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2017-12-23 17:02 Minseo2000: ACTION opens editor
2017-12-23 17:02 Minseo2000: ACTION sees this
2017-12-23 17:02 Minseo2000: 01:29:498 (89498|0,89675|0,89763|2,89851|0,89939|2,90028|0,90116|2,90204|0,90292|2) -
2017-12-23 17:02 Mentholzzz: o w o
2017-12-23 17:03 Mentholzzz: o lol
2017-12-23 17:04 Minseo2000: ok
2017-12-23 17:04 Minseo2000: this new
2017-12-23 17:04 Minseo2000: remapped parodia section
2017-12-23 17:04 Minseo2000: is harder
2017-12-23 17:04 Mentholzzz: :thonk:
2017-12-23 17:04 Minseo2000: 01:35:498 (95498|6,95675|6,95851|6,96028|6) - srsly
2017-12-23 17:05 Minseo2000: it's harder
2017-12-23 17:06 Minseo2000: 01:38:322 (98322|6,98322|5,98410|4) - a bit awkward btw
2017-12-23 17:07 Minseo2000: 01:38:763 (98763|4,98939|5,99028|6) - and this is soooo misleading :c
2017-12-23 17:07 Mentholzzz: 01:39:469 (99469|1,99557|2) - this too ?
2017-12-23 17:07 Minseo2000: a bit
2017-12-23 17:07 Minseo2000: yea
2017-12-23 17:08 Minseo2000: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9830544 smth simple like this should be enough i guess
2017-12-23 17:09 Minseo2000: o i won't be modding for too long today unlike last time cuz i should shower and have dinner :x
2017-12-23 17:09 Mentholzzz: o ok
2017-12-23 17:11 Minseo2000: 01:40:969 (100969|1,101145|1,101322|1,101498|1,101675|1) - also this
2017-12-23 17:11 Minseo2000: though not very hard
2017-12-23 17:12 Mentholzzz: hmm change a bit
2017-12-23 17:13 Minseo2000: more anchors 02:14:498 (134498|4,134675|4,134851|4,135028|4) -
2017-12-23 17:14 Minseo2000: 02:48:028 (168028|1,168204|1,168381|1,168557|1) -
2017-12-23 17:14 Minseo2000: 02:51:028 (171028|2,171204|2,171381|2,171557|2,171733|2) -
2017-12-23 17:15 Minseo2000: 02:57:292 (177292|1,177469|1,177557|5,177645|1,177733|5,177822|1,177910|5,178086|5,178616|5,178792|5,178969|5,179145|5) -
2017-12-23 17:15 Minseo2000: etc etc
2017-12-23 17:15 Minseo2000: should i skip anchors
2017-12-23 17:16 Mentholzzz: maybe :thonk:
2017-12-23 17:16 Minseo2000: 03:32:675 (212675|4,212675|1,212675|6,212675|2,212675|5,212851|4,212851|0,212851|2,212851|1,212851|5) - flip for PR pls :D
2017-12-23 17:17 Minseo2000: 03:33:204 - higher pitched here than the notes before
2017-12-23 17:18 Mentholzzz: ok
2017-12-23 17:18 Minseo2000: also
2017-12-23 17:18 Minseo2000: 03:33:733 - trill pls :^)
2017-12-23 17:19 Minseo2000: 03:34:439 - ~ 03:45:028 - this part
2017-12-23 17:19 Minseo2000: the lower piano notes
2017-12-23 17:19 Minseo2000: repeat two times before changing pitch
2017-12-23 17:19 Minseo2000: the piano notes spaced 1/1 apart
2017-12-23 17:20 Minseo2000: are u going to PR those
2017-12-23 17:20 Minseo2000: fk
2017-12-23 17:20 Minseo2000: disconnected
2017-12-23 17:21 Mentholzzz: yes
2017-12-23 17:21 Mentholzzz: wait those :thenk:
2017-12-23 17:21 Mentholzzz: is that what u mentioned
2017-12-23 17:21 Mentholzzz: or smth else
2017-12-23 17:22 Minseo2000: ok
2017-12-23 17:22 Minseo2000: i think
2017-12-23 17:22 Minseo2000: my messages
2017-12-23 17:22 Minseo2000: didn't get sent
2017-12-23 17:22 Minseo2000: fk
2017-12-23 17:22 Minseo2000: ok
2017-12-23 17:22 Minseo2000: repeating
2017-12-23 17:22 Mentholzzz: o wao
2017-12-23 17:23 Minseo2000: 03:34:439 - ~ 03:45:028 - the low pitched piano 1/1 notes repeat once before changing pitch
2017-12-23 17:23 Minseo2000: are you going to PR these
2017-12-23 17:23 Mentholzzz: yes if possible
2017-12-23 17:23 Minseo2000: ok
2017-12-23 17:24 Minseo2000: start
2017-12-23 17:24 Minseo2000: 03:34:439 - start
2017-12-23 17:24 Minseo2000: 03:35:145 - lower
2017-12-23 17:24 Minseo2000: 03:35:851 - higher
2017-12-23 17:24 Minseo2000: 03:36:557 - higher
2017-12-23 17:24 Minseo2000: 03:37:263 - higher
2017-12-23 17:24 Minseo2000: 03:37:969 - higher
2017-12-23 17:24 Minseo2000: 03:38:675 - lower
2017-12-23 17:24 Minseo2000: 03:39:381 - higher
2017-12-23 17:24 Minseo2000: 03:40:086 - lower
2017-12-23 17:24 Minseo2000: 03:40:792 - lower
2017-12-23 17:24 Minseo2000: 03:41:498 - higher
2017-12-23 17:25 Minseo2000: 03:42:204 - higher
2017-12-23 17:25 Minseo2000: 03:42:910 - higher
2017-12-23 17:25 Minseo2000: 03:43:616 - lower
2017-12-23 17:25 Minseo2000: 03:44:322 - lower
2017-12-23 17:25 Minseo2000: 03:45:028 - end
2017-12-23 17:26 Mentholzzz: o wao
2017-12-23 17:26 Mentholzzz: ok
2017-12-23 17:26 Mentholzzz: lets skip this part first, i will rearrange it later
2017-12-23 17:26 Minseo2000: well
2017-12-23 17:26 Minseo2000: but the part with the LNs
2017-12-23 17:26 Minseo2000: i think it's fine to not do the low pitch piano PR
2017-12-23 17:26 Minseo2000: but to focus on the violin PR
2017-12-23 17:27 Mentholzzz: o
2017-12-23 17:27 Minseo2000: like this
2017-12-23 17:27 Minseo2000: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9830607
2017-12-23 17:29 Minseo2000: also
2017-12-23 17:29 Minseo2000: 03:36:381 (216381|4,216469|3,216557|2) - should be reversed
2017-12-23 17:29 Minseo2000: 03:36:733 - pitch goes lower here
2017-12-23 17:29 Minseo2000: 03:36:910 (216910|1,216998|2,217086|3,217175|4) - reverse
2017-12-23 17:29 Mentholzzz: oki
2017-12-23 17:29 Minseo2000: 03:37:439 - change direction here
2017-12-23 17:30 Minseo2000: 03:37:969 (217969|1,218057|3,218145|5,218233|3,218322|1) - reversed
2017-12-23 17:30 Minseo2000: 03:39:469 - might be better to start again from the right since the violins go high pitched again
2017-12-23 17:30 Minseo2000: 03:40:969 (220969|1,221057|3,221145|5) - reverse
2017-12-23 17:31 Minseo2000: 03:40:086 (220086|3,220616|3) - similar pitch
2017-12-23 17:31 Minseo2000: 03:41:322 (221322|3) - slightly higher than the two highlighted previously
2017-12-23 17:32 Minseo2000: lul
2017-12-23 17:33 Mentholzzz: wao
2017-12-23 17:33 Mentholzzz: smh
2017-12-23 17:33 Minseo2000: lul
2017-12-23 17:34 Minseo2000: PR :^)
2017-12-23 17:34 Mentholzzz: more than half of my suppose-to-follow-pr is reversed
2017-12-23 17:34 Mentholzzz: smh
2017-12-23 17:34 Minseo2000: u should
2017-12-23 17:34 Minseo2000: learn the piano or smth
2017-12-23 17:34 Minseo2000: :^)
2017-12-23 17:34 Minseo2000: all good?
2017-12-23 17:34 Mentholzzz: :thenk:
2017-12-23 17:34 Mentholzzz: yes
2017-12-23 17:34 Minseo2000: 03:45:028 (225028|2,225145|4,225233|2,225351|4,225410|5,225410|1) - wtf snap
2017-12-23 17:35 Mentholzzz: idk ask rivals
2017-12-23 17:35 Mentholzzz: he gave me this
2017-12-23 17:35 Minseo2000: i think u can just snap it to 1/4 for the piano instead of the strings
2017-12-23 17:35 Minseo2000: but
2017-12-23 17:35 Minseo2000: even the strings are 1/4 snap tho :thenkeng:
2017-12-23 17:35 Minseo2000: like
2017-12-23 17:35 Minseo2000: they have
2017-12-23 17:35 Minseo2000: some kind of build-up delay
2017-12-23 17:36 Minseo2000: but the proper start of the violins
2017-12-23 17:36 Minseo2000: are 1/4
2017-12-23 17:36 Minseo2000: w/e
2017-12-23 17:36 Minseo2000: just make them piano notes instead
2017-12-23 17:36 Minseo2000: though
2017-12-23 17:36 Mentholzzz: rivals : 03:45:028 - ok uh inconsistent piano distance making me uvuvuwvuwe
2017-12-23 17:37 Mentholzzz: :thenkeng:
2017-12-23 17:37 Minseo2000: the piano PR goes start-higher-higher-lower-lower
2017-12-23 17:37 Minseo2000: violin goes low-high-low-high-low
2017-12-23 17:38 Minseo2000: 1/12 snap is fk'ing weird
2017-12-23 17:38 Mentholzzz: rivals : Pretty sure the last 2 note and 2 LNs there are a little bit early and they should be snapped 1/12 later.
2017-12-23 17:38 Mentholzzz: well id follow piano for simplicity then
2017-12-23 17:38 Minseo2000: the piano is clearly snapped to 1/4
2017-12-23 17:39 Minseo2000: violin has a short delay
2017-12-23 17:39 Minseo2000: if you'd been to an orchestra before
2017-12-23 17:39 Mentholzzz: #blameice once again
2017-12-23 17:39 Mentholzzz: _shot_
2017-12-23 17:39 Minseo2000: you'd notice that string instruments are slower than pianos
2017-12-23 17:39 Mentholzzz: tfw watched like 5 orchestra and didnt notice
2017-12-23 17:39 Mentholzzz: :thenk:
2017-12-23 17:40 Minseo2000: since the loudness of a string instrument depends on the speed of the hand that pulls that rod thing
2017-12-23 17:40 Minseo2000: smh i don't even know the terms
2017-12-23 17:40 Mentholzzz: smh
2017-12-23 17:40 Minseo2000: o
2017-12-23 17:40 Minseo2000: bo
2017-12-23 17:40 Minseo2000: *bow
2017-12-23 17:40 Minseo2000: yes
2017-12-23 17:40 Minseo2000: ye
2017-12-23 17:40 Mentholzzz: o
2017-12-23 17:40 Minseo2000: to make a string instrument louder
2017-12-23 17:40 Minseo2000: you pull the bow faster
2017-12-23 17:40 Minseo2000: but it takes more time to pull the bow fast
2017-12-23 17:41 Minseo2000: than to hit a piano key
2017-12-23 17:41 Mentholzzz: o
2017-12-23 17:41 Mentholzzz: ic
2017-12-23 17:41 Minseo2000: so strings tend to sound
2017-12-23 17:41 Minseo2000: slightly slower
2017-12-23 17:41 Minseo2000: than pianos
2017-12-23 17:41 Minseo2000: but
2017-12-23 17:41 Minseo2000: the start of the two
2017-12-23 17:41 Minseo2000: are the same
2017-12-23 17:41 Mentholzzz: but hmm isnt this one made in flstudio :thonk:
2017-12-23 17:41 Minseo2000: even in FL
2017-12-23 17:41 Minseo2000: u can set
2017-12-23 17:41 Mentholzzz: why would it be slower smh
2017-12-23 17:41 Minseo2000: the buildup speed
2017-12-23 17:41 Mentholzzz: fuk u ice
2017-12-23 17:41 Minseo2000: by default the strings i use has a short delay
2017-12-23 17:42 Minseo2000: it sounds more natural
2017-12-23 17:42 Minseo2000: if the volume of the sound
2017-12-23 17:42 Minseo2000: of the strings
2017-12-23 17:42 Minseo2000: kek
2017-12-23 17:42 Minseo2000: takes a short time
2017-12-23 17:42 Minseo2000: to build up
2017-12-23 17:43 Mentholzzz: ok
2017-12-23 17:44 Minseo2000: http://puu.sh/yMlqD/35ac36243f.png this part
2017-12-23 17:44 Minseo2000: example in this case is sytrus
2017-12-23 17:45 Minseo2000: it's called the attack
2017-12-23 17:45 Minseo2000: strings naturally have higher attack than pianos
2017-12-23 17:46 Mentholzzz: uh ok
2017-12-23 17:46 Minseo2000: so if anyone asks why it's 1/4 instead of <insert weird snap here>
2017-12-23 17:46 Minseo2000: just say that
2017-12-23 17:47 Mentholzzz: "i map piano , no chnage"
2017-12-23 17:47 Minseo2000: ok moving on (?)
2017-12-23 17:47 Mentholzzz: yeah ok
2017-12-23 17:47 Minseo2000: 03:45:028 (225028|6,225028|0) - i think it'll be better if u just make these LN ends snap to 03:45:645 - instead as well cuz it makes it easier to time and read
2017-12-23 17:48 Mentholzzz: ok
2017-12-23 17:49 Minseo2000: 03:45:733 - are u going to have the violin notes follow PR
2017-12-23 17:49 Mentholzzz: yes
2017-12-23 17:49 Minseo2000: ok
