salchow wrote:

Not quite a mod you expected, but very importaint.

you probobly didn't expect this sort mod (technicaly this isn't a mod), but this map is just plain boring (copy paste) and The spacing is to tight! Be creative! Dont be afraid to make some triangles or jumps. There isn't really mistakes in this map, its just the whole map is a mistake. It lacks Visuals and estetics. The intencity is just almost the same form beginning and to the end. There is no mistakes, but it's boring. If you're trying to get this ranked QAT will detroy it, but I am honest here. But don't give up. Mapping takes ALOT of time to master.

Well, this is what I was worried about. I tried changing style to map this, using slow and repetitive pattern. I'll try to fix that.

Actual mod

01:09:389 (8,9) - Better if there was a bigger gap between these 3 circles ( make a triangle).

01:13:764 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - this part feels very akward. Delete the circles on the red ticks, and make bigger distances between the cricles (you can also use sliders), becouse the intensity builds up.

01:18:764 (9) - New combo

01:19:389 (10) - New combo

02:00:848 (2,3,4) - Very bad flow! Do something like this 02:00:848 (2) - x:140 y:168 02:01:055 (3) - x:169 y:296 02:01:264 (4) - x:256 y:80

02:01:029 (3) - THIS CIRCLE IS NOT SNAPED. use 1/6 metronome

02:08:452 (3,4,5) - lacks of distance snaping and estetics.

02:10:014 (6) - New combo

02:10:014 (6,7,8) - lacks of distance snaping and estetics.

02:13:139 (3,4,5) - lacks of distance snaping and estetics.

02:15:013 (7,8,9) - lacks of distance snaping and estetics.

02:15:013 (7) - New combo

02:29:389 (8) - New combo

02:39:389 (7) - New combo

02:45:639 (2,3,1) - Need bigger gap.

02:50:639 (2,3,1) - Need bigger gap.

02:55:639 (2,3,1) - Need bigger gap.

Rest is kinda ok.

-Ploy- wrote:

Hi, from my queue!

There are links with pictures in words "this" so don't miss it. Got a style that make links glow, but thank!

Dream

00:21:250 (1,2,3) - Even through it's realy slow part,
It would look much better if (2) leans better on (1) and same for (3) on (2) fixed, looks better
00:58:750 (1) - ^ same for this one fixed, looks better
01:24:375 (1,2,3,4) - This doesn't fit flow much, try to place them some better,
maybe like this, It definitely feels better. fixed
01:32:500 - You missed note here, right after (5) there is a strong sound you should map. fixed
04:20:937 - You missed note here. fixed
02:23:437 (1) - Remove NC here and place it 02:24:375 (4) there instead. I NC on all other triplets, fine imo
02:38:750 (1) - put NC here. woops
03:23:750 (1,2,3,4) - It's Kai. Give it some more spacing with better flow. fixed
03:31:875 (4) - Maybe rotate this slider's Selection Centre by 45° (using Ctrl+Shift+R) and move (5) (6) down like this. changed the pattern in a way to make this slider blanket so no
03:52:343 (5,6) - Move these a little bit down and left for better flow. fixed
04:18:750 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - At this part put NC's only at 04:18:750 (1,2) these two circles. fixed
04:20:937 - Missed note here again. hmmmm... you pointed out the same one?



One mistake you made multiple times.
01:56:250 (1) - Instead of this slider there should be finishing circle and at the point, where your slider ends just put small slider as a NC note. It fits rhythm much more and better. Becouse ending point of that slider you made is always sound that starts notes after it.
Do it like this. ↓

01:26:250 (1) - ^same
01:36:250 (1) - ^same
01:46:250 (1) - ^same
03:26:250 (1) - ^same
03:36:250 (1) - ^same
03:46:250 (1) - ^same
03:56:250 (1) - ^same
Sliders you put in these points are out of rhythm and It will be much better if you remake it as i showed you up there.
This pattern emphasize the sound effect, and because all other instruments stop during this sound I make the slider slow.
I don't think it's that much of a problem if the slider ends on an important sound like this. So no, I don't really want to change this

Overall: I like that song, so i hope you keep continue to mod this map as possible. Good luck! Thanks!

Crypthesis wrote:

Hi!

From my modding queue:

nice song btw.

Unsnapped objects

01:18:854 - Circle
01:19:270 - Circle
01:19:479 - Circle
01:19:895 - Circle
02:01:289 - Spinner start

they're all snapped to either 1/6 or 1/16 (spinner is snapped to 1/16 to make the spinner start instantly after clicking the object)

Dream

4:57 isn't enough. You'll need to extend your spinnner by 3 seconds. fixed. what a pain, this rule is garbage.

You didn't use these hitsounds:

drum-hitnormalh.wav
normal-sliderslide.wav

If you're not using them, you might want to delete them. fixed

00:19:375 (1) - Less curve for a nicer blanket? fixed

00:25:000 (4,5) - Blanket that sliderend? fixed

00:53:125 (3,4) - Here, you changed the direction of the flow, but there was nothing to emphasize. I would put 4 on the left side of 3. fixed

01:09:375 (3) - Use the same slider. fixed

01:12:812 (4,5) - Nicer blanket? fixed

01:22:343 (5,6) - Place this below sliderend? fixed

01:23:750 (4) - Use DS since there's really nothing to emphasize. fixed

02:28:750 (8) - NC? fixed

02:38:750 (8) - ^ fixed

03:58:125 (4,1) - Not stacked properly. fixed

04:10:937 (2) - I'd make this a 1/8 repeating slider. nah, sounds bad

Nice map thanks!

