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IOSYS - Alice Dere

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Darcsol
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Saturday, August 18, 2018 at 6:17:03 PM

Artist: IOSYS
Title: Alice Dere
Source: 東方妖々夢 ~ Perfect Cherry Blossom.
Tags: lovhin456 ARISU-dere Alice-Sweet ARM Hikura miko ひくら アリス・マーガトロイド Youyoumu 7 seven The Doll Maker of Bucuresti 東方河想狗蒼池 River Vision Dog Blue Pond 東方Project Touhou Toho Project Shrine Maiden Alice Margatroid 霧雨 魔理沙 Marisa Kirisame ブクレシュティの人形師 tsundere
BPM: 128
Filesize: 22597kb
Play Time: 04:43
Difficulties Available:
  1. Hard (3.24 stars, 616 notes)
  2. lovhin's Easy (1.58 stars, 234 notes)
  3. Normal (2.11 stars, 395 notes)
Download: IOSYS - Alice Dere
Download: IOSYS - Alice Dere (no video)
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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4th Beatmap


あなたが零した涙
The tears that you spilled

見上げた星が薄れては滲む
make the stars I gaze up upon faint and blurry

透明だった私の
These unfamiliar, once-transparent feelings

知らない気持ちが膨らんでく
only continue to grow

絆に結んだ指先
Our fingertips are bound together by fate

上手く話すことが出来ないけど
and although I can't really explain it

背中を合わせられたら
Whenever you place your back against mine

どんなときでも怖くはならないよ
I stop becoming afraid



Thank you lovhin456 for your Easy guest diff!
Thank you pimp for providing the video!
Nyar
star :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
Backfire
Here is my taiko.

Maybe it wont suck. :(
..............................

Download: IOSYS - Alice-Dere (Darcsol) [Taiko].osu
Sander-Don
Hey Darcy >w< nice taiko, Backfire~
Star :3!

your messege isn't long enough asdasdasdasd
Omega
Countless (Read: more than nine) IRC mods, hope you got that confusing stream fixed by now.


Star.
Jilka8
If you're still wanting Easy I can make it ~

The map is very good for me .
Topic Starter
Darcsol

Jilka8 wrote:

If you're still wanting Easy I can make it ~

The map is very good for me .
Sure make it!
Jilka8

Darcsol wrote:

Jilka8 wrote:

If you're still wanting Easy I can make it ~

The map is very good for me .
Sure make it!
Thank you ! >///<
Zelos
Your message is too short.
Your message is too short.
Your message is too short.

Download: IOSYS - Alice-Dere (Darcsol) [Collab].osu
Dino99
Normal

01:45:487 (1) - Add a finish?

It's really good~~@@

:) :) :)
Topic Starter
Darcsol

12BARRY21 wrote:

Normal

01:45:487 (1) - Add a finish? Currently there's little hitsounds on Normal. I'll add them soon.

It's really good~~@@

:) :) :)
Zelos
Once again, a new part.

Download: IOSYS - Alice-Dere (Darcsol) [Collab].osu
lovhin456
Hi! I wanted to try my luck with an Easy, I have made everything up to half the first chorus, I want to know what you think ... so I finish it if you want (: I included my own bg and a custom hitsound on the rar. Star ~
http://puu.sh/6Pwy
Also I noticed some things:
Tags: Add Kirisame
Source: With just 'Touhou' I think is enough the rest can go in tags
EDIT: Here the finished diff http://puu.sh/7dVt ! I hope you like it :3
Zelos
lovhin456 maps are always nice.

update.

Download: IOSYS - Alice-Dere (Darcsol) [Darlice x Zarisa].osu
DaxMasterix
Good map lol. 8-)

For Backfire. <3 - I think it sounds better ''Normal'' Instead of ''Soft''. :x
/me run
:me gusta:
Birdy
Here we go, a video for you~

If the resolution/size/file type/anything needs to be changed, tell me and I'll change it :3
LunarSakuya
hi from modreq :)
I like this song xD

Easy

SPOILER
01:16:893 (2) - Center it between (1,3)
01:27:674 - Add note between (1,3)
01:28:612 (3) - Delete note
01:29:549 - Add note between (1,3)
01:52:518 (4) - Delete note, might be confusing for beginniners
02:21:112 (2) - not really going with the overlap slider.. xD
02:26:737 (5) - change into smiley slider like: \__/ (lol sorry i gotta learn how to screenshot)
02:32:830 - Add note, you did it earlier; same for 03:55:330
02:52:518 (1) - Delete NC
02:52:986 (2) - NC

