Some IRC before setting a piano icon
14:12 Tofu1222: Hi juan 'w')/
14:13 Tofu1222: first i really wanna thank you for pushing my mapset to beatmap spotlight. I am so excited XD
14:24 Tofu1222: and btw what's your opinion on my request? =w=
14:27 juankristal: heyo
14:27 juankristal: and you are welcome, that map was pretty fun so you deserve it
14:28 juankristal: about your map I have seen the hardest difficulty on it
14:28 juankristal: and besides minor improvements that could be done about it I am kinda bothered by the main burst on it
14:28 juankristal: I feel it doesnt really fit the theme of the map so we will likely have to work on it
14:29 Tofu1222: do u mean the one before the kiai?
14:30 Tofu1222: i remember it is true that i put one really annoying burst on that part, which was done on my own. But I wasnt sure that it fitted. actually i dont mind to delete it and just make it to LNs.
14:30 juankristal: lemme see it again
14:31 Tofu1222: ok
14:31 juankristal: 00:54:685 (54685|2,54822|2,54913|2) - that would be the main thing
14:32 Tofu1222: oh yea
14:32 juankristal: spread-wise it is a bit of a complicated thing as well given the hard is just LNs instead
14:32 juankristal: so in my opinion the patterns have to be as easy as possible if it uses 1/8s
14:32 Tofu1222: actually i can get rid of this whole burst and replace them with LNs too
14:32 Tofu1222: i used to do that
14:33 Tofu1222: but actually i was thinking about making some difference
14:33 juankristal: thats up to you really, I feel we can work on that burst to make it better
14:33 Tofu1222: if we can make it better then i would like to keep this =w=
14:33 juankristal: alright
14:34 juankristal: try something like this: http://puu.sh/x0GRS/b45b2a13db.png
14:35 juankristal: that way you have 1/8 more space in between the jack on the 4th column and the last note before that 4th column
14:35 juankristal: makes it easier to read and to play overall, at least in my opinion
14:36 juankristal: after that you could also move 00:55:095 (55095|3) - this one one spot to the left so you dont have the player to get confused after that minijack in the 4th column
14:37 Tofu1222: yep this looks really better
14:37 Tofu1222: yea
14:37 Tofu1222: fixed owo
14:37 juankristal: owob
14:38 juankristal: alright so lets see the rest
14:40 Tofu1222: yep
14:40 Tofu1222: i was adjusting hitsound
14:43 juankristal: the hitsounds lag my pc quite hard
14:43 juankristal: its funny
14:44 Tofu1222: really? ;w;
14:44 juankristal: yeah, my pc is really old
14:44 juankristal: so when I toggle the hitsounds on it lags
14:44 juankristal: xD
14:44 Tofu1222: rip ;w;
14:44 juankristal: so about the map again
14:44 juankristal: I am curious of this 00:28:004 (28004|1,28185|2,28367|1,28549|2,28731|1,28913|2,29095|1,29276|2) -
14:44 juankristal: is it intended?
14:45 Tofu1222: for the pitch, cuz the piano repeated for G #G G #G kinda like that
14:45 Tofu1222: is that fitting?
14:46 juankristal: oooo
14:46 juankristal: storyboard hitsounds
14:46 juankristal: okey
14:46 juankristal: I didnt notice that
14:47 juankristal: the only thing that kinda bugs me a bit about that is 00:29:095 (29095|1) - this one
14:47 juankristal: it extends the trill a bit longer than the song so its a bit unintuitive
14:47 juankristal: but I guess its alright
14:47 juankristal: it requires a lot of stuff to change it I think and its not really worth it
14:48 Tofu1222: oh i see
14:51 juankristal: mmh
14:51 juankristal: map is pretty fine tbh
14:51 juankristal: 00:55:822 (55822|1,56004|2) - about this ones
14:51 juankristal: I think this sort of jack 00:55:640 (55640|1,55822|1) - is sutiable for voice so if thats the case then the next one should be 00:56:004 (56004|2,56185|3) - those
14:51 juankristal: if that makes sense
14:51 juankristal: instead of this ones00:55:822 (55822|2,56004|2) -
14:52 Tofu1222: can u screenshot?
