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Omoi - Chiisana Koi no Uta (Synth Rock Cover) [Osu|Taiko]

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val0108

Shortthu wrote:

I think we need some unicode title xd
Probably finished
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val0108
400 favorite thank you!!
Shunao

val0108 wrote:

400 favorite thank you!!
403 with me now!!

and page 10 too
Mithia
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OnosakiHito

Chromoxx wrote:

Oni's Ono

HP5 since the song is kinda long and there are many notes? Fine with me.
00:16:414 - i know there are faint drum sounds here, but this kinda ruins the impact of 00:18:460 - , if you at least used some sort of changes in hitsound volume it would have somewhat more impact, otherwise i'd strongly suggest making the emphasis on those faint drum sounds a bit more subtle Changed volume of hitsounds.
00:28:960 (1,2,1,2,1) - finishers like these are pretty random throughout the map, no crashes on the drum sounds and not even a drum sound at 00:29:369 - I improvised here and used the finishers consistent with rising the amount of them at the end of one section for impact. However, I misplaced them by one 4/1 so it felt very weird. Fixed that instead and move them one 4/1 forward. Added from this section onward 00:42:603 - some finishers as well.
00:38:232 - random density spike that is more intense than the kiais If anything, I would wait for more opinions. Reason for the density is because of the stretched vocals which is why I used longer and more 1/4 to emphasize this. It indeed influences the kiai a bit, but I think it has more to do with how the chorus naturally is emphasized (or maybe the way I map, which bases much on vocals).
00:48:051 (1) - the second slider here feels kinda anticlimactic, i'd suggest using either a spinner or a stream here, to go for a more building up effect from the last slider Yeah I agree. Added a spinner instead.
02:20:351 - you increased the density in the first half of the kiai but not really here, i'd suggest at least adding some more notes from here on to make the progressive density more consistent Possible. But for now I will leave it. These parts do not differ much in general to each other beside some additional notes.
03:11:133 - this gets less dense again than the second kiai? if you're going for progressive density i'd suggest sticking with it The reason is because the BPM becomes faster but also because the patterns are a bit harder than previous one, so I tried to keep an eye on that. Density is important but also in connection with the chosen patterns.

Ono's Muzukashii

HP6 same reason as oni? Fine with me.
00:14:778 (5) - random break of consistency here? That's the rise of notes effect (it's not the actual musical term) when you add additional sounds to a identical part for a different, yet similar, rhythmical sensation. It's something -some- humans expect to appear when listening to a song. Varies from person to person.
00:18:460 - use of multicolor patterns isn't reccomended in general in muzu, specially not for high bpm like this and when the oni has only simple patterns too That's true, however, there should be enough space between the previous and onward coming patterns to give Muzukashi players a rest.
Also, the patterns in Oni are harder.

00:20:778 - this d k d k d rhythm goes on for too long imo and becomes highly repetitive I agree. Didn't know what to do either tbh. Changed it something else.
00:38:232 - again random density spike like in the oni Same as in the Oni.
- i also feel like a lot of the patterns are too long for this kind of bpm in genera

the stuff on taiko was just a few basic things i noticed, not a full mod since i'm focusing on standard and i do not feel the taiko diffs are ready for a full check as of yet.

i hope this was helpful! :D
Thanks for your mod!
Download: http://puu.sh/ykkbm/9465647fb2.zip
Topic Starter
val0108

OnosakiHito wrote:

Chromoxx wrote:

Oni's Ono

HP5 since the song is kinda long and there are many notes? Fine with me.
00:16:414 - i know there are faint drum sounds here, but this kinda ruins the impact of 00:18:460 - , if you at least used some sort of changes in hitsound volume it would have somewhat more impact, otherwise i'd strongly suggest making the emphasis on those faint drum sounds a bit more subtle Changed volume of hitsounds.
00:28:960 (1,2,1,2,1) - finishers like these are pretty random throughout the map, no crashes on the drum sounds and not even a drum sound at 00:29:369 - I improvised here and used the finishers consistent with rising the amount of them at the end of one section for impact. However, I misplaced them by one 4/1 so it felt very weird. Fixed that instead and move them one 4/1 forward. Added from this section onward 00:42:603 - some finishers as well.
00:38:232 - random density spike that is more intense than the kiais If anything, I would wait for more opinions. Reason for the density is because of the stretched vocals which is why I used longer and more 1/4 to emphasize this. It indeed influences the kiai a bit, but I think it has more to do with how the chorus naturally is emphasized (or maybe the way I map, which bases much on vocals).
00:48:051 (1) - the second slider here feels kinda anticlimactic, i'd suggest using either a spinner or a stream here, to go for a more building up effect from the last slider Yeah I agree. Added a spinner instead.
02:20:351 - you increased the density in the first half of the kiai but not really here, i'd suggest at least adding some more notes from here on to make the progressive density more consistent Possible. But for now I will leave it. These parts do not differ much in general to each other beside some additional notes.
03:11:133 - this gets less dense again than the second kiai? if you're going for progressive density i'd suggest sticking with it The reason is because the BPM becomes faster but also because the patterns are a bit harder than previous one, so I tried to keep an eye on that. Density is important but also in connection with the chosen patterns.

Ono's Muzukashii

HP6 same reason as oni? Fine with me.
00:14:778 (5) - random break of consistency here? That's the rise of notes effect (it's not the actual musical term) when you add additional sounds to a identical part for a different, yet similar, rhythmical sensation. It's something -some- humans expect to appear when listening to a song. Varies from person to person.
00:18:460 - use of multicolor patterns isn't reccomended in general in muzu, specially not for high bpm like this and when the oni has only simple patterns too That's true, however, there should be enough space between the previous and onward coming patterns to give Muzukashi players a rest.
Also, the patterns in Oni are harder.