2017-12-23 17:49 Minseo2000: time to spam timing points
2017-12-23 17:50 Mentholzzz: w e w
2017-12-23 17:50 Minseo2000: 03:45:733 - start
2017-12-23 17:50 Minseo2000: 03:46:263 - lower
2017-12-23 17:50 Minseo2000: 03:47:851 - higher
2017-12-23 17:50 Minseo2000: 03:48:557 (228557|0,228645|1,228733|2) - reverse
2017-12-23 17:50 Minseo2000: 03:49:086 - higher
2017-12-23 17:51 Minseo2000: o
2017-12-23 17:51 Minseo2000: 03:48:910 - also higher
2017-12-23 17:51 Minseo2000: fk
2017-12-23 17:51 Minseo2000: 03:49:263 - higher
2017-12-23 17:51 Minseo2000: 03:49:439 - lower
2017-12-23 17:51 Minseo2000: 03:49:616 - higher
2017-12-23 17:51 Minseo2000: 03:49:792 - higher
2017-12-23 17:51 Minseo2000: ok i'll skip if the direction is correct
2017-12-23 17:51 Minseo2000: 03:50:498 - higher
2017-12-23 17:51 Mentholzzz: o ok
2017-12-23 17:52 Minseo2000: 03:56:498 - higher
2017-12-23 17:52 Minseo2000: done i guess
2017-12-23 17:54 Mentholzzz: o will fix later , continue
2017-12-23 17:54 Minseo2000: ok
2017-12-23 17:55 Minseo2000: 04:00:557 - ~ 04:02:675 - piano trill is clearly audible here tho :c
2017-12-23 17:55 Minseo2000: o i meant until 04:02:733 - here
2017-12-23 17:55 Minseo2000: the first trill is a bit hard to hear tho
2017-12-23 17:56 Mentholzzz: uhh well
2017-12-23 17:57 Minseo2000: though i have a feeling that at 03:57:381 - ~ 03:59:851 - there is no piano trill at all but a violin trill
2017-12-23 17:58 Mentholzzz: shud i do the same as 04:03:381 - to 04:00:557 - ?
2017-12-23 17:59 Minseo2000: hmmm
2017-12-23 17:59 Minseo2000: i guess
2017-12-23 17:59 Minseo2000: but flipped i guess
2017-12-23 17:59 Minseo2000: since the piano trill is higher pitched on04:03:381 -
2017-12-23 18:00 Minseo2000: *on 04:03:381 -
2017-12-23 18:02 Mentholzzz: or shud i keep the LN at col.1 and make 35 trill
2017-12-23 18:02 Mentholzzz: becuz the violin is there
2017-12-23 18:02 Minseo2000: well
2017-12-23 18:02 Minseo2000: that'll make the trill hellish for left spacers
2017-12-23 18:02 Minseo2000: o
2017-12-23 18:02 Minseo2000: col 1
2017-12-23 18:02 Minseo2000: 35 trill is
2017-12-23 18:02 Minseo2000: uh
2017-12-23 18:02 Minseo2000: idk
2017-12-23 18:03 Minseo2000: a bit hard on the left hand i think
2017-12-23 18:03 Mentholzzz: umm
2017-12-23 18:04 Minseo2000: holding with ring and hitting every 1/3 for that long can be a bit draining
2017-12-23 18:04 Minseo2000: *hitting with index
2017-12-23 18:05 Mentholzzz: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9830730 maybe smth like this
2017-12-23 18:05 Minseo2000: ye
2017-12-23 18:05 Minseo2000: looks painful imo
2017-12-23 18:06 Minseo2000: the reason why i prefer OH trills is that i isolates the trill from other stuff
2017-12-23 18:06 Minseo2000: that LN at col 6 looks especially painful
2017-12-23 18:06 Mentholzzz: blame my deemo skill, i fc that trill twice in a row
2017-12-23 18:06 Mentholzzz: that ss
2017-12-23 18:07 Mentholzzz: smh
2017-12-23 18:08 Minseo2000: smh
2017-12-23 18:09 Mentholzzz: smh
2017-12-23 18:09 Minseo2000: wait so is it going to be TH trill
2017-12-23 18:09 Mentholzzz: yes(?)
2017-12-23 18:09 Minseo2000: fk
2017-12-23 18:09 Minseo2000: if so add a left hand OH trill at 03:57:733 - :^)
2017-12-23 18:10 Mentholzzz: 1/4 trill ?
2017-12-23 18:10 Minseo2000: no but srsly LN + TH trill is uhhhhhhhhhh
2017-12-23 18:10 Mentholzzz: or 1/6 :thenk:
2017-12-23 18:10 Minseo2000: if u really do want a TH trill
2017-12-23 18:10 Minseo2000: what i do suggest is this
2017-12-23 18:11 Minseo2000: 03:57:381 - ~ 03:59:851 - 1/4 TH trill (strings)
2017-12-23 18:11 Minseo2000: 04:00:557 - ~ 04:02:733 - 1/6 OH trill (left hand)
2017-12-23 18:11 Mentholzzz: hmm
2017-12-23 18:11 Mentholzzz: hmmm
2017-12-23 18:12 Mentholzzz: should i do 1/4 th trill on 35 or 26
2017-12-23 18:12 Minseo2000: 35 might be better imo
2017-12-23 18:12 Minseo2000: if ur going to leave the LN
2017-12-23 18:13 Minseo2000: actually
2017-12-23 18:13 Mentholzzz: 35 with a continue 1/1 col.4 stack :thenk:
2017-12-23 18:13 Minseo2000: try making the LN last until 03:57:381 -
2017-12-23 18:13 Minseo2000: cuz that's when the strings starts to trill
2017-12-23 18:18 Mentholzzz: ok'
2017-12-23 18:19 Minseo2000: ok i should stop modding very soon
2017-12-23 18:19 Minseo2000: so i'll just point out one last thing before closing oss
2017-12-23 18:19 Minseo2000: 05:12:910 (312910|6,313086|6,313263|6,313439|6,313616|6,313792|6,313969|6,314145|6,314322|6,314498|6,314675|6) -
2017-12-23 18:19 Mentholzzz: uhh ok
2017-12-23 18:19 Minseo2000: wadafak mentos
2017-12-23 18:19 Mentholzzz: wadafak mentos
2017-12-23 18:20 Minseo2000: ok i should close oss
2017-12-23 18:20 Mentholzzz: ok bai
2017-12-23 18:21 Minseo2000: should i be posting log again rn or just post altogether later since i'm not getting kds for this
2017-12-23 18:21 Mentholzzz: up to you
2017-12-23 18:22 Minseo2000: k
2017-12-23 18:22 Minseo2000: ok closing oss
2017-12-23 18:22 Minseo2000: bai
2017-12-26 18:39 Minseo2000: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1427008 Ice - Parodia Sonatina -Grande- [7K The Final Symphony]]
2017-12-26 18:40 Minseo2000: i think i might have enough time to get some modding done before i eat dinner
2017-12-26 18:40 Mentholzzz: o w o
2017-12-26 18:41 Minseo2000: 05:11:851 (311851|2,312028|2,312204|2,312381|2,312557|2) - smh
2017-12-26 18:42 Minseo2000: 05:12:822 (312822|4,312998|4,313145|4,313263|4,313439|4,313616|4,313792|4,313969|4) -
2017-12-26 18:44 Mentholzzz: ok fixed
2017-12-26 18:44 Minseo2000: for that really long anchor
2017-12-26 18:44 Minseo2000: in the case that it's way too dense to avoid anchors
2017-12-26 18:45 Minseo2000: then it's probably best if you simply ditch finger balance and give preference to reading
2017-12-26 18:46 Mentholzzz: ok
2017-12-26 18:46 Minseo2000: 05:39:028 (339028|4,339204|4,339381|4,339557|4,339733|4) - more anchors
2017-12-26 18:46 Minseo2000: 05:39:028 (339028|1,339204|1,339381|1,339557|1,339733|1) -
2017-12-26 18:46 Minseo2000: i think i should skip mentioning anchors unless they're really severe
2017-12-26 18:50 Mentholzzz: ook
2017-12-26 18:51 Minseo2000: fk pressed wrong button now i lost the selection i just had
2017-12-26 18:51 Mentholzzz: :sadprot:
2017-12-26 18:52 Minseo2000: 05:43:263 (343263|1,343263|2,343263|5,343351|4,343351|3,343439|5,343439|6,343528|2,343528|3,343616|1,343616|4,343616|0,343616|6,343704|2,343792|5,343792|4,343881|2) - plays very awkwardly imo
2017-12-26 18:52 Minseo2000: mostly cuz of 05:43:528 (343528|2,343616|4,343704|2,343792|4,343881|2) - tril
2017-12-26 18:52 Minseo2000: 05:43:351 (343351|3,343439|6,343528|3,343616|6) - mixed with trill
2017-12-26 18:53 Minseo2000: with tiny LNs mixed in between
2017-12-26 18:55 Mentholzzz: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9854434 is smth like this better ?
2017-12-26 18:55 Minseo2000: that's
2017-12-26 18:55 Minseo2000: a huge simplification
2017-12-26 18:55 Minseo2000: well that should play better tho
2017-12-26 18:57 Mentholzzz: o ok
2017-12-26 18:57 Minseo2000: 05:43:969 (343969|5,343969|3,344057|4) - also awkward :c
2017-12-26 18:57 Minseo2000: 05:44:939 (344939|5,345028|6,345028|4) - this too
2017-12-26 18:58 Mentholzzz: fix both
2017-12-26 18:58 Minseo2000: 05:46:175 (346175|4,346263|3,346351|4,346439|3) - slightly awkward imo
2017-12-26 18:58 Minseo2000: 05:46:351 (346351|0,346439|2,346528|0,346616|2) - especially when coupled with this
2017-12-26 18:59 Minseo2000: well in general
2017-12-26 18:59 Minseo2000: unless you are planning on making parodia completely a LN heavy map
2017-12-26 19:00 Minseo2000: i suggest keeping LNs in a more easy to read arrangement
2017-12-26 19:00 Minseo2000: without mixing too much with the SNs
2017-12-26 19:01 Minseo2000: 05:42:733 (342733|0,342822|2,342910|1) - cuz stuff like this gets really awkward for rice players
2017-12-26 19:01 Minseo2000: and 90% of the map has been rice
2017-12-26 19:03 Mentholzzz: umm ok
2017-12-26 19:03 Minseo2000: .-.
2017-12-26 19:04 Minseo2000: moving on
2017-12-26 19:04 Minseo2000: 05:47:145 - the trill here get's fk'ing hard
2017-12-26 19:04 Minseo2000: cuz it's surrounded by all sorts of notes
2017-12-26 19:04 Minseo2000: 05:47:586 (347586|4,347763|4) - especially stuff like this
2017-12-26 19:04 Mentholzzz: hmmm
2017-12-26 19:04 Minseo2000: i suggest that
2017-12-26 19:05 Minseo2000: the parts right before and after the trill
2017-12-26 19:05 Minseo2000: should be emptied out as much as possible
2017-12-26 19:05 Minseo2000: on a note
2017-12-26 19:05 Minseo2000: when checking for awkwardness in the patterns
2017-12-26 19:05 Minseo2000: try turning some LNs into SNs
2017-12-26 19:05 Minseo2000: and some parts
2017-12-26 19:05 Minseo2000: turn
2017-12-26 19:06 Minseo2000: really really awkward looking
2017-12-26 19:07 Mentholzzz: umm
2017-12-26 19:07 Minseo2000: ?
2017-12-26 19:10 Mentholzzz: how to empty the parts before and after the trill :thonk:
2017-12-26 19:10 Minseo2000: hmmm
2017-12-26 19:10 Minseo2000: should i think up of something
2017-12-26 19:10 Mentholzzz: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9854493 is smth like this fine ?
2017-12-26 19:11 Minseo2000: that makes it kinda left hand awkward imo
2017-12-26 19:11 Minseo2000: also
2017-12-26 19:11 Minseo2000: bunny ears
2017-12-26 19:11 Mentholzzz: yes pls
2017-12-26 19:15 Minseo2000: thinking up smth rn
2017-12-26 19:15 Minseo2000: wew this section is dense af
2017-12-26 19:16 Mentholzzz: yeah the whole 2 last kiai is like chordstream
2017-12-26 19:16 Mentholzzz: with some 1/6 and 1/8
2017-12-26 19:16 Minseo2000: and your idea was to put LNs between them smh
2017-12-26 19:17 Mentholzzz: smh
2017-12-26 19:19 Mentholzzz: o well btw shud i nerf the hp and od a bit ?
2017-12-26 19:20 Minseo2000: OD yes
2017-12-26 19:20 Minseo2000: HP maybe not
2017-12-26 19:20 Mentholzzz: OD to 8 ?
2017-12-26 19:20 Mentholzzz: or lower ?
2017-12-26 19:21 Minseo2000: well
2017-12-26 19:21 Minseo2000: that
2017-12-26 19:21 Minseo2000: i'll have to testplay to know
2017-12-26 19:22 Minseo2000: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9854544 https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9854547
2017-12-26 19:23 Minseo2000: something like that maybe
2017-12-26 19:25 Mentholzzz: :thonk:
2017-12-26 19:25 Minseo2000: :thenk:
2017-12-26 19:27 Mentholzzz: ok applied
2017-12-26 19:27 Minseo2000: o
2017-12-26 19:27 Minseo2000: cool
2017-12-26 19:28 Minseo2000: 05:48:204 (348204|2,348292|4,348292|3,348381|2,348469|4,348557|3) - i'll just say that LN trills with SNs between them get rather awkward :c
2017-12-26 19:28 Minseo2000: 05:48:910 (348910|6,348998|4,349086|6,349086|5,349175|4,349263|6) - other way around too
