pinhamadeira wrote:

Im a 6 digits (around 250k) my top PP play is 50 and my highest map pass was "9mm Parabellum Bullet - Inferno" agonizing insane.

pinhamadeira wrote:

This was just for you to have a idea of what can I do.

pinhamadeira wrote:

So my question is, is ar10 that hard for other people?
Ive asked this before in osu chat but all people could do is tell me not to ar10.

pinhamadeira wrote:

I know it depends a lot, but since Im on such a low rank and can perfectly read it.

pinhamadeira wrote:

Ive tried ar10(hr) on few maps and didnt had any problems expect on very fast screen jumps, i hitted 2/3. Could play perfectly, but died cause of HP, which ill talk about later on this topic.

pinhamadeira wrote:

As Ive said, i can perfectly read it, and people in #osu said i couldnt acc. Thats true, but my acc on every map is horrible, not because of ar.

pinhamadeira wrote:

So I just wanted to know if is really that hard. I can easily read it and its my favourite AR. Spot, flick, wait, click. And also very easy to HD.
thanks for reading v.v
Edit: ive done a reaction time test and my avg was 0,272

VanillaSandvich wrote:

AR10 in its own isn't really that hard since if you're used to it then it's basically the same as with any other AR, the thing is the maps that use AR 10 are usually pretty hard and are usually challenging stuffs, even in the 6* ranges most maps still use AR 9.5 so there's no real need to rush into being able to do AR 10.

And if you're getting AR 10 through HR, most of the time you're going to be getting OD 10 with it too and trust me if you can't get good acc on most OD 8 maps then good luck even getting 90% on OD 10.

[Taiga] wrote:

First, let's start from my standard rant about you as a player:

1. Your accuracy sucks BUT... ok, you are new player, you learn things... let's pass this out. The point is - osu! is a rhythm game where you are supposed working your ass out to get sky high acc. Standard is around 97-98%, aiming for more is natural reaction for every player who consider itself as a "rhythm game player".

2. Your top ranks are GARBAGE, they are TRASH, complete SHIT. Why you even bother playing maps what you cannot acc, cannot read, cannot tap properly? Where is the logic? Fun? I doubt it. You will get more fun when you quit and go back to other sandbox called FPS where you belong - judging from your top ranks you doesn't belong here. Think about this.

osu! is extremely set up for progression, small steps at the time. This is how you build skill. Play easy -> hard -> hard+/advanced and progress whenever you can efficiently gain scores with AT LEAST 97% acc and very low amount of misses (because everyone can get few on stream or chokes, that is even a thing for top players).

3. You retry way too much. You are in very good situation to just play the game and i mean it - JUST PLAY THIS GAME! Map after map, don't retry, build up skill required to progress, learn the game like you should... or trust me you will quit very soon.

Now let's move to your post:

pinhamadeira wrote:

Im a 6 digits (around 250k) my top PP play is 50 and my highest map pass was "9mm Parabellum Bullet - Inferno" agonizing insane.

Considering that this map with end point choke and 97% acc is ~100pp, this isn't map what you should play.

pinhamadeira wrote:

This was just for you to have a idea of what can I do.

Right now only thing what you can do is mashing keys, being cooky like "I am good" but truth is - you are worse than standard 6-digit who actually came here to play rhythm game and care about proper progression. I saw players around 300-400pp with acc like 95%+ and good nomod / DT/HR easy maps and that's what i call being good at your rank. You are shit.

pinhamadeira wrote:

So my question is, is ar10 that hard for other people?
Ive asked this before in osu chat but all people could do is tell me not to ar10.

AR10 (both, nomod and HR) is definitely not for you. Go back to normal -> hard maps progression. Learn how this game works. Fix your accuracy.

pinhamadeira wrote:

I know it depends a lot, but since Im on such a low rank and can perfectly read it.

