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dNextGen
Krzy win

also lol at touchscreen

and spin.rar MU Link
Hakeru

dNextGen wrote:

Krzy win

also lol at touchscreen

and spin.rar MU Link
my my..

>
> touchscreen
> insane spinning ?_?
> spin.rar

i lol'd
Mismagius
I really wanted to take a look at that link but I'm gonna get banned/scorereseted if I do that
mikhe
spin.rar..... more cheats? -.-""
SilentWings_old

Glass wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/u/409747

You should really keep an eye on this guy, a couple months back he couldn't SH anything for shit, but nowadays, every time I check his profile, it looks somewhat like this:
SPOILER
[attachment=1:8db44]silv1.jpg[/attachment:8db44]

But then again that means nothing amirite cause he could've been retrying these songs over and over, yeah no, cause then you'd click on his Historical statistics and see this:
SPOILER
[attachment=0:8db44]silv2.jpg[/attachment:8db44]

Are you gonna tell me nothing looks wrong here? Don't give me with that "he could've been playing spunout" bullshit. Nobody is accurate enough to SH/XH FC every fucking song on the first ranked play after playing those songs on spunout.

Still not enough for you? How 'bout you look at this.
All of those were songs on this month's chart, look at how condensed the time lapses are and how he got less than 5 100s in each of these maps. Someone tell me how this is possible. Unless this person is Cookiezi's alternate or something I'm not buying this shit. He seems to be putting little to no effort to win the chart while the rest of us are actually trying to do it legitly.

That is all I have to say for now.
I have spectated him before and have seen him play. No he does NOT full combo songs on first try in ranked play. He just retries until he gets a SH. He won the last month's chart and is a really talented player. I really doubt he hacks.
DS Primity
http://osu.ppy.sh/u/271020

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/43105
Easy #31
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/31000
Kero~ #10

guy uses spin hacks or something, unless he can just spin 460 SPM on a dime whenever he feels like.
Claudia_old

SilentWings wrote:

Glass wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/u/409747

You should really keep an eye on this guy, a couple months back he couldn't SH anything for shit, but nowadays, every time I check his profile, it looks somewhat like this:
SPOILER
[attachment=1:51251]silv1.jpg[/attachment:51251]

But then again that means nothing amirite cause he could've been retrying these songs over and over, yeah no, cause then you'd click on his Historical statistics and see this:
SPOILER
[attachment=0:51251]silv2.jpg[/attachment:51251]

Are you gonna tell me nothing looks wrong here? Don't give me with that "he could've been playing spunout" bullshit. Nobody is accurate enough to SH/XH FC every fucking song on the first ranked play after playing those songs on spunout.

Still not enough for you? How 'bout you look at this.
All of those were songs on this month's chart, look at how condensed the time lapses are and how he got less than 5 100s in each of these maps. Someone tell me how this is possible. Unless this person is Cookiezi's alternate or something I'm not buying this shit. He seems to be putting little to no effort to win the chart while the rest of us are actually trying to do it legitly.

That is all I have to say for now.
I have spectated him before and have seen him play. No he does NOT full combo songs on first try in ranked play. He just retries until he gets a SH. He won the last month's chart and is a really talented player. I really doubt he hacks.
But the fact that this guy is ranked in the top 40 and number 1 on this month's ranking chart [last I saw] coming out of nowhere?

I'm sorry, but that's utter bullshit. I've never even HEARD of this guy before he was reported for hacking.
SilentWings_old
You not paying not enough attention and saying stuff is bullshit without investigating the matter yourself is what I call ignorance.
Some people are talented in games. Might be a new revelation to you but some people are naturally good at osu!.

This is the cookiezi incident all over again. Go ask peppy or ask silvia to play something for you if you really doubt his skill.
Glass
All you did was watching him play a couple maps, you call that investigating? If you really want to prove that he's actually taken progress to get where he is now then show us whatever you got. "I have watched him play" doesn't cut it anymore and hasn't for a long time, I remember someone saying that they've watched moneto trying hard to get some FL records and what happens in the end? He turned out to be a cheater. It's easy as fuck to pretend to fail a song a couple times when somebody is watching just to not make yourself too obvious, even that kkhpeople person got smarter and did that when he came back with his multi this summer.

