This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 2017年11月21日 at 23:57:08

Artist: Nekomata L.E.D.Master+
Title: Chrono Diver -PENDULUMs-
Source: beatmania IIDX 22 PENDUAL
Tags: Toshiyuki Kakuta Naoyuki Sato 4th KONAMI Arcade Championship CHRONO BREAKS
BPM: 196
Filesize: 6244kb
Play Time: 01:54
Difficulties Available:

1. Another - 4Key (4.16 stars, 1546 notes)
2. Hyper - 4Key (3.16 stars, 1055 notes)
3. Normal - 4Key (1.93 stars, 615 notes)

Download: Nekomata L.E.D.Master+ - Chrono Diver -PENDULUMs-
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Hello,Tofu1222
Me again!
Here HS Check as request
Sugestion：Adjusting the Playback Rate(Your editor right bottom)to slow or fast when you're catching the Hitsounds. It will help a lot and make it more accurately.
Read this when you finish the check
猫叉Master XDD
Familiar melody with the map that I mod recently XD
Good Luck！

1164530434 wrote:

Hello,Tofu1222
Me again!
Here HS Check as request

SPOILER

Beatmap Version：May 12, 2017

1234

Volume Overall 70%-100%

00:01:040 - 00:08:386 Why you all adding F in 1？you can replace it by other HS

00:20:172 - Add one note in 4 and C

00:20:325 - ^ in 2 and W

00:20:631 - Add F

00:25:529 - Add C

00:29:662 - Add W in 2

00:30:427 - Add C

00:35:325 - ^

00:39:458 - Add W in 2

00:40:223 - Add C

00:45:121 - ^

00:48:948 - Add W in 2

00:49:101 - W change to C and move to 4

00:49:254 - Add W in 2

00:50:019 - Add C

00:50:478 - Add W

00:50:784 - Add one note in 2 and W

00:50:937 - Add C

00:51:397 - Add W

00:51:703 - Add one note in 2 and W

00:52:468 - Add C

00:52:927 - Add W

00:53:233 - Add one note in 2 and W

00:53:386 - Add C

00:53:846 - Add W

00:54:152 - Add one note in 2 and W

00:54:917 - Add C

00:55:376 - Add W

00:55:682 - Add one note in 2 and W

00:55:835 - Add C

00:56:295 - Add W

00:56:601 - Add one note in 2 and W

00:57:366 - Add F

* 00:57:366 - 00:58:591 I think 1/3 Snap in this part.Plz also fix it in Another
00:57:596 - C move to 00:57:570
00:57:876 - Add W
00:57:978 - Add F
00:58:208 - C move to 00:58:182
00:58:386 - Add W
00:58:437 - C move to 00:58:488

00:58:591 - Add C

00:58:897 - Add one note in 4 and C

01:00:937 - Add one note in 2 and W

01:03:182 - Add one note in 4 and C

01:03:386 - Add one note in 2 and W

01:03:488 - Add C

01:05:835 - Add one note in 2 and W

01:08:080 - C→W move to 2

01:08:386 - Add F

01:12:825 - Add C

01:12:978 - Add W
----------------------------------------------------------

01:13:284 - Add C

01:23:080 - ^

01:27:978 - ^

01:32:876 - ^

01:33:182 (93182|3,93335|1) - Ctrl+J

01:33:642 - Add one note in 2 and W

01:33:795 - W→C move to 4

01:34:101 (94101|3,94254|1) - Ctrl+J

01:34:560 - Add one note in 2 and W

01:34:713 - W→C move to 4

01:35:019 - C→W move to 2

01:35:172 - Add C

01:37:774 - ^

01:38:080 (98080|3,98540|3,98999|3,99458|3,99917|3) - C→W move to 2

01:38:233 (98233|0,98693|0,99152|0,99611|0,100070|0) - Add C

01:42:672 - Add C

01:42:978 (102978|3,103131|1) - Ctrl+J

01:43:437 - Add one note in 2 and W

01:43:591 - FC move to 4

01:43:897 (103897|3,104050|1) - Ctrl+J

01:44:356 - Add one note in 2 and W

01:44:509 - FC move to 4

01:44:815 (104815|3) - C→W move to 2

01:44:968 - Add C

01:47:570 - ^

01:47:876 (107876|3,108335|3,108795|3,109254|3,109713|3) - C→W move to 2

01:48:029 (108029|0,108488|0,108948|0,109407|0,109866|0) - Add C

01:52:468 - Add C

Sugestion：Adjusting the Playback Rate(Your editor right bottom)to slow or fast when you're catching the Hitsounds. It will help a lot and make it more accurately.
Read this when you finish the check

SPOILER

I add some extra HS:
Replace in bell
some piano HS at the beginning
Default HS
there're also a HS diff for review add it in your map
http://puu.sh/vRW6c/1ec68b63cc.zip

猫叉Master XDD
Familiar melody with the map that I mod recently XD
Good Luck！

All fixed and Thanks a lot

Welp, Imma stop annoying you on Discord to do an actual and formal mod I guess.

[General]
As I said on Discord, the difficulty gap between Normal and Hyper is too big (both Star Rating-wise and pattern-wise), and your idea of nerfing Hyper is not really a good one either, since as I've said, the diff gap between Hyper and Another would most likely end up being too big if you do so. So I highly suggest you to get another difficulty between Normal and Hard to fill the skill gap. Heck, I can even do so if you don't wanna do another difficulty for it.

All difficulties are OD and HP 8 ??? ???
Here are some values in case you didn't had an idea on what to put:
Normal: OD 7.5 and HP 7
Hyper: OD 8 and HP 8 (Only if you do add another difficulty, which as I said, is HIGHLY ADVISABLE. If for some reason, you don't add another diff between Normal-Hyper, make HP 7.5 instead)
Another: OD 8.5 and HP 8, because of the lack of LNs, it's advisable to have a slightly higher OD. But if you accept my suggestion below that changes a section into a more LN-oriented section, then OD 8 HP 8.5 would be more advisable.

Also, CHRONO BREAKS is the genre of the song, so it shouldn't be as Artist, but on tags instead. Rest of the metadata looks fine.

Finally, add these to tags: "Toshiyuki Kakuta Naoyuki Sato 4th KONAMI Arcade Championship". Those are the composers, and because the song was first shown on the 4th KONAMI Championship (Don't forget to remove CHRONO BREAKS from artist and add it as part of the tags too)

[Another]
00:01:040 - Here at the very start, I feel it should be better to emphasize the piano every 1/1 with a double, instead of leaving them as singles. Since each 1/1 piano note is a high-pitched note, while the 1/2 piano notes are lower-pitched notes. (In other words, something like this is my idea: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8714396. Ofc, talking about density here, not about note placement.) Oh yeah, and if you do accept my suggestion, I suggest you leave the 1/4 streams in this section as they are, whithout doubles.

00:15:733 - This section feels weird overall. I don't really know what I'm following here with the single notes. Yes, there is a 1/2 sounds there, but it's so underwhelming I only heard it when I entered editor and had a lower playback. And if you are following the drum-ish sounds (sorry, I'm bad with instrument/sound naming), then there are missing notes, for example here 00:16:269 - and here 00:16:422 -. So I highly suggest you check this section up.

