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Kashima

Joined May 2014

Kashima 2017-06-01T10:28:18+00:00

2017-06-01 02:40 Kashima: 00:01:971 (4) - 跳的太大了 很突然 45换个位置 后面flow往下走
2017-06-01 02:41 Imouto OuO: 这个 就是要往上走的
2017-06-01 02:41 Imouto OuO: 故意的
2017-06-01 02:41 Imouto OuO: 还有 这跳不大了。。
2017-06-01 02:41 Imouto OuO: 83BPM的二分拍
2017-06-01 02:41 Imouto OuO: 因为节奏断开才这么下的 后面全是这样的
2017-06-01 02:41 Imouto OuO: 喔 是音调断开
2017-06-01 02:42 Kashima: 这个跳不是bpm大不大的问题 是相对于你其他的排列来说 这里的突变不至于用到这么远距离的跳 再说曲的音阶也是往下走的
2017-06-01 02:42 Kashima: 个人觉得往下比较猴
2017-06-01 02:43 Imouto OuO: 好 待会改往下的
2017-06-01 02:43 Imouto OuO: 但是跳我还是要留着
2017-06-01 02:43 Kashima: 00:20:917 (1,1) - 这俩滑条不好看
2017-06-01 02:43 Imouto OuO: 这俩是包着的
2017-06-01 02:43 Imouto OuO: 不这么下我不会拉了啊
2017-06-01 02:43 Kashima: 我知道是包着
2017-06-01 02:43 Kashima: .
2017-06-01 02:43 Kashima: 原来是不会拉
2017-06-01 02:44 Imouto OuO: 不然怎么拉 我不想换别的形状
2017-06-01 02:44 Imouto OuO: 三点的话这里包着比较配排列啊
2017-06-01 02:44 Imouto OuO: 还有哪有吐槽三点滑条不好看的。。
2017-06-01 02:45 Kashima: 是不好看..你这个弧度太过了 看起来就像一个圆角的长方形..
2017-06-01 02:46 Kashima: 给人感觉太扁了
2017-06-01 02:46 Kashima: 就2个滑条围成的区域太窄
2017-06-01 02:46 Kashima: 00:58:997 - 这里少个音
2017-06-01 02:46 Imouto OuO: 。。没听出来
2017-06-01 02:46 Imouto OuO: 我再听听

Firika

Beatmap Nominator

278 posts

Joined January 2017

Firika 2017-06-01T11:15:40+00:00

Pata-Mon wrote:
[Normal]
ar太高了，不要超过5，建议ar5od4或者ar4od3．hp跟着一起降，一般跟od一样就行 √ Finished
00:09:925 (2,3) - 微妙的擦边，要么就多碰点要么分开，现在这位置大概是最难看的 √ Finished
00:11:371 (4,1) - 这里还是用别那么弯的滑条比较好，直接往左走展开舒服．另外现在00:12:094 (1,2) - 这里ds不对，正好一起改了第一感觉让我往右下走了，移动感觉也挺舒服。后面ds改了
00:23:855 (1,2) - 改了od之后的话这里不建议stack，时间有点近没啥其他的地方想放，先不动了。
00:40:481 (2,1) - 同第一条．这里就放下面顺着的位置比较好，√ Finished
00:44:097 (1,2) - 这种视觉ds（这里就是滑条头到下一个note的距离）和实际ds严重不符，这样的排列不要在低难度用，容易误读其实是实际ds，视觉ds感觉好看点
01:54:392 (5) - 低难度拒绝这种东西．其实结尾01:51:147 (1,2,3,4,5) - 直接放转盘比较好，这难度还没转盘呢√ Finished
GL

顺便膜一下巴达兽

[Kamiya]

637 posts

Joined November 2012

[Kamiya] 2017-06-01T13:27:04+00:00

[Orgel]

00:03:419 (1,2) - 这里和00:06:311 (1,2) - 这里间距一致嘛，所以00:14:985 (1,2) - 这里也一样，间距再调近点。像这种的话就应该想想统一一下间距，包括后面，使用2.0~2.2的间距距离都行。

00:59:178 (2) - 这个地方尾没音效所以感觉稍微有点怪。或者将00:58:816 (1) - 这个单点删了改成1/2滑条后面改成1/1的滑条。删掉3

00:57:732 (4,5,6) - 这里既然选择是间距变大 01:20:864 (4,5,6) - 那这里应该也一样。

01:51:926 (6,7) - 没包好

随便水摸的lwl

gl

Imouto koko

95 posts

Joined January 2016

Topic Starter

Imouto koko 2017-06-01T13:51:13+00:00

[Kamiya] wrote:
[Orgel]

00:03:419 (1,2) - 这里和00:06:311 (1,2) - 这里间距一致嘛，所以00:14:985 (1,2) - 这里也一样，间距再调近点。像这种的话就应该想想统一一下间距，包括后面，使用2.0~2.2的间距距离都行。改啦。

00:59:178 (2) - 这个地方尾没音效所以感觉稍微有点怪。或者将00:58:816 (1) - 这个单点删了改成1/2滑条后面改成1/1的滑条。删掉3 好评好评，改啦。

