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Mystearica
Mystearica
Yeah kkh is macroing again. He JUST came online and right away this happens:

http://www.fate-testarossa.com/images/kkh.jpg (1920x1200 resolution so watch out)

Ok, I don't care how much he practises offline or whatever his excuse may be, coming online right away and then getting #2 on Easy (all mods enabled so HR/FL/DT/Hid) and #1 on Normal (HR + FL + Hid), both scores were first runs. And this is exactly what was happening with Shinde's post up there too. You can't seriously believe this is legit.

He's being smart now though, he's getting his SS runs or normal runs without Flashlight/Hidden on Spun Out or offline so we can't save his normal replay to compare against his Flashlight/Hidden, though with all this pile of evidence here why's he still around?
Zekira
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Zekira
Oh wow I actually saw my name somewhere here lol.
Mittenz, the reason for this is because of the insane number of big notes. You are missing a lot of points by hitting all of them as singles. Also, most of *keysmash name*'s 100s are on the early part, but he hits almost all the big notes as doubles. If only I could count how many big notes there were, I could calculate the exact amount of points lost. See the enormous difference in our scores? The difference between me and *keysmash* is 40k because of the accuracy, while yours and mine are 80k points apart even with almost the same acc. because of you lacking points in big notes. For an easier comparison, each big note you hit as a single note can be equivalent to 100ing that note. (but I must agree that *keysmash* does not deserve to be in top 10 :\ I'm almost tempted to go back to Taiko rankings just to lessen the number of people that are abusing their free time to get through the ranks.)

Also, moving on to the next matter, I could somehow tell that replays on Taiko are still a bit faulty (not sure why though), as I've seen some of my replays go LKSJDGNOEg too even if I FCed the song. I can't remember which, though... I just really know that there are some replays that are screwed. Because I really don't believe that NatsumeRin is doing it illegally.

inb4someonetriestoditchmeonthisone
Sir Minelli
524 posts
Joined September 2008
Sir Minelli
Disturbia Paranoia.

Even though I didn't miss or get a 100 at the end of a slider, the score screen will not show "Perfect"

http://osu.ppy.sh/s/5399
awp
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Here since the beginning
awp
Noriyuki Iwadare - Elise Deauxnim - Simple Melody http://osu.ppy.sh/s/8017
14:31 < Pulsje> Normal number 1 mtn1

I haven't confirmed this myself but I'll just leave it here.
Lybydose
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Lybydose

awp wrote:

Noriyuki Iwadare - Elise Deauxnim - Simple Melody http://osu.ppy.sh/s/8017
14:31 < Pulsje> Normal number 1 mtn1

I haven't confirmed this myself but I'll just leave it here.
This too: http://osu.ppy.sh/b/34527

His cursor just sits exactly in the center and spins 477.
Chozx
Chozx
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Gabi
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Joined December 2008
Gabi

Pulsje wrote:

awp wrote:

Noriyuki Iwadare - Elise Deauxnim - Simple Melody http://osu.ppy.sh/s/8017
14:31 < Pulsje> Normal number 1 mtn1

I haven't confirmed this myself but I'll just leave it here.
Thx AWP for posting

Its kinda weird
How he spins (i think its crealy hackz)
mtn1 is no longer in ranking charts on Noriyuki Iwadare - Elise Deauxnim - Simple Melody i see
i vaguely quote peppy "his account will be gone in 10" and "kill mtn1" :P XD
MegaManEXE
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MegaManEXE
Not really a score in particular but I had to notice this guy since he just passed me in rankings out of nowhere: http://osu.ppy.sh/u/161009

Apparently he just got +50 rank within the past day or so since the green up arrow has a 50 next to it, at this amount of score +50 in a day is pretty hard, though not impossible I guess.

I've been at my current rank for a while now so I know pretty much everyone who's on the second page of rankings and I've never seen this guy at all before, he definitely came out of nowhere.

What strikes me more is his 3800 playcount and he's in the top 100? Looks a lot like a multi to me...
Rena-chan
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Kytoxid
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Kytoxid
LQX:

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/40783

On normal and hard, his mouse is vibrating in the centre for 470+ RPM.

I then went and looked at several of his other replays, and the same phenomenon appears. For example, #6 here:

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/31014
Fragrant iris
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Fragrant iris

Kytoxid wrote:

LQX:

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/40783

On normal and hard, his mouse is vibrating in the centre for 470+ RPM.

I then went and looked at several of his other replays, and the same phenomenon appears. For example, #6 here:

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/31014

How he spins ??
Kytoxid
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Kytoxid

Fragrant iris wrote:

Kytoxid wrote:

LQX:

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/40783

On normal and hard, his mouse is vibrating in the centre for 470+ RPM.

