how can touchscreen play FL ?
how to move the cursor to find notes with touchscreen ?
touchscreen is a tool one touch one hit without move,right?

can you make a video show me?

Bikko wrote:

Yeah, Touchscreen has disadvantage on sight searching, but has advantage. If you memorising as well, you can hit the note with only foresee. just be reckless.

I use grid pannel and few marker to play FL. as i know, It is legit. also, I already accused for cheating once because of FL + HD. many people don't know about this case. My account already deleted once because of this case, but revived by peppy. (I was spected by peppy.)

If you see my replays, you can find out my play style is totally different when I use FL. I often use dragging to serach for the exact position of next note(sometimes not, If I practice much)

Also, who said I use only 1 PC in FL? hm?

record a video when u r playing with your touchscreen okay?

where did you buy it?
and since you have shown your photo of your touchscreen
you are surely able to recorded a video about your playing with FL(+other mods) by your awesome touchscreen,right?
just do it and then all the questions will be clear

kaouji wrote:

how can touchscreen play FL ?
how to move the cursor to find notes with touchscreen ?
touchscreen is a tool one touch one hit without move,right?

can you make a video show me?

jamesleao wrote:

Bikko wrote:

Yeah, Touchscreen has disadvantage on sight searching, but has advantage. If you memorising as well, you can hit the note with only foresee. just be reckless.

I use grid pannel and few marker to play FL. as i know, It is legit. also, I already accused for cheating once because of FL + HD. many people don't know about this case. My account already deleted once because of this case, but revived by peppy. (I was spected by peppy.)

If you see my replays, you can find out my play style is totally different when I use FL. I often use dragging to serach for the exact position of next note(sometimes not, If I practice much)

Also, who said I use only 1 PC in FL? hm?

Crazy Jay wrote:

where did you buy it?
and since you have shown your photo of your touchscreen
you are surely able to recorded a video about your playing with FL(+other mods) by your awesome touchscreen,right?
just do it and then all the questions will be clear

record a video when u r playing with your touchscreen okay?

Oh, look what I found.

http://osu.ppy.sh/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=5985&p=410107#p410107

hybrid579 wrote:

Oh, look what I found.

http://osu.ppy.sh/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=5985&p=410107#p410107

It can proof nothing.

Well, the screen shot shows Bikko's touchscreen and as for Crazy Jay's question, here is the model for the touchscreen he uses.

http://www.hwayoungs.com/sub/product01_1.html


What more proof do you want?

Edit: Oh, by the way. This will explain about the cursor movement.

Bikko wrote:

when using touchscreen, cursor dosen't move until I touching or dragging.
so cursor can not show my finger moving perfectly.
in fact, I use my own skin with 1X1 invisible cursor. I don't need visible cursor until i have calibration problem.

If you found somthing similrar in my replays, that is my play style. just that.
and you can spectating me anytimes. and you''ll see always same things. a teleporting cursor. It's very natural phenomenon on touchscreen playing.

Oh guys please stop, he already spoken with Peppy, so he doesn't need to explain you again ~

HE ISN'T A CHEATER and has already been established

he, though needs to get a counter to keep track of how much times people accused him of cheating :D

Thank you loweh. but I want try to convince them. so, I write this post.


Unfortunately I don't have any device to record the video thing. I think, you say very easiliy 'just do it', but I can't make that kind of video. and I can't believe who accused for cheating can makes that kind of video always.

I did upload a poor quality picture of me in the past, but even that was difficult to me. I was borrow it from my friend, but I can not contact with that friend right now. and as I know he don't have camcorder thing either.

http://user.chol.com/~dynamiteneon/00/r ... raijin.zip

but I try to show something with effort. yeah, I don't have camcorder but I can record live video when I actually play the map. in this video, I show you my system administrator and what application in my memory (macroing, some application to cheat, anything, if there is something application possible to use cheat(in fact, I don't know about this much), plz send me PM, then I remake this video without that application. or I'll send you that file to analysis), and play the map with FL. it was very laggy so I couldn't make it FC in short time. but as I think, this record cleary show if I'm in my best condition I can make good result.

(I'll expalin some applications. DTLite.exe = daemontool, for CD image, wc11sta.exe = management for USB lancard, RTHDCPL.exe = Realtek HD Audio)

and I think, many one don't pay attention about a fact, I was spectated by peppy accidentally. as I know, It is a one of way to proof someone is a cheater or not. If I use cheat, I was purged in that moment instead revived. Please think about this.

deepsea wrote:

1.peppy can prove a player cheat or not cheat just through spec, this is much more convincing than all of our "common sense".

