Masaki Gaillard (cv: Kiritani Hana) - Daisuki Nanda

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Morroni
Hi, a little mod how I can
[Easy]
  1. 00:12:521 (3) - maybe delete it? sounds better
  2. 00:37:833 (3) - I don't know if it is good idea, but you can try to replace this with one circle or something similar for more interesting souind

[Normal]
  1. 00:11:771 (6,7) - replace with slider?
  2. 00:30:146 (6) - sounds better without it
  3. 01:48:146 (6) - ^
  4. 02:00:146 (6) - ^

[Hard]
  1. 00:00:896 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - maybe you can make this through more interesting patterns for eyes?
  2. 00:03:896 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - ^
  3. 00:06:896 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - ^
  4. 00:46:833 (3,4,1) - a bit hard to aim for semi-newbies, I think... this little jump to slider is more suitable for kiai-time
  5. 00:51:896 (1) - you can start this from a circle and then from spinner... too hearable place


I can't mod Light Insane and Insane because I can't find something wrong there. You can just make them more readable (DS, overlaps and so on)
Very nice work, good luck!
Topic Starter
Asuka_-

Venix wrote:

Hello! From queue~

[Easy]
  1. 00:42:896 (1,2,3) - Flow between these objects can be a bit more smoother like you did on similar patterns. What are you think about something like http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8005883 this. It should works better, because transition 00:42:896 (1,2) - here will be circular and comforable and 00:44:396 (3) - this slier will continue it well. changed
  2. 01:38:396 (3,4) - What are you think about changing these shapes to others, like http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8005902 this to obtain better music fitting, because 01:38:396 - here you've a bit other kind of rythm. It will works for aesthetics aswell, because by this you'll avoid 4x the same slider, which is a bit boring. littele change
  3. 01:42:896 (1,2) - Here you've small antiflow. What are you think about CTRL+H on 01:42:896 (1) - (like you did it 01:57:896 (1,2) - here) this slider. It should works better. keep for now.


[Insane]
  1. 00:11:583 (2,3,4) - I think this spacing is a bit unlogical, because you don't emphasised the most important ryth here. You should emphasise 00:11:958 (4) - this circle by increasing spacing (Like you did it 00:37:833 (1,2,3) - here), because this rythm is the strongest here and it's need it. little change
  2. 00:39:333 - I think you can get here nice aesthetics visual by moving 00:39:333 (4) - this circle a bit to up to make blanket with 00:39:521 (1,2,3,4,1) - this stream, like this. http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8006010 nice
  3. 01:01:458 (3,4) - You should increase spacing here, because rythm is not that light like you emphasised it. You can do it easily by 01:01:458 (3) - moving this circle a bit to right, because in comparsion 01:01:083 (2,3) - this spacing seems overspaced. okay


Ok! That's all from me, good luck~!
Thanks!!!!!!!
Topic Starter
Asuka_-

Morroni wrote:

Hi, a little mod how I can
[Easy]
  1. 00:12:521 (3) - maybe delete it? sounds better no
  2. 00:37:833 (3) - I don't know if it is good idea, but you can try to replace this with one circle or something similar for more interesting souind desuyone

[Normal]
  1. 00:11:771 (6,7) - replace with slider? keep for now
  2. 00:30:146 (6) - sounds better without it emphasize key sound
  3. 01:48:146 (6) - ^
  4. 02:00:146 (6) - ^

[Hard]
  1. 00:00:896 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - maybe you can make this through more interesting patterns for eyes? hm... remove stack?? xD
  2. 00:03:896 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - ^
  3. 00:06:896 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - ^
  4. 00:46:833 (3,4,1) - a bit hard to aim for semi-newbies, I think... this little jump to slider is more suitable for kiai-time llittle changed
  5. 00:51:896 (1) - you can start this from a circle and then from spinner... too hearable place no


