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This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 2017年12月18日 at 13:32:47

Artist: loos
Title: Koi Yomi Zakura (Full size)
Tags: omoi yoshino オモイヨシノ 柊莉杏 Hiiragi Rian spice+rock imouto ouo koko lyric ametrin yf_bmp gust ultimate madoka
BPM: 168
Filesize: 8029kb
Play Time: 03:50
Difficulties Available:
  1. Ametrin's Easy (1.35 stars, 181 notes)
  2. Gust's Insane (4.84 stars, 878 notes)
  3. Hard (3.23 stars, 505 notes)
  4. Insane (4.68 stars, 795 notes)
  5. koko's Insane (4.38 stars, 816 notes)
  6. Lyric's Insane (5 stars, 839 notes)
  7. Normal (2.06 stars, 332 notes)
  8. yf's Expert (5.22 stars, 915 notes)
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Here is Darkarchon's Expert

第一张图,或许还是不太如人意,但是我在试着提升,走到这一步虽然不算很辛苦,但是姑且也有一些付出,一切留给下一张图和改变后的自己。

Ametrin's Easy by Ametrin
Normal by me
Hard by me
koko's Insane by Imouto koko
Insane by me
Gust's Insane by Gust
Lyric's Insane by Lyric
yf's Expert by yf_bmp
Hanazawa Kana
为啥你这时间轴最后面都有东西的
吓我一尿
Topic Starter
papapa213

Hanazawa Kana wrote:

为啥你这时间轴最后面都有东西的
吓我一尿
(居然有人回复,吓尿
;w;因为还没做完,先随便放点note占个坑
- Rabbit -
很久没玩了,真不会摸,随便水一下。
[Insane]
首先,全程基本只压了鼓点,导致很多地方缺音情况(可以参考一下我以前东方那图的摸)以及有些地方略违和,感觉压音最好还是能够灵活一点,音尽量填的满一点。
有些地方音效被音乐盖过去了,建议音效声再大点
以及建议养成开ds的习惯。

00:06:159 - 漏音了
00:06:516 (6) - 0.5x明显慢了,反应不过来
00:07:231 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - 这段节奏稍平缓,不适合这么激烈的排列,后面一小段都是
00:11:784 - 漏音了
00:12:320 - 好像漏音了,没听清
00:13:302 (2) - 这段节奏明显加强,排列反而简单了
00:24:374 (1) - 这里开始是比较平缓的一段,应该考虑降低ds和sv,排列也要简单一点(有看出降低但力度不太够的样子)
00:32:945 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - 有点难打,建议开ds
00:45:981 (8) - 这段的音不压很难受
00:59:374 - 重音在滑条尾,后同
01:02:945 (9,10,11,12,13,14) - 音乐平缓下来排列却难了,后面一小段都是
01:03:659 (13,14) - 感觉14有点overmap,而且就算你这14压了音 01:03:927 - 这个总不能不压吧
01:05:445 (5) - 奇怪的滑条,音没突变的话用这种滑条可能有点违和?尤其是你图大部分滑条都比较简单的情况
01:09:374 (11) - 这里应该是一段音的结束,应该突出一点,作衔接感觉不太好
01:10:802 (5) - 01:11:874 (12) - 01:15:088 (13) - 同理
01:16:874 (4,5,6,7) - 可以考虑改成 单点 单点 滑条
01:17:945 (9,10) - 这两个滑条可以加速来突出一下
01:22:945 (28,29,30,31,32) - 这段节奏正高潮,可以跳的大一点,后同
01:24:195 (34,1,2,3,4,5) - 重音没凸显出来,后面一小段都是
01:27:231 (1) - 音有明显变化,这里用折返滑条。。额。。
01:28:302 (2) - 这滑条感觉凸显不出白线的重音,用单点可能比较好?

