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Dreamcatcher - Lullaby

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Topic Starter
Natsu
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on sábado, 13 de enero de 2018 at 16:38:01

Artist: Dreamcatcher
Title: Lullaby
Tags: Nightmare kpop k-pop 지유 수아 시연 한동 유현 다미 가현 Ji-U Su-A SiYeon Handong YooHyun DaMi Gahyeon Happy Face Entertainment firetruck euny
BPM: 88
Filesize: 7602kb
Play Time: 03:17
Difficulties Available:
  1. Dreams (3,46 stars, 464 notes)
  2. Euny's Normal (1,66 stars, 238 notes)
  3. Firetruck's Advanced (2,26 stars, 356 notes)
Download: Dreamcatcher - Lullaby
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Full Moon : https://osu.ppy.sh/s/721842
GOOD NIGHT: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/603905
Chase Me: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/586144
Fly high: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/645657
Sleep-walking: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/645655
Lullaby: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/605622
Wake up: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/645662
l1mi
Hello Natsu!

01:47:102 (1,1,1) - Wouldnt it be easier and cause less confusion to read if you used a 1.4 distance spacing on these as you have before?
01:41:307 (2,3) - Because just before the same thing ment 1/2

Im guessing you want a slowdown there but you already have the decreased slider velocity so it feels quite good anyway. What do you think?
Topic Starter
Natsu
yeah I'll do something about it
tutuhaha
M4M ヽ(•̀ω•́ )ゝ
Don't forget add GDer's name on tag
At least do AudioLeadIn: 1000

[Xiaolin's Easy]
Close Widescreen Support
Really clear easy, nothing can talk about actually xD
Personally, I can feel that most of object are force on left part when I was playing,doesn't mean it feels bad but.....well, if there has any suggestion I can give, I will suggest you do "Flip Horizontally" (ctrl+H)for last kiai _(┐「ε:)_.
Anyway, Good diff!

[Firetruck's Normal]
Close Widescreen Support
00:19:829 (1) - hmmmm....for me, I would like follow vocal on this part, so maybe end this slider at 00:20:170 (x) - ?
01:28:693 (x) - add note? cause there has one stress rhythm
01:31:250 (2) - delete slider then add note on 01:31:420 (x) -, feel better maybe?
01:34:829 (4) - use two circle to instead slider will feeling better I think.
02:10:795 (4) - (shock (°□°;)
02:01:079 (2,3,4,5,6) - use same rhythm with 02:55:625 (2,3,4,5,6) - feeling much more smooth
personally I feel this more like advanced....

[Dreams]
Stack Leniency is larger than 0.9 or smaller that 0.3 (AiMod)
00:12:841 (3) - soft whistle?

That's all I find~
GL for rank (╭ ̄3 ̄)╭♡
riffy
get Euny to gd or riot

General
  1. I would say that the actual BPM is 88.
  2. How about we get fancy Slider Track and Slider Border colours? You seem to skin them very often, so why not do it here?
    Let's try this

    [Colours]
    Combo1 : 176,255,255
    Combo2 : 255,190,125
    Combo3 : 132,132,255
    Combo4 : 255,157,206
    Combo5 : 149,255,149
    Combo6 : 255,255,155
    SliderBorder : 210,170,170
    SliderTrackOverride : 130,130,150
Xiaolin's Easy
  1. At times you seem to oversimplify the rhythm, for instance,00:00:739 (1) - this slider actually should end on 00:01:591 - where the strong piano beat is. Or 00:05:511 (5) - should be snapped 1/2 earlier. like this, I guess
  2. 00:08:920 (3) - this continues, and here, you use one slider to map two different parts of the song. As 00:09:602 - is a clear cut off with no audible sounds at all. Try to make the parts of the instruments more clear.
  3. 00:30:739 (1,2) - it looks like you merge vocals and instruments together.If you wnat to follow the vocals, keep the circle and finish the slider on 00:31:420 - to match the fading voice
    Note: if you want to stress the instruments, then 00:32:102 (2) - this circle needs to go and 00:31:761 - will probably require a clickable beat.
  4. 00:45:398 - 00:45:739 - again, when you compare these two, the one on 00:45:398 - feels stronger, yet only 00:45:739 - this one is clickable.
  5. 00:53:750 - the simplification continues to trouble you, as the actual vocals and instruments peak here, yet the slider starts on 00:53:920.
  6. 01:38:920 (1) - try splittimng the slider? There is a cut-off on 01:39:602 - which probably should be highlighted. This way?
  7. 01:41:648 - the kiai part does not really bring a significant change in density/velocity and does not feel different from the previous parts. Probably, we could throw in a few more 1/1 sliders or something of the kind or tone down the calmer parts?
    Personally, I'd just replace 2/1 sliders with circles, as this would require players to be more accurate and at the same time still match the mood and rhythm of the difficulty.

