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hi m4m ( ´ ▽ ` )ノツ
noob at modding, and include personal feeling, so comfortably read my opinion.
If my modding affect your style, feel free to ignore :)


General

simply quite ambiguous problem, is it ok that use finisher at the end of 1/4 stream.
i really like to use it, but some people also dislike it.
it's the one way to delete last one stream note like 00:41:867 (396) .

Hell Oni

00:42:845 (405,406,407,408) - no fitting 1/6 sound in here. maybe the only fitting sound is vocal? but then, 00:48:062 (461,462,463,464) - seems awkward. how about use only 1 circle in 00:42:845 so that save the feeling of staccato? it also can be the little rest-time and can arouse another feeling. same 00:48:062 -

00:53:714 (523) - k? melody is goin down at here, but just 0.5 flat, so seems not awkward to me. also the smooth play with 00:53:932 (525) - this finisher.

00:56:132 (541,542,543,544,545) - d k d d K? same reason ^

01:04:692 (605) - k. high snare sound.

01:15:778 (691,692,693,694,695,696,697,698,699,700,701) - continuing stream with fill the empty place? basic pattern kdddddkdddddkddd so that follow vocal. and if you accept this, maybe it's more better to delete each one circle at the start and end stream.

02:38:110 (1537) - here, little not matched with music. delayed vocal? my opinion is https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8199694 so that delayed sound can smoothly play.

03:34:147 - is have special reason not to put circle?

from 03:47:077 (2230) to 03:50:826 (2268) - seems little different pattern consistency against before.

04:33:378 (2656,2657,2658,2659,2660,2661,2662,2663) - drum has more potential sound. like kkddkddd?



very smooth pattern, and appropriate pattern makes me fun while playing and modding xD
go rank hurry :D
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Hey hopefully this is a good mod

This map is really Good love it
Can't wait to see how far this goes :D
but all these katkatkat patterns Scare me xd

Great song and map Good luck with everything so here is my mod
sorry if its to short :<


00:38:443 (358,359,360) - would recommend to be k and (361) to be a don
this way it goes with the vocal and song better

01:39:744 (959) - Make this a k and (962) a don, goes much better

01:40:478 (968) - Make this a don and (970) a k, tho could work either way so u can chose not todo this one if u dont want this change

03:34:147 - add a Circle here, would recommend k should be fine since it is 1/3s patterns?

04:50:177 (2844, 2845) - use Ctrl+G on them

04:51:073 (2855) - Would sound better as k? so pattern would be kkdkkk instead of kkdkkd

00:48:062 (461,462,463,464) - 1/6s isn't really neccesary here

01:05:670 (613) - Change this to a don cuz it sounds out of place since (614,615) are also k but those two are fine

01:06:648 (619) - you could change this to don and (621) to k (opinion)
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404 AccNotFound wrote:

hi m4m ( ´ ▽ ` )ノツ
noob at modding, and include personal feeling, so comfortably read my opinion.
If my modding affect your style, feel free to ignore :)


General

simply quite ambiguous problem, is it ok that use finisher at the end of 1/4 stream.
i really like to use it, but some people also dislike it.
it's the one way to delete last one stream note like 00:41:867 (396) . :arrow:It's allowed, the song is 180 bpm and the stream ending finishers I used are only ddddK or kkkkD, i can hit them even i am an index finger player.

Hell Oni

00:42:845 (405,406,407,408) - no fitting 1/6 sound in here. maybe the only fitting sound is vocal? but then, 00:48:062 (461,462,463,464) - seems awkward. how about use only 1 circle in 00:42:845 so that save the feeling of staccato? it also can be the little rest-time and can arouse another feeling. same 00:48:062 - :arrow:Followed guitar at that spot, and it's in 1/6.

00:53:714 (523) - k? melody is goin down at here, but just 0.5 flat, so seems not awkward to me. also the smooth play with 00:53:932 (525) - this finisher. :arrow:00:53:605 (522,524) - These two guitar sounds are the same and the middle one is lower. So i'll keep it.

00:56:132 (541,542,543,544,545) - d k d d K? same reason ^ :arrow:I wanted to use D as finishers because the guitar sound is lower compared to
00:53:932 (525) - this one and the way I did is the best way to play it comfortably.


01:04:692 (605) - k. high snare sound. :arrow:I didn't hear it.

01:15:778 (691,692,693,694,695,696,697,698,699,700,701) - continuing stream with fill the empty place? basic pattern kdddddkdddddkddd so that follow vocal. and if you accept this, maybe it's more better to delete each one circle at the start and end stream. :arrow:This map is already full of streams.
I don't want to map it entirely as streams just because of the drums.


02:38:110 (1537) - here, little not matched with music. delayed vocal? my opinion is https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8199694 so that delayed sound can smoothly play. :arrow:The vocal is a bit delayed, yeah. But the drum sound is coming fine so i'll not change it.

03:34:147 - is have special reason not to put circle? :arrow:Yes, i didn't want to start with Ddd even if they are coming in 1/3.

from 03:47:077 (2230) to 03:50:826 (2268) - seems little different pattern consistency against before. :arrow:You are right on this one, changed some spots.

04:33:378 (2656,2657,2658,2659,2660,2661,2662,2663) - drum has more potential sound. like kkddkddd? :arrow:Not really, monocolor stream sounds fine because of the low pitch vocals.



very smooth pattern, and appropriate pattern makes me fun while playing and modding xD Thank you!
go rank hurry :DI hope i will.
Thank you so much for the mod~

[-TSG-] wrote:

Hey hopefully this is a good mod

This map is really Good love it Thank you!
Can't wait to see how far this goes :D
but all these katkatkat patterns Scare me xd Haha i know, but some of them are intentional.