00:57:732 (4,5,6) - 这里既然选择是间距变大 01:20:864 (4,5,6) - 那这里应该也一样。这里算是两种表现的方式吧，前者左右flow后者竖直向上。而且前面是第一次进入kiai，相对我觉得要区别对待一点，后面的kiai已经明显有向下降的趋势了。

01:51:926 (6,7) - 没包好改啦。

随便水摸的lwl
gl

感谢;w; 摸摸四萌（跑

Hidden me

30 posts

Joined February 2017

Hidden me 2017-06-01T14:36:25+00:00

Hello, Imouto OuO
I'm here to give mods as you requested

Contents: （中文）

[Oiso's Normal]1. AImod:
00:44:097 (1) - 这个物件的尾部没有对齐时间轴 -> 重新做一个
00:45:200 (2,3) - 距离过远（1.34x）
01:31:764 (2,3,4) - 距离过远（1.46x, 1.68x）-> 保持间距一致（相对于bpm）
*这里的距离都是相对于bpm而言的，在滑条速度固定的前提下，
相对距离相同，实际距离和bpm成正比（bpm以两个物件中的后者为准）

normal难度要严格遵守ds

2. My mods:
游玩下来感觉挺顺畅，节奏也没什么明显的问题，下面提出我发现的一些小问题：

00:01:250 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - 连续6个单点对于新手或许有难度 -> 可以考虑把其中几个换成滑条
00:12:094 (1) - 出界 -> 调整下滑条位置，注意ds
00:14:262 (3) - 出界 -> 调整圆圈位置，注意ds
*编辑器中的网格外沿长宽比为4:3，摆放物件不要超出这个界限即可，后面相同问题不再赘述...
00:44:097 (1,2) - 对于normal玩家容易读错 -> 想办法调整一下？
00:47:195 (1,2,3) - 多个物件等间距放在一起，新手玩家容易读错
*虽说排列美观重要，毕竟这是normal难度，降低读图难度也是很重要的（给新手留条活路吧）
或许可以在控制难度的前提下兼顾美观
00:55:925 (1,3) - 83bpm的1/4滑条，normal难度中不推荐折返超过一次，新手玩家反应不过来
01:01:708 (1,3) - 前者滑条尾和后者只相隔1拍，normal中不建议遮挡，有读图障碍
01:07:491 (1) - 不建议折返超过一次，后面相同问题不再多说
01:10:382 (1,2) - （续上）感觉摆成这样不错（虽说节奏重音不同，或许可以参考，个人意见）
01:34:522 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - 难度或许超过normal（和第一条相同）
01:51:926 (1) - 转盘中的滑条变速（inherited points里的slider velocity）意义不明（对于我，虽说不影响实际游玩）
*首尾呼应nice，首尾要改的话一起改（依旧是个人意见）

总体来说是一张nice map，细节处稍微注意下，还有难度控制下就更好了:D
Hope my mod helps~

[Orgel]00:28:924 (4) - 这个滑条尾可以放到前面那根二分线上，节奏和原曲吻合些，顺便把绿线提前（个人意见）
00:31:454 (3) - ctrl+g会更好？（读图上和感觉上都会更顺畅）
00:57:045 (2) - 这里音量可以降低一些吧（降到30%之类的），原曲节奏有些难以辨认
00:59:575 (2) - 这里有些出界，可以往里挪一些？（这样的话需要调整下flow）
01:14:394 (2,3,4) - 个人感觉排列有些奇怪，234原地三连就好（或者23换成短滑条？个人意见）
01:36:374 (7,1,2) - 时间间隔不同，间距一样容易读错，可以考虑把12往上移再调整下

比如这样？（我排列弱，轻喷）

只是个人意见...

总体感觉不错，本人能力有限，只能提供这些了↑
Hope it helps!

That's all I could help, and
Good luck!

Last edited by Hidden me 2017-06-02T09:33:51+00:00, edited 2 times in total.

Firika

Beatmap Nominator

278 posts

Joined January 2017

Firika 2017-06-01T14:45:22+00:00

刚又看了一遍，感觉好像问题不大，水一下：

Orgel

00:15:527 (2,3) - 其实像这种曲子感觉顺着滑条的弧度延展这摆可能要好看一些，离远一点吧，前面的1,2差1/4，后面是1/2，结果间距一样。
00:27:288 (2,3) - 同上，这个3就可以向下面移一点点，再顺着滑条。
00:53:395 (2,3) - 这个会不会和前面比有点突兀。可以考虑吧前面的1 移远一些（大概
00:57:009 (2,3) - 同上
01:42:473 (1,2,3,4) - 这四个滑条和曲子前面的四个滑条（00:09:202 (1,2,3,4) ）间距差不多可能会好一些，毕竟曲子旋律基本上是一样的。