1. 00:17:812 (2,1) - This blanket is really ugly. I'd try something like this?
2. 00:50:625 (2) - I would make this 2 circles because of the strong bass drum hits.
3. 01:20:312 (2,5,1) - This spacing is really confusing because they're the same spacing yet they're completely different spaces on the timeline. In addition, I would make 01:21:250 (1) - a jump because its a really strong note (with a Crash Cymbal)
4. 01:41:041 - There's no note here. The Floor tom (Drum) sound is actually on 01:40:937 - this note. Because the rhythm would be super awkward, I would just make this another slider 01:40:833 -
5. 01:50:859 (2,3) - Not sure what these are snapped to. Unlike 01:40:937, the floor toms are actually on the triplet. (1/3 snapping)
6. 03:20:937 - I would map this note... It's a pretty strong Floor Tom.
7. 03:24:375 (4,5,6,1) - Flow like this is actually kinda poor, but it works because its low bpm.
8. 03:47:500 (3) - This slider is pretty ugly... I'd try something like this.
9. 04:00:833 (2,3) - Same thing as 01:40:937.
10. 04:06:093 - I'd map this note, its a really strong snare sound.
11. Same thing happens 04:11:093 - here 04:16:093 - here and 04:17:343 - here.
12. 04:17:500 (1,2,3,4) - This should actually be a stream snapped to 1/6 like 01:18:750 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) -
13. 04:18:984 (1,2,3,4,5) - Again, these should be snapped to 1/3.
14. There's a lot of potential in this map. I focused mostly on rhythm because a good rhythm is imperative for a good map.
    The largest problem I have with this map is the structure, its kinda... not there?
    
    01:48:750 (1,1,1,1,1) - Stuff like this is really cool, and its a cool concept. However, although patterns do have a shape, such as this, 03:23:750 (1,2,3,4) - the next pattern has almost no relation to 03:25:312 (1,2,3) - even though 03:25:312 (1,2,3) - is a triangle.
    Thisis just what I would do, See how 03:25:625 (2) - would be blanketed and 03:25:000 (6,1,3) - has a shape? Kinda like connecting patterns together? This is what I mean by structure.
    
    Good luck!

Sharkie wrote:

[Dream]

1. 00:17:812 (2,1) - This blanket is really ugly. I'd try something like this? fixed
2. 00:50:625 (2) - I would make this 2 circles because of the strong bass drum hits. fixed
3. 01:20:312 (2,5,1) - This spacing is really confusing because they're the same spacing yet they're completely different spaces on the timeline. In addition, I would make 01:21:250 (1) - a jump because its a really strong note (with a Crash Cymbal) fixed
4. 01:41:041 - There's no note here. The Floor tom (Drum) sound is actually on 01:40:937 - this note. Because the rhythm would be super awkward, I would just make this another slider 01:40:833 - I'm just keeping the 1/3 here, even the sliders are not fully on rythm it's just filling rythm that fits well
5. 01:50:859 (2,3) - Not sure what these are snapped to. Unlike 01:40:937, the floor toms are actually on the triplet. (1/3 snapping) f**dskfjisjf autoresnapping i did because of timing issues, it resnapped every 1/3 to 1/8 and I forgot to resnap this one
6. 03:20:937 - I would map this note... It's a pretty strong Floor Tom. mmmmmh would be cool but it's 3.5* diff so no
7. 03:24:375 (4,5,6,1) - Flow like this is actually kinda poor, but it works because its low bpm. what did you expect, there's no real massive change to emphasize XD
8. 03:47:500 (3) - This slider is pretty ugly... I'd try something like this. fixed
9. 04:00:833 (2,3) - Same thing as 01:40:937.
10. 04:06:093 - I'd map this note, its a really strong snare sound. again to simplify i won't map it even though I want to
11. Same thing happens 04:11:093 - here 04:16:093 - here and 04:17:343 - here.
12. 04:17:500 (1,2,3,4) - This should actually be a stream snapped to 1/6 like 01:18:750 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - I don't want to make the player combo break at the end, it just the worst thing ever on 5 min maps
13. 04:18:984 (1,2,3,4,5) - Again, these should be snapped to 1/3. fixed
14. There's a lot of potential in this map. I focused mostly on rhythm because a good rhythm is imperative for a good map. thanks and yes I know
    The largest problem I have with this map is the structure, its kinda... not there? i'm bad at structuring
    
    01:48:750 (1,1,1,1,1) - Stuff like this is really cool, and its a cool concept. However, although patterns do have a shape, such as this, 03:23:750 (1,2,3,4) - the next pattern has almost no relation to 03:25:312 (1,2,3) - even though 03:25:312 (1,2,3) - is a triangle.
    Thisis just what I would do, See how 03:25:625 (2) - would be blanketed and 03:25:000 (6,1,3) - has a shape? Kinda like connecting patterns together? This is what I mean by structure.
    