00:20:778 - this d k d k d rhythm goes on for too long imo and becomes highly repetitive I agree. Didn't know what to do either tbh. Changed it something else.
00:38:232 - again random density spike like in the oni Same as in the Oni.
- i also feel like a lot of the patterns are too long for this kind of bpm in genera

the stuff on taiko was just a few basic things i noticed, not a full mod since i'm focusing on standard and i do not feel the taiko diffs are ready for a full check as of yet.

i hope this was helpful! :D
Thanks for your mod!
Download: http://puu.sh/ykkbm/9465647fb2.zip
Thanks ono!
Aistre
Tweaked the hitsounds a little. I didn't change the finishes because they felt unnecessary
uwu
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blobdash
also, you should add background's source in the description :
Pixiv and Danbooru

[url=https://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=60782440]Pixiv[/url] and [url=https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/2590260]Danbooru[/url]
Topic Starter
val0108

FruityEnLoops wrote:

also, you should add background's source in the description :
Pixiv and Danbooru

[url=https://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=60782440]Pixiv[/url] and [url=https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/2590260]Danbooru[/url]
okay~!
I didn't know that pixiv and danbooru have this image.
I hate idealism
why isn't this ranked? oO :(
Kawashiro

I hate idealism wrote:

why isn't this ranked? oO :(
Because CIA and MI-6 are watching this
Topic Starter
val0108

I hate idealism wrote:

why isn't this ranked? oO :(
I want to know the reason xDD
krykson
one of the funniest mapsets i have ever played <3
Mediakia
nice map!
DeRandom Otaku
[Easy]
  1. 01:39:662 (1,3) - Why not copy paste similar shape for symmetry
  2. 01:07:694 - Make this clickable and start spinner 1/1 beat later
  3. 00:45:876 - 01:59:488 - 03:35:140 - same . Rest of the parts like these are fine without circles since the beats aren't strong enough but its upto you if you wanna do the same thing with the rest
  4. 03:40:140 (1) - End this on 03:40:640 - and use a circle at 03:41:140 - for better emphasis
[Normal]
  1. 00:37:148 (1,2) - Can you have some contrast between these, even changing slider shapes work because the drums on 00:37:694 - are a lot stronger
  2. 01:13:148 (1) - You dont need this NC
  3. 01:39:140 (4) - would be better if this was two circles instead ,right now its similar to 01:34:966 (4) - but the song is much more intense at 01:39:140 -
  4. 02:24:010 (1) - Dont make it like this. Its better to have 02:24:532 - clickable because of the stronger vocal and that cymbal, Do something similar to 01:11:512 (1,2) -
  5. 02:28:966 (1) - Why do you a spinner here while the first and third kias are mapped with sliders and circles, Stop being lazy!
[Hard]
  1. 00:25:967 (4,1) - 00:30:330 (4,1) - 00:34:694 (4,1) - Since you emphasized every other downbeat with a jump , do the same for these
  2. 00:37:967 (8,1) - Putting a jump here is also strongly recommended because new stanza starts here
  3. 00:45:876 (1,1) - stack
  4. 01:11:785 (4,1) - Jump for stronger vocal and cymbal zz
  5. 01:58:836 (3,4) - Change those claps to whistles or something, claps don't fit and they sound really bad
  6. 02:08:880 (1) - 02:17:227 (1) - 03:00:140 (1) - 03:16:140 (1) - jump zz
  7. 03:41:140 (3) - NC?
[Insane]
  1. 00:49:694 - Completely muting a hitable object is not allowed iirc. you can safely increase volume to like 20% and it will still fit same goes for every other difficulty
  2. 01:47:227 (2) - Why not use the same shape as 01:46:184 (2,2) - these? song is relatively same here
  3. 02:39:140 - timing points with different settings, unrankable issue. Same for "extreme" difficulty
will do the rest later
Topic Starter
val0108

DeRandom Otaku wrote:

[Insane]
  1. 00:49:694 - Completely muting a hitable object is not allowed iirc. you can safely increase volume to like 20% and it will still fit same goes for every other difficultyFixed
  2. 01:47:227 (2) - Why not use the same shape as 01:46:184 (2,2) - these? song is relatively same here Fixed
  3. 02:39:140 - timing points with different settings, unrankable issue. Same for "extreme" difficulty
I do not know the solution to this.What should I do if I want to change the SV at the time the BPM changes?


will do the rest later
Thankyou!!!

[All diff]
I changed Preview point.
DeRandom Otaku
Gonna continue here, Don't KD

val0108 wrote:

DeRandom Otaku wrote:

[Insane]
  1. 02:39:140 - timing points with different settings, unrankable issue. Same for "extreme" difficulty
I do not know the solution to this.What should I do if I want to change the SV at the time the BPM changes?
Keep both sample sets to either "S" or "S:C1" something like :