曲子真好听~

papapa213

152 posts

Joined November 2014

papapa213 2017-06-01T14:53:10+00:00

萌新学摸
羡慕妹妹，要飞

[normal]
00:35:421 (1) - ctrl+G一下表现力可能会更强一点
00:41:204 (1,2,3,4) - 我觉得这四个音这样会好一些？一个弧感觉没办法突出这四个音，或者想想别的摆法

SPOILER

00:49:058 (3) - 位置有点怪？还不如往下放放flow还舒服，看着还宽敞
01:23:395 (4,1) - 套用某妹妹的话说……不如包一包？

[orgel]
00:18:608 (1,2,3) - 音量渐小这里间距突然变大了，感觉怪怪
00:57:732 (4,5,6,1) - @锐角萌，我觉得这样flow舒服些(

SPOILER

01:16:527 (2,3,4,5,6) - 不如摆成一个弧
01:30:625 (1) - 这里逆着拉表现力可能会更强一些

Imouto koko

95 posts

Joined January 2016

Topic Starter

Imouto koko 2017-06-01T15:21:57+00:00

papapa213 wrote:
萌新学摸
羡慕妹妹，要飞

[orgel]
00:18:608 (1,2,3) - 音量渐小这里间距突然变大了，感觉怪怪说得好，改了。
00:57:732 (4,5,6,1) - @锐角萌，我觉得这样flow舒服些( 用了flow，排列改了下。
SPOILER
01:16:527 (2,3,4,5,6) - 不如摆成一个弧好，改了。
01:30:625 (1) - 这里逆着拉表现力可能会更强一些想了想，虽然ctrl+g之后有点flow不顺，但是先改了。

感谢mod，你也加油;w;

Last edited by Imouto koko 2017-06-02T10:22:55+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Imouto koko

95 posts

Joined January 2016

Topic Starter

Imouto koko 2017-06-01T15:55:11+00:00

Oiso wrote:
刚又看了一遍，感觉好像问题不大，水一下：

Orgel
00:15:527 (2,3) - 其实像这种曲子感觉顺着滑条的弧度延展这摆可能要好看一些，离远一点吧，前面的1,2差1/4，后面是1/2，结果间距一样。是喔，我这边疏忽了，改了。
00:27:288 (2,3) - 同上，这个3就可以向下面移一点点，再顺着滑条。好，改了。
00:53:395 (2,3) - 这个会不会和前面比有点突兀。可以考虑吧前面的1 移远一些（大概这个没想法放哪里了……而且也符合实际ds，就这样吧。）
00:57:009 (2,3) - 同上也是没地方放。
01:42:473 (1,2,3,4) - 这四个滑条和曲子前面的四个滑条（00:09:202 (1,2,3,4) ）间距差不多可能会好一些，毕竟曲子旋律基本上是一样的。这个我再想想，这里排列的确有点僵。

曲子真好听~

感谢;w; 又送gd又送摸的

Last edited by Imouto koko 2017-06-02T10:23:30+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Karen

2,860 posts

Joined August 2013

Karen 2017-06-01T15:57:25+00:00

找点英文的 pending一星期再看吧

Firika

Beatmap Nominator

278 posts

Joined January 2017

Firika 2017-06-01T16:18:52+00:00

84461810 wrote:
Hello, Imouto OuO
I'm here to give mods as you requested

Contents: （中文）

Oiso's Normal
1. AImod:
00:44:097 (1) - 这个物件的尾部没有对齐时间轴 -> 重新做一个
00:45:200 (2,3) - 距离过远（1.34x）
01:31:764 (2,3,4) - 距离过远（1.46x, 1.68x）-> 保持间距一致（相对于bpm）
*这里的距离都是相对于bpm而言的，在滑条速度固定的前提下，
相对距离相同，实际距离和bpm成正比（bpm以两个物件中的后者为准）

normal难度要严格遵守ds

2. My mods:
游玩下来感觉挺顺畅，节奏也没什么明显的问题，下面提出我发现的一些小问题：

00:01:250 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - 连续6个单点对于新手或许有难度 -> 可以考虑把其中几个换成滑条
00:12:094 (1) - 出界 -> 调整下滑条位置，注意ds
00:14:262 (3) - 出界 -> 调整圆圈位置，注意ds
*编辑器中的网格外沿长宽比为4:3，摆放物件不要超出这个界限即可，后面相同问题不再赘述...
00:44:097 (1,2) - 对于normal玩家容易读错 -> 想办法调整一下？
00:47:195 (1,2,3) - 多个物件等间距放在一起，新手玩家容易读错
*虽说排列美观重要，毕竟这是normal难度，降低读图难度也是很重要的（给新手留条活路吧）
或许可以在控制难度的前提下兼顾美观
00:55:925 (1,3) - 83bpm的1/4滑条，normal难度中不推荐折返超过一次，新手玩家反应不过来
01:01:708 (1,3) - 前者滑条尾和后者只相隔1拍，normal中不建议遮挡，有读图障碍
01:07:491 (1) - 不建议折返超过一次，后面相同问题不再多说
01:10:382 (1,2) - （续上）感觉摆成这样不错（虽说节奏重音不同，或许可以参考，个人意见）
01:34:522 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - 难度或许超过normal（和第一条相同）
01:51:926 (1) - 转盘中的滑条变速（inherited points里的slider velocity）意义不明（对于我，虽说不影响实际游玩）
*首尾呼应nice，首尾要改的话一起改（依旧是个人意见）