Strong words like for 6-digit scrub. There are 4-digit players who claim they cannot read AR10 or have problems with OD10. Hey evben for me as someone who stay at 25k on purpose I claim HR / AR10 is not for me since I am not efficient at gaining high acc + low miss count scores on 5-5.5* maps. Efficient i mean - i download map, I play map, I finish it with required statistics.

pinhamadeira wrote:

Ive tried ar10(hr) on few maps and didnt had any problems expect on very fast screen jumps, i hitted 2/3. Could play perfectly, but died cause of HP, which ill talk about later on this topic.

If i give you 4-5* map and give you requirement to pass it... If you pass it WITHOUT "No Fail", i personally ask peppy to scramble my password to account which means i quit. If not - you go back to playing proper maps and forget about AR10 / HR / DT till you reach proper skillset. Map choice is mine, not even full size long map.

Wanna bet?

pinhamadeira wrote:

As Ive said, i can perfectly read it, and people in #osu said i couldnt acc. Thats true, but my acc on every map is horrible, not because of ar.

Some logic:
Acc is connected to reading since reading is connected to your hand-eye coordination since hand-eye coordination to not missing circles while tapping since tapping require proper understanding of rhythm game and playing TO THE BEAT (peppyTM).

pinhamadeira wrote:

So I just wanted to know if is really that hard. I can easily read it and its my favourite AR. Spot, flick, wait, click. And also very easy to HD.
thanks for reading v.v
Edit: ive done a reaction time test and my avg was 0,272

osu! is not a reaction based game, it's skill based on reading and understanding music flow which contain everything like single taps, streams, bursts, doubles, triples etc etc etc. It's not "Spot, flick, wait, click", this you can do in FPS and apperently you belong there. Please quit this game and don't waste people time UNLESS you actually take this (and others) advice and stop wasting yourself and your time for nothing.

Bye.

[Taiga] wrote:

First, let's start from my standard rant about you as a player:

1. Your accuracy sucks BUT... ok, you are new player, you learn things... let's pass this out. The point is - osu! is a rhythm game where you are supposed working your ass out to get sky high acc. Standard is around 97-98%, aiming for more is natural reaction for every player who consider itself as a "rhythm game player".

2. Your top ranks are GARBAGE, they are TRASH, complete SHIT. Why you even bother playing maps what you cannot acc, cannot read, cannot tap properly? Where is the logic? Fun? I doubt it. You will get more fun when you quit and go back to other sandbox called FPS where you belong - judging from your top ranks you doesn't belong here. Think about this.

osu! is extremely set up for progression, small steps at the time. This is how you build skill. Play easy -> hard -> hard+/advanced and progress whenever you can efficiently gain scores with AT LEAST 97% acc and very low amount of misses (because everyone can get few on stream or chokes, that is even a thing for top players).

3. You retry way too much. You are in very good situation to just play the game and i mean it - JUST PLAY THIS GAME! Map after map, don't retry, build up skill required to progress, learn the game like you should... or trust me you will quit very soon.

Now let's move to your post:

pinhamadeira wrote:

Im a 6 digits (around 250k) my top PP play is 50 and my highest map pass was "9mm Parabellum Bullet - Inferno" agonizing insane.

Considering that this map with end point choke and 97% acc is ~100pp, this isn't map what you should play.

pinhamadeira wrote:

This was just for you to have a idea of what can I do.

Right now only thing what you can do is mashing keys, being cooky like "I am good" but truth is - you are worse than standard 6-digit who actually came here to play rhythm game and care about proper progression. I saw players around 300-400pp with acc like 95%+ and good nomod / DT/HR easy maps and that's what i call being good at your rank. You are shit.

pinhamadeira wrote:

So my question is, is ar10 that hard for other people?
Ive asked this before in osu chat but all people could do is tell me not to ar10.

AR10 (both, nomod and HR) is definitely not for you. Go back to normal -> hard maps progression. Learn how this game works. Fix your accuracy.

pinhamadeira wrote:

I know it depends a lot, but since Im on such a low rank and can perfectly read it.

