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Equivalent wrote:<\/h4>Best example I can give : http:\/\/osu.ppy.sh\/s\/32989<\/a> Don't say it there is second offset by than<\/blockquote>that song is just like any other song with an unusually loud backbeak. The lyrics do not stress the backbeat, they stress every 3\/4 beat, starting on the downbeat.<\/div>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n D33d<\/a>\n\n \n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n 1,697 posts\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n\n \n Joined April 2011<\/strong>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n D33d<\/a>\n\n \n 2011-09-04T12:59:11+00:00<\/time>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n Just to be picky, the third beat of a bar isn't the downbeat. The downbeat is generally recognised as being the start of the bar, because that's the strongest beat of the bar. That's the entire point of music being divided into bars. I'm fairly sure that peppy uses the term \"stanza\" as an inaccurate analogue for a bar as well.The third beat could be considered as being at least half as strong as the start of the bar, but there shouldn't be too much emphasis being placed at this point, when the the music has an obvious 4\/4 rhythm. Accenting every third beat creates a marching feel. This is all well and good when the track has that sort of feel, but otherwise, it can be a bit silly.To clarify: \"Accenting every third beat\" could be applying a hitsound or starting a new combo\/using a particularly large jump inappropriately. This is just my take on it.<\/div>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n Sync<\/a>\n\n \n osu! Alumni\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/a>\n\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n 1,575 posts\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n\n \n Joined April 2011<\/strong>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n Sync<\/a>\n\n \n 2012-03-11T18:12:45+00:00<\/time>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n Equivalent wrote:<\/h4>This is what I like to call them. Sliders which start on beat 4 have a serious problem associated with them: if it\u2019s a 1\/1 slider, it will end on the downbeat. That leaves the downbeat unstressed, and can be awkward to play, especially when repeated.<\/blockquote>YES thank you so muchI could never think of a way to properly explain this in words<\/div>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n D33d<\/a>\n\n \n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n 1,697 posts\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n\n \n Joined April 2011<\/strong>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n D33d<\/a>\n\n \n 2013-02-15T19:01:10+00:00<\/time>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n I'd like to address another couple of things here, because attempting to talk about the wiki page in chat would probably become cumbersome and I don't want to edit the article without discussing it.Isn't the backbeat nothing more than beats two and four? Even if it can be used to refer to something else (I really doubt this), the general idea is that classical music emphasises beats one and three, while contemporary music uses the backbeat to emphasise two and four--therefore, every beat can be considered as strong. The backbeat can be pushed on the offbeat, but it's not really the same--especially when referring to basic pulse. A good addition could be the explanation that, by following delayed drum hits, a pattern can be made much more interesting.The upbeat is also usually regarded as being the last beat of the bar--the conductor's baton goes down, sideways for however many beats and then up on the last beat. There is one downbeat, one upbeat, the backbeat and the bar division. None of the beats are the offbeat--offbeats are what create syncopation by occurring between beats, so any red or blue tick can be considered as an offbeat. Also, \"upbeat sliders\" should be called \"sliders which start on a weak beat.\" Incidentally, this can include the upbeat, but that's not what beat 2 is.I might discuss this with mm and see if it's worth changing at all. It might also be worth including this, because using 1e+a2e+a etc. is a very efficient way of talking about rhythms.<\/div>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n ","next_url":"https:\/\/osu.ppy.sh\/community\/forums\/topics\/58959?cursor_string=eyJpZCI6MjEyMzY2NH0&skip_layout=1&sort=id_asc&with_deleted=0"}
Equivalent wrote:<\/h4>This is what I like to call them. Sliders which start on beat 4 have a serious problem associated with them: if it\u2019s a 1\/1 slider, it will end on the downbeat. That leaves the downbeat unstressed, and can be awkward to play, especially when repeated.<\/blockquote>YES thank you so muchI could never think of a way to properly explain this in words<\/div>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n D33d<\/a>\n\n \n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n 1,697 posts\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n\n \n Joined April 2011<\/strong>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n D33d<\/a>\n\n \n 2013-02-15T19:01:10+00:00<\/time>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n I'd like to address another couple of things here, because attempting to talk about the wiki page in chat would probably become cumbersome and I don't want to edit the article without discussing it.Isn't the backbeat nothing more than beats two and four? Even if it can be used to refer to something else (I really doubt this), the general idea is that classical music emphasises beats one and three, while contemporary music uses the backbeat to emphasise two and four--therefore, every beat can be considered as strong. The backbeat can be pushed on the offbeat, but it's not really the same--especially when referring to basic pulse. A good addition could be the explanation that, by following delayed drum hits, a pattern can be made much more interesting.The upbeat is also usually regarded as being the last beat of the bar--the conductor's baton goes down, sideways for however many beats and then up on the last beat. There is one downbeat, one upbeat, the backbeat and the bar division. None of the beats are the offbeat--offbeats are what create syncopation by occurring between beats, so any red or blue tick can be considered as an offbeat. Also, \"upbeat sliders\" should be called \"sliders which start on a weak beat.\" Incidentally, this can include the upbeat, but that's not what beat 2 is.I might discuss this with mm and see if it's worth changing at all. It might also be worth including this, because using 1e+a2e+a etc. is a very efficient way of talking about rhythms.<\/div>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n ","next_url":"https:\/\/osu.ppy.sh\/community\/forums\/topics\/58959?cursor_string=eyJpZCI6MjEyMzY2NH0&skip_layout=1&sort=id_asc&with_deleted=0"}