总体来说是一张nice map，细节处稍微注意下，还有难度控制下就更好了:D
Hope my mod helps~

* The mod of the other diff is in progress

十分宝贵的建议，已经改好
All finished! Thanks for moding!
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papapa213 wrote:
[normal]
00:35:421 (1) - ctrl+G一下表现力可能会更强一点 按DS走了
00:41:204 (1,2,3,4) - 我觉得这四个音这样会好一些？一个弧感觉没办法突出这四个音，或者想想别的摆法 想过，但是你这样子我觉得也不太舒服，就不动了。
SPOILER
00:49:058 (3) - 位置有点怪？还不如往下放放flow还舒服，看着还宽敞 √ Finished
01:23:395 (4,1) - 套用某妹妹的话说……不如包一包？ 不包了吧，短粗

Thanks for moding!

Imouto koko

95 posts

Joined January 2016

Topic Starter

Imouto koko 2017-06-02T10:20:27+00:00

84461810 wrote:
[Orgel]00:28:924 (4) - 这个滑条尾可以放到前面那根二分线上，节奏和原曲吻合些，顺便把绿线提前（个人意见）试了一下，节奏区别不大，但是排列要重排，4、5离得太近了，没地方放了就先这样吧。
00:31:454 (3) - ctrl+g会更好？（读图上和感觉上都会更顺畅）算是个逆flow来顺后面的，上升了以便于后面下降的曲调。
00:57:045 (2) - 这里音量可以降低一些吧（降到30%之类的），原曲节奏有些难以辨认好，稍微修了一下。
00:59:575 (2) - 这里有些出界，可以往里挪一些？（这样的话需要调整下flow） x=0 算是故意顶边了。
01:14:394 (2,3,4) - 个人感觉排列有些奇怪，234原地三连就好（或者23换成短滑条？个人意见）这里是有点不那么顺，但是为了全曲四分拍统一还是不想改原地，短滑个人比较讨厌在低难度出现，之后看看有没有更好的选择吧。
01:36:374 (7,1,2) - 时间间隔不同，间距一样容易读错，可以考虑把12往上移再调整下有道理，不过放上面太挤了，换了一种摆法。
比如这样？（我排列弱，轻喷）

只是个人意见...

感谢mod 提的建议都很有用;w;

ikaNyai

75 posts

Joined September 2015

ikaNyai 2017-06-02T15:11:44+00:00

i go by how I feel is improveable when playing ;w; sorry!!
also please dont take it seriously , it just my small own opinion

from m4m

(´∩ω∩｀)click me

[Orgel]

00:31:454 (3) - i think is better to make it in to single note .. hmm
00:58:491 (6) - make it in to triangle shape with 00:57:768 (4,5) -
01:00:659 (3) - D: move it up abit its dropping out to atomsphere (<- if you did what i said then you should replace 01:00:659 (3,4,5) - maybe smth like * this ? also 01:02:828 (7) - )
01:03:551 (9) - 480143 n2.12 (<- if you did what i said ->01:04:635 (2) - move it bit down )
01:06:081 (5) - end toward 01:05:720 (4) -
01:09:334 (4) - alittle bit right (?445 350)
01:14:394 (2,3,4) - in to *this maybe ?
01:20:900 (4,5) - move a bit up (01:21:623 (6) - move it a bit right^ <- if you did what i said you should change following note too as you know(;w;)
01:29:937 (3) - maybe is better with 115 218 ?
01:42:518 (1) - end toward 01:42:156 (4) -
01:43:963 (3) - n1.34

nothing really need to change at all for me ... really goodjob( ﾟｰﾟ)( ｡ｗ｡)ｂ and goodluck !

Imouto koko

95 posts

Joined January 2016

Topic Starter

Imouto koko 2017-06-02T16:01:16+00:00

ikaNyai wrote:
(´∩ω∩｀)click me
[Orgel]

00:31:454 (3) - i think is better to make it in to single note .. hmm it has a drum at 00:31:815 - ,so i think silder here maybe better?
00:58:491 (6) - make it in to triangle shape with 00:57:768 (4,5) - the ds between 00:58:129 (5,6) - is bigger than 4,5. But still change the location of 00:58:491 (6) -
01:00:659 (3) - D: move it up abit its dropping out to atomsphere (<- if you did what i said then you should replace 01:00:659 (3,4,5) - maybe smth like * this ? also 01:02:828 (7) - ) following the music here maybe better?(the music here is going up
01:03:551 (9) - 480143 n2.12 (<- if you did what i said ->01:04:635 (2) - move it bit down ) fixed.
01:06:081 (5) - end toward 01:05:720 (4) - fixed.
01:09:334 (4) - alittle bit right (?445 350) it made by silder so i think it is ok
01:14:394 (2,3,4) - in to *this maybe ? umm...it is hard to fix the following notes so i need consider how to make a good flow.
01:20:900 (4,5) - move a bit up (01:21:623 (6) - move it a bit right^ <- if you did what i said you should change following note too as you know(;w;) it also made by silder, but still thanks for your care.
01:29:937 (3) - maybe is better with 115 218 ? move the 3,4 note.
01:42:518 (1) - end toward 01:42:156 (4) - fixed.
01:43:963 (3) - n1.34 fixed.
nothing really need to change at all for me ... really goodjob( ﾟｰﾟ)( ｡ｗ｡)ｂ and goodluck !

