Takeshi Abo - Chloe-II -Perplexity- · forum

Shad0w1and

Joined April 2011

Shad0w1and 2017-06-07T20:17:29+00:00

[个人意见]
00:26:755 - 起downbeat（大白线
个人认为如果是新麻婆，在排列能力没有过关的情况下，CS越大越好，可以方便排版和进行基础练习，特别是这种低难度曲子。
其次，就个人而言，并不喜欢物件一路横冲直撞从左边屏幕横跨到右边，00:01:272 (2,3,4,5,6,7) -
然后对于overlap的问题，00:03:441 (1,2) - 00:06:333 (1,2) - 这种我感觉试很丑，而个人审美倾向于

SPOILER

当你遇到00:03:983 (2,3) - 这种乐曲明显停顿的，而且距离很长的，直接原地stack，不要放很远去。一样的，00:07:778 (3,4) -
00:10:670 (3,4) - 要不不包，要包就包好
00:15:007 (1,2) - 告诉我你为什么这个和之前的00:03:441 (1,2) - 间距不一样
00:16:453 (3,4) - stack，或者改成一个1/2反转滑条把中间那个音也压住
00:22:410 (1,1) - 这种慢曲忌讳这种切flow，推荐

SPOILER

00:28:924 (4) - 完全可以1/2
00:36:062 (2) - snap不上就别跟了。。你这要1/16才能压到...绿线也别乱用
00:38:321 (1,2,3) - 从距离上根本分不出来snap
01:16:563 - 应该是1/6的snap
整体问题太大，曲子也感觉不适合作图，硬要做图对麻婆的基本功也要求太高，最好放个一年等有经验再说。

[oiso]
00:05:610 (2) - 一般建议选择stack到00:03:441 (1) -
00:38:321 (1,3) - overlap难看
00:47:210 - 这一段都是跟风琴，调整红线之后想办法snap上

SPOILER

00:51:985 - 改成一个1/1

SPOILER

00:53:069 (1) - 1/2反转
00:55:961 (1) - 00:57:406 (3) - normal禁止，改

SPOILER

00:59:214 -

SPOILER

01:02:467 -

SPOILER

01:07:527 (1) - 禁止，自己改
01:19:093 (1) - 禁止
01:21:985 (1,3) - overlap难看
01:27:045 -

SPOILER

01:32:209 (3,4) - 减速也要保持目视间距统一
normal好很多，但是问题也太多，主要是切换音轨太突然，严格意义来说你这个diff的节奏复杂度是超纲的，属于hard的节奏难度放在超低bpm上，很多地方稍微考虑放弃铃声clap钢琴风琴其中之一就能让转折好很多

Imouto koko

95 posts

Joined January 2016

Topic Starter

Imouto koko 2017-06-08T03:58:30+00:00

Shad0w1and wrote:
[个人意见]
00:26:755 - 起downbeat（大白线发现了，改timing的时候忘加了，补了。
个人认为如果是新麻婆，在排列能力没有过关的情况下，CS越大越好，可以方便排版和进行基础练习，特别是这种低难度曲子。
其次，就个人而言，并不喜欢物件一路横冲直撞从左边屏幕横跨到右边，00:01:272 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - 这里也没太好的想法，感觉曲风适合这样，个人理解吧orz
然后对于overlap的问题，00:03:441 (1,2) - 00:06:333 (1,2) - 这种我感觉试很丑，而个人审美倾向于想了想统一了一下全曲的四分拍滑条间距，不打算overlap了。
SPOILER
SPOILER
SPOILER
当你遇到00:03:983 (2,3) - 这种乐曲明显停顿的，而且距离很长的，直接原地stack，不要放很远去。一样的，00:07:778 (3,4) - 唔有道理，不过排列已经很难动了……以后注意。
00:10:670 (3,4) - 要不不包，要包就包好好的，修了一下。
00:15:007 (1,2) - 告诉我你为什么这个和之前的00:03:441 (1,2) - 间距不一样嗯，全曲统一了。
00:16:453 (3,4) - stack，或者改成一个1/2反转滑条把中间那个音也压住这里中间那个音前面也不打算跟，就不改了吧。
00:22:410 (1,1) - 这种慢曲忌讳这种切flow，推荐这方面不是很懂……目前来看几种改法版面都怪怪的，先放着看看有没有人提。
SPOILER
SPOILER
SPOILER
00:28:924 (4) - 完全可以1/2 好几个人提过了，改了。
00:36:062 (2) - snap不上就别跟了。。你这要1/16才能压到...绿线也别乱用果然被吐槽了，改了，间距也统一了。
00:38:321 (1,2,3) - 从距离上根本分不出来snap 同上，统一了。
01:16:563 - 应该是1/6的snap 这个没听懂……开25%听了好多遍感觉是准的1/4。