I can't mod Light Insane and Insane because I can't find something wrong there. You can just make them more readable (DS, overlaps and so on) I'll check
Very nice work, good luck!
Thanks!!
Lami
diff name

light insane => insane
insane => custom diff name or etc // insaneより expert難易度に近いですかも

normal

00:27:333 (6) - このnoteをここで00:27:146 - 運んでください

hard

00:13:271 (2,4,1) - 00:14:958 (3,5,1,2) - 、etc.... unsnap
00:38:771 (1,2) - hardでは 3/4は読むのが大変かも知りません
01:00:802 (5) - 01:12:802 (5) - overmapped、特にbeatがないので、敢えてnoteを使うのはよくないと思います
01:06:896 (1,2) - このよに急なjumpは避けてください。hardのjumpは基本的には問題ないですが、全体的にjumpみたいのがないので
特別な音がないばしょうでのjumpは不自然です。
01:07:083 (2) - ・・ ここに 01:07:271 - vocalもあるし、beatもあるので、1/1sliderを1/2rhythmで返してください。
01:14:021 (5,1) - blanket
01:38:396 - 強いbeatをskipするのはなんか変な感じがします
02:07:271 (2,3,4) - DSがビジュアルてきに一致しません。ここと比べれば...(02:20:958 (3,4) - )


light Insane

00:19:646 (3,4,5) - 、00:21:521 (5,6) - 、00:43:458 (4,5) - 、00:49:458 (4,5) - 、01:17:958 (3,4) - ... etc
rhythm自体が理解できないのではないですが、insane diffにある同じpartと比べれば、insaneより もっと きついrhythmを 使っています。
light insaneが 下位難易度という点で、rhythmを 上位難易度よりsimpleにするのも考え見るほうもいいと思います。

00:12:333 - Rhythmの Gapが 長すぎると 感じるので、1/4sliderもいいとおもいます。
00:38:208 (6) - ほかのdiffでは ただのnoteだったのに...(特にhard diffより rhythmがないです。)
01:21:896 (1,2) - make smaller ds、insaneを参考して...(2)はよわいbeat、(3)はつよいbeat、dsも beatの強さを表現すろほうが
いいと思います。

Insane

00:06:521 - hitsoundがmusicと似合わないですね
00:14:021 (5,6) - (6)にあまり強い音がないので、ここでのjumpは気まずい感じdesu
00:30:521 (8) - 、02:00:521 (1) - 一致しないnc rule。
00:39:052 (2,3) - ・00:38:771 (1,2) - dsが 小さいので、3/4は読みづらいです
このsnareみたいな 音よりは(00:52:927 (5) - )、このdrumがある この部分が 00:53:302 - 重要と思います。
01:05:771 (3,4) - ええ、this jump is too big
01:28:646 (3) - ctrl+g
01:44:771 (3,4) - same ^
01:20:396 - だいたい、音楽がdrumで成っているので、mappingするほうがいいとおもいます。
01:24:427 (5) - 01:30:427 (5) - overmapped

personally think, would be better if you recheck how to use your rhythm usage. gl
defiance
Hello there!

[General]

the "cv" should be capitalized so it's "CV"

[Easy]

00:41:396 (3,4) - i honestly think you should curve these a little more or just leaving them straight

00:48:896 (1,4) - i feel like these two should be somewhat similar, they might not be expressing same sound, but it doesn't look that great aesthetically

02:02:958 (5,1) - the entry to 5-1 could be better and more linear imo

[Normal]

00:27:333 (6,1) - this looks realllly ugly, i would ctrl + > and fix ds

00:34:458 (2) - i would make this a 1/2 slider because you are missing the important sound on the white tick

00:36:896 (1,2,3) - this still kinda looks ugly imo, maybe move 3 around x:469 y:37 to make it have like a diagonal flow downwards, it looks better

01:41:208 (3,4) - i would just make 4 go along with the flow of 3

[Hard]

lemme start off with some ds errors

01:07:083 (2,3) -

01:07:646 (3,4) -

02:20:958 (3,4) -

onto the actual map

00:12:896 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - all of this is very confusing. you start off with drums then do the vocals and then back to drums? 00:14:396 - is an important beat i think you should map and overall the rhythm should be more clear

00:23:677 (2,3) - i'd probably just stack these on the end of 1 cause that's very irregularly spaced for a hard