this mod is helpful! thanks for mod

Fushimi Rio

Fushimi Rio 2017-06-04T07:19:49+00:00

From request
[Orgel]
00:03:441 (1,2) - 00:03:441 (1,2) - it's not easy to read these pattern correctly in the beginning of the map. for latter parts like 00:26:755 (1,2) - this kind of pattern are easier to read because of song intensity. at least change this two to some regular spacing please
00:23:856 (2) - nc
00:36:062 - add a note here?
00:49:817 (5,1) - this is kind of too far, ctrl+g?
00:55:961 (1,2,3) - and too close
01:31:809 (2,3) - use jumps here is better than between 12 imo. move 2 to 1's blanket position?

[Normal]
00:57:406 (3,1) - too close
01:51:951 (1) - clap sounds better than whistle

Imouto koko

95 posts

Joined January 2016

Topic Starter

Imouto koko 2017-06-04T09:03:31+00:00

imoutosan wrote:
From request
[Orgel]
00:03:441 (1,2) - 00:03:441 (1,2) - it's not easy to read these pattern correctly in the beginning of the map. for latter parts like 00:26:755 (1,2) - this kind of pattern are easier to read because of song intensity. at least change this two to some regular spacing please fixed.
00:23:856 (2) - nc fixed.
00:36:062 - add a note here? hmm..maybe it is harder than other pattern but, just try first. XD
00:49:817 (5,1) - this is kind of too far, ctrl+g? fixed.
00:55:961 (1,2,3) - and too close chanced the distance.
01:31:809 (2,3) - use jumps here is better than between 12 imo. move 2 to 1's blanket position? move the 1 to make the jump between 2,3.

very helpful! thanks for modding.

Firika

Beatmap Nominator

278 posts

Joined January 2017

Firika 2017-06-04T15:56:06+00:00

imoutosan wrote:
From request

[Normal]
00:57:406 (3,1) - too close FIXED √
01:51:951 (1) - clap sounds better than whistle FIXED √

Thanks for your modding very much!

Shad0w1and

1,588 posts

Joined April 2011

Shad0w1and 2017-06-07T20:17:29+00:00

[个人意见]
00:26:755 - 起downbeat（大白线
个人认为如果是新麻婆，在排列能力没有过关的情况下，CS越大越好，可以方便排版和进行基础练习，特别是这种低难度曲子。
其次，就个人而言，并不喜欢物件一路横冲直撞从左边屏幕横跨到右边，00:01:272 (2,3,4,5,6,7) -
然后对于overlap的问题，00:03:441 (1,2) - 00:06:333 (1,2) - 这种我感觉试很丑，而个人审美倾向于

SPOILER

当你遇到00:03:983 (2,3) - 这种乐曲明显停顿的，而且距离很长的，直接原地stack，不要放很远去。一样的，00:07:778 (3,4) -
00:10:670 (3,4) - 要不不包，要包就包好
00:15:007 (1,2) - 告诉我你为什么这个和之前的00:03:441 (1,2) - 间距不一样
00:16:453 (3,4) - stack，或者改成一个1/2反转滑条把中间那个音也压住
00:22:410 (1,1) - 这种慢曲忌讳这种切flow，推荐

SPOILER

00:28:924 (4) - 完全可以1/2
00:36:062 (2) - snap不上就别跟了。。你这要1/16才能压到...绿线也别乱用
00:38:321 (1,2,3) - 从距离上根本分不出来snap
01:16:563 - 应该是1/6的snap
整体问题太大，曲子也感觉不适合作图，硬要做图对麻婆的基本功也要求太高，最好放个一年等有经验再说。

[oiso]
00:05:610 (2) - 一般建议选择stack到00:03:441 (1) -
00:38:321 (1,3) - overlap难看
00:47:210 - 这一段都是跟风琴，调整红线之后想办法snap上

SPOILER

00:51:985 - 改成一个1/1

SPOILER

00:53:069 (1) - 1/2反转
00:55:961 (1) - 00:57:406 (3) - normal禁止，改

SPOILER

00:59:214 -

SPOILER

01:02:467 -

SPOILER

01:07:527 (1) - 禁止，自己改
01:19:093 (1) - 禁止
01:21:985 (1,3) - overlap难看
01:27:045 -

SPOILER

01:32:209 (3,4) - 减速也要保持目视间距统一
normal好很多，但是问题也太多，主要是切换音轨太突然，严格意义来说你这个diff的节奏复杂度是超纲的，属于hard的节奏难度放在超低bpm上，很多地方稍微考虑放弃铃声clap钢琴风琴其中之一就能让转折好很多