As I know, This Thread is not for argument. I'm very sorry about this happening. so, I'll stop here. but If I need to peppy's spectating again to proof my innocent, I can cleary say. I'm always ready.

LirsRosso wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/s/16792
#1 5,213,860 96.60% Bikko 536 316 / 17 / 0 27 15 0 Hidden,HardRock,Flashlight

http://osu.ppy.sh/s/17394
#1 10,466,441 96.79% Bikko 734 415 / 21 / 0 68 13 0 Flashlight

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/48437
#1 10,299,537 95.14% Bikko 793 496 / 39 / 0 69 21 0 Flashlight

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/62523
#1 5,869,761 98.69% Bikko 621 349 / 7 / 0 53 5 0 Flashlight

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/62408
#1 15,610,587 99.03% Bikko 770 543 / 8 / 0 119 8 0 Hidden,Flashlight

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/34045
#2 12,827,560 98.77% Bikko 830 478 / 9 / 0 70 9 0 Flashlight


http://osu.ppy.sh/index.php?p=song&b=40894
#1 7,008,401 97.86% Bikko 552 422 / 14 / 0 73 8 0 Hidden,Flashlight


a corner of the iceberg

Bikko accused of cheating, AGAIN?
AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA

ah... the wonders of touchmaster ~w~

The post to end ALL arguments about Bikko.

As a #korean moderator, I understand that I have no say about whether a player is cheating or not; that is up to the admins, not me.

However, I didn't become an irc moderator for nothing. I was recommended for the post because I was deemed reasonable, reliable, and responsible.

With that in mind, Bikko live-streamed himself playing osu! through afreeca.com, an internet broadcasting site in Korea. He showed me how he had no other processes running except osu!, afreeca player, and other necessities (wi-fi support, etc.), and then played this map with Hidden, HardRock, and Flashlight. He did not FC the song, but after watching three plays, I was totally convinced that his records are the result of his practice and skill, not cheating.

If you still think this is not enough and think I was fooled by Bikko, PM me and we will have a nice long discussion about it.

Lastly, I would like to stress that Bikko has already been cleared by none other than peppy himself. If you think you are better than peppy at telling if a player is cheating or not, go apply for an admin or something. I'm suyre peppy will be pleased to let you in the team.

I feel bad about posting this in this thread, this thread has been misused too much. However, I felt I had to say something.

For those who didn't understand,

STOP ACCUSING BIKKO, HE IS AS LEGIT AS YOU ARE. JUST CUZ YOU CAN'T DO IT DOESN'T MEAN EVERYONE ELSE CAN'T.



p.s.

Bikko wrote:

http://user.chol.com/~dynamiteneon/00/r ... raijin.zip

this link leads to two videos of bikko playing with flashlight (+various other modes). if you're so suspicious, watch.

Bikko has already been spectated by peppy and proofed that he is not a cheater.
Please stop arguing about it in this thread. Any more allegations against him in this thread will be deleted.

I have spec peppy playing with his touchscreen several month ago,so,don't take it seriously
I just can't understand how to play with FL mod by touchscreen (have no chance to touch it :_;)(hid hardrock is quite easy with touchscreen)

Crazy Jay wrote:

I have spec peppy playing with his touchscreen several month ago,so,don't take it seriously
I just can't understand how to play with FL mod by touchscreen (have no chance to touch it :_;)(hid hardrock is quite easy with touchscreen)

touch screen seems useful but expensive

-TAIKO-
New hacker found? Just look this, Rokodo is a great taiko player... But ddrddr125 look used cheat, he got more combos than Rokodo... And Rokodo not have misses (always when I send some hacker/glitch image, I put the second with the 0 misses combo, and full combo, for compare):



The scoreboard: http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=8498&m=1

Thanks

^

Neo Adonis wrote:

^

?

Also, someone comment about the Doubt Troust I sent some days ago?
EDIT: I just saw, and the hacker gone...

Two wrong scores found

1st : Flyleaf - The Kind [Intense]

Replay shows that Cyborg barely ranks inside #40 with 5.3 million-ish score. However, his score is recorded as 6.8 million. A glitch in the algorithm maybe?

2nd: The Legend of Zelda - The Wind Waker - Molgera [Insane] (Taiko)

Again, replay shows that ddrddr125 has only 381 combos with a score of 416,XXX. Probably an error occured while the score was being submitted.

Fix please~ XD



Oh and btw ddrddr125 is VERY pro too. Try multiplaying with him sometime.

DJ KRZY wrote:

Two wrong scores found

1st : Flyleaf - The Kind [Intense]

SPOILER

Replay shows that Cyborg barely ranks inside #40 with 5.3 million-ish score. However, his score is recorded as 6.8 million. A glitch in the algorithm maybe?

