toby fox - Here We Are

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This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Saturday, November 25, 2017 at 10:21:49 AM

Artist: toby fox
Title: Here We Are
Source: UNDERTALE
Tags: radiation ost soundtrack alphys true lab creepy
BPM: 109
Filesize: 9914kb
Play Time: 02:04
Difficulties Available:
  1. Easy (1.24 stars, 87 notes)
  2. Jeir's Hard (2.85 stars, 265 notes)
  3. Normal (2.06 stars, 189 notes)
  4. Truth (5.17 stars, 570 notes)
  5. wiki:Pika's Insane (4.11 stars, 480 notes)


Download: toby fox - Here We Are
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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"This isn't anyone else's problem but mine. But if you don't ever hear from me again... If you want to know 'the truth.' Enter the door to the north of this note. You all at least deserve to know what I did. Every day I'm scared... Scared what will happen if people learn the truth on their own. They'll all get hurt because of me.."


Ah, how I love the UNDERTALE OST. toby fox, you're amazing. <3

Ready for mods!

Github: https://github.com/Osuology/Here-We-Are-Mapset

Truth diff was inspired by really just myself. I have a map of regretroid (starbomb oh yeah) and it's very similar in flow and aesthetics to this map with the triangles and stars and such, but as for the idea of no sliders... I didn't even realize until I was 30% through making it and I was like "wait a sec I didn't even use sliders xD" so I went with it and I really like it now. Cool stuff lol

Hard by JeirYagama.
Insane by Pika

Also made hitsounds myself so yeah, using fl studio btw. DAW doesn't matter.
JeirYagtama
Welp here ya go boss
osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: audio.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: -1
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: None
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 1

[Editor]
Bookmarks: 22082,33091,44651,55660,66669,77678,88687,110706,121715
DistanceSpacing: 2
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 1.6

[Metadata]
Title:Here We Are
TitleUnicode:Here We Are
Artist:toby fox
ArtistUnicode:toby fox
Creator:Osuology
Version:Jeir's Hard
Source:UNDERTALE
Tags:radiation ost soundtrack alphys true lab creepy
BeatmapID:0
BeatmapSetID:-1

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:7
CircleSize:4
OverallDifficulty:7
ApproachRate:8
SliderMultiplier:1.4
SliderTickRate:2

[Events]
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//Break Periods
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples

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Einja
M4M
my map: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/619973

[general]
no preview point

disable widescreen support

who's the dude in the bg lol, i haven't seen him from undertale

put undertale in tags
[easy]

overlaps and 1/2 sliders = no. 3/2 sliders are okay tho

00:27:586 (1,2) - uneven ds spacing here, off by .03

00:43:275 (4) - emphasize this weird sound with just a circle on the white tick please

01:23:183 (1,2) - flow breaking, keep the counter clockwise motion going in the song.

[jeir's hard]

00:23:733 (5,6) - this is a weird sv change, at least make it a difdferent shape and NC it, or don't SV change it at all since the song doesn't change. same goes with every pattern similar to this.

00:43:412 (6,7,1) - bpm too high for 1/8 in hard diffs

00:47:403 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4) - please add variety into parts like these, because there are 1/4 sounds playing as well, and you only focused on the 1/2s, which can be quite boring. you could emphasize a ton of sounds/drums here, but you didn't choose too for some reason.


[pika's insane]
rip diffname

00:31:439 (2,2) - nazi overlap

01:27:586 (1,2,3,4,5) - a weird pattern coming out of no where, breaking flow that it currently has. ctrl g 01:27:724 (2,4) -

01:38:595 (1,1,1,1,1) - weird nc usage here
01:41:348 (1,2,1,2) - compared to this

enjoyed playing this diff it was quite fun



ok, good luck with this map
Duck with Hat
Depressing asf
Topic Starter
Osuology

Einja wrote:

M4M
my map: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/619973

[general]
no preview point We will set these.

disable widescreen support ofc

who's the dude in the bg lol, i haven't seen him from undertale It's alphys have you not even played the game

put undertale in tags I thought it was fine since it's in the source
[easy]

overlaps and 1/2 sliders = no. 3/2 sliders are okay tho You give no valid reason as if this is common knowledge. Considering spread of my map and how many 1/2 stuff there is in the normal, this is supposed to be here

00:27:586 (1,2) - uneven ds spacing here, off by .03 are you serious lol, it snaps to DS, plus it is a large rhythm gap so DS change of 0.03 is nothing.

