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Arrival
looking good to me however i'd like to hear some other BNs insight before going further ahead

mod august 9 21:41 utc+2
2017-08-09 21:18 Arrival: 02:28:468 - why dont you make a full stream or longer streams here ?
2017-08-09 21:18 frukoyurdakul: oh
2017-08-09 21:18 frukoyurdakul: because the drums are simpler
2017-08-09 21:19 frukoyurdakul: compared to the streamy ones
2017-08-09 21:22 Arrival: 04:01:640 (615,616) - ctrl g this
2017-08-09 21:22 Arrival: would sound less weird
2017-08-09 21:22 frukoyurdakul: like dkddk?
2017-08-09 21:22 Arrival: ye
2017-08-09 21:23 frukoyurdakul: okay, it works
2017-08-09 21:26 Arrival: 04:07:409 - i dont really like that part though
2017-08-09 21:26 Arrival: i find most of the streams quite unfitting
2017-08-09 21:27 frukoyurdakul: judging by the drums kdkdk and their variations fit I think
2017-08-09 21:28 Arrival: you cant map this to the drums lol
2017-08-09 21:28 Arrival: the guitar is way too dominant
2017-08-09 21:28 Arrival: first part works somewhat fine
2017-08-09 21:28 frukoyurdakul: I guess that's fair
2017-08-09 21:29 frukoyurdakul: then I can make it similiar
2017-08-09 21:29 Arrival: but i'd really like you to reconsider the second one
2017-08-09 21:29 Arrival: i'm fine with the rest of the map though
2017-08-09 21:30 Arrival: but i'd like you to ask an other bn for some insight
2017-08-09 21:30 Arrival: before i go further with the iconing
2017-08-09 21:31 frukoyurdakul: hmm
2017-08-09 21:32 frukoyurdakul: why don't you check this map again after the update
2017-08-09 21:32 frukoyurdakul: i've made some changes
2017-08-09 21:32 Arrival: i'm fine as it is i can star it if you want
2017-08-09 21:32 Arrival: but i want to be sure of whatothers may think
2017-08-09 21:33 Arrival: before i nominate it xd
2017-08-09 21:33 frukoyurdakul: I'll ask surono
2017-08-09 21:33 frukoyurdakul: and probably he'll bubble it
2017-08-09 21:33 frukoyurdakul: updated btw
2017-08-09 21:34 Arrival: yeah the part seems better
2017-08-09 21:35 frukoyurdakul: mhm, do you still wanna wait for other BN's opinion?
2017-08-09 21:35 Arrival: btw can you confirm metadata ?
2017-08-09 21:35 Arrival: Yes
2017-08-09 21:36 Arrival: i mean about this map as a whole
2017-08-09 21:36 Arrival: to see if they may want to polish it
2017-08-09 21:36 frukoyurdakul: okay i understand
2017-08-09 21:36 frukoyurdakul: btw about metadata: the speed of dark is the album name
2017-08-09 21:36 frukoyurdakul: well, the upcoming album name
2017-08-09 21:36 frukoyurdakul: it's obviously instrumental, i put "guitar solo" on the tags because of it
2017-08-09 21:36 frukoyurdakul: it's a marathon and it includes streams :D
2017-08-09 21:37 Arrival: im talking about the title + artist lul
2017-08-09 21:37 Arrival: i dont care about the tags
2017-08-09 21:37 frukoyurdakul: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVsfGqowvOk
2017-08-09 21:37 Arrival: okay looks Legit
2017-08-09 21:38 frukoyurdakul: the only thing about it is the artist name
2017-08-09 21:38 frukoyurdakul: since it's in all caps
2017-08-09 21:38 frukoyurdakul: but he is a youtuber and his youtube channel name includes small letters
2017-08-09 21:38 frukoyurdakul: so i chose to use that way
2017-08-09 21:39 Arrival: im on his bandcamp
2017-08-09 21:39 Arrival: i guess its good like this
2017-08-09 21:39 frukoyurdakul: agreed
2017-08-09 21:39 frukoyurdakul: so if it gets a bubble i'll call you back
2017-08-09 21:39 Arrival: yeah
Surono
mod
01:27 frukoyurdakul: feeling better?
01:28 Surono: idk
01:28 Surono: asdfqw
01:28 frukoyurdakul: somehow i knew you'd said that lol
01:28 Surono: wwwwq X"Ddd
01:28 frukoyurdakul: usually you enter discord but this time you didn't so i was a bit worried
01:28 frukoyurdakul: nice connection