虽然之前发qq了,还是来骗一波kd
Topic Starter
papapa213

- Rabbit - wrote:

很久没玩了,真不会摸,随便水一下。
[Insane]
首先,全程基本只压了鼓点,导致很多地方缺音情况(可以参考一下我以前东方那图的摸)以及有些地方略违和,感觉压音最好还是能够灵活一点,音尽量填的满一点。
有些地方音效被音乐盖过去了,建议音效声再大点
以及建议养成开ds的习惯。

00:06:159 - 漏音了 这里那个是回声吧,感觉不应该跟
00:06:516 (6) - 0.5x明显慢了,反应不过来 fixed
00:07:231 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - 这段节奏稍平缓,不适合这么激烈的排列,后面一小段都是这里感觉还好,因为比起最开始的时候是相对激烈的
00:11:784 - 漏音了fixed
00:12:320 - 好像漏音了,没听清 没有~
00:13:302 (2) - 这段节奏明显加强,排列反而简单了我想的是只是前面那个激烈一些,这里开始才是正常的强度
00:24:374 (1) - 这里开始是比较平缓的一段,应该考虑降低ds和sv,排列也要简单一点(有看出降低但力度不太够的样子)fixed
00:32:945 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - 有点难打,建议开ds感觉还好,就不改了
00:45:981 (8) - 这段的音不压很难受这里有音啊...你的压音是什么意思
00:59:374 - 重音在滑条尾,后同这段还有后面改了下节奏
01:02:945 (9,10,11,12,13,14) - 音乐平缓下来排列却难了,后面一小段都是fixed
01:03:659 (13,14) - 感觉14有点overmap,而且就算你这14压了音 01:03:927 - 这个总不能不压吧改成了长串
01:05:445 (5) - 奇怪的滑条,音没突变的话用这种滑条可能有点违和?尤其是你图大部分滑条都比较简单的情况改了下节奏
01:09:374 (11) - 这里应该是一段音的结束,应该突出一点,作衔接感觉不太好fixed
01:10:802 (5) - 01:11:874 (12) - 01:15:088 (13) - 同理fixed
01:16:874 (4,5,6,7) - 可以考虑改成 单点 单点 滑条fixed
01:17:945 (9,10) - 这两个滑条可以加速来突出一下fixed
01:22:945 (28,29,30,31,32) - 这段节奏正高潮,可以跳的大一点,后同fixed
01:24:195 (34,1,2,3,4,5) - 重音没凸显出来,后面一小段都是fixed
01:27:231 (1) - 音有明显变化,这里用折返滑条。。额。。
01:28:302 (2) - 这滑条感觉凸显不出白线的重音,用单点可能比较好?也有点难受,但是不知道怎么改

虽然之前发qq了,还是来骗一波kd
谢摸
Topic Starter
papapa213

Hanazawa Kana wrote:

为啥你这时间轴最后面都有东西的
吓我一尿
突然想起来卡拿爷爷好像是下了之前的版本,我重新上传了完整版mp3
AltMirrorBell
wtf
Imouto koko
irc mod
后续改完了可以再喊我哇
当然别的难度也是;w;
2017-05-31 00:02 Imouto OuO: 00:43:659 (38,39,40,41,42,43,44,45) -
2017-05-31 00:02 Imouto OuO: 这种梗不能放hard里
2017-05-31 00:02 Imouto OuO: hard别玩读图梗
2017-05-31 00:03 papapa213: emmm 这里我再想一想
2017-05-31 00:04 Imouto OuO: 00:49:731 (61,62,63,64,65,66,67) -
2017-05-31 00:04 Imouto OuO: 这里这种其实就是摆的有点乱了
2017-05-31 00:04 Imouto OuO: 如果要摆折返的flow的话
2017-05-31 00:04 Imouto OuO: 最好是用一些固定的点
2017-05-31 00:04 papapa213: 嗯
2017-05-31 00:05 Imouto OuO: 比如00:50:802 (64,65) - 可以放在62上
2017-05-31 00:05 Imouto OuO: 然后66顺着ds往左上放一点,这样正好也不会挡住67
2017-05-31 00:06 Imouto OuO: 湖面的00:52:231 (69,70) - 正好又可以放在66上
2017-05-31 00:06 Imouto OuO: 然后71就被67滑条包住了
2017-05-31 00:06 Imouto OuO: 这里局部的排列就整齐了
2017-05-31 00:06 Imouto OuO: 。。看了看 71放不下去
2017-05-31 00:06 Imouto OuO: 那就随便放个地方好了=。=
2017-05-31 00:07 papapa213: =。=
2017-05-31 00:07 papapa213: 嗯 我思考一下
2017-05-31 00:08 Imouto OuO: 01:01:874 (97,98,99) - 这个也是 hard不是非要ds,但是最好大体满足距离=时间
2017-05-31 00:08 Imouto OuO: 这个读图梗有点多余
2017-05-31 00:08 papapa213: 突出99的重音
2017-05-31 00:08 papapa213: 有这个意思
2017-05-31 00:08 Imouto OuO: 01:03:659 (104,106) - 这种无意叠了一点点也是摆的比较随意了
2017-05-31 00:09 Imouto OuO: 那可以跳一小下,但是97 98重叠
2017-05-31 00:09 Imouto OuO: 或者干脆97和98铺开摆,叠半个比较怪=。=
2017-05-31 00:10 Imouto OuO: 01:07:588 (114,115,116) - 这里也是
2017-05-31 00:10 Imouto OuO: 我qq截个图吧
2017-05-31 00:11 papapa213: 其实从头到尾都一样的话叠半个也无所谓吧
2017-05-31 00:11 papapa213: 我觉得这样挺舒服的
2017-05-31 00:11 Imouto OuO: 那
2017-05-31 00:11 Imouto OuO: 也是摆个角度比较好
2017-05-31 00:11 Imouto OuO: 这里三个看着有点乱。。
2017-05-31 00:12 Imouto OuO: 01:16:159 (144,145,146) - 比如这里是直线的
2017-05-31 00:12 Imouto OuO: 刚刚那个地方就是歪的
2017-05-31 00:12 papapa213: 前面算是故意歪
2017-05-31 00:12 Imouto OuO: 。。
2017-05-31 00:13 Imouto OuO: 不怎么能体会到
2017-05-31 00:13 papapa213: emmmm
2017-05-31 00:13 Imouto OuO: 01:17:588 (150,151,152,153,154,155) - 。。。
2017-05-31 00:13 Imouto OuO: 不说好不好玩,反正HD党激怒
2017-05-31 00:14 papapa213: 。。。。。
2017-05-31 00:15 Imouto OuO: 01:55:266 (73,74) - 这也是故意的吗
2017-05-31 00:15 papapa213: 是...
2017-05-31 00:16 Imouto OuO: 02:24:374 (5,6,7,8) - 这个呢
2017-05-31 00:16 Imouto OuO: 这里真的 没感觉有必要拿滑条挡着半个note
2017-05-31 00:16 papapa213: 我觉得前后节奏比较稀疏的话
2017-05-31 00:17 papapa213: 这里好像是摆歪了
2017-05-31 00:17 papapa213: 好像是调别的地方的时候忘了动
2017-05-31 00:18 Imouto OuO: 02:42:230 (52) - 这个大概是没在意歪的,摆的时候还是多看一眼这些细节吧
2017-05-31 00:18 papapa213: 嗯
2017-05-31 00:18 papapa213: savelog
2017-05-31 00:18 Imouto OuO: 其实不用savelog的)
2017-05-31 00:19 Imouto OuO: 因为irc mod的话窝打算发thread骗个kds
2017-05-31 00:19 papapa213: 不我就记一下……马上就熄灯了
2017-05-31 00:19 papapa213: emmm放心后面肯定会让你再摸
2017-05-31 00:19 papapa213: 这hard还没传呢 让你给我挑挑刺然后我改了再传2333
2017-05-31 00:20 Imouto OuO: 噗噗
2017-05-31 00:20 Imouto OuO: 别的也会看的,等你做完了
2017-05-31 00:20 Imouto OuO: 排列感觉小毛病不少,改改好再考虑考虑flow之类的问题
2017-05-31 00:21 Imouto OuO: 然后节奏的话。。
2017-05-31 00:21 Imouto OuO: 有些空着比较难受