00:20:631 - Honestly, I would've preffered this section to be LN-oriented rather than focusing so much on the drums and the piano. Why? Because this section give a lot more emphasis to the techno-ish sounds (told ya I sucked at naming shit XD) and the drums, so focusing your mapping on it would feel a lot more connected to the map, rather than ignoring such a relevant sound like the techno-ish sounds and only focusing on the other relevant sound, being the drums, and the piano with is underwhelmed by the other 2, at least in this section.


If you accepted my suggestion and decided to give that section a remap, then ignore this box. But if you rejected my suggestion of changing the style of that section, then open it, since the mod for the current section is there:

On the kiai, I don't know why you chose not to map the kick (? as a triple. The section before it had kicks as triples (Ex. 00:36:856 (36856|3,36856|1,36856|0) -) and it was less intense music-wise. So why on the section with the highest intensity on the whole song, you chose to simply go with lowering the kick's intensity pattern-wise?

01:20:784 (80784|1,81091|1,81244|2) - These notes would go better off being doubles. As the piano increases in volume here and it also emphasizes it better than having it with only singles. Same thing with the other sections that have 1/2 piano notes (Ex. 01:30:580 (90580|2,90886|2,91040|1) - )

Finally, why not map the very ending notes? Ending with such a blank LN feels bland for an ending. Mapping the ending piano makes it a lot better than just ending a Jumpstream and throwing in a LN to ends things up while listening to the ending piano, but not playing it.

Hello tofu, coming

|1|2|3|4|




That's all I think, nice song and good luck~

R e m u r i n g wrote:

Hi tofunyan >w<

1|2|3|4

Hyper

00:20:019 - I think recommend that you use LN here

00:50:478 (50478|3) - move to 2col
00:50:631 (50631|1,50784|2) - 00:50:631 (50631|1) - move to 3col
00:50:784 (50784|2) - move to 4col
00:51:397 (51397|0) - move to 3col
00:51:550 (51550|2) - move to 2col
00:51:703 (51703|1) - move to 1col
this pattern is like this

Above all fixed
01:52:468 - ~01:58:973 - I think mapping here is recommended xd
Will try to ask for help to figure out the right timing point cuz at the end i am unable to figure it out actually qwq

Another

00:20:402 (20402|1) - move this to 4col
00:20:325 - If you moved note add to 2col
00:20:631 - It is recommended to add one note
01:08:386 - add note
01:35:172 - ^ here i dont perceive any obvious crash sound so maybe not
01:40:070 - ^
01:44:968 - ^
01:49:866 - ^
Above all others are fixed
01:52:468 - ~01:58:973 - It is recommended to do the same with hyper xd
I will

so good map and good song xd

GL <3

Thanks for mods Rem owo

Kaito-kun wrote:

Welp, Imma stop annoying you on Discord to do an actual and formal mod I guess.

[General]
As I said on Discord, the difficulty gap between Normal and Hyper is too big (both Star Rating-wise and pattern-wise), and your idea of nerfing Hyper is not really a good one either, since as I've said, the diff gap between Hyper and Another would most likely end up being too big if you do so. So I highly suggest you to get another difficulty between Normal and Hard to fill the skill gap. Heck, I can even do so if you don't wanna do another difficulty for it.

All difficulties are OD and HP 8 ??? ???
Here are some values in case you didn't had an idea on what to put:
Normal: OD 7.5 and HP 7
Hyper: OD 8 and HP 8 (Only if you do add another difficulty, which as I said, is HIGHLY ADVISABLE. If for some reason, you don't add another diff between Normal-Hyper, make HP 7.5 instead)
Another: OD 8.5 and HP 8, because of the lack of LNs, it's advisable to have a slightly higher OD. But if you accept my suggestion below that changes a section into a more LN-oriented section, then OD 8 HP 8.5 would be more advisable.

OD HP Fixed, my fault

Also, CHRONO BREAKS is the genre of the song, so it shouldn't be as Artist, but on tags instead. Rest of the metadata looks fine.

really??? holy shit i didnt realize that

Finally, add these to tags: "Toshiyuki Kakuta Naoyuki Sato 4th KONAMI Arcade Championship". Those are the composers, and because the song was first shown on the 4th KONAMI Championship (Don't forget to remove CHRONO BREAKS from artist and add it as part of the tags too)

Fixed

[Another]
00:01:040 - Here at the very start, I feel it should be better to emphasize the piano every 1/1 with a double, instead of leaving them as singles. Since each 1/1 piano note is a high-pitched note, while the 1/2 piano notes are lower-pitched notes. (In other words, something like this is my idea: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8714396. Ofc, talking about density here, not about note placement.) Oh yeah, and if you do accept my suggestion, I suggest you leave the 1/4 streams in this section as they are, whithout doubles.

Valid Point, I was considering this a few months ago as well. Anyway changed

00:15:733 - This section feels weird overall. I don't really know what I'm following here with the single notes. Yes, there is a 1/2 sounds there, but it's so underwhelming I only heard it when I entered editor and had a lower playback. And if you are following the drum-ish sounds (sorry, I'm bad with instrument/sound naming), then there are missing notes, for example here 00:16:269 - and here 00:16:422 -. So I highly suggest you check this section up.

I was intended to only map background synth piano, but yep, the drums seem more fascinating to me. I added notes

00:20:631 - Honestly, I would've preffered this section to be LN-oriented rather than focusing so much on the drums and the piano. Why? Because this section give a lot more emphasis to the techno-ish sounds (told ya I sucked at naming shit XD) and the drums, so focusing your mapping on it would feel a lot more connected to the map, rather than ignoring such a relevant sound like the techno-ish sounds and only focusing on the other relevant sound, being the drums, and the piano with is underwhelmed by the other 2, at least in this section.

Sorry I would prefer a not LN-oriented style here, the drums are more striking for me.

If you accepted my suggestion and decided to give that section a remap, then ignore this box. But if you rejected my suggestion of changing the style of that section, then open it, since the mod for the current section is there:

By opening this box, it means you rejected my previous suggestion

00:20:631 (20631|3,20631|0) - Why is this a double when there is a crash sound here, and you had just mapped crashes with triples right before this. Ex. 00:20:019 (20019|3,20019|2,20019|0) - , 00:19:713 (19713|0,19713|1,19713|3) - , 00:19:407 (19407|3,19407|1,19407|0) -. Also, taking note that the ones before where only crash sound, and here 00:20:631 (20631|3,20631|0) -, there's crash+drum, so the more reason to have this as a double if you as me.

Exactly. Fixed

00:20:172 (20172|2,20325|0) - Why ignore the drum sounds here when you map them later on even while having a 1/4 piano stream? Ex. 00:25:070 - and 00:27:366 -. My suggestion would be to make this one a double 00:20:172 - and if you consider the section too heavy, you can also have this 00:20:325 - as a double instead too (since the problem here is that the drum is completely ignore when it's feels so relevant when playing/hearing it in this section)

I remade this with a triple and a double added. It will be more consistent with music then

00:29:662 (29662|1) - I got the feeling you missed a triple here. It's the same sound as 00:29:509 (29509|0,29509|2,29509|3) -, so I see no reason to have the first kick (? as a triple and then the 2nd one as a single note.

Fixed

On the kiai, I don't know why you chose not to map the kick (? as a triple. The section before it had kicks as triples (Ex. 00:36:856 (36856|3,36856|1,36856|0) -) and it was less intense music-wise. So why on the section with the highest intensity on the whole song, you chose to simply go with lowering the kick's intensity pattern-wise?