2017-12-26 19:29 Minseo2000: imo it's better if you put the LNs next to each other instead of skipping a column
2017-12-26 19:29 Mentholzzz: wtf
2017-12-26 19:29 Mentholzzz: the first one
2017-12-26 19:29 Mentholzzz: i changed it
2017-12-26 19:29 Mentholzzz: and smh
2017-12-26 19:29 Mentholzzz: its still there smh
2017-12-26 19:29 Minseo2000: it gets alot harder to read if the LNs are placed apart with SNs in between
2017-12-26 19:30 Minseo2000: and considering that most of parodia is not a noodle intensive map
2017-12-26 19:30 Minseo2000: suddenly introducing stuff like this at the very end is a good way troll players
2017-12-26 19:35 Mentholzzz: ok
2017-12-26 19:35 Mentholzzz: fixed smh
2017-12-26 19:35 Minseo2000: lul
2017-12-26 19:35 Minseo2000: then should i skip all those weird trilly LNs with SNs stuck inside thing things
2017-12-26 19:36 Mentholzzz: is there anything else left :thonk:
2017-12-26 19:36 Minseo2000: idk
2017-12-26 19:36 Minseo2000: maybe if i look hard enough
2017-12-26 19:37 Minseo2000: 05:52:616 (352616|4,352704|2,352704|3,352792|4,352792|5,352881|3,352881|2) - uh yea maybe
2017-12-26 19:37 Minseo2000: while you're there
2017-12-26 19:37 Minseo2000: 05:52:792 (352792|0) - pls no :c
2017-12-26 19:37 Minseo2000: this tiny lonely SN is
2017-12-26 19:37 Minseo2000: soooo easy to miss
2017-12-26 19:38 Mentholzzz: tiny lonely Sn in col.1 :thonk:
2017-12-26 19:39 Minseo2000: pls give that sad lonely SN a friend to stay next to
2017-12-26 19:39 Minseo2000: 05:53:233 (353233|6) - this sad lonely SN too
2017-12-26 19:43 Minseo2000: kek
2017-12-26 19:43 Mentholzzz: ok fix both
2017-12-26 19:43 Minseo2000: lul
2017-12-26 19:43 Minseo2000: ok
2017-12-26 19:44 Minseo2000: 05:54:469 - there should be a jack here like at 05:55:175 -
2017-12-26 19:44 Minseo2000: speaking of jack at 05:55:175 -
2017-12-26 19:44 Minseo2000: the jack there is hard af
2017-12-26 19:45 Minseo2000: i suggest that you split the LN stream and the jack into separate hands to make it easier to hit
2017-12-26 19:45 Minseo2000: at the moment the jacks are separated from all the other notes on the two ends of the screen just floating there
2017-12-26 19:45 Mentholzzz: the piano jack here is barely audible tho
2017-12-26 19:45 Mentholzzz: the first one
2017-12-26 19:45 Minseo2000: well
2017-12-26 19:46 Minseo2000: it's still audible
2017-12-26 19:46 Minseo2000: and there is a clear pattern
2017-12-26 19:46 Minseo2000: with the piano jacks
2017-12-26 19:46 Mentholzzz: (in fact i cant hear it smh)
2017-12-26 19:47 Minseo2000: 05:31:881 - 03:14:939 -
2017-12-26 19:47 Minseo2000: 02:07:175 -
2017-12-26 19:47 Minseo2000: the piano jacks
2017-12-26 19:47 Mentholzzz: well yeah
2017-12-26 19:47 Minseo2000: there were always either 2
2017-12-26 19:48 Minseo2000: or 2 sets of 3
2017-12-26 19:48 Mentholzzz: ok added
2017-12-26 19:48 Minseo2000: on a note
2017-12-26 19:48 Minseo2000: 05:53:498 - trill here too
2017-12-26 19:49 Mentholzzz: 1/8 trill ?
2017-12-26 19:49 Minseo2000: for about 1/2
2017-12-26 19:49 Mentholzzz: its 1/8 there
2017-12-26 19:49 Minseo2000: omg it is 1/8
2017-12-26 19:49 Minseo2000: if you think a 1/8 trill is too fast
2017-12-26 19:50 Mentholzzz: 1/8 trill is 170 hammer
2017-12-26 19:50 Minseo2000: something like > should work
2017-12-26 19:50 Minseo2000: lul
2017-12-26 19:50 Minseo2000: >>>>>>
2017-12-26 19:50 Mentholzzz: > ?
2017-12-26 19:50 Minseo2000: 12321
2017-12-26 19:50 Mentholzzz: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ?
2017-12-26 19:50 Mentholzzz: o
2017-12-26 19:50 Minseo2000: lul
2017-12-26 19:51 Minseo2000: but you might have to reduce the chord size of 05:53:498 - if you're goign to keep the current note arrangement
2017-12-26 19:51 Minseo2000: welp fk i have to go eat dinner
2017-12-26 19:51 Mentholzzz: o
2017-12-26 19:51 Minseo2000: ok
2017-12-26 19:51 Minseo2000: we'll have
2017-12-26 19:52 Minseo2000: 2 more irc someday :^)
2017-12-26 19:52 Mentholzzz: :^)
just a bit more to go
⇦to be continued
MadBricktree
maybe i should've posted them all at once
2018-01-02 16:33 Mentholzzz: o w o
2018-01-02 16:34 Minseo2000: o
2018-01-02 16:34 Minseo2000: lemme finish
2018-01-02 16:34 Minseo2000: this first
2018-01-02 16:35 Minseo2000: luckily it's modding v2
2018-01-02 16:35 Mentholzzz: o ok
2018-01-02 16:35 Minseo2000: ur 30 minutes early smh
2018-01-02 16:35 Mentholzzz: ugh well
2018-01-02 17:36 Mentholzzz: o w o
2018-01-02 17:36 Mentholzzz: tfw bad net
2018-01-02 17:36 Minseo2000: rip
2018-01-02 17:37 Minseo2000: so uh where did we stop last time
2018-01-02 17:37 Mentholzzz: 05:53:701 -
2018-01-02 17:37 Mentholzzz: around this ?
2018-01-02 17:38 Minseo2000: ah w/e i'll just start here
2018-01-02 17:38 Minseo2000: 05:49:263 (349263|3) -
2018-01-02 17:38 Minseo2000: hard to read :c
2018-01-02 17:39 Mentholzzz: ok rearrange
2018-01-02 17:40 Minseo2000: http://puu.sh/ySAf3/5cc9de3d92.png
2018-01-02 17:40 Minseo2000: eh
2018-01-02 17:40 Minseo2000: lul
2018-01-02 17:40 Minseo2000: ok
2018-01-02 17:40 Minseo2000: nvm
2018-01-02 17:41 Minseo2000: 05:49:969 (349969|1,350145|1,350322|1) - might be better if u move this anchor to another finger since this column has already had its share of burden previously
2018-01-02 17:41 Minseo2000: 05:49:263 (349263|1,349528|1,349704|1) -
2018-01-02 17:42 Minseo2000: eg http://puu.sh/ySAiN/3534416590.png
2018-01-02 17:42 Minseo2000: o fk anchor at col 4 in that ss
2018-01-02 17:42 Minseo2000: move 05:50:851 (350851|3) - this or smth i guess
2018-01-02 17:43 Mentholzzz: ok
2018-01-02 17:44 Minseo2000: 05:54:292 (354292|5,354381|6,354381|3,354469|4,354557|6) - u might want to try simplifying this since there's a jack right next to it
2018-01-02 17:45 Mentholzzz: oki
2018-01-02 17:46 Minseo2000: http://puu.sh/ySAsa/393c275cff.png smth like this maybe
2018-01-02 17:48 Mentholzzz: 05:54:381 (354381|2,354469|1,354469|0,354557|0,354557|1) - but this tho :thonk:
2018-01-02 17:48 Mentholzzz: is it okay ?
2018-01-02 17:49 Minseo2000: it should be easier than trying to hit a chordjack and a weird LN at the same time
2018-01-02 17:49 Minseo2000: and it gets quite easy since notes are clumped up
2018-01-02 17:49 Minseo2000: making them nice and comfortable to read
2018-01-02 17:49 Mentholzzz: hmm k
2018-01-02 17:50 Minseo2000: alternatively u can move 05:54:381 (354381|2) - to col 7
2018-01-02 17:50 Minseo2000: actually that might be better :thenkeng:
2018-01-02 17:50 Minseo2000: lemme test
2018-01-02 17:50 Minseo2000: ok a bit more comfortable if u move that to col 7
2018-01-02 17:51 Mentholzzz: oo ok
2018-01-02 17:52 Minseo2000: 05:58:439 - OH trill surrounded again
2018-01-02 17:53 Mentholzzz: i try to make it cleaner alrdy
2018-01-02 17:53 Minseo2000: o
2018-01-02 17:53 Mentholzzz: guess that dont clean enough :sadprot:
2018-01-02 17:53 Minseo2000: lemme think of smth
2018-01-02 17:53 Minseo2000: and do some PR while im at it
2018-01-02 17:54 Minseo2000: nvm doing PR here is awful
2018-01-02 17:55 Mentholzzz: lol
2018-01-02 17:56 Minseo2000: http://puu.sh/ySAMc/57e09ec1e6.png something something
2018-01-02 17:56 Minseo2000: could be a bit too monodirectional
2018-01-02 17:57 Mentholzzz: tfw mindhacked
2018-01-02 17:57 Minseo2000: :^)
2018-01-02 17:58 Mentholzzz: i edit myself and the different is only like 2 notes
2018-01-02 17:58 Mentholzzz: s m h
2018-01-02 18:01 Mentholzzz: :thenkeng:
2018-01-02 18:01 Minseo2000: lul
2018-01-02 18:01 Minseo2000: ok
2018-01-02 18:01 Minseo2000: this part
2018-01-02 18:01 Minseo2000: 06:00:910 -
2018-01-02 18:01 Minseo2000: a bit awkward at around 06:01:263 - here-ish
2018-01-02 18:02 Minseo2000: http://puu.sh/ySAZx/6f09c75f15.png maybe try smth like this?
2018-01-02 18:02 Minseo2000: PR is bonus
2018-01-02 18:02 Mentholzzz: thats look too rolly tho :^)
2018-01-02 18:02 Minseo2000: that's why there's 06:01:616 (361616|6) - this to trip ppl up :^)
2018-01-02 18:03 Minseo2000: not very mashable cuz of 06:01:307 (361307|2,361351|3,361395|4,361439|5) - this
2018-01-02 18:03 Mentholzzz: h m m
2018-01-02 18:05 Mentholzzz: hmm yeah oki
2018-01-02 18:05 Minseo2000: 06:04:086 - short LNs here are random af >:(
2018-01-02 18:07 Mentholzzz: when and why did i put it there :thonk:
2018-01-02 18:07 Minseo2000: http://puu.sh/ySBbl/80a0e30f80.png if u really do want to add some extra difficulty try this
2018-01-02 18:07 Minseo2000: it should be fine cuz PR
2018-01-02 18:07 Minseo2000: and rather predictable
2018-01-02 18:08 Mentholzzz: thats stack reee lul
2018-01-02 18:08 Mentholzzz: ok
2018-01-02 18:09 Minseo2000: lul it's at the very end now
2018-01-02 18:09 Minseo2000: huh
2018-01-02 18:09 Minseo2000: ok next time i mod
2018-01-02 18:09 Mentholzzz: o btw
2018-01-02 18:09 Minseo2000: i'll play through the whole thing again
2018-01-02 18:09 Mentholzzz: 04:56:322 - the whole part here
2018-01-02 18:09 Minseo2000: ?
2018-01-02 18:10 Mentholzzz: is it correct by pr ?
2018-01-02 18:10 Minseo2000: somewhat accurate
2018-01-02 18:10 Minseo2000: though not completely
2018-01-02 18:10 Minseo2000: should i go over that too?
2018-01-02 18:10 Mentholzzz: a bit
2018-01-02 18:11 Minseo2000: i'll go over it next time xd
2018-01-02 18:11 Minseo2000: can u update so that i can testplay it once before stopping
2018-01-02 18:11 Mentholzzz: ok xd
2018-01-02 18:11 Mentholzzz: ok
2018-01-02 18:12 Minseo2000: parodia best ice song imo
2018-01-02 18:12 Mentholzzz: ok updated
2018-01-02 18:13 Mentholzzz: i love amber wishes more tho
2018-01-02 18:13 Mentholzzz: lol
2018-01-02 18:13 Minseo2000: ok gonna testplay once
2018-01-02 18:13 Minseo2000: and see if i can find anything
2018-01-02 18:14 Minseo2000: 1 : intro PR
2018-01-02 18:14 Minseo2000: gonna go over that again next irc
2018-01-02 18:14 Mentholzzz: o lol
2018-01-02 18:15 Minseo2000: 2 : part after intro hand balance
2018-01-02 18:15 Mentholzzz: :thenk:
2018-01-02 18:15 Minseo2000: right hand heavy atm imo
2018-01-02 18:16 Minseo2000: o right i haven't gone over the remapped section
2018-01-02 18:16 Minseo2000: 3 : go over remapped section
2018-01-02 18:16 Minseo2000: no big issues but small things here and there
2018-01-02 18:16 Minseo2000: also
2018-01-02 18:16 Minseo2000: ignore my random misses here and there pls :^)
2018-01-02 18:16 Mentholzzz: o lul
2018-01-02 18:18 Minseo2000: no trill there???
2018-01-02 18:21 Minseo2000: lul
2018-01-02 18:21 Minseo2000: cool i can't do that last section without warmup
2018-01-02 18:21 Minseo2000: not enough stam
2018-01-02 18:21 Minseo2000: ok w/e
2018-01-02 18:21 Minseo2000: 4 : go over var II intro section playability