14:52 Tofu1222: i kinda confused qwq
14:53 juankristal: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8754041 like this
14:53 juankristal: so you have this 00:55:640 (55640|3,55822|3) - which follows the "tatto" voice
14:54 juankristal: and 00:56:004 (56004|1,56185|1) - thats the kimi
14:54 Tofu1222: yea
14:55 juankristal: unless your focus is on something else that I might not be seeing
14:55 Tofu1222: nice idea =w=
14:56 Tofu1222: i focus on pitch for this whole kiai, the pitch for the vocal, which can be represented by the piano HS
14:57 Tofu1222: i guess this seems obvious owo
14:57 juankristal: yeah
14:57 juankristal: but maybe the idea was to follow the pitch of the piano :thinking:
14:58 Tofu1222: the piano hitsound is actually the vocal XD
14:58 juankristal: xD
15:01 Tofu1222: oh i should also change this part right 01:07:276 -
15:01 Tofu1222: it is the same thing as before
15:01 juankristal: yup
15:01 juankristal: I was looking at it actualyl
15:05 juankristal: could you update it?
15:05 juankristal: I feel a bit lost already XD
15:06 Tofu1222: yea
15:06 Tofu1222: but i kinda changed a lot about kiai for the pitch just now
15:07 juankristal:
15:07 Tofu1222: i was kinda want to follow more tightly about pitch, but that will create some anchors qwq
15:07 juankristal: anchors arent necesarily bad
15:08 Tofu1222: i have to restart to update qwq
15:08 juankristal: wow
15:10 Tofu1222: updated
15:11 juankristal: owob
15:11 Tofu1222: i changed the first half of kiai part, the second one, if u approved the first half, can follow that
15:13 juankristal: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8754204
15:13 juankristal: 00:58:731 -
15:13 juankristal: I think that is probably better
15:13 juankristal: first 2 jacks are for the "ega" "o o"
15:13 juankristal: or whatever is that
15:14 juankristal: 00:59:640 - and for this one I dont really think it deserves such long anchor
15:14 juankristal: because there is no voice in there
15:14 Tofu1222: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8754213
15:14 Tofu1222: what i do is this
15:15 juankristal: mmh
15:15 Tofu1222: like four F
15:15 juankristal: I understand why is it like that but I think the sound is not as predominant as it is on here for example01:00:913 (60913|2,61095|2,61276|2,61458|2,61640|2) -
15:15 Tofu1222: so put on same column ;w;
15:16 juankristal: its similar to this 00:56:367 (56367|3,56549|0,56731|3,56913|0) -
15:16 juankristal: the sound is not as predominant so its not needed to use it as anchors
15:17 juankristal: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8754238 something kinda similar in here
15:19 Tofu1222: yep
15:19 Tofu1222: i fixed that in your way
15:19 Tofu1222: its better
15:19 Tofu1222: owo
15:19 Tofu1222: 01:00:913 (60913|2,61095|2,61276|2,61458|2,61640|2) - tho i kinda think that this anchor is understandable?
15:20 juankristal: yes
15:20 juankristal: that anchor is fine
15:20 juankristal: it works well as a transition as well
15:21 juankristal: its harder to understand if you play without hitsounds but if you play with them is quite easy to notice it before it takes place
15:21 Tofu1222: i agree lol
15:22 juankristal: for the second part of the kiai tho
15:22 juankristal: I think its cool to have like a mixed theme
15:22 juankristal: so it doesnt have to be exactly the same thing
15:23 Tofu1222: oh?