    I feel like sometimes it was way oversimplified. For a three minute long song, this definitely could use some more variety and emphasis.
Firetruck's Normal
  1. Could be just me, but it seems like higher approach rate (5,5 at least) matches the slider velocity better. Since the BPM is high sliders are pretty fast.
  2. 00:21:193 (3) - can we split this? The beat in the middle of the slider is way too strong to remain unclickable. listen to this. Same happens to 01:47:102 (4) -
    Note: 00:26:307 - for the sort of similar reason this should have a clickable circle. and 00:29:034 - as well
  3. 01:28:693 - probably needs a circle as you seem to follow the more or less consistent vocals and it even has some drum back up as well.

    I would probably use slowdowns for calmer parts, or increase the Approach Rate. Apart from that I liked the overall rhythm and feel of the map.
Dreams
  1. 00:34:659 (1,2,3,4) - would be pretty cool to show some spacing/speed increase to match the pitch of the vocals.
    Note: 00:40:114 (1,2,3,4) - same.
  2. 00:44:034 (2,1) - since (2) is a drop-off slider, (1) should be spaced further to have more emphasis.
    Note: 01:43:523 (3,4) - could also use larger spacing for both emphais and aesthetics purposes.

    Cool.
The only thing I need now is Euny's part/difficulty and a storyboard with English lyrics. Jokes aside, though, it's a cool mapset. Keep it up!
gary00737
M4M


Dreams
00:00:739 (1) - https://transfer.sh/OtFUf/osu!_2017-08-27_17-51-43.png i think it will be better , it can follow the piano
00:02:954 (2,3) - ctrl+g i think the flow is ok too , and i think it is match music , 00:04:318 (2,3) - same @@
02:20:341 (3,4) - blanket will be better
02:06:704 (2,3) - use copy @@?>
02:07:898 (2) - i think here use 2 circle will be better

Firetruck's Normal
00:51:193 (4,5) - i think here have problem , becasue 00:51:364 - have vocals and 00:51:875 - have piano , i think here use 00:49:829 (1,2,3) - will be better
02:10:795 (4) - reverse -1
02:25:114 (1) - i think the slider no beautiful


easy beautiful :)

good song

sorry my mod skills not good, shoot a star :D
Topic Starter
Natsu
@bakari english is meh! let's add spanish and russian lyrics
Euny

Bakari wrote:

get Euny to gd or riot

The only thing I need now is Euny's part!
Smokeman
m4m from your q

might need another lower dif between easy and normal :s


Xaolin

The song chnagest drasticly between calm and energetic section yet you map never really depicts that in either rythm density or speed. Way too unexpressive even for an easy difficulty...

01:49:829 - 02:44:375 - increase the sv to 1,1-1,2 (Since you are already using a very low base sv). Like this you would automaticly create a contrast between the more energetic part and lullaby-ish non-kiai parts
(02:44:375 - could have this 0.05 higher sv than 01:49:829 - cause its slightly more intense imo)

00:11:648 - shouldn't the green line start here rather than there 00:12:329 - ?
00:13:693 (3) - movign this to 00:13:352 - would follow the piano and the vocals more closely. Since the vocals dont really play at 00:14:034 - and they create the build-up for the note at 00:14:375 - it might also be better to leave 00:14:034 - blank
00:21:193 (2) - I think you are trying to create a more simpler rythm than what the song gives you but mapping a whopping 1/2 slider on a breath-out sound is quite a strech. Confused me when i played it... 00:19:829 (1) - making this a reverse would emphasise the drop in intensity and also not confuse with offputting overmapped rythms.
00:45:739 (2) - there is literaly nothing here. Just the fading out vocals from 00:45:398 - . You dont need filler rythms in easy difs. Easpecialy when the song is so sparse to begin with..
01:07:557 (5) - a single note here instead of the slider. following a slider is harder than just hitting and object once and since 01:08:239 - doesnt really feature anything you would let the palyer end the slider on nothing and a muted sldier end. Just like 01:47:102 (1) - or 02:11:648 (1) - tbh
01:22:557 (1) - why not draw this slider w/o the red anchor? Would remove that wierd bump https://puu.sh/xlzAC/7c4cc9c609.png

If you decide against the sv change:
01:49:829 (1,2,3,1) - notice how this rythm spacing and composition is the same fkn thing as 00:47:102 (1,2,3,1) - w/o the streched out first slider because of drum tick or 01:30:739 (1,2,3,1) - and 01:52:557 (1,2,3,1) - You should really concider changing it up at least somehow because atm the map just repeats itself.
02:03:466 (1) - why map another 1/1 in the more intense part when you mapped it the same 01:00:739 (1) - in the undeniably calmer part. Break it up into more objects!
02:58:012 (1) - same
02:25:284 (1,2,3) - 02:44:375 (1,2,3) - some contrast would be really appreciated...

low quality easy difs smh..


