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Litharrale

705 posts

Joined August 2013

Litharrale 2017-10-02T07:49:20+00:00

The SB not being centered triggers me

Hokichi

825 posts

Joined June 2015

Hokichi 2017-10-05T15:03:21+00:00

Litharrale wrote:

The SB not being centered triggers me

Yeah, the centre of SB is 320:240, while the gameplay screen is 320:265
Not my fault :^)

Nowaie

1,021 posts

Joined December 2014

Nowaie 2017-10-05T20:35:38+00:00

M4M

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General

01:26:401 - The 100%/85%/whatever% hs volume for that feels just too much as the song just basically disappears there. Maybe use something like 60% as that would fit much better to the level of the song while not making the other objects around it significantly stronger

Easy

I think the new comboing is a bit weird since overall the song can be divided into "sections" that last for 2 measures instead of 4 so I think it would be better to fit them according to the song

00:31:201 (5,6) - Maybe the 5 could be curved like the 6? It would fit the way you use flow visually

01:25:029 - You might want to change the volume here to 85% to be consistent with other difficulties

Normal

00:52:115 - 01:03:086 - 01:05:829 - Should be clickables considering that all the other similar sounds on the downbeats are mapped as clickables

01:12:686 (2,3,4) - This kind of placement does not look good as you use the "normal visual flow" basically throughout the map

Armible

Considering you use 8/1 comboes on the first section you should reconsider it here 00:40:458 (1,2,1,2,3) - as there it just does not make sense. Basically the first combo is 5/1 and the second one is 4/1. Imo the most optimal way would be https://puu.sh/xQLhP/85c8feac51.png as it would hold on to the 2/1 NCing while accurately showing the change in vocals

00:53:315 (3,4) - The spacing should be much less between these two considering the synths on the 4 and 5 are much lower pitched than the spacing would suggest. Overall you two favor 01:04:286 (3,4) - this kind of spacing anyway so i can't find the 2.4x spacing fitting at all

01:52:458 (1,1,1) - 01:49:715 (1,1,1,1) - Why are some of these 1/2 reverse sliders while some are 1/1 sliders? I personally find the 1/2 reverse sliders rhythmically not really working as there is nothing really rhythmically nor vocally that would really directly justify that kind of a slider usage so i'd suggest using either only 1/1 sliders and maybe sets of two 1/2 sliders to cover stuff like this 01:53:829 (1,2) -

Hobbes

00:51:258 (5,6,7) - 00:54:001 (5,6,7) - ect. Maybe you could differentiate the 1/2 and 1/1 spacing atleast a bit (or have some other kind of a indication of the difference) like you have done prior 00:45:772 (5,6,7) - 00:48:515 (5,6,7) - as players might misread them as 1/2s when you have got them used to that the 1/2s and 1/1s have slightly different spacing

01:32:401 (3,4) - Tbh why is this only like ~4* stars with stuff like this xD

02:00:858 (2) - I feel like it's a bit odd when the snare drum is under the slidertail when it seems like you are emphasizing some of the snares when you are emphasizing them when there aren't any kind of vocals in that section 01:53:143 (4,5) - 02:04:115 (4,5) - or most notably here 02:09:258 (3,4) -

Yami

Yes the rhythm choice in the first section does make theoretically sense but while playing it feels really off as some of the synths are next to unaudible with the hitsounds 00:32:057 (5) - and the significantly stronger sounds 00:31:543 - do not get any kind of representation through the mapping which is quite bad for the general rhythm as it basically discounts a lot of the sounds

00:45:086 (3,4) - As some of the following 1/4 gap sliders have basically similar looking spacing that these two sliders have in a similar way of patterning I think it would be better to make a new pattern out of these two or just increase the spacing closer to 2-2.2 as that is what you use most of the time for 1/2 spacing

00:54:858 (1,2,3) - 00:56:915 (6,7) - This kind of overlapping patterning. Is it cool? yeah. Is it different? yeah. But why is it different like that. The part it's mapped on is basically the same as 00:43:886 - and i don't see any kind of a overlapping there so it's not really a concept for a specific part of a song. I just don't get it why is it even there to begin with

02:00:686 - Why does the concept of 1/1 slider | grouped hitcircles | 1/2 slider just stops? There is next to no difference at all between the sections so shouldn't they be similar?