Imouto koko

95 posts

Joined January 2016

Topic Starter

Imouto koko 2017-06-08T03:58:30+00:00

Shad0w1and wrote:
[个人意见]
00:26:755 - 起downbeat（大白线发现了，改timing的时候忘加了，补了。
个人认为如果是新麻婆，在排列能力没有过关的情况下，CS越大越好，可以方便排版和进行基础练习，特别是这种低难度曲子。
其次，就个人而言，并不喜欢物件一路横冲直撞从左边屏幕横跨到右边，00:01:272 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - 这里也没太好的想法，感觉曲风适合这样，个人理解吧orz
然后对于overlap的问题，00:03:441 (1,2) - 00:06:333 (1,2) - 这种我感觉试很丑，而个人审美倾向于想了想统一了一下全曲的四分拍滑条间距，不打算overlap了。
SPOILER
SPOILER
SPOILER
当你遇到00:03:983 (2,3) - 这种乐曲明显停顿的，而且距离很长的，直接原地stack，不要放很远去。一样的，00:07:778 (3,4) - 唔有道理，不过排列已经很难动了……以后注意。
00:10:670 (3,4) - 要不不包，要包就包好好的，修了一下。
00:15:007 (1,2) - 告诉我你为什么这个和之前的00:03:441 (1,2) - 间距不一样嗯，全曲统一了。
00:16:453 (3,4) - stack，或者改成一个1/2反转滑条把中间那个音也压住这里中间那个音前面也不打算跟，就不改了吧。
00:22:410 (1,1) - 这种慢曲忌讳这种切flow，推荐这方面不是很懂……目前来看几种改法版面都怪怪的，先放着看看有没有人提。
SPOILER
SPOILER
SPOILER
00:28:924 (4) - 完全可以1/2 好几个人提过了，改了。
00:36:062 (2) - snap不上就别跟了。。你这要1/16才能压到...绿线也别乱用果然被吐槽了，改了，间距也统一了。
00:38:321 (1,2,3) - 从距离上根本分不出来snap 同上，统一了。
01:16:563 - 应该是1/6的snap 这个没听懂……开25%听了好多遍感觉是准的1/4。

感谢mod，帮助很大

Firika

Beatmap Nominator

278 posts

Joined January 2017

Firika 2017-06-08T14:45:01+00:00

Shad0w1and wrote:
[个人意见]
[oiso]
00:05:610 (2) - 一般建议选择stack到00:03:441 (1) - 这个我觉得往下走好一些，不改了
00:38:321 (1,3) - overlap难看 Fixed √
00:47:210 - 这一段都是跟风琴，调整红线之后想办法snap上
SPOILER
Fixed √
00:51:985 - 改成一个1/1
SPOILER
Fixed √
00:53:069 (1) - 1/2反转
Fixed √
00:55:961 (1) - 00:57:406 (3) - normal禁止，改
SPOILER
Fixed √
00:59:214 -
SPOILER
Fixed √
01:02:467 -
SPOILER
这个先不改了，这样感觉没啥问题
01:07:527 (1) - 禁止，自己改 Fixed √
01:19:093 (1) - 禁止 Fixed √
01:21:985 (1,3) - overlap难看
Fixed √
01:27:045 -
SPOILER
这个之间应该是有音，不改了
01:32:209 (3,4) - 减速也要保持目视间距统一
Fixed √
normal好很多，但是问题也太多，主要是切换音轨太突然，严格意义来说你这个diff的节奏复杂度是超纲的，属于hard的节奏难度放在超低bpm上，很多地方稍微考虑放弃铃声clap钢琴风琴其中之一就能让转折好很多

Thanks for your modding very much!

Karen

2,860 posts

Joined August 2013

Karen 2017-06-15T09:53:34+00:00

no kd

metadata哪里找的，我看这个artist的twitter是Takeshi Abo不知还有什么别的来源 https://twitter.com/valsound
Memories Off 6 ~T-wave~是source不用加tag
Instrumental是genre不用加tag
搞个combo color
弄个标准size的bg？

Oiso's Normal
tick rate 1
00:22:410 (2,1,2) - 这个不合适会误导新手还是按照ds来
00:31:093 (2) - 太弯了，跟00:32:538 (1) - 这个差不多比较好
00:39:767 - 怎么不跟这个，要跟00:28:201 (2) - 保持一致
00:45:216 (2,3,4) - 这里有变速，用圈太难了，换成滑条比较好
00:53:069 - 讲道理这里应该是长滑条吧，00:53:069 (1,2) - 这两个ctrl+g的节奏舒服一点
01:01:744 (1,3) - 这个遮挡不行，对于低难度来说太难
01:08:611 (5,6,7,8,9) - 连续5个圈有点多，换两个为滑条
01:19:816 (5) - 低难度最好避免钩钩滑条
01:29:575 (2,1) - 手动把间距调到跟前面一样
01:07:527 (4) - nc？
01:19:093 (4) - nc？