00:43:275 (4) - emphasize this weird sound with just a circle on the white tick please it's a drumroll so personally I think slider fits better

01:23:183 (1,2) - flow breaking, keep the counter clockwise motion going in the song. I didn't change this but made more flow breaks in this pattern for more tension so as we enter the calmer section, the release of proper motion feels good

ok, good luck with this map
thanks for mod, I'll mod your map soon!
[[Pika]]

Einja wrote:

M4M
my map: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/619973

[general]
no preview point

disable widescreen support

who's the dude in the bg lol, i haven't seen him from undertale

put undertale in tags
[pika's insane]
rip diffname

00:31:439 (2,2) - nazi overlap lol ok

01:27:586 (1,2,3,4,5) - a weird pattern coming out of no where, breaking flow that it currently has. ctrl g 01:27:724 (2,4) - fine :/
01:38:595 (1,1,1,1,1) - weird nc usage here oops fixed
01:41:348 (1,2,1,2) - compared to this

enjoyed playing this diff it was quite fun positive encouragement (´・◡・`)



ok, good luck with this map
[[Pika]]
osu file format v14

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JeirYagtama

Einja wrote:

M4M
my map: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/619973

[general]
no preview point

disable widescreen support

who's the dude in the bg lol, i haven't seen him from undertale

put undertale in tags
[easy]

overlaps and 1/2 sliders = no. 3/2 sliders are okay tho

00:27:586 (1,2) - uneven ds spacing here, off by .03

00:43:275 (4) - emphasize this weird sound with just a circle on the white tick please

01:23:183 (1,2) - flow breaking, keep the counter clockwise motion going in the song.

[jeir's hard]

00:23:733 (5,6) - this is a weird sv change, at least make it a difdferent shape and NC it, or don't SV change it at all since the song doesn't change. same goes with every pattern similar to this. Alright NC also im emphasizing that strong snare sound sooo yea

00:43:412 (6,7,1) - bpm too high for 1/8 in hard diffs Uhh its just a triple with 1/8 109 bpm lo

00:47:403 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4) - please add variety into parts like these, because there are 1/4 sounds playing as well, and you only focused on the 1/2s, which can be quite boring. you could emphasize a ton of sounds/drums here, but you didn't choose too for some reason. the pattern rhythm goes a bit simple till a little bit mixed and complex and that part I emphasized the piano but then starting here 00:55:660 (1) - i started to change what im emphasizing and thats the snare then after that i started to mix both for a little bit more interesting progress and concept i used to the song since biit by bit in the game we discover the truth about Dr. Alphys and the experiments that she's doing which is mixing "DETERMINATION" into dead monsters its a little concept but I hope you understand why i mapped it like that xd


[pika's insane]
rip diffname

00:31:439 (2,2) - nazi overlap

01:27:586 (1,2,3,4,5) - a weird pattern coming out of no where, breaking flow that it currently has. ctrl g 01:27:724 (2,4) -

01:38:595 (1,1,1,1,1) - weird nc usage here
01:41:348 (1,2,1,2) - compared to this

enjoyed playing this diff it was quite fun



ok, good luck with this map
here sensei
osu file format v14

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360,136,102173,2,0,B|378:124|378:124|416:124,1,35,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
416,172,102449,5,2,0:0:0:0:
364,260,102724,1,0,0:0:0:0:
264,224,102999,1,8,0:0:0:0:
224,320,103274,1,2,0:0:0:0:
264,224,103549,1,0,0:0:0:0:
364,260,103824,1,8,0:0:0:0:
264,224,104100,6,0,L|308:168,1,70,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
348,160,104513,1,0,0:0:0:0:
388,164,104650,2,0,L|451:241,1,70,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
328,332,105201,6,0,L|288:352,1,35,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
272,304,105476,2,0,L|324:276,1,35,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
252,216,105751,1,8,0:0:0:0:
252,216,106027,6,0,L|220:231,1,35,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
188,188,106302,2,0,L|244:161,1,35,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
164,104,106577,1,8,0:0:0:0:
164,104,106852,6,0,L|196:92,1,35,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
280,96,107128,2,0,L|248:108,1,35,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
316,132,107403,2,0,L|348:120,1,35,10|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
416,144,107678,2,0,L|383:155,1,35,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
444,188,107953,6,0,L|444:256,1,35,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
400,276,108228,2,0,L|400:224,1,35,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
383,155,108503,1,8,0:0:0:0:
276,148,108779,6,0,L|277:89,1,35,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
229,165,109054,2,0,L|229:221,1,35,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
280,268,109329,1,8,0:0:0:0:
152,324,109605,6,0,B|116:336|116:336|76:324,1,70,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
48,268,110017,1,0,0:0:0:0:
84,208,110155,2,0,B|116:196|116:196|160:208,1,70,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
280,268,110706,5,2,0:0:0:0:
Topic Starter
Osuology
whoa spoilers jeir lol
JeirYagtama