    I map how i'm feeling it. No theorical things or too complicated, just how I feel it.
    
    Good luck!

QuiescentRabbit wrote:

I'm sorry if I don't find much, or if I repeat what others said, I can only read in english

Dream

Love this song!

01:18:750 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - This 12 note stream breaks the hard ranking criteria. It needs to be replaced with repeating sliders or something else, the max stream size in hard difficulties is 5 notes. fixed it with repeating sliders. there's no real rule but yeah i was planning to replace it anyway

02:23:437 (1) - No sound plays here. filler rythm + pattern going on

02:25:937 (1) - ^

02:28:437 (6) - ^ This is getting repetitive, take a look at your stacks and make sure they actually land on sounds. You can't have a stack there just because you feel like it. you can if it has a meaning pattern wise

02:41:875 (4,1) - I don't know the technical terms for this, but this section has 2 notes that sound different and alternate over and over, but you represent them both with equal spacing and the same slider shape, so it doesn't have any variety where as the song does. well music term would be "tick clap" for this kind of rythm and also they don't really have to be emphasized because the pattern musically and on my beatmap is the same

03:28:750 (1,1,1,1,1) - This pattern looks really cool, but it feels undermapped. Two different sounds alternate rapidly here but you have these quite slow sliders that are all the same shape. This goes for all of "these" 03:38:750 (1,1,1,1,1) - I love this pattern, but changed 03:38:750 (1,1,1,1,1) - because here I undermapped too much. Others are fine.

To be honest, this is a pretty short mod so it's alright if you don't want to fulfill the m4m request, but I'd appreciate it <3

I love modding so no problem, you helped

Maxylan wrote:

Your M4M~

Modding time

00:19:375 (1,2) - Fix the blanket, also cool sliderarts bro. fixed (also I don't think i'm a sliderart pro, but thanks! )
01:10:937 (2,1) - Would add a little distance here, because the sound is so different. fixed
01:23:125 (2,4) - Played these back with 25% speed and sounds like offset is off by around -2ms or -4ms fixed
01:58:125 (4) - NC Or replace with Slider? nah
02:13:125 (3,4) - Would replace these with a slider, or make the previous slider longer to cover this, or have nothing there at all. nah
02:13:125 (3,4) - Overlap. fixed
Sidenote: Consider adding "Marathon" to your songs tags. fixed
02:55:625 (2) - Blanket? fixed
03:28:125 (4,1) - Overlap again. fixed
03:46:250 (1) - 03:56:250 (1) - I think it's a shame nothing is on the white tick here. i've been using this pattern the whole song so nah
04:31:250 (2,1) - Almost overlap, still aesthetically could look better fixed.

Nice map and nice song man! Couldn't find much (maybe it's quz it has 30+ SP >.<) but hope this helps! It did!

Arphimigon wrote:

Lab Aesthetics Mod!

Results given in [x, y] formats

[Dream]
Object at 00:57:506 - should be placed at: [192, 230] currently at: [196, 232] to blanket slider body at time 00:57:818 -
Object at 02:30:943 - should be placed at: [343, 51] currently at: [344, 52] to move in line with slider at time 02:31:256 -
Object at 02:31:099 - should be placed at: [343, 51] currently at: [344, 52] to move in line with slider at time 02:31:256 -
Object at 04:05:943 - should be placed at: [253, 165] currently at: [256, 164] to blanket slider body at time 04:06:568 -

I hope I didn't malfunction!

Frey wrote:

From m4m request

• Dream

1. To me the difficulty name【Daydream】 is better than 【Dream】nah 2weeb4me
2. 00:00:006 (1) - seriously? the whole spinner is too loud to be an opening. Please make the volume lower and use soft sampleset instead. fixed
3. 00:14:381 (2) - unify the spacing between (1) and (3)? fixed
4. 00:50:943 (3) - unify the spacing? fixed
5. 00:54:693 (4) - unify the spacing? fixed
6. 00:57:193 (2,3) - unify the spacing? fixed
7. 01:30:839 (2) - maybe... x372 y248 would be better? I mean the flow, yeah nah
8. 01:40:839 (2) - move it to x304 y292, then the flow would be better fixed
9. 01:50:839 (2) - x244 y216 to make a triangle... btw, if you fix this one, do make a ctrl+g for 01:51:256 (1) - please! for the ctrl+g, not for the triangle
10. 01:54:068 - obviously, a blank space for this part seems unreasonable. Because you map it out in other similar parts. fixed
11. 01:57:506 (3,5) - move it down a bit to make a perfect triangle fixed
12. 02:01:256 (4) - maybe add a NC for the end? fixed
13. 02:30:006 (4,1) - ok, this is the hardest part in this map. The level of this map, to me, is Hard Difficulty. So 7.0x spacing in a Hard difficulty is definitely unfit. and yes, you shouldn't make a sudden jump in such calm part. fixed
14. 02:55:006 (1) - ...Additions = Soft? uuuh?
15. 03:31:047 (3) - stack at the tail of 03:29:589 (1) - ? fixed
16. 03:37:193 (1) - move it to x328 y48 to make a perfect triangle? fixed
17. 03:40:318 (2,3,4) - I suggest you add finish for them \/
18. 03:40:631 (4) - you missed a clap i'm not the one making hitsounds but yeah seems good
19. 03:50:839 (2) - move to x440 y204? fixed
20. 04:11:412 (2) - unify the spacing? nah
21. 04:12:506 - you missed a beat here, add a circle plz fixed
22. 04:16:099 - 04:17:349 - missed a beat. meh
23. 04:18:964 (1) - remove NC, no need to stress 04:18:756 (1) - fixed
24. 05:01:256 (5) - NC to notice players that it ends. as if the song doesn't say it itself LUL
    