That's because I believe triple notes will definitely limit the variation in patterns. In the prekiai part, the 1/4 streams are not so many, so i can still make sure that most of them are varied and fit into the music. But within this part, all 1/4 stream, I cannot make all kicks tripled cuz I will be doing a few same patterns circling around this part. It will be boring and I can not apply any concepts about pitch too here. So I would prefer make both double here.


01:20:784 (80784|1,81091|1,81244|2) - These notes would go better off being doubles. As the piano increases in volume here and it also emphasizes it better than having it with only singles. Same thing with the other sections that have 1/2 piano notes (Ex. 01:30:580 (90580|2,90886|2,91040|1) - )

As you can see, this part is still within kiai, and it will be inconsistent if I suddenly map all these piano notes that are supposed to have the same volume as the before 1/4 streams to be double. Considering the quality of these instruments, they should remain single, which can also give players a rest in the middle of this kind of staircase pattern of 1/4 piano sounds ouo

Finally, why not map the very ending notes? Ending with such a blank LN feels bland for an ending. Mapping the ending piano makes it a lot better than just ending a Jumpstream and throwing in a LN to ends things up while listening to the ending piano, but not playing it.

I was lazy. Will fix them after confirming the timing points with some pros

Thanks for mods. It is nice!

_Stan wrote:

Hello tofu, coming

|1|2|3|4|

Normal

1. 01:02:876 (62876|2) - I suggest move this LN to col [4], cuz in order to make a misalignment with 01:01:040 (61040|2) - since the different music tune
2. 01:03:488 (63488|3) - If you do what I said before, then move this note to col [2], all left hand-hit will emphasize hitfeel of drum fixed in a different way by rearranging the whole part
   
3. 01:43:437 (103437|1) - move to col [1], I think make a misalignment with 01:42:978 (102978|1) - will more easier and nice to hit matched with music
4. 01:43:591 - add a note at col [4], you can hear a cymbal here and you did after here 01:44:968 -
5. 01:44:509 - add a note, same like the third

Others all fixed

Hyper

1. 00:03:182 (3182|2,3335|1) - make these two at col [4] [3], like this part you did 00:07:774 - to 00:08:386 -
2. 00:33:182 (33182|1,33182|2) - I suggest move these two notes to col [34], just you did after 00:38:080 - , in hyper, I mean, this part it's really hard for them or easier to break 00:33:029 (33029|1,33106|0,33182|1) - , when you moved will faced a double-hit but I think it's ok and fit the fasted rhythm
   For me, the double-hit seems harder than the current pattern, and if i move both, i will be breaking the pattern of 43212 piano sounds that i followed according to the pitch. So I would keep
3. 00:43:973 (43973|1) - delete this, all stairs you make all about piano sounds, do I think it's ghost note
4. 00:49:101 (49101|0,49177|1) - and 00:49:407 (49407|0,49483|1) - it's 1/3 not 1/4, check it again, I suggest
   
   pic

   
5. 01:02:187 (62187|3) - / 01:02:494 (62494|3) - / 01:03:412 (63412|2) - / 01:04:636 (64636|1) - / 01:04:943 (64943|1) - / 01:07:085 (67085|2) - / 01:07:392 (67392|2) - / 01:08:080 (68080|2,68157|1,68310|2) - they should be 1/3 right?

Others all fixed

Another

1. 00:20:172 - and 00:20:325 - can add a note, cuz it's your hardest diff so I think you can catch the beats all. Suggest.
   
   pic

   
2. 00:39:458 - add a note at col [4], miss a beat I think
3. 01:38:233 - / 01:38:693 - / 01:39:152 - / 01:39:611 - / 01:40:070 - you should add a note here to make 3 with cymbal you lost just like you did before 01:37:774 (97774|3,97774|0,97774|2) -
4. 01:43:591 - / 01:44:509 - / 01:44:968 - same reason
5. 01:47:570 - to 01:49:866 - ^

All Fixed

That's all I think, nice song and good luck~

Thanks for mods!

honestly couldn't find anything, omg

[Another]
01:00:937 (60937|2) - 01:03:386 (63386|1) - could add some note
00:21:091 (21091|1,21244|3) - maybe jack this to fit with the synth pr?

even the spread between each diff is.. perfectly as big one to the other..

[Hyper]
00:30:274 (30274|2) - might want to remove to add some spacing gimmick

00:50:019 (50019|3,50172|1) - 00:50:478 (50478|0,50631|2) - 00:50:937 (50937|1,51091|2) - 00:51:397 (51397|3,51550|1) - etc, i'd make 2 mini jack around this part

00:58:208 (58208|2,58437|1,58514|2) - 1/3

01:03:488 (63488|0) - i'd make more 1/3 stream in this part, its slow enough and won't make an overkill gap between normal and hyper
01:51:244 (111244|0) - same, 1/4 single note stream would looks great

[NM]
00:58:208 (58208|3,58437|2) - 1/3

from queue 1234
gud luk for renk

Arzenvald wrote:

honestly couldn't find anything, omg

[Another]
01:00:937 (60937|2) - 01:03:386 (63386|1) - could add some note fixed

00:21:091 (21091|1,21244|3) - maybe jack this to fit with the synth pr? i would pay more attention to the PR in the synth piano part so maybe just sacrifice these two


even the spread between each diff is.. perfectly as big one to the other.. thanks =w=


[Hyper]
00:30:274 (30274|2) - might want to remove to add some spacing gimmick but actually there is a melodic sound right?


00:50:019 (50019|3,50172|1) - 00:50:478 (50478|0,50631|2) - 00:50:937 (50937|1,51091|2) - 00:51:397 (51397|3,51550|1) - etc, i'd make 2 mini jack around this part but actually pitches are different

00:58:208 (58208|2,58437|1,58514|2) - 1/3 fixed


01:03:488 (63488|0) - i'd make more 1/3 stream in this part, its slow enough and won't make an overkill gap between normal and hyper added

01:51:244 (111244|0) - same, 1/4 single note stream would looks great yep added


[NM]
00:58:208 (58208|3,58437|2) - 1/3 fixed

Thanks for mods!

riunosk wrote:

from queue 1234

normal

00:57:825 - add a note here to continue your pattern which is 00:58:437 (58437|2) - but here no snare

01:38:233 (98233|2,98233|3) - check your hitsounds, not consistent with 01:37:774 (97774|0,97774|2) -
01:38:693 (98693|1,98693|3) - ^
01:39:152 (99152|1,99152|0) - ^
01:39:611 (99611|2,99611|0) - ^
01:40:070 (100070|2,100070|3) - ^ All HS fixed
Great chart but look out for hitsound errors

hyper hyper

00:27:366 - according to the pitch, this should be ascending then descending if you know what i mean Fixed

00:39:356 (39356|1,39407|2,39662|1,39713|2) - using a different snapping when the others are 1/4 plays out pretty weirdly though it is the right snap, for simplicity i reduced them to 1/4

00:40:529 - what happened to mapping the snares?
00:41:142 - ^
00:41:754 - ^
00:42:366 - ^
00:42:978 - ^
00:43:591 - ^
00:44:203 - ^ // applies for the rest of the section
00:49:152 (49152|2,49203|1,49458|1,49509|2) - same as before
For all above, I ignore the snare because this part is full of 1/4 streams, if i catch all snares, the star rating will be rising immediately and will bring a really much harder part for the players. However, the current pattern is still challenging because continuous 1/4 streams can already consume a lot about stamina. So I guess for hyper, this kind of pattern is enough. The kiai part is the same idea like this. I hope you can grasp my idea
01:09:611 (69611|1) - not sure why would you use this hitsound
01:10:835 (70835|0) - ^
01:12:060 (72060|1) - ^ then i better delete
01:13:284 - snare charting? reason above

01:38:233 - refer to normal diff suggestion fixed

HP is too low, increase to 8 7.5 is really enough for this diff because of the 1/4 streams.