Great song and map Good luck with everything so here is my mod
sorry if its to short :<


00:38:443 (358,359,360) - would recommend to be k and (361) to be a don
this way it goes with the vocal and song better :arrow:Sounds good, applied.

01:39:744 (959) - Make this a k and (962) a don, goes much better :arrow:Yeah, okay. Nice idea actually, it fits the rest of the stream too.

01:40:478 (968) - Make this a don and (970) a k, tho could work either way so u can chose not todo this one if u dont want this change :arrow:It sounds better this way for me.

03:34:147 - add a Circle here, would recommend k should be fine since it is 1/3s patterns? :arrow:I know there is a sound but as in structure a 1/3 break is better in my opinion.

04:50:177 (2844, 2845) - use Ctrl+G on them :arrow:I fixed all of the kiai parts to remain consistency.

04:51:073 (2855) - Would sound better as k? so pattern would be kkdkkk instead of kkdkkd :arrow:I think it's overemphasizing,
didn't sound good to me.


00:48:062 (461,462,463,464) - 1/6s isn't really neccesary here :arrow:I used before, in 00:42:845 (405,406,407,408) - because on both spots the guitar sounds are in 1/6.

01:05:670 (613) - Change this to a don cuz it sounds out of place since (614,615) are also k but those two are fine :arrow:Makes sense, applied.

01:06:648 (619) - you could change this to don and (621) to k (opinion) :arrow:I followed vocals like i did before, in 01:03:877 (600,601,602,603)
Thank you so much for your mod~ Will mod your map in a week, because i have exams this week, sorry :(
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Found out I had a bit of time before leaving for Englandl, so I decided to take a quick look at your map and look for general things before getting into a full mod if still desired.
Generally I focus on structure, readability and consistency.

Main points;
-Finishers after 1/4th streams should be used rarely if at all; especially not in abundance. Look for workarounds, such as removing the note before the finisher or reworking the pattern. Even if they are physically playable, they put a lot of density in the map (often unnecessarily so). I'd suggest -only- using them in a buildup towards the chorus if ever.

-Kats before a kat on a downbeat. Builds up anticipation (it's a leading-tone); should not be used often, especially in metal where beats are generally very straightforward.
-For instance,
-01:14:392 (675) -
-01:19:935 (737) -
-01:29:065 (833) -
-This, in combination with heavy usage of a [kkkd] pattern in general, makes reading way tougher than it should be (as well as not having a good structure/organized sound to it).
-Example; 01:36:646 (921) - and 01:37:461 (931) - look similar initially but are fundamentally different due to down-/upbeat structure.

-Lack of structure in parts that build up;
-Example, 00:20:999 (188) - 00:31:433 (287), no real structure on the way dons/kats are built up on the down- and upbeats.
-In general, there is not a lot of structure on how the map is built on the downbeat/upbeat. Dons and kats are interchangeably used on the first note of a bar without a clear reason. Then again, this may be a result of the next point;

-You tend to shift between mapping to the drums and the melody at times, which makes the map lack overall structure. Incidental switching is fine, but generally I would suggest sticking to one or the other.

I can provide more insight on these points later on, as well as make a full mod out of it. Hopefully this little writeup did help out a little as-is.
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Pheon wrote:

Found out I had a bit of time before leaving for Englandl, so I decided to take a quick look at your map and look for general things before getting into a full mod if still desired.
Generally I focus on structure, readability and consistency.

Main points;
-Finishers after 1/4th streams should be used rarely if at all; especially not in abundance. Look for workarounds, such as removing the note before the finisher or reworking the pattern. Even if they are physically playable, they put a lot of density in the map (often unnecessarily so). I'd suggest -only- using them in a buildup towards the chorus if ever. :arrow:Actually this is a good idea. Removing the previous note after finishers make the flow better, so i'm gonna delete most of them. Except the last one :3

-Kats before a kat on a downbeat. Builds up anticipation (it's a leading-tone); should not be used often, especially in metal where beats are generally very straightforward.
-For instance,
-01:14:392 (675) -
-01:19:935 (737) -
-01:29:065 (833) -
-This, in combination with heavy usage of a [kkkd] pattern in general, makes reading way tougher than it should be (as well as not having a good structure/organized sound to it).
-Example; 01:36:646 (921) - and 01:37:461 (931) - look similar initially but are fundamentally different due to down-/upbeat structure. :arrow:About this: Yeah. It may not fit the music very well or could hard to read, but if i map only onbeat sounds with kats, i have to map it the entire song like that and it'll be boring eventually. I tried keeping consistency on offbeat kat notes so the player will get used to it while playing the map.

-Lack of structure in parts that build up;
-Example, 00:20:999 (188) - 00:31:433 (287), no real structure on the way dons/kats are built up on the down- and upbeats.
-In general, there is not a lot of structure on how the map is built on the downbeat/upbeat. Dons and kats are interchangeably used on the first note of a bar without a clear reason. I changed these patterns to create a better flow. Then again, this may be a result of the next point;

-You tend to shift between mapping to the drums and the melody at times, which makes the map lack overall structure. Incidental switching is fine, but generally I would suggest sticking to one or the other. :arrow:My style about mapping these kinds of songs is, I mostly follow the drums and on the drum notes, at certain places I wrote guitar notes on them, in that way they emphasize drums and guitar together. Sometimes, instead of guitar, it can be bass sounds or vocals. But sticking at only one instrument will destroy the good flow. For example, if I stick with drums on kiai time only, I need to map it kdddkdddkddd or something. If I stick with guitar I need to map long sliders which will not fit the part. So, I mostly combine the instruments on the song.