Firetruck

Same problem with the Easy. There just is not contrast between the calm and energetic parts. The fact that you used more than double the sv than the first diff makes it even worse in comparison.

I would recommend you slow down everything but the kiai parts. 00:00:739 - 0,9 00:12:329 - 0,8 00:47:102 - 0,9 01:08:920 - 1,0 02:11:648 - 0,8

01:27:159 (6) - odd rythm choice. Does really start on anything. A 01:27:329 - 1/2 repeat here would fit the vocals better imo.
01:37:386 (4,5) - Going offbeat like this can really confuse a beginner player when you constantly follow the onbeat rythm. Something like https://puu.sh/xlApr/3a84c8b469.png would emphasise both while note being too rythmicly overbearing.
01:42:841 (1,2,3,4) - same
01:54:432 (5) - going with https://puu.sh/xlAuK/6dde3eb5d9.png would emphasise the vocals a lot better
02:25:114 (1) - kinda goes against your own implemented visual style and flow. ou might like something like https://puu.sh/xlAbQ/8d963b9a71.png better

If you keep the sv like this i am afraid that the gap between the Easy and Normal would be too big.


Dreams

01:08:920 - you should use a more distinct visual style for this part since you have only strong hitting drums. You could simply make the round sliders like 01:09:602 (3) - into pointy bois
01:14:204 (1) - If you are going to go for the guitar then do atleast the 1/6 since it would capture all the notes of the chord.Imo this plays really awkward and you dont really intruduce this concept anywhere else. 01:22:557 (1,2) - is mapped intuitivly (following w7e you did before). 01:47:699 (1,1) - These are the only other notes on 1/4 beats and they suck to play aswell ugh...
01:18:636 - a 1/2 here instead of 01:18:807 (2) - would create the momentum for 01:19:148 (3) - to feel really good to hit. (since you kinda disregarded the drums and thus made 01:19:148 (3) - feel weaker than it should've been)
01:21:704 (1) - Deleting this to emphasise the "alone" vocals of 01:21:193 (5) - would be a cool gimmick.
02:32:102 (1) - wouldnt it be cool if you made the heart slwoer compared to 02:28:011 (1) - cause the instrumentals abruptly stop?
03:09:943 (1) - imo you should have the slider even slower. Its the calmest part of all.


k-

xd
Xiaolin
That Easy was mapped quite a while ago, like May?

But anyways, I'll remap some parts because I myself find it terrible to be honest.

Placeholder.
Kujinn
m4m from ur q

[Dreams]
  1. 00:08:920 (1) - would be best if it was expressed with a 1/4,
  2. 00:21:704 (2) - piano note played on a white tick but placed on slider end? Maybe get rid of 00:21:704 (2,3,4) - and replace with a 1/1 slider starting 00:21:875 -
  3. 00:36:704 (3,1) - not really a bit deal but I'm sure there's a way to blanket these two and keep pattern structure.
  4. 00:41:648 (2) - I'd suggest reusing this 00:36:193 (2,3) -
  5. 01:08:750 - triple no?
That's all really. Nice

[Firetruck]
  1. 00:00:739 (1,2,3,4) - not a big deal, but u could blanket
  2. 00:03:977 (2) - I'd suggest make this a 1/2 slider or just remove the circle altogether. It doesn't feel like its playing to anything significant like 00:05:341 (5) -
  3. 00:37:557 (3,4) - this seems way to difficult to read for a normal map. Consider removing this and replace with two 1/2 sliders.
  4. 00:49:829 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - It feels weird and confusing to have a mixture of both music and vocal in one combo like this.
  5. 02:28:011 (1) - you could but some effort into making this look nicer. No biggie tho

[Xiaolin]
  1. 00:38:920 (1) - keep consistency maybe? tbh I prefer if you used this rather than 00:33:466 (1,2) -
  2. 00:45:739 (2) - this maps to nothing. Remove?
  3. 00:47:102 (1) - ummm?? 00:48:210 -

Good Luck!!
Euny

Bakari wrote:

get Euny to gd or riot

The only thing I need now is Euny's part!
As Bakaring's REQ
osu file format v14

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Tags:Nightmare kpop k-pop 지유 수아 시연 한동 유현 다미 가현 Ji-U Su-A SiYeon Handong YooHyun DaMi Gahyeon Happy Face Entertainment firetruck Xiaolin lapis aoki
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dont copy hs greenline.
Xiaolin