Not sure why you would map a certain sound then completely ignore it later on

and another one

00:20:019 (20019|0,20172|0,20325|0,20478|0,20631|0) - anchor
00:20:019 (20019|3,20019|0,20172|3,20172|0,20325|0,20325|3) - generally try to avoid using this sort of stream as its pretty hard to pull off
00:25:070 (25070|3,25223|3,25376|3,25529|3) - anchor
00:39:305 (39305|0,39458|0,39611|0,39764|0,39917|0) - ^
00:39:356 (39356|2,39407|1,39662|1,39713|2) - refer to suggestion to previous diffs
00:39:764 (39764|3,39917|3,40070|3,40223|3) - anchor
00:40:988 (40988|3,41142|3,41295|3,41448|3) - ^
00:42:213 (42213|3,42366|3,42519|3,42672|3,42825|3,42978|3) - ^
00:44:662 (44662|0,44815|0,44968|0,45121|0) - ^
00:45:886 (45886|0,46040|0,46193|0,46346|0) - ^
00:47:111 (47111|0,47264|0,47417|0,47570|0) - ^
00:48:488 (48488|3,48642|3,48795|3,48948|3,49101|3,49254|3) - ^
00:49:101 (49101|0,49254|0,49407|0,49560|0) - ^
00:49:152 (49152|2,49203|1,49458|1,49509|2) - refer to previous diffs
01:31:193 (91193|3,91244|2,91295|1,91346|0) - this is pretty inaudible fixed

01:37:468 (97468|2,97621|2,97774|2,97927|2,98080|2,98233|2,98386|2) - anchor
01:44:203 (104203|1,104356|1,104509|1,104662|1,104815|1,104968|1) - ^
01:47:264 (107264|2,107417|2,107570|2,107723|2,107876|2,108029|2,108182|2) - ^ For all anchor that is larger or equal than 5 notes i fixed all of them
Unusually anchory for some reason

gud luk for renk

Thanks for mods!

Hi Tofu!
gl

MrDorian wrote:

Hi Tofu!

General

Check aimod
Here I'm nitpicky, but you could cut out silence at the end of keysound files because some of them has a bit of it

Normal

I'll suggest what to change to have better spread between diffs
00:25:223 - you could add note here
00:27:366 - you could add 1/1 ln here and 00:27:672 (27672|1) - change this to 1/1 ln
00:29:662 (29662|1) - add note here, the same sound as 00:29:509 (29509|3) -
00:32:876 (32876|2) - change this to 1/1 ln and add 00:33:335 - 1/1 ln here and 00:33:795 (33795|0) - tldr just add lns in places where you can hear piano or whatever it is
00:34:713 - as in 00:27
apply the same things later in this part, I'm too lazy to note everything :3

00:50:937 (50937|3) - missing note I guess (also 00:53:386 (53386|0) - 00:55:835 (55835|1) -
01:26:448 (86448|2,86754|2,87060|2) - this stack is meh
01:28:897 (88897|2,89203|2,89509|2) - this as well

flow is sometimes too onesided, you should vary it more
examples: 01:15:886 (75886|1,76040|0,76193|2,76346|1,76499|3,76652|2,76805|1,76958|0,76958|3,77111|2,77264|1,77417|0,77570|3,77723|2,77876|1) - 01:25:835 (85835|1,85988|2,86142|0,86295|1,86448|2,86601|3,86754|0,86754|2,86907|1,87060|2,87213|3,87366|1,87519|2) - 01:33:182 (93182|2,93335|0,93642|3,93795|1,94101|2,94254|0,94560|3,94713|1) - etc etc

Hyoer

00:22:468 (22468|3) - delete this I think, no sound you followed
00:24:917 (24917|1) - 00:26:142 (26142|1) -
00:34:483 (34483|1,34560|2) - you could ctrl+h this, there's too much pressure on left hand
00:34:943 (34943|0,35019|1,35172|0,35249|1) - ctrl+j this and 00:35:325 (35325|0) - move to 2 to make it more pitch correct and because of this 00:34:407 (34407|0,34483|1,34560|2,34713|0,34790|1,34866|2,34943|0,35019|1,35096|2,35172|0,35249|1) -
00:36:091 (36091|2) - move to 4 pls, stack on 3 hurts me
00:43:591 (43591|1,43744|1,43897|1) - this hurts my soul, please change this
00:52:009 (52009|1,52315|1,52621|1,52927|1,53233|1) - this anchor also hurts
01:15:810 (75810|2,75963|2,76116|2) - you can avoid it easily
you could vary kiai more tbh
01:25:606 (85606|1,85759|1,85912|1) - another stack

Another

00:31:805 (31805|1,31958|2,32111|2) - ctrl+h to vary the part and get rid of 00:31:040 (31040|0,31193|1,31346|0,31499|1,31652|0,31805|1,31958|0) -
00:36:703 (36703|1,36856|1,37009|1) - eww, you could avoid this by moving 00:37:009 (37009|1) - to 1
00:37:315 (37315|1,37468|1,37621|1,37774|1) - ewww x2, please change this
00:39:841 (39841|1,39917|0,39994|1) - ctrl+h this to make it flow better
00:47:111 (47111|0,47264|0,47417|0,47570|0) - delet this
00:49:203 (49203|1,49254|3) - ctrl+h this and 00:49:636 (49636|1,49713|0) - ctrl+j this
00:58:386 (58386|2,58488|1) - these should be doubles
01:37:468 (97468|1,97621|1,97774|1,97927|1) - delet this x2
01:44:203 (104203|1,104356|1,104509|1,104662|1,104815|1,104968|1) - p l s c h a n g e t h i s
01:47:264 (107264|1,107417|1,107570|1,107723|1) - delet this x3
01:47:570 - 01:49:866 - vary this part more please, pitch is getting higher so the patterns could change

look for some one sided flow and try to vary it

gl

Nearly All fixed and anchors are all prevented to the largest extent. Too lazy to reply each Thanks for mods

Hello Tofu


Nekomata God!!!! , good luck with map.