Osuology wrote:

whoa spoilers jeir lol
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J1_
From my mod queue:

Normal:

00:27:586 (1,2) - The spacing here can be improved to make a better blanket

01:50:706 (1,2) - Same here

pika's Insane:

01:38:595 (1,1,1,1) - I think these should be split up into 2 combos

Fairly clean difficulties and I couldn't find anything else very noticeable

GL!
Topic Starter
Osuology

xJ1 wrote:

From my mod queue:

Normal:

00:27:586 (1,2) - The spacing here can be improved to make a better blanket done

01:50:706 (1,2) - Same here couldn't use ds to make it better, I'd rather keep distance consistent

GL! tenks for mod bro
[[Pika]]
AnimeStyle
FROM MY QUEUE


[Easy]

00:22:082 (1,3) - stack them properly
00:24:284 (2,3) - blanket them
00:30:339 (3,1) - they are a little bit too close imo
00:32:541 (4,1) - blanket
00:35:844 (3,4) - create blanket
00:38:596 (1) - anchor it mid-way - looks better and less stale
00:40:797 (2,3) - blanket
00:43:275 (4) - let it flow into (3) https://puu.sh/wMrAE/5afa607502.jpg
00:44:651 (1,3) - unessacary overlap https://puu.sh/wMrG6/28b1574960.jpg make it look clean
01:10:797 (2,3,4,1) - you got a lot of passsages in this easy that are way to crowded - either use a higher DS or make try to make them less hard to read#
01:14:926 (3,4,5) - ^ https://puu.sh/wMrNI/c5f9392bdc.jpg something like this is way easier to understand
01:28:687 (1) - just use a curved one
01:47:953 (1,2,1) - you can de-overlap this easily
01:56:210 (1,1) - ew ^

HS are really nice!

[Normal]

00:27:586 (1,2) - pls don't let them overlap - also make them more clean - they aren't shaped evenly
00:27:586 (1,3) - ^
00:38:596 (1,2) - shape em up
00:56:485 (4,5,6,7,1) - non of these are properly blanketed
01:06:669 (1,2) - ^
01:10:522 (5) - move the end a little bit up for a nicer overlap
01:14:926 (1,2,3,4) - no blanket - no life
01:16:577 (4,5) - ugly overlap
01:18:504 (3,6) - uneccasary
01:24:284 (5,7) - bli bla blanket
01:28:687 (1,2) - shape where are u
01:33:091 (3,1) - don't use jumps in a normal
01:50:706 (1,2) - shape

[Jeir's Hard]

00:00:064 (1,2) - blanket
00:00:064 (1,3) - not properly stacked
00:01:715 (3,4) - ^
00:01:715 (3,4) - ^
00:12:724 (3,4) - ^
this goes on throughout the whole map - use ctrl+g and then place both sliders in the same spot - ctrl+g back
Also before I repeat myself - you didn't properly blanet any curved sliders in thsi map - fix this - you can easily check it with ctrl+g too.
00:34:742 (1,2) - this needs to be rotated -way in order to look decent
00:51:806 (1,1) - use a blanket instead of the overlap
01:00:063 (1,2,3) - can look way betterwithout effort - just move 2 and 3 - https://puu.sh/wMssF/cc322ae4a5.jpg
01:19:329 (1,2,3,4) - looks also better in a straight line - but i would move the slideranchor to the left
01:24:834 (5,6,7) - straight line sliderend upward facing

Also do me a favor and consult AIMOD on DS - there is a lot wrong DS in your map.
Topic Starter
Osuology

AnimeStyle wrote:

FROM MY QUEUE


[Easy]