感谢mod，帮助很大

Firika

Beatmap Nominator

278 posts

Joined January 2017

Firika 2017-06-08T14:45:01+00:00

Shad0w1and wrote:
[个人意见]
[oiso]
00:05:610 (2) - 一般建议选择stack到00:03:441 (1) - 这个我觉得往下走好一些，不改了
00:38:321 (1,3) - overlap难看 Fixed √
00:47:210 - 这一段都是跟风琴，调整红线之后想办法snap上
SPOILER
Fixed √
00:51:985 - 改成一个1/1
SPOILER
Fixed √
00:53:069 (1) - 1/2反转
Fixed √
00:55:961 (1) - 00:57:406 (3) - normal禁止，改
SPOILER
Fixed √
00:59:214 -
SPOILER
Fixed √
01:02:467 -
SPOILER
这个先不改了，这样感觉没啥问题
01:07:527 (1) - 禁止，自己改 Fixed √
01:19:093 (1) - 禁止 Fixed √
01:21:985 (1,3) - overlap难看
Fixed √
01:27:045 -
SPOILER
这个之间应该是有音，不改了
01:32:209 (3,4) - 减速也要保持目视间距统一
Fixed √
normal好很多，但是问题也太多，主要是切换音轨太突然，严格意义来说你这个diff的节奏复杂度是超纲的，属于hard的节奏难度放在超低bpm上，很多地方稍微考虑放弃铃声clap钢琴风琴其中之一就能让转折好很多

Thanks for your modding very much!

Karen

2,860 posts

Joined August 2013

Karen 2017-06-15T09:53:34+00:00

no kd

metadata哪里找的，我看这个artist的twitter是Takeshi Abo不知还有什么别的来源 https://twitter.com/valsound
Memories Off 6 ~T-wave~是source不用加tag
Instrumental是genre不用加tag
搞个combo color
弄个标准size的bg？

Oiso's Normal
tick rate 1
00:22:410 (2,1,2) - 这个不合适会误导新手还是按照ds来
00:31:093 (2) - 太弯了，跟00:32:538 (1) - 这个差不多比较好
00:39:767 - 怎么不跟这个，要跟00:28:201 (2) - 保持一致
00:45:216 (2,3,4) - 这里有变速，用圈太难了，换成滑条比较好
00:53:069 - 讲道理这里应该是长滑条吧，00:53:069 (1,2) - 这两个ctrl+g的节奏舒服一点
01:01:744 (1,3) - 这个遮挡不行，对于低难度来说太难
01:08:611 (5,6,7,8,9) - 连续5个圈有点多，换两个为滑条
01:19:816 (5) - 低难度最好避免钩钩滑条
01:29:575 (2,1) - 手动把间距调到跟前面一样
01:07:527 (4) - nc？
01:19:093 (4) - nc？

Orgel
00:43:757 - 红绿线音量要一样
00:10:670 (3) - 尾巴unsnap

Imouto koko

95 posts

Joined January 2016

Topic Starter

Imouto koko 2017-06-15T15:47:58+00:00

Karen wrote:
no kd

metadata哪里找的，我看这个artist的twitter是Takeshi Abo不知还有什么别的来源 https://twitter.com/valsound 找了个14年的秋2rank版https://osu.ppy.sh/s/142953看了一下artist是Abo Takeshi，那先不改了。Metadata request也发啦等check好惹。
Memories Off 6 ~T-wave~是source不用加tag 去掉了。
Instrumental是genre不用加tag 也去掉了。
搞个combo color 好啊。
弄个标准size的bg？弄好啦。