15:23 juankristal: stuff like 01:07:276 (67276|3,67458|3) -
15:23 juankristal: 01:07:640 (67640|2,67822|1) -
15:23 juankristal: should stay consistent tho
15:23 juankristal: what I mean is, those vocal jacks should stay consistent
15:23 juankristal: but you can play around the patterns a bit
15:23 Tofu1222: oh i see owo
15:23 juankristal: doesnt have to be replicated as the first part completely
15:24 juankristal: you could take a different focus on parts like 01:08:004 - up to 01:08:913 -
15:24 juankristal: something that focus maybe on the bass or maybe more to the kicks
15:24 juankristal: you can also as well just keep it vocal anyways, but those are things you could do
15:25 juankristal: since it transitioned already you have the opportunity to make a change on that type but once you do it you have to remain it consistent up until the end of the kiai/next transition
15:27 Tofu1222: i should first make a foundation of the vocal i guess
15:29 juankristal: up to you
15:29 Tofu1222: yep i have kinda finished
15:30 juankristal: alright
15:30 juankristal: dunno how much time it takes to you for update stuff
15:30 juankristal: if you want we can move to the other diffs first
15:30 juankristal: 01:24:549 (84549|1,84731|2,84731|0,84913|1,85095|2,85095|0,85276|1,85458|0,85458|2,85640|1,85822|0,85822|2) - not a fan of this one in the hardest diff either
15:32 Tofu1222: changed
15:32 Tofu1222: yea lets go to normal owo
15:34 juankristal: mmmh
15:34 juankristal: the normal is actually hard
15:34 juankristal: hah
15:35 Tofu1222: yea
15:35 juankristal: wait
15:35 juankristal: 00:06:428 (6428|0,6670|1) -
15:35 juankristal: why are those snaps different than easy
15:35 juankristal: 00:12:276 (12276|3,12549|2) - same here
15:37 Tofu1222: what do u think of them
15:37 Tofu1222: i guess they should all be 1/3?
15:37 juankristal: i mean
15:37 juankristal: yeah
15:37 juankristal: snap them correctly in the normal
15:37 Tofu1222: k
15:37 juankristal: for the easy we will see, if it turns out to be too hard we will simplify it
15:40 juankristal: mmmh
15:40 juankristal: we probably have to quite some balance for the spread
15:40 Tofu1222: yea
15:41 Tofu1222: for highest diff there seems be also some problem about that
15:41 Tofu1222: and have to adjust hitsound again
15:41 juankristal: hardest diff gap with hard is fine I think
15:41 juankristal: main issue is normal with easy
15:41 juankristal: and normal with hard being almost the same difficulty
15:42 juankristal: http://puu.sh/x0JJD/55f3da0548.osu
15:42 juankristal: wait
15:42 juankristal: thats the easy
15:42 juankristal: I wanted to send the normal
15:42 juankristal: http://puu.sh/x0JKH/5456653e4a.osu
15:42 juankristal: so, there is the normal where I made a few changes that I think would balance the spread a little bit
15:42 juankristal: so tell me what you think about it
15:42 Tofu1222: oh thanks! owo
15:42 juankristal: I changed from here 00:24:367 -
15:43 juankristal: up until here 00:36:004 -
15:43 juankristal: but that should give you an idea of what I think we should be following
15:43 juankristal: in order to balance the spread out
15:45 Tofu1222: yea i see your idea
15:46 Tofu1222: but whenever normal is nerfed, hard should be nerfed too right?
15:46 juankristal: mmh, maybe
15:46 juankristal: depends on how much we nerf the normal
15:46 Tofu1222: ok
15:49 juankristal: 00:49:276 -
15:49 juankristal: this pattern is weird
15:49 juankristal: like, what does it follow'
15:50 Tofu1222: ahh, that one
15:50 Tofu1222: so00:50:004 (50004|1,50367|2) -
15:50 Tofu1222: these two for the trumpet
15:50 Tofu1222: 00:49:822 (49822|0,50185|3) -
15:50 Tofu1222: these two
15:51 Tofu1222: for the sound that is same as 00:48:185 (48185|2,48549|3) - this kind
15:52 juankristal: mmmh
15:52 juankristal: I was thinking on something like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8754491
15:53 juankristal: like, I get what you follow but it doesnt feel intuitive
15:53 juankristal: thats because you were using 1/2 LNs during the previous section all the way
15:53 juankristal: and then everything turns into 1/2 LNs but the trumpet arent really that impactful I think
15:53 juankristal: but thats because the voice in the middle
15:53 juankristal: so people would get confused with the voice and the trumpet so then they will find that pattern weird to understand
15:54 juankristal: so the way I pictured its so you emphasys the trumpets so its harder to get lost on it
15:55 Tofu1222: yep
15:55 Tofu1222: fixed owo
15:57 juankristal: so now the kiai
16:02 juankristal: alright
16:02 juankristal: http://puu.sh/x0KDV/a0498bce0c.osu
16:03 juankristal: that contains an edited version of the kiai with again, same way like the last time
16:03 Tofu1222: gosh i nerfed to 1.86*
16:03 Tofu1222:
16:03 juankristal: I put it down to 2,02
16:03 juankristal: we were both doing the same thing xD
16:04 juankristal: although, you should probably not pay much attention to star rating
16:04 juankristal: its usually a bad indicator for sprads
16:04 juankristal: *spreads
16:07 Tofu1222: ahh, maybe let me update it and u take a look?