I can provide more insight on these points later on, as well as make a full mod out of it. Hopefully this little writeup did help out a little as-is. It was helpful, I improved some of the patterns thanks to you :)
Thank you for your mod, and I will check your map in 2 or 3 days.
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Uykum var amk

[Cehennem Şeytan]
  • inb4 oni türkçede şeytan demek :v
  1. 00:05:348 - Overmapi sevmediğine göre burada bazı kısımlarda bateri sesi yok.Bateriyi gözden geçir.
  2. 00:09:913 (84,85,86,87,88,89,90) - Burada yapmaya çalıştığın şeyi tam olarak anlayamadım.Bateriyi takip ettiysen tüm sesler aynı.Ama ben gitarı takip ettim diyorsan 00:09:913 (84,85) - burası low pitch,00:10:076 (86,87,88,89) - burada nota inceliyor ve 00:10:402 (90) - Burada gitar sakinleşiyor.Yani eğer bateriyi takip ettiysen kkkkkkk patternini,gitarı takip ettiysen ddkkkkd patternini öneririm.Bu pattern gerçekten çok kötü duruyor.
  3. 00:13:173 (110) - Buradaki bateri sesini kat notaları ile belirtmişsin,burada finisher olması birazcık tutarsız değil mi sence?Variety ile alakası yok bunun.
  4. 00:19:695 - Uzun uzun yazmayayım,ben "Bateri sesi daha farklı" diyeyim sen anla.
  5. 00:22:955 (205) - Daha temiz bir flow ve oradaki bateri sesinden dolayı kat kullanmanı öneriyorum.
  6. 00:32:085 (290,291,292,293,294,295,296) - Buradaki ilk iki vokal sesi high-low şeklinde gittiği için kkdkddk patterninin uygun olduğunu düşünüyorum.Yani CTRL+G yap :v
  7. 00:33:389 (303,304,305,306,307,308,309) - Biraz fazla mapping tarzına karışıyorum ama hem vokal açısından hem de 00:33:715 - buradaki bateri sesini kaçırmandan dolayı kdddkkd patterni uygun olabilir.
  8. 01:02:735 - Bu kısımdaki ninja notalar biraz fazla hızlı geliyorlar.Eğer boş bir alanda yapmış olsaydın sıkıntı olmazdı ama diğer notalarla iç içe girdikleri için temiz bir şekilde okunmuyor.
  9. 01:37:298 (924,925,926,927,928,929,930) - Şu patternleri mapinde her yerde gördüm ama neden koyduğuna anlam veremedim.Bir zahmet burada açıklayıver :p
  10. 01:43:168 (996,997,998,999,1000,1001,1002,1003,1004,1005,1006,1007) - Burası pek bateriyi takip etmiş gibi görünmüyor.Daha sade bir pattern olan kkkkddkkkkdd patternini öneriyorum.
  11. 01:57:107 (1156) - Bunu 01:56:944 - noktasına taşısan daha iyi olur çünkü ddd patterni o düz gitar sesini daha iyi açıklıyor.
  12. Şimdi işaretleyeceğim yerlerde senin yaptığının aksine 1/3 gitar sesi var:
    02:08:275 -
    02:08:927 -
    02:09:579 -
    02:10:883 -
    02:11:535 -
    02:12:188 -
    Ay yeter amk anladın sen olayı
  13. 02:19:850 (1362,1363,1364) - Snare sesi duydum sanki.Finisherlık bir şey yok pek.
  14. 02:26:208 - Twin pedal mı var bana mı öyle geldi :"U
  15. 03:07:945 - Aynı öneriler geçerli.
  16. 04:44:464 - ^
  17. 05:10:067 (3058,3059,3060,3061,3062,3063,3064) - İnsan bir bateriye bakar yahu
  18. 05:26:207 - Aynı şekilde burada da 1/3 sesler var.Gitarı takip ettiğin kısımlar varsa aklında tut.


Valla ne diyeyim bilemedim.Patternler nedensizce karışık.Senden böyle bir map beklemiyordum açıkçası :( Neyse :thonkung: yazıp uyumaya gideyim ben ;w;
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zigizigiefe wrote:

Uykum var amk

[Cehennem Şeytan]
  • inb4 oni türkçede şeytan demek :v
  1. 00:05:348 - Overmapi sevmediğine göre burada bazı kısımlarda bateri sesi yok.Bateriyi gözden geçir. :arrow:3.kez aynı şey tekrar etsin istemedim, o yüzden bazı notaları sildim ama eskisiyle aynı değil.
  2. 00:09:913 (84,85,86,87,88,89,90) - Burada yapmaya çalıştığın şeyi tam olarak anlayamadım.Bateriyi takip ettiysen tüm sesler aynı.Ama ben gitarı takip ettim diyorsan 00:09:913 (84,85) - burası low pitch,00:10:076 (86,87,88,89) - burada nota inceliyor ve 00:10:402 (90) - Burada gitar sakinleşiyor.Yani eğer bateriyi takip ettiysen kkkkkkk patternini,gitarı takip ettiysen ddkkkkd patternini öneririm.Bu pattern gerçekten çok kötü duruyor. :arrow:00:09:913 (79) - Bu sesi kick gibi duymuştum trampetmiş. k ile değiştirdim.
  3. 00:13:173 (110) - Buradaki bateri sesini kat notaları ile belirtmişsin,burada finisher olması birazcık tutarsız değil mi sence?Variety ile alakası yok bunun. :arrow:O variety için değil, ölçü başı + crash cymbal sesi var.
  4. 00:19:695 - Uzun uzun yazmayayım,ben "Bateri sesi daha farklı" diyeyim sen anla. :arrow:Bateriye uyarladım.
  5. 00:22:955 (205) - Daha temiz bir flow ve oradaki bateri sesinden dolayı kat kullanmanı öneriyorum. :arrow:Mantıklı. Diğer patternlarda da değiştirdim.
  6. 00:32:085 (290,291,292,293,294,295,296) - Buradaki ilk iki vokal sesi high-low şeklinde gittiği için kkdkddk patterninin uygun olduğunu düşünüyorum.Yani CTRL+G yap :v :arrow:Son kısım gitara daha uygun geliyor bana.
  7. 00:33:389 (303,304,305,306,307,308,309) - Biraz fazla mapping tarzına karışıyorum ama hem vokal açısından hem de 00:33:715 - buradaki bateri sesini kaçırmandan dolayı kdddkkd patterni uygun olabilir. :arrow:00:33:552 (300) - Burada vocal sesinde değişim var, böyle bırakıyorum burayı.
  8. 01:02:735 - Bu kısımdaki ninja notalar biraz fazla hızlı geliyorlar.Eğer boş bir alanda yapmış olsaydın sıkıntı olmazdı ama diğer notalarla iç içe girdikleri için temiz bir şekilde okunmuyor. :arrow:Ben nomod veya HD ile oynarken sıkıntı yaşamıyorum, diğer oyuncuların da yaşayacağını sanmıyorum.
  9. 01:37:298 (924,925,926,927,928,929,930) - Şu patternleri mapinde her yerde gördüm ama neden koyduğuna anlam veremedim.Bir zahmet burada açıklayıver :p Ya çok klasik ritimler kullanmak istemedim bu sefer. Bateriye veya gitara göre yazsam full kdddkddd tarzı patternlar yazmam gerekirdi ve şarkı 5 dakika boyunca neredeyse hiç değişmiyor ritim konusunda. O yüzden çeşitlilik için yazdım.
  10. 01:43:168 (996,997,998,999,1000,1001,1002,1003,1004,1005,1006,1007) - Burası pek bateriyi takip etmiş gibi görünmüyor.Daha sade bir pattern olan kkkkddkkkkdd patternini öneriyorum. :arrow:Normalde kdkkddkdkkddkkdd yapmıştım ama bu tarz bir hand-switch ile bence oynaması hoş oluyor.
  11. 01:57:107 (1156) - Bunu 01:56:944 - noktasına taşısan daha iyi olur çünkü ddd patterni o düz gitar sesini daha iyi açıklıyor. :arrow:Ritim çok da değişmiyor açıkçası, böyle bıraktım.
  12. Şimdi işaretleyeceğim yerlerde senin yaptığının aksine 1/3 gitar sesi var:
    02:08:275 -
    02:08:927 -
    02:09:579 -
    02:10:883 -
    02:11:535 -
    02:12:188 -
    Ay yeter amk anladın sen olayı :arrow:Öyle ama 1/4 mapin yapısına daha çok uyuyor.
  13. 02:19:850 (1362,1363,1364) - Snare sesi duydum sanki.Finisherlık bir şey yok pek. :arrow:Haklısın ama gitarı böyle daha iyi vurguluyor bana sorarsan.
  14. 02:26:208 - Twin pedal mı var bana mı öyle geldi :"U :arrow:Bütün şarkı twin pedal, şarkının tamamını stream yazamam ama değil mi :3
  15. 03:07:945 - Aynı öneriler geçerli. :arrow:Yukarıda açıkladım.
  16. 04:44:464 - ^ :arrow:^
  17. 05:10:067 (3058,3059,3060,3061,3062,3063,3064) - İnsan bir bateriye bakar yahu :arrow:Bu kısım çok fazla tekrar ediyor, o yüzden farklı farklı patternlar kullandım.
  18. 05:26:207 - Aynı şekilde burada da 1/3 sesler var.Gitarı takip ettiğin kısımlar varsa aklında tut. Yukarıda açıkladım.