[Another]
  1. 03:27:640 (3,4,1) - I know you wanted symmetry but the pattern here plays awkwardly. Firstly because of this huge spacing between 03:27:640 (3,4) - its one of the biggest jumps in the difficulty, secondly because of that huge drop down in spacing for 03:27:890 (4,1) - . The cursor movement reduces 4 times here which is really unnatural to play. I would suggest ctrl-g'ing 03:28:140 (1) - this to have a more of a natural kind of cursor movement here
[Extra]
  1. 00:06:603 (1,3) - 00:25:148 (1,2) - 00:49:694 (1,1) - Fix them stacks
  2. 00:11:512 (3,4) - maybe copy paste similar slider shape for symmetry? Same for 00:12:603 (7,8) -
  3. 00:28:285 (1) - The shape actually looks cramped close to the end lol Probably try something like http://puu.sh/yE2mq/5c33518b99.jpg to say consistent with rest of your aesthetics
  4. 02:34:445 (2,3,4,5,1) - Cute
  5. 02:40:140 (5) - 02:42:140 (5) - NC
  6. 03:25:640 (5) - Ctrl-g to be consistent with rest of your patterning
[Expert]
  1. 00:19:694 (1,1,1) - Would be cool to mute the slider ends ,you did the same in extra and extreme too
Guess i am gonna stop here now. The top difficulty is far above my playing level so i don't feel to safe modding/nominating it
Best of luck!
OnosakiHito

val0108 wrote:

I hate idealism wrote:

why isn't this ranked? oO :(
I want to know the reason xDD
because of ono :(
Kawashiro

DeRandom Otaku wrote:

[Hard]
  1. 00:25:967 (4,1) - 00:30:330 (4,1) - 00:34:694 (4,1) - Since you emphasized every other downbeat with a jump , do the same for these - Hmm, I need more comments about this. It seems boring to put jumps in every downbeats. And this distancing is following the intencity of the vocal. (ofc, my subjective standard)
  2. 00:37:967 (8,1) - Putting a jump here is also strongly recommended because new stanza starts here - Nah, the new stanza sounds week and soft.
  3. 00:45:876 (1,1) - stack
  4. 01:11:785 (4,1) - Jump for stronger vocal and cymbal zz - No, that sliderarts already emphasizing those well.
  5. 01:58:836 (3,4) - Change those claps to whistles or something, claps don't fit and they sound really bad
  6. 02:08:880 (1) - 02:17:227 (1) - 03:00:140 (1) - 03:16:140 (1) - jump zz - same as above, distancing is following my own standard
  7. 03:41:140 (3) - NC?
no comment=fix

thanks

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Topic Starter
val0108

DeRandom Otaku wrote:

Gonna continue here, Don't KD
[Insane]
  1. 02:39:140 - timing points with different settings, unrankable issue. Same for "extreme" difficulty
I do not know the solution to this.What should I do if I want to change the SV at the time the BPM changes?
[/quote]

Keep both sample sets to either "S" or "S:C1" something like :


[Another]
  1. 03:27:640 (3,4,1) - I know you wanted symmetry but the pattern here plays awkwardly. Firstly because of this huge spacing between 03:27:640 (3,4) - its one of the biggest jumps in the difficulty, secondly because of that huge drop down in spacing for 03:27:890 (4,1) - . The cursor movement reduces 4 times here which is really unnatural to play. I would suggest ctrl-g'ing 03:28:140 (1) - this to have a more of a natural kind of cursor movement here
[Extra]
  1. 00:06:603 (1,3) - 00:25:148 (1,2) - 00:49:694 (1,1) - Fix them stacks
  2. 00:11:512 (3,4) - maybe copy paste similar slider shape for symmetry? Same for 00:12:603 (7,8) -
  3. 00:28:285 (1) - The shape actually looks cramped close to the end lol Probably try something like http://puu.sh/yE2mq/5c33518b99.jpg to say consistent with rest of your aesthetics
  4. 02:34:445 (2,3,4,5,1) - Cute
  5. 02:40:140 (5) - 02:42:140 (5) - NC
  6. 03:25:640 (5) - Ctrl-g to be consistent with rest of your patterning
[Expert]
  1. 00:19:694 (1,1,1) - Would be cool to mute the slider ends ,you did the same in extra and extreme too
Guess i am gonna stop here now. The top difficulty is far above my playing level so i don't feel to safe modding/nominating it
Best of luck![/quote]

I pressed kudosu before reading the sentence‼︎

Marianna's insane MOD is nothing?

I'll fix your MOD!

Thank you!
Topic Starter
val0108

OnosakiHito wrote:

why isn't this ranked? oO :(
I want to know the reason xDD

because of ono :(
Does your taiko fulfill the rank criteria?

I don't know taiko.
OnosakiHito
It does fulfill the ranking criteria. Don't worry. It just might be that my maps have rather an old format of mapping for nowadays standards. I will see what I can do here. I don't want to let you wait for too long.
Frey

DeRandom Otaku wrote:

[Another]
  1. 03:27:640 (3,4,1) - I know you wanted symmetry but the pattern here plays awkwardly. Firstly because of this huge spacing between 03:27:640 (3,4) - its one of the biggest jumps in the difficulty, secondly because of that huge drop down in spacing for 03:27:890 (4,1) - . The cursor movement reduces 4 times here which is really unnatural to play. I would suggest ctrl-g'ing 03:28:140 (1) - this to have a more of a natural kind of cursor movement here
yes I know it's about consistency. But I think both of them are reasonable. About the jump between 03:27:640 (3,4) - , I have to say it's not that hard to play, a normal player like me could catch it easily as well. A slider jump would be more clear to see than a circle jump. besides, this is the most intense part of the song, why don't increase some difficulty?
the second one, about those small spacing, apparently the whistle hitsound is weaker than clap hitsound. so the spacing between 03:27:390 (2,3) - and 03:27:890 (4,1) - should be smaller for sure. If you say it's a huge drop-down, errrr actually it's not that huge tbh. It still keeps 1.1x spacing which I kept this part.
Ctrl+g works every time, however this time I don't want to disorder the up-and-down direction of those sliders 03:27:140 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) -