01:29 Surono: conectson
01:30 frukoyurdakul: anyway, I was going to request something :p
01:30 frukoyurdakul: if you are available
01:30 Surono: yeh wats that
01:31 frukoyurdakul: acid reign :^)
01:40 frukoyurdakul: did you just ignore me :(
01:41 *Surono is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1288323 Angel Vivaldi - Acid Reign]
01:41 Surono: jst finishd
01:41 Surono: n yeh here is AM time
01:41 frukoyurdakul: aah i know
01:41 frukoyurdakul: sorry
01:47 frukoyurdakul: man you nailed it
01:51 frukoyurdakul: so... did you like it? :^)
01:58 Surono: am
01:59 frukoyurdakul: :ok_hand:
01:59 Surono: m
01:59 Surono: 01:03:805 - dlt
02:00 frukoyurdakul: done
02:01 Surono: 01:32:362 - k , yeh here mostly du du du du du uu
02:01 Surono: u
02:01 frukoyurdakul: 01:32:218 (674) - drums are lower
02:01 frukoyurdakul: no, higher
02:02 frukoyurdakul: prominent sounds are 01:32:218 (674,676,678) - these, which are kats
02:02 frukoyurdakul: I think don fits
02:02 Surono: ikr
02:02 Surono: with e
02:02 Surono: 01:45:631 - so rip
02:02 frukoyurdakul: didn't change it
02:03 frukoyurdakul: done
02:03 Surono: 01:45:776 - u start da alteration here,.
02:03 Surono: dem
02:03 frukoyurdakul: 01:45:631 - changed to kat
02:03 Surono: kadokadokadokokakakdokakakakaka
02:03 frukoyurdakul: can't read it lol
02:06 Surono: same
02:07 frukoyurdakul: lol
02:07 Surono: 03:44:621 - ~ 03:45:487 - kdkkkdk or kdkkddk
02:08 Surono: 03:52:698 - too over, would be lik k kkk kdk and etc etc
02:08 frukoyurdakul: hmm
02:08 frukoyurdakul: for the first part
02:09 Surono: 03:44:910 - or just kat it
02:09 Surono: yez stupud surudnu
02:09 frukoyurdakul: k d k d k d
02:09 frukoyurdakul: too similar
02:09 Surono: ye
02:09 Surono: boring
02:09 frukoyurdakul: changed to k d k k k d k
02:09 frukoyurdakul: better
02:09 frukoyurdakul: 2nd one is not over though
02:09 Surono: 03:57:313 -
02:09 frukoyurdakul: guitar is 1/4
02:10 frukoyurdakul: yeah that one
02:10 Surono: then use low vol
02:10 Surono: i forget how tomoddinggm ,
02:10 frukoyurdakul: I already dropped down to 60% 03:41:737 - here
02:10 Surono: and now my headphone rip, but bette rwith spreaker, still able to listen
02:11 frukoyurdakul: uhh
02:11 frukoyurdakul: i'm between two options now
02:12 Surono: 04:18:083 - k here,
02:12 frukoyurdakul: tell me which one is better
02:12 Surono: dlting ,.
02:12 frukoyurdakul: either I drop down the volume to 50% between 03:52:626 - this pattern and raise it back
02:12 frukoyurdakul: or change it to kkd kkd k
02:12 Surono: yeah
02:13 frukoyurdakul: decreased volume between those
02:13 frukoyurdakul: you'll see after the update
02:13 Surono: overlap with overmap are differ , "overmap doesnt mean bad" whoo had this quote.. dem this quote for ozziozrock from std bn in da past wew
02:14 frukoyurdakul: that's not overmapping though
02:14 frukoyurdakul: i'm mapping the guitar solo which have sounds on all of the notes
02:15 frukoyurdakul: but, yeah it does sound high so i reduced the volume
02:15 frukoyurdakul: as you suggested
02:15 frukoyurdakul: 04:18:083 (2102) - I don't wanna make this kat
02:16 frukoyurdakul: 04:16:496 (2088,2091) - same pitch, they're both dons
02:16 Surono: 04:21:256 (2132,2133,2134,2135,2136) - better this
02:16 Surono: lol i dont understand with that - _- imma stupud
02:16 frukoyurdakul: listen to the guitar
02:16 Surono: i dont like mapper with their own sense at mapping, but me still like nweff or something like nofool...
02:16 Surono: okey just it
02:16 Surono: posting

edit:
fixed some minor emphasize/error alteration.
my concern e.g 03:52:698 - here etc, I suggestd to make it like x xxx xxx but ye mapper applied decreased vol
arridem me let u check it again
Arrival
re IRCed good luck
Surono
Approved

iyi şans
Topic Starter
frukoyurdakul

Surono wrote:

Approved

iyi şans
<3<3<3
zigizigiefe
O ZAMAN DANS!
Topic Starter
frukoyurdakul
RENK
Surono
zigizigiefe
Mapte bazı olası metronom hataları buldum ve paylaşmak istedim. Eğer bana katılmazsan, QAT'nin görüşlerini bekleriz. / I found some potential metronome issues on the map and I want to share it. If you don't agree with me, we would wait for QAT's opinion.

  1. 03:18:948 - I guess main beat is here, should be 6/4.
  2. 03:20:679 - Comparing with 03:13:468 -, seems that guitar starts in 2nd beat of the measure at 03:20:679 -. So 03:20:679 - Change to 4/4 metronome, then add 5/4 at 03:21:832 -.
  3. 03:34:813 - ^
  4. 03:31:639 - Main beat is here, you should add 4/4 metronome
  5. 03:38:563 -
  6. 04:07:409 - Same as second suggestion, if we compare with 04:00:198 -. Guitar skips 1st beat.
That's all I've found. I hope I'm wrong, because the map is EPIC

Seni seviyorum <3
Raiden
zigi is partially correct
[Timing]
02:21:545 - is 3/4. 6/4 halves the amount of actual downbeats. While 6/4 fits to some bars, it doesn't for many. It's best to simply change to 3/4

actually that part is many times off lol also the kiai needs some adjustments as well

6539,288.461538461538,4,1,0,70,1,0
48077,288.461538461538,4,1,0,70,1,8
48095,294.117647058824,4,1,0,70,1,0
50418,288.461538461538,4,1,0,70,1,0
51546,288.461538461538,4,1,0,70,1,0
61930,288.461538461538,6,1,0,70,1,0
113853,288.461538461538,4,1,0,70,1,0
141545,288.461538461538,3,1,0,70,1,0
193468,288.461538461538,5,1,0,50,1,0
196352,288.461538461538,9,1,0,70,1,0
198948,288.461538461538,6,1,0,50,1,0
200679,288.461538461538,5,1,0,50,1,0
203563,288.461538461538,3,1,0,70,1,0
204429,288.461538461538,5,1,0,50,1,0
205871,288.461538461538,3,1,0,50,1,0
207601,288.461538461538,5,1,0,50,1,0
210485,288.461538461538,4,1,0,70,1,0
211638,288.461538461538,11,1,0,70,1,0
214813,288.461538461538,5,1,0,70,1,0
217697,288.461538461538,3,1,0,70,1,0
218563,288.461538461538,11,1,0,70,1,0
221737,288.461538461538,4,1,0,60,1,0
240198,288.461538461538,5,1,0,70,1,1
243082,288.461538461538,4,1,0,70,1,1
245390,288.461538461538,7,1,0,70,1,1
247409,288.461538461538,5,1,0,70,1,1
250293,288.461538461538,3,1,0,70,1,1
251158,288.461538461538,5,1,0,70,1,1
252601,288.461538461538,6,1,0,70,1,1
254331,288.461538461538,6,1,0,70,1,0

The parts that are 13/4 and 11/4 can be timed as 7/4+6/4 and 7/4+4/4 if you feel uncomfortable with such signatures

cool song, we need more of these

edit: 13/4 feels more accurate as two 5/4 bars followed by one 3/4 bar so nvm me
and the 11/4 can be both, both are correct depending on what you think the reset is
edit 2: 9/4 can be 5/4+4/4
Topic Starter
frukoyurdakul

zigizigiefe wrote:

Mapte bazı olası metronom hataları buldum ve paylaşmak istedim. Eğer bana katılmazsan, QAT'nin görüşlerini bekleriz. / I found some potential metronome issues on the map and I want to share it. If you don't agree with me, we would wait for QAT's opinion.