Orgel
00:43:757 - 红绿线音量要一样
00:10:670 (3) - 尾巴unsnap

Imouto koko

95 posts

Joined January 2016

Topic Starter

Imouto koko 2017-06-15T15:47:58+00:00

Karen wrote:
no kd

metadata哪里找的，我看这个artist的twitter是Takeshi Abo不知还有什么别的来源 https://twitter.com/valsound 找了个14年的秋2rank版https://osu.ppy.sh/s/142953看了一下artist是Abo Takeshi，那先不改了。Metadata request也发啦等check好惹。
Memories Off 6 ~T-wave~是source不用加tag 去掉了。
Instrumental是genre不用加tag 也去掉了。
搞个combo color 好啊。
弄个标准size的bg？弄好啦。

Orgel
00:43:757 - 红绿线音量要一样改了。
00:10:670 (3) - 尾巴unsnap 修好了。

感谢mod

考虑要不要做个皮肤，~~要是明天没收到Metadata request就正好做一个出来看看效果。~~咕了，做的皮肤感觉留到MO6OP比较好。

Last edited by Imouto koko 2017-06-17T04:51:07+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Firika

Beatmap Nominator

278 posts

Joined January 2017

Firika 2017-06-16T12:49:42+00:00

Karen wrote:
no kd

Oiso's Normal
tick rate 1
00:22:410 (2,1,2) - 这个不合适会误导新手还是按照ds来 改好了 √
00:31:093 (2) - 太弯了，跟00:32:538 (1) - 这个差不多比较好 改好了 √
00:39:767 - 怎么不跟这个，要跟00:28:201 (2) - 保持一致 改好了 √
00:45:216 (2,3,4) - 这里有变速，用圈太难了，换成滑条比较好 改好了 √
00:53:069 - 讲道理这里应该是长滑条吧，00:53:069 (1,2) - 这两个ctrl+g的节奏舒服一点 这个节奏应该没什么问题，换了之后转折有点体现不出来，感觉更别扭。。先不改了
01:01:744 (1,3) - 这个遮挡不行，对于低难度来说太难 改好了 √
01:08:611 (5,6,7,8,9) - 连续5个圈有点多，换两个为滑条 改好了 √
01:19:816 (5) - 低难度最好避免钩钩滑条 改好了 √
01:29:575 (2,1) - 手动把间距调到跟前面一样 改好了 √
01:07:527 (4) - nc？ 改好了 √
01:19:093 (4) - nc？ 改好了 √

非常感谢您的建议

Imouto koko

95 posts

Joined January 2016

Topic Starter

Imouto koko 2017-06-17T04:47:06+00:00

Karen wrote:
metadata哪里找的，我看这个artist的twitter是Takeshi Abo不知还有什么别的来源 https://twitter.com/valsound

IamKwaN wrote:
Unicode Title: Chloe-II -Perplexity-
Unicode Artist: 阿保剛
Romanised Artist: Takeshi Abo
Source: メモリーズオフ6 ～T-wave～

References:
http://media.vgm.io/albums/56/10665/106 ... 634437.jpg
http://media.vgm.io/albums/56/10665/106 ... 636207.jpg
http://memoriesoff.jp/t-wave/index.html
http://www.ac.auone-net.jp/~valsound/about.html

已经按照Metadata Request的回复改好

Karen

2,860 posts

Joined August 2013

Karen 2017-06-17T15:40:01+00:00

title有chloe就把tag里的去掉

Imouto koko

95 posts

Joined January 2016

Topic Starter

Imouto koko 2017-06-17T16:11:30+00:00

Karen wrote:
title有chloe就把tag里的去掉

去掉啦/.\

Karen

2,860 posts

Joined August 2013

Karen 2017-06-17T16:41:10+00:00

changed tick rate to 1 for both diffs and removed a slidertick hitsound, bubbled

papapa213

152 posts

Joined November 2014

papapa213 2017-06-17T16:51:15+00:00

我的妈啊，泡了，要肥了
妹妹带我啊Orz

Shima Rin

1,304 posts

Joined March 2015

Shima Rin 2017-06-19T15:35:03+00:00

这。。这么恐怖的

肝败吓疯

Imouto koko

95 posts

Joined January 2016

Topic Starter

Imouto koko 2017-06-19T17:45:53+00:00

Tofu1222 wrote:
这。。这么恐怖的

肝败吓疯

;w;
哪……哪里恐怖了……才没有！OuO

Kibbleru

osu! Alumni

5,844 posts

Joined August 2013

Kibbleru 2017-08-05T16:04:45+00:00

orgel
00:03:441 (1,2) - honestly these parts really tilt because it just makes the visual spacing look very inconsistent with everything else. i know the reason you do this is because of the 1/4 gap, but it just ends up looking like really inconsistent visual spacing. i can either suggest stacking or doing something like this.