Thanks for your mod! :)
Shmiklak
  1. 01:39:662 (1,3) - Why not copy paste similar shape for symmetry I don't think that it's really useful.
  2. 01:07:694 - Make this clickable and start spinner 1/1 beat later I prefer the current way
  3. 00:45:876 - 01:59:488 - 03:35:140 - same . Rest of the parts like these are fine without circles since the beats aren't strong enough but its upto you if you wanna do the same thing with the rest keeping it as it is because it's fine for me
  4. 03:40:140 (1) - End this on 03:40:640 - and use a circle at 03:41:140 - for better emphasis Agree here
thanks for the mod owo
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Title:Chiisana Koi no Uta (Synth Rock Cover)
TitleUnicode:小さな恋のうた (Synth Rock Cover)
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Creator:val0108
Version:Shmik's Easy
Source:
Tags:omoi Hatsune_Miku Miku vocaloid M_a_r_v_o_l_l_o Alphabet Kawashiro Marianna Frey Kroytz Razor_Sharp OnosakiHito -Ken Shmiklak
BeatmapID:1288792
BeatmapSetID:609189

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:1.5
CircleSize:2.6
OverallDifficulty:2
ApproachRate:3
SliderMultiplier:0.400000005960464
SliderTickRate:1

[Events]
//Background and Video events
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//Break Periods
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//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples

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Topic Starter
val0108

DeRandom Otaku wrote:

Gonna continue here, Don't KD

Keep both sample sets to either "S" or "S:C1" something like :


[Another]
  1. 03:27:640 (3,4,1) - I know you wanted symmetry but the pattern here plays awkwardly. Firstly because of this huge spacing between 03:27:640 (3,4) - its one of the biggest jumps in the difficulty, secondly because of that huge drop down in spacing for 03:27:890 (4,1) - . The cursor movement reduces 4 times here which is really unnatural to play. I would suggest ctrl-g'ing 03:28:140 (1) - this to have a more of a natural kind of cursor movement here
[Extra]
  1. 00:06:603 (1,3) - 00:25:148 (1,2) - 00:49:694 (1,1) - Fix them stacks
  2. 00:11:512 (3,4) - maybe copy paste similar slider shape for symmetry? Same for 00:12:603 (7,8) -
  3. 00:28:285 (1) - The shape actually looks cramped close to the end lol Probably try something like http://puu.sh/yE2mq/5c33518b99.jpg to say consistent with rest of your aesthetics
  4. 02:34:445 (2,3,4,5,1) - Cute
  5. 02:40:140 (5) - 02:42:140 (5) - NC
  6. 03:25:640 (5) - Ctrl-g to be consistent with rest of your patterning
[Expert]
  1. 00:19:694 (1,1,1) - Would be cool to mute the slider ends ,you did the same in extra and extreme too
Guess i am gonna stop here now. The top difficulty is far above my playing level so i don't feel to safe modding/nominating it
Best of luck!
My diff All fixed. thanks!
Topic Starter
val0108
I am waiting for Chewin's mod
Aistre
@DeRandom Otaku applied everything although I didn't map the spinner because i wanted the map to be in a ternary form kinda

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Xinnoh
Just pointing out the largest issue with the set right now. I will mod depending on how this is responded to. No changes = no check.

The spread from Extreme -> Kroytz's diff is way too large. Unless many changes are made, the set can't be ranked as it is.

There are three ways to fix Kroytz's diff:
- Nerf it, low 7* is borderline acceptable
- Add another diff, same as above
- Delete it, simplest option

If you keep Kroytz's diff, it will take time and effort to make it rankable. I'll let you decide what to do in regards to this first.
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miku
Frey

Sinnoh wrote:

Just pointing out the largest issue with the set right now. I will mod depending on how this is responded to. No changes = no check.

The spread from Extreme -> Kroytz's diff is way too large. Unless many changes are made, the set can't be ranked as it is.

There are three ways to fix Kroytz's diff:
- Nerf it, low 7* is borderline acceptable
- Add another diff, same as above
- Delete it, simplest option

If you keep Kroytz's diff, it will take time and effort to make it rankable. I'll let you decide what to do in regards to this first.
I remember there is no limit for spread gap between the highest diff(there is supposed to be two Expert difficulties at least) and the last one.

The meaning of difficulty spread is to protect unskilled players from unexpected difficulty gap (e.g. A player who could only perform a standard Hard, the next Insane is very overmapped, so the gap is out of his level). Apparently this high-bpm song is quite intense. If a player could pass 0108's Extreme, then I believe he would have no problem with challenging the highest diff, so there won't be any problem because of the gap.

In the end, this song is a high-bpm song, you can't avoid high star if you want to map it an extreme diff. Judging the difficulty gap by star is kinda rough. I just want to say that. however I am a cautious mapper, so I am always fine with nerf an extreme difficulty
Shmiklak
Seems the problem has been resolved already. The Extreme difficulty has been increased to 6.84 and gap between the highest difficulty and it is 1.16 what must be perfect.

Frey wrote:

I remember there is no limit for spread gap between the highest diff(there is supposed to be two Expert difficulties at least) and the last one.
The thing you are talking about wasn't added to the game. Yes, there was a discussion about this and about adding new Ultra level but after long discussion it doesn't seem to be applied.
Frey
fine, nvm if the disscusion isn't effective.
Topic Starter
val0108

Sinnoh wrote:

Just pointing out the largest issue with the set right now. I will mod depending on how this is responded to. No changes = no check.

