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Epicsteve's Extra
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00:05:486 (2,3) - A personal gripe that I have throughout the map; sliders overlapping each other, I feel like aesthetically would to be to move over the slider a bit on each slider that transfers by 1/4: Old - https://imgur.com/a/D2qSF New - https://imgur.com/a/3CPHR
00:08:081 (2,3) - ^ (This works better as well, It blankets the stream - https://imgur.com/a/AuAQ9)
00:11:649 (6,7) - Seem random to the actual rhythm of the song, Suggest this - https://imgur.com/a/4mhs3
00:22:838 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - I'd recommend to add more to the sliders so they flow better with the stream rather linear sliders - https://imgur.com/a/tuT7H (Also 1/8 sliders are a bit overkill, 1/4 circles would do fine)https://imgur.com/a/c8BIO
00:26:243 (1,2) - Tone the Stack Latency down a bit to better fit the pattern
00:27:378 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - Personally I would rotate the triangle counter clockwise making it easier to play / read
00:29:649 (3,4,5,6,1) - ^^ 00:22:838 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - ^^
00:32:405 (3) - Turn off grid snap to line the sliders up properly
00:50:243 (5,6,7,1) - I would change the order of the circles to fit the previous pattern - https://imgur.com/a/nwknL
00:50:730 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - I personally don't like this pattern, I'd recommend this instead https://imgur.com/a/mwkPx ( Or even overlap them )
00:54:622 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - Tone it down with new combo a bit, this would be better https://imgur.com/a/VOA2O
01:00:135 (5,1,2) - I would have 2 over lap with 5
01:18:297 (2,3) - I would recommend following the previous pattern but both can work
01:21:540 (4,5,6,7,1) - ^^ 00:22:838 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - ^^
01:31:919 (3) - Replace with a stream, only 1/4 can be heard
01:50:405 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - ^^ 00:22:838 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - ^^
00:08:081 (2,3) - ^ (This works better as well, It blankets the stream - https://imgur.com/a/AuAQ9)
00:11:649 (6,7) - Seem random to the actual rhythm of the song, Suggest this - https://imgur.com/a/4mhs3
00:22:838 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - I'd recommend to add more to the sliders so they flow better with the stream rather linear sliders - https://imgur.com/a/tuT7H (Also 1/8 sliders are a bit overkill, 1/4 circles would do fine)https://imgur.com/a/c8BIO
00:26:243 (1,2) - Tone the Stack Latency down a bit to better fit the pattern
00:27:378 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - Personally I would rotate the triangle counter clockwise making it easier to play / read
00:29:649 (3,4,5,6,1) - ^^ 00:22:838 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - ^^
00:32:405 (3) - Turn off grid snap to line the sliders up properly
00:50:243 (5,6,7,1) - I would change the order of the circles to fit the previous pattern - https://imgur.com/a/nwknL
00:50:730 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - I personally don't like this pattern, I'd recommend this instead https://imgur.com/a/mwkPx ( Or even overlap them )
00:54:622 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - Tone it down with new combo a bit, this would be better https://imgur.com/a/VOA2O
01:00:135 (5,1,2) - I would have 2 over lap with 5
01:18:297 (2,3) - I would recommend following the previous pattern but both can work
01:21:540 (4,5,6,7,1) - ^^ 00:22:838 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - ^^
01:31:919 (3) - Replace with a stream, only 1/4 can be heard
01:50:405 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - ^^ 00:22:838 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - ^^
Appreciate the mod but I thought this set was gonna be graved so I kinda shitmapped. Also I mapped this around 3 months ago and I think I'm a lot better at mapping now.
Also InfinityGhost told me to remap lol (It might not happen for a while tho or at all)
Also InfinityGhost told me to remap lol (It might not happen for a while tho or at all)
Topic Starter
pls remapEpicsteve2 wrote:
Appreciate the mod but I thought this set was gonna be graved so I kinda shitmapped. Also I mapped this around 3 months ago and I think I'm a lot better at mapping now.
Also InfinityGhost told me to remap lol (It might not happen for a while tho or at all)
Nande? Nande? Nande?InfinityGhost wrote:
pls remapEpicsteve2 wrote:
Appreciate the mod but I thought this set was gonna be graved so I kinda shitmapped. Also I mapped this around 3 months ago and I think I'm a lot better at mapping now.
Also InfinityGhost told me to remap lol (It might not happen for a while tho or at all)
Insane
00:35:324 - Insert sliderheads to downbeats which are white ticks in this instance, because you would be releasing sliders on major beats which is totally counter-intuitive. Fix all the parts that break the rule.
00:49:432 - I don't like going over a new measure with an extended slider its really awkward rhythm and doesn't fit the song. The sound that the slider represents persists even when the circles start coming in. even though that happens its better represented by ending the slider on the big white tick which is the start of a new measure.