I then went and looked at several of his other replays, and the same phenomenon appears. For example, #6 here:

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/31014

How he spins ??
I think it's a bot.
Lesjuh
Elite Mapper
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Joined October 2008
Lesjuh
fripSide - only my railgun (TV Size) [Insane]
http://osu.ppy.sh/forum/viewtopic.php?t=19022

On #1 on [Insane] it says S Rank with H + FL. Nearly the end I saw him miss in the replay though but it Osu! doesn't show any misses on the leaderboard. I watched the replay two times but I still clearly saw him miss.
Derekku
COOL DUDE
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Derekku
I'm not sure about some of these older songs...

http://osu.ppy.sh/s/31 Scores #1 and #3 are from old players using no mods (and no replays available either), while newer scores with mods can't beat those scores. I'm assuming they're scores from the old spinner algorithm that were never cleared =x

EDIT: Yeah, a lot of old songs still have older scores with the old algorithms. I thought that they were deleted before, but oh well.
arkiandruski
31 posts
Joined February 2009
arkiandruski
Another old map:

http://osu.ppy.sh/s/65

Scores 1-3 have no mods and beat someone who got a perfect score with Hard Rock, Flashlight, and Double Time. Third place even beat him with an A rank. The map has no spinners.
Kytoxid
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Kytoxid

arkiandruski wrote:

Another old map:

http://osu.ppy.sh/s/65

Scores 1-3 have no mods and beat someone who got a perfect score with Hard Rock, Flashlight, and Double Time. Third place even beat him with an A rank. The map has no spinners.
Seems like the map or scoring algorithm was changed and those scores weren't deleted.
Lybydose
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Lybydose
Since we're on the topic of old maps, I guess I'll add these:

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/16621 - The "Easy" difficulty currently has a max combo of 347, but old scores all have 399
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/16313 - I don't know what the problem is here, but the #1 score on "Face the Noise" is higher than what the replay actually gets. (again, old score)
Derekku
COOL DUDE
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Derekku
If I have time tomorrow I'll skim through this topic and see what I can find about the old scores. =x
Chozx
Chozx
Nightcore - Pinball [Madness O_O]
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/7930

Player : Betty [ATM Rank 5]
Rank : B
Score : 4.151.046 Combo 514
300: 377 100: 37 50 : 8 Miss : 4 No Mods


Player : Hanyuu [ATM Rank 6]
Rank : S
Score : 3.397.678 Combo 417
300 : 390 100: 36 50: 0 Miss : 0 No Mods


Betty Hacks , Or is it the Combo?????

Gabi
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Joined December 2008
Gabi
uh wtf pulsje.................................... Hanyuu slider broke only, and Betty got higher combo then him there is no "hacks" in this.
Gopice
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Joined December 2008
Gopice
pulsje..

That score is not suspicious in the least. In osu! (unlike taiko) combo count matters more than most.
Chozx
Chozx
oke

Then i just know it ;)

Thx
RoyTheDragon
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Joined September 2009
RoyTheDragon
Pirates' island Vs. boss on taiko (#1)
Derekku
COOL DUDE
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Derekku
Yeah, I think old scores were supposed to be wiped, but I'm not positive. :|
Noobita
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Joined June 2009
Noobita
http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=40034&m=1

#1

suinagi is not a hacker but the score is ridiculous + in the replay he misses a lot yet it says 0 misses

also,

http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=24550&m=1

#1
Shulin
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Joined August 2009
Shulin

Noobita wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=40034&m=1

#1

suinagi is not a hacker but the score is ridiculous + in the replay he misses a lot yet it says 0 misses

also,

http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=24550&m=1

#1
What makes you think that? I don't think I've seen a replay without the aforementioned "bug" from this guy. It's strange that it only seems to affect certain people, but yeah the taiko replays you mentioned are bugged.
Lybydose
osu! Alumni
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Lybydose
I'm pretty sure this guy is botting: http://osu.ppy.sh/u/176006

He's been playing U.N. Owen non-stop and his CTB character always moves in the exact same manner every try. He catches the first 119 fruits and then fails and starts again.

Also, 11876 plays on Dragostea Din Tei, failing at the same spot every single time (check the Point of Failure graph).
Arusha Shuna
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Joined August 2009
Arusha Shuna
ok i'm being honest to myself but my score and rank doesn't match with the replay

SPOILER
SPOILER

maybe sum1 can delete the replay data? i want to keep a clean profile.
and no, i DONT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT CHEATING, HACKING, MACROS OR STUFF THAT CAN AFFECT MY OSU! SCORES.
im just a plain old 15 year old boy :(
Derekku
COOL DUDE
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Derekku

Lybydose wrote:

I'm pretty sure this guy is botting: http://osu.ppy.sh/u/176006

He's been playing U.N. Owen non-stop and his CTB character always moves in the exact same manner every try. He catches the first 119 fruits and then fails and starts again.