2017-05-31 00:21 papapa213: sad
2017-05-31 00:21 papapa213: 这个是问题
2017-05-31 00:21 papapa213: 不挑一些重音的话我就很想塞满
2017-05-31 00:22 Imouto OuO: 00:39:016 (23,24,25,26,27) - 这个
2017-05-31 00:22 Imouto OuO: 个人感觉hard下完全可以忽略掉
2017-05-31 00:22 Imouto OuO: hard的节奏本来就不嫌简单
2017-05-31 00:22 papapa213: 改成两个长滑条吧
2017-05-31 00:22 Imouto OuO: 哪怕一直是跟二分鼓点都很好摆的应该
2017-05-31 00:23 Imouto OuO: 没我是建议直接下二分鼓点的节奏。。
2017-05-31 00:23 Imouto OuO: 这里鼓点没断啊
2017-05-31 00:26 Imouto OuO: 00:41:874 (32,33) - 00:43:302 (37,38) - 这里的空拍 和后面的性质不一样吧
2017-05-31 00:26 Imouto OuO: 感觉是自创的空拍?
2017-05-31 00:26 Imouto OuO: 我仔细听一下
2017-05-31 00:26 Imouto OuO: 听了一下感觉是连续的。。这些地方不要空比较好
2017-05-31 00:27 papapa213: 熄灯了
2017-05-31 00:28 papapa213: 等下 我去切一下集显 不然会很卡
2017-05-31 00:28 Imouto OuO: 你们熄灯时间真特别)
2017-05-31 00:28 Imouto OuO: 好
2017-05-31 00:28 papapa213: haole
2017-05-31 00:29 papapa213: 刚最后一句没收到
2017-05-31 00:29 papapa213: 我看到你发消息但是我已经下了
2017-05-31 00:29 Imouto OuO: 最后一句是
2017-05-31 00:29 Imouto OuO: 你们熄灯时间真特别
2017-05-31 00:29 Imouto OuO: 还有你居然不开保存私聊信息的么O.O
2017-05-31 00:29 papapa213: 十一点半啊
2017-05-31 00:29 Imouto OuO: 挺好用的感觉
2017-05-31 00:29 Imouto OuO: 。喔对现在是11点半
2017-05-31 00:29 Imouto OuO: 我看成12点半了)
2017-05-31 00:30 Imouto OuO: mdzz笔记本时间总是看错位
2017-05-31 00:30 papapa213: emmmm不太喜欢自动给我缓存东西的感觉
2017-05-31 00:30 papapa213: 舰C玩家?
2017-05-31 00:30 Imouto OuO: 不完全是因为那个啦
2017-05-31 00:30 Imouto OuO: 00:11:338 (28,29,30) - 这个
2017-05-31 00:30 Imouto OuO: overmap吧 hard最好是不要
2017-05-31 00:32 Imouto OuO: 唔,我觉得吧,其实这图的节奏你可以下的更普通一点,从00:07:231 - 到00:18:659 - 这段
2017-05-31 00:32 Imouto OuO: 你是不是觉得鼓点太单一了
2017-05-31 00:32 Imouto OuO: 然后想找点空拍和三连之类的
2017-05-31 00:33 papapa213: 有点难了?
2017-05-31 00:33 Imouto OuO: 不是难不难的问题其实
2017-05-31 00:33 Imouto OuO: 就是hard没这个必要去自创一些节奏
2017-05-31 00:34 Imouto OuO: hard这难度是不怕你一路滑条单点塞满二分拍摆到头的
2017-05-31 00:35 papapa213: 这段是有问题
2017-05-31 00:35 papapa213: 我重新听了遍
2017-05-31 00:35 Imouto OuO: 00:35:802 - 00:44:374 - 然后这里
2017-05-31 00:35 Imouto OuO: 这段也是比较单一的节奏,不过也有三连,你却没下
2017-05-31 00:35 Imouto OuO: 00:42:231 (33,34) -
2017-05-31 00:36 Imouto OuO: 这里33的结尾到34 有个三连
2017-05-31 00:36 Imouto OuO: 正常的二分节奏 补点三连完全就够用了
2017-05-31 00:37 Imouto OuO: 00:36:516 (16,17) - 这里也是三连
2017-05-31 00:37 papapa213: 这里和00:35:802 (14,15) - 是一样的
2017-05-31 00:38 Imouto OuO: 但是节奏实际上是不一样的啊
2017-05-31 00:38 Imouto OuO: 这里14到17有什么特别的反复节奏吗
2017-05-31 00:38 papapa213: 主要是考虑到前面00:35:266 (11,12,13) - 过来 然后再跟三连会太激烈了
2017-05-31 00:38 Imouto OuO: 那也没有15和16之间莫名空一拍的理由吧
2017-05-31 00:40 papapa213: emmm怎么说呢
2017-05-31 00:40 Imouto OuO: qq上截了个图
2017-05-31 00:40 Imouto OuO: 觉得激烈的话这样摆也很简单的
2017-05-31 00:41 Imouto OuO: 其实我觉得你要玩空拍的话
2017-05-31 00:41 Imouto OuO: 直接跟人声也不错啊
2017-05-31 00:41 papapa213: 先保留
2017-05-31 00:41 papapa213: 不跟人声 讨厌人声
2017-05-31 00:42 Imouto OuO: 不跟人声的话
2017-05-31 00:44 Imouto OuO: 那跟鼓点感觉还是要再细致一点,有时候漏一些鼓点是为了突出一些特别的节奏,没特别的节奏随便漏就会比较难受
2017-05-31 00:44 Imouto OuO: 大致就先这样吧;w; 早点休息 加油/.\
加油;w;
Topic Starter
papapa213