The spread from Extreme -> Kroytz's diff is way too large. Unless many changes are made, the set can't be ranked as it is.

There are three ways to fix Kroytz's diff:
- Nerf it, low 7* is borderline acceptable
- Add another diff, same as above
- Delete it, simplest option

If you keep Kroytz's diff, it will take time and effort to make it rankable. I'll let you decide what to do in regards to this first.
OK.
Extreme diff is 6.95 star now.

Ask for preparation of MOD :)
Kawashiro
wow u didnt pick all of sinnoh's solution lmao
Destirox
my wife chino is so cute
Topic Starter
val0108
Leave alone 0108 :(
Monstrata
Kroytz' EX EX

  1. 00:17:239 (3,4) - Unnecessary to make a jump this big here. There's no need to emphasize 4 and your placement is purely aesthetic so reconsider a different scheme.
  2. 00:37:148 (1) - Is this NC necessary?
  3. 00:41:785 (2,3) - Slider pls. No need for so many circles here especially since the pitch change comes next section. You don't want this to feel too intense yet or it detracts from the next stanza.
  4. 00:53:512 (1,2,3) - Ignores the vocal's rhythms really hard, even though you focused on the vocal rhythm on the measure before: 00:51:330 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - Basically i want to see 00:53:921 - clickable, and 00:54:058 (3) - not clickable.
  5. 01:02:239 (1,2,3) - Same issue here.
  6. 01:06:876 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - Not sure what value the kicksliders bring here.
  7. 01:07:558 (7,8,1) - Also i think the triplet is really lame. Ignore the really weak blue tick and do a jump here.
  8. 01:09:603 (5,6) - This jump is really hard to justify simply due to how weak 6 actually is.
  9. 01:11:921 (6) - Same etc... You should be using more sliders here.
  10. 01:14:785 (3) - And its kinda funny that you don't use circles here for the double kick. You clearly acknowledge the correct rhythm when hitsounding, though idk if you were the one who hitsounded.
  11. 01:19:694 (1,2) - etc... should be sliders.
  12. 01:30:662 (4) - Really kills the emphasis the three drums before would have if you made this clickable as well. 01:30:271 (1,2,3) - Should be really emphasized as the three drums that you make clickable, 4 is definitely not the same sound as the others, so make that either a slider-end or use a 1/1 gap here.
  13. 01:33:401 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Very random 1/2 clicking rhythm that you don't replicate elsewhere in the entire section.
  14. 01:40:966 (2,3) - Should be a slider tbh. Then 01:41:227 (4) - two circles. Just listen to the hitsounds, they don't reflect your clicking rhythm :(. And then 01:41:488 (5,6) - slider.
  15. 01:45:923 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Follow vocal rhythm instead. Jump spam here isn't good because you aren't following any distinct layer. The music is really muffly here so you'd only be able to justify "i'm following instrument layer" here but not any specific instrument because there is nothing that is both easy to follow, and also hits every single 1/2. (An argument can of course be made for "something follows every 1/2 tick here" but not "something follows every 1/2 tick here and is easily identifyable")
  16. 01:59:749 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - This is two sets of 6's. not 3 sets of 4's. The roll ends on 02:00:140 - So do something that reflects that with your stream structure.
  17. 02:19:184 (4) - Tbh this positioning doesn't look that nice. And doesn't really fit the rather clean parallelgram arrangements you've used for those 4-circle jumps.
  18. 02:52:390 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2) - These should all be sliders and you know that. :( Only 02:54:140 (3,4) - should be circles for the drums.
    03:08:640 (3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4) - Gotta integrate more 1/2 slider rhythms here, It's too 1/2 jump spammy. For example, 1/2 slider on 03:08:890 (5,6) - and 03:09:890 (3,4) - .
[]

This is not a song that's good for constant 1/2 jump spam, and I think you're quite aware of that. Listen to the hitsounds more, you're overmapping certain jumps to circles when they really should be 1/2 slider-ends. This is why the map feels forced. In the chorus, you'll notice that the only place where the song actively uses an additional drum beat is on the 3rd red tick. Examples: 00:56:376 (4) - 00:58:558 (4) - 00:59:648 - etc... But you're also not very consistent about making those clickable. Instead you often make some of the other red ticks that don't land on very justifiable sounds clickable. Examples of poor locations for 1/2 circles: 01:05:376 (6) - 01:09:739 (6) - 01:11:921 (6) - 01:14:103 (6) - 01:16:285 (6) - As you can see, it almost always ends up being the same rhythm, and you know this is true because your hitsounds give your rhythm away. Example: You hitsound 01:15:876 (3,4,5) - which is correct, for the two white ticks and the one red tick that has the drum kick, but you leave 01:16:285 (6) - out so you recognize that the beat it lands on isn't strong. Yet it receives the same jump treatment as the others. That's the inherent problem with the map.

If you fix this, you'll probably nerf the map down to what it really should be. But then it will be very easy to rank, I can assure you. The way you have it right now, it's still rankable, you can use the arguments I used for Inferno, but it will be very tedious and you don't have the same BN's at your disposal that I had, so I really recommend going through with the overmap nerfs instead.