2018-01-02 18:22 Mentholzzz: tfw my spec just start the 1/6 oh trill part
2018-01-02 18:22 Minseo2000: wao wtf
2018-01-02 18:22 Minseo2000: stuff i can point out rn
2018-01-02 18:22 Minseo2000: 03:33:733 - y no trill
2018-01-02 18:23 Mentholzzz: space timeeeee
2018-01-02 18:23 Minseo2000: 04:47:851 - ~ 04:50:675 - could have violin trill :^)
2018-01-02 18:23 Minseo2000: 05:12:910 (312910|6,313086|6,313263|6,313439|6,313616|6,313792|6,313969|6,314145|6,314322|6,314498|6,314675|6) - 05:13:086 (313086|2,313263|2,313439|2,313616|2,313792|2,313969|2) - wadafak mentos
2018-01-02 18:24 Minseo2000: that's all for today i guess
2018-01-02 18:24 Mentholzzz: o its still there smh
2018-01-02 18:24 Mentholzzz: i thought i kill it
2018-01-02 18:25 Minseo2000: o lul
2018-01-02 18:25 Minseo2000: ok
2018-01-02 18:25 Minseo2000: fk bancho
2018-01-02 18:25 Minseo2000: ok
2018-01-02 18:25 Minseo2000: i'll stop here for now
2018-01-02 18:25 Minseo2000: eeeeeeeeee
2018-01-02 18:25 Mentholzzz: ok
2018-01-02 18:25 Minseo2000: this took much longer than expected
2018-01-02 18:25 Mentholzzz: eeeeee
2018-01-02 18:25 Minseo2000: lul
2018-01-02 18:26 Minseo2000: i was only going to spent 30 minutes on this today ?? :D ??
2018-01-02 18:26 Minseo2000: w/e
2018-01-02 18:26 Minseo2000: poke me again
2018-01-02 18:26 Minseo2000: on another day
2018-01-02 18:26 Mentholzzz: ?? :D ??
2018-01-02 18:26 Minseo2000: i guess
2018-01-02 18:26 Mentholzzz: ~~tmr~~
2018-01-02 18:26 Minseo2000: maybe tmr
2018-01-02 18:26 Minseo2000: idk what i'll do tmr
2018-01-02 18:26 Minseo2000: so ye
2018-01-02 18:26 Mentholzzz: wait no
2018-01-02 18:26 Minseo2000: go ahead and poke
2018-01-02 18:26 Mentholzzz: not tmr
2018-01-02 18:27 Mentholzzz: prob thursday
⇦to be continued
MadBricktree
irc
2018-01-04 17:28 Mentholzzz: o w o
2018-01-04 17:28 Minseo2000: well
2018-01-04 17:28 Minseo2000: i'd like to mod rn
2018-01-04 17:28 Minseo2000: but
2018-01-04 17:29 Mentholzzz: :sadprot:
2018-01-04 17:29 Minseo2000: i just took a shower so my hair is wet :^)
2018-01-04 17:29 Minseo2000: so im playing oss without audio atm
2018-01-04 17:29 Mentholzzz: o lol
2018-01-04 17:29 Minseo2000: it should take about
2018-01-04 17:29 Minseo2000: uh
2018-01-04 17:29 Minseo2000: 10 minutes to dry
2018-01-04 17:29 Minseo2000: cuz im using a fan rn
2018-01-04 17:29 Mentholzzz: o ok
2018-01-04 17:29 Minseo2000: r u going to be alive then
2018-01-04 17:29 Mentholzzz: yes
2018-01-04 17:30 Minseo2000: ok i'll poke again after 10 minutes
2018-01-04 17:30 Minseo2000: hopefully i'll remember
2018-01-04 17:30 Mentholzzz: :thonk:
2018-01-04 17:30 Mentholzzz: or shud i go eat my dinner very quick
2018-01-04 17:31 Mentholzzz: would take like 15 mins
2018-01-04 17:47 Minseo2000: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1427008 Ice - Parodia Sonatina -Grande- [7K The Final Symphony]]
2018-01-04 17:47 Minseo2000: .-.
2018-01-04 17:54 Mentholzzz: owo
2018-01-04 17:54 Mentholzzz: OwO
2018-01-04 17:54 Mentholzzz: OWO
2018-01-04 17:54 Mentholzzz: o w o
2018-01-04 17:54 Mentholzzz: O w O
2018-01-04 17:54 Minseo2000: ok only modding for a short while :x
2018-01-04 17:54 Mentholzzz: O W O
2018-01-04 17:54 Mentholzzz: o
2018-01-04 17:55 Mentholzzz: part 6 inc.
2018-01-04 17:55 Minseo2000: :^)
2018-01-04 17:55 Minseo2000: 00:07:520 - higher pitched than previous note
2018-01-04 17:55 Minseo2000: wait
2018-01-04 17:55 Minseo2000: nvm
2018-01-04 17:55 Minseo2000: fk this new headphone is so uncomfortable
2018-01-04 17:55 Mentholzzz: smh
2018-01-04 17:56 Minseo2000: ok im not really sure about the note at 00:07:520 -
2018-01-04 17:56 Minseo2000: so ask poly some other time or smth i guess
2018-01-04 17:56 Minseo2000: ok
2018-01-04 17:56 Minseo2000: 00:08:145 - this is lower pitched than the previous note
2018-01-04 17:56 Mentholzzz: ok
2018-01-04 17:57 Mentholzzz: fix
2018-01-04 17:57 Minseo2000: 00:11:020 (11020|4,11145|2,11270|0,11395|2,11520|4) - reversed pitch
2018-01-04 17:57 Minseo2000: it goes up and down, not down and up
2018-01-04 17:57 Minseo2000: 00:11:520 - this note is, however, higher pitched than the previous note
2018-01-04 17:59 Mentholzzz: fix
2018-01-04 17:59 Minseo2000: 100:11:770 (11770|2,11895|3,12020|2,12145|1) - reverse
2018-01-04 18:00 Mentholzzz: fix
2018-01-04 18:00 Minseo2000: 00:15:645 (15645|6,15770|5,15895|4) - reverse
2018-01-04 18:00 Minseo2000: 00:16:145 (16145|4,16270|0,16270|5,16395|1) - here too
2018-01-04 18:01 Minseo2000: basically it goes 00:15:520 - ~ 00:16:020 - up 00:16:020 - low pitch note 00:16:020 - ~ 00:16:270 - up 00:16:270 - ~ 00:16:520 - down
2018-01-04 18:01 Mentholzzz: fix
2018-01-04 18:01 Minseo2000: ok
2018-01-04 18:01 Minseo2000: 00:17:270 - higher pitch than previous note
2018-01-04 18:02 Minseo2000: 00:17:520 - lower
2018-01-04 18:02 Minseo2000: fml it's hard to do PR with this headphones
2018-01-04 18:02 Minseo2000: my old headphone's audio jack broke smh
2018-01-04 18:03 Mentholzzz: rip & fix
2018-01-04 18:03 Minseo2000: 00:17:770 - ~ 00:18:270 - always up here
2018-01-04 18:04 Mentholzzz: fix
2018-01-04 18:04 Minseo2000: 00:19:020 (19020|3,19145|4,19270|5) - reverse
2018-01-04 18:05 Mentholzzz: fix
2018-01-04 18:05 Minseo2000: 00:19:770 - ~ 00:20:270 - the other piano notes
2018-01-04 18:05 Minseo2000: the slightly quieter ones
2018-01-04 18:05 Minseo2000: goes up in pitch constantly
2018-01-04 18:05 Minseo2000: unlike the main piano notes
2018-01-04 18:06 Mentholzzz: fix
2018-01-04 18:06 Minseo2000: 00:20:770 - ~ 00:21:520 - constantly down in this case
2018-01-04 18:07 Minseo2000: 00:21:395 - actually not sure if there is a lower pitched piano note here tbh
2018-01-04 18:11 Mentholzzz: uhhhhh
2018-01-04 18:11 Minseo2000: =\
2018-01-04 18:11 Mentholzzz: fuk net
2018-01-04 18:11 Minseo2000: rip af
2018-01-04 18:11 Minseo2000: ok
2018-01-04 18:11 Mentholzzz: did u post anything after 00:21:395 - one ?
2018-01-04 18:12 Minseo2000: nope
2018-01-04 18:12 Minseo2000: i've been waiting for u
2018-01-04 18:12 Mentholzzz: ok
2018-01-04 18:12 Minseo2000: 00:23:020 - ~ 00:25:270 - ok this part
2018-01-04 18:12 Minseo2000: i'll call the higher pitched piano primary and the lower pitched secondary
2018-01-04 18:12 Minseo2000: 00:23:020 - ~ 00:23:520 - secondary constantly lower
2018-01-04 18:13 Minseo2000: 00:23:020 - ~ 00:23:270 - primary higher
2018-01-04 18:13 Minseo2000: 00:23:270 - ~ 00:23:520 - primary lower
2018-01-04 18:14 Minseo2000: 00:23:645 - ~ primary lower 00:23:645 - note here higher pitched than previous
2018-01-04 18:14 Mentholzzz: ok
2018-01-04 18:15 Mentholzzz: wew
2018-01-04 18:15 Minseo2000: 00:23:645 - ~ 00:24:270 - secondary higher, 00:23:520 - note here higher than previous and succeeding
2018-01-04 18:15 Minseo2000: 00:24:270 - ~ 00:25:145 - secondary lower
2018-01-04 18:16 Minseo2000: 00:24:020 - higher than previous, 00:24:145 - lower than previous. 00:24:270 - higher than previous, 00:24:395 - higher than previous, 00:24:520 - same as previous
2018-01-04 18:16 Mentholzzz: ok
2018-01-04 18:16 Minseo2000: lul
2018-01-04 18:17 Mentholzzz: secondary or primary ?
2018-01-04 18:17 Minseo2000: primary
2018-01-04 18:17 Minseo2000: fk
2018-01-04 18:17 Minseo2000: i forgot to mention that
2018-01-04 18:17 Minseo2000: lul
2018-01-04 18:19 Mentholzzz: fix
2018-01-04 18:20 Minseo2000: 00:25:520 - ~ 00:27:520 - will do this part and close oss for today :c
2018-01-04 18:20 Minseo2000: 00:25:520 - ~ 00:25:770 - primary lower
2018-01-04 18:20 Minseo2000: 00:25:770 - ~ 00:26:020 - primary highert
2018-01-04 18:20 Minseo2000: *higher
2018-01-04 18:21 Minseo2000: 00:26:020 - ~ 00:26:270 - primary lower
2018-01-04 18:21 Minseo2000: 00:26:270 - ~ 00:26:520 - primary higher
2018-01-04 18:21 Minseo2000: 00:26:520 - ~ 00:26:770 - primary lower
2018-01-04 18:21 Minseo2000: 00:26:770 - 00:27:020 - primary higher
2018-01-04 18:22 Mentholzzz: 76567656765676567
2018-01-04 18:22 Minseo2000: 00:27:020 - lower pitched than previous and next
2018-01-04 18:22 Minseo2000: 00:27:145 - higher than previous
2018-01-04 18:22 Minseo2000: 00:27:270 - ^
2018-01-04 18:22 Minseo2000: 00:27:395 - lower than previous
2018-01-04 18:23 Minseo2000: 00:25:770 - ~ 00:26:270 - secondary constantly higher
2018-01-04 18:23 Minseo2000: 00:26:395 - no secondary here
2018-01-04 18:23 Minseo2000: 00:26:770 - ~ 00:27:020 - secondary higher
2018-01-04 18:23 Minseo2000: 00:27:020 - ~ 00:27:270 - secondary lower
2018-01-04 18:24 Minseo2000: 00:27:395 - no secondary
2018-01-04 18:25 Mentholzzz: fix all
2018-01-04 18:25 Minseo2000: lul
2018-01-04 18:26 Minseo2000: ok
2018-01-04 18:26 Minseo2000: i should
2018-01-04 18:26 Minseo2000: close oss
2018-01-04 18:26 Minseo2000: :x
2018-01-04 18:26 Mentholzzz: :x
2018-01-04 18:26 Minseo2000: on a note
2018-01-04 18:26 Minseo2000: i tried the 4k diff while u were afk
2018-01-04 18:26 Minseo2000: i think u should just put trills at parts like 01:18:204 -
2018-01-04 18:26 Minseo2000: :^)
2018-01-04 18:27 Mentholzzz: :^)
2018-01-04 18:27 Mentholzzz: i havent touch 4k one for ages lol
2018-01-04 18:27 Mentholzzz: but well
2018-01-04 18:27 Mentholzzz: people really hate 255 trill in 4k lol
2018-01-04 18:27 Minseo2000: cuz it's spiky
2018-01-04 18:28 Minseo2000: it comes out all of a sudden without warning
2018-01-04 18:28 Minseo2000: but it can't be a spike if said trills are all over the map :^)
2018-01-04 18:28 Mentholzzz: o
2018-01-04 18:28 Mentholzzz: :^)
2018-01-04 18:28 Mentholzzz: ok
2018-01-04 18:28 Mentholzzz: lemme change all 1/6 pattern to trill :^)
2018-01-04 18:28 Minseo2000: i can also try going over 4k if i have time left after i finish 7k :^)
2018-01-04 18:29 Minseo2000: o well
2018-01-04 18:29 Minseo2000: imma close oss rn
2018-01-04 18:29 Minseo2000: poke me on discord if u need anything
2018-01-07 12:39 Mentholzzz: o w o
2018-01-07 12:40 Minseo2000: o
2018-01-07 12:40 Minseo2000: ugh
2018-01-07 12:40 Minseo2000: lemme testplay parodia rn
2018-01-07 12:40 Minseo2000: and see if we can have the final irc rn
2018-01-07 12:46 Minseo2000: fk u
2018-01-07 12:46 Mentholzzz: rip
2018-01-07 12:47 Minseo2000: i'm not doing that without warmup
2018-01-07 12:47 Minseo2000: 00:30:145 (30145|5) - lower pitched than previous note
2018-01-07 12:49 Minseo2000: 00:31:020 - ~ 00:31:520 - secondary pitch goes down constantly here
2018-01-07 12:49 Mentholzzz: ok
2018-01-07 12:50 Minseo2000: 00:33:734 - ~ 00:54:910 - right hand heavy
2018-01-07 12:50 Minseo2000: most of the 1/2 stacks are on the right hand
2018-01-07 12:50 Mentholzzz: ok
2018-01-07 12:51 Minseo2000: 00:37:881 (37881|6,37881|5,37969|4,38057|5,38057|6,38145|4) - stuff like this comes out while the left hand does 00:37:792 (37792|0,37792|2,37969|1,38145|2) -