  1. 03:18:948 - I guess main beat is here, should be 6/4.
  2. 03:20:679 - Comparing with 03:13:468 -, seems that guitar starts in 2nd beat of the measure at 03:20:679 -. So 03:20:679 - Change to 4/4 metronome, then add 5/4 at 03:21:832 -.
  3. 03:34:813 - ^
  4. 03:31:639 - Main beat is here, you should add 4/4 metronome
  5. 03:38:563 -
  6. 04:07:409 - Same as second suggestion, if we compare with 04:00:198 -. Guitar skips 1st beat.
That's all I've found. I hope I'm wrong, because the map is EPIC

Seni seviyorum <3

Raiden wrote:

zigi is partially correct
[Timing]
02:21:545 - is 3/4. 6/4 halves the amount of actual downbeats. While 6/4 fits to some bars, it doesn't for many. It's best to simply change to 3/4

actually that part is many times off lol also the kiai needs some adjustments as well

6539,288.461538461538,4,1,0,70,1,0
48077,288.461538461538,4,1,0,70,1,8
48095,294.117647058824,4,1,0,70,1,0
50418,288.461538461538,4,1,0,70,1,0
51546,288.461538461538,4,1,0,70,1,0
61930,288.461538461538,6,1,0,70,1,0
113853,288.461538461538,4,1,0,70,1,0
141545,288.461538461538,3,1,0,70,1,0
193468,288.461538461538,5,1,0,50,1,0
196352,288.461538461538,9,1,0,70,1,0
198948,288.461538461538,6,1,0,50,1,0
200679,288.461538461538,5,1,0,50,1,0
203563,288.461538461538,3,1,0,70,1,0
204429,288.461538461538,5,1,0,50,1,0
205871,288.461538461538,3,1,0,50,1,0
207601,288.461538461538,5,1,0,50,1,0
210485,288.461538461538,4,1,0,70,1,0
211638,288.461538461538,11,1,0,70,1,0
214813,288.461538461538,5,1,0,70,1,0
217697,288.461538461538,3,1,0,70,1,0
218563,288.461538461538,11,1,0,70,1,0
221737,288.461538461538,4,1,0,60,1,0
240198,288.461538461538,5,1,0,70,1,1
243082,288.461538461538,4,1,0,70,1,1
245390,288.461538461538,7,1,0,70,1,1
247409,288.461538461538,5,1,0,70,1,1
250293,288.461538461538,3,1,0,70,1,1
251158,288.461538461538,5,1,0,70,1,1
252601,288.461538461538,6,1,0,70,1,1
254331,288.461538461538,6,1,0,70,1,0

The parts that are 13/4 and 11/4 can be timed as 7/4+6/4 and 7/4+4/4 if you feel uncomfortable with such signatures

cool song, we need more of these

edit: 13/4 feels more accurate as two 5/4 bars followed by one 3/4 bar so nvm me
and the 11/4 can be both, both are correct depending on what you think the reset is
edit 2: 9/4 can be 5/4+4/4
To reply on both of these suggestions because they are related, I applied Raiden's timing on this map and changed the 9/4 and 11/4 to 5/4 + 4/4 and 6/4 + 5/4 in order to keep the timing accurate. Changed the first 6/4 beats to 3/4 as well. But, kept the original kiai places in order to emphasize the hard parts like I did it before.

Requesting a disqualification to update the beatmap.

Edit: In order to check the beatmap before the disqualification, here is the link of the fixed timing and notes.
Nardoxyribonucleic
Disqualified as requested by map creator to fix the aforementioned metronome issues.
Topic Starter
frukoyurdakul
Updated with:

Added multiple timing points due to the 1ms overlapping barline issues.

Some of the barline volumes were 70% instead of 50%, fixed those as well.
Surono
barlines are complicated like my bran,./ i brain, residentsleeper

brainless.
Topic Starter
frukoyurdakul

Surono wrote:

barlines are complicated like my bran,./ i brain, residentsleeper

brainless.
Barlines are brainless indeed...
Arrival
new measure and timing changes, bubble rep.
Topic Starter
frukoyurdakul
2nd update:

As discussed with Raiden, 04:05:678 - this and 04:12:601 - this one (red timing point) are changed to 3/4, they were 6/4 before. (Edit: that happened before the bubble :D)
Surono
back
Topic Starter
frukoyurdakul

Surono wrote:

back
Thank you! <again ;w;>
zigizigiefe
Tebrikler bi'tanem <3
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