Strong words like for 6-digit scrub. There are 4-digit players who claim they cannot read AR10 or have problems with OD10. Hey evben for me as someone who stay at 25k on purpose I claim HR / AR10 is not for me since I am not efficient at gaining high acc + low miss count scores on 5-5.5* maps. Efficient i mean - i download map, I play map, I finish it with required statistics.

pinhamadeira wrote:

Ive tried ar10(hr) on few maps and didnt had any problems expect on very fast screen jumps, i hitted 2/3. Could play perfectly, but died cause of HP, which ill talk about later on this topic.

If i give you 4-5* (since you constantly claim you can read AR10 and at this range HR start to be a true Hard Rock - basically OD9.8/OD10) map and give you requirement to pass it... If you pass it WITHOUT "No Fail", i personally ask peppy to scramble my password to account which means i quit. If not - you go back to playing proper maps and forget about AR10 / HR / DT till you reach proper skillset. Map choice is mine, not even full size long map.

Wanna bet?

pinhamadeira wrote:

As Ive said, i can perfectly read it, and people in #osu said i couldnt acc. Thats true, but my acc on every map is horrible, not because of ar.

Some logic:
Acc is connected to reading since reading is connected to your hand-eye coordination since hand-eye coordination to not missing circles while tapping since tapping require proper understanding of rhythm game and playing TO THE BEAT (peppyTM).

pinhamadeira wrote:

So I just wanted to know if is really that hard. I can easily read it and its my favourite AR. Spot, flick, wait, click. And also very easy to HD.
thanks for reading v.v
Edit: ive done a reaction time test and my avg was 0,272

osu! is not a reaction based game, it's skill based on reading and understanding music flow which contain everything like single taps, streams, bursts, doubles, triples etc etc etc. It's not "Spot, flick, wait, click", this you can do in FPS and apperently you belong there. Please quit this game and don't waste people time UNLESS you actually take this (and others) advice and stop wasting yourself and your time for nothing.

Bye.

[Taiga] wrote:

First, let's start from my standard rant about you as a player:

1. Your accuracy sucks BUT... ok, you are new player, you learn things... let's pass this out. The point is - osu! is a rhythm game where you are supposed working your ass out to get sky high acc. Standard is around 97-98%, aiming for more is natural reaction for every player who consider itself as a "rhythm game player".

2. Your top ranks are GARBAGE, they are TRASH, complete SHIT. Why you even bother playing maps what you cannot acc, cannot read, cannot tap properly? Where is the logic? Fun? I doubt it. You will get more fun when you quit and go back to other sandbox called FPS where you belong - judging from your top ranks you doesn't belong here. Think about this.

osu! is extremely set up for progression, small steps at the time. This is how you build skill. Play easy -> hard -> hard+/advanced and progress whenever you can efficiently gain scores with AT LEAST 97% acc and very low amount of misses (because everyone can get few on stream or chokes, that is even a thing for top players).

3. You retry way too much. You are in very good situation to just play the game and i mean it - JUST PLAY THIS GAME! Map after map, don't retry, build up skill required to progress, learn the game like you should... or trust me you will quit very soon.

Now let's move to your post:

pinhamadeira wrote:

Im a 6 digits (around 250k) my top PP play is 50 and my highest map pass was "9mm Parabellum Bullet - Inferno" agonizing insane.

Considering that this map with end point choke and 97% acc is ~100pp, this isn't map what you should play.

pinhamadeira wrote:

This was just for you to have a idea of what can I do.

Right now only thing what you can do is mashing keys, being cooky like "I am good" but truth is - you are worse than standard 6-digit who actually came here to play rhythm game and care about proper progression. I saw players around 300-400pp with acc like 95%+ and good nomod / DT/HR easy maps and that's what i call being good at your rank. You are shit.

pinhamadeira wrote:

So my question is, is ar10 that hard for other people?
Ive asked this before in osu chat but all people could do is tell me not to ar10.