    Good Luck
    

Starz15 wrote:

Hey! Returning M4M!

Dream

1. 00:03:131 (2) - This slider has a semi-drastic SV change which could surprise some players (surprised me) maybe add a NC nah
2. 00:06:256 (1,2) - These two sliders have a different DS than 00:01:256 (1,2) - despite being the same notes and same time spacing nah
3. 00:12:506 (2) - Slidershape is ehh fixed
4. 00:17:818 (2) - This slider ends on a strong note. Consider shortening it so the sliderend lands on 00:18:443 - that way the vocal line is represented. For the second slider starting at 00:18:756 , just extend it all the way to 00:20:631 (2) - so it covers that entire vocal line fixed
5. 00:37:818 (2) - ^ same story with this slider. Just make sure that the vocal lines are represented nah here the song "starts"
6. 01:28:756 (1,1,1,1,1) - If you really wanted these sliders to represent that repeating sound, you might want to move them back about 5 ticks so that they encompass that part of the music I don't see what you meant, and to me they already represents the song well while playing
7. 01:38:756 (1,1,1,1,1) - ^ same here but I think you get it so I won't be repetitive I don't see what you meant, and to me they already represents the song well while playing
8. 02:23:131 (4,1) - These two circle don't really represent anything in the music. Imo, you should just delete them filler rythm + constant pattern repeating
9. 02:25:943 (1) - Kind of the same with this one, there is no real sound that it is portraying filler rythm + constant pattern repeating
10. 02:28:443 (6) - Okay, just so I won't start being repetitive, I'm just going to tell you that make sure every note you're placing matches a sound in the music
11. 02:55:006 (1) - Is there supposed to be a whistle here? yup
12. 03:20:006 (6) - Add NC fixed
13. 04:26:256 (1,2) - Not the best blanket fixed
14. 04:58:756 (4) - Add NC because of SV change fixed

General

Hey, so I just wanted to let you know that the only major problems I could find had to do with the proper placement of sliders so that they represent the music in the best way as well as the circles that appear to have no musical backing to them. Overall though, I love the slider shapes and the flow of the map as well as the song which is really fun to listen to. Thanks, and as I said it's mostly pattern repeatings or filler rythm.

On a side note, since I am a beginner modder this may not be as helpful or high quality as I'm trying to get better so it is entirely possible that I messed up somewhere. So if you have any questions, just PM me and I'll try to make sense of what I've written. Well, to me you're a GOOD beginner modder

Anyway, thanks for the mod on my map and GL with ranking this! Thanks!

P.S. In my mod req, I was talking about the old one then yeah it counts hehe old one best one

FiddleBlue wrote:

Hi from queue.
General

1. Disable countdown. Most maps nowadays don't use it. its... off?

Dream

1. 00:00:006 (1) - Spinner is pointless here. It doesn’t seem to emphasize anything and it kinda ruins the starting of the song. It was for drain time but ok, drops drain to 5:00
2. 00:14:693 - A circle here would improve the rhythm as the sound on the red tick is the same as the white tick. Also, the sounds on both ticks are the same as 00:13:443 (3,1) - , so it'll be weird if one emphasizes the second sound and the other doesn’t. k
3. 00:19:381 (1) - I think it'll be better if you only use sliders on the one with vocals so that they'll stand out more. eeeh
4. 00:23:131 (3) - The thing, isn't parallel. So you should probably fix that. redone slider
5. 00:35:631 (4) - It's ok, but I think it should be 1/2 slider to keep consistent. The sound on the circle is similar to 00:32:506 (2) - and previous 1/2 sliders, so it's weird for this to be different when there's nothing different on the circle time. fixed
6. 00:42:974 (5) - Circle isn't wrong since there's a sound, but I think the problem is that after 00:41:256 - , the instruments start playing in a 1/4 rhythm. You constantly ignore the sounds on the blue tick, but here you emphasize it. I think it's better if you delete this so that the concept you're making makes more sense. k
7. 00:46:256 (1,2) - I think for this section you should focus more on the instruments rather than the vocal as right now the instruments are stronger than before. You can prioritize vocals by making the start of them clickable, but try not to use a slider to emphasize the whole vocal line as I think there won't be any differences than the calm part before. I like how it is
8. 01:02:818 (4) - I would stack this with the circle before as the sound on the circle isn't intense. ye
9. 01:05:006 (1,2) - Any reason for these two having a 1/1 gap instead of 1/2 like the rest? emphasizing really strong vocals
10. 01:16:256 (1,2,3,4) - I think using 1/4 sliders on here is kinda lacking. There's a sound on the red ticks that are stronger than the one on the blue tick, so I think they should be clickable. Since this part is a build up for the chorus, I think doing something like [url=https://i.gyazo.com/11c4ce8e805e7dd4414641eedd78e000.png
    ]this[/url] is better. It makes the part stand out by being mapped to 1/4 snapping, hinting that the song is changing.
11. 01:18:756 (5) - NC here as it's a repeating 1/6 slider instead of the previous 1/4 slider. It's to differentiate them.
12. 01:21:568 (2,3) - I think it flows better if these are reversed, and while at it, perhaps blanket 01:21:568 (2,4) - .
13. 01:23:756 (4) - Slowing down the SV for this slider emphasizes it more, in my opinion, as there's a lack of sounds here unlike the rest. Of course not as much as 01:26:256 (1) - , but slower than the rest.
14. 01:33:756 (4) - ^
15. 01:28:756 (1,1,1,1,1,2,3) - The rhythm here is all wrong. The sound you're emphasizing is supposedly like this: https://i.gyazo.com/b6bf9ce1d8a77a27210 ... 7a2e31.png
16. 01:38:756 (1,1,1,1,1,2,3) - ^
17. 01:48:756 (1,1,1,1,1,2,3) - ^ etc etc.
    