Firetruck is busy with IRL, so she asked me check mods for her.

tutuhaha wrote:

[Firetruck's Normal]
Close Widescreen Support Done.
00:19:829 (1) - hmmmm....for me, I would like follow vocal on this part, so maybe end this slider at 00:20:170 (x) - ?Sure, since this diff is mapped by vocals.
01:28:693 (x) - add note? cause there has one stress rhythm Added.
01:31:250 (2) - delete slider then add note on 01:31:420 (x) -, feel better maybe? I don't know really. Like I said, the diff is mapped on vocals, so I'll pass.
01:34:829 (4) - use two circle to instead slider will feeling better I think. Same as above.
02:10:795 (4) - (shock (°□°;) Right.. replaced them with two 2/1 sliders.
02:01:079 (2,3,4,5,6) - use same rhythm with 02:55:625 (2,3,4,5,6) - feeling much more smooth Sure.
personally I feel this more like advanced.... Now it is an Advanced!

Bakari wrote:

Firetruck's Normal
  1. Could be just me, but it seems like higher approach rate (5,5 at least) matches the slider velocity better. Since the BPM is high sliders are pretty fast. True, changed AR to 5.5
  2. 00:21:193 (3) - can we split this? The beat in the middle of the slider is way too strong to remain unclickable. listen to this. Same happens to 01:47:102 (4) - Fixed the first part, and for the second part, I did remove remove the reverse, but I added a second slider that's on 1/4 because of vocals.
    Note: 00:26:307 - for the sort of similar reason this should have a clickable circle. and 00:29:034 - as well Fixed.
  3. 01:28:693 - probably needs a circle as you seem to follow the more or less consistent vocals and it even has some drum back up as well. Yeah, added on the previous mod.

    I would probably use slowdowns for calmer parts, or increase the Approach Rate. Apart from that I liked the overall rhythm and feel of the map.

gary00737 wrote:

Firetruck's Normal
00:51:193 (4,5) - i think here have problem , becasue 00:51:364 - have vocals and 00:51:875 - have piano , i think here use 00:49:829 (1,2,3) - will be better I feel like rhythm would look too dense if I tried to fix this, but I'll consider.
02:10:795 (4) - reverse -1 Fixed in the previous mod.
02:25:114 (1) - i think the slider no beautiful Adjusted a bit.

Smokeman wrote:

Firetruck

Same problem with the Easy. There just is not contrast between the calm and energetic parts. The fact that you used more than double the sv than the first diff makes it even worse in comparison.

I would recommend you slow down everything but the kiai parts. 00:00:739 - 0,9 00:12:329 - 0,8 00:47:102 - 0,9 01:08:920 - 1,0 02:11:648 - 0,8 Nah.. I'd rather keep SV constant throughout the diff.

01:27:159 (6) - odd rythm choice. Does really start on anything. A 01:27:329 - 1/2 repeat here would fit the vocals better imo. Added two 1/2 sliders instead.
01:37:386 (4,5) - Going offbeat like this can really confuse a beginner player when you constantly follow the onbeat rythm. Something like https://puu.sh/xlApr/3a84c8b469.png would emphasise both while note being too rythmicly overbearing. Fixed.
01:42:841 (1,2,3,4) - same ^
01:54:432 (5) - going with https://puu.sh/xlAuK/6dde3eb5d9.png would emphasise the vocals a lot better To be honest, I feel like the rhythm that was used here is already fine.
02:25:114 (1) - kinda goes against your own implemented visual style and flow. ou might like something like https://puu.sh/xlAbQ/8d963b9a71.png better Fixed.

If you keep the sv like this i am afraid that the gap between the Easy and Normal would be too big.

Kujinn wrote:

[Firetruck]
  1. 00:00:739 (1,2,3,4) - not a big deal, but u could blanket Wouldn't look visually good if I blanket to be honest.
  2. 00:03:977 (2) - I'd suggest make this a 1/2 slider or just remove the circle altogether. It doesn't feel like its playing to anything significant like 00:05:341 (5) - Added a whistle on it instead, I don't want it to make it too dense here, and removing it would feel weird.
  3. 00:37:557 (3,4) - this seems way to difficult to read for a normal map. Consider removing this and replace with two 1/2 sliders. Seems fine for an Advanced, though.
  4. 00:49:829 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - It feels weird and confusing to have a mixture of both music and vocal in one combo like this. Hm? It plays fine IMO..
  5. 02:28:011 (1) - you could but some effort into making this look nicer. No biggie tho Was removed in the previous mod.