[Shana Lesus] wrote:

Hello Tofu

Another

00:05:631 - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8865881 i hear this piano exactly like that
00:09:611 - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8865884 listen to the sound of piano mine for here is right imo
00:19:560 - 00:19:866 - you can add here notes, i hear sounds
00:20:019 - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8865898 what you think about this ? i dont wanna create that 4 note stack
00:29:662 - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8865909 burst here 00:29:700 - , 00:30:006 - here i no listen burst it's the piano sound not burst
00:32:264 (32264|3) - move to 2
00:33:871 - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8865921 make this
00:34:254 (34254|2,34330|1,34407|2,34407|0,34407|3,34483|1,34560|2) - ctrl + h, 00:34:560 (34560|1,34713|1) - these notes have same sound, you can see this if you take this advice I dont think so, mine seems to be right, i consider the flow of the pitch, not the single notes of them. If reversed the pattern would be not flowing well as before

00:38:922 - http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8865935 same
00:43:591 - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8865941
00:44:356 (44356|2,44509|1) - these notes have same sound as before same

01:20:631 - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8865958
01:35:631 - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8865966
01:36:703 - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8865974
01:40:682 - 01:41:295 - add note
01:45:427 - http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8865981
01:46:346 - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8865986
01:50:249 - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8865993

Good kiai part, i like

Nekomata God!!!! , good luck with map.

Others all fixed. Thanks for mods!

NekomataL.E.D.Master+ - Chrono Diver -PENDULUMs-

1|2|3|4

Just came here for M4M.

General

1. OK!

Normal

1. 00:40:223 - 00:41:448 - This part seems doesn't follow the PR properly.

Hyper

1. 00:12:213 (12213|2,12366|1,12519|0) - This should be same as how 00:10:988 (10988|1,11142|2,11295|3) - patterned. According to PR here.
2. 00:50:019 - 00:57:366 - Add some jacks sound really nice here.
3. 01:04:713 - 01:05:937 - The 1/3 piano sound continue, but you ignored them.
4. 01:05:937 - 01:06:550 - How about some jacks?
5. 01:38:693 - Add one note here, for cymbal.

Another

1. 00:05:861 (5861|2,5937|3) - Those notes should arrange like what you did before: 00:05:325 (5325|3,5402|2,5478|1,5555|0) -
2. 01:04:713 (64713|1,64713|2) - Remove? There doesnt have snare.
3. The layer in the last part just kind of mess for me actually... but fine for me haha.

I don't think there's any big problems in this map, good luck then!

-[Apple]- wrote:

NekomataL.E.D.Master+ - Chrono Diver -PENDULUMs-

1|2|3|4

Just came here for M4M.

General

1. OK!

Normal

1. 00:40:223 - 00:41:448 - This part seems doesn't follow the PR properly. I think mine is ok, representing the ascending trend of pitch

Hyper

1. 00:12:213 (12213|2,12366|1,12519|0) - This should be same as how 00:10:988 (10988|1,11142|2,11295|3) - patterned. According to PR here. fixed
2. 00:50:019 - 00:57:366 - Add some jacks sound really nice here. give players a rest after the 1/4 streams so keep
3. 01:04:713 - 01:05:937 - The 1/3 piano sound continue, but you ignored them. they are not as obvious as those 1/3 i placed note before
4. 01:05:937 - 01:06:550 - How about some jacks? smooth pattern might work better for this part
5. 01:38:693 - Add one note here, for cymbal. Fixed for all with cymbal

Another

1. 00:05:861 (5861|2,5937|3) - Those notes should arrange like what you did before: 00:05:325 (5325|3,5402|2,5478|1,5555|0) - fixed
2. 01:04:713 (64713|1,64713|2) - Remove? There doesnt have snare. there is
3. The layer in the last part just kind of mess for me actually... but fine for me haha. in the end things become that first streams, then double notes representing major 1/2 melody layers, then streams, then 1/2 double notes. That's it. I feel 1/2 notes work better for this part as a balance of density at last imo, giving players some challenge in this culmination part in the top diff lol

I don't think there's any big problems in this map, good luck then!

Thanks for mods. Will mod yours soon

Hi! M4M request from your thread.

Mod for Mod Request

NekomataL.E.D.Master+ - Chrono Diver -PENDULUMs-

[General]

1. BPM: OK
2. Offset: OK
3. AiMod: OK
4. Audio: OK
5. Background: OK
6. Preview Point: OK

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[Normal]

1. 00:57:774 - i guess add one note here. Just like you did here 00:58:386 -
2. 01:22:162 (82162|0,82468|2,82774|1) - it seems that the rhythm for this note is not right. Suggestion to make this one: 01:22:162 - 01:22:315 - 01:22:621 - 01:22:774 - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8963515
3. 01:31:652 - 01:32:876 - add one note to the red lines (1/4 beats) to make it more emphasize the piano sound.

[Hyper]

1. 01:14:203 (74203|0,74279|1,74356|2,74432|3,74509|1,74509|0) - it seems the hand balance will break when it comes here. Try to make this one, just 01:14:356 (74356|2,74432|3) - Ctrl+G to make it more balance and also check the others have same and have different variation like this one 01:17:876 (77876|3,77953|2,78029|1,78106|0,78182|2,78182|3) -
2. 01:38:540 - add one note here. Actually you do double notes here 01:38:080 - 01:38:999 - 01:39:458 - 01:39:917 -
3. 01:43:437 - add this one too.. similar to 01:44:356 - 01:44:815 -
4. 01:48:335 - add this one too...

[Another]

1. 00:10:835 (10835|0,11142|0,11448|0,11754|0,12060|0) - it is intentional? If not please change it.
2. 00:14:815 (14815|3,15121|3,15427|3,15733|3,16040|3) - this one too if it's not intentional.
3. 00:38:999 - 00:50:019 - I don't get what's your main point for this section, if possible just focus on 1 sound (piano sound). 00:48:795 (48795|3,48795|0,48871|2,48948|1,48948|3,48948|0,49024|2,49101|1,49101|0,49152|2,49203|1,49254|3,49254|0) - i know you follow the 2 sounds here but if possible make it just one sound only to make it more consistent.
4. 01:22:621 (82621|3,82621|0,82672|2,82723|1,82774|3,82774|0,82825|2,82876|1,82927|3,82978|2,83029|1) - this one seems not consistent. Just follow only 1 sound to make it more consistent.

I guess the Another diff is not ready for rank because of unconsistent notes. I can't recognize it at all because it takes more time to mod it. And don't forget to mod my map! Good luck

- Aries - wrote:

Hi! M4M request from your thread.

Mod for Mod Request

NekomataL.E.D.Master+ - Chrono Diver -PENDULUMs-

[General]

1. BPM: OK
2. Offset: OK
3. AiMod: OK
4. Audio: OK
5. Background: OK
6. Preview Point: OK

4k PATTERN - | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 |

[Normal]

1. 00:57:774 - i guess add one note here. Just like you did here 00:58:386 - there is no drum
   
2. 01:22:162 (82162|0,82468|2,82774|1) - it seems that the rhythm for this note is not right. Suggestion to make this one: 01:22:162 - 01:22:315 - 01:22:621 - 01:22:774 - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8963515 fixed
   
3. 01:31:652 - 01:32:876 - add one note to the red lines (1/4 beats) to make it more emphasize the piano sound. fixed in your previous way

[Hyper]

1. 01:14:203 (74203|0,74279|1,74356|2,74432|3,74509|1,74509|0) - it seems the hand balance will break when it comes here. Try to make this one, just 01:14:356 (74356|2,74432|3) - Ctrl+G to make it more balance and also check the others have same and have different variation like this one 01:17:876 (77876|3,77953|2,78029|1,78106|0,78182|2,78182|3) - I follow pitch with my current pattern
2. 01:38:540 - add one note here. Actually you do double notes here 01:38:080 - 01:38:999 - 01:39:458 - 01:39:917 -
3. 01:43:437 - add this one too.. similar to 01:44:356 - 01:44:815 -
4. 01:48:335 - add this one too... other 3 fixed