    A lot of people asked me to change this rythm and I won't. This is maybe a little bit undermapped, but it is simple while being something that 3* player would have never seen ; so i'll keep it like that.
    
18. 01:43:756 (3,4) - Previously you emphasize this part using a slider, how come it's with circles now? fixed
19. 02:08:443 (4) - Circle here doesn't emphasize anything. The gap between 02:06:881 (3,5) - with the circle is very awkward as before you emphasize the vocal, but here you ignore them. Players might get confused on the rhythm as they are accustomed to following the vocal and misread the circle. Continue to follow the vocal here would be appropriate as there's no change in music to support the weird change of rhythm here. Mmmmmh... dude do you play with one hear or? There's vocals in the left hear ("way")
20. 02:33:756 (3) - Slider head is missing a finish hitsound. wups
21. 02:36:256 (3,4) - Remove slider whistle here. The sound here is similar to 02:31:256 (3,4) - , so the hitsounds should be the same too. ye
22. 02:40:006 (4) - Slider whistle here doesn't seem to give feedback on anything. ye
23. 03:23:756 (1,2,3) - I think a 1/2 slider here would suit it more.
24. 03:46:256 (1) - This part here is different than before, so it'll be better if you emphasize the 1/8 rhythm sounds.
25. 03:48:131 (4,1) - Fix overlap.
26. 04:06:099 - Circle here as the sound is strong. k
27. 04:06:099 - ^ k
28. 04:16:099 - ^ k

Rhythm needs fixing, but overall the map is ok. thanks and ye
Good luck.

1. Be 100% sure that you are using all of the hitosunds you have sumbitted with this map.
2. There is no reason to have a negative offset, just change it to 1256, it will fit nicely. Since the slider velocity is 1.0x in the green line there, you will not need it anymore since it is the original velocity that follows from the red line. This is the result.
3. 00:00:631 - The green line you have here is unnecessary because you don't have any objects within the time it covers.
4. 00:12:506 (2) - The design would look neater if this slider blanketed somehow with the previous one, kinda like this.
5. 00:15:006 (4,1) - The blanket that you are making here can be improved, just take a look from 00:15:787 - and watch how the approach circle from (4)'s tail doesn't blanket well with the body of (1). This would be better.
6. 01:01:256 - I highly suggest to reduce volume here to something like 40% because right now it is too loud imo. Listening to the finish sound repeating at that volume might be annoying and doesn't fit the calm song, so yeah, you should reduce the volume there. I also do not agree with the clap usage, perhaps just leaving only the normal sampleset without any additions on the strong notes is enough. (Note: I'm checking this with the default skin, so I do not know if you have different hitsounds aside from the custom ones on your map).
7. 01:21:724 (3,4) - This blanket can be improved.
8. 01:25:006 (4) - You can delete this slider and leave a note in its place. So at 01:25:318 - you can add a 1/4 slider and replace the other two following circles with other 1/4 sliders, it may be a better pattern. This is what I mean. You should also apply it to similar places like 01:22:818 - 01:27:818 - 01:32:818 - 01:35:318 - 01:37:818 - . And there you should get the idea, just be consitent.
9. 01:26:881 - You usually start these kind of sound with a slider, but this time you did not. I see that you used a slow slider to represent the slowdown thingin the music, which is cool; however, the sound that is being covered in the tail is very strong and doesn't feel emphasized as it should be, so a thing you could do is to reduce the slider's length by 1/4 and start the usual slider in the downbeat so the strong sound is clickable and feels correctly emphasized. Like this. Regarding to the spacing on that, this would work fine imo. Apply in similar places.
10. 01:29:172 (1,1,1) - You do not need an nc spam here since the patterns is easy to read and there are no slider velocity changes. This applies to similar places.
11. 01:31:047 (3,1) - You probably need a higher jump to represent the music better.
12. 02:01:295 (1) - The start of the spinner is too sudden, just start it at the next 1/4 or 1/8 note. 1/16 is just too sudden.
13. 02:36:256 (3,4) - This blanket can be improved.