16:08 juankristal: sounds fair
16:14 Tofu1222: updated
16:15 juankristal: so, the problem with your nerf is
16:16 juankristal: that the gap on hard and normal now is a bit too big xD
16:16 Tofu1222: i know XD. I wanna kind of nerfing hard too but yea, I will inform emiria, cuz gap between hard and manga isnt that big
16:17 Tofu1222: hard can be like 2.5-2.7
16:17 Tofu1222: XD
16:17 juankristal: I like what you did in the kiai tho
16:17 juankristal: its a big gap on easy for the kiai but welp
16:18 juankristal: not that big of a deal
16:18 juankristal: so, lets do it this way
16:18 juankristal: you talk with emiria about this spread issue and check the edited version I sent to you
16:18 juankristal: once you figure out what you want to do with the normal and fixed stuff with emilia call me back and I will place the piano icon
16:19 juankristal: and once you get confirmation from a STD bn then we rank it
16:19 juankristal: sounds fine?
16:19 Tofu1222: yep
16:19 Tofu1222: nice XD
16:19 Tofu1222: btw can u send me again?
16:19 juankristal: sure
16:19 Tofu1222: I restarted
16:19 juankristal: http://puu.sh/x0KDV/a0498bce0c.osu
16:20 Tofu1222: thanks!
16:20 Tofu1222: post this on the thread?
16:20 juankristal: yeah, I will
16:20 Tofu1222: our recore
16:20 Tofu1222: ok
16:20 Tofu1222: XD
16:20 juankristal: also, its probably better for you to contact a tier 2 std bn
16:20 juankristal: since I cant place hearts on STD hybrids
16:20 juankristal: I can only place bubbles
16:20 juankristal: and a tier 1 cant place hearts on it either
16:20 Tofu1222: that's true
16:21 juankristal: so pick carefuly your bn x)
16:21 Tofu1222: I have contacted chaoslitz to check the std diff
16:21 juankristal: oh thats goodf
14:13 Tofu1222: first i really wanna thank you for pushing my mapset to beatmap spotlight. I am so excited XD
14:24 Tofu1222: and btw what's your opinion on my request? =w=
14:27 juankristal: heyo
14:27 juankristal: and you are welcome, that map was pretty fun so you deserve it
14:28 juankristal: about your map I have seen the hardest difficulty on it
14:28 juankristal: and besides minor improvements that could be done about it I am kinda bothered by the main burst on it
14:28 juankristal: I feel it doesnt really fit the theme of the map so we will likely have to work on it
14:29 Tofu1222: do u mean the one before the kiai?
14:30 Tofu1222: i remember it is true that i put one really annoying burst on that part, which was done on my own. But I wasnt sure that it fitted. actually i dont mind to delete it and just make it to LNs.
14:30 juankristal: lemme see it again
14:31 Tofu1222: ok
14:31 juankristal: 00:54:685 (54685|2,54822|2,54913|2) - that would be the main thing
14:32 Tofu1222: oh yea
14:32 juankristal: spread-wise it is a bit of a complicated thing as well given the hard is just LNs instead
14:32 juankristal: so in my opinion the patterns have to be as easy as possible if it uses 1/8s
14:32 Tofu1222: actually i can get rid of this whole burst and replace them with LNs too
14:32 Tofu1222: i used to do that
14:33 Tofu1222: but actually i was thinking about making some difference
14:33 juankristal: thats up to you really, I feel we can work on that burst to make it better
14:33 Tofu1222: if we can make it better then i would like to keep this =w=
14:33 juankristal: alright
14:34 juankristal: try something like this: http://puu.sh/x0GRS/b45b2a13db.png
14:35 juankristal: that way you have 1/8 more space in between the jack on the 4th column and the last note before that 4th column
14:35 juankristal: makes it easier to read and to play overall, at least in my opinion
14:36 juankristal: after that you could also move 00:55:095 (55095|3) - this one one spot to the left so you dont have the player to get confused after that minijack in the 4th column
14:37 Tofu1222: yep this looks really better
14:37 Tofu1222: yea
14:37 Tofu1222: fixed owo
14:37 juankristal: owob
14:38 juankristal: alright so lets see the rest
14:40 Tofu1222: yep
14:40 Tofu1222: i was adjusting hitsound
14:43 juankristal: the hitsounds lag my pc quite hard
14:43 juankristal: its funny
14:44 Tofu1222: really? ;w;
14:44 juankristal: yeah, my pc is really old
14:44 juankristal: so when I toggle the hitsounds on it lags
14:44 juankristal: xD
14:44 Tofu1222: rip ;w;
14:44 juankristal: so about the map again
14:44 juankristal: I am curious of this 00:28:004 (28004|1,28185|2,28367|1,28549|2,28731|1,28913|2,29095|1,29276|2) -
14:44 juankristal: is it intended?