Normal
SPOILER
00:37:518 (5,6,1) - make a line? instead of stacking them directly on top of each other
00:40:799 (5) - NC
01:03:299 (1) - Feels odd
01:11:033 (5) - Shorten this slider to white tick (01:11:268)
01:19:002 (1) - maybe start here instead
02:37:518 (7) - Add finish here instead of on 02:37:987 (1)
03:17:362 (3) - Rotate around 55 degrees Clockwise and position correctly below (1,2)
03:41:737 (5) - NC
03:52:752 - Add note

Sorry I can't do Taiko lol

Hard

SPOILER
00:31:190 - Add note
00:31:307 - Add note (makes a stack :D)

00:31:893 (5,6,7,8) - Add the 2 notes between these (on red ticks)?
00:44:783 (10) - hard to see
00:54:862 (6) - NC to signify distance change
01:11:151 (10,11,1) - make a full stream through these?
02:04:119 - Add note
02:28:612 (7) - NC?
02:47:362 (6) - NC
I'll stop suggesting NCs from here because I don't wanna screw up your intentions or anything xD But there are lots of distance changes so it'd be nice to make them easier to read. :)

02:55:799 (10,11,12,13) - make full stream
lovhin456

LunarSakuya wrote:

Easy

01:16:893 (2) - Center it between (1,3) Done
01:27:674 - Add note between (1,3) I think is fine so nope
01:28:612 (3) - Delete note Nope
01:29:549 - Add note between (1,3) Is fine, nope
01:52:518 (4) - Delete note, might be confusing for beginniners Eh, because of the previous slider ? I changed the pattern in the playfield instead then
02:21:112 (2) - not really going with the overlap slider.. xD Is fine imo :3
02:26:737 (5) - change into smiley slider like: \__/ (lol sorry i gotta learn how to screenshot) Ah you mean a curved one ? Yeah, it's a good idea but then previous note hitburst might cover the body of it so no change
02:32:830 - Add note, you did it earlier; same for 03:55:330 I like to leave some time for players after a spinner
02:52:518 (1) - Delete NC
02:52:986 (2) - NC Yes to both
Download: IOSYS - Alice-Dere (Darcsol) [lovhin's Easy].osu
Topic Starter
Darcsol

LunarSakuya wrote:

Normal
00:37:518 (5,6,1) - make a line? instead of stacking them directly on top of each other Fixed.
00:40:799 (5) - NC "NC"? Sorry, I'm bad with initials. EDIT: I'll create a new combo at 00:41:737.
01:03:299 (1) - Feels odd All beats starting before the kiai time are like that. If enough modders oppose it, I'll consider change.
01:11:033 (5) - Shorten this slider to white tick (01:11:268) Fixed.
01:19:002 (1) - maybe start here instead I think it's fine.
02:37:518 (7) - Add finish here instead of on 02:37:987 (1) Added.
03:17:362 (3) - Rotate around 55 degrees Clockwise and position correctly below (1,2) Fiixed.
03:41:737 (5) - NC Don't know what it means. EDIT: Fixed.
03:52:752 - Add note Added.

Hard

00:31:190 - Add note
00:31:307 - Add note (makes a stack :D) Both added.

00:31:893 (5,6,7,8) - Add the 2 notes between these (on red ticks)? I'll only add a note between (6) and (7).
00:44:783 (10) - hard to see Fixed.
00:54:862 (6) - NC to signify distance change Don't know what "NC" means. EDIT: I think it's fine.
01:11:151 (10,11,1) - make a full stream through these? I think it's fine.
02:04:119 - Add note Added.
02:28:612 (7) - NC? EDIT: Added.
02:47:362 (6) - NC I think it's fine.
I'll stop suggesting NCs from here because I don't wanna screw up your intentions or anything xD But there are lots of distance changes so it'd be nice to make them easier to read. :) I still don't know what "NC" means! :cry: But there are numerous "distance changes" that are intended to be jumps. If those jumps feel wrong or off please let me know.
EDIT: After re-looking over the" suggestions, I've noticed most of the "NCs" are during a jump. Personally I don't like new combos after jumps. Sorry.


02:55:799 (10,11,12,13) - make full stream Again I think it's fine.
I really need to know what "NC" means. I probably heard it before and if it means something obvious I'll feel very stupid.