00:22:082 (1,3) - stack them properly Done.
00:24:284 (2,3) - blanket them Tried my best to fix as best as possible.
00:30:339 (3,1) - they are a little bit too close imo Moved the 3 slightly.
00:32:541 (4,1) - blanket Again tried to fix.
00:35:844 (3,4) - create blanket Unsure how to do this, not much reason for blanket here either.
00:38:596 (1) - anchor it mid-way - looks better and less stale Quite subjective choice, I think straight slider looks nice.
00:40:797 (2,3) - blanket That one was bad, fixed.
00:43:275 (4) - let it flow into (3) https://puu.sh/wMrAE/5afa607502.jpg I wanted to leave as easy as possible flow for beginner player for transition with weird rhythm. If other people mention this, I'll probably change it but for now I'll keep it as is.
00:44:651 (1,3) - unessacary overlap https://puu.sh/wMrG6/28b1574960.jpg make it look clean I'm more concerned about what to do with 4 if I were to do this.
01:10:797 (2,3,4,1) - you got a lot of passsages in this easy that are way to crowded - either use a higher DS or make try to make them less hard to read Higher DS would make spread unbalanced which is a much bigger issue than mere overlaps in easy. Making them less hard to read could be viable, but I don't see a suggestion.
01:14:926 (3,4,5) - ^ https://puu.sh/wMrNI/c5f9392bdc.jpg something like this is way easier to understand I'll see about this from testplays.
01:28:687 (1) - just use a curved one ? It's already curved a ton.
01:47:953 (1,2,1) - you can de-overlap this easily Don't really see...
01:56:210 (1,1) - ew ^ Again idk how.

HS are really nice! Thanks :)

[Normal]

00:27:586 (1,2) - pls don't let them overlap - also make them more clean - they aren't shaped evenly This was fixed from previous mod.
00:27:586 (1,3) - ^ ^
00:38:596 (1,2) - shape em up Kinda fixed.
00:56:485 (4,5,6,7,1) - non of these are properly blanketed Kinda fixed
01:06:669 (1,2) - ^ Here I'm more concerned with spacing rather than aesthetics so I can't pull this off.
01:10:522 (5) - move the end a little bit up for a nicer overlap slider end is there for equilateral triangle.
01:14:926 (1,2,3,4) - no blanket - no life fixed, but could you stop acting like a blanket isn't a blanket unless it's literally perfect? guess what,
it's not possible for it to be perfect, it will ALWAYS be off so stop being a perfectionist because it's not possible to have it pixel perfect in all scenarios.

01:16:577 (4,5) - ugly overlap fixed
01:18:504 (3,6) - uneccasary what's unnecessary
01:24:284 (5,7) - bli bla blanket fixed-ish
01:28:687 (1,2) - shape where are u fixed iish
01:33:091 (3,1) - don't use jumps in a normal what jump
01:50:706 (1,2) - shape DS>Aesthetics in this case.
Thanks for mod! <3
JeirYagtama

AnimeStyle wrote:

FROM MY QUEUE


[Easy]

00:22:082 (1,3) - stack them properly
00:24:284 (2,3) - blanket them
00:30:339 (3,1) - they are a little bit too close imo
00:32:541 (4,1) - blanket
00:35:844 (3,4) - create blanket
00:38:596 (1) - anchor it mid-way - looks better and less stale
00:40:797 (2,3) - blanket
00:43:275 (4) - let it flow into (3) https://puu.sh/wMrAE/5afa607502.jpg
00:44:651 (1,3) - unessacary overlap https://puu.sh/wMrG6/28b1574960.jpg make it look clean
01:10:797 (2,3,4,1) - you got a lot of passsages in this easy that are way to crowded - either use a higher DS or make try to make them less hard to read#
01:14:926 (3,4,5) - ^ https://puu.sh/wMrNI/c5f9392bdc.jpg something like this is way easier to understand
01:28:687 (1) - just use a curved one
01:47:953 (1,2,1) - you can de-overlap this easily
01:56:210 (1,1) - ew ^

HS are really nice!