2018-01-07 12:51 Minseo2000: and all double 1/2 stacks are on the right hand
2018-01-07 12:51 Minseo2000: 00:49:969 (49969|0,50145|0,50322|5,50322|0,50498|5,50675|5) - unrelated but there are these too
2018-01-07 12:53 Minseo2000: might be impossible to avoid both so try to reduce it to just one
2018-01-07 12:53 Minseo2000: eg. http://puu.sh/yVYfz/76a1fb9f33.png
2018-01-07 12:54 Mentholzzz: ok moved
2018-01-07 12:54 Minseo2000: 00:52:086 (52086|6,52175|4,52263|6,52439|4,52528|6,52616|4) - awkward
2018-01-07 12:54 Minseo2000: 00:52:086 (52086|3,52175|4,52175|2) - bunny ears get awkward very easily
2018-01-07 12:55 Mentholzzz: ok fix
2018-01-07 12:56 Minseo2000: try to look for stuff like that in other parts
2018-01-07 12:56 Minseo2000: cuz they're everywhere
2018-01-07 12:56 Minseo2000: skipping to 01:30:204 -
2018-01-07 12:56 Minseo2000: 01:30:028 (90028|5,90204|5,90381|5,90645|5,90822|5,91086|5,91263|5) - finger balance pls
2018-01-07 12:58 Mentholzzz: moved
2018-01-07 12:58 Minseo2000: 01:35:498 (95498|5,95586|6,95675|5,95763|4,95851|5,95939|4) - trilly af
2018-01-07 12:58 Minseo2000: move some to left hand pls
2018-01-07 12:59 Mentholzzz: ok
2018-01-07 12:59 Minseo2000: 01:37:086 (97086|0) - sad lonely note
2018-01-07 13:00 Minseo2000: rly easy to miss
2018-01-07 13:00 Mentholzzz: moved
2018-01-07 13:00 Minseo2000: 01:38:939 (98939|5,99028|6) - flip maybe
2018-01-07 13:00 Minseo2000: so that it connects to the stream
2018-01-07 13:01 Mentholzzz: fixed it
2018-01-07 13:01 Mentholzzz: :D
2018-01-07 13:01 Minseo2000: 02:31:263 - ~ 02:34:439 - question: is it just me or did this section change
2018-01-07 13:02 Mentholzzz: it change only a few tho
2018-01-07 13:02 Minseo2000: icic
2018-01-07 13:02 Minseo2000: it just felt unfamiliar
2018-01-07 13:02 Minseo2000: lul
2018-01-07 13:02 Minseo2000: 02:37:439 (157439|6) - sad lonely note again
2018-01-07 13:03 Minseo2000: kinda easy to overlook
2018-01-07 13:03 Mentholzzz: ok
2018-01-07 13:03 Minseo2000: 02:57:557 (177557|5,177733|5,177910|1,177910|5,178086|5,178086|1,178263|1,178439|1) - smh
2018-01-07 13:04 Minseo2000: u should
2018-01-07 13:04 Minseo2000: uh
2018-01-07 13:04 Minseo2000: map with lower zoom when dealing with denser sections
2018-01-07 13:06 Mentholzzz: ok
2018-01-07 13:08 Minseo2000: currently thinking up of smthj
2018-01-07 13:08 Minseo2000: or did u fix that section already by urself
2018-01-07 13:09 Minseo2000: http://puu.sh/yVYJ9/24c6814a66.png smth smth
2018-01-07 13:10 Mentholzzz: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9950802
2018-01-07 13:10 Minseo2000: creates an anchor at col 5 at the very end of the section but that's hard af to remove due to the density
2018-01-07 13:10 Minseo2000: :thonk:
2018-01-07 13:11 Mentholzzz: tfw posting idea at the same time
2018-01-07 13:11 Minseo2000: ye that works too i guess
2018-01-07 13:11 Minseo2000: 03:28:175 (208175|3,208263|5,208351|3,208528|4,208616|6,208704|4) - why so trilly all of a sudden
2018-01-07 13:13 Mentholzzz: changge
2018-01-07 13:13 Minseo2000: 03:42:645 - missing piano note here i think
2018-01-07 13:14 Mentholzzz: its overlapped
2018-01-07 13:14 Mentholzzz: lul
2018-01-07 13:14 Minseo2000: 03:46:528 (226528|5,226616|6) - awkward
2018-01-07 13:14 Minseo2000: 03:47:498 (227498|6,227498|4,227586|5) - this too
2018-01-07 13:15 Minseo2000: 03:47:895 (227895|4,227939|2,227983|1,228028|3) - ^
2018-01-07 13:15 Mentholzzz: fix all
2018-01-07 13:16 Minseo2000: 03:55:704 (235704|3,235704|1,235792|2) -
2018-01-07 13:16 Minseo2000: 03:55:881 (235881|4,235969|1,235969|3,236057|0) -
2018-01-07 13:16 Minseo2000: stream is really broken even tho there are so many LNs
2018-01-07 13:16 Minseo2000: alot more than the other sections imo
2018-01-07 13:17 Minseo2000: 03:54:557 (234557|5,234733|5,234998|5,235175|5) - also this
2018-01-07 13:17 Minseo2000: finger balance maybe
2018-01-07 13:19 Minseo2000: http://puu.sh/yVYZU/82a25409b3.png smth like this maybe
2018-01-07 13:21 Mentholzzz: ok
2018-01-07 13:21 Mentholzzz: fixed (?)
2018-01-07 13:21 Minseo2000: 03:59:851 (239851|6) - this LN has a pretty big impact on the difficulty of this section
2018-01-07 13:22 Minseo2000: really shifts alot of focus to the right hand
2018-01-07 13:23 Mentholzzz: umm
2018-01-07 13:23 Minseo2000: :?
2018-01-07 13:23 Mentholzzz: shud i delet it ?
2018-01-07 13:23 Mentholzzz: and do similar thing to 04:03:381 -
2018-01-07 13:23 Minseo2000: that's what i'd suggest
2018-01-07 13:24 Minseo2000: it takes alot more effot to hold a LN and hit a few short LNs
2018-01-07 13:24 Minseo2000: than to hit a few extra notes with a few short LNs
2018-01-07 13:24 Minseo2000: you'd probably want to have the hand without the trill as easy as possible so that most of the attention can go to the hand with the trill
2018-01-07 13:25 Mentholzzz: i want to keep the LN tho :thenk: can i change the short LNs to rice
2018-01-07 13:25 Mentholzzz: ?
2018-01-07 13:25 Mentholzzz: it would be a bit easier imo
2018-01-07 13:25 Minseo2000: nah
2018-01-07 13:25 Minseo2000: just a bit
2018-01-07 13:26 Minseo2000: but u see
2018-01-07 13:26 Minseo2000: that LN being there
2018-01-07 13:26 Minseo2000: means that ur holding your ring finger down
2018-01-07 13:26 Minseo2000: while continuously moving your middle finger
2018-01-07 13:26 Minseo2000: wait
2018-01-07 13:26 Minseo2000: index
2018-01-07 13:26 Minseo2000: and later ur middle
2018-01-07 13:26 Minseo2000: all the while smashing ur left hand
2018-01-07 13:27 Mentholzzz: uh
2018-01-07 13:27 Mentholzzz: ok
2018-01-07 13:27 Mentholzzz: gonna delet it
2018-01-07 13:27 Minseo2000: yes
2018-01-07 13:27 Minseo2000: delet it
2018-01-07 13:27 Minseo2000: >:D
2018-01-07 13:28 Mentholzzz: :D
2018-01-07 13:28 Mentholzzz: ~~inb4 move LN to spacebar :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD~~
2018-01-07 13:28 Minseo2000: >:(
2018-01-07 13:28 Minseo2000: that'd be worse
2018-01-07 13:29 Minseo2000: cuz left spacers will die
2018-01-07 13:29 Mentholzzz: ~~how about column 2~~
2018-01-07 13:29 Minseo2000: that'll kill almost anybody
2018-01-07 13:29 Minseo2000: :^)
2018-01-07 13:29 Mentholzzz: :^)
2018-01-07 13:29 Minseo2000: the whole point of making those trills OH is so that it gets easier to mash
2018-01-07 13:30 Minseo2000: but u can't mash with a LN getting in the way
2018-01-07 13:30 Minseo2000: >:x
2018-01-07 13:30 Minseo2000: moving on
2018-01-07 13:30 Mentholzzz: ok
2018-01-07 13:30 Minseo2000: 04:41:498 - http://puu.sh/yVZjz/bebbe46c54.png
2018-01-07 13:30 Minseo2000: PR maybe
2018-01-07 13:31 Minseo2000: actually would be even better if 04:42:204 (282204|6) - this was on the left hand but that means you'll have to move the jacks
2018-01-07 13:31 Minseo2000: actually
2018-01-07 13:31 Minseo2000: it might be better if u move the jacks cuz the second jacks are lower pitched than the next
2018-01-07 13:31 Minseo2000: *first
2018-01-07 13:33 Mentholzzz: moved
2018-01-07 13:34 Minseo2000: 04:48:204 - ok this part
2018-01-07 13:34 Minseo2000: what to do
2018-01-07 13:34 Minseo2000: uhhhhhhhhhhhh
2018-01-07 13:34 Minseo2000: it actually is playable as is
2018-01-07 13:35 Minseo2000: but it gets a bit too sudden imo
2018-01-07 13:35 Mentholzzz: remove the spacebar ?
2018-01-07 13:35 Minseo2000: u can try that
2018-01-07 13:35 Minseo2000: or maybe u can try making the whole thing completely trilly
2018-01-07 13:36 Mentholzzz: ?
2018-01-07 13:36 Minseo2000: make the SNs trilly too
2018-01-07 13:36 Minseo2000: along with the LNs
2018-01-07 13:38 Mentholzzz: :thonk:
2018-01-07 13:38 Minseo2000: http://puu.sh/yVZy6/7f2288a422.png smth like this maybe
2018-01-07 13:39 Minseo2000: just a rough idea so pls don't copy screenshot completely
2018-01-07 13:39 Minseo2000: it may or may not play horribly
2018-01-07 13:40 Mentholzzz: o lol
2018-01-07 13:41 Minseo2000: 04:56:322 - ~ 05:04:792 - might be a bit right hand heavy
2018-01-07 13:41 Minseo2000: it's more broken on the right hand
2018-01-07 13:42 Minseo2000: with more stacking too
2018-01-07 13:44 Mentholzzz: ok
2018-01-07 13:45 Minseo2000: 05:12:910 - ~ 05:14:675 - ugh this part
2018-01-07 13:45 Minseo2000: uhhhhhhhhhh
2018-01-07 13:45 Minseo2000: since it does seem impossible to avoid anchors on this section
2018-01-07 13:46 Minseo2000: maybe u should make the anchors more orderly
2018-01-07 13:47 Minseo2000: perhaps you can try alternating left and right?
2018-01-07 13:48 Mentholzzz: hmm
2018-01-07 13:51 Mentholzzz: uuuuu
2018-01-07 13:52 Minseo2000: tried focusing on readability instead of hand balance
2018-01-07 13:52 Minseo2000: http://puu.sh/yVZVM/d0ca61233e.png
2018-01-07 13:53 Minseo2000: might be slightly right hand heavy but it should be easier to read since bigger chords are clumped up and every note is connected into a dense stream
2018-01-07 13:53 Minseo2000: while the weirdly snapped notes are arranged to be more easily manipulated
2018-01-07 13:54 Mentholzzz: ok
2018-01-07 13:55 Minseo2000: 05:15:439 (315439|5,315498|4,315557|5,315616|4,315733|4) - pls
2018-01-07 13:55 Minseo2000: why only on the right hand :x
2018-01-07 13:58 Minseo2000: speaking of sad right hands
2018-01-07 13:58 Minseo2000: 05:22:792 (322792|5,322969|5,323145|5,323322|5) -
2018-01-07 13:58 Minseo2000: 05:27:910 (327910|5,328086|5,328263|5,328439|5) -
2018-01-07 13:58 Minseo2000: lul
2018-01-07 13:59 Mentholzzz: w
2018-01-07 14:00 Minseo2000: that actually takes us to the very last section
2018-01-07 14:00 Minseo2000: which looks mostly fine as is since i already went over it last last time
2018-01-07 14:00 Minseo2000: so last thing before we're completely done with these awfully long irc mods
2018-01-07 14:00 Minseo2000: 05:39:381 (339381|0,339557|0,339733|0,339910|0) -
2018-01-07 14:01 Mentholzzz: lol
2018-01-07 14:01 Minseo2000: maybe u can move 05:39:733 (339733|0) - to col 6 since PR wise the piano at 05:39:733 - is higher pitched than the previous
2018-01-07 14:02 Mentholzzz: k
2018-01-07 14:02 Minseo2000: ugh
2018-01-07 14:02 Minseo2000: are we finally done3
2018-01-07 14:02 Minseo2000: *done
2018-01-07 14:02 Mentholzzz: prob
2018-01-07 14:02 Minseo2000: eeeeeeeeeeeeee
2018-01-07 14:02 Minseo2000: gratz to us
2018-01-07 14:02 Minseo2000: kek
2018-01-07 14:02 Mentholzzz: eeeeeeeeeeee
2018-01-07 14:02 Minseo2000: eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
2018-01-07 14:02 Minseo2000: ok now go rank it plsw
2018-01-07 14:02 Minseo2000: *pls
2018-01-07 14:03 Mentholzzz: time to spam lulu :D
2018-01-07 14:03 Minseo2000: ye
finally done
pls rank
RedBall
Hi