Orgel
00:43:757 - 红绿线音量要一样改了。
00:10:670 (3) - 尾巴unsnap 修好了。

感谢mod

考虑要不要做个皮肤，~~要是明天没收到Metadata request就正好做一个出来看看效果。~~咕了，做的皮肤感觉留到MO6OP比较好。

Last edited by Imouto koko 2017-06-17T04:51:07+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Firika

Beatmap Nominator

278 posts

Joined January 2017

Firika 2017-06-16T12:49:42+00:00

Karen wrote:
no kd

Oiso's Normal
tick rate 1
00:22:410 (2,1,2) - 这个不合适会误导新手还是按照ds来 改好了 √
00:31:093 (2) - 太弯了，跟00:32:538 (1) - 这个差不多比较好 改好了 √
00:39:767 - 怎么不跟这个，要跟00:28:201 (2) - 保持一致 改好了 √
00:45:216 (2,3,4) - 这里有变速，用圈太难了，换成滑条比较好 改好了 √
00:53:069 - 讲道理这里应该是长滑条吧，00:53:069 (1,2) - 这两个ctrl+g的节奏舒服一点 这个节奏应该没什么问题，换了之后转折有点体现不出来，感觉更别扭。。先不改了
01:01:744 (1,3) - 这个遮挡不行，对于低难度来说太难 改好了 √
01:08:611 (5,6,7,8,9) - 连续5个圈有点多，换两个为滑条 改好了 √
01:19:816 (5) - 低难度最好避免钩钩滑条 改好了 √
01:29:575 (2,1) - 手动把间距调到跟前面一样 改好了 √
01:07:527 (4) - nc？ 改好了 √
01:19:093 (4) - nc？ 改好了 √

非常感谢您的建议

Imouto koko

95 posts

Joined January 2016

Topic Starter

Imouto koko 2017-06-17T04:47:06+00:00

Karen wrote:
metadata哪里找的，我看这个artist的twitter是Takeshi Abo不知还有什么别的来源 https://twitter.com/valsound

IamKwaN wrote:
Unicode Title: Chloe-II -Perplexity-
Unicode Artist: 阿保剛
Romanised Artist: Takeshi Abo
Source: メモリーズオフ6 ～T-wave～

References:
http://media.vgm.io/albums/56/10665/106 ... 634437.jpg
http://media.vgm.io/albums/56/10665/106 ... 636207.jpg
http://memoriesoff.jp/t-wave/index.html
http://www.ac.auone-net.jp/~valsound/about.html

已经按照Metadata Request的回复改好

Karen

2,860 posts

Joined August 2013

Karen 2017-06-17T15:40:01+00:00

title有chloe就把tag里的去掉

Imouto koko

95 posts

Joined January 2016

Topic Starter

Imouto koko 2017-06-17T16:11:30+00:00

Karen wrote:
title有chloe就把tag里的去掉

去掉啦/.\

Karen

2,860 posts

Joined August 2013

Karen 2017-06-17T16:41:10+00:00

changed tick rate to 1 for both diffs and removed a slidertick hitsound, bubbled

papapa213

152 posts

Joined November 2014

papapa213 2017-06-17T16:51:15+00:00

我的妈啊，泡了，要肥了
妹妹带我啊Orz

Shima Rin

1,304 posts

Joined March 2015

Shima Rin 2017-06-19T15:35:03+00:00

这。。这么恐怖的

肝败吓疯

Imouto koko

95 posts

Joined January 2016

Topic Starter

Imouto koko 2017-06-19T17:45:53+00:00

Tofu1222 wrote:
这。。这么恐怖的

肝败吓疯

;w;
哪……哪里恐怖了……才没有！OuO

Kibbleru

osu! Alumni

5,844 posts

Joined August 2013

Kibbleru 2017-08-05T16:04:45+00:00

orgel
00:03:441 (1,2) - honestly these parts really tilt because it just makes the visual spacing look very inconsistent with everything else. i know the reason you do this is because of the 1/4 gap, but it just ends up looking like really inconsistent visual spacing. i can either suggest stacking or doing something like this.