Valla ne diyeyim bilemedim.Patternler nedensizce karışık.Senden böyle bir map beklemiyordum açıkçası :( Neyse :thonkung: yazıp uyumaya gideyim ben ;w;İyi geceler :D
Mod için teşekkür ettim.
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^Quite a language ya got there :thinking:
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[Hell Oni]
00:09:913 (79,80,81,82,83,84,85) - Suggestion, instead of making it all kat keep it relatively similar to the other patterns you've used before and add some dons where appropriate, for instance 00:09:994 (80) - and 00:10:320 (84) - if you disagree, then one thing I definitely think is worth point out is you skipped a snare hit on 00:10:483, as it's rankable to end streams with a finisher in cases where the color of the note before it is opposite to the finisher color, I HIGHLY recommend putting a kat on 00:10:483.
00:25:564 (224,225,226,227,228,229,230) - The guitar sounds are holding over here with no other hits occuring on relatively the last half of this pattern, I'd suggest removing ONLY 00:25:890 (228) - or ALL 00:25:890 (227,228,229) - .
00:48:062 (452,453,454,455) - Keep it the same as the 1/6 plet you had before, kkkd or change the one before to dkkd as well. It's the exact same sound, so keep it consistent.
00:52:301 (499) - This sounds the same as 00:47:084 (442) - , and 00:48:388 (456) - , and 00:49:693 (470) - which are all kat. Consistency.
00:53:714 (514,515,516) - I don't see any sound here that needs 1/3 plotting. I'd much rather it be a continuation of 7-plet patterns, and the one I'd recommend after 00:53:116 (507,508,509,510,511,512,513) - would be ddkkdkD.
00:56:323 (537,538) - I get the 1/3 sounds cool and everything, but again they're not needed. I suggest continuing to emphasize the vocal and just simply get rid of these 2 notes (and replace them with a 1/2 note on a red tick if you see it fit.)
00:58:931 (556,557) - Same as above^
Quite frankly I do see why you're mapping them as 1/3 but actually a more accurate representation of the guitar you're mapping is dkkkD, and because you already have a pattern going is the reason I'm suggesting vocal emph. and continuing with 7-plet patterns.
01:01:540 (578,579,580) - Now this is correct 1/3.
01:23:522 - You skipped another snare hit here :P
02:07:215 (1233) - I recommend taking this note out to stick with the 5-plet patterns that are before this.
02:09:171 - I recommend adding a note here to fit the 7-plet pattern here
03:17:075 (1932,1933,1934,1935,1936,1937,1938,1939,1940,1941,1942,1943,1944,1945,1946,1947,1948) - I highly recommend changing this to the following: (Cursor at 03:19:890) Although I understand that the ~30 second stream is standard for difficulty, there's a hit that's worth being emphasized on 03:18:379 (1948) - and because you can't have finsher notes in the middle of the streams, it'll require a 1/2 break to keep it clean.
04:01:750 (2366,2367,2368,2369) - :thinking: I'm really struggling with this, I think it works as both 1/4 and 1/3. I'll let other people decide on this one >.<
04:53:600 (2866,2867,2868,2869,2870,2871,2872,2873,2874,2875,2876,2877,2878,2879,2880,2881,2882) - Same thing I mentioned iat 03:17:075 - ^^

And that will rap things up. Cool song, good luck w/ rank~
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Taikocracy wrote:

^Quite a language ya got there :thinking:
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[Hell Oni]
00:09:913 (79,80,81,82,83,84,85) - Suggestion, instead of making it all kat keep it relatively similar to the other patterns you've used before and add some dons where appropriate, for instance 00:09:994 (80) - and 00:10:320 (84) - if you disagree, then one thing I definitely think is worth point out is you skipped a snare hit on 00:10:483, as it's rankable to end streams with a finisher in cases where the color of the note before it is opposite to the finisher color, I HIGHLY recommend putting a kat on 00:10:483. :arrow:The reason I put these notes in all kats is because they are all snare hits as you said. Plus, Pheon suggested deleting a note before the finishers because they are hard to play and I agreed with that so I deleted them.
00:25:564 (224,225,226,227,228,229,230) - The guitar sounds are holding over here with no other hits occuring on relatively the last half of this pattern, I'd suggest removing ONLY 00:25:890 (228) - or ALL 00:25:890 (227,228,229) - . :arrow:Sadly didn't understand the reason dividing this pattern into 4-2 or leaving is as a 4-plet. It sounds horrible in my opinion.
00:48:062 (452,453,454,455) - Keep it the same as the 1/6 plet you had before, kkkd or change the one before to dkkd as well. It's the exact same sound, so keep it consistent. :arrow:Yes this makes sense. Changed this one to kkkd.
00:52:301 (499) - This sounds the same as 00:47:084 (442) - , and 00:48:388 (456) - , and 00:49:693 (470) - which are all kat. Consistency. :arrow:Well, the crash cymbal sounds a bit different to me. And plus, I don't want to have only kat finishers on the map because the drums are pretty simple and I tried to create some variation.
00:53:714 (514,515,516) - I don't see any sound here that needs 1/3 plotting. I'd much rather it be a continuation of 7-plet patterns, and the one I'd recommend after 00:53:116 (507,508,509,510,511,512,513) - would be ddkkdkD. :arrow:The guitar sounds are 1/3 on it.
00:56:323 (537,538) - I get the 1/3 sounds cool and everything, but again they're not needed. I suggest continuing to emphasize the vocal and just simply get rid of these 2 notes (and replace them with a 1/2 note on a red tick if you see it fit.)
00:58:931 (556,557) - Same as above^
Quite frankly I do see why you're mapping them as 1/3 but actually a more accurate representation of the guitar you're mapping is dkkkD, and because you already have a pattern going is the reason I'm suggesting vocal emph. and continuing with 7-plet patterns. :arrow:I prefer following guitar on them. Since I am not putting finishers at the end of the streams, if i change them to 1/4 I need to put a 1/2 break which will neither follow the drums nor guitar. So, i'll keep them as it is now.
01:01:540 (578,579,580) - Now this is correct 1/3. :arrow: No difference between the others to be honest.
01:23:522 - You skipped another snare hit here :P:arrow:Explained above :D
02:07:215 (1233) - I recommend taking this note out to stick with the 5-plet patterns that are before this. :arrow:This one sounds good, applied.
02:09:171 - I recommend adding a note here to fit the 7-plet pattern here :arrow:02:08:519 (1241) - This one is deleted instead.
03:17:075 (1932,1933,1934,1935,1936,1937,1938,1939,1940,1941,1942,1943,1944,1945,1946,1947,1948) - I highly recommend changing this to the following: (Cursor at 03:19:890) Although I understand that the ~30 second stream is standard for difficulty, there's a hit that's worth being emphasized on 03:18:379 (1948) - and because you can't have finsher notes in the middle of the streams, it'll require a 1/2 break to keep it clean. :arrow:Instead, 03:18:298 (1944,1946) - these 2 notes are deleted and 03:18:379 (1945) - changed to a kat finishers because the pattern you show me don't fit the drums better. I'd change them to kdkkddkdkkddkkk but this sounds better and also creates some variation. This is applied on all the kiai times.
04:01:750 (2366,2367,2368,2369) - :thinking: I'm really struggling with this, I think it works as both 1/4 and 1/3. I'll let other people decide on this one >.< :arrow:04:01:750 (2364,2365,2366,2367) - These are in 1/3 I am sure of it, and since I'm following guitar I'm gonna keep them.
04:53:600 (2866,2867,2868,2869,2870,2871,2872,2873,2874,2875,2876,2877,2878,2879,2880,2881,2882) - Same thing I mentioned iat 03:17:075 - ^^ :arrow:Explained above.