00:55:878 - No reason to go 1/8 in the transition. just end it on the blue tick.
00:56:730 - This pause feels unnatural. Kind of hard to explain why its a little bit because the song feels like it keeps going even tho there isn't those clear notes you are representing. A good way to fix this is not making this whole section circles because you cant really emphasize circles on circles without spacing which wouldn't fit here so i would just rearrange the whole rhythm. I'd make note number 5 a 1/2 slider. Update: 00:57:540 - you do it here so why not do it earlier.
00:59:811 - Try to separate a song into measures with their own patterns and rhythms. This makes the map way more organized while making cool variation actually fun and playable.
01:13:513 - No reason to extend these sliders also the slider after it ends on an irregular beat.
01:25:919 - This slider is literally mapped to nothing.
01:39:540 - This next section is a disaster because of the pauses. The pauses make this really bad because its so counter-intuitive. This gets even worse here 01:42:622 - where there is literally no indication for the player that he/she should pause there because the earlier part is completely different. And its the climax of the song where its literally not emphasized with anything. Just poorly executed.
Summary: Organize your maps better rhythmically. Make bookmarks. Study sections and try to hear the music by lowering your sample volume. Try to make more interesting rhythm. Use full-beat sliders (1/1) and stay consistent with the structure you try to build. Its not about repeating everything its about staying true to a concept. If you have a chorus that plays twice you want to keep its structural integrity by using the same rhythm and have the freedom to play around with your note arrangement because even if you use the same rhythm, if the rhythm is good and interesting to begin with, good note arrangements makes it not feel repetitive if that's what you want.
00:49:432 - I don't like going over a new measure with an extended slider its really awkward rhythm and doesn't fit the song. The sound that the slider represents persists even when the circles start coming in. even though that happens its better represented by ending the slider on the big white tick which is the start of a new measure.
00:55:878 - No reason to go 1/8 in the transition. just end it on the blue tick.
00:56:730 - This pause feels unnatural. Kind of hard to explain why its a little bit because the song feels like it keeps going even tho there isn't those clear notes you are representing. A good way to fix this is not making this whole section circles because you cant really emphasize circles on circles without spacing which wouldn't fit here so i would just rearrange the whole rhythm. I'd make note number 5 a 1/2 slider. Update: 00:57:540 - you do it here so why not do it earlier.
00:59:811 - Try to separate a song into measures with their own patterns and rhythms. This makes the map way more organized while making cool variation actually fun and playable.
01:13:513 - No reason to extend these sliders also the slider after it ends on an irregular beat.
01:25:919 - This slider is literally mapped to nothing.
01:39:540 - This next section is a disaster because of the pauses. The pauses make this really bad because its so counter-intuitive. This gets even worse here 01:42:622 - where there is literally no indication for the player that he/she should pause there because the earlier part is completely different. And its the climax of the song where its literally not emphasized with anything. Just poorly executed.
Summary: Organize your maps better rhythmically. Make bookmarks. Study sections and try to hear the music by lowering your sample volume. Try to make more interesting rhythm. Use full-beat sliders (1/1) and stay consistent with the structure you try to build. Its not about repeating everything its about staying true to a concept. If you have a chorus that plays twice you want to keep its structural integrity by using the same rhythm and have the freedom to play around with your note arrangement because even if you use the same rhythm, if the rhythm is good and interesting to begin with, good note arrangements makes it not feel repetitive if that's what you want.
Topic Starter
you dont just "make" a more interesting rhythm without completely ignoring the song itself lol but either way too tired to map atm, high chances ill be remapping this insane anywayMaffe wrote:
Insane00:35:324 - Insert sliderheads to downbeats which are white ticks in this instance, because you would be releasing sliders on major beats which is totally counter-intuitive. Fix all the parts that break the rule. - they're not major at all, chords are much more important in this part
00:49:432 - I don't like going over a new measure with an extended slider its really awkward rhythm and doesn't fit the song. The sound that the slider represents persists even when the circles start coming in. even though that happens its better represented by ending the slider on the big white tick which is the start of a new measure. - agreed
00:55:878 - No reason to go 1/8 in the transition. just end it on the blue tick. - fixed
00:56:730 - This pause feels unnatural. Kind of hard to explain why its a little bit because the song feels like it keeps going even tho there isn't those clear notes you are representing. A good way to fix this is not making this whole section circles because you cant really emphasize circles on circles without spacing which wouldn't fit here so i would just rearrange the whole rhythm. I'd make note number 5 a 1/2 slider. Update: 00:57:540 - you do it here so why not do it earlier. - i get what you're trying to say here but im just going to remove that 1/2 slider to keep consistency in this part lol
00:59:811 - Try to separate a song into measures with their own patterns and rhythms. This makes the map way more organized while making cool variation actually fun and playable. - eh disagree on this part but splitting it into a different measure helps this specific spot make more sense
01:13:513 - No reason to extend these sliders also the slider after it ends on an irregular beat. fixed
01:25:919 - This slider is literally mapped to nothing. - fixed ig
01:39:540 - This next section is a disaster because of the pauses. The pauses make this really bad because its so counter-intuitive. This gets even worse here 01:42:622 - where there is literally no indication for the player that he/she should pause there because the earlier part is completely different. And its the climax of the song where its literally not emphasized with anything. Just poorly executed. agreed entirely but ideas machine was broke at the time, will be remapping the entire end when im more inspired
Summary: Organize your maps better rhythmically. Make bookmarks. Study sections and try to hear the music by lowering your sample volume. Try to make more interesting rhythm. Use full-beat sliders (1/1) and stay consistent with the structure you try to build. Its not about repeating everything its about staying true to a concept. If you have a chorus that plays twice you want to keep its structural integrity by using the same rhythm and have the freedom to play around with your note arrangement because even if you use the same rhythm, if the rhythm is good and interesting to begin with, good note arrangements makes it not feel repetitive if that's what you want.