AR10 (both, nomod and HR) is definitely not for you. Go back to normal -> hard maps progression. Learn how this game works. Fix your accuracy.

pinhamadeira wrote:

I know it depends a lot, but since Im on such a low rank and can perfectly read it.

Strong words like for 6-digit scrub. There are 4-digit players who claim they cannot read AR10 or have problems with OD10. Hey evben for me as someone who stay at 25k on purpose I claim HR / AR10 is not for me since I am not efficient at gaining high acc + low miss count scores on 5-5.5* maps. Efficient i mean - i download map, I play map, I finish it with required statistics.

pinhamadeira wrote:

Ive tried ar10(hr) on few maps and didnt had any problems expect on very fast screen jumps, i hitted 2/3. Could play perfectly, but died cause of HP, which ill talk about later on this topic.

If i give you 4-5* (since you constantly claim you can read AR10 and at this range HR start to be a true Hard Rock - basically OD9.8/OD10) map and give you requirement to pass it... If you pass it WITHOUT "No Fail", i personally ask peppy to scramble my password to account which means i quit. If not - you go back to playing proper maps and forget about AR10 / HR / DT till you reach proper skillset. Map choice is mine, not even full size long map.

Wanna bet?

pinhamadeira wrote:

As Ive said, i can perfectly read it, and people in #osu said i couldnt acc. Thats true, but my acc on every map is horrible, not because of ar.

Some logic:
Acc is connected to reading since reading is connected to your hand-eye coordination since hand-eye coordination to not missing circles while tapping since tapping require proper understanding of rhythm game and playing TO THE BEAT (peppyTM).

pinhamadeira wrote:

So I just wanted to know if is really that hard. I can easily read it and its my favourite AR. Spot, flick, wait, click. And also very easy to HD.
thanks for reading v.v
Edit: ive done a reaction time test and my avg was 0,272

osu! is not a reaction based game, it's skill based on reading and understanding music flow which contain everything like single taps, streams, bursts, doubles, triples etc etc etc. It's not "Spot, flick, wait, click", this you can do in FPS and apperently you belong there. Please quit this game and don't waste people time UNLESS you actually take this (and others) advice and stop wasting yourself and your time for nothing.

Bye.

Hiro-Senpai wrote:

Holy Taiga, thats some dank truth right there
If i wasn't so late to this party i would do exactly the same thing as you did
But the difference i would get dicked on afterwards by other players :V

[Taiga] wrote:

Hiro-Senpai wrote:

Holy Taiga, thats some dank truth right there
If i wasn't so late to this party i would do exactly the same thing as you did
But the difference i would get dicked on afterwards by other players :V

Doesn't matter, I give this guy max 3 months and he is gone from this game, for good.
He actually doesn't want to improve and play a rhythm game so let him be...
Answering to this topic is just waste of time.

N0thingSpecial wrote:

If it's easy you don't need to try hard :thinking:

Edit: I just asked if it normal to read ar10 at my level. If is not, its a point i can improve and be good in. If u come to threads to say stupid stuff, u can leave. And if u seen my profile so much, u could see i took breaks from osu. I dont play for Fc or for ss. i play whatever im feeling like going to and have fun doing it. Get a life.

[Taiga] wrote:

Edit: I just asked if it normal to read ar10 at my level. If is not, its a point i can improve and be good in. If u come to threads to say stupid stuff, u can leave. And if u seen my profile so much, u could see i took breaks from osu. I dont play for Fc or for ss. i play whatever im feeling like going to and have fun doing it. Get a life.

You got detailed answer of everything what you should know - check.
So now mr. smart:

Your brake from osu is a lie:


Joined 3 months ago, played all this time, I don't see a single break here.

If you play just for playing, don't come to forum with this kind of question and expectation from people to be on your side. If you come here, you need to deal with criticism, often harsh, that's how it works since nature of newbs is to spam maps what are not for them.