SPOILER

ofc same for 00:06:333 (1,2) - 00:15:007 (1,2) - 00:41:212 (1,2) - etc...
00:13:562 (3,4,5,6,1) - most of the time you have a smooth linear motion like 00:01:995 (4,5,6,7,1) - 00:25:309 (3,4,5,6) - 00:36:876 (3,4,5,6) - etc. this is the only time you have a sharp angle in it. i know you probably did this because you run out of room, but it just ends up showing that you designed it badly. please fix this somehow or other.
00:43:020 - you shouldn't skip beats with extended sliders..
01:06:081 (5,1) - blanket?
01:11:141 (2) - should be 1/1 slider for consisntecy 00:59:575 (2) - also imo you shouldn't really use repeat sliders when there isnt really a sound on the repeat
01:13:310 (1) - please make this more symmetrical

SPOILER

01:21:985 (1) - expose tail more please :S
01:30:659 (1,2,3) - nicer looking arrangement?

SPOILER

01:52:730 (5,6) - why not blanket?

normal
00:03:441 (1) - perfectly horizontal sliders :S tilted

00:12:116 (1,2) - aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
01:33:009 (4) - actually just curious why do u always put an anchor point at the end lol
01:41:072 (2,3) - this is the only antijump stack you have in the map, as the lowest diff i wouldn't recommend it either

Firika

Beatmap Nominator

278 posts

Joined January 2017

Firika 2017-08-06T00:39:11+00:00

Kibbleru wrote:
normal
00:03:441 (1) - perfectly horizontal sliders :S tilted Fixed √
00:12:116 (1,2) - aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Fixed it and also Fixed 01:45:409 (1,2) √
01:33:009 (4) - actually just curious why do u always put an anchor point at the end lol just bad habit lol
01:41:072 (2,3) - this is the only antijump stack you have in the map, as the lowest diff i wouldn't recommend it either yeah,Fixed it now √

Thanks for your modding very much!

Oiso's Normal

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Imouto koko

95 posts

Joined January 2016

Topic Starter

Imouto koko 2017-08-06T01:45:48+00:00

Kibbleru wrote:
orgel
00:03:441 (1,2) - honestly these parts really tilt because it just makes the visual spacing look very inconsistent with everything else. i know the reason you do this is because of the 1/4 gap, but it just ends up looking like really inconsistent visual spacing. i can either suggest stacking or doing something like this.
SPOILER
ofc same for 00:06:333 (1,2) - 00:15:007 (1,2) - 00:41:212 (1,2) - etc...
00:13:562 (3,4,5,6,1) - most of the time you have a smooth linear motion like 00:01:995 (4,5,6,7,1) - 00:25:309 (3,4,5,6) - 00:36:876 (3,4,5,6) - etc. this is the only time you have a sharp angle in it. i know you probably did this because you run out of room, but it just ends up showing that you designed it badly. please fix this somehow or other.
00:43:020 - you shouldn't skip beats with extended sliders..
01:06:081 (5,1) - blanket?
01:11:141 (2) - should be 1/1 slider for consisntecy 00:59:575 (2) - also imo you shouldn't really use repeat sliders when there isnt really a sound on the repeat
01:13:310 (1) - please make this more symmetrical
SPOILER
01:21:985 (1) - expose tail more please :S
01:30:659 (1,2,3) - nicer looking arrangement?
SPOILER
01:52:730 (5,6) - why not blanket?

All fixed and adjusted the overlap of each 1/4 distance. Hope it is better

Thx a lot for very useful mod!

Mafumafu

Beatmap Nominator

3,367 posts

Joined August 2013

Mafumafu 2017-08-06T03:02:36+00:00

If Kibb nominates this map you can give me another map to mod, or to have a ticket from me that could be used whenever you want in the future.

Imouto koko

95 posts

Joined January 2016

Topic Starter

Imouto koko 2017-08-06T06:02:47+00:00

Regraz wrote:
If Kibb nominates this map you can give me another map to mod, or to have a ticket from me that could be used whenever you want in the future.

I am grateful to you for the ticket