According to the ranking criteria, metadata of songs in this game should all stick to official references. If you ever find an official site stating the song having an alias of CV instead of cv, please let us know.
Original name: 「天色＊アイルノーツ」キャラクターソングVol.4 大好きなんだ
Artists: Masaki Gaillard (CV: Kiritani Hana), Shirley Warwick (CV: Kitami Rikka), Amagiri Yune (CV: Toyota Sera), Shiraga Airi (CV: Natsuno Koori)
Lyricist: Nakayama♥Mami (Angel Note)
Composer: Famishin (Yuzusoft)
Arranger: Shinohara Mizuki (Angel Note)
Release date: May 31, 2013
Catalog number: YSCD-0030
Format: MPEG-1 Layer 3
Sample rate: 44100 Hz
Compression level: MP3 LAME V0
http://www.yuzu-soft.com/ja/post/5692/%E7%9C%9F%E5%92%B2+%E3%82%AB%E3%82%99%E3%82%A4%E3%83%A4+%E3%83%AB.htmlThis is not the alias of the song, it's a character introduction.
Image 1 and Image 2 (Sources: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvclwsR ... .be&t=1m7s and https://auctions.c.yimg.jp/images.aucti ... s28489.jpg)These are the only official sources so far (i.e. the rar you have posted). So, you are obliged to stick to it, no matter how the other unofficial references show.
Can't believe someone can be in this much denial when given straight out facts. This is some next-level tin-foil hat.
Asuka_ wrote:but I can not judge that should use whitch by myself because there are official sites, not official websites, sites that I do not know whether it is official or not.
That is a horrible example as if "mistakes have never been made" before. I checked both threads and no one mentioned "cv" on either at all they seem to just went long with it. Your information is beyond worthless compared to mine. Prove that they are not mistakes? Since they are ranked it should be easy right? Official METADATA and not front-side of the CD cover. Very weak argument.
IamKwan wrote:You also mentioned design mistake, how can you prove it? I mean, there are also some other songs which use small letters instead of big ones in their artists, like this one or this one. There is basically no way to verify and what you said is thus pretty much worthless.
Why would yuzusoft give false information to ALL retail sites because there is NO store so far that have been selling the CD under the metadata info with "cv". And the fields are in japanese? You can even buy the song from Amazon.jp and get official metadata SAME as mine?
IamKwan wrote:Amazon and all the other third party retail sites (also the mp3 file, I supposed you downloaded them online? Fields are not even in Japanese?) are not official, so they have zero value on justifying usage of CV in the Artist. Shitty or not shitty is not the matter to judge the accuracy of metadata, correctness is the officality in this game, not based on the usual / common practice. What the official says has the highest priority.
I don't know if you are blind? Maybe? This is the whole album info on a JAPANESE Amazon, and fields are in JAPANESE? Buy the god damn album maybe and check for yourself and see yourself waste 450 yen to prove yourself wrong. https://www.amazon.co.jp/s/ref=ntt_srch ... ch-type=ss Image
IamKwan wrote:Amazon and all the other third party retail sites (also the mp3 file, I supposed you downloaded them online? Fields are not even in Japanese?) are not official
That is the stupidest thing you've said so far (maybe? you might have said worse things before). If frontside of cover is credible and official reference a.k.a "source" for being the title. Then why the hell is the backside not?
IamKwan wrote:Let me repeat again, the cover is definitely the only credible and official reference showing the current artist, all your justifications and what you linked are unfortunately untenable because none of them falls into the category of official references.
Since IamKwan and Asuka_ don't seem to understand what metadata is neither the meaning of the word "OFFICIAL", please some other BN/QAT to check out proofs and decide. They consider their frontside of CD cover to be official song information metadata, while I give retail info, official backside of the CD and the official ASL CD download metadata info, they are still somehow in denial.This is the current level of ignorance I see from this mod and mapper. and currently I am very frustrated about this situtation I didn't think people could have this little understanding.
Their proofs of official title being "cv": Frontside of Cover. And YouTube video stylized font. Image 1 and Image 2
My proofs of official title being "CV":
Retails selling the CD with metadata GIVEN BY YUZUSOFT. http://www.suruga-ya.jp/product/detail/302064229001
https://www.amazon.co.jp/%E5%A4%A9%E8%8 ... B06VT4CCDH
https://pc.dwango.jp/portals/album/2642 ... o=official
Official Amazon product (Album) with info that must have come from Yuzusoft https://www.amazon.co.jp/s/ref=ntt_srch ... ch-type=ss
Barcode/QR-code to buy the official album (Which redirects to retails selling it as CV:). 4560100333805
Scans of the fcking CD (Inside, frontside, backside, everyfcking thing). http://puu.sh/vPZQR/ee1172c75d.rar
BACKSIDE OF THE CD COVER WHICH IS USUALLY CORRECTED FROM STYLIZED FRONT-SIDE. https://i.ppy.sh/5c682d54e78932a96ee870 ... 312e6a7067
Ephemeral said that "CV" is reasonable, so I will follow it.
