

_Meep_ wrote:

00:32:134 (1,1,1,1) - rather than emphasising certain notes i think you should make all these have the same DS, since you're mapping to the piano which barely changes in intensity. Basically the piano gets more heavy, and the vocal gets lower, so making it certain by NCing seems fine to me
00:37:534 (5) - according to how you NCed different parts, i think this should be NCed too. Fixed!
really nice diff, like it. thanks!

Arphimigon wrote:

[-Tochi's Extra]
01:31:969 - should be placed at: [98, 233] (currently at: [99, 234]) to move in line with slider at time 01:32:115 - Stacking it normally seems better to me
02:10:999 - should be placed at: [134, 205] (currently at: [138, 208]) to blanket slider body at time 02:10:562 - Fixed!
Thanks for the mods everyone!
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Kaitjuh
Mod 4 Ticket from queue

Redemption

  1. 00:14:934 (2) - would be nicer if you mapped this with a circle + 1/2 slider so both vocal syllables are clickable, kinda like 00:21:334 (1,2) -
  2. 00:34:134 (2,3,4) - imo theres no reason for sv to suddenly be this large, there are no discernible changes in the music to warrant double sv. I recommend keeping it at 0.5 or 0.75.
  3. 00:37:334 - Since you kinda map both the piano and vocal, you should probably map the loud piano sound here as well.
  4. 00:38:334 - ^less intense but significant enough
  5. 00:37:534 (4) - when playing with SV changes, use NC's to indicate changes in the sv to help with readability.
  6. You seem to skip the NC on the downbeat occasionally, but you still NC the downbeat properly in other places like 00:44:931 (1) - 00:47:844 (1) - . Stay consistent with this please and NC every big white tick.
  7. 00:59:349 (6,1) - quite an awkward angle to be playing that slider with. I would suggest placing it elsewhere since stacking on 00:59:349 (6) - doesnt do it much good atm.
  8. 01:09:543 (4,5) - stacks work better if they're mapped on less significant sounds in the music. You've done this properly in previous pattern, but here, one of the two is a vocal sound so that should deserve a bit of movement for emphasis. I recommend stacking (4) on (3) instead of (5) for this reason.
  9. 01:13:475 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - this is kinda meh since it doesnt really represent the music/the part youre focusing a lot, and if you want to map the drums, the vocal is still just as strong as the times you chose to focus the vocals over drums, so that doesnt really make sense to me from a mapping perspective. I would recommend using sliders for the vocal sounds and circles for drums like you did in the other parts.
  10. 01:41:872 (5,6) - Ctrl+G the rhythm here, so the vocal lands on the sliderhead like the others.
  11. 01:51:338 - any reason why the sampleset is completely different in the kiai? The custom hitnormals suddenly disappeared which I noticed during my testplay.
  12. 01:57:892 (2,3) - Ctrl+G the rhythm for vocal priority
  13. 02:01:096 (3,4) - ^

-Tochi's Extra

  1. 00:05:334 (4) - the slight unstack is really minor here. I would suggest either fully stacking or moving it further, but since you mostly stacked fully this might have been a stacking error.
  2. 00:16:134 (1,1,1) - not a big fan of the NC spam here. Doesn't really indicate a change in music so its just kinda lol
  3. meh minor stuff, imo i dont really understand the rhythm choices a lot since to me, you dont seem to focus certain things in the music with your slider(head) usage xd

Starset's Extra

  1. 00:26:434 (8,1) - DS error?
  2. 00:52:504 (1) - move further away for emphasis of the cymbal?
  3. not much to point out


I'll poke you back soon, since I only modded three, you could look at the top three diffs of my map as well

Good luck o/
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