14:45 Tofu1222: for the pitch, cuz the piano repeated for G #G G #G kinda like that
14:45 Tofu1222: is that fitting?
14:46 juankristal: oooo
14:46 juankristal: storyboard hitsounds
14:46 juankristal: okey
14:46 juankristal: I didnt notice that
14:47 juankristal: the only thing that kinda bugs me a bit about that is 00:29:095 (29095|1) - this one
14:47 juankristal: it extends the trill a bit longer than the song so its a bit unintuitive
14:47 juankristal: but I guess its alright
14:47 juankristal: it requires a lot of stuff to change it I think and its not really worth it
14:48 Tofu1222: oh i see
14:51 juankristal: mmh
14:51 juankristal: map is pretty fine tbh
14:51 juankristal: 00:55:822 (55822|1,56004|2) - about this ones
14:51 juankristal: I think this sort of jack 00:55:640 (55640|1,55822|1) - is sutiable for voice so if thats the case then the next one should be 00:56:004 (56004|2,56185|3) - those
14:51 juankristal: if that makes sense
14:51 juankristal: instead of this ones00:55:822 (55822|2,56004|2) -
14:52 Tofu1222: can u screenshot?
14:52 Tofu1222: i kinda confused qwq
14:53 juankristal: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8754041 like this
14:53 juankristal: so you have this 00:55:640 (55640|3,55822|3) - which follows the "tatto" voice
14:54 juankristal: and 00:56:004 (56004|1,56185|1) - thats the kimi
14:54 Tofu1222: yea
14:55 juankristal: unless your focus is on something else that I might not be seeing
14:55 Tofu1222: nice idea =w=
14:56 Tofu1222: i focus on pitch for this whole kiai, the pitch for the vocal, which can be represented by the piano HS
14:57 Tofu1222: i guess this seems obvious owo
14:57 juankristal: yeah
14:57 juankristal: but maybe the idea was to follow the pitch of the piano :thinking:
14:58 Tofu1222: the piano hitsound is actually the vocal XD
14:58 juankristal: xD
15:01 Tofu1222: oh i should also change this part right 01:07:276 -
15:01 Tofu1222: it is the same thing as before
15:01 juankristal: yup
15:01 juankristal: I was looking at it actualyl
15:05 juankristal: could you update it?
15:05 juankristal: I feel a bit lost already XD
15:06 Tofu1222: yea
15:06 Tofu1222: but i kinda changed a lot about kiai for the pitch just now
15:07 juankristal:
15:07 Tofu1222: i was kinda want to follow more tightly about pitch, but that will create some anchors qwq
15:07 juankristal: anchors arent necesarily bad
15:08 Tofu1222: i have to restart to update qwq
15:08 juankristal: wow
15:10 Tofu1222: updated
15:11 juankristal: owob
15:11 Tofu1222: i changed the first half of kiai part, the second one, if u approved the first half, can follow that
15:13 juankristal: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8754204
15:13 juankristal: 00:58:731 -
15:13 juankristal: I think that is probably better
15:13 juankristal: first 2 jacks are for the "ega" "o o"
15:13 juankristal: or whatever is that
15:14 juankristal: 00:59:640 - and for this one I dont really think it deserves such long anchor
15:14 juankristal: because there is no voice in there
15:14 Tofu1222: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8754213
15:14 Tofu1222: what i do is this
15:15 juankristal: mmh
15:15 Tofu1222: like four F
15:15 juankristal: I understand why is it like that but I think the sound is not as predominant as it is on here for example01:00:913 (60913|2,61095|2,61276|2,61458|2,61640|2) -
15:15 Tofu1222: so put on same column ;w;
15:16 juankristal: its similar to this 00:56:367 (56367|3,56549|0,56731|3,56913|0) -
15:16 juankristal: the sound is not as predominant so its not needed to use it as anchors
15:17 juankristal: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8754238 something kinda similar in here
15:19 Tofu1222: yep
15:19 Tofu1222: i fixed that in your way
15:19 Tofu1222: its better
15:19 Tofu1222: owo
15:19 Tofu1222: 01:00:913 (60913|2,61095|2,61276|2,61458|2,61640|2) - tho i kinda think that this anchor is understandable?