[Normal]

00:27:586 (1,2) - pls don't let them overlap - also make them more clean - they aren't shaped evenly
00:27:586 (1,3) - ^
00:38:596 (1,2) - shape em up
00:56:485 (4,5,6,7,1) - non of these are properly blanketed
01:06:669 (1,2) - ^
01:10:522 (5) - move the end a little bit up for a nicer overlap
01:14:926 (1,2,3,4) - no blanket - no life
01:16:577 (4,5) - ugly overlap
01:18:504 (3,6) - uneccasary
01:24:284 (5,7) - bli bla blanket
01:28:687 (1,2) - shape where are u
01:33:091 (3,1) - don't use jumps in a normal
01:50:706 (1,2) - shape

[Jeir's Hard]

00:00:064 (1,2) - blanket I think the blanket is fine lo
00:00:064 (1,3) - not properly stacked uhh wat the stack is perfectly overlapped lo
00:01:715 (3,4) - ^ ^
00:01:715 (3,4) - ^ ^
00:12:724 (3,4) - ^ ^
this goes on throughout the whole map - use ctrl+g and then place both sliders in the same spot - ctrl+g back
Also before I repeat myself - you didn't properly blanet any curved sliders in thsi map - fix this - you can easily check it with ctrl+g too.
00:34:742 (1,2) - this needs to be rotated -way in order to look decent I think it looks fine to me sooo yea
00:51:806 (1,1) - use a blanket instead of the overlap I think it looks fine to me sooo yea
01:00:063 (1,2,3) - can look way betterwithout effort - just move 2 and 3 - https://puu.sh/wMssF/cc322ae4a5.jpg I think it looks fine to me sooo yea
01:19:329 (1,2,3,4) - looks also better in a straight line - but i would move the slideranchor to the left I think it looks fine to me sooo yea
01:24:834 (5,6,7) - straight line sliderend upward facing I think it looks fine to me sooo yea

Also do me a favor and consult AIMOD on DS - there is a lot wrong DS in your map. Uhhh you do know this is a "Hard" difficulty meaning its not like easy or normal that you have to use ds on the entire map soooooo apply that to your next mods when modding a hard
Thx for le mod new mapper~
meii18
just passing by

[general]
*drum-hitclap3, drum-hitclap4,drum-hitclap5 and drum-hitclap6's lenght is below 100ms which is against RC you must increase their lenght above 100ms if possible
*what the actual fuck is this one? https://puu.sh/wNUgf/3f71325c99.png // and this one too? http://puu.sh/wNUjp/442e24000e.png they're not even used in the map and not even related to the game too
*is drum-hitfinish used? moreover, i would like to search for another one to fit much better the song because the current one is just a disorted sound ugh
*in the kiai can you explain me why did you use low volume? you used 75% at non-kiai parts but at the kiai you used only 60% and the hitsounds are barely audible tbh because the song is more intense in kiai parts in comparison with non-kiai parts so you have to increase the volume at kiai parts to at least 75-80% in order to make the hitsounds audible

[easy]
*00:24:834 (3) - unsnapped tail
*00:27:587 (1,2,3) - the instruments are the same but you started to change the rhythm for no reason which breaks the consistency with 00:22:082 (1,2,3,4) - for instance because that first measure of 00:22:082 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - is almost the same with 00:38:596 (1,2,3,4) - and this one isn't so i would prefer to have a rhythm like you did for 00:38:596 (1,2,3,4) - to keep the consistency through the whole section // 00:33:091 (1,2,3,4) - here applies too
*00:43:275 (4) - having this one as a note instead as a kickslider would be enough to support the music properly
*00:46:577 (2) - i know you wanted to follow the instruments perfectly here but the newbie players struggle at aiming sliders so replacing this offbeat slider with reverse arrow with a note wouldn't hurt at all because it will still follow the song but also it will be more easier for target players // 00:52:082 (2) - same applies here
*00:57:036 (2,3,4) - this really needs to be...nerfed because it could be hard for target players to aim it properly imo a rhythm like this one https://puu.sh/wNWQf/34b9299194.jpg should work tbh // 01:10:797 (2,3,4) - here applies too
*00:58:412 (1,3) - ugh that overlap xd
*01:01:164 (3) - missing nc?
*01:08:871 (3) - missing clap on its head
*01:14:926 (3,4,5,6) - this one should get a nerf too because i don't a newbie player can aim this whole pattern properly imo i know you want to follow the song more accurately but think about newbie players for these sliders are more harder than notes don't think about they can't click just some pitty 1/1 circles anyway you can nerf this pattern like this one https://puu.sh/wNX8Z/abeb29df3a.jpg to make it more easier for newbie players
*01:38:871 (2) - the same thing as i said for 00:46:577 (2) - a note would fit much better here for the sake of newbie player's ability to aim the hitobject properly // 01:49:880 (2) - same xd
*01:39:696 (1) - this one touches the hp bar yukkk