Broken

01:25:715 (1,2,1,2,1) - I feel like this would have much more fitting pattern if it was a sorta build up patterning as the increase is really rough from the tight stream into the huge spacing but the song isn't necessarily like that. I'd recommend something like this https://puu.sh/xQRtm/3040fbe5be.png to really give a nicer feeling to the increase in movement overall throughout that pattern

01:30:173 (1) - Something cool would be to CTRL G this kind of sliders. It would give some kind of a tension to the hold, it would emphasize the beat on the next slider and on top of those points the back and forth movement of the sliders 01:29:830 (3,1) - would fit with the din-dun sound (tone change in the synthesizer)

01:49:715 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - 01:52:458 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - I understand that the changes in the patterning are consistent and ect but the song doesn't really change between the two measure periods enough that this kind of changes would really be justified imo so I think it'd be better if you chose a single way to do that kind of a rhythm ^^;

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Good shit, best of luck to ya all

kanor

925 posts

Joined August 2013

kanor 2017-10-24T04:58:20+00:00

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[Easy]
02:11:658 - 5% maybe too qiuet to hear, deeply recommend to increase to 10%
[Normal]
01:20:915 (1) - Not sure if here need an NC cuz you NCed every 8 whitle lines but here is 4
[Hard]
00:46:629 (1,2) - blanekt
[Hobbes]
01:41:315 (2,1) - blanket
[Yamicchi]
00:55:543 (2,4) - not sure if it would be a necessary overlap imo

Real cool set and storyboard, tough to write a skirt mod><
GL~

Nokris

258 posts

Joined February 2015

Nokris 2017-10-30T05:31:39+00:00

Broken
00:43:029 - useless greenline?
Hobbes2's Light Insane
01:19:201 (5,6) - will be better if your use slider here because that emphase vocal perfectly like previous sliders.
02:06:686 (2,3) - that's a bit wierd to follow vocal here. I think 02:03:943 (2,3,4) - something like this would feels better.
ArMible's Hard
01:39:429 (4,5) - you broke your flow here. The main flow in this part very smooth. Imo would be better if you replace 01:39:772 (5) - this circle to the left side from (4) slider.

omg, sorry for a delay and really small mod, i can't find a way to improve something in your mapset, very well done. (you can ask me for mod any time, im always free)

Yamicchi

1,175 posts

Joined May 2015

Yamicchi 2017-10-31T03:38:30+00:00

DTM9 Nowa wrote:
M4M

Yami

Yes the rhythm choice in the first section does make theoretically sense but while playing it feels really off as some of the synths are next to unaudible with the hitsounds 00:32:057 (5) - and the significantly stronger sounds 00:31:543 - do not get any kind of representation through the mapping which is quite bad for the general rhythm as it basically discounts a lot of the sounds The drums and the rhythm at the back is not really connected to each other,
so i have to follow one, which is the rhythm, that's why hitsound might seems off but tbh it plays fine as I tried dozen times already.

00:45:086 (3,4) - As some of the following 1/4 gap sliders have basically similar looking spacing that these two sliders have in a similar way of patterning I think it would be better to make a new pattern out of these two or just increase the spacing closer to 2-2.2 as that is what you use most of the time for 1/2 spacing increased a bit

00:54:858 (1,2,3) - 00:56:915 (6,7) - This kind of overlapping patterning. Is it cool? yeah. Is it different? yeah. But why is it different like that. The part it's mapped on is basically the same as 00:43:886 - and i don't see any kind of a overlapping there so it's not really a concept for a specific part of a song. I just don't get it why is it even there to begin with changed

02:00:686 - Why does the concept of 1/1 slider | grouped hitcircles | 1/2 slider just stops? There is next to no difference at all between the sections so shouldn't they be similar? would be boring to have just a bunch of grouped circles for 2 sections, so I increased the spacing, also I want it to be a bit raising in intensity so the ending would be better imo

@kano fixed pattern from Nowa's mod

Thanks for the mod \o/

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Kawashiro

1,522 posts

Joined April 2012

Kawashiro 2017-11-02T19:22:40+00:00

from ur m4m q

[Easy]

I think 16 beat NC and HP 3 makes too hard to recover hp bar. Except this issue, Perfect map

[Normal]

00:51:429 (5) - I think you should put click at 00:52:115 - here for better beat.
01:02:401 (5) - ^
01:05:143 (4) - ^ especially 01:05:829 - song changes at here.
01:49:029 (7) - ^, 01:49:372 - almost same as 01:38:401 (7) - here imo

[Hard]

02:06:172 (1,2,3,4) - why u break the mood? it feels too empty and there is no reason to do this. i think you should fill more beats by using slider or more circles
01:07:030 (3) - In my opinion, put clickable things at 01:07:201 - here seems better. it follow vocals well and also fit at music
01:24:686 (9,1) - I think you can make space more larger than 01:20:572 (4,5) - here? anyway this should be more far
01:28:972 (6,1) - I recommend to swap nc all of these patterns, because these two slider has same sound so combo will divide 01:27:772 (1,2,3,4,5) - this and 01:28:972 (1,2,3,4,5) - this.