Good Luck!!
Thank you all for the mods! And also DS was bumped so that notes don't touch each other.

https://puu.sh/xGSHb.osu
Topic Starter
Natsu

tutuhaha wrote:

M4M ヽ(•̀ω•́ )ゝ
At least do AudioLeadIn: 1000 osu add it automatically

[Dreams]
Stack Leniency is larger than 0.9 or smaller that 0.3 (AiMod) that's fine
00:12:841 (3) - soft whistle?only with piano

That's all I find~
GL for rank (╭ ̄3 ̄)╭♡

Bakari wrote:

get Euny to gd or riot

General
  1. How about we get fancy Slider Track and Slider Border colours? You seem to skin them very often, so why not do it here? since the bg has many colors and the number of colors that I'm using is huge, I think keeping it default is better
Dreams
  1. 00:34:659 (1,2,3,4) - would be pretty cool to show some spacing/speed increase to match the pitch of the vocals. it's a really calm song,
    I prefer to keep the pattern like it's, since it looks better
  2. 00:44:034 (2,1) - since (2) is a drop-off slider, (1) should be spaced further to have more emphasis. same as above

    Cool.
The only thing I need now is Euny's part done

gary00737 wrote:

Dreams
00:00:739 (1) - https://transfer.sh/OtFUf/osu!_2017-08-27_17-51-43.png i think it will be better , it can follow the piano my current one is simple and I prefer that
00:02:954 (2,3) - ctrl+g i think the flow is ok too , and i think it is match music , 00:04:318 (2,3) - same @@ that would break the spacing
02:07:898 (2) - i think here use 2 circle will be better a single slider fit the vocals better

Smokeman wrote:

Dreams

01:08:920 - you should use a more distinct visual style for this part since you have only strong hitting drums. You could simply make the round sliders like 01:09:602 (3) - into pointy bois i prefer it visually xd
01:14:204 (1) - If you are going to go for the guitar then do atleast the 1/6 since it would capture all the notes of the chord.Imo this plays really awkward and you dont really intruduce this concept anywhere else. 01:22:557 (1,2) - is mapped intuitivly (following w7e you did before). 01:47:699 (1,1) - These are the only other notes on 1/4 beats and they suck to play aswell ugh... added a single circle for the first one about the 1/4 ones, they are super easy to play O.O
01:18:636 - a 1/2 here instead of 01:18:807 (2) - would create the momentum for 01:19:148 (3) - to feel really good to hit. (since you kinda disregarded the drums and thus made 01:19:148 (3) - feel weaker than it should've been) it's just filler rhythm for the next vocals part, the simple the better
01:21:704 (1) - Deleting this to emphasise the "alone" vocals of 01:21:193 (5) - would be a cool gimmick. the next word is starting here 01:21:704 (1) - tho
02:32:102 (1) - wouldnt it be cool if you made the heart slwoer compared to 02:28:011 (1) - cause the instrumentals abruptly stop? so hard to reshape it xd
03:09:943 (1) - imo you should have the slider even slower. Its the calmest part of all. then rip 03:09:943 (1,1) - blanket, also adding much sv changes on a calm hard diff isn't cool

Kujinn wrote:

m4m from ur q

[Dreams]
  1. 00:08:920 (1) - would be best if it was expressed with a 1/4, too hard tbh
  2. 00:21:704 (2) - piano note played on a white tick but placed on slider end? Maybe get rid of 00:21:704 (2,3,4) - and replace with a 1/1 slider starting 00:21:875 - I'm following vocals
  3. 00:36:704 (3,1) - not really a bit deal but I'm sure there's a way to blanket these two and keep pattern structure. the star tho
  4. 00:41:648 (2) - I'd suggest reusing this 00:36:193 (2,3) - those parts are different
  5. 01:08:750 - triple no? mmm nop, would be so troll to use a single triplet in the full diff
That's all really. Nice