Also, 11876 plays on Dragostea Din Tei, failing at the same spot every single time (check the Point of Failure graph).
21 hours ago - Shannaro unlocked the "15,000 Plays (osu! mode)" achievement!
Now - Play Count: 17,832

lol whoring play counts.
ZomfgLOLlipop
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Joined September 2009
ZomfgLOLlipop
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/4316
Taboo Tears you up [Lunatic] Taiko Mode
Player: Youngdow

says he had full combo but missed one note

have an eye on him, because i can give a few songs, where he doesn't have full combo, eventhough it says in his stats.

Plus, i think he hacks or cheats, because he plays on some of the replays only hitting both orange or both blue notes at the same time, and very short ones is he hitting the left one always and the right one sometimes, good view on...

http://osu.ppy.sh/s/7084
The Youkai Mountain [Insane] Taiko Mode
Player: Youngdow

especially here, he looses like 5 notes, eventhough he has in his final stats full combo

he got one or two weeks ago place 1 on a lot of songs, these two included...
Zekira
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Joined September 2008
Zekira
youngdow is NOT suspicious in any way -- I've seen him play in person and he's one of the few Taikogods to exist in the entire world. osu!Taiko is no exception; it's just that some of the Taiko replays get screwed up (dunno why) and eventually shows misses.
Gens
osu! Alumni
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Gens

Lybydose wrote:

I'm pretty sure this guy is botting: http://osu.ppy.sh/u/176006

He's been playing U.N. Owen non-stop and his CTB character always moves in the exact same manner every try. He catches the first 119 fruits and then fails and starts again.

Also, 11876 plays on Dragostea Din Tei, failing at the same spot every single time (check the Point of Failure graph).

Most Played Beatmaps wrote:

19370 plays - O-Zone - Dragostea Din Tei (Taiko Cut) [TaikOsu-Futsuu]
Oh god, it's still increasing.
So that's why it was Most played for a short period, huh?
Shannaro
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Shannaro
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Cyclone
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Cyclone
Nice try, but the playcount does not increase until a certain amount of the way into the song. Meaning if you just hit the first few notes, and retry, it does not count as a play.

19k plays for 1 week is fucking ridiculous. I've been playing this game for like 16 months now, and i don't even have 15k plays yet.
Shannaro
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Joined October 2009
Shannaro

Cyclone wrote:

Nice try, but the playcount does not increase until a certain amount of the way into the song. Meaning if you just hit the first few notes, and retry, it does not count as a play.

19k plays for 1 week is fucking ridiculous. I've been playing this game for like 16 months now, and i don't even have 15k plays yet.
Few hits + retry = increase playcount. I did like this many many times. About 5 seconds to each play. Hour by hour. If you have free time, you may increase your playcount like me, but it's foolish. I stop this crap because my eyes and right hand paining. I'm 13 years old, i'm fuckin' idiot. :cry:
Kytoxid
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Kytoxid

Shannaro wrote:

Cyclone wrote:

Nice try, but the playcount does not increase until a certain amount of the way into the song. Meaning if you just hit the first few notes, and retry, it does not count as a play.

19k plays for 1 week is fucking ridiculous. I've been playing this game for like 16 months now, and i don't even have 15k plays yet.
Few hits + retry = increase playcount. I did like this many many times. About 5 seconds to each play. Hour by hour. If you have free time, you may increase your playcount like me, but it's foolish. I stop this crap because my eyes and right hand paining. I'm 13 years old, i'm fuckin' idiot. :cry:
Five seconds?

The chart shows that the fails occurred 20 seconds through or so. With 19k plays, that's about 105 hours of consecutive playing, averaging out to 15 hours a day, straight, with no breaks in between.

I'd say that's pretty ridiculous for a human player, but pretty reasonable for a bot if you leave the computer on during your waking hours.
Shannaro
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Joined October 2009
Shannaro
Five seconds?

The chart shows that the fails occurred 20 seconds through or so. With 19k plays, that's about 105 hours of consecutive playing, averaging out to 15 hours a day, straight, with no breaks in between.
Of cource i played with double-time mod for save time. And push skip-button. And i tried once again with stopwatch and result 7 seconds.
I'd say that's pretty ridiculous for a human player, but pretty reasonable for a bot if you leave the computer on during your waking hours.
I'm just computer games nerd. My record is more than 36 hours of playing in Lineage without sleep and food. I didn't use bot. I don't even know where is it take. And what for?
Cyclone
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Cyclone
It's funny how your story slightly changes with each post.
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Scar
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