00:33:802 - there's a note here

00:51:427 - and here

01:07:083 (2) - you seem to be mapping vocals here? but i think a reverse slider would work better

01:18:521 (5,6,7) - reverse slider because hard players aren't very good at playing somewhat awkward rhythm

01:37:271 (3,4) - this overlap would look a lot better if you curved 4 some more

02:03:802 - a note here

i'm not very good with light insanes so i'll just skip it

[Insane]

00:12:521 (2,3,1) - the flow here is very weird, i understand you are trying to do a different type of flow, but introducing it like this isn't very intuitive

00:14:583 (1,2,3) - i would try and make these as equal as you can

00:57:521 (5) - i was expecting this slider to be ctrl+g

01:44:677 (2) - overmapped?

02:10:083 (2,3) - this distance is WAYYYYYYYYY too far and it's at a very awkward angle, i'd reduce the distance and make the flow more comfy


good luck
Topic Starter
Asuka_-

Lami wrote:

diff name

light insane => insane
insane => custom diff name or etc // insaneより expert難易度に近いですかも
LightInsaneを削除したので、Insaneはこのままでいきますー

normal

00:27:333 (6) - このnoteをここで00:27:146 - 運んでください

hard

00:13:271 (2,4,1) - 00:14:958 (3,5,1,2) - 、etc.... unsnap
00:38:771 (1,2) - hardでは 3/4は読むのが大変かも知りません 確かに。。 でも少し保留で。
01:00:802 (5) - 01:12:802 (5) - overmapped、特にbeatがないので、敢えてnoteを使うのはよくないと思います
01:06:896 (1,2) - このよに急なjumpは避けてください。hardのjumpは基本的には問題ないですが、全体的にjumpみたいのがないので
特別な音がないばしょうでのjumpは不自然です。
01:07:083 (2) - ・・ ここに 01:07:271 - vocalもあるし、beatもあるので、1/1sliderを1/2rhythmで返してください。
01:14:021 (5,1) - blanket
01:38:396 - 強いbeatをskipするのはなんか変な感じがします
02:07:271 (2,3,4) - DSがビジュアルてきに一致しません。ここと比べれば...(02:20:958 (3,4) - )


light Insane

00:19:646 (3,4,5) - 、00:21:521 (5,6) - 、00:43:458 (4,5) - 、00:49:458 (4,5) - 、01:17:958 (3,4) - ... etc
rhythm自体が理解できないのではないですが、insane diffにある同じpartと比べれば、insaneより もっと きついrhythmを 使っています。
light insaneが 下位難易度という点で、rhythmを 上位難易度よりsimpleにするのも考え見るほうもいいと思います。

00:12:333 - Rhythmの Gapが 長すぎると 感じるので、1/4sliderもいいとおもいます。
00:38:208 (6) - ほかのdiffでは ただのnoteだったのに...(特にhard diffより rhythmがないです。)
01:21:896 (1,2) - make smaller ds、insaneを参考して...(2)はよわいbeat、(3)はつよいbeat、dsも beatの強さを表現すろほうが
いいと思います。

Insane

00:06:521 - hitsoundがmusicと似合わないですね
00:14:021 (5,6) - (6)にあまり強い音がないので、ここでのjumpは気まずい感じdesu
00:30:521 (8) - 、02:00:521 (1) - 一致しないnc rule。
00:39:052 (2,3) - ・00:38:771 (1,2) - dsが 小さいので、3/4は読みづらいです
このsnareみたいな 音よりは(00:52:927 (5) - )、このdrumがある この部分が 00:53:302 - 重要と思います。
01:05:771 (3,4) - ええ、this jump is too big
01:28:646 (3) - ctrl+g
01:44:771 (3,4) - same ^
01:20:396 - だいたい、音楽がdrumで成っているので、mappingするほうがいいとおもいます。
01:24:427 (5) - 01:30:427 (5) - overmapped

personally think, would be better if you recheck how to use your rhythm usage. gl
Nice mod!!
Thanks!
Topic Starter
Asuka_-

osuskrub wrote:

Hello there!