Just a random modding owo (I finally knew what parodia meant! *shot*)

| 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 |

4K Rondo of the Euphoria

00:19:770 (19770|1) - move to column 4 // it would be better to follow the emphasis on the piano sound
00:34:881 - 00:37:704 - These seem to be missing note considering 00:40:528 (40528|2) - 00:43:351 (43351|2) - these // There are sound
Same issues on 00:46:175 - 00:48:998 - 00:51:822 // Are these intentional?
00:54:028 - add a note on column 1 // There is a strong bass which you followed at 00:54:381 (54381|0,54381|1)
02:34:616 (154616|1) - move to column 1 AND 02:34:704 - add a note on column 2 // Considering 02:33:910 (153910|1,153998|2) - this part

02:07:086 (127086|2) - I think deleting this kind of note would be nicer to emphasize 02:07:175 (127175|1,127263|1) - this part. Just like what you did at 7K
// Time stamps for easy access :^) 02:07:792 (127792|1) - 03:14:851 (194851|2) - 03:15:557 (195557|1) - 05:31:792 (331792|1) - 05:32:498 (332498|2) -
// You can just ignore this suggestion because 02:38:145 (158145|1) - this kind of note can't be deleted because of hitsound :( , which breaks consistency. I mentioned this just since you did like this in your 7K map. and I'm prefer deleting it :^)

05:12:792 (312792|1) - It is snapped at 1/6 but, it is snapped at 1/4 in the 7k map. D:?
05:53:557 (353557|2) - It is snapped at 1/6 but, it is snapped at 1/8 in the 7k map. D:??
passing 7k map because I'm too noob to play it

nice map and song btw, GL!
Topic Starter
Mentholzzz

RedBall wrote:

Hi

Just a random modding owo (I finally knew what parodia meant! *shot*)

| 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 |

4K Rondo of the Euphoria

00:19:770 (19770|1) - move to column 4 // it would be better to follow the emphasis on the piano sound I would keep it to follow the pr in the right-hand piano here.
00:34:881 - 00:37:704 - These seem to be missing note considering 00:40:528 (40528|2) - 00:43:351 (43351|2) - these // There are sound
Same issues on 00:46:175 - 00:48:998 - 00:51:822 // Are these intentional? woops
00:54:028 - add a note on column 1 // There is a strong bass which you followed at 00:54:381 (54381|0,54381|1) ok
02:34:616 (154616|1) - move to column 1 AND 02:34:704 - add a note on column 2 // Considering 02:33:910 (153910|1,153998|2) - this part wew find out i actually miss a lot of piano sound :^)

02:07:086 (127086|2) - I think deleting this kind of note would be nicer to emphasize 02:07:175 (127175|1,127263|1) - this part. Just like what you did at 7K
// Time stamps for easy access :^) 02:07:792 (127792|1) - 03:14:851 (194851|2) - 03:15:557 (195557|1) - 05:31:792 (331792|1) - 05:32:498 (332498|2) -
// You can just ignore this suggestion because 02:38:145 (158145|1) - this kind of note can't be deleted because of hitsound :( , which breaks consistency. I mentioned this just since you did like this in your 7K map. and I'm prefer deleting it :^) ok

05:12:792 (312792|1) - It is snapped at 1/6 but, it is snapped at 1/4 in the 7k map. D:? woopsssss
05:53:557 (353557|2) - It is snapped at 1/6 but, it is snapped at 1/8 in the 7k map. D:??
woopssss [2]
passing 7k map because I'm too noob to play it

nice map and song btw, GL! thx :D
lucari0lu
4k Rondo of the Euphoria
00:54:498 (54498|3,54498|2) - This note is misplaced, it should be on the 1/4 note beat

01:29:498 (89498|2,89498|3,89586|1,89675|0,89675|3,89763|2,89851|0,89851|3,89851|1,89939|2,90028|1,90028|0,90116|2,90204|0,90204|1,90204|3) - This pattern should be changed for more hand balance

03:45:028 (225028|0,225381|1,225381|3) - These notes probably shouldn't be held out, the song is silent here

Really good pitch mapping, follows the music really well.
Topic Starter
Mentholzzz

lucari0lu wrote:

4k Rondo of the Euphoria
00:54:498 (54498|3,54498|2) - This note is misplaced, it should be on the 1/4 note beat Lsten to it closely, i think this one is already correct.

