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Cartoon - Why We Lose (ft. Coleman Trapp)

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Izzywing
osu! Alumni
2,248 posts
Joined March 2016
Izzywing
00:51:258 (5,6,7) - 00:54:001 (5,6,7) - ect. Maybe you could differentiate the 1/2 and 1/1 spacing atleast a bit (or have some other kind of a indication of the difference) like you have done prior 00:45:772 (5,6,7) - 00:48:515 (5,6,7) - as players might misread them as 1/2s when you have got them used to that the 1/2s and 1/1s have slightly different spacing its true that players MIGHt misread this but the rhythm is so obvious at this point that I think they should be fine

01:32:401 (3,4) - Tbh why is this only like ~4* stars with stuff like this xD lol

02:00:858 (2) - I feel like it's a bit odd when the snare drum is under the slidertail when it seems like you are emphasizing some of the snares when you are emphasizing them when there aren't any kind of vocals in that section 01:53:143 (4,5) - 02:04:115 (4,5) - or most notably here 02:09:258 (3,4) - you have a point, but im following the electronic sound there since theres not much really else that would make sense to follow outside of just going vanilla on the drums
@kanor fixed the blanket

@kawa cause the sound is there, also thank you very much!

https://pastebin.com/enYnvRVw
sheela
2,651 posts
Joined October 2011
sheela
[Broken]
  1. 01:07:030 (3,4,5,6) - this part with big spacing is not fitting imo since it's inconsistent with the following parts
  2. 01:20:916 (1,2) - sudden big spacing breaks the spacing graduation in this section, it seems too early for this kind of spacing; ctrl + g slider (2) would be a good alternative
  3. 01:23:658 - i was thinking of 65% as volume here, since 50% -> 75% sounds like a sudden big gap, but idk i dont have a good sense with volume
  4. 01:53:315 (5) - 02:04:286 (4) - missing normal addition whistle?
  5. 02:06:172 (1) - 02:07:543 (1) - this happens twice, so it may be intended, but the slidertail noise a bit bothering imo. i like 02:06:858 (3,3) - better
[Yamicchi's Insane]
  1. 01:50:229 (2,3,4) - 01:51:601 (2,3,4) - 01:52:972 (2,3,4) - and etc. - the first combo becomes a surprise since the players would expect a 1/4 triplet. my suggestion is to add a new combo to every first circle to this type of triplet so that there's combo consistency, or add just one new combo on 01:50:229 (2) - so that there wouldn't be new combo spam
[Hobbes2's Light Insane]
  1. 01:49:372 (1) - with all the overlapping happening during 01:46:972 (1,2,1,2,1,1,2,1,2) -, it may be harder to perceive the different rhythm 01:49:200 (2,1) -, so there's confusion at that part. i would probably move 01:49:372 (1) - more to the left like x:22 to get it out of the sliders.
  2. 02:01:372 (4) - missing normal addition whistle?
  3. 02:08:572 (4) - unless intended, make the slidertail have the soft sampleset hitnormal?
ok u can ask for recheck
Izzywing
osu! Alumni
2,248 posts
Joined March 2016
Izzywing
01:49:372 (1) - with all the overlapping happening during 01:46:972 (1,2,1,2,1,1,2,1,2) -, it may be harder to perceive the different rhythm 01:49:200 (2,1) -, so there's confusion at that part. i would probably move 01:49:372 (1) - more to the left like x:22 to get it out of the sliders. While I agree this is 'hard' to read, I don't really think that's a bad thing and I think it's appropriate for the difficulty. I remember playing patterns like this at that level and thinking they were fun. if you think it's an issue still I am fine with using your fix, but I would prefer to keep it if possible.
02:01:372 (4) - missing normal addition whistle?
02:08:572 (4) - unless intended, make the slidertail have the soft sampleset hitnormal?
yo plaud can you fix the hitsounding things, theyre pretty small :p
Yamicchi
1,175 posts
Joined May 2015
Yamicchi
Kay @sheela fixed :3
osu file format v14

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TitleUnicode:Why We Lose (ft. Coleman Trapp)
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Plaudible
1,028 posts
Joined September 2015
Topic Starter
Plaudible
fixed everything, did a little remapping in the top diff for some improvements i felt were necessary. the soft hitsound sampleset at the end serves to silence stream spam, but it's not as necessary now since i changed the rhythm so i tweaked it a bit for my diff and hobbes. updated all diffs and changed volume to be more progressive

all updated!
sheela
2,651 posts
Joined October 2011
sheela
[Yamicchi's Insane]
  1. 01:38:743 (1) - 01:41:486 (1) - i'd prefer if you leave the 3/4 sliders for parts like 01:35:658 (1) -. the synth/wubwub sound is ending later on 01:38:743 - rather like 01:35:658 - that ends right at the downbeat 01:36:001 -. so 3/4 slider would fit better on 1/1 short synth than 3/2 long synth.
[Hobbes2's Light Insane]
  1. 00:28:972 (2) - soft sampleset whistle on head seems to be random since it's the only hitsound to be placed in the intro section
call me back
Plaudible
1,028 posts
Joined September 2015
Topic Starter
Plaudible
removed for hobbes, waitin for yam yam
Izzywing
osu! Alumni
2,248 posts
Joined March 2016
Izzywing
yea fix that plaud lol, not sure why my dfif has all these random hitsound mistakes z-z

edit - oh you already posted
Yamicchi
1,175 posts
Joined May 2015
Yamicchi
Dont really get what you mean but I saw some inconsistency of it so changed those you mentioned to 1/2 sliders