15:20 juankristal: yes
15:20 juankristal: that anchor is fine
15:20 juankristal: it works well as a transition as well
15:21 juankristal: its harder to understand if you play without hitsounds but if you play with them is quite easy to notice it before it takes place
15:21 Tofu1222: i agree lol
15:22 juankristal: for the second part of the kiai tho
15:22 juankristal: I think its cool to have like a mixed theme
15:22 juankristal: so it doesnt have to be exactly the same thing
15:23 Tofu1222: oh?
15:23 juankristal: stuff like 01:07:276 (67276|3,67458|3) -
15:23 juankristal: 01:07:640 (67640|2,67822|1) -
15:23 juankristal: should stay consistent tho
15:23 juankristal: what I mean is, those vocal jacks should stay consistent
15:23 juankristal: but you can play around the patterns a bit
15:23 Tofu1222: oh i see owo
15:23 juankristal: doesnt have to be replicated as the first part completely
15:24 juankristal: you could take a different focus on parts like 01:08:004 - up to 01:08:913 -
15:24 juankristal: something that focus maybe on the bass or maybe more to the kicks
15:24 juankristal: you can also as well just keep it vocal anyways, but those are things you could do
15:25 juankristal: since it transitioned already you have the opportunity to make a change on that type but once you do it you have to remain it consistent up until the end of the kiai/next transition
15:27 Tofu1222: i should first make a foundation of the vocal i guess
15:29 juankristal: up to you
15:29 Tofu1222: yep i have kinda finished
15:30 juankristal: alright
15:30 juankristal: dunno how much time it takes to you for update stuff
15:30 juankristal: if you want we can move to the other diffs first
15:30 juankristal: 01:24:549 (84549|1,84731|2,84731|0,84913|1,85095|2,85095|0,85276|1,85458|0,85458|2,85640|1,85822|0,85822|2) - not a fan of this one in the hardest diff either
15:32 Tofu1222: changed
15:32 Tofu1222: yea lets go to normal owo
15:34 juankristal: mmmh
15:34 juankristal: the normal is actually hard
15:34 juankristal: hah
15:35 Tofu1222: yea
15:35 juankristal: wait
15:35 juankristal: 00:06:428 (6428|0,6670|1) -
15:35 juankristal: why are those snaps different than easy
15:35 juankristal: 00:12:276 (12276|3,12549|2) - same here
15:37 Tofu1222: what do u think of them
15:37 Tofu1222: i guess they should all be 1/3?
15:37 juankristal: i mean
15:37 juankristal: yeah
15:37 juankristal: snap them correctly in the normal
15:37 Tofu1222: k
15:37 juankristal: for the easy we will see, if it turns out to be too hard we will simplify it
15:40 juankristal: mmmh
15:40 juankristal: we probably have to quite some balance for the spread
15:40 Tofu1222: yea
15:41 Tofu1222: for highest diff there seems be also some problem about that
15:41 Tofu1222: and have to adjust hitsound again
15:41 juankristal: hardest diff gap with hard is fine I think
15:41 juankristal: main issue is normal with easy
15:41 juankristal: and normal with hard being almost the same difficulty
15:42 juankristal: http://puu.sh/x0JJD/55f3da0548.osu
15:42 juankristal: wait
15:42 juankristal: thats the easy
15:42 juankristal: I wanted to send the normal
15:42 juankristal: http://puu.sh/x0JKH/5456653e4a.osu
15:42 juankristal: so, there is the normal where I made a few changes that I think would balance the spread a little bit
15:42 juankristal: so tell me what you think about it
15:42 Tofu1222: oh thanks! owo
15:42 juankristal: I changed from here 00:24:367 -
15:43 juankristal: up until here 00:36:004 -
15:43 juankristal: but that should give you an idea of what I think we should be following
15:43 juankristal: in order to balance the spread out
15:45 Tofu1222: yea i see your idea
15:46 Tofu1222: but whenever normal is nerfed, hard should be nerfed too right?
