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KinkyOats - Mystic Jack [Taiko]

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Midnaait
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Joined April 2012
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Midnaait
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on jueves, 24 de agosto de 2017 at 01:37:40 a.m.

Artist: KinkyOats
Title: Mystic Jack
Tags: ujico* Snail's House Girl streeteelf Ayyri Nepuri zigizigiefe
BPM: 128
Filesize: 16930kb
Play Time: 01:14
Difficulties Available:
  1. 8-Sided, 8-Angled, Fantastic Inner Oni (4,22 stars, 507 notes)
  2. Ayyri's Futsuu (1,88 stars, 155 notes)
  3. Nepu's Muzukashii (2,78 stars, 228 notes)
  4. SEE's Kantan (1,13 stars, 88 notes)
  5. zigi's Oni (3,47 stars, 390 notes)
Download: KinkyOats - Mystic Jack
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Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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08/13/2017 Redownload please, Changed BG


Kantan by streeteelf
Futsuu by Ayyri
Muzukashii by Nepuri
Oni by zigizigiefe
Inner Oni by Midnaait
Last edited by Midnaait , edited 9 times in total.
zigizigiefe
952 posts
Joined March 2013
zigizigiefe
what have i done
osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: audio.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 45080
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Normal
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 1
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
DistanceSpacing: 0.1
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 1.8

[Metadata]
Title:Mystic Jack
TitleUnicode:Mystic Jack
Artist:KinkyOats
ArtistUnicode:KinkyOats
Creator:Midnaait
Version:zigi's Oni
Source:
Tags:
BeatmapID:0
BeatmapSetID:-1

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:6
CircleSize:5
OverallDifficulty:6
ApproachRate:5
SliderMultiplier:1.4
SliderTickRate:1

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//Break Periods
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//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
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streeteelf
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streeteelf
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Nifty
Beatmap Nominator
898 posts
Joined September 2014
Nifty
hi m4m hello

TOO MANY SIDES Inner Oni


◾ 00:07:228 (47,48) - ctrl-g to match pitch
◽ 00:11:681 (30,31,32,33,34) - I would make these into a kddkk, because that is the pattern that 00:11:330 (28,29) - leads into
◾ 00:15:431 (3,4,5) - The first iteration of this pattern (00:07:931 (2,3,4) - ) was dkd, so I suggest making the pattern here ddkd
◽ 00:18:830 - I see why you would invert the pattern here that would have been repeated from before, but I like the pattern from before, with the kd kddkk kkd
◾ 00:22:931 (3,4,5) - Same deal with the same dkd pattern as before, and as well with the other change
◽ 00:44:259 (29,33) - If you really loved people with bad finger control, making these k would be lovely (totally not just because I can't mono well)
◾ 01:03:830 - If you just repeated this pattern at the beginning it would be a lot better than changing it every time, imo

zigi's Oni


◾ 00:04:415 (25) - Move this to 00:04:298 - here (the white tick). It makes more sense to map the first sound of the pattern of two because emphasis and stuff
◽ 00:11:798 - But here you didn't map either of those sounds. Consistency pls (also happens the next time it repeats, and also the last time)
◾ 00:32:892 (45) - Would delete this and make 00:32:775 (44) - a d just to stick with the melody
◽ 00:33:478 - Put a k to map that sound?
◾ 00:36:408 (23) - Delete this note and put a d 00:36:290 - here to match melody
◽ 00:41:798 (52) - Move this note 00:41:915 - here, since it's not really mapped to anything in particular right now
◾ 00:47:775 (88) - Making this a d would carry well in to the next dk pattern
◽ 00:49:064 - Mimick the Inner Oni and put a kd dk here because it fits well and also carries over into the second part of the repeated "owh. octagon." section
◾ Apply the same fixes to the end as I mentioned for the beginning

Nepu's Muzukashii


◾ 00:03:947 (4) - This note has a huge space before it, which actually makes it harder to read. Move it to the white tick, since it makes more sense to map the first part of that noise anyways (repeat at the end of the song as well)
◽ 00:15:314 (38,41) - Deleting these notes would make sense, since it's a muzukashi, and there are no definite noises on those red ticks (repeat for however many times this happens)
◾ Kiai looks fine, maybe a little dense in some of the, well, more dense areas, though.