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Title:Why We Lose (ft. Coleman Trapp)
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Version:Yamicchi's Insane
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Tags:ncs nocopyrightsounds liquid dnb drum and bass cut short ver yamicchi hobbes2 hokichi a_r_m_i_n armin
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sheela
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Joined October 2011
sheela
it's all gooood
ZekeyHache
3,316 posts
Joined October 2009
ZekeyHache
Et sheela terre est sombre
Et sheela pluie te noie

[Easy]
  1. 01:15:772 (2) - remove this circle so 01:16:115 (3) - this slider feels more important (creating a stronger emphasis on the vocals)
[Normal]
01:06:515 - 01:16:801 - I think you should focus on following the vocals with a simpler rhythm at least just in this section. The song would be represented better in this section with a more relaxed gameplay and rhythm, and also would create more contrast with the stronger and denser parts after it. Here is my suggestion:
  1. 01:07:201 - make it a 1/1 slider
  2. 01:10:458 (3) - remove this circle
  3. 01:13:201 (3) - this one too
  4. 01:16:115 (3) - make it a 1/1 slider and delete 01:16:629 (4) - this circle
[Hobbes2's Light Insane]
  1. 02:09:943 (1) - remove nc
[ArMible's Hard]
Perhaps rename to A r M ible to represent A r M i N's name in a more accurate way? Pretty much what we changed here, so it would be nice to keep it consistent too~
  1. 00:46:629 (1,2) - fix blanket plsss
[Yamicchi's Insane]
  1. 01:06:858 (2) - previous object distance is 0.9, make it 1.05 so it's consitent with the other objects (01:07:201 (3,4,5) - )
  2. 01:14:058 (1,2) - this blanket can be improved a bit more
call me back~
Plaudible
1,028 posts
Joined September 2015
Topic Starter
Plaudible

ezek wrote:

Et sheela terre est sombre
Et sheela pluie te noie

[Easy]
  1. 01:15:772 (2) - remove this circle so 01:16:115 (3) - this slider feels more important (creating a stronger emphasis on the vocals) ok
[Normal]
01:06:515 - 01:16:801 - I think you should focus on following the vocals with a simpler rhythm at least just in this section. The song would be represented better in this section with a more relaxed gameplay and rhythm, and also would create more contrast with the stronger and denser parts after it. Here is my suggestion: i like this, did all
  1. 01:07:201 - make it a 1/1 slider
  2. 01:10:458 (3) - remove this circle
  3. 01:13:201 (3) - this one too
  4. 01:16:115 (3) - make it a 1/1 slider and delete 01:16:629 (4) - this circle
[Hobbes2's Light Insane]
  1. 02:09:943 (1) - remove nc
[ArMible's Hard]
Perhaps rename to A r M ible to represent A r M i N's name in a more accurate way? Pretty much what we changed here, so it would be nice to keep it consistent too~
  1. 00:46:629 (1,2) - fix blanket plsss
[Yamicchi's Insane]
  1. 01:06:858 (2) - previous object distance is 0.9, make it 1.05 so it's consitent with the other objects (01:07:201 (3,4,5) - )
  2. 01:14:058 (1,2) - this blanket can be improved a bit more
call me back~
fixed all for gders, they asked me to since it was minor
ZekeyHache
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ZekeyHache
q
Yamicchi
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Joined May 2015
Yamicchi
yas!
Monstrata
Elite Mapper: Aspirant
4,642 posts
Joined May 2013
Monstrata
Cartoon? Pretty sure the artist is wrong. Please change it to "Anime" thanks.
Kyouren
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Joined October 2012
Kyouren
Congratulations! :3
Hula
581 posts
Joined January 2013
Hula
Congrats and all but the repetitive patterns with the overlapping are super uncomfortable to play 01:31:030 (2,3,4,1,2) - these just don't fit the song and got boring to play.

Also, 02:08:572 (4,5,1,2) - this spacing is not good, an anti jump here is not what we're led to expect and doesn't belong, especially since you add strong hitsounds to it, there should an increase in spacing if anything.
Plaudible
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Joined September 2015
Topic Starter
Plaudible
thx fixed all
AlphaOG
5 posts
Joined November 2017
AlphaOG
Hey mate, mind if I have the full photo of the background, it would make a cool wallpaper for my PC.
Plaudible
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Joined September 2015
Topic Starter
Plaudible

AlphaOG wrote:

Hey mate, mind if I have the full photo of the background, it would make a cool wallpaper for my PC.


IIRC the one in the beatmap folder is the full isn't it? If not, the artist is swd3e2 on pixiv, might find something else you like there too! :)
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