Skylish wrote:

Hi, from my modding queue, and actually I come here because of the #mapfeed stuff in Discord lol. I am here for suggesting some timing issues:

! Some critical concepts of setting up red timing points imo:

They should be set on the instrumental parts, but not vocal because instruments will give a stronger and solider feelings to players in the case of presence of both vocal and instrument.

Secondly, vocal is usually delayed. Humans have errors but synthesizer does not. (You will see this concept in some of my suggestions below later on)

The following timing links may be a bit confused, but I hope you can understand the meaning there by comparing my new timings below, with your previous own settings.

[Timing]

> 00:00:920 - The BPM should be in half until 00:17:795 - , judged by the music strong beats there. (add back suitable green timing points there to prevent super low scrolling speed which will damage the gaming effect)

> 00:06:170 - there should be a BPM=76 here as I can see the pattern of tempo changes at 00:07:671 - (00:06:564 - so this one is fitter now imo, and no extra timing point is needed for 00:06:959 - )

! 00:08:924 (5) - this new timing is based on the instrument but not the vocal, just for example. Some timings are fine-tuned as well, but it's very time-consuming to list them one by one, so I will just pick the most impt points for mentioning.

! 00:11:972 - should be hitting on the early instrumental note rather than the delayed vocal.

> 05:51:546 - this red timing point seems useless as the drum kick at 05:51:921 - is identical to 05:51:358 - under BPM=160.

> 05:52:679 - / 05:53:127 - confusing bar lines here, fixed with my new timings though

All red timing points you needed below:

920,750,4,1,0,30,1,0
6170,789.473684210526,4,1,0,30,1,8
6959,714.285714285714,4,1,0,30,1,0
7673,833.333333333333,4,1,0,30,1,8
8089,882.352941176471,4,1,0,30,1,8
8456,909.090909090909,4,1,0,30,1,8
9289,872.727272727273,4,1,0,30,1,8
9725,789.473684210526,4,1,0,30,1,8
10185,789.473684210526,4,1,0,30,1,0
10974,937.5,4,1,0,30,1,8
11442,789.473684210526,4,1,0,30,1,8
11738,937.5,4,1,0,30,1,8
11972,1000,4,1,0,30,1,8
14472,800,4,1,0,30,1,0
15272,800,4,1,0,30,1,8
15672,821.917808219178,4,1,0,30,1,8
16082,845.070422535211,4,1,0,30,1,0
16927,845.070422535211,4,1,0,30,1,8
17349,895.522388059701,4,1,0,30,1,8
17796,375,4,1,0,40,1,0
352296,400,4,1,0,70,1,0
352696,434.782608695652,4,1,0,70,1,8
353130,461.538461538462,4,1,0,70,1,8
353591,400,4,1,0,70,1,8
353991,551.724137931035,4,1,0,70,1,0
355094,551.724137931035,4,1,0,70,1,0

Please add suitable green timing points by yourself, I am tired X_X

Popped due to critical timing issues figured.

Skylish wrote:

Continued mod, NO KDS

EDIT: Adding General column

[General]

> 'SPRING TRACKS －春のうた－' 'Haru no Uta' you can add them to the tag column, it's the album of the song. Thank you for nice information. add them in tag.

[Timing]

> 00:13:972 - I forgot to mention that you need to add a red timing point to omit the barline here. When the BPM is too low (<100), barlines will appear in every two beats (normally barlines should appear in every four beats). This barline should be omitted in this case. add new 'red-timing' in 00:13:972. (BPM :60, Checked 'Omit first bar line.') so barline is deleted at 00:13:972.

[Oni]

> 01:44:421 - Although there are some inconsistent kicks-matching notes, they are okay because of vocals behind. However, this note is outstanding because there's no vocal at the background, the drum kicks should be the HL point. A kat would fit better. (take 01:56:421 - as reference) I agree that. fixed to k that note.

> 02:04:483 - it is different from 01:52:483 - , there's a vocal existing but without notes to state its difference. Maybe adding d would fit the vocal pitch much. okay~ add d there. I think It's better for pattern diversity.

> 03:40:483 - / 05:10:483 - ^ same as above add d them too.

> From 04:11:796 - to 04:17:796 - , the climax still continues from the last section's strong ending, but the density drops too drastically here. I am kinda confused esp.ly you put Kiai. It is expected to have a higher density frankly speaking, unless you have very special mapping rationale behind, and I would like to know it if there is any. tbh, at first I feel this accompaniment part is climax of this song(exactly, because of from 04:19:108 to 04:20:233 have stereo effect.) But, It's personal feeling. In fact, this part(from 04:11:796 to 04:17:796) is more fit to 'descent part.' before calm & rest part.(from 04:35:796 to start of next kiai.) So I decide to delete this kiai. Plus, I rechecked all kiai parts, and add new kiai part.(from 05:32:796 to 05:37:671.) I thought this excessive vocal(and lyrics) part should be a highlight of this song. so I think kiai is more clear than before. :3
> 05:06:171 - / 05:06:921 - / 05:07:671 - / 05:08:421 - umm.... where are those familiar polychrome triplets? fixed to polychrome pattern like other same parts.

> 05:17:421 - / 05:18:171 - / .... This ddd K pattern is too dry when the vocal pitch is rising. If you want to create a good ladder effect, I would recommend adding some k along the repeated uses of triplets:

+ 05:17:421 - ddd, the initial start
+ 05:18:171 - / 05:18:921 - kdd, start building up some kats to show the high-pitch ladder on going
+ 05:19:671 - kkd
+ 05:20:421 - kkd, or even kkk to state the climax
Changed this pattern by reference your suggestion. now ddd K kdd K kdd K kkd K kkd K.


Leave things to Stefan / Surono later, call me back when you are ready.