[General]

the "cv" should be capitalized so it's "CV" no

[Easy]

00:41:396 (3,4) - i honestly think you should curve these a little more or just leaving them straight

00:48:896 (1,4) - i feel like these two should be somewhat similar, they might not be expressing same sound, but it doesn't look that great aesthetically

02:02:958 (5,1) - the entry to 5-1 could be better and more linear imo

keep

[Normal]

00:27:333 (6,1) - this looks realllly ugly, i would ctrl + > and fix ds

00:34:458 (2) - i would make this a 1/2 slider because you are missing the important sound on the white tick

00:36:896 (1,2,3) - this still kinda looks ugly imo, maybe move 3 around x:469 y:37 to make it have like a diagonal flow downwards, it looks better

01:41:208 (3,4) - i would just make 4 go along with the flow of 3

[Hard]

lemme start off with some ds errors

01:07:083 (2,3) -

01:07:646 (3,4) -

02:20:958 (3,4) -

onto the actual map

00:12:896 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - all of this is very confusing. you start off with drums then do the vocals and then back to drums? 00:14:396 - is an important beat i think you should map and overall the rhythm should be more clear

00:23:677 (2,3) - i'd probably just stack these on the end of 1 cause that's very irregularly spaced for a hard

00:33:802 - there's a note here

00:51:427 - and here

01:07:083 (2) - you seem to be mapping vocals here? but i think a reverse slider would work better

01:18:521 (5,6,7) - reverse slider because hard players aren't very good at playing somewhat awkward rhythm

01:37:271 (3,4) - this overlap would look a lot better if you curved 4 some more

02:03:802 - a note here

i'm not very good with light insanes so i'll just skip it

[Insane]

00:12:521 (2,3,1) - the flow here is very weird, i understand you are trying to do a different type of flow, but introducing it like this isn't very intuitive

00:14:583 (1,2,3) - i would try and make these as equal as you can

00:57:521 (5) - i was expecting this slider to be ctrl+g

01:44:677 (2) - overmapped?

02:10:083 (2,3) - this distance is WAYYYYYYYYY too far and it's at a very awkward angle, i'd reduce the distance and make the flow more comfy


good luck
Thanks"
Topic Starter
Asuka_-
LIがびみょいので、削除。
InsaneとHardを軽く修正して、spread的に問題がないようにしました。

bn req
hyouri
Well do as you want then because "cv" is blatantly wrong, since you also don't seem to know what CV even stands for. Your References/Sources for "cv" are only, and only written in the design formats (which clearly is a mistake, probably due to the font), no RAW/plain text.

My images are official, since they are from YOUR sources?

I don't know how to explain this simpler but:
Your sources (Designed, Bold-text, Green bad font) are mistakes in production/design, not OFFICIAL notations. -> https://auctions.c.yimg.jp/images.aucti ... s28489.jpg

My sources (Raw, plain-text, correct format, not-designed) are corrected and done in the right way without design limitations. Saying your fail-design "cv" is correct is false af. ->
http://www.yuzu-soft.com/ja/post/5692/% ... 83%AB.html (This part: https://puu.sh/vORDD/76a3ce3e7e.jpg which YOU sent? Like can't you see it?)
Even google search of song title shows 99% of the answers to have "CV" and not "cv", it's like writing "adhd" instead of "ADHD" it's nothing but mistake and poor english. https://www.google.co.jp/search?q=Masak ... itani+Hana)+-+Daisuki+Nanda&oq=Masaki+Gaillard+(cv%3A+Kiritani+Hana)+-+Daisuki+Nanda&aqs=chrome..69i57.1807j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

You can't take a design image text and use that as "proof" of being "official", you need the Raw text. Many thing are written differently when designed (Logo's for example) yet are written in a different way when shown in plain text.

If that even was "IamKwan"'s image [https://auctions.c.yimg.jp/images.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/image/dr000/auc0212/users/3/6/9/1/hiper_77-img600x450-1482073792ul04zs28489.jpg] (probably not?) ask him to read the backside for the plain-text name of songs rather than a failed design bold text in green.