[Another]

1. 00:10:835 (10835|0,11142|0,11448|0,11754|0,12060|0) - it is intentional? If not please change it. fixed
   
2. 00:14:815 (14815|3,15121|3,15427|3,15733|3,16040|3) - this one too if it's not intentional. fixed
   
3. 00:38:999 - 00:50:019 - I don't get what's your main point for this section, if possible just focus on 1 sound (piano sound). 00:48:795 (48795|3,48795|0,48871|2,48948|1,48948|3,48948|0,49024|2,49101|1,49101|0,49152|2,49203|1,49254|3,49254|0) - i know you follow the 2 sounds here but if possible make it just one sound only to make it more consistent. I dont really get what you think, but i indeed made one mistake and delete the note
   
4. 01:22:621 (82621|3,82621|0,82672|2,82723|1,82774|3,82774|0,82825|2,82876|1,82927|3,82978|2,83029|1) - this one seems not consistent. Just follow only 1 sound to make it more consistent. I think I am always following the piano, isn it?

I guess the Another diff is not ready for rank because of unconsistent notes. I can't recognize it at all because it takes more time to mod it. And don't forget to mod my map! Good luck

Thanks for your mods!

Totally not over a month late or anything... >_>

[General]
Hitsound prioritisation: As I was checking through for unused hs and whatnot, I noticed there were a couple of keysounds (namely G6) in the storyboard, with F and the Bell thing in play at the same time. My thought is that since you're mainly following the piano here, it would make more sense to put the piano keysound in play and storyboard the bell instead.

The gap between Normal and Hyper feels a little large... may need to nerf Hyper slightly?

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So, yeah. That's about it. Apologies for the long delay cus life hates me.
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Asherz007 wrote:

Totally not over a month late or anything... >_>

[General]
Hitsound prioritisation: As I was checking through for unused hs and whatnot, I noticed there were a couple of keysounds (namely G6) in the storyboard, with F and the Bell thing in play at the same time. My thought is that since you're mainly following the piano here, it would make more sense to put the piano keysound in play and storyboard the bell instead. nice idea. rearranged hitsound diffs and applied for all diffs

The gap between Normal and Hyper feels a little large... may need to nerf Hyper slightly?

1|2|3|4

Normal

Not much to say here I reckon.

[*]00:20:019 (20019|0) - Not sure why this is one LN, rather than the two like you were doing earlier.
[*]00:20:631 (20631|3) - Sure you're not wanting a double here for the crash?
[*]00:53:386 (53386|0) - think the layering went a little wrong here. Progresses ok to Hyper but doesn't make much sense when comparing it to Another. Instead I changed the another here
[*]00:57:774 - Dunno whether you'd want to put a note here just to reinforce the 1/3 transition, since it is a fairly drastic change.
[*]01:43:437 (103437|0) - missing hs?
[/list]

Hyper

Feel like there's been a fair bit of copypasta in the kiai, given that there's a hell of a lot of 01:13:591 rearranged for most of them(73591|0,73667|1,73744|3,73820|2,73897|0,73973|1,74050|3,74126|2) about.

The other smaller gripe is that quite a fair amount of this diff looks like it's been taken from Another, minus a few notes.

1. 00:03:642 (3642|2,3795|1,3948|2,4101|0) - c'mon man anchor properly and ctrl+h this
2. 00:08:540 (8540|1,8693|2,8846|1,8999|3) - ^
3. 00:39:458 (39458|2) - only a single?
4. 00:41:142 - ...wut
5. 00:50:937 (50937|1) - see Normal
6. kiai - I mean there's nothing structurally wrong with it, just perhaps a little too close to Another and too far from Normal. That aside, reckon it needs a tiny bit more variation.

Another

Hoo boy. Starts out fine, and then gets super awkward, perhaps a little unnecessarily. This I believe is primarily down to being too dependent on two columns when everything suddenly gets extremely dense, which makes for extremely uncomfortable gameplay. (This is mainly as a result of having so many triples about and not many columns which don't exactly make for the nicest mapping possibilities.)

By the way, if those oh minitrills are staying in the piano rolls after I'm done... >_>

By decree of tl;dr, I reckon you might need to grab a couple more mods for this diff because I just feel it's not quite there yet.

1. 00:34:636 - p sure you'll want a note here for the thing you're following
2. 00:34:943 (34943|1,35019|2,35096|1,35172|2,35249|1,35325|2) - perhaps a small concern about this th trill after the oh one. Could do something like this? try another slightly different ways
3. 00:39:611 (39611|1,39662|0,39713|1) - pls no
4. 00:49:101 (49101|1,49101|0,49152|2,49203|1,49254|0,49254|3) - This movement looks a little weird, but at least it's two-handed...
5. 00:49:407 (49407|1,49458|0,49509|1) - pls no
6. kiai - it feels like you tried for some PR and it kinda went not so well. Crazy amount of OH trills about as a result of the patterning.
7. 01:22:621 - this annoys me cus strain on RH + it's oddly hard to read
8. 01:33:029 (93029|1,93106|0,93182|1,93182|3,93259|2,93335|3) - (these just hurt lol) Not sure what I'd suggest, but as well as poor playability, it does look at a little copypasta ._.
9. 01:37:621 (97621|1,97698|2,97774|1,97851|2,97927|1,98080|2,98157|1,98233|2,98310|1,98386|2) - (this also hurts xD) ^

pls no hate uwu

So, yeah. That's about it. Apologies for the long delay cus life hates me.
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for others without replies I all applied your mods. for Another, 2nd kiai I nearly remapped them.
Thanks for mods! I reduced a lot of pressure of patterns in another and it is much better looking now imo.

About time...


I told myself I wouldn't make puns ._.

Asherz007 wrote:

About time...