Hello, M4M from Enkrypton's Queue.
Enkorinn's Normal:
00:16:027 (2) - This slider is 1/2 a beat too late (should start at 00:15:865).
00:35:162 (1,2,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6) - This objects here are inconsistent. The first two sliders follow percussion, but the objects starting with 00:37:595 (1) follow the instruments. It is far more intuitive to a player if the beatmap sticks with one of these. The same placement pattern occurs here: 00:10:513 (1).
00:39:865 (6,2) - Avoid this overlap.
00:45:540 - Strong drum beat, so I think a circle belongs here.
00:49:108 - This green line appears unused.
00:49:595 - ^
00:54:297 (3) - Since your are mapping the instrument and not percussion with 00:53:324 (1,2), I think it is appropriate to do the same with (3). An extended slider can replace this circle (and the next slider 00:54:622 (4)).
00:59:000 - This green line appears unused.
00:59:486 - ^
01:00:459 - ^
01:16:027 (5) - If you listen closely, this slider is mis-timed. I would consider removing it entirely.
01:17:649 (3) - This circle is inconsistent with the previous two sliders; the same set of three sounds is played here as with 01:16:676 (1,2). Consider changing (3) to a slider of the same length. (01:17:973 (4) would no longer have a repeat arrow.) Same with 01:22:838 (3).
00:10:513 and 01:47:811 - I think these kiai times are overkill; it's enough to have them on the "chorus" sections.
Good luck!
Enkorinn's Normal:
00:16:027 (2) - This slider is 1/2 a beat too late (should start at 00:15:865).
00:35:162 (1,2,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6) - This objects here are inconsistent. The first two sliders follow percussion, but the objects starting with 00:37:595 (1) follow the instruments. It is far more intuitive to a player if the beatmap sticks with one of these. The same placement pattern occurs here: 00:10:513 (1).
00:39:865 (6,2) - Avoid this overlap.
00:45:540 - Strong drum beat, so I think a circle belongs here.
00:49:108 - This green line appears unused.
00:49:595 - ^
00:54:297 (3) - Since your are mapping the instrument and not percussion with 00:53:324 (1,2), I think it is appropriate to do the same with (3). An extended slider can replace this circle (and the next slider 00:54:622 (4)).
00:59:000 - This green line appears unused.
00:59:486 - ^
01:00:459 - ^
01:16:027 (5) - If you listen closely, this slider is mis-timed. I would consider removing it entirely.
01:17:649 (3) - This circle is inconsistent with the previous two sliders; the same set of three sounds is played here as with 01:16:676 (1,2). Consider changing (3) to a slider of the same length. (01:17:973 (4) would no longer have a repeat arrow.) Same with 01:22:838 (3).
00:10:513 and 01:47:811 - I think these kiai times are overkill; it's enough to have them on the "chorus" sections.
Good luck!
Thanks for mod!theyaoster wrote:
Hello, M4M from Enkrypton's Queue.
Enkorinn's Normal:
00:16:027 (2) - This slider is 1/2 a beat too late (should start at 00:15:865). whoops
00:35:162 (1,2,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6) - This objects here are inconsistent. The first two sliders follow percussion, but the objects starting with 00:37:595 (1) follow the instruments. It is far more intuitive to a player if the beatmap sticks with one of these. The same placement pattern occurs here: 00:10:513 (1). I mapped to the strongest sounding beat here which feels more appropriate for a normal. I did fix first 2 sliders on each tho since it sounded mistimed.
