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CHiCO with HoneyWorks - Pride Kakumei [Taiko]

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Ozu
644 posts
Joined July 2011
Topic Starter
Ozu
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 2017년 6월 13일 화요일 at 오후 8:04:18

Artist: CHiCO with HoneyWorks
Title: Pride Kakumei
Source: 銀魂°
Tags: TV Size Gintama° 2015 Opening 2 op2 komasy
BPM: 185
Filesize: 2477kb
Play Time: 01:30
Difficulties Available:
  1. Futsuu (2.53 stars, 221 notes)
  2. komasy's Kantan (1.45 stars, 119 notes)
  3. komasy's Oni (4.64 stars, 519 notes)
  4. Muzukashii (3.08 stars, 368 notes)
Download: CHiCO with HoneyWorks - Pride Kakumei
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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komasy's Kantan by komasy
Futsuu by me
Muzukashii by me
komasy's Oni by komasy

my diff gomi sorry
Last edited by Ozu , edited 13 times in total.
Karee Pan
185 posts
Joined December 2015
Karee Pan
Yahhoo M4M

[General]

01:18:580 (1) - I don't like that you're making me smash buttons at a fairly silent part of a song just before the last drop.
I would get rid of this spinner in every difficulty and just keep it empty.
00:32:851 - Timing point off in some diffs. I think ?

[Kantan]

I mean it's fine, just might be a bit too hard at times with the 1/2 doubles/triplets. I'm no Kantan expert so I'll leave this for wiser people.

[Futsuu]

00:13:878 - 00:16:472 (15) - Map these the same way
00:22:472 (38,39,40) - I think this switch off the snare kat beat can be really awkward for Futsuu players. Either map some earlier parts a bit differently with the snare (for example 00:18:580 you could follow vocals more) or just delete 00:22:310 (37,38)
00:23:607 (42) - d
00:35:770 (78) - Maybe move to 00:35:445 - and 00:34:797 (76,77) - ctrl-g ?
00:42:256 - Vocals pretty strong, you could map just 00:42:742 - 00:43:229 - instead
00:51:824 (14) - d ?
00:52:797 (18,20) - ctrl-g ?
00:55:067 (26,27,28) - Could delete these to keep it to vocals only here. Also it's a break!
01:00:256 - Go same as with first section of Kiai
01:23:445 (15) 01:26:851 (30) - Too much for Futsuu i think

[Muzukashii]

00:01:229 (4) - This is d in Oni
00:05:607 (21) - d would emphasize the guitar a bit more and be the same as the next guitars
00:06:742 (26,31) - Same sounds map the same?
00:18:905 (33) - Maybe do this 1 note forward as d, like Futsuu ?
00:25:553 (62) - ^ Same, but kd
00:34:634 - 00:35:932 - Could add k's, if yes, then 00:35:445 (102) - switch to d ?
00:51:661 (18) - We could end this set with a double click too by switching this to d, flow feels better
00:56:364 (40,41) - Ctrl-g for melody and drum? (This is the 45 minutes ^^)
00:59:607 (59,65) - We could help with the triplets by changing these to d ?
01:08:202 - Nope. Probably too hard for Muzu.

[Oni]

00:18:094 (40,41) - kk or kd would go hand in hand with the upcoming patterns better
00:21:986 (61,62) - Could consider deleting this triplet
00:30:418 (110,111) - Make these k's like the other similar drumspots around here ? ( 00:30:256 (109) - This d then too though )
00:58:391 (72) - Pretty random double, why ?
00:59:121 - 2nd Kiai part could have more kat in the triplets to emphasize the higher vocal line? Maybe switch a few ddk/kdd ?
Oni is really nice.


Pls rank this cause it's a great song! Good luck!
PatZar
3,079 posts
Joined March 2013
PatZar
[General]
Oni od 5.5 is better, since Inner already 6, and i dont think so HPOD spread should be like this, and ofc i dont how it works LOL

[Inner Oni]
00:32:688 - d here, following vocal is better than nothing,
seems fine, have some minor problem too, but i think its ok.


[Oni]
00:16:797 (28,29,30,31,32,33,34,35,36) - too long i think, deleting here 00:17:040 (31) - would cool too i think.
00:51:499 (22) - i've seen 1/2 break in the previous part, delete here would be better i think, and also there is no sound there.
01:01:878 (99) - delete this if you delete above ^.
01:08:040 (143,144,145,146,147,148,149,150,151,152,153,154,155,156,157) - isn't that too long for oni?, fyi i mapped like this before and got too many complains like these pattern, i recommend you to delete some.
01:22:634 (19) - delete this if you delete 00:51:499 (22) -


[Muzukashii]
01:08:202 (105,106,107,108,109,110,111,112,113,114,115,116,117) - yes i know this is muzukashii, iirc muzukashii should be a monotone pattern and this is too much to be a muzukashii, same as like On but in muzukashii is too harsh for muzukashii player.
01:23:932 (22) - delete this, so player can prepare for k k kkkkk,

there is none of problem except that, nice map! gl~
Ozu
644 posts
Joined July 2011
Topic Starter
Ozu

Karee Pan wrote:

Yahhoo M4M

[General]

01:18:580 (1) - I don't like that you're making me smash buttons at a fairly silent part of a song just before the last drop.
I would get rid of this spinner in every difficulty and just keep it empty.
>this express the sound that bigger and bigger step by step, and spinner will express this best imo. keep now.
00:32:851 - Timing point off in some diffs. I think ?
>muzu and oni contain it and it's SV pattern :)

[Kantan]

I mean it's fine, just might be a bit too hard at times with the 1/2 doubles/triplets. I'm no Kantan expert so I'll leave this for wiser people.
>thanks :D

[Futsuu]

00:13:878 - 00:16:472 (15) - Map these the same way
>deleted
00:22:472 (38,39,40) - I think this switch off the snare kat beat can be really awkward for Futsuu players. Either map some earlier parts a bit differently with the snare (for example 00:18:580 you could follow vocals more) or just delete 00:22:310 (37,38)
>d dk fixed
00:23:607 (42) - d
>for against 00:24:905 (45) - , keep.
00:35:770 (78) - Maybe move to 00:35:445 - and 00:34:797 (76,77) - ctrl-g ?
>previous pattern looks more futsuu to me, so keep.
00:42:256 - Vocals pretty strong, you could map just 00:42:742 - 00:43:229 - instead
>kkd looks little difficult to me, keep now.
00:51:824 (14) - d ?
>fixed
00:52:797 (18,20) - ctrl-g ?
>fixed
00:55:067 (26,27,28) - Could delete these to keep it to vocals only here. Also it's a break!
>dddkk fixed
01:00:256 - Go same as with first section of Kiai
>fixed
01:23:445 (15) 01:26:851 (30) - Too much for Futsuu i think
>deleted

[Muzukashii]

00:01:229 (4) - This is d in Oni
>more easy against oni, so use k.
00:05:607 (21) - d would emphasize the guitar a bit more and be the same as the next guitars
>since drum and vocal pitch is going higher, keep k now.
00:06:742 (26,31) - Same sounds map the same?
>fixed
00:18:905 (33) - Maybe do this 1 note forward as d, like Futsuu ?
>fixed
00:25:553 (62) - ^ Same, but kd
>from here, remapping sone part, really sorry xp
00:34:634 - 00:35:932 - Could add k's, if yes, then 00:35:445 (102) - switch to d ?
00:51:661 (18) - We could end this set with a double click too by switching this to d, flow feels better
00:56:364 (40,41) - Ctrl-g for melody and drum? (This is the 45 minutes ^^)
00:59:607 (59,65) - We could help with the triplets by changing these to d ?
01:08:202 - Nope. Probably too hard for Muzu.

[Oni]

00:18:094 (40,41) - kk or kd would go hand in hand with the upcoming patterns better
>it will be different if you have different key setting. i feel this is fit on drum, so keep now.
00:21:986 (61,62) - Could consider deleting this triplet
>keep cause i can't find reason to delete.
00:30:418 (110,111) - Make these k's like the other similar drumspots around here ? ( 00:30:256 (109) - This d then too though )
>vocal following part, keep.
00:58:391 (72) - Pretty random double, why ?
>offbeat express
00:59:121 - 2nd Kiai part could have more kat in the triplets to emphasize the higher vocal line? Maybe switch a few ddk/kdd ?
>keep cause want to k party xD
Oni is really nice.
>wowowowowo Thanks alot xD


Pls rank this cause it's a great song! Good luck!

Thanks for mod xD
Ozu
644 posts
Joined July 2011
Topic Starter
Ozu

PatZar wrote:

[General]
Oni od 5.5 is better, since Inner already 6, and i dont think so HPOD spread should be like this, and ofc i dont how it works LOL
>5.5 fixed

[Oni]
00:16:797 (28,29,30,31,32,33,34,35,36) - too long i think, deleting here 00:17:040 (31) - would cool too i think.
>wow nice! fixed
00:51:499 (22) - i've seen 1/2 break in the previous part, delete here would be better i think, and also there is no sound there.
>cause vocal sound in here, keep now.
01:01:878 (99) - delete this if you delete above ^.
01:08:040 (143,144,145,146,147,148,149,150,151,152,153,154,155,156,157) - isn't that too long for oni?, fyi i mapped like this before and got too many complains like these pattern, i recommend you to delete some.
>i think there's no way to express this part without this, and all fit on sound. maybe keep.
01:22:634 (19) - delete this if you delete 00:51:499 (22) -


[Muzukashii]
01:08:202 (105,106,107,108,109,110,111,112,113,114,115,116,117) - yes i know this is muzukashii, iirc muzukashii should be a monotone pattern and this is too much to be a muzukashii, same as like On but in muzukashii is too harsh for muzukashii player.
>kkkkkkdddddd fixed
01:23:932 (22) - delete this, so player can prepare for k k kkkkk,
>01:24:256 (24) - deleted. so more easy to play 5 stream.

there is none of problem except that, nice map! gl~
>Thanks~
Thanks for modding xD
komasy
621 posts
Joined October 2012
komasy

PatZar wrote:

[Inner Oni]
00:32:688 - d here, following vocal is better than nothing,
I would like to enphasize here 00:32:851 (108) -
seems fine, have some minor problem too, but i think its ok.
thank you!
Jaltzu
771 posts
Joined April 2013
Jaltzu
You do still take mods, right? I just kinda randomly stumbled on this. Nevertheless, I do modding just for fun anyway, so here goes. :)

General things on Kantan and Futsuu
Both are too hard for their ranking. Basically:

Kantan
- 1/2 patterns such as 00:05:283 (12,13) and 00:08:526 (18,19) should be avoided in almost every single case.
- Even 1/1 patterns should be used sparingly
- You should have 2/1 - 4/1 breaks fairly frequently

Futsuu
- Base spacing should be 2/1
- 1/2 patterns should be used sparingly
- Also needs more 2/1 + breaks


In short, both of these diffs are a little overmapped for their difficulty level. But at least the rhythms are good. ;)


Muzukashii
You should probably have couple more 2/1 breaks.
00:02:688 (10) - d
00:03:661 (13) - d
00:04:959 (18) - Delete
00:09:175 (36) - Delete
00:17:202 (25) - Maybe delete? 5x streams are usually not used in Muzu-level diffs, but this could still be OK.
00:23:770 (53) - Delete
01:14:256 (123,124) - These should be in 01:14:283 and 01:14:526 respectively (1/4 snap divisor).
01:22:634 (16,17) - k d fits better
01:24:499 (25) - Delete

Oni
I love this one. :)
00:51:499 (22,23) - dk
00:59:932 (85,86) - ↑
01:14:256 (167,168) - Snap these to 1/4 like in Muzukashii.

These next ones would make a nice d d d d ... pattern that fits the bass sounds better in my opinion.
01:15:013 - Add d
01:15:661 - ↑
01:15:986 (171) - d
01:16:310 -　↑
01:16:634 (172) - ↑
01:16:959　↑

01:21:986 (14,15) - dk
01:22:310 (16) - k

01:26:851 (48) - Deleted
01:26:932 (49) - Delete
01:27:580 - Add d

Inner Oni
Generally I feel like this diff is slightly undermapped during slower parts of the song. After all, this is the highest diff in the set. So, most of the suggestions are just some note additions.
00:00:905 - Add d
00:01:229 - ↑
00:02:202 - ↑
00:06:094 - ↑
00:12:580 - ↑
00:13:553 (8) - D (add finish sound)
00:14:851 (16,17,18) - ddk fits better imo.
00:15:175 - Add d
00:16:148 (24) - D
00:16:148 (24) - ↑
00:17:770 - Add d
00:18:094 - ↑
00:20:364 - ↑
00:22:959 - ↑
00:24:094 - ↑
00:29:770 - ↑
00:30:094 - Add d and change00:30:256 (96) - into k
00:31:391 - Add d
00:32:688 - ↑
00:40:797 - Add k
00:41:121 - Add d
00:43:715 - ↑
00:48:905 - ↑
00:59:283 - ↑
01:06:742 - Add k
01:15:013 - Add d
01:15:661 (174) - d
01:15:661 (174) - Add d
01:18:580 (1) - End the spinner at 01:18:580 (1) - and add notes to 01:19:878 - and 01:20:040 -
01:29:770 (74,75,76) - I feel like KKK (all finishes) fits better. Alternatively KDK works too.
komasy
621 posts
Joined October 2012
komasy

Jaltzu wrote:

SPOILER
Inner Oni
Generally I feel like this diff is slightly undermapped during slower parts of the song. After all, this is the highest diff in the set. So, most of the suggestions are just some note additions.
00:00:905 - Add d
keep
00:01:229 - ↑
00:02:202 - ↑
keep
00:06:094 - ↑
00:12:580 - ↑
keep
00:13:553 (8) - D (add finish sound)
00:14:851 (16,17,18) - ddk fits better imo.
following drum
00:15:175 - Add d
keep
00:16:148 (24) - D
00:17:770 - Add d
keep
00:18:094 - ↑
add k
00:20:364 - ↑
keep
00:22:959 - ↑
00:24:094 - ↑
keep
00:29:770 - ↑
00:30:094 - Add d and change00:30:256 (96) - into k
keep.I want to get simple
00:31:391 - Add d
00:32:688 - ↑
keep
00:40:797 - Add k
00:41:121 - Add d
keep
00:43:715 - ↑
00:48:905 - ↑
00:59:283 - ↑
01:06:742 - Add k
01:15:013 - Add d
01:15:661 (174) - d
add k
01:18:580 (1) - End the spinner at 01:18:580 (1) - and add notes to 01:19:878 - and 01:20:040 -
01:19:878 - add d
01:29:770 (74,75,76) - I feel like KKK (all finishes) fits better. Alternatively KDK works too.
change to KDK
Thank you for modding!!
I fixed it not replying.

SPOILER
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TitleUnicode:プライド革命
Artist:CHiCO with HoneyWorks
ArtistUnicode:CHiCO with HoneyWorks
Creator:404 AccNotFound
Version:komasy's Inner Oni
Source:銀魂°
Tags:TV Size Gintama° 2015 Opening 2 op2 komasy
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