Ayyri's Futsuu


◾ Maybe my brain is fried from all of the confusing blue tick patterns in the higher diffs, but this looks okay 2 me

SEE's Kantan


◾ The beginning of the kantan should not be harder than the futsuu :( check Ayyri's diff to see what she did
◽ Rest looks fine

ye
zigizigiefe
952 posts
Joined March 2013
zigizigiefe

Nifty wrote:

hi m4m hello

zigi's Oni


◾ 00:04:415 (25) - Move this to 00:04:298 - here (the white tick). It makes more sense to map the first sound of the pattern of two because emphasis and stuff Deleted instead
◽ 00:11:798 - But here you didn't map either of those sounds. Consistency pls (also happens the next time it repeats, and also the last time) Ye
◾ 00:32:892 (45) - Would delete this and make 00:32:775 (44) - a d just to stick with the melody There's something so strong that I can't ignore.
◽ 00:33:478 - Put a k to map that sound? That's not as strong as next one.
◾ 00:36:408 (23) - Delete this note and put a d 00:36:290 - here to match melody Current one is good but changed already
◽ 00:41:798 (52) - Move this note 00:41:915 - here, since it's not really mapped to anything in particular right now That's so strong that I can't ignore, as explained.
◾ 00:47:775 (88) - Making this a d would carry well in to the next dk pattern The sound isn't that weak.
◽ 00:49:064 - Mimick the Inner Oni and put a kd dk here because it fits well and also carries over into the second part of the repeated "owh. octagon." section Applied
◾ Apply the same fixes to the end as I mentioned for the beginning

ye
Thanks for mod

https://zigi.s-ul.eu/c2ZhjDiC
Midnaait
784 posts
Joined April 2012
Topic Starter
Midnaait

Nifty wrote:

hi m4m hello

TOO MANY SIDES Inner Oni


◾ 00:07:228 (47,48) - ctrl-g to match pitch Not changing because 00:06:994 - is the same sound and it's a don, and to emphasize better the next finisher
◽ 00:11:681 (30,31,32,33,34) - I would make these into a kddkk, because that is the pattern that 00:11:330 (28,29) - leads into
◾ 00:15:431 (3,4,5) - The first iteration of this pattern (00:07:931 (2,3,4) - ) was dkd, so I suggest making the pattern here ddkd
◽ 00:18:830 - I see why you would invert the pattern here that would have been repeated from before, but I like the pattern from before, with the kd kddkk kkd I prefer the variety tbh lol
◾ 00:22:931 (3,4,5) - Same deal with the same dkd pattern as before, and as well with the other change
◽ 00:44:259 (29,33) - If you really loved people with bad finger control, making these k would be lovely (totally not just because I can't mono well) This plays well enough imo :thonking:
◾ 01:03:830 - If you just repeated this pattern at the beginning it would be a lot better than changing it every time, imo I only changed it 2 times :?
RIP 4.20*
Thanks for mod :^)
frukoyurdakul
638 posts
Joined December 2015
frukoyurdakul
Hello, M4M req through your queue.

[The Inner Oni that has 8 sides]

00:32:775 - I'd put a 1/8 kkd between these two. The keyboard is weird, the map is weird, hence it could be weirder. (Joke, but there is actually a sound that supports it.)

That's pretty much it. The diff is consistent and well-made, the timing is fine and sounds good.

[zigi's Oni]

Bu diffte bir sıkıntı var. Intro baya zor, 00:07:580 - bu kısımdan sonrası epey bir kolay ona göre, sesler aynı olmasına rağmen. Bence density'i değiştir, intro kolay olsun, ikinci part zor olsun.

00:10:861 (18,19) - d k dan ziyade, dkk ya da ddk öneririm.

00:46:486 (122) - Bence bunu kaldırabilirsin, pattern çok uzun olmuş ve sondaki 00:46:603 (123,124,125) - şu sesler daha iyi vurgulanır.

00:53:869 (167) - ^

01:09:806 - Bununla 01:02:306 - bu consistent değil, birini diğerine çevir.

[Nepu's Muzukashii]

00:03:947 (4) - You can shift this one 1/4 back, on the white tick, to create a simpler rhythm for the beginning.

00:51:642 - I think you can follow the keyboard here, like, starting from 00:51:759 - here 1/2 k k 1/4 kk will fit much better.