Cookiezi has been playing for over a year pretty much all day every day, his progress has been shown over time and it took way longer than just 4 months to get to where he is now. What the fuck did this Silvia guy do? He registers a new account(fyi even back on his old account he couldn't even pull off any good records, it's called morimori100, I doubt you even heared of that name.) and gets rank 50 by around September, he didn't even get any SH plays before last month, and when he finally did; he gets tons of them a day, I call bullshit on that.

Also, he could've been using moneto's method for all you know, can you tell what program he's running in the background? No. peppy PROBABLY can if osu actually reads what other processes are running.

If anyone has a log of peppy saying that this guy is legit then put it up, but I'd sooner ask him myself when I see him in-game.
~~~

Traurige Aura wrote:

tossapon wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/u/560991
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/9627

Joined: Nov 7, 2010
Last Visit: Nov 7, 2010

Cheaters... they never learn do they?
Spinner hack? (and maybe other hacks too)
Also maybe multiacc or got banned and register a new username.
Me has skills. I also use a touchscreen.
LOL

If you were using a touchscreen, your cursor wouldn't move like that.
SilentWings_old
So what did you do? Go to his profile and call him a cheater?
At least I went and saw him play songs on hidden and have seen him break near the end of songs. In fact, when he did not use hidden, the frequency in which he would full combo a song is much higher than when he is doing with hidden. Of course you wouldn't have known that because you did not care to take notice at all.

Do you believe peppy's skills to evaluate a person's legitimacy? If you do, then you know that if silvia does hack, he should be on the list of hackers, which he isn't.

There are many people who is really good without having a shit ton of plays. Look at cyclone. He must have been cheating as well then according to your logic.

Fact is, if you have speculated him and did some research before accusing him, your accusation will be much more legit. Instead, what you do is come out, disrespectfully accuse someone of hacking without any evidence.
Wishy
I know this post won't be anything relevant, but I've spected that guy a couple of times and he actually retried some maps for a while, and could saw live how he got #1 at one specific map (http://osu.ppy.sh/u/409747). I'm a newcomer here and I don't know about the "Cookiezi case" or any other stuff where a new player is incredibly good. I think it's possible that he's just a really good player with a great rythm and good reflexes. However, I don't have enough experience to give some good and solid argument to defend him, just wanted to share the little information I have about him. Hope this case gets solved.
Glass

SilentWings wrote:

So what did you do? Go to his profile and call him a cheater?
You obviously didn't check the last screen, but hey atleast I'm not trying to defend my position with empty arguments like "I have watched him".

SilentWings wrote:

At least I went and saw him play songs on hidden and have seen him break near the end of songs. In fact, when he did not use hidden, the frequency in which he would full combo a song is much higher than when he is doing with hidden. Of course you wouldn't have known that because you did not care to take notice at all.

Glass wrote:

It's easy as fuck to pretend to fail a song a couple times when somebody is watching just to not make yourself too obvious

SilentWings wrote:

Do you believe peppy's skills to evaluate a person's legitimacy? If you do, then you know that if silvia does hack, he should be on the list of hackers, which he isn't.

Glass wrote:

Also, he could've been using moneto's method for all you know, can you tell what program he's running in the background? No. peppy PROBABLY can if osu actually reads what other processes are running.
Hell, there are still people using spinner macros and getting away with it, refer to previous page.

SilentWings wrote:

There are many people who is really good without having a shit ton of plays. Look at cyclone. He must have been cheating as well then according to your logic.
Cyclone's been playing two years and he's been known for his skill, unlike this guy gets to where is he all of a sudden, funny how you're even comparing these two. Also, nowhere in my post did I mention anything about playcounts, I was pointing at how long this person has even been playing and how nobody ever even heared of him.

SilentWings wrote:

Fact is, if you have speculated him and did some research before accusing him, your accusation will be much more legit. Instead, what you do is come out, disrespectfully accuse someone of hacking without any evidence.