And that will rap things up. Cool song, good luck w/ rank~ Thank you, and I know it's cool :3
Thank you so much for your mod.
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Hi!
M4M from your queue~
Some clarifications:
  • k = kat d = don K = big kat D = big don
  1. It's just suggestions/corrections, don't take it badly. You are free to accept them or not :D
  2. If you accept my suggestions/corrections, apply also in similar parts for consistency.
  3. If you don't accept my suggestions/corrections, clarify why you do not accept them.
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General
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  1. Overall is fine, but you could play with the patterns a bit if you follow more the vocal, below I'll give some points about this
[
Hell Oni
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  1. 00:08:038 (61) - I would keep the consistency with 00:05:429 - removing that note. The increase can be in 00:09:342 -
  2. 00:19:695 - This stream fits better with the guitar and if you change to this
  3. 00:32:411 (284,285) - Ctrl+G, I think fits better and is the contrary than 00:33:389 (293,294,295,296,297,298,299) -
  4. 00:33:145 (291,304) - Would be better if you remove these notes to consistency with 00:31:841 -. Follow the vocal
  5. 00:37:465 (336,337,338,339,340) - ddkdk fits better as you make in 00:38:769 (350,351,352,353,354) -
  6. 00:38:769 (350,351,352,353,354) - kdkkd fits better with the vocal and the guitar
  7. 00:38:362 (345,359) - Same as 00:33:145 (291,304) - , for consistency and follow better the vocal
  8. 00:39:422 (356,357,358) - I think ddk is better to emphasizes the vocal in 00:39:585 (358) -
  9. 00:39:748 - Change to don this 00:39:748 (360) - and add don in 00:39:829 - (ddk) Follow better with the bg guitar and consistency with 00:37:139 (332,333,334,346,347,348) -
  10. 00:43:090 - Add don to follow the guitar that you start the pattern in 00:42:845 (393,394,395) -
  11. 00:44:068 (406) - Change to don, have the same pitch than 00:45:209 (418) -
  12. 00:47:655 (445,459) - I guess that doesn't kat. The pitch isn't higher as to set in kat
  13. 00:51:649 (489,490,491,492,493,494,495) - kdkkddk fits better with the drum
  14. 01:19:446 (715,718) - Change to kat, the vocal is very acute.
  15. 01:23:604 - Some patterns would be better is you follow also the vocal. For example 01:24:663 (771) - to don or 01:25:479 (779,780) - ctrl + g
  16. 01:32:815 (855) - kat, increase the sound
  17. 01:37:380 (909,910,911,912,913) - kkdk fits better with the vocal
  18. 01:40:478 (947,949) - Ctrl + g, is similar to 01:39:173 (931,934) -
  19. 02:00:368 - ~ 02:02:406 - Seems rare the rhythm change here. I think you can add notes in 02:00:938 - 02:01:101 - to make it more natural to play
  20. 02:02:895 (1179) - This note break with the drum than is here 02:03:058 (1181) - . Swap both
  21. 02:23:526 (1374,1375) - Ctrl + g to follow the drum
  22. 02:27:602 - You could add note to follow the vocal flow
  23. 02:34:776 (1477) - For vocal
  24. 03:58:901 (268) - Change to don, the sound is similar to 03:59:635 (277) -
  25. 04:27:350 (527,546,563) - The pitch isn't to high to set it in kat, change to don
  26. 05:07:866 (29) - kat for drum snare
That's all. Sorry if is a bad mod, is really good mapping this
Epic song, i really like it xD
I wanna see it approved :)
Good luck~



FEEEEEEAAAAR A VOICE IN THE DAAAAAAAAAAAAAARK
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gaston_2199 wrote:

Hi!
M4M from your queue~
Some clarifications:
  • k = kat d = don K = big kat D = big don
  1. It's just suggestions/corrections, don't take it badly. You are free to accept them or not :D
  2. If you accept my suggestions/corrections, apply also in similar parts for consistency.
  3. If you don't accept my suggestions/corrections, clarify why you do not accept them.
[
General
]
  1. Overall is fine, but you could play with the patterns a bit if you follow more the vocal, below I'll give some points about this
[
Hell Oni
]
  1. 00:08:038 (61) - I would keep the consistency with 00:05:429 - removing that note. The increase can be in 00:09:342 - :arrow:I'd rather keep this density increase stanza by stanza, instead of increasing it immediately.
  2. 00:19:695 - This stream fits better with the guitar and if you change to this :arrow:I'm following the drums there, since there is a drum attack I wanted to emphasize it.
  3. 00:32:411 (284,285) - Ctrl+G, I think fits better and is the contrary than 00:33:389 (293,294,295,296,297,298,299) - :arrow:Sure,
    why not? Applied.
  4. 00:33:145 (291,304) - Would be better if you remove these notes to consistency with 00:31:841 -. Follow the vocal :arrow:The first one is already following vocals, but due to 2nd pattern's weirdness, I changed it to kddkk in order to fit the vocals better.
  5. 00:37:465 (336,337,338,339,340) - ddkdk fits better as you make in 00:38:769 (350,351,352,353,354) - :arrow:00:37:302 (334,335,336,337) - Those four notes emphasizes the loong high-pitched screamy vocals, and the dons represent the lower ones.
  6. 00:38:769 (350,351,352,353,354) - kdkkd fits better with the vocal and the guitar :arrow:00:38:932 (352,353,354) - I think these 3 already fits with the guitar.
  7. 00:38:362 (345,359) - Same as 00:33:145 (291,304) - , for consistency and follow better the vocal :arrow:00:39:422 (356) - This one is changed to don instead. The first one is already good btw.
  8. 00:39:422 (356,357,358) - I think ddk is better to emphasizes the vocal in 00:39:585 (358) - Oh, well. :D
  9. 00:39:748 - Change to don this Yeah, okay. 00:39:748 (360) - and add don in 00:39:829 - (ddk) I won't make the stream too long by merging those patterns. Follow better with the bg guitar and consistency with 00:37:139 (332,333,334,346,347,348) -
  10. 00:43:090 - Add don to follow the guitar that you start the pattern in 00:42:845 (393,394,395) - :arrow:Nope, the next note has a finisher.
  11. 00:44:068 (406) - Change to don, have the same pitch than 00:45:209 (418) - :arrow:It's for variation in this case. These off-beat patterns are intentionally put.
  12. 00:47:655 (445,459) - I guess that doesn't kat. The pitch isn't higher as to set in kat :arrow:Same answer above.
  13. 00:51:649 (489,490,491,492,493,494,495) - kdkkddk fits better with the drum :arrow:I disagree, the higher ones are on kats and the lower ones are on dons alreay.
  14. 01:19:446 (715,718) - Change to kat, the vocal is very acute. :arrow:First applied, second declined due to keep the readability of the off-beat kddkkkd pattern.
  15. 01:23:604 - Some patterns would be better is you follow also the vocal. For example 01:24:663 (771) - to don or 01:25:479 (779,780) - ctrl + g :arrow:Those are good, applied.
  16. 01:32:815 (855) - kat, increase the sound :arrow:Nope, it will overemphasize the low drum sound.
  17. 01:37:380 (909,910,911,912,913) - kkdk fits better with the vocal :arrow:You selected 5 notes, but you wrote a 4-plet pattern. So,
    i don't understand this one.
  18. 01:40:478 (947,949) - Ctrl + g, is similar to 01:39:173 (931,934) - :arrow:01:40:478 (947) - I think this earlier kat provides a better build-up 01:40:559 (948) - to this vocal sound.
  19. 02:00:368 - ~ 02:02:406 - Seems rare the rhythm change here. I think you can add notes in 02:00:938 - 02:01:101 - to make it more natural to play :arrow:Disagreed, those are intentional, because the guitar sound starts on these spots.
  20. 02:02:895 (1179) - This note break with the drum than is here 02:03:058 (1181) - . Swap both :arrow:Yup, applied.
  21. 02:23:526 (1374,1375) - Ctrl + g to follow the drum :arrow:That part is reversed intentionally for variation.
  22. 02:27:602 - You could add note to follow the vocal flow :arrow:On the 4-stanza block, except the last stanza's last pattern I only have 1/2 notes, 3-plets and 5-plets. Making it a looong stream just won't work because of the structure.
  23. 02:34:776 (1477) - For vocal :arrow:Why not? Sounds good.
  24. 03:58:901 (268) - Change to don, the sound is similar to 03:59:635 (277) - :arrow:The intensity of the kats are defined due to the guitar-pitch. The more it is high, the more of the kat notes.
  25. 04:27:350 (527,546,563) - The pitch isn't to high to set it in kat, change to don :arrow:Okay, applied.
  26. 05:07:866 (29) - kat for drum snare :arrow:That is not a snare sound.
That's all. Sorry if is a bad mod, is really good mapping this
Epic song, i really like it xD
I wanna see it approved :):arrow:Me too!
Good luck~

Thanks for the mod!


FEEEEEEAAAAR A VOICE IN THE DAAAAAAAAAAAAAARK --- BEEEEEWAREEEE NOW!
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hey, m4m here.

00:09:913 (78,79) - 00:09:913 (78,79) - You can change these 2 notes (or just 79) for dons to give emphasis on the guitar tone change at 00:10:076 (80) - . if you agree do it for similar parts.
00:19:939 (165,166) - ctrl+g this since 00:20:021 (166) - has a higher intensity. having 166 as don (with the following notes also as don) decreases it's intensity. Something that would go well with that change is changing 00:20:184 (168) - to a kat to follow the guitar sound. (It makes 00:20:021 (166,167,168) - as kdk).
00:36:161 (323) - this one to don to keep the "don on red lines" pattern following the vocals in this stream. it's also pleasant to hear/play :p.
00:37:465 (336) - same as above.
01:41:048 (954,955,956,957,958) - I think you can change this pattern mirroring 01:40:233 (944,945,946,947,948) - . The first one sounds better because of the vocals on the stream but the second is just strange since it's the exact same patten in a place with no vocals at all. if you agree do the same on the other kiais.
04:12:514 - a smoother sv (1 by note) makes this part better to read mostly because of the patterns. If it were the same as 03:51:646 - (monocolour) or a ddkkddkk/kkddkkdd pattern it would work better but since it has an odd number of notes of the same colour it makes this strange.
05:12:186 (69,70,71,72,73) - aaa I don't like this pattern here, it doesn't fit so well. it's the same music part as 05:09:578 (44,45,46,47,48) and 05:06:969 (19,20,21,22,23) but you use the pattern used on those parts here 05:11:534 (63,64,65,66,67) , which is a different part. I think it should have the same pattern since it's the same musical part. You could start the different patterns from here if you want the variation 05:10:556 - since it's another (the last actually) section of the song before changing the rhythm at 05:15:773 - .


that's it from me.
map looks good overall, nice deathstreams :^).
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Marm wrote:

hey, m4m here.