2nd: The Legend of Zelda - The Wind Waker - Molgera [Insane] (Taiko)

SPOILER

Again, replay shows that ddrddr125 has only 381 combos with a score of 416,XXX. Probably an error occured while the score was being submitted.

Fix please~ XD



Oh and btw ddrddr125 is VERY pro too. Try multiplaying with him sometime.

I already report the molgera..... I think it don't really need upload again...
Look at the same page

I found one in a taiko mod

lookhttp://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=54372&m=1
#6 236,365 58.70% Starbreeze 19 24 / 33 / 0 0 0 12 HardRock,HalfTime

how can a D rank win a S rank with HR+1/2spd and 12 misses
It's strange

http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=1147&m=1

I know marisa[hard] #1 is strange for long time
but i just wanna say it again
human's hand cant do like that fast
even youngdow MM and rokodo cant do

Karta, this score is absolutely legit, I've just beaten it with D grade as well. (not kanpu one ofc, the second one :p)

1miko1 wrote:

Karta, this score is absolutely legit, I've just beaten it with D grade as well. (not kanpu one ofc, the second one :p)

It's possible, the slider is always do 300, so there are maps with lots of sliders...
I beat one... I got S Silver with halftime... Isn't glitch or something... But you can do a big combo on the sliders

This really looks right?



http://osu.ppy.sh/s/6066
Diff: Bidoof Only...[Taiko]
The first place has 4 misses.... And is leading

gabrielwoj wrote:

This really looks right?


http://osu.ppy.sh/s/6066
Diff: Bidoof Only...[Taiko]
The first place has 4 misses.... And is leading

If I'm not blind it looks like Chipi-X isn't double hitting the big notes and DarkStoorm is so the score makes perfect sense =P

Nekoo[] wrote:

gabrielwoj wrote:

This really looks right?


http://osu.ppy.sh/s/6066
Diff: Bidoof Only...[Taiko]
The first place has 4 misses.... And is leading

If I'm not blind it looks like Chipi-X isn't double hitting the big notes and DarkStoorm is so the score makes perfect sense =P

That makes sense...
I didn't watched the replay, I was time to get out on pc XD

#11 osu apple

Mod : None

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/57661

[-R-] wrote:

SPOILER

#11 osu apple

Mod : None

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/57661

Maybe he's a spinning God XD (/me runs)

idk would have to watch the replay but that looks very suspicious

[-R-] wrote:

SPOILER

#11 osu apple

Mod : None

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/57661

spinning god!

[-R-] wrote:

SPOILER

#11 osu apple

Mod : None

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/57661

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/45611

#26 osu apple Mod:HR why just a HR can win HR+HID or DT mode?
How did he spin?

1miko1 wrote:

Karta, this score is absolutely legit, I've just beaten it with D grade as well. (not kanpu one ofc, the second one :p)

ok.I know:D thank u:3

http://osu.ppy.sh/u/409747

Joined: Jul 8, 2010
Last Visit: Jul 27, 2010

LirsRosso wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/u/409747

Joined: Jul 8, 2010
Last Visit: Jul 27, 2010

looooooooooool

Download it if you don't have, and then replay suinagis game.
After the 104 hitcirlce you can see the miss of sunagi.
Well, I think it's just a bug from osu!... because suinagi seams to be one of the best players...
Maybe, make your own opinion?

-> http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=39317&m=1

Greetings.

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/40017

#1 Zealot_Fenix (Previously known as hyt103)

can you make a video?

OnosakiHito wrote:

Download it if you don't have, and then replay suinagis game.
After the 104 hitcirlce you can see the miss of sunagi.
Well, I think it's just a bug from osu!... because suinagi seams to be one of the best players...
Maybe, make your own opinion?

-> http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=39317&m=1

Greetings.

You're right, that's the bug of replay.

Ashley Tisdale & Lucas Grabeel - Bop to the Top
[The Bottom] diff Taiko mod #1...


Well... I played without any hack but...
Replay shows misses even that's FC data ;_;

kaouji wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/40017

#1 Zealot_Fenix (Previously known as hyt103)

can you make a video?

stop talking about hyt shit in this tread >_>

hi, http://osu.ppy.sh/u/444347 in 3 days. he ranked on hard beatmap
strange and he join.
Aug 3, 2010
Aug 6, 2010

boss2626 wrote:

hi, http://osu.ppy.sh/u/444347 in 3 days. he ranked on hard beatmap
strange and he join.
Aug 3, 2010
Aug 6, 2010

SPOILER

what a coincidence, I just've asked KRZY to check him

Lol.

I have my reasons for multi. But okay, yes i'm this guy

ok