Extreme

  1. 00:20:512 (2,3,4,5) - The stream just feels rather overmapped. There isn't really much support for the 1/4's in the music. Just go with slider like your other diffs?
  2. 00:25:967 (5,6) - 1/2 slider here. The jump onto 6 is very hard to justify because it's very weak. Also it's the biggest jump even though its very weak so its hard to fit in :(.
  3. 01:01:967 (5,6) - Same issue here about there being a really big jump onto a note that's weak compared to the other circles.
  4. 01:19:148 (3,4,5) - This rhythm should be ctrl+g'ed circle circle slider. Compare it to: 01:16:967 (3,4,5) - 01:18:058 (3,4,5) -
  5. 01:32:097 (5,6) - Same issue as earlier about the big jump being on a weak beat.
  6. 01:33:271 (6) - ^
  7. 01:40:575 (6) - ^Seems like a recurring issue but I think you get the point now xD.
  8. 01:45:923 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - Ahhh this is really satisfying to land. <3
  9. 02:02:358 (1,2,3,4,5) - This is pretty cool but doesn't really take advantage of the last note's emphasis. Try something like this: symmetrical stream, but have the last note be a jump. It's really satisfying to have the last note spaced like that. Creates some extra emphasis for that cymbal and still fits your symmetrical style.
  10. 02:34:966 (1) - Quite impressive! But it's also slightly off since you can see the white part in the center isn't perfect. I made a slightly cleaner one in case you want to use it. Replace 02:34:445 (1,2,3,4,1) -
    Use this code
    48,178,154445,5,8,0:0:0:0:
    337,97,154575,1,8,0:0:0:0:
    151,330,154706,1,8,0:0:0:0:
    163,32,154836,1,10,0:0:0:0:
    329,280,154966,6,0,B|315:189|248:183|248:183|316:178|337:96|337:96|247:82|220:143|220:143|234:77|162:32|162:32|122:112|171:157|171:157|113:123|48:177|48:177|114:241|170:206|170:206|119:251|151:330|151:330|234:286|218:222|218:222|245:281|319:276,1,1331.0000406189
  11. 02:40:140 (5) - Missing NC
  12. 02:42:140 (6,1) - Swap NC's
  13. 02:42:390 (1,2,3,1,2) - Tbh the jump shere are rather overmapped. I think it's okay to keep using sliders here. That way when the drums kick in at 02:46:390 (1,2) - it feels more intense. If you introduce circles too early, it makes the later section feel underwhelming.
Topic Starter
val0108

Monstrata wrote:

Extreme

  1. 00:20:512 (2,3,4,5) - The stream just feels rather overmapped. There isn't really much support for the 1/4's in the music. Just go with slider like your other diffs?
  2. 00:25:967 (5,6) - 1/2 slider here. The jump onto 6 is very hard to justify because it's very weak. Also it's the biggest jump even though its very weak so its hard to fit in :(.
  3. 01:01:967 (5,6) - Same issue here about there being a really big jump onto a note that's weak compared to the other circles.
  4. 01:19:148 (3,4,5) - This rhythm should be ctrl+g'ed circle circle slider. Compare it to: 01:16:967 (3,4,5) - 01:18:058 (3,4,5) -
  5. 01:32:097 (5,6) - Same issue as earlier about the big jump being on a weak beat.
  6. 01:33:271 (6) - ^
  7. 01:40:575 (6) - ^Seems like a recurring issue but I think you get the point now xD.
  8. 01:45:923 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - Ahhh this is really satisfying to land. <3
  9. 02:02:358 (1,2,3,4,5) - This is pretty cool but doesn't really take advantage of the last note's emphasis. Try something like this: symmetrical stream, but have the last note be a jump. It's really satisfying to have the last note spaced like that. Creates some extra emphasis for that cymbal and still fits your symmetrical style.
  10. 02:34:966 (1) - Quite impressive! But it's also slightly off since you can see the white part in the center isn't perfect. I made a slightly cleaner one in case you want to use it. Replace 02:34:445 (1,2,3,4,1) -
    Use this code
    48,178,154445,5,8,0:0:0:0:
    337,97,154575,1,8,0:0:0:0:
    151,330,154706,1,8,0:0:0:0:
    163,32,154836,1,10,0:0:0:0:
    329,280,154966,6,0,B|315:189|248:183|248:183|316:178|337:96|337:96|247:82|220:143|220:143|234:77|162:32|162:32|122:112|171:157|171:157|113:123|48:177|48:177|114:241|170:206|170:206|119:251|151:330|151:330|234:286|218:222|218:222|245:281|319:276,1,1331.0000406189
  11. 02:40:140 (5) - Missing NC
  12. 02:42:140 (6,1) - Swap NC's
  13. 02:42:390 (1,2,3,1,2) - Tbh the jump shere are rather overmapped. I think it's okay to keep using sliders here. That way when the drums kick in at 02:46:390 (1,2) - it feels more intense. If you introduce circles too early, it makes the later section feel underwhelming.
All fixed.
Thanks!!
Kroytz
Monstrata
Kroytz' EX EX

00:17:239 (3,4) - Unnecessary to make a jump this big here. There's no need to emphasize 4 and your placement is purely aesthetic so reconsider a different scheme. Not actually emphasizing (4), it's building for the NC that's spaced higher than the rest. The lower SV with the slider shows the emphasis best.
00:37:148 (1) - Is this NC necessary? Oh, I think the NC after was messed up. I fixed that one.
00:41:785 (2,3) - Slider pls. No need for so many circles here especially since the pitch change comes next section. You don't want this to feel too intense yet or it detracts from the next stanza. I suppose that's true, changed.
00:53:512 (1,2,3) - Ignores the vocal's rhythms really hard, even though you focused on the vocal rhythm on the measure before: 00:51:330 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - Basically i want to see 00:53:921 - clickable, and 00:54:058 (3) - not clickable. yeah.. :[
01:02:239 (1,2,3) - Same issue here.
01:06:876 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - Not sure what value the kicksliders bring here. There is a drum roll there and it leads into the star pattern so,
idk I think it looks pretty nice :T