Good Luck!!
thanks!
Plaudible
hi

general
all the diffs do custom breaks differently lol

euny
00:21:193 (3,4) - maybe this rhythm? http://puu.sh/xHRSf/4d1a631ccf.jpg the piano feels kinda downplayed here
00:32:102 (3) - what did the blanket say to the circle? i've got you covere- >:( not well enough
well made, got nothing else

my truck is on fire
i feel like you could include some sv changes on occasion to emphasize some parts of the song, at times sliders like 01:47:102 (4,5) - feel too fast for the song. adding some slight sv variation would be perfect for a song like this, perhaps slowing the slower parts down some would be more fitting?
some sounds in the chorus that focus more on the melody/piano could be emphasized more i think, could you include the sound at 00:51:875 - by any chance? 00:56:648 - too. same at other choruses
also map out the ending like the other 2 ppls did
01:41:477 (4) - you made these notes sliders for the most part to catch the large white tick sounds
01:47:102 (4) - might as well snap this 1/8 if you do the slider upcoming too
02:09:943 (3,4,5) - this rhythm kinda kills the drums here. try this: http://puu.sh/xHTLw/7dea335436.jpg
03:05:511 (5,6) - overdone imo, try this? http://puu.sh/xHU8Q/7c23f6e8e7.jpg

dreamy memey
00:23:750 (3) - stack gets kinda rip
00:24:602 (5,6) - maybe a slider here so the piano gets mapped out?
01:16:761 (2) - seeing as how you mapped out 1/2 vocals more like at 01:14:886 (1,2) - it'd be fitting here too tbh
01:08:920 (1) - so in this section i feel like you could map out a few more of the 1/4 drum beats. the start sets a precursor that you'll make most of them if not all clickable, but once vocals come in, notes like at 01:15:909 -, 01:18:295 -, 01:18:636 - get kinda ignored. would be cool to include em imo

cute map song call me backo awooga
Firetruck
HI ITS ME I APPLIED MODS IM SORRY FOR MAKING YOU WAIT

applied everything, thanks!

xd
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Topic Starter
Natsu

Plaudible wrote:

hi

euny
00:21:193 (3,4) - maybe this rhythm? http://puu.sh/xHRSf/4d1a631ccf.jpg the piano feels kinda downplayed here vocals

dreamy memey
00:24:602 (5,6) - maybe a slider here so the piano gets mapped out? I'm mapping to the vocals mostly
01:16:761 (2) - seeing as how you mapped out 1/2 vocals more like at 01:14:886 (1,2) - it'd be fitting here too tbh they are different words
01:08:920 (1) - so in this section i feel like you could map out a few more of the 1/4 drum beats. the start sets a precursor that you'll make most of them if not all clickable, but once vocals come in, notes like at 01:15:909 -, 01:18:295 -, 01:18:636 - get kinda ignored. would be cool to include em imo I want to keep the rhythm mostly to the vocals :l

cute map song call me backo awooga
Plaudible

Natsu wrote:

Plaudible wrote:

hi

euny
00:21:193 (3,4) - maybe this rhythm? http://puu.sh/xHRSf/4d1a631ccf.jpg the piano feels kinda downplayed here vocals in that case shouldn't things like 00:30:739 (1,2) - not have anything clickable at 00:31:250 - ? the piano is clearly mapped out at some points and i think mapping both vocals and piano is a better approach as euny does in other parts too.

dreamy memey
00:24:602 (5,6) - maybe a slider here so the piano gets mapped out? I'm mapping to the vocals mostly by that logic shouldn't a slider fit the vocals too then, since the vocals are held out? note 00:23:750 (3) - for example
01:08:920 (1) - so in this section i feel like you could map out a few more of the 1/4 drum beats. the start sets a precursor that you'll make most of them if not all clickable, but once vocals come in, notes like at 01:15:909 -, 01:18:295 -, 01:18:636 - get kinda ignored. would be cool to include em imo I want to keep the rhythm mostly to the vocals :l what would keeping so strongly to vocals mean for the parts without vocals though? at 01:18:125 (1,2,3) - for example you're already following background instruments but it's just not as accurately as you could. adding that 1/4 will make that shift in what you're mapping to a lot more clear. even at 01:23:239 (3) - , the vocals do a 1/4 trill at the end on the last blue tick, too. i don't think it'd be a bother to include more 1/4, so pleeease reconsider ;-;

do note if you re-do the 1/4 i know it'll be a little more work since some parts of the chorus and such also include 1/4 but it'd make the rhythm variation more interesting and make the map more fun overall. for example, 02:59:205 (4) - 's head would be a triple instead, but 02:59:205 (4,5) - would become a triple onto a 1/2 slider which could also better represent the vocals. whatever these entail, just so long as any potential changes to how the rhythm is represented is consistent i'm fine with it

cute map song call me backo awooga
Topic Starter
Natsu

Plaudible wrote:

hi

euny
00:21:193 (3,4) - maybe this rhythm? http://puu.sh/xHRSf/4d1a631ccf.jpg the piano feels kinda downplayed here vocals in that case shouldn't things like 00:30:739 (1,2) - not have anything clickable at 00:31:250 - ? the piano is clearly mapped out at some points and i think mapping both vocals and piano is a better approach as euny does in other parts too. ok

dreamy memey
00:24:602 (5,6) - maybe a slider here so the piano gets mapped out? I'm mapping to the vocals mostly by that logic shouldn't a slider fit the vocals too then, since the vocals are held out? note 00:23:750 (3) - for example they are separate syllable
that's why the 2 clicks, a slider would bring a single click which I don't intend to do