Now... bye, have fun. Don't expect people to tell you something what isn't true. If answer doesn;t satisfy and you still want someone to tell you like to "prince" what you expect - get the fuck out.

What I meant was getting good acc. Someone playing just for fun wont waste their time getting 100% on a song.

That graph isnt accurate as you might think, Yes, i had breaks, 2-3 weeks. If u dont belive look at my rank graph. But whatever, im used to this kind of rtard ppl¯\_(ツ)_/¯

kai99 wrote:

ar10 at 650 pp phshshshshshhshshhshhhhshhshhhhh in eed some popcorn

[Taiga] wrote:

What I meant was getting good acc. Someone playing just for fun wont waste their time getting 100% on a song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKGO3WEgspQ - single play... many players who care about improvement do this kind of plays. Right now i proved you it's possible to get high acc with one, single play of map.

That graph isnt accurate as you might think, Yes, i had breaks, 2-3 weeks. If u dont belive look at my rank graph. But whatever, im used to this kind of rtard ppl¯\_(ツ)_/¯

It is accurate since it updates each time when you login into game. Stop lying to us and to yourself.

[Taiga] wrote:

What I meant was getting good acc. Someone playing just for fun wont waste their time getting 100% on a song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKGO3WEgspQ - single play... many players who care about improvement do this kind of plays. Right now i proved you it's possible to get high acc with one, single play of map.

That graph isnt accurate as you might think, Yes, i had breaks, 2-3 weeks. If u dont belive look at my rank graph. But whatever, im used to this kind of rtard ppl¯\_(ツ)_/¯

It is accurate since it updates each time when you login into game. Stop lying to us and to yourself.

Sandy Hoey wrote:

Does seem like it the way you got triggered when the only thing I said was your ac doesnt reflect good plays...

Taiga, leave the poor man alone. He clearly doesnt have thick skin

pinhamadeira wrote:

TL;DR
I stopped at the point u called me shit.
Dude. srsly, if u have nothing to say, just dont.
You see? i told u what i wanted directly without using stupid or retarded words.
That was a waste of time, cya.
Edit: I just asked if it normal to read ar10 at my level. If is not, its a point i can improve and be good in. If u come to threads to say stupid stuff, u can leave. And if u seen my profile so much, u could see i took breaks from osu. I dont play for Fc or for ss. i play whatever im feeling like going to and have fun doing it. Get a life.
goodbye once again

[Taiga] wrote:

Ok then, here we go:

Rules:
1. You are not allowed to use "No Fail" mod
2. You are supposed to use Hard Rock
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/290040. Not a single edit on a map
4. You can use HD if you want
5. You provide replay file - in score screen you hit F2, go to your /osu/Replays folder and upload replay from this map - this will be a proof for everyone here.
6. Only score screen doesn't count - read point 5

https://osu.ppy.sh/b/454158 - Insane diff

Kiciuk wrote:

pinhamadeira wrote:

TL;DR
I stopped at the point u called me shit.
Dude. srsly, if u have nothing to say, just dont.
You see? i told u what i wanted directly without using stupid or retarded words.
That was a waste of time, cya.
Edit: I just asked if it normal to read ar10 at my level. If is not, its a point i can improve and be good in. If u come to threads to say stupid stuff, u can leave. And if u seen my profile so much, u could see i took breaks from osu. I dont play for Fc or for ss. i play whatever im feeling like going to and have fun doing it. Get a life.
goodbye once again

Its normal that you can read ar10 .
But first thing is that u cannot perfectly read it.
Second thing is that playing high AR isnt good for you.
I made same mistake and now i cannot pass stupid hards/insanes because i move too fast so i miss on most patterns where i should be bit slower for few secs.
And ofc if you play with HR you need very high accurancy to gain pp compared to NC for example.