[Light Insane]

00:28:972 (2) - why you put whistle????
perfect to me

[Insane]

01:32:915 (4) - , 01:43:886 (4) - why don't you use 1/2 slider like 01:38:401 (6) - here? it seems not a good idea to make cursor stop
01:48:858 (1,2) - I think you should put jumps like 01:46:972 (1,2,1,2,1,1,2) - others. just move them to 492 210
01:49:715 (1) - ~ 02:00:343 (5) - You repeated same beats 8 times. It seems boring. how about give it a change at 01:57:943 (1) - here? this point seems good to try other beats.

[Broken]

02:09:601 (2,3,4) - this flow seems too harsh. how about move 4 to 477 285???
perfect to me

GL

Plaudible

1,028 posts

Joined September 2015

Topic Starter

Plaudible 2017-11-04T04:53:26+00:00

DTM9 Nowa wrote:
M4M

[]

General

01:26:401 - The 100%/85%/whatever% hs volume for that feels just too much as the song just basically disappears there. Maybe use something like 60% as that would fit much better to the level of the song while not making the other objects around it significantly stronger i kinda like the explosive end for this section of the song, it's a very climactic point and deserves the loud sound. if you take away the circles/hs the clap there is pretty significant in its own right, anyways.

Easy

I think the new comboing is a bit weird since overall the song can be divided into "sections" that last for 2 measures instead of 4 so I think it would be better to fit them according to the song doubled down on it

00:31:201 (5,6) - Maybe the 5 could be curved like the 6? It would fit the way you use flow visually kk

01:25:029 - You might want to change the volume here to 85% to be consistent with other difficulties oops

Normal

00:52:115 - 01:03:086 - 01:05:829 - Should be clickables considering that all the other similar sounds on the downbeats are mapped as clickables disagree, the point was to make emphasis a little different between the first section with louder melodies and here where it ends on lower notes instead.

01:12:686 (2,3,4) - This kind of placement does not look good as you use the "normal visual flow" basically throughout the map fixed

Armible

Considering you use 8/1 comboes on the first section you should reconsider it here 00:40:458 (1,2,1,2,3) - as there it just does not make sense. Basically the first combo is 5/1 and the second one is 4/1. Imo the most optimal way would be https://puu.sh/xQLhP/85c8feac51.png as it would hold on to the 2/1 NCing while accurately showing the change in vocals removed nc

00:53:315 (3,4) - The spacing should be much less between these two considering the synths on the 4 and 5 are much lower pitched than the spacing would suggest. Overall you two favor 01:04:286 (3,4) - this kind of spacing anyway so i can't find the 2.4x spacing fitting at all changed

01:52:458 (1,1,1) - 01:49:715 (1,1,1,1) - Why are some of these 1/2 reverse sliders while some are 1/1 sliders? I personally find the 1/2 reverse sliders rhythmically not really working as there is nothing really rhythmically nor vocally that would really directly justify that kind of a slider usage so i'd suggest using either only 1/1 sliders and maybe sets of two 1/2 sliders to cover stuff like this 01:53:829 (1,2) - little rhythm diversity that works imo since the 1/2 is still spamming, and it falls on stronger repetitions of the vocals

Broken

01:25:715 (1,2,1,2,1) - I feel like this would have much more fitting pattern if it was a sorta build up patterning as the increase is really rough from the tight stream into the huge spacing but the song isn't necessarily like that. I'd recommend something like this https://puu.sh/xQRtm/3040fbe5be.png to really give a nicer feeling to the increase in movement overall throughout that pattern changed

01:30:173 (1) - Something cool would be to CTRL G this kind of sliders. It would give some kind of a tension to the hold, it would emphasize the beat on the next slider and on top of those points the back and forth movement of the sliders 01:29:830 (3,1) - would fit with the din-dun sound (tone change in the synthesizer) I really like this, done

01:49:715 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - 01:52:458 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - I understand that the changes in the patterning are consistent and ect but the song doesn't really change between the two measure periods enough that this kind of changes would really be justified imo so I think it'd be better if you chose a single way to do that kind of a rhythm ^^; i dont think the change in gameplay is terribly different to be an issue, and it's nice to emphasize stronger vocals with the 1/4 sliders instead