00:39:865 (6,2) - Avoid this overlap. adjusted
00:45:540 - Strong drum beat, so I think a circle belongs here. it kinda ruins the "feel" for the break after the huge hold note. Even tho its pretty strong i wanna keep that "feeling" for the break
00:49:108 - This green line appears unused. lol i copied timing points from easy or smth forgot to delete
00:49:595 - ^ ^
-- i think i stopped here and Akitoshi did the rest but ill handle some of the less mapping related ones --
00:54:297 (3) - Since your are mapping the instrument and not percussion with 00:53:324 (1,2), I think it is appropriate to do the same with (3). An extended slider can replace this circle (and the next slider 00:54:622 (4)).
00:59:000 - This green line appears unused. removed
00:59:486 - ^ ^
01:00:459 - ^ ^
01:16:027 (5) - If you listen closely, this slider is mis-timed. I would consider removing it entirely.
01:17:649 (3) - This circle is inconsistent with the previous two sliders; the same set of three sounds is played here as with 01:16:676 (1,2). Consider changing (3) to a slider of the same length. (01:17:973 (4) would no longer have a repeat arrow.) Same with 01:22:838 (3).
00:10:513 and 01:47:811 - I think these kiai times are overkill; it's enough to have them on the "chorus" sections. I'm using map set kiai timings, have to ask @InfinityGhost if he wants a global kiai time change
Good luck!
10/10 never copying timing points again
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theyaoster wrote:
01:16:027 (5) - If you listen closely, this slider is mis-timed. I would consider removing it entirely. did something
01:17:649 (3) - This circle is inconsistent with the previous two sliders; the same set of three sounds is played here as with 01:16:676 (1,2). Consider changing (3) to a slider of the same length. (01:17:973 (4) would no longer have a repeat arrow.) Same with 01:22:838 (3). a reason why i stopped it as circle is to avoid 1/2 chains. It's still normal so I don't think I'll put 1/1 slider everywhere
01:47:811 - I think these kiai times are overkill; it's enough to have them on the "chorus" sections. ending is intense so why not
Good luck!
thanks
@InfinityGhost copy this instead if ur still alive thx
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Hi, M4M from Enkrypton's Queue
Enkorinn's Normal
This diff in general has a very low volume, I suggest to increase it on kiais at least
00:05:811 (2,3) - Probably you should want to fix this blanket :p
00:08:405 (2,3) - ^
00:09:865 (4) - Rotate by -6 with Selection Centre enabled
00:32:081 (6,5) - Staking those circles could be a good idea, maintaining the triangle with 00:33:054 (3,4) -
00:40:351 (1) - Move this slider to x:192 y:8, this may fix the blanket on both sliders 00:40:351 (1,2) -
00:44:081 (4) - I really suggest to make this slider like this
00:45:540 - Add a circle with new combo here
00:54:622 (4) - Shouldn't this slider be ending on the white tick?
01:11:486 (1) - Is not necessary to have a new combo
01:19:108 (7,1) - Now here, try to put the new combo on 7 instead of 1, also do the same on these other sections 01:24:297 (7,1) - 01:29:486 (7,1) - 01:32:081 (7,1) - 01:34:676 (7,1) -
01:51:703 (5) - New combo here
and I think that's all, sorry for late answer tho
gl~ ^-^
00:05:811 (2,3) - Probably you should want to fix this blanket :p
00:08:405 (2,3) - ^
00:09:865 (4) - Rotate by -6 with Selection Centre enabled
00:32:081 (6,5) - Staking those circles could be a good idea, maintaining the triangle with 00:33:054 (3,4) -
00:40:351 (1) - Move this slider to x:192 y:8, this may fix the blanket on both sliders 00:40:351 (1,2) -
00:44:081 (4) - I really suggest to make this slider like this
00:45:540 - Add a circle with new combo here
00:54:622 (4) - Shouldn't this slider be ending on the white tick?
01:11:486 (1) - Is not necessary to have a new combo
01:19:108 (7,1) - Now here, try to put the new combo on 7 instead of 1, also do the same on these other sections 01:24:297 (7,1) - 01:29:486 (7,1) - 01:32:081 (7,1) - 01:34:676 (7,1) -
01:51:703 (5) - New combo here
and I think that's all, sorry for late answer tho
gl~ ^-^
Here's my Diff 
LeQuack's Hard
osu file format v14
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AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 10513
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.3
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DistanceSpacing: 1.3
BeatDivisor: 4
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[Metadata]
Title:Ascalon
TitleUnicode:Ascalon
Artist:Qrispy Joybox
ArtistUnicode:Qrispy Joybox
Creator:InfinityGhost
Version:LeQuack's Hard
Source:beatmania IIDX 20 tricoro
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166,251,111378,2,0,P|95:250|41:298,1,131.25
20,335,111703,5,0,0:0:0:0:
132,350,111865,2,0,L|235:348,1,87.5
303,271,112189,2,0,L|406:273,1,87.5
483,337,112513,1,0,0:0:0:0:
488,222,112676,1,0,0:0:0:0:
392,160,112838,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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