SPOILER

ofc same for 00:06:333 (1,2) - 00:15:007 (1,2) - 00:41:212 (1,2) - etc...
00:13:562 (3,4,5,6,1) - most of the time you have a smooth linear motion like 00:01:995 (4,5,6,7,1) - 00:25:309 (3,4,5,6) - 00:36:876 (3,4,5,6) - etc. this is the only time you have a sharp angle in it. i know you probably did this because you run out of room, but it just ends up showing that you designed it badly. please fix this somehow or other.
00:43:020 - you shouldn't skip beats with extended sliders..
01:06:081 (5,1) - blanket?
01:11:141 (2) - should be 1/1 slider for consisntecy 00:59:575 (2) - also imo you shouldn't really use repeat sliders when there isnt really a sound on the repeat
01:13:310 (1) - please make this more symmetrical

SPOILER

01:21:985 (1) - expose tail more please :S
01:30:659 (1,2,3) - nicer looking arrangement?

SPOILER

01:52:730 (5,6) - why not blanket?

normal
00:03:441 (1) - perfectly horizontal sliders :S tilted

00:12:116 (1,2) - aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
01:33:009 (4) - actually just curious why do u always put an anchor point at the end lol
01:41:072 (2,3) - this is the only antijump stack you have in the map, as the lowest diff i wouldn't recommend it either

Firika

Beatmap Nominator

278 posts

Joined January 2017

Firika 2017-08-06T00:39:11+00:00

Kibbleru wrote:
normal
00:03:441 (1) - perfectly horizontal sliders :S tilted Fixed √
00:12:116 (1,2) - aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Fixed it and also Fixed 01:45:409 (1,2) √
01:33:009 (4) - actually just curious why do u always put an anchor point at the end lol just bad habit lol
01:41:072 (2,3) - this is the only antijump stack you have in the map, as the lowest diff i wouldn't recommend it either yeah,Fixed it now √

Thanks for your modding very much!

Oiso's Normal

osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: Chloe-II -Perplexity-.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 550
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.4
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 1

[Editor]
DistanceSpacing: 1.2
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 1

[Metadata]
Title:Chloe-II -Perplexity-
TitleUnicode:Chloe-II -Perplexity-
Artist:Takeshi Abo
ArtistUnicode:阿保 剛
Creator:Imouto OuO
Version:Oiso's Normal
Source:メモリーズオフ6 ～T-wave～
Tags:嘉神川 クロエ Kagamigawa Kuroe 後藤 邑子 Gotou Yuuko Memories Off 6 Oiso 5pb original soundtrack ost visual novel galgame avg
BeatmapID:1308974
BeatmapSetID:620634

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:3
CircleSize:3
OverallDifficulty:3
ApproachRate:4
SliderMultiplier:1.4
SliderTickRate:1

[Events]
//Background and Video events
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//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
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Imouto koko

95 posts

Joined January 2016

Topic Starter

Imouto koko 2017-08-06T01:45:48+00:00

Kibbleru wrote:
orgel
00:03:441 (1,2) - honestly these parts really tilt because it just makes the visual spacing look very inconsistent with everything else. i know the reason you do this is because of the 1/4 gap, but it just ends up looking like really inconsistent visual spacing. i can either suggest stacking or doing something like this.
SPOILER
ofc same for 00:06:333 (1,2) - 00:15:007 (1,2) - 00:41:212 (1,2) - etc...
00:13:562 (3,4,5,6,1) - most of the time you have a smooth linear motion like 00:01:995 (4,5,6,7,1) - 00:25:309 (3,4,5,6) - 00:36:876 (3,4,5,6) - etc. this is the only time you have a sharp angle in it. i know you probably did this because you run out of room, but it just ends up showing that you designed it badly. please fix this somehow or other.
00:43:020 - you shouldn't skip beats with extended sliders..
01:06:081 (5,1) - blanket?
01:11:141 (2) - should be 1/1 slider for consisntecy 00:59:575 (2) - also imo you shouldn't really use repeat sliders when there isnt really a sound on the repeat
01:13:310 (1) - please make this more symmetrical
SPOILER
01:21:985 (1) - expose tail more please :S
01:30:659 (1,2,3) - nicer looking arrangement?
SPOILER
01:52:730 (5,6) - why not blanket?

All fixed and adjusted the overlap of each 1/4 distance. Hope it is better

Thx a lot for very useful mod!

Mafumafu

Beatmap Nominator

3,367 posts

Joined August 2013

Mafumafu 2017-08-06T03:02:36+00:00

If Kibb nominates this map you can give me another map to mod, or to have a ticket from me that could be used whenever you want in the future.

Imouto koko

95 posts

Joined January 2016

Topic Starter

Imouto koko 2017-08-06T06:02:47+00:00

Regraz wrote:
If Kibb nominates this map you can give me another map to mod, or to have a ticket from me that could be used whenever you want in the future.

I am grateful to you for the ticket

Karen

2,860 posts

Joined August 2013

Karen 2017-08-06T08:11:31+00:00

kibb mvp

Kibbleru

osu! Alumni

5,844 posts

Joined August 2013

Kibbleru 2017-08-06T11:10:55+00:00

its been bubbled for long enough!