EDIT: I finally know what "NC" means! Thanks lovhin456 for clearing it up! Now I feel stupid. :cry:
Topic Starter
Darcsol

2nnt wrote:

Here we go, a video for you~

If the resolution/size/file type/anything needs to be changed, tell me and I'll change it :3
The video file is too large; exceeds over the 20MB file limit. The video also feels choppy to watch, as well as it has poor quality sound. I'm not video editor-savvy so try to remove the sound and smooth out the video if you can.
Birdy

Darcsol wrote:

2nnt wrote:

Here we go, a video for you~

If the resolution/size/file type/anything needs to be changed, tell me and I'll change it :3
The video file is too large; exceeds over the 20MB file limit. The video also feels choppy to watch, as well as it has poor quality sound. I'm not video editor-savvy so try to remove the sound and smooth out the video if you can.
Allright, I'll try it later today~
Birdy
Update

Sorry about the bad quality again, but this is the best I can do with 20 mb limit.

But well, my excuse is the length of the song
Topic Starter
Darcsol

2nnt wrote:

Update

Sorry about the bad quality again, but this is the best I can do with 20 mb limit.

But well, my excuse is the length of the song
Even with the file size reduced, it's still exceeds the total file limit. I appreciate you for trying.
Birdy

Darcsol wrote:

2nnt wrote:

Update

Sorry about the bad quality again, but this is the best I can do with 20 mb limit.

But well, my excuse is the length of the song
Even with the file size reduced, it's still exceeds the total file limit. I appreciate you for trying.
Ah well, better luck next time.
TicClick
:3

General
  1. 01:18:299 ~ 01:19:237 and two other parts between kiai: why do you stop kiai here? I don't see a reason for it :(
lovhin's Easy
  1. 00:30:487 (1,3) - I would make "beat blanket" here instead of it: http://puu.sh/erdn
  2. 00:39:862 (1) - unsymmetrical a little, but it's ok
  3. 00:54:393 — note?
  4. 02:48:299 (5) - forgot to put finish on the end?
  5. 03:23:924 (1) - unsymmetrical a liiiittle again
  6. 03:46:893 — add note between sliders?
  7. 04:36:112 (2) - remove finish?
Normal
  1. 00:37:987 (1) - 1 grid left to keep the same distance between notes
  2. 00:56:268 (5) - finish?
  3. 01:02:830 — I would put a note here
  4. 01:35:643 ~ 01:37:987 — hmm... ok, ok
  5. 03:26:971 — start break right after the note, not here
  6. 04:41:737 (1) - forgot finish
Hard
  1. 00:42:440 (2) - stack it using zero spacing (disable grid first)
  2. 00:52:283 — note?
  3. 01:04:002 (1) - remove nc?
  4. 01:08:221 (2) - did you want to stack it or not? I don't get it
  5. 01:29:315 (7) - the same about stack
  6. 01:30:252 (9) - and again
  7. 01:45:838 — note?
  8. 01:48:416 (12) - stack again :(
  9. 01:49:354 — place one note here and move next 1/4 later
  10. 02:22:283 — note!
  11. 02:34:002 (1) - remove nc?
  12. 02:53:924 (3) - stack it, oh
  13. 02:59:315 (8) - ^
  14. 03:00:487 (1) - ^
  15. 03:24:862 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - make note-only stream instead?
  16. 03:33:299 — why did you drag break's end? It makes no sense here
  17. 03:56:502 (1) - remove nc?
  18. 04:20:643 (4) - stack it
  19. 04:22:518 (9) - ^
  20. 04:23:221 (2) - I think it's close to scorebar
Now is the sad thing: bitrate of your mp3 is 320 kbps. If you aim for rank, lower it down to 192 kbps at least (no less than 128), then fix the offset (usual it's something near +30ms; check on test mode), re-set the preview time and do full submit.

Good luck with map!
lovhin456
My diificulty
Download: IOSYS - Alice-Dere (Darcsol) [lovhin's Easy].osu
192kbps mp3 (+30 offset like TicClick said)
http://puu.sh/ete5
Video (I think it's fine but let's see what you think)
http://puu.sh/etbs
wowshakhov
Really good map! Haven't seen such a good flow for quite a while. I enjoyed it very much, keep up the good work.
Topic Starter
Darcsol

TicClick wrote:

General
  1. 01:18:299 ~ 01:19:237 and two other parts between kiai: why do you stop kiai here? I don't see a reason for it :( It's for style. I like to break the choruses to parts if possible.
Normal
  1. 00:37:987 (1) - 1 grid left to keep the same distance between notes Fixed.
  2. 00:56:268 (5) - finish? Added.
  3. 01:02:830 — I would put a note here I think it's fine without it.
  4. 01:35:643 ~ 01:37:987 — hmm... ok, ok ...
  5. 03:26:971 — start break right after the note, not here Added.
  6. 04:41:737 (1) - forgot finish Fixed.
Hard
  1. 00:42:440 (2) - stack it using zero spacing (disable grid first) Fixed.
  2. 00:52:283 — note? I think it's fine.
  3. 01:04:002 (1) - remove nc? It's a personal style of mine. I always add a combo before kiai time.
  4. 01:08:221 (2) - did you want to stack it or not? I don't get it :\ Meh, it won't be stacked.
  5. 01:29:315 (7) - the same about stack
  6. 01:30:252 (9) - and again The two above will stay the same.
  7. 01:45:838 — note? Added.
  8. 01:48:416 (12) - stack again :( I think it's fine.
  9. 01:49:354 — place one note here and move next 1/4 later Added.
  10. 02:22:283 — note! Again I think it's fine.
  11. 02:34:002 (1) - remove nc? Again, for style.
  12. 02:53:924 (3) - stack it, oh
  13. 02:59:315 (8) - ^
  14. 03:00:487 (1) - ^ I think all of them are fine.
  15. 03:24:862 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - make note-only stream instead? I think it's fine.
  16. 03:33:299 — why did you drag break's end? It makes no sense here Fixed. There's little significance to it anyway.
  17. 03:56:502 (1) - remove nc? Again, style.
  18. 04:20:643 (4) - stack it I think it's fine.
  19. 04:22:518 (9) - ^ Slightly fixed.
  20. 04:23:221 (2) - I think it's close to scorebar I agree. Fixed.
Now is the sad thing: bitrate of your mp3 is 320 kbps. If you aim for rank, lower it down to 192 kbps at least (no less than 128), then fix the offset (usual it's something near +30ms; check on test mode), re-set the preview time and do full submit. Thanks lovhin456 for your services.
Good luck with map!
TicClick
Meh, it won't be stacked.
Even when you turn grid snapping off?
Topic Starter
Darcsol

TicClick wrote:

Even when you turn grid snapping off?
I've made different changes instead.
Backfire
spboxer3
from #request :P

[general]


  • Settings
  1. Inconsistency PreviewTime in Backfire's Taiko
  2. Inconsistency red line in Backfire's Taiko
  3. suggest use same kiai time

[lovhin's Easy]


  • Settings
  1. Kiai Times Not On Downbeat:
    03:56:743 - to 04:10:829 -
Overlaps
(Some overlaps of notes/sliders in this diff don't look good. Here is a list of beats that overlap eachothou could space them farther apart.)
  1. 02:55:829 (5,1) -
mapping
  1. 02:45:517 (3) - suggest newcomco this because It's easy diff 02:43:642 (2,3) - have 2 measure spacing It's too long for Easy

[Normal]



  • Overlaps
    (Some overlaps of notes/sliders in this diff don't look good. Here is a list of beats that overlap eachothou could space them farther apart.)
  1. 00:43:642 (1,2,3) -
mapping
  1. 00:41:767 (7) - NC at this way. because (9) combo It's too much for Normal~
  2. 01:53:017 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - Umm... where's clap hitsound? add clap for this part?[IMO]
  3. 02:10:829 (6,7,1) - spacing issue~ because...↓
  4. 02:11:063 (7) - unsanp slider (end)
  5. 03:47:392 (3) - unsanp slider (end)

[Hard]


  • Settings
  1. suggest AR use 8
mapping
  1. 02:27:704 (4,5,6,1) - spacing issue~
  2. 04:13:876 (6,8) - could you stack them? It's pretty then now :P~
  3. 04:20:204 (3,4) - ^

[Backfire's Taiko]


  • Settings
  1. Draining Time:4:37 I remember over 4:30 It's unrankable ;_;
mapping
  1. 00:06:112 (1) - spinner end at 00:07:752 - ? 1/4 rhythm It's not fit at this way include It's spinner in Taiko

red is unrankable issue. bule is need to discuss. Black is just suggest.

that's all
good luck :P
lovhin456
Did all the suggestions, thanks
Download: IOSYS - Alice-Dere (Darcsol) [lovhin's Easy].osu
Topic Starter
Darcsol

spboxer3 wrote:

[general]


  • Settings
  1. Inconsistency PreviewTime in Backfire's Taiko
  2. Inconsistency red line in Backfire's Taiko
  3. suggest use same kiai time
All fixed.

[Normal]



  • Overlaps
    (Some overlaps of notes/sliders in this diff don't look good. Here is a list of beats that overlap eachothou could space them farther apart.)
  1. 00:43:642 (1,2,3) -
mapping
  1. 00:41:767 (7) - NC at this way. because (9) combo It's too much for Normal~
  2. 01:53:017 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - Umm... where's clap hitsound? add clap for this part?[IMO]
  3. 02:10:829 (6,7,1) - spacing issue~ because...↓
  4. 02:11:063 (7) - unsanp slider (end)
  5. 03:47:392 (3) - unsanp slider (end)
All fixed.