[]

Good shit, best of luck to ya all

tyy <3

kanor wrote:
[Genal]
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go hoki go
[Easy]
02:11:658 - 5% maybe too qiuet to hear, deeply recommend to increase to 10% dw, not an issue. it's the last spinner in the song and it doesn't really need feedback for sound imo
[Normal]
01:20:915 (1) - Not sure if here need an NC cuz you NCed every 8 whitle lines but here is 4 fixed
[Hard]
00:46:629 (1,2) - blanekt fixed

Real cool set and storyboard, tough to write a skirt mod>< tyy
GL~

Reya wrote:
Broken
00:43:029 - useless greenline?
Hobbes2's Light Insane
01:19:201 (5,6) - will be better if your use slider here because that emphase vocal perfectly like previous sliders.
02:06:686 (2,3) - that's a bit wierd to follow vocal here. I think 02:03:943 (2,3,4) - something like this would feels better.
ArMible's Hard
01:39:429 (4,5) - you broke your flow here. The main flow in this part very smooth. Imo would be better if you replace 01:39:772 (5) - this circle to the left side from (4) slider. it was there i swear

omg, sorry for a delay and really small mod, i can't find a way to improve something in your mapset, very well done. (you can ask me for mod any time, im always free) tyy!!

Kawashiro wrote:
from ur m4m q

[Easy]
I think 16 beat NC and HP 3 makes too hard to recover hp bar. Except this issue, Perfect map lowered
[Normal]
00:51:429 (5) - I think you should put click at 00:52:115 - here for better beat.
01:02:401 (5) - ^
01:05:143 (4) - ^ especially 01:05:829 - song changes at here.
01:49:029 (7) - ^, 01:49:372 - almost same as 01:38:401 (7) - here imo dtm9 nowa mentioned this but i really think it's fine, the point is to make a distinguishable difference in emphasis between each repetition in this section, since one has stronger 1/1 synths at the end whilst some don't. it builds contrast to make some clickable and some not imo
[Hard]
02:06:172 (1,2,3,4) - why u break the mood? it feels too empty and there is no reason to do this. i think you should fill more beats by using slider or more circles remapped a bit
01:07:030 (3) - In my opinion, put clickable things at 01:07:201 - here seems better. it follow vocals well and also fit at music based on guitar
01:24:686 (9,1) - I think you can make space more larger than 01:20:572 (4,5) - here? anyway this should be more far spaced a bit though not much
01:28:972 (6,1) - I recommend to swap nc all of these patterns, because these two slider has same sound so combo will divide 01:27:772 (1,2,3,4,5) - this and 01:28:972 (1,2,3,4,5) - this. i like the idea but it kills consistency in other sections that use whiteline nc's
[Broken]
02:09:601 (2,3,4) - this flow seems too harsh. how about move 4 to 477 285??? think it's fine, not terribly harsh and slider shape compensates
perfect to me
GL thxxx!!

updated yami's diff, waiting for hoki+hobbes

Hokichi

825 posts

Joined June 2015

Hokichi 2017-11-05T03:10:21+00:00

kanor wrote:
[Genal]
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Real cool set and storyboard, tough to write a skirt mod><
GL~

Sorry for late reply uwu
Deleted the extra files

Izzywing

osu! Alumni

2,248 posts

Joined March 2016

Izzywing 2017-11-07T00:27:26+00:00

00:51:258 (5,6,7) - 00:54:001 (5,6,7) - ect. Maybe you could differentiate the 1/2 and 1/1 spacing atleast a bit (or have some other kind of a indication of the difference) like you have done prior 00:45:772 (5,6,7) - 00:48:515 (5,6,7) - as players might misread them as 1/2s when you have got them used to that the 1/2s and 1/1s have slightly different spacing its true that players MIGHt misread this but the rhythm is so obvious at this point that I think they should be fine

01:32:401 (3,4) - Tbh why is this only like ~4* stars with stuff like this xD lol

02:00:858 (2) - I feel like it's a bit odd when the snare drum is under the slidertail when it seems like you are emphasizing some of the snares when you are emphasizing them when there aren't any kind of vocals in that section 01:53:143 (4,5) - 02:04:115 (4,5) - or most notably here 02:09:258 (3,4) - you have a point, but im following the electronic sound there since theres not much really else that would make sense to follow outside of just going vanilla on the drums