01:29:498 (89498|2,89498|3,89586|1,89675|0,89675|3,89763|2,89851|0,89851|3,89851|1,89939|2,90028|1,90028|0,90116|2,90204|0,90204|1,90204|3) - This pattern should be changed for more hand balance I think here is pretty balance tho

03:45:028 (225028|0,225381|1,225381|3) - These notes probably shouldn't be held out, the song is silent here ok changed

Really good pitch mapping, follows the music really well.
Arzenvald
nominate when

with the power of holy flying furball, ungraveyard dis!
Topic Starter
Mentholzzz

Arzenvald wrote:

nominate when

with the power of holy flying furball, ungraveyard dis!
as requested =w=
Arzenvald
Okay! here goes noting
i suppose bubble was reverted to 0 as the mapper got feedback from modders in the past and self-update it? :thinking:

[General]

folder : fixed via IRC, unused file removed
hitsound file : fixed via IRC, volume improvement and such
diff setup : talked via IRC, adjusting OD for 4K and 7K
AiMod : check aimod, overlapped note in 7K
metadata : seems confirmed, https://diverse.direct/n-m-s-t/nmstcd-001/ some sauce
irc
18:38 Arzenvald: im up with those 1/6 
18:38 *Arzenvald raises hand
18:38 Mentholzzz: lol
18:38 Arzenvald: but i love how it give a great climax, the impact
18:39 Arzenvald: 05:45:733 (345733|4,345733|6,345822|5,345910|4,345998|5,346086|6,346175|5,346263|4) - and thank you
18:39 Mentholzzz: owo
18:40 Arzenvald: 123212321 1 hand stairs are my weakness lol
18:40 Mentholzzz: lol
18:41 *Arzenvald is playing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1310538 Ice - Parodia Sonatina -Grande- [4K Rondo of the Euphoria]] <osu!mania> |4K|
18:41 Arzenvald: are you sure its only hp 8.7
18:41 Arzenvald: well od is high too
18:42 Mentholzzz: the 4k one doesnt have much noodle
18:42 Mentholzzz: so the od is high
18:42 Mentholzzz: hp is not sure
18:48 Arzenvald: i suggest to raise the od in 7K to 8.2, then either leave the hp 9 or reduce to hp 8.7-8.8
18:49 Arzenvald: hp - od 8.9-9 is good in 4K
18:49 Mentholzzz: o
18:49 Mentholzzz: ok
18:49 Arzenvald: although with that many LN in 7K, the pattern are somehow technical and doesn't have many gimmicky noodle
18:51 Mentholzzz: yeah those LN is just hard to read
18:51 Arzenvald: od 8.2 will just fine
18:51 Mentholzzz: oki
18:52 Arzenvald: what's with the previous background?
18:52 Mentholzzz: it was just a random deemo bg i place when i upload
18:53 Arzenvald: hoo, the current bg resolution is kinda odd, i'll try to find or improve it
18:53 Mentholzzz: o
18:53 Arzenvald: i also notice some volume difference between crash and crash closed
18:54 Arzenvald: crash.wav is quieter than crash closed.wav
18:54 Mentholzzz: hmm
18:54 Arzenvald: check with 75% sample 25% song
18:55 Arzenvald: *75% effect 25% music
18:55 Mentholzzz: well yeah
18:55 Arzenvald: what's the difference between snare.wav & snare2.wav?
18:55 Arzenvald: aren't they same file? one of them are unnecessary
18:56 Mentholzzz: o i think its the one with delay problem and i forget to delet it lul
18:57 Arzenvald: =-= both has same waveform beginning
18:57 Mentholzzz: wat
18:57 Mentholzzz: idk
18:57 Arzenvald: LOL
18:57 Mentholzzz: :thonk:
18:58 Arzenvald: im fixing the sample files right now
18:58 Mentholzzz: o
18:59 Arzenvald: remove snares 2
19:00 Mentholzzz: ok
19:00 Arzenvald: and check the hitsound sample whether the diff still using snares 2
19:01 Mentholzzz: both diff dont use snares 2
19:01 Mentholzzz: :thenk:
19:02 Mentholzzz: snares 2 just come out of nowhere
19:02 Arzenvald: hoo
19:02 Arzenvald: i suppose it came from audacity id
19:02 Arzenvald: k
19:03 Mentholzzz: so i should turn the crash closed volumn down a bit
19:03 Mentholzzz: should i do it in audacity or just change in osu
19:03 Mentholzzz: ?
19:04 Arzenvald: wait i already fixed it
19:04 Arzenvald: you just need to replace
19:04 Mentholzzz: o ok
19:09 Arzenvald: https://puu.sh/zI8g6/43b8a7c470.zip
19:11 Arzenvald: btw have you confirm the metadata?
19:51 Arzenvald: i posted something =3=
19:53 Arzenvald: :thinking:
19:53 Arzenvald: afk
19:53 Arzenvald: if you fixed all the general thing, i will check the hitsound and snapping, there's still some stuff left


chart :
this difficulty gotten so many mods, i checked both diff by testplaying them, looks great! better than the 1st qualification

1/ 2/ 3/ 4/
1/ 2/ 3/ 4/ 5/ 6/ 7

while moving the notes, re-check for any modified hitsound whether its moved or removed from its place

[4K // 4K Rondo of the Euphoria]
02:32:145 (152145|0,152233|1) - ctrl + g, make a descending stair to follow descending pitch
02:33:292 (153292|2,153381|3,153469|2) - suggestion : https://puu.sh/zI8Gb/b71c6f64ca.png
02:35:057 (155057|3,155145|1,155145|0,155322|2) - ctrl + h, same suggestion, make an ascending flow to follow ascending pitch
02:35:763 (155763|2,155851|1,155851|0,156028|2) - ctrl + h, same suggestion like above

02:09:292 (129292|1) - 03:17:057 (197057|2) - maybe, you can add 1 more note for the kick sound as i hear it?

as for the ending i was expecting some more of LN to break the 'repetitiveness' feeling since the rest of the map has same exact structure while it loops that many times, but that's only a personal thought.

[7K // 7K The Final Symphony]
02:13:969 (133969|0,134322|0,134675|0) - try https://puu.sh/zI8Xi/47f671d6e2.png ? the pitch weren't all ascending, so mixing the pattern can be good
04:09:822 (249822|2) - remove? i can't hear a thing, removing this will emphasize other instrument you are currently layering. check 4K too
04:50:410 (290410|3) - can't hear the violin, change to note?

snapping : not checked yet
hitsound diff : hasn't checked so far

will continue other things later
Topic Starter
Mentholzzz

Arzenvald wrote:

Okay! here goes noting
i suppose bubble was reverted to 0 as the mapper got feedback from modders in the past and self-update it? :thinking:

[General]

folder : fixed via IRC, unused file removed
hitsound file : fixed via IRC, volume improvement and such
diff setup : talked via IRC, adjusting OD for 4K and 7K
AiMod : check aimod, overlapped note in 7K
metadata : seems confirmed, https://diverse.direct/n-m-s-t/nmstcd-001/ some sauce
irc
18:38 Arzenvald: im up with those 1/6 
18:38 *Arzenvald raises hand
18:38 Mentholzzz: lol
18:38 Arzenvald: but i love how it give a great climax, the impact
18:39 Arzenvald: 05:45:733 (345733|4,345733|6,345822|5,345910|4,345998|5,346086|6,346175|5,346263|4) - and thank you
18:39 Mentholzzz: owo
18:40 Arzenvald: 123212321 1 hand stairs are my weakness lol
18:40 Mentholzzz: lol
18:41 *Arzenvald is playing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1310538 Ice - Parodia Sonatina -Grande- [4K Rondo of the Euphoria]] <osu!mania> |4K|
18:41 Arzenvald: are you sure its only hp 8.7
18:41 Arzenvald: well od is high too
18:42 Mentholzzz: the 4k one doesnt have much noodle
18:42 Mentholzzz: so the od is high
18:42 Mentholzzz: hp is not sure
18:48 Arzenvald: i suggest to raise the od in 7K to 8.2, then either leave the hp 9 or reduce to hp 8.7-8.8
18:49 Arzenvald: hp - od 8.9-9 is good in 4K
18:49 Mentholzzz: o
18:49 Mentholzzz: ok
18:49 Arzenvald: although with that many LN in 7K, the pattern are somehow technical and doesn't have many gimmicky noodle
18:51 Mentholzzz: yeah those LN is just hard to read
18:51 Arzenvald: od 8.2 will just fine
18:51 Mentholzzz: oki
18:52 Arzenvald: what's with the previous background?
18:52 Mentholzzz: it was just a random deemo bg i place when i upload
18:53 Arzenvald: hoo, the current bg resolution is kinda odd, i'll try to find or improve it
18:53 Mentholzzz: o
18:53 Arzenvald: i also notice some volume difference between crash and crash closed
18:54 Arzenvald: crash.wav is quieter than crash closed.wav
18:54 Mentholzzz: hmm
18:54 Arzenvald: check with 75% sample 25% song
18:55 Arzenvald: *75% effect 25% music
18:55 Mentholzzz: well yeah
18:55 Arzenvald: what's the difference between snare.wav & snare2.wav?
18:55 Arzenvald: aren't they same file? one of them are unnecessary
18:56 Mentholzzz: o i think its the one with delay problem and i forget to delet it lul
18:57 Arzenvald: =-= both has same waveform beginning
18:57 Mentholzzz: wat
18:57 Mentholzzz: idk
18:57 Arzenvald: LOL
18:57 Mentholzzz: :thonk:
18:58 Arzenvald: im fixing the sample files right now
18:58 Mentholzzz: o
18:59 Arzenvald: remove snares 2
19:00 Mentholzzz: ok
19:00 Arzenvald: and check the hitsound sample whether the diff still using snares 2
19:01 Mentholzzz: both diff dont use snares 2
19:01 Mentholzzz: :thenk:
19:02 Mentholzzz: snares 2 just come out of nowhere
19:02 Arzenvald: hoo
19:02 Arzenvald: i suppose it came from audacity id
19:02 Arzenvald: k
19:03 Mentholzzz: so i should turn the crash closed volumn down a bit
19:03 Mentholzzz: should i do it in audacity or just change in osu
19:03 Mentholzzz: ?
19:04 Arzenvald: wait i already fixed it
19:04 Arzenvald: you just need to replace
19:04 Mentholzzz: o ok
19:09 Arzenvald: https://puu.sh/zI8g6/43b8a7c470.zip
19:11 Arzenvald: btw have you confirm the metadata?
19:51 Arzenvald: i posted something =3=
19:53 Arzenvald: :thinking:
19:53 Arzenvald: afk
19:53 Arzenvald: if you fixed all the general thing, i will check the hitsound and snapping, there's still some stuff left


chart :
this difficulty gotten so many mods, i checked both diff by testplaying them, looks great! better than the 1st qualification

1/ 2/ 3/ 4/
1/ 2/ 3/ 4/ 5/ 6/ 7

while moving the notes, re-check for any modified hitsound whether its moved or removed from its place

[4K // 4K Rondo of the Euphoria]
02:32:145 (152145|0,152233|1) - ctrl + g, make a descending stair to follow descending pitch
02:33:292 (153292|2,153381|3,153469|2) - suggestion : https://puu.sh/zI8Gb/b71c6f64ca.png
02:35:057 (155057|3,155145|1,155145|0,155322|2) - ctrl + h, same suggestion, make an ascending flow to follow ascending pitch
02:35:763 (155763|2,155851|1,155851|0,156028|2) - ctrl + h, same suggestion like above

02:09:292 (129292|1) - 03:17:057 (197057|2) - maybe, you can add 1 more note for the kick sound as i hear it?

as for the ending i was expecting some more of LN to break the 'repetitiveness' feeling since the rest of the map has same exact structure while it loops that many times, but that's only a personal thought.

[7K // 7K The Final Symphony]
02:13:969 (133969|0,134322|0,134675|0) - try https://puu.sh/zI8Xi/47f671d6e2.png ? the pitch weren't all ascending, so mixing the pattern can be good
04:09:822 (249822|2) - remove? i can't hear a thing, removing this will emphasize other instrument you are currently layering. check 4K too
04:50:410 (290410|3) - can't hear the violin, change to note?
all applied owo
snapping : not checked yet
hitsound diff : hasn't checked so far

will continue other things later
Arzenvald
snapping and hitsound mod here! sorry it takes a little while (because checking onigiri too =w=)

Hitsound :
02:43:616 (163616|5) - add cymbal?