01:08:920 (1) - so in this section i feel like you could map out a few more of the 1/4 drum beats. the start sets a precursor that you'll make most of them if not all clickable, but once vocals come in, notes like at 01:15:909 -, 01:18:295 -, 01:18:636 - get kinda ignored. would be cool to include em imo I want to keep the rhythm mostly to the vocals :l what would keeping so strongly to vocals mean for the parts without vocals though? at 01:18:125 (1,2,3) - for example you're already following background instruments but it's just not as accurately as you could. adding that 1/4 will make that shift in what you're mapping to a lot more clear. even at 01:23:239 (3) - , the vocals do a 1/4 trill at the end on the last blue tick, too. i don't think it'd be a bother to include more 1/4, so pleeease reconsider ;-; 01:18:125 (1,2,3) done 01:15:739 (4) - the slider is following a hold vocal I don't want to merge the rhythm


do note if you re-do the 1/4 i know it'll be a little more work since some parts of the chorus and such also include 1/4 but it'd make the rhythm variation more interesting and make the map more fun overall. for example, 02:59:205 (4) - 's head would be a triple instead, but 02:59:205 (4,5) - would become a triple onto a 1/2 slider which could also better represent the vocals. whatever these entail, just so long as any potential changes to how the rhythm is represented is consistent i'm fine with it 02:59:205 (4) - for this there is a hold vocal, why I would merge the rhythms to make the player confuse?, the rhythm is clearly consistent, it mainly focus on vocals and for the non vocal parts I bring simple rhythm without overdo the calm nature of the song, for example if I map every little instrument the map would become too dense and it will not reflect the overall feeling of the song


cute map song call me backo awooga
Mafumafu
[Euny's Normal]
OD4 is quite scary for a lowest diff. try -1
00:21:704 (4) - I suggest removing this note since there's no piano on it.
00:44:375 (1) - How about adjusting the position of the red dote so that the heart shape could curve along with the rhythm. For example: https://puu.sh/yEJFJ/447fcdd5bb.png
01:21:193 (3) - A bit offscreen
01:30:739 (1,2,3) - Considering you are following vocal for this section, this rhythm plays more comfortable imo: https://puu.sh/yEKgN/aaf0ccf81a.png
01:49:829 (1) - This reverse slider is pretty weird as it does not match any vocal or beats. I'd like to advise changing it into something like 01:55:284 (1,2) -. 02:44:375 (1) - Same here
01:51:704 (3) - Rhythm here is too weak for a circle.
02:02:102 (3,1) - I wonder if they deserve to be a reverse slider. 02:00:738 (1) - This is eligible for the piano on the reverse point is clearly audible yet piano sounds on 02:02:102 (3,1) - are pretty vague. 02:56:648 (3,1) - Same here.

Overall rhythm is a bit messy. I'd recommend to go over the diff and try to follow one track (piano or vocal) within at least a certain section. Varying the track you are following is quite hard for new players to read and to comprehend the rhythm.

[Firetruck's Advanced]
AR+0.5
00:14:375 (5) - I guess you missed an NC
01:06:023 (6) - ^
01:16:420 (5) - I'd recommend changing it into a circle or at least remove the whistles on its tail. This is to ensure the vocals are properly emphasized.

I'd like to say it is better to buff this diff a bit to match with the spread.

[Dreams]
01:17:102 (3) - A circle sounds better. Also keep consistency with 01:22:557 (1,2) - .
Topic Starter
Natsu

Regraz wrote:

[Euny's Normal]
OD4 is quite scary for a lowest diff. try -1 OD 4 is mainstream for normal diffs o.o
01:30:739 (1,2,3) - Considering you are following vocal for this section, this rhythm plays more comfortable imo: https://puu.sh/yEKgN/aaf0ccf81a.png
It's following the bg beats not too much to the vocals
01:49:829 (1) - This reverse slider is pretty weird as it does not match any vocal or beats. I'd like to advise changing it into something like 01:55:284 (1,2) -. 02:44:375 (1) - Same here it does match the vocals there is the lullaby thing
02:02:102 (3,1) - I wonder if they deserve to be a reverse slider. 02:00:738 (1) - This is eligible for the piano on the reverse point is clearly audible yet piano sounds on 02:02:102 (3,1) - are pretty vague. 02:56:648 (3,1) - Same here. well there are 3 sounds on it, I think it does fit it well