Doing more research? "Fact is", I went through the trouble to screenshot every single one of his chart records as a recent proof of what he's been doing. What have you done? You come in here and try to defend him with something like "i have watched him i dont think he cheats" and you're trying to say that my arguments aren't legit? So ironic.

Keep them coming, but this time try to not use the points I've already countered.

PS: lol@"he's just talented". That shit is as solid as something like "i started using a tablet so i magically got pro".
LaCreme
I'm fairly new here, so I will just leave my two cents here and then take my leave.
From my perspective, I understand Glass' accusation is well justified, but I also understand SilentWing's urge to defend this guy.
He's been getting flamed and accused for days without a proper notification of his status.
I believe it'd be best to just ask an active Japanese lurker here to ask him for a live video in game.
TBTE
In this case I agree with Glass.
He/She make more sense than SilentWings.
So SilentWings I think that you need to go get more proof before you go defending people and looking retarded.
maay
I think you guys should leave it to peppy, arguing here won't really solve anything. At this rate, at least.
He's still highly suspicious in my eyes, he became a hidden god in what, 1-2 weeks?

Anyway, I wouldn't call him a cheater for sure yet. I think something similiar happened to Sprosive a few months ago and he turned to be a fair and actually really skilled player.
Wishy

SuperMaay wrote:

I think you guys should leave it to peppy, arguing here won't really solve anything. At this rate, at least.
He's still highly suspicious in my eyes, he became a hidden god in what, 1-2 weeks?

Anyway, I wouldn't call him a cheater for sure yet. I think something similiar happened to Sprosive a few months ago and he turned to be a fair and actually really skilled player.
It's not like I'm saying this to defend this guy, but hidden is a pretty easy mod for some people, for example I suck and in some maps I see no real difference between using hidden or not. In fact it makes some maps easier (for me) since you get a longer time to react to a hit than without it (for example, I can survive longer using Hidden + HR than only HR). Of course this doesn't apply for every map, though by playing them just a couple of times you'll somehow manage to remember things you can't really see because of hidden. Just my two cents.
maay

Wishy22 wrote:

In fact it (hidden) makes some maps easier (for me) since you get a longer time to react to a hit than without it
Fine. So hidden decreases approach rate now?
Wishy
It doesn't, but the circle appears to "spawn" before with Hidden that without, since with this mod you end up clicking where's nothing, that's how I feel it. However it seem you forgot to read the first part of the post, where I mention that this would only apply to some people, and not for everyone. What I said is based in my experience, and I get that results, I think I can assume that it doens't only apply to me, it'd be really rare to be the only one (though possible).
maay
well, if you still think you can see the notes earlier with the hidden mod, fine, suit yourself. I fail at understanding your logic, though.
Zekira
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/77308&m=0

Well, I haven't looked at it myself yet, but knowing DJPop's usual Insanes, and with a BPM such as 170, I personally doubt that DoubleTiming this is even possible...
kaouji

Zekira wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/77308&m=0

Well, I haven't looked at it myself yet, but knowing DJPop's usual Insanes, and with a BPM such as 170, I personally doubt that DoubleTiming this is even possible...
Arusha Shuna

Zekira wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/77308&m=0

Well, I haven't looked at it myself yet, but knowing DJPop's usual Insanes, and with a BPM such as 170, I personally doubt that DoubleTiming this is even possible...
if 5 players can do it, then it's possible
KRZY
There is this one map with bpm190 that Rucker and Cookiezi has both DTed. I forgot what it was, but it has two 9-note 1/4 streams in it.

...nothing's impossible, eh?
Niva

Wishy22 wrote:

In fact it makes some maps easier (for me) since you get a longer time to react to a hit than without it (for example, I can survive longer using Hidden + HR than only HR).
Just saying, I feel hidden makes maps with high AR easier to play. This is especially true with Hidden + Flashlight, the 200+ notes is more visible to read with HardRock (+HardRock = AR9). With Hidden+Flashlight only, notes after 200 is somewhat invisible (although not too hard to memorize those notes though). All you need is a good reflex, and just follow the notes' trail. However:

Wishy22 wrote:

Of course this doesn't apply for every map, though by playing them just a couple of times you'll somehow manage to remember things you can't really see because of hidden.
Zekira
Never mind then.
OnosakiHito

Taiko:
Well, nothing big, just a combo that is not possible on this map.

- Ah, forgot the link: http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=54192&m=1
Piotrekol
propably FL hack user
Mr[Dm]Smoke
http://osu.ppy.sh/u/495944
all maps witch FL oO?

//edit
next day and next fresh records- all + FL
Wishy

SuperMaay wrote:

well, if you still think you can see the notes earlier with the hidden mod, fine, suit yourself. I fail at understanding your logic, though.
I'm probably wrong and the time is just the same, but when I see fast approaching circle (I mean very fast ones) I fail epicly, that's why I said that may apply to me (and therefore may apply for other people).

P.S.: Sorry for the off-topic. /ends offtopic
Mizu_banned
Ohayo~ :)
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/52922
Name: Kensei_Akio (#1 [Kyojinhei])
and
Name: lightROCK (#2 [Kyojinhei])
DIRTY SPIN CHEATERS.
Thank you. (:
SUPERMarIOwii
http://osu.ppy.sh/u/570703 :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

Ranked Score: 2,801,406,853 (#991)
Play Count: 1,344
Joined: Nov 14, 2010
Last Visit: Nov 22, 2010
Piotrekol
http://osu.ppy.sh/u/219057
Gomo Psivarh
again FL hacker?(not sure)

and multi-acc:
http://osu.ppy.sh/u/zilhueta
zilhueta
LaCreme

SUPERMarIOwii wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/u/570703 :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

Ranked Score: 2,801,406,853 (#991)
Play Count: 1,344
Joined: Nov 14, 2010
Last Visit: Nov 22, 2010
I also don't get how his in-game location is Korea
and he posts in Chinese threads.
DeathxShinigami

LaCreme wrote:

I also don't get how his in-game location is Korea
and he posts in Chinese threads.
Lol...way to mistake Korea for Japan.~
LaCreme

DeathxShinigami wrote:

LaCreme wrote:

I also don't get how his in-game location is Korea
and he posts in Chinese threads.
Lol...way to mistake Korea for Japan.~
Way to misread
Ibuki Suika

Piotrekol wrote:

propably FL hack user
Mr[Dm]Smoke
http://osu.ppy.sh/u/495944
all maps witch FL oO?

//edit
next day and next fresh records- all + FL
Gomo is a greatful FL+HD player,his paly the map with SO longlong time...
A long time ago he had a lot of the results with FL + HD
you can ask newbadapple [Hard] #2,A few days ago he request gomo paly again under his watch
Sy[K]es
Um...Yesterday I Got In "Inoue joe Closer" Beat Map By"Holyboy" #1 So..After Like An Hour It Was Saying I Don't Have A Personal Score Well You Can Check My Page It's Written ExoSphere Acheived #1 Inoue Joe Closer
Thank You.
Firo Prochainezo

ExoSphere wrote:

Um...Yesterday I Got In "Inoue joe Closer" Beat Map By"Holyboy" #1 So..After Like An Hour It Was Saying I Don't Have A Personal Score Well You Can Check My Page It's Written ExoSphere Acheived #1 Inoue Joe Closer
Thank You.
Not the right thread.
SUPERMarIOwii

LaCreme wrote:

SUPERMarIOwii wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/u/570703 :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

Ranked Score: 2,801,406,853 (#991)
Play Count: 1,344
Joined: Nov 14, 2010
Last Visit: Nov 22, 2010
I also don't get how his in-game location is Korea
and he posts in Chinese threads.
:)
LaCreme

SUPERMarIOwii wrote:

lol
That's not his "in-game" location btw, which is why I brought this up.
If you ever checked his location out in-game, it shows as "KR"
Since, no one's getting my drift and some are failing to understand simple English, I will explain what I think of this user:
- He is probably a Chinese user

- He registered using a Japanese proxy

- He is now playing games using a Korean proxy (or he might just be residing in Korea)

One thing that is clear is that he is a multi (and he responded to this before but deleted his post afterwards), so it is possible

that he was aware of the consequences of using a multi and therefore, devised a scheme to avoid IP tracing for multi-ing.

*All of them are merely speculations and there are a bunch of other scenarios that are possible.
Claudia_old
so wait, from what I gather this guy is from Korea and posts in Chinese threads?

WHAT.

- he could know both languages
- sometimes osu! doesn't find the right location for people [eg. CDFA generally shows up as Los Angeles even though she doesn't live there]
- could be what you suggested, chinese person living in korea

however you have NO proof he is a multi-accounter [you say he deleted his post but did anybody else see it?] so I highly doubt this.
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