15:46 juankristal: mmh, maybe
15:46 juankristal: depends on how much we nerf the normal
15:46 Tofu1222: ok
15:49 juankristal: 00:49:276 -
15:49 juankristal: this pattern is weird
15:49 juankristal: like, what does it follow'
15:50 Tofu1222: ahh, that one
15:50 Tofu1222: so00:50:004 (50004|1,50367|2) -
15:50 Tofu1222: these two for the trumpet
15:50 Tofu1222: 00:49:822 (49822|0,50185|3) -
15:50 Tofu1222: these two
15:51 Tofu1222: for the sound that is same as 00:48:185 (48185|2,48549|3) - this kind
15:52 juankristal: mmmh
15:52 juankristal: I was thinking on something like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8754491
15:53 juankristal: like, I get what you follow but it doesnt feel intuitive
15:53 juankristal: thats because you were using 1/2 LNs during the previous section all the way
15:53 juankristal: and then everything turns into 1/2 LNs but the trumpet arent really that impactful I think
15:53 juankristal: but thats because the voice in the middle
15:53 juankristal: so people would get confused with the voice and the trumpet so then they will find that pattern weird to understand
15:54 juankristal: so the way I pictured its so you emphasys the trumpets so its harder to get lost on it
15:55 Tofu1222: yep
15:55 Tofu1222: fixed owo
15:57 juankristal: so now the kiai
16:02 juankristal: alright
16:02 juankristal: http://puu.sh/x0KDV/a0498bce0c.osu
16:03 juankristal: that contains an edited version of the kiai with again, same way like the last time
16:03 Tofu1222: gosh i nerfed to 1.86*
16:03 Tofu1222:
16:03 juankristal: I put it down to 2,02
16:03 juankristal: we were both doing the same thing xD
16:04 juankristal: although, you should probably not pay much attention to star rating
16:04 juankristal: its usually a bad indicator for sprads
16:04 juankristal: *spreads
16:07 Tofu1222: ahh, maybe let me update it and u take a look?
16:08 juankristal: sounds fair
16:14 Tofu1222: updated
16:15 juankristal: so, the problem with your nerf is
16:16 juankristal: that the gap on hard and normal now is a bit too big xD
16:16 Tofu1222: i know XD. I wanna kind of nerfing hard too but yea, I will inform emiria, cuz gap between hard and manga isnt that big
16:17 Tofu1222: hard can be like 2.5-2.7
16:17 Tofu1222: XD
16:17 juankristal: I like what you did in the kiai tho
16:17 juankristal: its a big gap on easy for the kiai but welp
16:18 juankristal: not that big of a deal
16:18 juankristal: so, lets do it this way
16:18 juankristal: you talk with emiria about this spread issue and check the edited version I sent to you
16:18 juankristal: once you figure out what you want to do with the normal and fixed stuff with emilia call me back and I will place the piano icon
16:19 juankristal: and once you get confirmation from a STD bn then we rank it
16:19 juankristal: sounds fine?
16:19 Tofu1222: yep
16:19 Tofu1222: nice XD
16:19 Tofu1222: btw can u send me again?
16:19 juankristal: sure
16:19 Tofu1222: I restarted
16:19 juankristal: http://puu.sh/x0KDV/a0498bce0c.osu
16:20 Tofu1222: thanks!
16:20 Tofu1222: post this on the thread?
16:20 juankristal: yeah, I will
16:20 Tofu1222: our recore
16:20 Tofu1222: ok
16:20 Tofu1222: XD
16:20 juankristal: also, its probably better for you to contact a tier 2 std bn
16:20 juankristal: since I cant place hearts on STD hybrids
16:20 juankristal: I can only place bubbles
16:20 juankristal: and a tier 1 cant place hearts on it either
16:20 Tofu1222: that's true
16:21 juankristal: so pick carefuly your bn x)
16:21 Tofu1222: I have contacted chaoslitz to check the std diff
16:21 juankristal: oh thats goodf
Call me back once you sorted stuff out with Emiria so we do a final re-check. Good luck!
I am really glad to work with you 'w')/