Overall rhythm is a bit messy. I'd recommend to go over the diff and try to follow one track (piano or vocal) within at least a certain section. Varying the track you are following is quite hard for new players to read and to comprehend the rhythm. checked, but it seems fine to me, take in cosideration that in this kind of song the piano isn't constant and neither the vocals are, so you need to swap rhythms really often, my diff do the same and also the advanced

[Firetruck's Advanced]

01:16:420 (5) - I'd recommend changing it into a circle or at least remove the whistles on its tail. This is to ensure the vocals are properly emphasized. I think the current way represents the music just fine

I'd like to say it is better to buff this diff a bit to match with the spread. I also don't think there are spread problems,firetruck's use almost the same rhythm as my hard, but using a bit more sliders and the jumps at my hard are mostly sliders to slider which bring a big amount of movement and clicking leniency
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Chromoxx
hi, quick mod

General
03:16:420 - how about raising the volume for the spinner a bit here to emphasize the sound that sets in?

Dreams
00:07:557 (1) - this sound is kinda stronger than 00:07:898 (2,3,4) - so maybe make it stand out a bit more?
00:21:875 - there isn't really any emphasis on this sound whatsoever, even though it's a really strong piano sound on a white tick, i'd highly suggest making this clickable or at least adding some kind of emphasis through hitsounds
00:34:829 - and 00:38:920 - same thing, but a bit less important to me i guess.. maybe just try emphasizing these piano sounds through hitsounds or something if you wanna keep the current rhythm
01:16:761 (2,4) - blanket is off
01:22:727 (2) - blanket seems a bit off here too, might just be me tho
02:28:011 (1) - cute

Advanced
00:31:761 (3) - not neccesary to have this as a 1/4 slider since there is no vocal at 00:31:932 - . maybe just use a single note to differentiate it from stuff like 00:27:670 (4) - etc. where there are actually 2 vocals
01:13:864 - add a note here for drum?
01:16:420 (5,6) - single notes? emphasizing single vocals through 1/4 sliders is a bit too much for an advanced imo
01:26:648 (5,6) - ^
02:15:739 (4) - this could kinda blanket 02:15:398 (3) -
02:23:239 (3) - single note? no drum on the tail here

Normal
00:12:159 (2) - you could delete this note, rhythm is kinda intense for this calm section and it's ok to ignore quiet piano sounds in a normal
00:23:068 (2) - ^
01:49:829 (1,2) - this rhythm feels kinda weird, something like 01:55:284 (1,2) - would be better imo
02:17:784 (2) - why repeat? there's no sound on 02:17:954 -
02:44:375 (1,2) - same about this rhythm

that's about it, call me back :3
Topic Starter
Natsu

Chromoxx wrote:

hi, quick mod

General
03:16:420 - how about raising the volume for the spinner a bit here to emphasize the sound that sets in? it already sounds loud enough,
I really don't like the spinner soun tbh


Dreams
00:07:557 (1) - this sound is kinda stronger than 00:07:898 (2,3,4) - so maybe make it stand out a bit more? it already have higher spacing from the previous note, if you're talking about the slider shape, I really don't want to mess up the pattern
00:21:875 - there isn't really any emphasis on this sound whatsoever, even though it's a really strong piano sound on a white tick, i'd highly suggest making this clickable or at least adding some kind of emphasis through hitsounds because I mostly focus on vocals, I don't want to merge rhythms as much as posibe
00:34:829 - and 00:38:920 - same thing, but a bit less important to me i guess.. maybe just try emphasizing these piano sounds through hitsounds or something if you wanna keep the current rhythm same, I also think the whistle do the job


Advanced

01:16:420 (5,6) - single notes? emphasizing single vocals through 1/4 sliders is a bit too much for an advanced imo it's fine the bpm is low enough and also the spread between the hard and the normal diff
01:26:648 (5,6) - ^
02:23:239 (3) - single note? no drum on the tail here there is a piano

Normal

01:49:829 (1,2) - this rhythm feels kinda weird, something like 01:55:284 (1,2) - would be better imo tried, but the current one is more simple for this part
02:44:375 (1,2) - same about this rhythm ^

that's about it, call me back :3
Chromoxx
bubbled :D
Mafumafu
The stack leniency 2 in the top diff kinda triggered me. I don't think the patterns within this diff needs a SL2. (Just a suggestion)

Also, just in case, do you have any metadata source?
Topic Starter
Natsu
https://www.google.it/search?q=lullaby+ ... fcOMHZVzgM:

About the sl I want to keep it as the visuals are better with it
Mafumafu
Let's give a try.
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