@kanor fixed the blanket

@kawa cause the sound is there, also thank you very much!

https://pastebin.com/enYnvRVw

sheela

2,651 posts

Joined October 2011

sheela 2017-11-10T01:39:39+00:00

[Broken]

01:07:030 (3,4,5,6) - this part with big spacing is not fitting imo since it's inconsistent with the following parts
01:20:916 (1,2) - sudden big spacing breaks the spacing graduation in this section, it seems too early for this kind of spacing; ctrl + g slider (2) would be a good alternative
01:23:658 - i was thinking of 65% as volume here, since 50% -> 75% sounds like a sudden big gap, but idk i dont have a good sense with volume
01:53:315 (5) - 02:04:286 (4) - missing normal addition whistle?
02:06:172 (1) - 02:07:543 (1) - this happens twice, so it may be intended, but the slidertail noise a bit bothering imo. i like 02:06:858 (3,3) - better

[Yamicchi's Insane]

01:50:229 (2,3,4) - 01:51:601 (2,3,4) - 01:52:972 (2,3,4) - and etc. - the first combo becomes a surprise since the players would expect a 1/4 triplet. my suggestion is to add a new combo to every first circle to this type of triplet so that there's combo consistency, or add just one new combo on 01:50:229 (2) - so that there wouldn't be new combo spam

[Hobbes2's Light Insane]

01:49:372 (1) - with all the overlapping happening during 01:46:972 (1,2,1,2,1,1,2,1,2) -, it may be harder to perceive the different rhythm 01:49:200 (2,1) -, so there's confusion at that part. i would probably move 01:49:372 (1) - more to the left like x:22 to get it out of the sliders.
02:01:372 (4) - missing normal addition whistle?
02:08:572 (4) - unless intended, make the slidertail have the soft sampleset hitnormal?

ok u can ask for recheck

Izzywing

osu! Alumni

2,248 posts

Joined March 2016

Izzywing 2017-11-10T02:41:50+00:00

01:49:372 (1) - with all the overlapping happening during 01:46:972 (1,2,1,2,1,1,2,1,2) -, it may be harder to perceive the different rhythm 01:49:200 (2,1) -, so there's confusion at that part. i would probably move 01:49:372 (1) - more to the left like x:22 to get it out of the sliders. While I agree this is 'hard' to read, I don't really think that's a bad thing and I think it's appropriate for the difficulty. I remember playing patterns like this at that level and thinking they were fun. if you think it's an issue still I am fine with using your fix, but I would prefer to keep it if possible.
02:01:372 (4) - missing normal addition whistle?
02:08:572 (4) - unless intended, make the slidertail have the soft sampleset hitnormal?

yo plaud can you fix the hitsounding things, theyre pretty small :p

Yamicchi

1,175 posts

Joined May 2015

Yamicchi 2017-11-10T11:12:07+00:00

Kay @sheela fixed :3

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Plaudible

1,028 posts

Joined September 2015

Topic Starter

Plaudible 2017-11-10T22:27:47+00:00

fixed everything, did a little remapping in the top diff for some improvements i felt were necessary. the soft hitsound sampleset at the end serves to silence stream spam, but it's not as necessary now since i changed the rhythm so i tweaked it a bit for my diff and hobbes. updated all diffs and changed volume to be more progressive

all updated!

sheela

2,651 posts

Joined October 2011

sheela 2017-11-13T22:40:07+00:00

[Yamicchi's Insane]

01:38:743 (1) - 01:41:486 (1) - i'd prefer if you leave the 3/4 sliders for parts like 01:35:658 (1) -. the synth/wubwub sound is ending later on 01:38:743 - rather like 01:35:658 - that ends right at the downbeat 01:36:001 -. so 3/4 slider would fit better on 1/1 short synth than 3/2 long synth.

[Hobbes2's Light Insane]

00:28:972 (2) - soft sampleset whistle on head seems to be random since it's the only hitsound to be placed in the intro section

call me back

Plaudible

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Joined September 2015

Topic Starter

Plaudible 2017-11-13T22:46:17+00:00

removed for hobbes, waitin for yam yam

Izzywing

osu! Alumni

2,248 posts

Joined March 2016

Izzywing 2017-11-13T22:57:53+00:00

yea fix that plaud lol, not sure why my dfif has all these random hitsound mistakes z-z

edit - oh you already posted

Yamicchi

1,175 posts

Joined May 2015

Yamicchi 2017-11-14T03:59:32+00:00

Dont really get what you mean but I saw some inconsistency of it so changed those you mentioned to 1/2 sliders