Your only references seem to be the garbage-designed text on CD https://puu.sh/vORLa/0b7f1038cc.jpg and SAME FONT in videos, but no plain/raw text which I have shown plenty of.

BN please dont bubble until you have fixed this mistake
Time Capsule
@Alveryn Please don't make something that actually just a piece of dot on paper become a novel. If it does really annoy you I suggest you to just leave (will really appreciate it tho lol). Peoples have their own prespective about stuff and yes, its not wrong to critized or even point out their mistake. but please keep in mind this sentence because it was so doesn't mean it was so . Restricted a map to not get check by others is just "meh". In simple way, if bn does point out again about CV or cv usage, he will prolly fix it immidiently. if NOT just let what it be. Thanks and have a good day

ps. this is not discussion forum, its mod one
hyouri

Time Capsule wrote:

@Alveryn Please don't make something that actually just a piece of dot on paper become a novel. If it does really annoy you I suggest you to just leave (will really appreciate it tho lol). Peoples have their own prespective about stuff and yes, its not wrong to critized or even point out their mistake. but please keep in mind this sentence because it was so doesn't mean it was so . Restricted a map to not get check by others is just "meh". In simple way, if bn does point out again about CV or cv usage, he will prolly fix it immidiently. if NOT just let what it be. Thanks and have a good day

ps. this is not discussion forum, its mod one
No idea who you are or why you getting involved, you seem to be more concern as if this is drama rather than a debate. Since you are not a forum mod or even bother to check any of our facts (info) in the posts, you are being more irrelevant than US politics in this thread. Get your feelings out of here no one cares, I'm here to mod and want this map to get ranked with correct information.

And most BN's/QAT don't bother caring or are simply too lazy to care about such tiny title mistakes since we've seen these happen to get ranked before so I'm here to convince the mapper to get it correct, if you don't like it, put on your tinfoil hat and ignore my posts. Or if you go as far as getting triggered, feel free to report my posts.
Topic Starter
Asuka_-
Im not good at english. sorry.

Even though "CV" is written on the official website, if "cv" is written in the official CD and CD introduction, I think that "cv" should be used preferentially. (I do not know if it is a design font, but obviously small letters)

Alveryn wrote:

Your sources (Designed, Bold-text, Green bad font) are mistakes in production/design, not OFFICIAL notations. -> https://auctions.c.yimg.jp/images.aucti ... s28489.jpg
Does that mean that the notation of the CD is incorrect?
You might think that it is wrong.
However, since the production side says "cv", we should use "cv" regardless of whether it is wrong or not wrong.

Alveryn wrote:

My sources (Raw, plain-text, correct format, not-designed) are corrected and done in the right way without design limitations. Saying your fail-design "cv" is correct is false af. ->
http://www.yuzu-soft.com/ja/post/5692/% ... 83%AB.html (This part: https://puu.sh/vORDD/76a3ce3e7e.jpg which YOU sent? Like can't you see it?)
I already replied to this matter.

Alveryn wrote:

Even google search of song title shows 99% of the answers to have "CV" and not "cv", it's like writing "adhd" instead of "ADHD" it's nothing but mistake and poor english. https://www.google.co.jp/search?q=Masak ... itani+Hana)+-+Daisuki+Nanda&oq=Masaki+Gaillard+(cv%3A+Kiritani+Hana)+-+Daisuki+Nanda&aqs=chrome..69i57.1807j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
Non-official sites are also displayed in google search.
Generally, "CV" is used, so I think that "CV" is used on informal sites.
e.g. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itDhg5HEJfg (Your previous reference)

Alveryn wrote:

You can't take a design image text and use that as "proof" of being "official", you need the Raw text. Many thing are written differently when designed (Logo's for example) yet are written in a different way when shown in plain text.
I do not think that it is necessary.
I think they use the keyboard when They make character design of video and images.
If they want to make it "CV", they just have to type "CV".
However, it is written as "cv".
Is there a rule that we should not use letters on images, videos?