[normal]
*00:24:834 (1,2,3,4) - from this whole section this is the only one where you used different rhythm structure imo in this whole non-kiai section you used mostly only polarity rhythms like 1/1 then offbeat slider then 1/1 and so on why don't you make the same here too?

i feel like i want to stop here. the spread gap between Easy and Normal is very HUGE because the Easy consists only of 1/1s, 1/2s and even some 2/2 and few kicksliders while in Normal it's like you achieved for mapping an Advanced one because in the kiai parts you used mostly 1/1 notes and 1/2 notes than sliders you can either decrease the note density in Normal's kiai parts or mapping a new Normal between both of them and name the current one Advanced.

osu needs more UNDERTALE <3
gl!
Topic Starter
Osuology

ByBy wrote:

just passing by

[general]
*drum-hitclap3, drum-hitclap4,drum-hitclap5 and drum-hitclap6's lenght is below 100ms which is against RC you must increase their lenght above 100ms if possible weird but ok I'll do that
*what the actual fuck is this one? https://puu.sh/wNUgf/3f71325c99.png // and this one too? http://puu.sh/wNUjp/442e24000e.png they're not even used in the map and not even related to the game too they are used for github which I'm using for backup purposes.
I'll remove these in the final version that will be ranked.

*is drum-hitfinish used? moreover, i would like to search for another one to fit much better the song because the current one is just a disorted sound ugh Looks like you didn't even notice it, but it's everywhere...
*in the kiai can you explain me why did you use low volume? you used 75% at non-kiai parts but at the kiai you used only 60% and the hitsounds are barely audible tbh because the song is more intense in kiai parts in comparison with non-kiai parts so you have to increase the volume at kiai parts to at least 75-80% in order to make the hitsounds audible Seems like this was a mistake that was only in some difficulties. Fixed.

[easy]
*00:24:834 (3) - unsnapped tail fixed
*00:27:587 (1,2,3) - the instruments are the same but you started to change the rhythm for no reason which breaks the consistency with 00:22:082 (1,2,3,4) - for instance because that first measure of 00:22:082 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - is almost the same with 00:38:596 (1,2,3,4) - and this one isn't so i would prefer to have a rhythm like you did for 00:38:596 (1,2,3,4) - to keep the consistency through the whole section // 00:33:091 (1,2,3,4) - here applies too fixed as far as I can tell
*00:43:275 (4) - having this one as a note instead as a kickslider would be enough to support the music properly I wanted to represent the whole drum roll so I chose a slider instead, as well as it follows the hitsound scheme between difficulties way better.
*00:46:577 (2) - i know you wanted to follow the instruments perfectly here but the newbie players struggle at aiming sliders so replacing this offbeat slider with reverse arrow with a note wouldn't hurt at all because it will still follow the song but also it will be more easier for target players // 00:52:082 (2) - same applies here I know it's ugly and will be difficult to play but for sake of the spread I'll keep it for now. Normal has too many 1/2 to start removing a button of Easy's 1/2's.
*00:57:036 (2,3,4) - this really needs to be...nerfed because it could be hard for target players to aim it properly imo a rhythm like this one https://puu.sh/wNWQf/34b9299194.jpg should work tbh // 01:10:797 (2,3,4) - here applies too Nerfed slightly. Might change this depending on how many people point this out and judging from easy testplayers.
*00:58:412 (1,3) - ugh that overlap xd xd
*01:01:164 (3) - missing nc? noticed NC's were really messed up so I fixed them in general for the kiai.
*01:08:871 (3) - missing clap on its head hmm, hitsound copier should have picked that up, that's weird.
*01:14:926 (3,4,5,6) - this one should get a nerf too because i don't a newbie player can aim this whole pattern properly imo i know you want to follow the song more accurately but think about newbie players for these sliders are more harder than notes don't think about they can't click just some pitty 1/1 circles anyway you can nerf this pattern like this one https://puu.sh/wNX8Z/abeb29df3a.jpg to make it more easier for newbie players as I said above
*01:38:871 (2) - the same thing as i said for 00:46:577 (2) - a note would fit much better here for the sake of newbie player's ability to aim the hitobject properly // 01:49:880 (2) - same xd this time I do it for tension purposes to switch between 4 bars
*01:39:696 (1) - this one touches the hp bar yukkk gross dude