Comfy Slippers wrote:

Personally speaking, AR10 is like hell. And as someone who has been playing for 2 years I can confirm this w/o a doubt in my mind. Experience >>> skill, argument-wise. This taiga guy is a bully, don't let it get to you. I was moved by your speech, and now I am having inner conflicts over how bad I actually am. Don't let anybody talk down your skill level, cause it's impressive af.

Hiro-Senpai wrote:

He even dares to have Rafis on his profile pic

Burn such people, burn!

Sayorie wrote:

Hi OP, welcome to G&R.

If it's your first time asking for help here, here are some guidelines and reminders to reduce any butthurt or hard feelings which may arise during your stay here.

1. Oh you're posting? How about searching for older but similar threads first? If the problem is the same, expect the same answers. If you feel like you're getting crap replies, it's because it's been posted too many times already and we're sick of answering the same questions.

2. Get off your high horse. Don't be righteous and defend yourself--you're asking for help, so get all the insight and advice you can.

3. Someone said you're trash? Maybe it's true. If you're not trash then you shouldn't be asking shit you don't know. Everyone's trash here, but 'trash' is subjective. I suggest taking that remark as a motivation for improvement. At least you'll become less trashy than before.

4. Sick of "play more"? Fuck off, play more. This is a skill-based game, and playing more is the most important aspect for improvement. If it doesn't help you, then it's as simple as ignoring that pair of words.

Good luck OP, have a nice day.

Hiro-Senpai wrote:

It is so funny to read this thread where the op tries to act all cocky like he is the master of the game
saying that you can become a good player without acc and denying all the statements of other players
Which makes him look even more stupid

He even dares to have Rafis on his profile pic

Burn such people, burn!

kai99 wrote:

wait, op, try this with HR, this is a lower star level than what was suggested above.

https://osu.ppy.sh/b/134447

N0thingSpecial wrote:

Well it's confirmed you're not really here for advice since you're well aware of your weakness, if getting your dick sucked by people who thinks you can read ar10 is what you are here for, then G&R is not a place for you.

Sayorie wrote:

Hi OP, welcome to G&R.

If it's your first time asking for help here, here are some guidelines and reminders to reduce any butthurt or hard feelings which may arise during your stay here.

1. Oh you're posting? How about searching for older but similar threads first? If the problem is the same, expect the same answers. If you feel like you're getting crap replies, it's because it's been posted too many times already and we're sick of answering the same questions.

2. Get off your high horse. Don't be righteous and defend yourself--you're asking for help, so get all the insight and advice you can.

3. Someone said you're trash? Maybe it's true. If you're not trash then you shouldn't be asking shit you don't know. Everyone's trash here, but 'trash' is subjective. I suggest taking that remark as a motivation for improvement. At least you'll become less trashy than before.

4. Sick of "play more"? Fuck off, play more. This is a skill-based game, and playing more is the most important aspect for improvement. If it doesn't help you, then it's as simple as ignoring that pair of words.

Good luck OP, have a nice day.

pinhamadeira wrote:

Well constantly saying im shit wont help. I may be, but it doesnt help.

Sayorie wrote:

pinhamadeira wrote:

Well constantly saying im shit wont help. I may be, but it doesnt help.

Hi OP, welcome to the internet.

If it's your first time here, expect to get shit on by people you don't know.

You don't have to take those insults to heart, you know?

kai99 wrote:

wait, op, try this with HR, this is a lower star level than what was suggested above.

https://osu.ppy.sh/b/134447

Kiciuk wrote:

kai99 wrote:

wait, op, try this with HR, this is a lower star level than what was suggested above.

https://osu.ppy.sh/b/134447

Old mapping+HR=hell.

Seems like OP like simillar maps to me.
So.
I will give u some nice ones for HR ^_^
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/528155
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1053802
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/911847
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/788121
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/148831
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/674080
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/681950
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/139153

https://osu.ppy.sh/b/619291 +DT
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/204439