I think should use "cv".
But You think should use "CV".
We have grounds to each other and we probably will not reach the answer by us alone.
The opinion of a third party is necessary to solve this discussion.
so please acknowledge that there is a post of a third party.

Discussion
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To be honest, It is not sticking to "cv" separately. xd
but i can not agree with your opinion for now.
If you present a convincing reference, I will change it immediately.


Alveryn wrote:

BN please dont bubble until you have fixed this mistake
If it gets the state of qualified, QAT will be checked so we know which is right.
Your this remark is really uncomfortable and not really constructive.

im checking to IamKwan

Edit : fix my English.
IamKwaN
According to the ranking criteria, metadata of songs in this game should all stick to official references. If you ever find an official site stating the song having an alias of CV instead of cv, please let us know.
hyouri
I don't care how good or bad your English is, that's irrelevant. It's common sense and correct grammar to use capital letters for abbreviations.

All I'm saying (and I don't know how you can not understand this) is that your source is wrong, you are using only ONE source and that is the CD image cover font.

Image 1 and Image 2 (Sources: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvclwsR ... .be&t=1m7s and https://auctions.c.yimg.jp/images.aucti ... s28489.jpg)

They both use same shitty green failed design and misleading font, which is still wrong. You should use RAW/Plain text as source, and not stylized font. As I stated earlier "Many thing are written differently when designed (Logo's for example) yet are written in a different way when shown in plain text. "


I checked even deeper and found more sources using CV a.k.a the official yuzusoft Amazon retail. And also the whole album.

More sources: Mysound is a popular japanese site to buy official songs here's the article and yes it's using CV. http://mysound.jp/song/3154965/
More: http://www.suruga-ya.jp/product/detail/302064229001
http://music-book.jp/music/Artist/870080/Album/aaa63au0
https://www.amazon.co.jp/%E5%A4%A9%E8%8 ... B06VT4CCDH
https://pc.dwango.jp/portals/album/2642 ... o=official
Random blog post? Even this says CV: http://blog.sina.com.cn/s/blog_b0d77c7a0101a3d0.html

Also all album information I've sound so far (official or not) have said to have CV instead of cv. The only thing showing a hint of CV is nothing but that badly designed green text font.
ALBUM INFORMATION
Original name: 「天色*アイルノーツ」キャラクターソングVol.4 大好きなんだ
Artists: Masaki Gaillard (CV: Kiritani Hana), Shirley Warwick (CV: Kitami Rikka), Amagiri Yune (CV: Toyota Sera), Shiraga Airi (CV: Natsuno Koori)
Lyricist: Nakayama♥Mami (Angel Note)
Composer: Famishin (Yuzusoft)
Arranger: Shinohara Mizuki (Angel Note)
Release date: May 31, 2013
Catalog number: YSCD-0030
Publisher: Yuzusoft

AUDIO INFORMATION
Format: MPEG-1 Layer 3
Channels: 2
Sample rate: 44100 Hz
Compression level: MP3 LAME V0
And I even have a ASL (CD-RIP) with official scans and release information and it says same as the code above.

But the most convincing and real proof is the fact that I got the backside (you can even Barcode-scan it) and as I suspected IT HAS CV! Which disproves all your false accusations of "being on the cover means it's the official way to write" as we can see it's corrected here in the BACKSIDE

Actually if you QR/Barcode scan it it will redirect to Amazon but the article has been removed (it's only in Japanese Amazon).
The article number is: 4560100333805 and if you google it you will get mostly the CD purchase: https://www.google.se/search?q=45601003 ... e&ie=UTF-8
http://www.getchu.com/soft.phtml?id=769308
http://mnrate.com/item/aid/B00CQWK82K

At this point it's nothing but false and being delusional if you think the official art designed font of the COVER http://puu.sh/vPXiQ/c425e6f1da.jpg is valid use of a title. English is not well-known in Japan and it's not uncommon for companies to make mistakes about things especially when shipping to an non-Japanese audience. All I'm saying is, it's a design mistake. And you can't even admit it. Read this Wiki page on Abbreviations if you want to understand why it's CV and not cv grammatically correct. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abbreviation

The scans: http://puu.sh/vPZQR/ee1172c75d.rar
Official Windows MP3 file info (unedited): https://puu.sh/vPZTG/9534a95c87.png

I win.
Topic Starter
Asuka_-
I am very glad that you provided some reference.

to be honest, There was a part that seemed to be true.

but I can not judge that should use whitch by myself because there are official sites, not official websites, sites that I do not know whether it is official or not.