01:03:830 - Same situation with 00:03:947

01:11:330 - ^ (or you can put doublets as dk, since there is a huge gap between the previous pattern and the next)

[Ayyri's Futsuu]

00:14:142 - Instead of a 3/1 break, I suggest putting a note here. Making one bit too hard and giving lots of space is not good in my opinion. So, I recommend adding a don here. Also it will be consistent between 00:20:705 (39,40) - those two.

00:57:033 (138,139) - Ctrl + g? You emphasized "oooh" sound with kat on 00:56:330 (136) - here so you can do the same on this as well.

[SEE's Kantan]

The intro conflicts a lot considering difficulty spread rule with Futsuu and Muzukashii. They are pretty simple and this one is too hard, reducing it will be good.

00:22:580 (27) - I recommend a finisher on this. On every other diff, it has a finisher + there are strong sounds that supporting it.

00:30:080 - Considering that it's kiai, I think you can make this a bit hard. Sure it fits with the structure of this difficulty considering breaks and doublets but, making these sections the hardest parts will be good. So, my recommendation will be putting 2/1 breaks maximum and making various patterns. You can use Futsuu as a reference, it has a pretty good rhythms and you can simpify them from it.

01:00:080 - Same difficulty issue with the intro.

Additionally, the background positions of Futsuu and Muzukashii are different compared to Kantan, Oni and Inner Oni. Don't know the exact reason of it but changing it to 0,0,"bg.jpg",0,0 on Futsuu and Muzukashii or 0,0,"bg.jpg",0,-15 on Kantan, Oni and Inner Oni.

I hope my mod helps since I didn't say anything much, but the map is very good and the song choice is... ANOTHER OCTAGON REALLY?

Good luck on the ranking way! :)
zigizigiefe
952 posts
Joined March 2013
zigizigiefe

frukoyurdakul wrote:

Hello, M4M req through your queue.

[zigi's Oni]

Bu diffte bir sıkıntı var. Intro baya zor, 00:07:580 - bu kısımdan sonrası epey bir kolay ona göre, sesler aynı olmasına rağmen. Bence density'i değiştir, intro kolay olsun, ikinci part zor olsun. Keşke updateleseydin, introyu nerflemiştim. dem mid :"U

00:10:861 (18,19) - d k dan ziyade, dkk ya da ddk öneririm. Updatelediğim halinde dkk var :v

00:46:486 (122) - Bence bunu kaldırabilirsin, pattern çok uzun olmuş ve sondaki 00:46:603 (123,124,125) - şu sesler daha iyi vurgulanır. Gösterdiğin yerde güçlü ses var, onun yerine ondan önceki kat'i sildim.

00:53:869 (167) - ^ Yukarıdakinin aynından

01:09:806 - Bununla 01:02:306 - bu consistent değil, birini diğerine çevir. Şimdiki haliyle daha consistent :v

Good luck on the ranking way! :)
<3

https://zigi.s-ul.eu/cfpCj0Ar
streeteelf
439 posts
Joined May 2013
streeteelf

Nifty wrote:

SEE's Kantan


◾ The beginning of the kantan should not be harder than the futsuu :( check Ayyri's diff to see what she did
◽ Rest looks fine
So yea, I changed a little beginning to rhythm Ayrri done, was mapping it (I think) earlier, that's why I didn't knew how Futsuu would look like yet.

frukoyurdakul wrote:

[SEE's Kantan]

The intro conflicts a lot considering difficulty spread rule with Futsuu and Muzukashii. They are pretty simple and this one is too hard, reducing it will be good.

00:22:580 (27) - I recommend a finisher on this. On every other diff, it has a finisher + there are strong sounds that supporting it.

00:30:080 - Considering that it's kiai, I think you can make this a bit hard. Sure it fits with the structure of this difficulty considering breaks and doublets but, making these sections the hardest parts will be good. So, my recommendation will be putting 2/1 breaks maximum and making various patterns. You can use Futsuu as a reference, it has a pretty good rhythms and you can simpify them from it.

01:00:080 - Same difficulty issue with the intro.

Additionally, the background positions of Futsuu and Muzukashii are different compared to Kantan, Oni and Inner Oni. Don't know the exact reason of it but changing it to 0,0,"bg.jpg",0,0 on Futsuu and Muzukashii or 0,0,"bg.jpg",0,-15 on Kantan, Oni and Inner Oni.
Done all, 0.02* more, wow wow xDD And to background, I think 0,0 would be better to have that sign in the middle right covered from top and bottom, so didn't changed it only. Midnaait, it depends on you what will you do with it, I don't mind changing in mine diff position, but only saying that 0,0 IMO is better.