irc where the Hyper actually got nerfed

2017-11-06 12:46 dat spread *shivers*
2017-11-06 12:47 Tofu1222: nerfed hyper in the part you pointed out and it'
2017-11-06 12:47 Tofu1222: it's 3.19* now
2017-11-06 12:47 Asherz007: oh lol
2017-11-06 12:48 Asherz007: idk whether the triples in the kiai are overkill for hyper
2017-11-06 12:48 Asherz007: or just triples in general lul
2017-11-06 12:49 Tofu1222: nearly no triples in hyper kiai
2017-11-06 12:50 Asherz007: 01:32:876 - like here for example rather than using triples you could do gluts (sm term lol) which would have that same minijack effect
2017-11-06 12:51 Tofu1222: gluts? can you show me an example lul?
2017-11-06 12:51 Asherz007: I blame DD for not explaining
2017-11-06 12:51 Asherz007: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9484205
2017-11-06 12:52 Asherz007: would be a different way to emphasise the crashes
2017-11-06 12:53 Tofu1222: so you mean stack one note from the double for emphasis of crash sounds, right?
2017-11-06 12:53 Asherz007: since there's a few triples about (not just in kiai) which might be over kill for this diff, so I was just thinking of different ways to represent the finish
2017-11-06 12:53 Asherz007: I mean there's a stack already because triple, but you don't need the triple for the stack, if you catch my drift.
2017-11-06 12:54 Tofu1222: ye[
2017-11-06 12:54 Tofu1222: yep
2017-11-06 12:55 Asherz007: just a thought
2017-11-06 12:55 Tofu1222: i agree this idea owo
2017-11-06 12:59 Tofu1222: all fixed owo and it's 3.18* lul
2017-11-06 13:00 Asherz007: lul
2017-11-06 13:00 Asherz007: anything else you can nerf while you're there hue
2017-11-06 13:00 Asherz007: probs ideal is about 3.1
2017-11-06 13:00 Tofu1222: anyway updated, you may wanna take a look then
2017-11-06 13:04 Asherz007: would what would happen if you took all triples out so there were only jumps everywhere :thinking:
2017-11-06 13:05 Tofu1222: hmmmmm
2017-11-06 13:06 Tofu1222: wouldn't it be confusing when mixing with other doubles that represent only W?
2017-11-06 13:07 Asherz007: 01:13:131 (73131|2,73208|1,73284|2,73284|0,73361|1,73437|2) - just worried about stuff like this in essentially what is a hard diff
2017-11-06 13:08 Tofu1222: yeah here may be ok to delete considering its difficulty
2017-11-06 13:09 Asherz007: then it's like, if some are doubles and some are triples then it would be inconsistent? :thonk:
2017-11-06 13:09 Tofu1222: then 01:23:080 - 01:32:876 - i made these into doubles too
2017-11-06 13:10 Tofu1222: so no triple in kiai
2017-11-06 13:10 Tofu1222: owo
2017-11-06 13:10 Asherz007: 01:37:774 - 
2017-11-06 13:10 Asherz007: ?
2017-11-06 13:10 Asherz007: 01:42:672 - hue
2017-11-06 13:10 Tofu1222: oh no forgot :v
2017-11-06 13:10 Asherz007: lol u lie :3
2017-11-06 13:11 Tofu1222: uwu
2017-11-06 13:11 Tofu1222: anyway, fixed all
2017-11-06 13:11 Tofu1222: tho the SR still keeps
2017-11-06 13:11 Tofu1222: the difficulty itself is more acceptable
2017-11-06 13:12 Asherz007: delet hands
2017-11-06 13:12 Asherz007: hue
2017-11-06 13:12 Asherz007: I mean if you wanted to test that update now and then experiment or something
2017-11-06 13:16 Tofu1222: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9484336 it's quite nice now, only one thing, do you think i should also delete triple before kiai?
2017-11-06 13:16 Tofu1222: 00:25:223 (25223|0,25223|2,25300|3,25376|2,25453|1,25529|3,25529|0,25529|2) - as sth. like here might be too hard?
2017-11-06 13:18 Asherz007: you can do.
2017-11-06 13:23 Tofu1222: done and updated
2017-11-06 13:24 Asherz007: definitely looks more like a hyper now lol
2017-11-06 13:25 Tofu1222: XD thanks for help
2017-11-06 13:25 Asherz007: aight time to actually mod specifically again lol
2017-11-06 13:26 Tofu1222: nice owob
2017-11-06 13:27 Asherz007: comparing layering to another is always fun lul
2017-11-06 13:27 Asherz007: 00:56:448 (56448|0,56448|1,56601|2,56754|3,56754|0) - ...wut
2017-11-06 13:27 Asherz007: 00:56:295 (56295|2) - oh includes this too lol
2017-11-06 13:28 Asherz007: ...wut
2017-11-06 13:29 Tofu1222: oh shit mapping jumps without hearing for sure blamemyself
2017-11-06 13:29 Tofu1222: ;w;
2017-11-06 13:29 Asherz007: the layering looks backwards for this bit compared to another
2017-11-06 13:32 Asherz007: 01:47:570 (107570|0,107570|3,107570|1) - I see a triple >_>
2017-11-06 13:33 Asherz007: btw did anything hitsound-y change while you were redoing all of that
2017-11-06 13:35 Tofu1222: i check for them when making changes so i don't think so
2017-11-06 13:35 Asherz007: oki
2017-11-06 13:37 Asherz007: getting a little worried about checking stuff cus super tired lol
2017-11-06 13:39 Tofu1222: oh really. then don't force yourself for check if you feel too tired =w=
2017-11-06 13:39 Tofu1222: or maybe do it slower
2017-11-06 13:39 Asherz007: we're nearly there I think lol
2017-11-06 13:40 Tofu1222: yeah i think so too XD i am just waiting for your answer in Another
2017-11-06 13:40 Asherz007: I keep cb rushing and getting like 88 lmao
2017-11-06 13:41 Asherz007: I know I could probably play it well if I tried but god is it hard when tired
2017-11-06 13:41 Tofu1222: yeah qwq
2017-11-06 13:41 Tofu1222: and indeed this diff trains stamina so probably it exhausts a lot when tired
2017-11-06 13:42 Asherz007: those 1/6 bursts tho >_>
2017-11-06 13:42 Tofu1222: i confess they are hard, but i put them in the easiest way to play qwq
2017-11-06 13:43 Asherz007: Yeah I know there's literally nothing else you can do about them
2017-11-06 13:43 Asherz007: 01:22:672 (82672|2,82723|1,82774|0,82825|2,82876|1,82927|0,82978|2,83029|1,83080|0) - especially this one lmao
2017-11-06 13:44 Tofu1222: yeah qwq
2017-11-06 13:44 Asherz007: tell ya what
2017-11-06 13:44 Asherz007: you play it
2017-11-06 13:44 Asherz007: lol
2017-11-06 13:45 Tofu1222: lemme update first
2017-11-06 13:45 Asherz007: oki
2017-11-06 13:45 Asherz007: Just need to check with a playthrough and I can't in my current condition lol
2017-11-06 13:48 Tofu1222: oh i shouldnt miss at last XD
2017-11-06 13:48 Asherz007: was almost expecting that drop on that 1/6 burst though lul
2017-11-06 13:48 Tofu1222: so basically the hardest part for me is the first 1/6 burst
2017-11-06 13:48 Tofu1222: yeah
2017-11-06 13:48 Tofu1222: other two are fine
2017-11-06 13:49 Asherz007: 00:39:458 (39458|0,39458|3,39534|2,39611|0) - basically this right
2017-11-06 13:50 Tofu1222: hmm, but when i delete00:39:305 (39305|1) -
2017-11-06 13:50 Tofu1222: i can fc it without effort
2017-11-06 13:50 Asherz007: I'm thinking it's just excessive strain on col 2
2017-11-06 13:51 Tofu1222: yep
2017-11-06 13:51 Asherz007: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9484521 all I can think of rn
2017-11-06 13:52 Asherz007: that seems to alleviate it a bit because of the roll direction I guess
2017-11-06 13:53 Tofu1222: i still think patterns like http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9484527, the roll direction might be better?
2017-11-06 13:53 Asherz007: delet , lul
2017-11-06 13:53 Tofu1222: since for 1/6 burst, dissected them won't be easier than simply giving them a stair
2017-11-06 13:54 Tofu1222: that's just my idea tho XD
2017-11-06 13:54 Asherz007: yeah might be a good idea to reduce to double because of the burst
2017-11-06 13:56 Asherz007: any other issues you wanna raise in the meantime?
2017-11-06 13:58 Asherz007: >_>
2017-11-06 14:16 Tofu1222: ok i am back now qwq
2017-11-06 14:16 Asherz007: lol
2017-11-06 14:16 Asherz007: was about to go bury my face in a pillow xD
2017-11-06 14:17 Tofu1222: go get some sleep when you finish this bub
2017-11-06 14:17 Tofu1222: XD
2017-11-06 14:17 Asherz007: Okay so anything else you wanna change/check etc
2017-11-06 14:17 Asherz007: p sure the hitsound are fine as long as you didn't screw it up changing stuff today
2017-11-06 14:21 Tofu1222: yeah
2017-11-06 14:21 Tofu1222: just played two lower diffs with DT and everything looks fine now owo
2017-11-06 14:21 Asherz007: so all good?
2017-11-06 14:22 Tofu1222: or u wanna spectate me playing another again?
2017-11-06 14:22 Asherz007: nah should be ok
2017-11-06 14:22 Tofu1222: yeah
2017-11-06 14:22 Tofu1222: then all good owo

I told myself I wouldn't make puns ._.