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sheela

2,651 posts

Joined October 2011

sheela 2017-11-15T00:17:49+00:00

it's all gooood

ZekeyHache

3,316 posts

Joined October 2009

ZekeyHache 2017-11-15T20:24:28+00:00

Et sheela terre est sombre
Et sheela pluie te noie

[Easy]

01:15:772 (2) - remove this circle so 01:16:115 (3) - this slider feels more important (creating a stronger emphasis on the vocals)

[Normal]
01:06:515 - 01:16:801 - I think you should focus on following the vocals with a simpler rhythm at least just in this section. The song would be represented better in this section with a more relaxed gameplay and rhythm, and also would create more contrast with the stronger and denser parts after it. Here is my suggestion:

01:07:201 - make it a 1/1 slider
01:10:458 (3) - remove this circle
01:13:201 (3) - this one too
01:16:115 (3) - make it a 1/1 slider and delete 01:16:629 (4) - this circle

[Hobbes2's Light Insane]

02:09:943 (1) - remove nc

[ArMible's Hard]
Perhaps rename to A r M ible to represent A r M i N's name in a more accurate way? Pretty much what we changed here, so it would be nice to keep it consistent too~

00:46:629 (1,2) - fix blanket plsss

[Yamicchi's Insane]

01:06:858 (2) - previous object distance is 0.9, make it 1.05 so it's consitent with the other objects (01:07:201 (3,4,5) - )
01:14:058 (1,2) - this blanket can be improved a bit more

call me back~

Plaudible

1,028 posts

Joined September 2015

Topic Starter

Plaudible 2017-11-17T03:47:31+00:00

ezek wrote:
Et sheela terre est sombre
Et sheela pluie te noie

[Easy]
01:15:772 (2) - remove this circle so 01:16:115 (3) - this slider feels more important (creating a stronger emphasis on the vocals) ok
[Normal]
01:06:515 - 01:16:801 - I think you should focus on following the vocals with a simpler rhythm at least just in this section. The song would be represented better in this section with a more relaxed gameplay and rhythm, and also would create more contrast with the stronger and denser parts after it. Here is my suggestion: i like this, did all
01:07:201 - make it a 1/1 slider
01:10:458 (3) - remove this circle
01:13:201 (3) - this one too
01:16:115 (3) - make it a 1/1 slider and delete 01:16:629 (4) - this circle
[Hobbes2's Light Insane]
02:09:943 (1) - remove nc
[ArMible's Hard]
Perhaps rename to A r M ible to represent A r M i N's name in a more accurate way? Pretty much what we changed here, so it would be nice to keep it consistent too~
00:46:629 (1,2) - fix blanket plsss
[Yamicchi's Insane]
01:06:858 (2) - previous object distance is 0.9, make it 1.05 so it's consitent with the other objects (01:07:201 (3,4,5) - )
01:14:058 (1,2) - this blanket can be improved a bit more
call me back~

fixed all for gders, they asked me to since it was minor

ZekeyHache

3,316 posts

Joined October 2009

ZekeyHache 2017-11-17T17:43:22+00:00

q

Yamicchi

1,175 posts

Joined May 2015

Yamicchi 2017-11-18T02:04:50+00:00

yas!

Monstrata

Elite Mapper: Aspirant

4,642 posts

Joined May 2013

Monstrata 2017-11-18T03:09:39+00:00

Cartoon? Pretty sure the artist is wrong. Please change it to "Anime" thanks.

Kyouren

5,583 posts

Joined October 2012

Kyouren 2017-11-18T05:02:43+00:00

Congratulations! :3

Hula

581 posts

Joined January 2013

Hula 2017-11-30T18:57:28+00:00

Congrats and all but the repetitive patterns with the overlapping are super uncomfortable to play 01:31:030 (2,3,4,1,2) - these just don't fit the song and got boring to play.

Also, 02:08:572 (4,5,1,2) - this spacing is not good, an anti jump here is not what we're led to expect and doesn't belong, especially since you add strong hitsounds to it, there should an increase in spacing if anything.

Plaudible

1,028 posts

Joined September 2015

Topic Starter

Plaudible 2017-12-01T00:41:25+00:00

thx fixed all

AlphaOG

5 posts

Joined November 2017

AlphaOG 2018-04-28T12:58:47+00:00

Hey mate, mind if I have the full photo of the background, it would make a cool wallpaper for my PC.

Plaudible