Agreed, it seems like an easy way out. A way to get the recognition of being ranked but with less effort.Shiirn wrote:
As it stands, a lot of new mappers actually try to aim for Loved rather than Ranked, purely because it's something they can reliably work towards. This is severely fucked up. It is a symptom of a problem both in the Loved requirements and the current motivational/activity issues plaguing the ranking system.
I agree that normal maps shouldn't go into loved, but some people just might not be able to get a map ranked as it sparks controversy. Not that it is unrankable, but because no one thinks it should be ranked.Shiirn wrote:
As it stands, the requirements for Loved are if anything, too generic. Ideally speaking there shouldn't be any maps in Loved that are just "normal maps except the mapper decided to go for loved instead of ranked because BNs are dead".
By the way, couldn't the problems of "BNs are dead" be fixed by having MORE active BNs? It seems like the kind of thing that would need to be much bigger considering the massive playerbase osu! has.
Again I think this could be more easily fixed by having more BNs. I don't see a downside to having more.Shiirn wrote:
Loved maps, that is to say, maps that the community loves, that are perfectly rankable should be getting ranked just fine. If they aren't, that's the problem that should be fixed - not the threshold of SP or favorites. That's irrelevant.
100% agree with this statement. A separate group of people could be in charge of running the loved section (obviously QAT would still have some power) that are not necessarily great at mapping, but people who know what the community wants. Big problems in maps should be fixed (unless it is intentional) and the Metadata should be correct too.Shiirn wrote:
Add a requirement to Loved that a map must be unrankable for some reason, and have one or two people actually vet these maps to make sure that they actually fit the spirit of the Loved nomenclature.
Shiirn wrote:
Maybe have maps "Apply" for Loved, and have a monthly or weekly vote on however many maps. Reject maps that fail for a month or something.
Wasn't this the original set up for loved? I seem to remember something about applying floating around, and people used to vote on maps.