I will leave it to IamKwan's judgment.
Thanks.

Please do not send me strange image by forumPM.
I do not understand the meaning of that action. Is it harassment?
IamKwaN
http://www.yuzu-soft.com/ja/post/5692/%E7%9C%9F%E5%92%B2+%E3%82%AB%E3%82%99%E3%82%A4%E3%83%A4+%E3%83%AB.html
This is not the alias of the song, it's a character introduction.

Image 1 and Image 2 (Sources: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvclwsR ... .be&t=1m7s and https://auctions.c.yimg.jp/images.aucti ... s28489.jpg)
These are the only official sources so far (i.e. the rar you have posted). So, you are obliged to stick to it, no matter how the other unofficial references show.

Amazon and all the other third party retail sites (also the mp3 file, I supposed you downloaded them online? Fields are not even in Japanese?) are not official, so they have zero value on justifying usage of CV in the Artist. Shitty or not shitty is not the matter to judge the accuracy of metadata, correctness is the officality in this game, not based on the usual / common practice. What the official says has the highest priority.

You also mentioned design mistake, how can you prove it? I mean, there are also some other songs which use small letters instead of big ones in their artists, like this one or this one. There is basically no way to verify and what you said is thus pretty much worthless.

Let me repeat again, the cover is definitely the only credible and official reference showing the current artist, all your justifications and what you linked are unfortunately untenable because none of them falls into the category of official references.

Frankly speaking, I am stunned that you consider yourself winning (on such pretty things lol) provided that you do not even have a thorough view on the ranking criteria and how metadata works in this game. I would not say "I win." but I hope you grab at least some very basic knowledge on this matter.

@Asuka_-: send me the forum PM they sent you, let's see what I can do.
hyouri

Asuka_ wrote:

but I can not judge that should use whitch by myself because there are official sites, not official websites, sites that I do not know whether it is official or not.
Can't believe someone can be in this much denial when given straight out facts. This is some next-level tin-foil hat.

@IamKwan I like how you completely ignored the fact that I provided the Barcode/QR for the CD. All "metadata" info that you guys have is the frontside of the CD, and also a video with same font. I use same source but from the back and you consider it "not right"? What the actual ????

Meanwhile I have backside of the CD, Barcode/QR (for all retail sites), other sources showing CV. You still think frontside stylized (or mistaked) CD counts as official metadata? What the f***?

IamKwan wrote:

You also mentioned design mistake, how can you prove it? I mean, there are also some other songs which use small letters instead of big ones in their artists, like this one or this one. There is basically no way to verify and what you said is thus pretty much worthless.
That is a horrible example as if "mistakes have never been made" before. I checked both threads and no one mentioned "cv" on either at all they seem to just went long with it. Your information is beyond worthless compared to mine. Prove that they are not mistakes? Since they are ranked it should be easy right? Official METADATA and not front-side of the CD cover. Very weak argument.

IamKwan wrote:

Amazon and all the other third party retail sites (also the mp3 file, I supposed you downloaded them online? Fields are not even in Japanese?) are not official, so they have zero value on justifying usage of CV in the Artist. Shitty or not shitty is not the matter to judge the accuracy of metadata, correctness is the officality in this game, not based on the usual / common practice. What the official says has the highest priority.
Why would yuzusoft give false information to ALL retail sites because there is NO store so far that have been selling the CD under the metadata info with "cv". And the fields are in japanese? You can even buy the song from Amazon.jp and get official metadata SAME as mine?