I wrote:I understand that "CV" should be given priority in cases where both "CV" and "cv" are present.
In this case, I think that "CV" is probably correct.
Let's finish the discussion.
Alveryn wrote:But the most convincing and real proof is the fact that I got the backside (you can even Barcode-scan it) and as I suspected IT HAS CV! Which disproves all your false accusations of "being on the cover means it's the official way to write" as we can see it's corrected here in the BACKSIDE.
None of the songs here is the exact same song as 大好きなんだ? They are some other songs.
Alveryn wrote:If you think retail site such as Amazon is "not official" why not use my other 3490312471941 sources I linked? For example, the Backside and Barcode?? Why are you mentioning only Amazon as if it's my only reference?
You are trying very hard to make my post as invalid as possible by ignoring all the important parts. And the fact that you are awaiting IamKwan who's just as much in denial as you, he will obviously say no, you guys don't care about the facts you just want me to be wrong.
First, The backside barcode image does not indicate any songs namely 大好きなんだ. Second, you can't prove neither the official frontside image being incorrect nor using "cv" as a stylistic choice. Thus, I don't agree discussion is over. Please do not pop in and end our discussion suddenly. Please.
Ephemeral wrote:"CV" is the correct metadata given from Alveryn's assertions and associated proof via the backside barcode image. Though the front side denotes "cv", acronym use is traditionally purely in uppercase (ie: CV) and the official frontside image is either incorrect or uses "cv" as a stylistic choice.
In respect to the common nomenclature and official metadata, "CV" is plainly the right choice for this particular case and needs no further discussion from either party, though I would encourage both of you to be more civil in your discussions in the future, even if such things can be rather frustrating at times.
This is by far the weakest argument you've had so far. Yes you are right, the song is not stated there on the backside, but do you notice how there are 3 other songs? (Vol 1, Vol 2, Vol 3)
IamKwan wrote:None of the songs here is the exact same song as 大好きなんだ? They are some other songs.
I have pretty much repeated many times that we have to stick with the exact alias for this exact song. I am also not against you on this matter but judging everything based on facts and rules.
Original name: 「天色＊アイルノーツ」キャラクターソングVol.3 アオゾラキャンバス
Artists: Shiraga Airi (CV: Natsuno Koori), Shirley Warwick (CV: Kitami Rikka), Amagiri Yune (CV: Toyota Sera), Masaki Gaillard (CV: Kiritani Hana)
Lyricist: kala (Angel Note)
Composer: Famishin (Yuzusoft)
Arranger: Inohara Satoru (Angel Note)
Release date: May 17, 2013
Catalog number: YSCD-0029
Original name: 「天色＊アイルノーツ」キャラクターソングVol.2 私だけの空
Artists: Amagiri Yune (CV: Toyota Sera), Shirley Warwick (CV: Kitami Rikka), Shiraga Airi (CV: Natsuno Koori), Masaki Gaillard (CV: Kiritani Hana)
Lyricist: Riryka (Angel Note)
Composer: Famishin (Yuzusoft)
Arranger: Shiranui Tsubasa (Angel Note)
Release date: April 19, 2013
Catalog number: YSCD-0028
I just did, just read the text above. And also this does not justify making yours any more valid. If we both can't prove which one is correct format, why should we use yours? QAT powers wins? Luckily, I've won so that's not an issue.
IamKwan wrote:You can't prove neither the official frontside image being incorrect nor using "cv" as a stylistic choice
This is kind of true. This would be true if there was maybe one or two sites that used incorrect format, but in this case EVERY retail, website, torrent, backside, store uses CV as if they were given CV as album information? I mean you can CLEARLY see that it says "cv" on the frontside, but album information given to these companies says CV? Why are they all using CV, there must be some retail that sells it in the metadata of "cv"? Is it just a coincidence that all companies are wrong?
IamKwan wrote:Amazon and other retail stores are not treated as official reference for a while because they have already given us so many incorrect metadata examples in recent years. When there are direct materials released from the official, why do we bother to follow those unofficial third party information outside? If you need examples, I can grab some for you.