00:09:913 (78,79) - 00:09:913 (78,79) - You can change these 2 notes (or just 79) for dons to give emphasis on the guitar tone change at 00:10:076 (80) - . if you agree do it for similar parts. :arrow:Not really, I'm following drums and they're both snares like the rest of them.
00:19:939 (165,166) - ctrl+g this since 00:20:021 (166) - has a higher intensity. having 166 as don (with the following notes also as don) decreases it's intensity. Something that would go well with that change is changing 00:20:184 (168) - to a kat to follow the guitar sound. (It makes 00:20:021 (166,167,168) - as kdk). :arrow:Same reason as above.
00:36:161 (323) - this one to don to keep the "don on red lines" pattern following the vocals in this stream. it's also pleasant to hear/play :p. :arrow:Same reason as above.
00:37:465 (336) - same as above. :arrow:Same reason as above.
01:41:048 (954,955,956,957,958) - I think you can change this pattern mirroring 01:40:233 (944,945,946,947,948) - . The first one sounds better because of the vocals on the stream but the second is just strange since it's the exact same patten in a place with no vocals at all. if you agree do the same on the other kiais. :arrow:Actually, 01:41:374 (958,960) - those two kat notes representing the vocal sounds, and those streams' endings are always contain hand-swap patterns. Those will be the reasons to keep the stream that way.
04:12:514 - a smoother sv (1 by note) makes this part better to read mostly because of the patterns. If it were the same as 03:51:646 - (monocolour) or a ddkkddkk/kkddkkdd pattern it would work better but since it has an odd number of notes of the same colour it makes this strange. :arrow:Added middle SVs, but I may change it in the future.
05:12:186 (69,70,71,72,73) - aaa I don't like this pattern here, it doesn't fit so well. it's the same music part as 05:09:578 (44,45,46,47,48) and 05:06:969 (19,20,21,22,23) but you use the pattern used on those parts here 05:11:534 (63,64,65,66,67) , which is a different part. I think it should have the same pattern since it's the same musical part. You could start the different patterns from here if you want the variation 05:10:556 - since it's another (the last actually) section of the song before changing the rhythm at 05:15:773 - . :arrow:Did some changes around that part.


that's it from me.
map looks good overall, nice deathstreams :^). Thank you so much!
Thanks for the mod.
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[Hell Oni]
00:19:695 (162,163,164,165,166,167) - to fit better with the pattern at 00:20:510 (172,173,174,175,176) - you should use kkkdkk here. That makes the kat usage for 00:20:021 (166,167) - appropriate and consistent.
00:25:808 (221) - kat here would sound pretty neat but nothing major you'd have to change.
00:30:862 (269) - either remove or make this to don, the kat spam shouldn't start already with (268) but with (270).
01:07:952 - if you don't feel the SV is too low, I'd suggest to change it to 1.12x. It looks nicer to me but it's a matter of taste. Apply that for the next lines too.
01:22:707 (752,753) - The kdkkdkdd rhythm is.. odd. you should swap the two notes.
03:51:646 - 03:52:298 - honestly, that SV increase is just random. I don't see why to keep that.

Up to you if you want to have some more people to go over the map, let me know whatcha want.
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Stefan wrote:

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[Hell Oni]
00:19:695 (162,163,164,165,166,167) - to fit better with the pattern at 00:20:510 (172,173,174,175,176) - you should use kkkdkk here. That makes the kat usage for 00:20:021 (166,167) - appropriate and consistent. :arrow:I understand the reason of it. But, 00:10:565 - starting from here to that part I've followed guitar mostly. So, I thought that it's time to follow the drums, which in this case this pattern fits the best.
00:25:808 (221) - kat here would sound pretty neat but nothing major you'd have to change. :arrow:I wanted to make these patterns as various as I can do, and 00:28:417 (246) - this note is kat, so keeping it don provide the variety on those patterns.
00:30:862 (269) - either remove or make this to don, the kat spam shouldn't start already with (268) but with (270). :arrow:I don't see why though. 00:30:781 (268,269,270,271,272,273,274) - Those notes are all on snare sounds, so I don't want to change it tbh.
01:07:952 - if you don't feel the SV is too low, I'd suggest to change it to 1.12x. It looks nicer to me but it's a matter of taste. Apply that for the next lines too. :arrow:Applied.
01:22:707 (752,753) - The kdkkdkdd rhythm is.. odd. you should swap the two notes. :arrow:I don't see why not? Changed.
03:51:646 - 03:52:298 - honestly, that SV increase is just random. I don't see why to keep that. :arrow:Agreed, deleted the SV changes between the middle section.

Up to you if you want to have some more people to go over the map, let me know whatcha want.
Thanks for the check!
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Thanks ! FEEEL THE VOICE IN THE DARK! BE AWARE NOW!
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blind guardian on osu wtf
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mithew wrote:

blind guardian on osu wtf
It's cool, right?
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04:44:471 - dont forget enable kiai at redlines

snap that 2 sliders properly xD

00:05:429 - 00:06:733 - so yes.. and 00:06:081 - add here or delete those first timestamp?

its needed for rebubble since knowing the bold points qwq
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