Anyway, thanks for mods :)

Updated diff
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Nifty wrote:

hi m4m hello

Nepu's Muzukashii


◾ 00:03:947 (4) - This note has a huge space before it, which actually makes it harder to read. Move it to the white tick, since it makes more sense to map the first part of that noise anyways (repeat at the end of the song as well) That not where the most important sound lies though.
◽ 00:15:314 (38,41) - Deleting these notes would make sense, since it's a muzukashi, and there are no definite noises on those red ticks (repeat for however many times this happens) My bad changed
◾ Kiai looks fine, maybe a little dense in some of the, well, more dense areas, though. Partly because Zigis oni is pretty dense aswell w
Thanks for the mod!
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Midnaait
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Midnaait

frukoyurdakul wrote:

Hello, M4M req through your queue.

[The Inner Oni that has 8 sides]

00:32:775 - I'd put a 1/8 kkd between these two. The keyboard is weird, the map is weird, hence it could be weirder. (Joke, but there is actually a sound that supports it.) Sound isn't audible enough for me to put a note there rip

That's pretty much it. The diff is consistent and well-made, the timing is fine and sounds good.

I hope my mod helps since I didn't say anything much, but the map is very good and the song choice is... ANOTHER OCTAGON REALLY?

Good luck on the ranking way! :)
About the BG i'll change it dw
Thanks :^
tatatat
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tatatat

[General]

There is somewhat inconsistent use of slider velocities throughout difficulties, the Futsuu and Inner Oni both have 1.6 slider velocity while the other diffs have 1.4. I think the 1.6 slider velocity should only be used in the Kantan/Futsuu to ease new players into reading the lower BPM.
Overall I think that the intro and outro are a little undermapped in the Futsuu and even more so in the Muzukashii. I also think that the intro and outro are overmapped in the Oni.

[Kantan]
01:14:846 (88) - This should probably be a finisher for emphasis + there is a cymbal sound.
Overall very clean Kantan, good job c:

[Futsuu]
Use a little higher object density in the intro and outro?

[Oni]
01:09:806 (11,12,13,14) - I don't think a 4 object stream belongs in the outro. Consider deleting the object at the object at 01:10:040 -
The full sound at (01:09:806 - through 01:10:040 - ) isn't mapped at (01:03:126 - through 01:03:244 - ) or (01:02:306 - through 01:02:540 - ) and overall just isn't mapped consistently.
01:14:845 - Have this object be a finisher for consistency? Its a finisher in the Muzukashii and in the Inner Oni.

I can't help with the Inner Oni at all. I can't play it or try and understand the patterns, sorry. I did check it and make sure you followed the ranking criteria when it comes to finishers at the ends of streams.
Map looks pretty good! Good luck on getting it ranked c:
zigizigiefe
952 posts
Joined March 2013
zigizigiefe

tatatat wrote:

[notice]

[General]

I also think that the intro and outro are overmapped in the Oni. I will check intro and outro later.

[Oni]
01:09:806 (11,12,13,14) - I don't think a 4 object stream belongs in the outro. Consider deleting the object at the object at 01:10:040 -
The full sound at (01:09:806 - through 01:10:040 - ) isn't mapped at (01:03:126 - through 01:03:244 - ) or (01:02:306 - through 01:02:540 - ) and overall just isn't mapped consistently. You know, this part is too repetitive. I used something various. You should've known the difference between consistency and variety.
I will check intro and outro anyways.
01:14:845 - Have this object be a finisher for consistency? Its a finisher in the Muzukashii and in the Inner Oni. Midnaait used finisher after doublet since it's the hardest diff. Nepuri used finisher because there's no doublet there. Even though the song is 128BPM, I don't intend to have a finisher here because I use patterns/objects regardless of BPM.
Thanks for your mod though~
Surono
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Midnaait
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Midnaait

Surono wrote:

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streeteelf
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streeteelf

tatatat wrote:

[Kantan]
01:14:846 (88) - This should probably be a finisher for emphasis + there is a cymbal sound.
Overall very clean Kantan, good job c:
Map looks pretty good! Good luck on getting it ranked c:
IMO there is no strong sound that needs emphasis and if I place finisher there then I have to do it in whole intro and previous 7 (?) notes which will cause "finisher abuse" especially in Kantan.
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