01:07:558 (7,8,1) - Also i think the triplet is really lame. Ignore the really weak blue tick and do a jump here. I guess both ideas work, triples just bring the transition smoother rather than everything being kind jumpy crazy together e.e
01:09:603 (5,6) - This jump is really hard to justify simply due to how weak 6 actually is. My rhythm here is pretty obvious cuz like, on extended vocals its sliders and when the vocals say something instead of hold, then the circles act as the playing object.
01:11:921 (6) - Same etc... You should be using more sliders here.
01:14:785 (3) - And its kinda funny that you don't use circles here for the double kick. You clearly acknowledge the correct rhythm when hitsounding, though idk if you were the one who hitsounded. yeah i hitsounded this one xD Omoi does this kind of thing in all his songs, like Snow Drive for instance. And trying to follow those 1/1 becomes really boring or repetitive so idk i play around with more internal rhythms for some variance.
01:19:694 (1,2) - etc... should be sliders.
01:30:662 (4) - Really kills the emphasis the three drums before would have if you made this clickable as well. 01:30:271 (1,2,3) - Should be really emphasized as the three drums that you make clickable, 4 is definitely not the same sound as the others, so make that either a slider-end or use a 1/1 gap here. I guess hitsound faking wasn't enough. I fixed for the 1/1 gap~
01:33:401 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Very random 1/2 clicking rhythm that you don't replicate elsewhere in the entire section. Love me some variety :>
01:40:966 (2,3) - Should be a slider tbh. Then 01:41:227 (4) - two circles. Just listen to the hitsounds, they don't reflect your clicking rhythm :(. And then 01:41:488 (5,6) - slider. aaa but the vocal D: yeah the drums do some weird stuff but this vocal stood out to me more than the rest so its slider for that vocal, and then two circle for the drum-clap stuff ;;
01:45:923 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Follow vocal rhythm instead. Jump spam here isn't good because you aren't following any distinct layer. The music is really muffly here so you'd only be able to justify "i'm following instrument layer" here but not any specific instrument because there is nothing that is both easy to follow, and also hits every single 1/2. (An argument can of course be made for "something follows every 1/2 tick here" but not "something follows every 1/2 tick here and is easily identifyable") My only argument for this is producing a climax before the next period which is really really soft in contrast. Jump spam -> high distance sliders -> leads into a stream -> and then next period its all soft now. strict pattern will not always follow conventional mapping things but visually looks nice to me and achieves what its intention was for so..
01:59:749 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - This is two sets of 6's. not 3 sets of 4's. The roll ends on 02:00:140 - So do something that reflects that with your stream structure. Two set of 6s sound kind of weird to me too... I know my stream is slightly inaccurate too but I'll look more into this and see what I can change. I'd hate to have to use a kickslider in the midst of this but I hear 6/2/6 so idk for sure. For me I just simplified it because I didn't know what really is happening with the drums, the claps, and yeah. But I'll look into it ><
02:19:184 (4) - Tbh this positioning doesn't look that nice. And doesn't really fit the rather clean parallelgram arrangements you've used for those 4-circle jumps. Changed it around a bit, should have more cleaner overlaps and parallelogram thingies
02:52:390 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2) - These should all be sliders and you know that. :( Only 02:54:140 (3,4) - should be circles for the drums. there's no heaven for me monstrata... im dirty sinful mapper who loves his climaxes ;A;
03:08:640 (3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4) - Gotta integrate more 1/2 slider rhythms here, It's too 1/2 jump spammy. For example, 1/2 slider on 03:08:890 (5,6) - and 03:09:890 (3,4) - . All the choruses deliberately have the exact same rhythm so like idk lol. idk personally i find it more engaging to do some unconventional rhythms for the sake of patterns/difficulty. if all the rhythms were kept super precise with each other, it would be very predictable and the player would eventually get bored. even for some of my long slider rhythms I can get bored of them so, using more rhythm choices despite it not being the most 'accurate', to me is more fun and engaging especially for a map at this difficulty.

@the spiel: I hitsounded it to follow accurate to the music not necessarily for the map... I could change around the hitsounds to follow the map and maybe that'd be more fitting for this? Idk, I did the exact same thing on Snow Drive where the hitsounds (or the music I should say) does a lot of other things but the mapping is kept not 'too' complicated. there were deviating rhythm choices for more 'activity' and a lot of theoretical decisions such as ABAB or AABB patterns (4 slider, 8 circles, 4 sliders, 8 circles as one example, etc) for variety. Everything involving me has always been hard to rank sadly, even you know lol. That aside, hopefully some changes are okay here o3o

Thank you for the mod :)

Sorry I'm so late with this val!