[Hard]


  • Settings
  1. suggest AR use 8
I think it's fine.

mapping
  1. 02:27:704 (4,5,6,1) - spacing issue~ This is on purpose.
  2. 04:13:876 (6,8) - could you stack them? It's pretty then now :P~
  3. 04:20:204 (3,4) - ^
The first suggestion I'll fix but not the second one.

[Backfire's Taiko]


  • Settings
  1. Draining Time:4:37 I remember over 4:30 It's unrankable ;_;
mapping
  1. 00:06:112 (1) - spinner end at 00:07:752 - ? 1/4 rhythm It's not fit at this way include It's spinner in Taiko
All fixed by Backfire.

red is unrankable issue. bule is need to discuss. Black is just suggest.

that's all
good luck :P
WVSagi
Hello again!
#modreqs.
Let's go.

Normal
[Normal]
01:33:329 (6) - add whistle?
01:55:360 (4) - add clap (front).
01:57:235 (2) - add clap.
01:57:704 (3) - add clap (reverse arrow).
02:00:282 (1) - add whistle (front), and add finish (end).
02:30:517 (1) - add finish at the end.
02:33:329 (1) - add clap (end), and remove the whistle at the end of the slider, it's weird.
02:37:548 (7) - remove finish?
03:12:704 (2) - add whistle (front).
03:13:642 (3) - add whistle (front + repeater 2).
03:15:517 (1) - add whistle (front)
03:16:454 (2) - add whistle (front)
03:17:392 (3) - same like 03:13:642 (3).
03:51:610 (4) - remove the whistle.
03:53:017 (1) - add finish (spinner end).
------------
Hard
[Hard]
01:00:517 (1) - add finish (spinner end).
01:34:267 (1) - same ^
03:04:267 (1) - same again ^
-----------------
That's it :3c
don't kudos this if it isn't help~
Goodluck! :oops:
Topic Starter
Darcsol

WVSagi wrote:

Normal
[Normal]
01:33:329 (6) - add whistle?
01:55:360 (4) - add clap (front).
01:57:235 (2) - add clap.
01:57:704 (3) - add clap (reverse arrow).
02:00:282 (1) - add whistle (front), and add finish (end).
02:30:517 (1) - add finish at the end.
02:33:329 (1) - add clap (end), and remove the whistle at the end of the slider, it's weird.
02:37:548 (7) - remove finish?
03:12:704 (2) - add whistle (front).
03:13:642 (3) - add whistle (front + repeater 2).
03:15:517 (1) - add whistle (front)
03:16:454 (2) - add whistle (front)
03:17:392 (3) - same like 03:13:642 (3).
03:51:610 (4) - remove the whistle.
03:53:017 (1) - add finish (spinner end). Most of them fixed/added.
------------
Hard
[Hard]
01:00:517 (1) - add finish (spinner end).
01:34:267 (1) - same ^
03:04:267 (1) - same again ^ I think all of it is unnecessary.
Thanks again. :D
Low
• Background image must be 800 x 600. Resize it using an image editor.
• Kiai times in Backfire's Taiko are unsnapped.
• Unsnapped timing sections at:
01:04:237
01:18:299
01:19:237
01:34:237
02:34:237
02:48:299
02:49:237
03:04:237
03:56:737
04:10:799
04:11:737
04:26:737

from #modreqs
Topic Starter
Darcsol

Jacob wrote:

• Background image must be 800 x 600. Resize it using an image editor. The maximum size for a background image is 1024 x 768. The majority of maps have backgrounds in this size and it looks better.
• Kiai times in Backfire's Taiko are unsnapped.
• Unsnapped timing sections at:
01:04:237
01:18:299
01:19:237
01:34:237
02:34:237
02:48:299
02:49:237
03:04:237
03:56:737
04:10:799
04:11:737
04:26:737 That doesn't matter much. Oh well, fixed.
Asakichi
[Hard]
There are many over 10 combo
I think half combo interval is best.

for example,
00:17:392 (6) - NC
00:21:142 (5) - NC
00:24:892 (5) - NC
00:28:642 (6) - NC

I am sorry for poor English.
Topic Starter
Darcsol

Asakichi wrote:

[Hard]
There are many over 10 combo
I think half combo interval is best.

for example,
00:17:392 (6) - NC
00:21:142 (5) - NC
00:24:892 (5) - NC
00:28:642 (6) - NC
I think it's fine, mostly because of personal preference. Technically the maximum combos you can have is 16 (I think). There are a few maps that went over the limit.
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