IamKwan wrote:

Amazon and all the other third party retail sites (also the mp3 file, I supposed you downloaded them online? Fields are not even in Japanese?) are not official
I don't know if you are blind? Maybe? This is the whole album info on a JAPANESE Amazon, and fields are in JAPANESE? Buy the god damn album maybe and check for yourself and see yourself waste 450 yen to prove yourself wrong. https://www.amazon.co.jp/s/ref=ntt_srch ... ch-type=ss Image

You don't seem to know what "official" is, your front-side lable is ONLY stylized or failed design garbage and I have pointed that out many times. Metadata is what the official COMPANY send out to the retail stores to give accurate metadata on what songs, artist etc are involved.

IamKwan wrote:

Let me repeat again, the cover is definitely the only credible and official reference showing the current artist, all your justifications and what you linked are unfortunately untenable because none of them falls into the category of official references.
That is the stupidest thing you've said so far (maybe? you might have said worse things before). If frontside of cover is credible and official reference a.k.a "source" for being the title. Then why the hell is the backside not?

If we even assume "cv" is correct, why in the HELL is every company that sells the album/song label it as "CV:"? And why does the backside of the CD cover say CV? It's basic fcking English. Why is Facebook spelled "facebook" on logo but official company name is "Facebook"? It's only for the design.
I have even sent e-mail to yuzusoft asking for the metadata and awaiting response.

TL;DR FOR OTHER BN/QAT

Since IamKwan and Asuka_ don't seem to understand what metadata is neither the meaning of the word "OFFICIAL", please some other BN/QAT to check out proofs and decide. They consider their frontside of CD cover to be official song information metadata, while I give retail info, official backside of the CD and the official ASL CD download metadata info, they are still somehow in denial.

Their proofs of official title being "cv": Frontside of Cover. And YouTube video stylized font. Image 1 and Image 2

My proofs of official title being "CV":
Retails selling the CD with metadata GIVEN BY YUZUSOFT. http://www.suruga-ya.jp/product/detail/302064229001
http://music-book.jp/music/Artist/870080/Album/aaa63au0
https://www.amazon.co.jp/%E5%A4%A9%E8%8 ... B06VT4CCDH
https://pc.dwango.jp/portals/album/2642 ... o=official
http://blog.sina.com.cn/s/blog_b0d77c7a0101a3d0.html
Official Amazon product (Album) with info that must have come from Yuzusoft https://www.amazon.co.jp/s/ref=ntt_srch ... ch-type=ss
Barcode/QR-code to buy the official album (Which redirects to retails selling it as CV:). 4560100333805
Scans of the fcking CD (Inside, frontside, backside, everyfcking thing). http://puu.sh/vPZQR/ee1172c75d.rar
BACKSIDE OF THE CD COVER WHICH IS USUALLY CORRECTED FROM STYLIZED FRONT-SIDE. https://i.ppy.sh/5c682d54e78932a96ee870 ... 312e6a7067
This is the current level of ignorance I see from this mod and mapper. and currently I am very frustrated about this situtation I didn't think people could have this little understanding.

And if you QAT/BN decide to go with opinions over fact, please deny my Kudosu for this map and I don't want to be part of the modding/mapping community anymore since facts don't matter anymore neither does Ranking Criteria apparently.
Ephemeral
"CV" is the correct metadata given from Alveryn's assertions and associated proof via the backside barcode image. Though the front side denotes "cv", acronym use is traditionally purely in uppercase (ie: CV) and the official frontside image is either incorrect or uses "cv" as a stylistic choice.

In respect to the common nomenclature and official metadata, "CV" is plainly the right choice for this particular case and needs no further discussion from either party, though I would encourage both of you to be more civil in your discussions in the future, even if such things can be rather frustrating at times.
Topic Starter
Asuka_-
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Topic Starter
Asuka_-
@Ephemeral, Alveryn
Can we use a mail-order site such as Amazon as reference of meta?
Although it may be provided from the official, I think that there is no evidence of it.

I understand that "CV" should be given priority in cases where both "CV" and "cv" are present.
In this case, I think that "CV" is probably correct.

Let's finish the discussion.

If there is no opinion from IamKwan, I will change it.

edit : My information is not reliable. sorry.
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