Map
Still not enough space to copy/paste code:

http://puu.sh/zkHQL/dc327c4385.osu
Topic Starter
val0108

Kroytz wrote:

Monstrata
Kroytz' EX EX

00:17:239 (3,4) - Unnecessary to make a jump this big here. There's no need to emphasize 4 and your placement is purely aesthetic so reconsider a different scheme. Not actually emphasizing (4), it's building for the NC that's spaced higher than the rest. The lower SV with the slider shows the emphasis best.
00:37:148 (1) - Is this NC necessary? Oh, I think the NC after was messed up. I fixed that one.
00:41:785 (2,3) - Slider pls. No need for so many circles here especially since the pitch change comes next section. You don't want this to feel too intense yet or it detracts from the next stanza. I suppose that's true, changed.
00:53:512 (1,2,3) - Ignores the vocal's rhythms really hard, even though you focused on the vocal rhythm on the measure before: 00:51:330 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - Basically i want to see 00:53:921 - clickable, and 00:54:058 (3) - not clickable. yeah.. :[
01:02:239 (1,2,3) - Same issue here.
01:06:876 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - Not sure what value the kicksliders bring here. There is a drum roll there and it leads into the star pattern so,
idk I think it looks pretty nice :T

01:07:558 (7,8,1) - Also i think the triplet is really lame. Ignore the really weak blue tick and do a jump here. I guess both ideas work, triples just bring the transition smoother rather than everything being kind jumpy crazy together e.e
01:09:603 (5,6) - This jump is really hard to justify simply due to how weak 6 actually is. My rhythm here is pretty obvious cuz like, on extended vocals its sliders and when the vocals say something instead of hold, then the circles act as the playing object.
01:11:921 (6) - Same etc... You should be using more sliders here.
01:14:785 (3) - And its kinda funny that you don't use circles here for the double kick. You clearly acknowledge the correct rhythm when hitsounding, though idk if you were the one who hitsounded. yeah i hitsounded this one xD Omoi does this kind of thing in all his songs, like Snow Drive for instance. And trying to follow those 1/1 becomes really boring or repetitive so idk i play around with more internal rhythms for some variance.
01:19:694 (1,2) - etc... should be sliders.
01:30:662 (4) - Really kills the emphasis the three drums before would have if you made this clickable as well. 01:30:271 (1,2,3) - Should be really emphasized as the three drums that you make clickable, 4 is definitely not the same sound as the others, so make that either a slider-end or use a 1/1 gap here. I guess hitsound faking wasn't enough. I fixed for the 1/1 gap~
01:33:401 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Very random 1/2 clicking rhythm that you don't replicate elsewhere in the entire section. Love me some variety :>
01:40:966 (2,3) - Should be a slider tbh. Then 01:41:227 (4) - two circles. Just listen to the hitsounds, they don't reflect your clicking rhythm :(. And then 01:41:488 (5,6) - slider. aaa but the vocal D: yeah the drums do some weird stuff but this vocal stood out to me more than the rest so its slider for that vocal, and then two circle for the drum-clap stuff ;;
01:45:923 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Follow vocal rhythm instead. Jump spam here isn't good because you aren't following any distinct layer. The music is really muffly here so you'd only be able to justify "i'm following instrument layer" here but not any specific instrument because there is nothing that is both easy to follow, and also hits every single 1/2. (An argument can of course be made for "something follows every 1/2 tick here" but not "something follows every 1/2 tick here and is easily identifyable") My only argument for this is producing a climax before the next period which is really really soft in contrast. Jump spam -> high distance sliders -> leads into a stream -> and then next period its all soft now. strict pattern will not always follow conventional mapping things but visually looks nice to me and achieves what its intention was for so..
01:59:749 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - This is two sets of 6's. not 3 sets of 4's. The roll ends on 02:00:140 - So do something that reflects that with your stream structure. Two set of 6s sound kind of weird to me too... I know my stream is slightly inaccurate too but I'll look more into this and see what I can change. I'd hate to have to use a kickslider in the midst of this but I hear 6/2/6 so idk for sure. For me I just simplified it because I didn't know what really is happening with the drums, the claps, and yeah. But I'll look into it ><
02:19:184 (4) - Tbh this positioning doesn't look that nice. And doesn't really fit the rather clean parallelgram arrangements you've used for those 4-circle jumps. Changed it around a bit, should have more cleaner overlaps and parallelogram thingies
02:52:390 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2) - These should all be sliders and you know that. :( Only 02:54:140 (3,4) - should be circles for the drums. there's no heaven for me monstrata... im dirty sinful mapper who loves his climaxes ;A;
03:08:640 (3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4) - Gotta integrate more 1/2 slider rhythms here, It's too 1/2 jump spammy. For example, 1/2 slider on 03:08:890 (5,6) - and 03:09:890 (3,4) - . All the choruses deliberately have the exact same rhythm so like idk lol. idk personally i find it more engaging to do some unconventional rhythms for the sake of patterns/difficulty. if all the rhythms were kept super precise with each other, it would be very predictable and the player would eventually get bored. even for some of my long slider rhythms I can get bored of them so, using more rhythm choices despite it not being the most 'accurate', to me is more fun and engaging especially for a map at this difficulty.

@the spiel: I hitsounded it to follow accurate to the music not necessarily for the map... I could change around the hitsounds to follow the map and maybe that'd be more fitting for this? Idk, I did the exact same thing on Snow Drive where the hitsounds (or the music I should say) does a lot of other things but the mapping is kept not 'too' complicated. there were deviating rhythm choices for more 'activity' and a lot of theoretical decisions such as ABAB or AABB patterns (4 slider, 8 circles, 4 sliders, 8 circles as one example, etc) for variety. Everything involving me has always been hard to rank sadly, even you know lol. That aside, hopefully some changes are okay here o3o

Thank you for the mod :)

Sorry I'm so late with this val!

Map
Still not enough space to copy/paste code:

http://puu.sh/zkHQL/dc327c4385.osu
It's updated!!

thanks!!I don't mind Kroytz :)
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