Thanks a lot <3

Updated BG and Romanised Artist.

tfw not probation BN anymore months after i finished probation

Litharrale wrote:

tfw not probation BN anymore months after i finished probation

Thanks a lot for help lol!

BEMANI Soun-

01:35:172 (95172|3) - this LN should end at 01:35:478 - but it doesn't: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9575999

Tofu1222 wrote:

01:35:172 (95172|3) - this LN should end at 01:35:478 - but it doesn't: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9575999

OMG noooooooo.

guess ill need a dq now

Disqualified upon mapper request.

Updated. Everything should be fine now.

Hi Tofu!
I have some concerns about Another diff, so I'm gonna list them here. Every suggestion here is to make the map less boring cus I think it is because of it is repetiveness.

Hope you can understand this or sth
GL

MrDorian wrote:

Hi Tofu!
I have some concerns about Another diff, so I'm gonna list them here. Every suggestion here is to make the map less boring cus I think it is because of it is repetiveness.

Another

1. 00:01:040 - 00:10:835 - I do not quite understand why do you change at the beginning (from 00:01:040 - to 00:05:325 -) you use pretty random-ish patterning which doesn't represent the pitch or something and has that weird anchor on 4th column starting from 00:02:876 (2876|3) - and then you suddenly (starting from 00:05:937 -) switch to some repetitive structure which reflects the song a bit better, but creates really weird anchor on 2nd column (00:06:091 (6091|1) - it starts here). I think that the structure is quite weird, it can be done better. You could try something like this https://puu.sh/ypguC/ec02903ebf.png https://puu.sh/ypgwR/57326969da.png or something, just try to respect the pitch a bit and make consistent structure
   
   Make in a different way but yeah it won't feel random any more
   
2. 00:30:019 (30019|1,30070|2,30121|1,30274|2) -it would be nice if you ctrl+h these to break the right-sided flow, it would be better for pitch as well
   
   OK, and fixed the further notes
   
3. 00:49:713 (49713|1,49713|3,49790|2,49866|1,49943|2,50019|0,50019|3,50019|1) - don't you think that this 2 3 trill is a bit unnecesary? Why not making it follow the pitch? You could just move 00:49:943 (49943|2) - to 1 and fix the hand later. It will be even more comfortable that this trill.
   
   Changed in a different way but still prevent the trill
   
4. 00:50:019 - 00:57:366 - I don't understand why you make 00:50:325 (50325|3,50478|3) - minijacks like these only on first and fourth column. Did you forget about the middle ones? They won't be uncomfortable or something and adding them will make the map less boring.
   
   I just don't like minijacks on 2 and 3, they are harder to play imo. Since this part is also just 1/2, not so fast, I guess it won't really influence the gameplay too much.
   
5. 00:58:591 - 01:08:386 - now this section. I think I understand the way you change the flow in this part every two big white lines, but it gets really boring. You can notice that starting from 01:03:488 - here sounds in the pitches start to get really somehow mixed, they are not following raising or lowering the pitch only. So you could do the same thing and mix the flow somehow.
   
   I got your idea. Rearranged.
   
6. 01:13:284 - Now I want to talk about kiai. I'm kind of dissapointed about it. You sometimes ignore pitch to just execute the structure which has some flaws in my opinion, for example 01:16:346 (76346|3,76422|2,76499|0,76499|1,76575|3,76652|1,76652|2,76728|0,76805|1) - this flow transition from right>left to left>right makes that little OH trill which is pain to play because it makes 01:16:499 (76499|1,76652|1,76805|1) - this weird uncomfortable anchor (and is the only 3-note anchor in the whole part).
   
   You could change this 01:17:570 (77570|2,77647|1,77723|3,77723|0,77800|1,77876|3,77876|2,77953|0,78029|1,78106|2,78182|0,78182|1,78182|3) - into https://puu.sh/yphNp/5a35895dd1.png or https://puu.sh/yphPh/40bae88658.png or something similiar, just respect the pitch
   Also nice copypasta of 01:13:284 - 01:20:631 - starting from here 01:23:080 (83080|2) -.
   
   Rearranged most. Applied your first screenshot, but I don't really want to make two parts so different cuz their melodies are the same. And since it is really in big parts, there won't be too many feelings about this being almost the same. I hope you can understand, and this is not an issue of boredom. It is some consistency issues for me.
   
   01:37:774 - 01:40:070 - this small section is just boring, you could make it comfortable and make it respect the pitch, like https://puu.sh/ypid3/ea43ce485c.png or something (I hope you can read what's here cus I can). Also remember to fix other part similiar to this later.
   
   Nice idea. Fixed.
   
   01:40:376 (100376|2,100682|2,100988|2,101295|2,101524|2) - smh, could change this to https://puu.sh/ypigA/2a97689b3c.png to prevent from having that anchor on 3
   
   Fixed
   

Hope you can understand this or sth
GL

Thanks for mods. It helps!

Tofu1222 wrote:

MrDorian wrote:

1. 00:50:019 - 00:57:366 - I don't understand why you make 00:50:325 (50325|3,50478|3) - minijacks like these only on first and fourth column. Did you forget about the middle ones? They won't be uncomfortable or something and adding them will make the map less boring.
   
   I just don't like minijacks on 2 and 3, they are harder to play imo. Since this part is also just 1/2, not so fast, I guess it won't really influence the gameplay too much.

I cannot really agree with this, jacks on second and third column aren't harder, so it isn't an excuse for not making jacks in these columns.. Also making jacks on first and fourth column only make this part really repetitive and it doesn't attract player's attetnion to the map. (it's a bit uncomfortable as well, because there's little focus on first fingers and really big on second fingers).

MrDorian wrote:

I cannot really agree with this, jacks on second and third column aren't harder, so it isn't an excuse for not making jacks in these columns.. Also making jacks on first and fourth column only make this part really repetitive and it doesn't attract player's attetnion to the map. (it's a bit uncomfortable as well, because there's little focus on first fingers and really big on second fingers).

Already settled the issue through irc. Sorry that I don't keep the log but yeah it is truly settled. Everything should be fine now.

rip irc

Quick confirmation on Discord, another couple of looks and plays through the Another diff and it looks good to me, so take 2 it is.

Lith please check through again thoroughly, 'kay?

if thsi gets DQ'd again, I'm gonna stick to only bubbling stuff

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