[normal]
*00:24:834 (1,2,3,4) - from this whole section this is the only one where you used different rhythm structure imo in this whole non-kiai section you used mostly only polarity rhythms like 1/1 then offbeat slider then 1/1 and so on why don't you make the same here too? Fixed.

i feel like i want to stop here. the spread gap between Easy and Normal is very HUGE because the Easy consists only of 1/1s, 1/2s and even some 2/2 and few kicksliders while in Normal it's like you achieved for mapping an Advanced one because in the kiai parts you used mostly 1/1 notes and 1/2 notes than sliders you can either decrease the note density in Normal's kiai parts or mapping a new Normal between both of them and name the current one Advanced.

While I see where you're coming from, I'm gonna respectfully decline for now because I believe it's fine, on this basis. The easy could be called somewhere in between Easy and Normal to be honest, especially with all the 1/2 and hard to aim stuff, even 2/2 and kick sliders. At this BPM, I would honestly call it an Easy+. Advanced is basically another word for Normal+, a difficulty in between Normal and Hard. The normal even includes a 1/4 kickslider.
Would definitely not call that typical of a "normal" Normal diff (no pun intended). Spread was designed on purpose in this manner.


osu needs more UNDERTALE <3
gl!
Thanks for the pretty in depth mod for easy and normal!
MaridiuS
Hey, mod from my queue. So this kind of map if it get mods it will be rather hard to agree on some because it would force i think a lot of remapping since everything is basically connected and the same. So please bear with me for a while, it will mostly be general things for start.

[Truth]
  1. You start your map by giving these some flow/spacing emphasis whilst also NCing them 00:23:733 (1,1,1) - . That gives the player idea that such dominant sounds will be given priority or some kind of emphasis after the intro.
  2. While in the chorus they're kinda disregarded to a level. The sounds last for a while, are strongly audible, they form the core of the song. Sometimes they don't get any emphasis: 00:50:156 (1) - 00:50:981 (6) - 00:51:806 (1) - 00:52:907 (1) - , I'm referring to these sounds. Some of those I linked got some emphasis, but mostly not, and that imo is a mistake. That gets me to feel underwhelmed by playing the map, like i'm missing something. While at the other hand, sometimes i feel overwhelmed by the rhythm density: 00:52:495 (6) - . I kinda suggest following the chorus of the song by increased spacing not by increased density. You can for example make 00:52:357 (5) - a slider, that'd give it emphasis and give some space to the player for the strong note. Whats more, the note is used as a filler circle in its current state, it's completely disregarded, like it is of no importance. I don't think straight sliders would cause much harm to the general structuring.
  3. Next would be the difficult spike. The song to me sounds the same, its a game ost, so I think that even more stands by my opinion, as they usually have similar level of intensity, not trying anything groundbreaking. 00:44:651 - comparing this to 01:06:669 - I hear no increase of the intensity in the song, but the spacing is extremely higher. I don't think that the map should do something to directly increase the difficulty and not going gimmicky or such.
  4. 00:46:990 - u're missing this note hmmm... Also you kinda gave these notes the biggest emphasis which is kinda weird 00:47:128 (5,6,1) - , I suggest stacking 5 to 6, that make more sense imo. I don't feel like they're stronger than the usual beats.
  5. 00:55:660 (1,2,3,4,5) - for your structuring I thing using triangles as a form of patterns doesn't really fit, because 00:56:073 (4) - is also stacked, not making 00:56:210 (5) - feel special anymore.
  6. 01:00:889 (5,6,1) - believe that you can place it here for logical emphasis, like you did spacing for 01:00:063 (1,2) - , this should also have similar spacing http://i.imgur.com/vwHKwTP.jpg
  7. 01:03:366 (5,6,7) - here you increased spacing starting from (5) but here on NC 01:25:797 (8,1) - or something is weird idk 01:03:366 (5,6,7,8) - p.s I don't like how this looks, hexagrid is not in use here, pattern should be remapped to follow hexagrid structure, look how close 7 to 5 is.


good luck, not really a usual way to mod, but I don't see a different way to mod such styled maps.
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