ezek wrote:

Hello~
[Dream]

1. Be 100% sure that you are using all of the hitosunds you have sumbitted with this map. yup, i use all of them
2. There is no reason to have a negative offset, just change it to 1256, it will fit nicely. Since the slider velocity is 1.0x in the green line there, you will not need it anymore since it is the original velocity that follows from the red line. This is the result. I know, there used to be a spinner at the start for drain time but I removed it, and I didn't changed the red line (i needed that negative to snap correctly the spinner)
3. 00:00:631 - The green line you have here is unnecessary because you don't have any objects within the time it covers. It was for the spinner I mentionned earlier
4. 00:12:506 (2) - The design would look neater if this slider blanketed somehow with the previous one, kinda like this. k
5. 00:15:006 (4,1) - The blanket that you are making here can be improved, just take a look from 00:15:787 - and watch how the approach circle from (4)'s tail doesn't blanket well with the body of (1). This would be better. k
6. 01:01:256 - I highly suggest to reduce volume here to something like 40% because right now it is too loud imo. Listening to the finish sound repeating at that volume might be annoying and doesn't fit the calm song, so yeah, you should reduce the volume there. I also do not agree with the clap usage, perhaps just leaving only the normal sampleset without any additions on the strong notes is enough. (Note: I'm checking this with the default skin, so I do not know if you have different hitsounds aside from the custom ones on your map). Default skin on too, always!
7. 01:21:724 (3,4) - This blanket can be improved. k
8. 01:25:006 (4) - You can delete this slider and leave a note in its place. So at 01:25:318 - you can add a 1/4 slider and replace the other two following circles with other 1/4 sliders, it may be a better pattern. This is what I mean. You should also apply it to similar places like 01:22:818 - 01:27:818 - 01:32:818 - 01:35:318 - 01:37:818 - . And there you should get the idea, just be consitent.
9. 01:26:881 - You usually start these kind of sound with a slider, but this time you did not. I see that you used a slow slider to represent the slowdown thingin the music, which is cool; however, the sound that is being covered in the tail is very strong and doesn't feel emphasized as it should be, so a thing you could do is to reduce the slider's length by 1/4 and start the usual slider in the downbeat so the strong sound is clickable and feels correctly emphasized. Like this. Regarding to the spacing on that, this would work fine imo. Apply in similar places. k
10. 01:29:172 (1,1,1) - You do not need an nc spam here since the patterns is easy to read and there are no slider velocity changes. This applies to similar places. I liked the rainbow effect, but ok
11. 01:31:047 (3,1) - You probably need a higher jump to represent the music better. k
12. 02:01:295 (1) - The start of the spinner is too sudden, just start it at the next 1/4 or 1/8 note. 1/16 is just too sudden. k
13. 02:36:256 (3,4) - This blanket can be improved. k

The rest is about pretty much the same stuff I said earlier, so keep working on that. thanks! I fixed a lot
Keep getting mods and improving your mapping skills, show your true power! >.< Thanks!

Good luck~

1. as for intro (everything until 00:41:256 - ), visuals could easily be improved, i'll give a couple examples. 00:01:256 (1,2) - (2)'s head touches (1)'s body, i think you can avoid that. 00:08:131 (2,3) - blanket could be improved. 00:10:631 (4,1) - these don't mix well visually with each other - one is absolutely straight and other has complicated shape, try to bend straight one, i think it would look cooler. And so on
   Also, make consistent visual distance between your objects, because such differences are pretty noticable, avoiding them would make map's visual appearance much better (actually seems like this suggestion applies to the whole map)
2. also, sv changes in the beginning seem random, try to choose 2-3 values and switch between them, because changing to 0.68 one time and to 0.7 other seems odd
3. some more examples on visuals: 01:12:506 (3,4,5) - not equal spacing, 02:26:256 (3,4) - 02:16:256 (1,2) - 02:11:256 (1,2) - blankets, 01:42:818 (1) - 03:51:881 (4) - ugly shape, 02:45:631 (2,3,1) - awkward spacing and so on. I didn't point every single on of them, im sure you can go through the map yourself and improve it
4. 00:05:631 (1) - maybe remove nc?
5. 00:40:006 - spinner fits here quite well (don't forget to silence its end if you apply the idea)
6. 01:26:881 - im pretty sure you should not leave this beat unclickable
7. 01:28:756 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - for this section rhythm is a bit broken, sounds are actually in groups of 3 (this would fit better, plus you should emphasize 5-6-7 because there are drums)
8. 01:33:756 (4) - sv change is drastic enough for a nc
9. 04:05:631 (1,2,3) - i don't think anyone would ever read this properly, such pattern wasn't established anywhere else in the map
10. 04:28:131 (3,4,5) - broken rhythm

h4d0uk3n1 wrote:

Hello, m4m here ah at least someone that returns M4M quickly (i'm looking at you pandano and erra)

dream:

1. as for intro (everything until 00:41:256 - ), visuals could easily be improved, i'll give a couple examples. 00:01:256 (1,2) - (2)'s head touches (1)'s body, i think you can avoid that. 00:08:131 (2,3) - blanket could be improved. 00:10:631 (4,1) - these don't mix well visually with each other - one is absolutely straight and other has complicated shape, try to bend straight one, i think it would look cooler. And so on
   Also, make consistent visual distance between your objects, because such differences are pretty noticable, avoiding them would make map's visual appearance much better (actually seems like this suggestion applies to the whole map)
2. also, sv changes in the beginning seem random, try to choose 2-3 values and switch between them, because changing to 0.68 one time and to 0.7 other seems odd
3. some more examples on visuals: 01:12:506 (3,4,5) - not equal spacing, 02:26:256 (3,4) - 02:16:256 (1,2) - 02:11:256 (1,2) - blankets, 01:42:818 (1) - 03:51:881 (4) - ugly shape, 02:45:631 (2,3,1) - awkward spacing and so on. I didn't point every single on of them, im sure you can go through the map yourself and improve it improved some, left some
4. 00:05:631 (1) - maybe remove nc? ye
5. 00:40:006 - spinner fits here quite well (don't forget to silence its end if you apply the idea) ok, though i'm really unsure about it, 3 modders told me to so
6. 01:26:881 - im pretty sure you should not leave this beat unclickable this is not a huge problem, it's a missed sound but the rythm goes with it in some shape
7. 01:28:756 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - for this section rhythm is a bit broken, sounds are actually in groups of 3 (this would fit better, plus you should emphasize 5-6-7 because there are drums) eeeh would mess up the whole pattern, and no it's not broken
8. 01:33:756 (4) - sv change is drastic enough for a nc ye
9. 04:05:631 (1,2,3) - i don't think anyone would ever read this properly, such pattern wasn't established anywhere else in the map it's readable
10. 04:28:131 (3,4,5) - broken rhythm ye, thanks resnaps to 1/4 xd

Hope this helped, good luck!

josh1024 wrote:

From the queue:

Late mod here.

Box.

First, I prefer Offest 1264.

1. 00:10:631 (4) prefer slightly curved sliders here I mean nothing is straight around here.
2. 00:21:256 (1) prefer this moved up a bit.
3. 00:42:506 (3,4) a slider would be just fine. No that something here deserves two clicks like here 00:50:631 (2,3) . The deep bass in the back "strikes" in
4. 00:56:256 (1,2,3,4) end of 1, 2, 3 are straight but head of 4 is slightly off. maybe move 234 down a bit so 1234 form a curve, if the blanket can't be changed.
5. 01:01:881 (2,3) line up plz.
6. 01:21:256 (1,3) too close imo.
7. 01:26:256 (1) from this straight slider on they're fine bcuz they serve a distinct function.
8. 01:44:381 (1,3) ^
9. 01:45:318 (1,2,3) make them symmetric? they are after these 01:44:693 (2,3,4) after all. they are lol, 120° for each slider
10. 01:47:818 (1,2,3) ^ copy and pasted ^
11. 02:08:443 (4) make this a 1/2 beat slider to cover prolonged vocal.
12. 02:23:443 (1,2) might not be a good place to put circles due to vocal starting on a weird time. following the lead instrument
13. 02:28:443 (6,7) ^ vocaloids are awesome but they do have their weaknesses. following the lead instrument
14. 03:18:443 (1,2) odd nc?
15. 03:31:568 (2,3,4) symmetry.
16. 03:33:756 (1,2,3,4) nice. tyvm
17. 03:57:193 (1,2,3) symmetry.
18. 04:02:506 (6) 1/6 Beat Snap. nop, too slow on 1/6

That's all. Things repeat themselves.

Come[Back]Home wrote:

Dream

General

I dont understand the weird spacings you use throughout this map, its just never consistent, like it switches between 0,5 and 1,8 or so, really weird to look at imo i'll work on that

modding

* 00:06:266 (1,2) - Just me, but I like it wen 2 sliders fit to each other if they are in the same combo, looks better tbh. Those just look randomly placed here
They aren't :
00:03:141 (2,1) - blankets
00:06:266 (1,2) - they are reversed and kinda blankets too.

* 00:28:141 (2) - SV changes need need new combos to indicate them. (apply this to every sv change where you havent nc'd it) ok, tried to fix it