Chart :
03:13:086 (193086|2,193086|3,193263|2,193263|1) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10533342 the current pattern give me ocd

Snapping :
05:53:498 (353498|0,353542|1,353586|2,353631|1,353675|0) - i am certainly sure this piano snapping should be 1/6 or something

im using 7K, please fix these on 4K if the same problem occurs
Topic Starter
Mentholzzz

Arzenvald wrote:

snapping and hitsound mod here! sorry it takes a little while (because checking onigiri too =w=)

Hitsound :
02:43:616 (163616|5) - add cymbal? done

Chart :
03:13:086 (193086|2,193086|3,193263|2,193263|1) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10533342 the current pattern give me ocdk

Snapping :
05:53:498 (353498|0,353542|1,353586|2,353631|1,353675|0) - i am certainly sure this piano snapping should be 1/6 or something I'm pretty sure this is 1/8. Maybe not a legit proof but take a look at here, the Deemo chart. It uses 1/8 here.

im using 7K, please fix these on 4K if the same problem occurs
Arzenvald
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can you ask some confirmation with someone, regardless im legit sure the piano is 1/6, will bubble after you confirm this
Topic Starter
Mentholzzz
Asking qqqant, he also said its in 1/8.
IRC
2561-03-23 10:44 Mentholzzz: hello
2561-03-23 10:44 qqqant: hw
2561-03-23 10:44 qqqant: hewo
2561-03-23 10:45 Mentholzzz: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/612184 i need help
2561-03-23 10:45 qqqant: ACTION is editing Camellia - epimerization [doxorubicin (big SV boi)]
2561-03-23 10:45 qqqant: o
2561-03-23 10:45 Mentholzzz: no sv
2561-03-23 10:45 Mentholzzz: im curious about 05:53:498 -
2561-03-23 10:45 Mentholzzz: not sure if its 1/6 or 1/8 snap
2561-03-23 10:46 qqqant: 1/8
2561-03-23 10:46 Mentholzzz: can u confirm ?
2561-03-23 10:46 qqqant: yes
2561-03-23 10:47 qqqant: the piano notes go B-C-B-A#-B
2561-03-23 10:47 Mentholzzz: k <3
2561-03-23 10:48 qqqant: <3
Arzenvald
all issues are addressed and this set should be ready for qualify again!

nominated =3
nic01e
ranked when?
Topic Starter
Mentholzzz
O god, I forgot to reply to these aaaa

Abraxos wrote:

hi i erm

your 4k thing

04:03:381 (243381|2,243439|1,243498|2,243557|1,243616|2,243675|1,243733|2,243792|1) - etc.
im not sure about you but (170*6/4 = ) 255 bpm trills are really stupid to play - lachryma only had like 236 bpm trills and those are already bad enough
also i dont really think players like to break or lose acc 4 minutes into a song just because of one poorly patterned section I don't really see the problem of it (also i like lachryma trill, not the one with LN tho.) It's intended to be hard for this part.If you can't really trill it, you can even vibro them.

04:06:336 (246336|2,246381|1,246425|0,246469|2,246513|1,246557|0) - this is a pretty poorly done transition here, if you wanted to vary up the 1/8 coughcough "rolls" then you couldve done something like http://i.imgur.com/APgRriO.png this at least idfk ok changed

06:01:145 (361145|1,361263|1,361351|1) - layering crashes to triples here is your only mistake - forcing those triples into this portion of the music (where emphasis should be mainly on the piano) produces irregular transitions like the one i highlighted to you; i guess this one aint that bad as compared to the 1/6 trill lmao that one is a killer i change it now so it plays easier now, shud be fine i guess.

@bn did you overlook the 1/6 trill

Evening wrote:

whatever, since it's bubbled i'll throw some comments on the 7k

7K

00:56:498 (56498|4,56586|2,56763|2) - don't think these are even needed, they feel like they hinder the process of creating SVs more suited to the music, might as well remove them and create 1 clean SV-jump from 00:56:322 (56322|5,56851|5) - , makes your map look neater. Felt that those little "jerky" SVs here and there just ruins it remove

00:57:204 (57204|5,57292|1,57469|1) - same here ^
00:59:322 (59322|3) - ^ ^
01:00:028 (60028|1,60028|6) - ^ ^

01:05:675 (65675|0,65675|2,65763|3,65763|1,65851|4,65851|2,65939|5,65939|3,66028|4,66028|6,66116|5,66116|1) - could have used a pattern that goes with the PR and still stairs to the left (eg. 36 25 14 ... ), I much prefer a difficulty variation than that of a clearly incorrectly PR-ed pattern changed

01:06:204 (66204|0,66204|2,66204|6,66292|3,66381|4,66381|1,66469|6,66469|2,66557|5,66557|0,66557|3,66645|1,66733|6,66733|2,66822|5,66822|0,66910|4,66910|2,66910|1,66910|6) - This pattern doesn't really even increase in difficulty with respect to the previous pattern, which doesn't go in line with the rising intensity of the music here make it harder

01:06:910 (66910|6,66910|1,66910|2,66910|4,67086|4,67086|1,67086|3,67086|0,67263|2,67263|5,67263|0,67263|6) - could have used PR here, use the same chord pattern for the 1st and 3rd chord applied

01:18:028 (78028|5,78028|6,78028|4,78028|2,78028|3) - don't know why is it all the way to the right here, it's not even high pitched changed

01:26:322 (86322|3,86410|2,86498|6,86498|1,86586|5,86675|1,86675|4) - could have done a trill honestly, for PR fix

01:59:851 (119851|3,120116|2,120204|1,120204|3) - this swing beat is a really cool emphasis, shows that you are emphasizing the piano. But there's a lot of sections in the whole map where you blend in piano with the background hat/snare/synth instrumental, that it makes the whole chart so convoluted it's honestly hard to follow as a player change other part to emphasis the piano

02:04:792 (124792|4,124969|5) - think you missed a piano here, it's 1/6 though, think you can just simplify to 1/4, up to bn i guess i can't even hear anything there

02:07:175 (127175|1,127263|1) - this hammer in the music is done with a chord, a single note here honestly doesn't suffice ok
02:07:881 (127881|5,127969|5) - ^ ^

02:14:675 (134675|5,134675|0,134675|4,134675|1,134851|3,134851|2,134851|4,134851|6,135028|1,135028|4,135028|0,135028|5) - good that the 1st and 3rd chord is the same, but the PR is reversed why woops

02:26:675 (146675|5) - really up to preference, I feel that violins could be emphasized more if you did LNs on the ones that drag out such as this and 02:29:498 (149498|5) - and so on ... add LNs for violin

02:35:675 (155675|6,155763|5,155851|4) - at least PR or something idk fix

02:38:233 (158233|4,158322|4) - same comment about the chord thing fix

02:40:086 (160086|2,160175|1,160263|0,160263|3,160351|2,160439|4,160439|1,160528|3,160616|2,160616|5,160704|4,160792|3) - isn't this just stairing upwards, what about the change in direction of the pitch fix

02:42:998 (162998|0,162998|3,163086|4,163086|1,163175|5,163175|2) - this could stair left for PR done
wow so much comments about PR i should stop,
I really felt that PR is just one of the most important things in a map especially when it comes to instruments like piano and violin where its pitch should be one of the main components that is displayed in the map ok, i think it is mostly okay for now.

02:46:969 (166969|0,167057|1,167145|2) - what why is there suddenly LN for violin what add violin LN b4 so this shud be fine now.

02:49:263 (169263|3,169263|0,169263|1) - doesn't really scream "this is the end of the pattern" if you do a 3-note chord here, go for a 5 or something ok

02:49:616 (169616|5,170322|2) - god these are so unneeded, they create this weird stutter and its not even prominent in the music, just ignore that and do a SV jump from 02:49:263 (169263|3,169792|4) - remove

02:57:733 (177733|6,178439|6) - everything is so random here, why not follow the PR where it is basically a 2 3 2 1 2 3 2 1 2 in terms of pitch change it and repattern to make it play easier.

03:12:998 (192998|2) - why is this here, there's no piano there's piano there i can hear.

03:14:939 (194939|0,195028|0) - same thing as before ok

03:22:439 (202439|5,202439|0,202439|4,202439|1,202616|3,202616|2,202616|4,202616|6,202792|1,202792|4,202792|0,202792|5) - wow dejavu it's the same exact chord pattern and the same suggestion that i have previously :^)

03:23:145 (203145|1) - did you just take the previous section and reverse the columns, PR is most likely going to go wrong somewhere :thonk:

yea i'll stop here
Rivals_7
discussed last minute confirmation via irc
celerih
ayy
MadBricktree
finally
Kim_GodSSI
hey i found something

04:16:175 (256175|5) - Is it ghost note?
just my think, when that note place that sound, 04:10:528 - this part have to place too :3
AncuL
just in case the map gets DQ'd again. this suggestion is only necessary if that happens since Kim_GodSSI's point is totally valid

7K
04:18:292 - 04:18:645 - these should have 2 notes. it's quite powerful
Topic Starter
Mentholzzz

Kim_GodSSI wrote:

hey i found something

04:16:175 (256175|5) - Is it ghost note?
just my think, when that note place that sound, 04:10:528 - this part have to place too :3
The one at 04:16:175 - is representing the left hand piano. (I'm pretty sure there's one there but not at 04:10:528 -

AncuL wrote:

just in case the map gets DQ'd again. this suggestion is only necessary if that happens since Kim_GodSSI's point is totally valid

7K
04:18:292 - 04:18:645 - these should have 2 notes. it's quite powerful The double is for kick sound and there are none there.
Lirai
04:50:322 - at 7K diff, is this sample clap intended to be here? this makes sound of clap very loud

and also,

06:04:086 (364086|3,364439|3,364792|3) - are they should be 2 kind of crash sound? this makes crash sounds weird
Topic Starter
Mentholzzz

DE-CADE wrote:

04:50:322 - at 7K diff, is this sample clap intended to be here? this makes sound of clap very loud It is intended to be there. I don't think it's too loud.

and also,

06:04:086 (364086|3,364439|3,364792|3) - are they should be 2 kind of crash sound? this makes crash sounds weird 2 kind of crash here is to emphasize here. The crash here is a bit heavier than anywhere before.
Feerum
Greetings!
I have looked into the Map and i think i found a wrong snapped note. I am pretty sure of it.

[Both Difficulties]
So it's about 05:47:381 (347381|6,347439|4) - .
My problem with this is that we have only four 1/6 piano hits here, therefore 05:47:381 (347381|6) - is wrong and 05:47:439 (347439|4) - this one should be moved to the 1/4 line below. The Piano changes to 1/4 from 05:47:410 - .

05:53:498 - This section here sounds actually 1/6 for me, while it's not 100% clear for me. But 1/8 sounds really too fast for me.

--

So, while i am not really sure of the 2nd point, i am pretty convinced of the first one. Let me know your thoughts
Protastic101
What fee said. Might wanna give it another once over, especially towards the end when the snaps get painful.
Topic Starter
Mentholzzz

Feerum wrote:

Greetings!
I have looked into the Map and i think i found a wrong snapped note. I am pretty sure of it.

[Both Difficulties]
So it's about 05:47:381 (347381|6,347439|4) - .
My problem with this is that we have only four 1/6 piano hits here, therefore 05:47:381 (347381|6) - is wrong and 05:47:439 (347439|4) - this one should be moved to the 1/4 line below. The Piano changes to 1/4 from 05:47:410 - . aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa ok

05:53:498 - This section here sounds actually 1/6 for me, while it's not 100% clear for me. But 1/8 sounds really too fast for me. I'm pretty sure this section is 1/8. The piano notes go B-C-B-A#-B there.

--

So, while i am not really sure of the 2nd point, i am pretty convinced of the first one. Let me know your thoughts
Arzenvald
why graveyard O.o
Topic Starter
Mentholzzz

Arzenvald wrote:

why graveyard O.o
idk either. my slots is also fulled now so i can't updated this ;w;
FAMoss
wut
Topic Starter
Mentholzzz
u-updated!!
Arzenvald
give me few days, will re-check the DQ post and make sure everything resolved
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