* 00:42:828 (4,1) - Why the stack? There is a strong beat on (1), hiding it under (4) kinda takes the movement away and the impact it just feels better like that
* 00:57:828 (4,1) - They look really weird placed like that (mainly because of (1)) How about you make (1) somewhat similiar to (4)? hm k
* 01:02:828 (4,1) - Same reasoning as 00:42:828 (4,1) - (wont point them out anymore)
* 01:19:391 (3,4,1) - Why do they have different spacing as the two before? looks really bad and ugly tbh. keep it consistent k
* 01:23:766 (4) - this obviously needs a nc because of sv change oops
* 01:27:203 (2) - ^ (wont point them out anymore)
* 01:28:766 (1,2,3,4,5) - Shouldnt this pattern start here 01:28:974 - so it fits better with the music? right now it mostly feels like youre clicking the weak noises instead of the dtrong ones. 01:38:766 (1,2,3,4,5) no, it feels weird when playing
* 01:38:766 (1,2,3,4,5) - ^ (wont point them out anymore)
* 02:05:641 - 02:41:266 - I dont really get the random spacings youve used here, why dont you keep it consistent in some way. Right now it looks just weird
* 02:53:141 (2,1) 1,4 ds before, now 1,04. why? tried to keep things consistent visually and not ds snap because it was ugly as fuck, but i'll rework
* 03:18:766 (3,1,2,3,4,5) - If this is supposed to be a hard, then this is impossible to read for a player you just got the point of being able to read Hard Diffs. Please replace those with sliders, otherwise this is unrankable. This is rankable, this is a pattern that repeats 3 times or two. at least more rankable than your 8 circle thingy in your hard LUL
* 03:44:391 (4) - This one is too high, move it down ye
* 03:48:141 (4,1) - stack them perfectly ye
* 04:05:953 (2,3,1) - I really dont get the spacings, players will missread this as 1/4 ye
* 04:18:766 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - too hard to read as I said it's repeated two time, and tbh it's not that hard to hit as it's 1/3 so the player have the time to react


Main issues in this map are:
- weird spacing decisions throughout the map
- ncs missing at many places where they are needed
- visually not really appealing, looks kinda weird mostly (because of weird spacings)
- weird rythm changes


Thats it, keep working on those few things and you'll have a great map! Good luck!~

1. 00:01:266 (1) - Make this sliderwave symmetrical.
2. 00:11:266 (1) - ^
3. 00:11:266 (1,2) - You can blanket these a bit more. Here's a guide t/208596
4. 00:15:016 (4,5) - improve blanket.
5. 00:16:266 (5,6) - ^ same improve blanket with (6) sliderhead.
6. 00:18:766 (1) - Make it more symmetrical.
7. 00:21:266 (1) - This sliderwave looks a bit odd, you can try to make it more neat. Here's some examples: https://i.imgur.com/12sIEwX.png ; https://i.imgur.com/URTVkWD.png
8. 00:23:141 (3) - Slider doesn't blanketing himself perfectly.
9. 00:28:141 (1) - Snap on white tick. And move red point more to the middle to make it more smoother.
10. 00:36:266 (1) - ^ same with red point.
11. 00:33:141 (1) - I think you can use less slider points on this.
12. 00:37:828 (2) - Improve this to look a bit more symmetrical.
13. 00:47:516 (2,3,4) - Make design more symmetrical.
14. 00:52:516 (2,3) - Improve blanket.
15. 01:08:141 (1,2,3,4) - I think you can just sliders to look more similar.
16. 01:15:016 (1) - I think you can remove NC.
17. 02:11:266 (1,2) - Blanket this more.
18. 02:18:766 (5,6) - 02:29:703 (3,4) - ^
19. 02:46:109 (3,1) - You can move these a bit right to align with (2) slider.
20. 03:13:766 (1,2,1,2) - Keep spacing same here and remove NC here 03:15:016 (1) -
21. 04:09:078 (3,4) - 04:11:578 (4,5) - You can also blanket sliders more.
22. 04:33:141 (2) - Improve curve to look more symmetrical.

EggsGone wrote:

1. 00:01:266 (1) - Make this sliderwave symmetrical. ye
2. 00:11:266 (1) - ^ ye
3. 00:11:266 (1,2) - You can blanket these a bit more. Here's a guide t/208596 ye
4. 00:15:016 (4,5) - improve blanket. ye
5. 00:16:266 (5,6) - ^ same improve blanket with (6) sliderhead. ye
6. 00:18:766 (1) - Make it more symmetrical. ye
7. 00:21:266 (1) - This sliderwave looks a bit odd, you can try to make it more neat. Here's some examples: https://i.imgur.com/12sIEwX.png ; https://i.imgur.com/URTVkWD.png ye
8. 00:23:141 (3) - Slider doesn't blanketing himself perfectly. ye
9. 00:28:141 (1) - Snap on white tick. And move red point more to the middle to make it more smoother. ye
10. 00:36:266 (1) - ^ same with red point. ye
11. 00:33:141 (1) - I think you can use less slider points on this. ye
12. 00:37:828 (2) - Improve this to look a bit more symmetrical. ye
13. 00:47:516 (2,3,4) - Make design more symmetrical. ye
14. 00:52:516 (2,3) - Improve blanket. ye
15. 01:08:141 (1,2,3,4) - I think you can just sliders to look more similar. ye
16. 01:15:016 (1) - I think you can remove NC. ye
17. 02:11:266 (1,2) - Blanket this more. ye
18. 02:18:766 (5,6) - 02:29:703 (3,4) - ^ ye
19. 02:46:109 (3,1) - You can move these a bit right to align with (2) slider. ye
20. 03:13:766 (1,2,1,2) - Keep spacing same here and remove NC here 03:15:016 (1) - ye
21. 04:09:078 (3,4) - 04:11:578 (4,5) - You can also blanket sliders more. ye
22. 04:33:141 (2) - Improve curve to look more symmetrical. ye