CSGA-DarkArchon wrote:

wtf
:o :o
Imouto koko
From request
no kd
[Normal]
  1. 00:12:945 (1,2,3) - 这种叠滑条尾的梗在normal里是禁止的,换一种吧。
  2. 00:08:659 (1,2) - 00:16:516 (3,1) - 00:17:231 (1,2) - 02:05:088 (3,4) - 02:21:516 (3,4) - 03:27:231 (1,2) - 一眼就能看出来没包好的地方。
  3. 00:46:874 (2) - 这个滑条在局部的排列表现不太好,00:46:874 (2,1,3) - 这三个滑条撑起来一个相当丑的圆形,看着又缩又没张力,所以我建议换个方向。
  4. 00:48:302 (2,3) - ……摆歪了?
  5. 00:49:374 (5,6,7) - 丑了点,怎么也摆个圆弧,或者这样,也就举个栗子,顺带这种时候gs就很好用。
  6. 00:54:195 (3,4) - 01:59:909 (3,4) - 印象里在normal这样叠也是不能的。Edit:去问了一下能不能叠,答复是“不ok,o几把k.jpg” 所以是不行的。
  7. 01:22:945 (3,3,3) - 01:31:516 (4) - 02:22:945 (6) - 02:42:945 (1) - 低难度不要有1折返以上的滑条。忘了是不是禁止,总之起码也是不建议。
  8. 01:32:588 (5) - 换两个单点会比较好,这里这个停顿的重音很明显,用滑条尾部不够强调。于是01:34:374 (1) - 就应该和前一个单点重叠。
  9. 01:35:802 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5) - 这样不行,单点太多了。起码换掉一半,还有五个的那个也不能有。
  10. 01:46:696 (3,2) - 我觉得不叠01:46:696 (3) - 这个比较好,而且01:47:588 (2) - 不适合摆直的,有明显曲调变化的部分换弧形滑条效果好。
  11. 01:55:445 (2,1) - 轻微的错位,当然这个没毛病。
  12. 01:56:159 (1,3) - 丑cry。
  13. 02:24:374 (1,1) - 感觉果然……不太行,抄一个滑条去比较好。另外就算要摆这个形状,后面这个滑条中部也是丑cry,这种单独的弧线部分摆个参照再拉比较好,比如这样,一些弧度小的地方就没所谓了。
  14. 03:12:945 (1,1,1) - 这nc没必要吧。
  15. 03:18:659 (1,1,1) - ^
  16. 03:29:374 (6,7,1) - 个人不是很喜欢这些细微的错位,打图的时候稍微留心一下就很容易看出来一大堆,不太舒服。比如可以这样,当然后面的要重新包一下。

整体感觉超棒,和之前完全不是一个质量了。
Normal的节奏方面我好弱的,所以也没什么好建议;w;
才不是已经觉得很棒了什么的。
汪酱加油 :)
Sinon Asada
骗一豆()
来摸我图啊

normal
用AiMod查一下ds,有些不太对
00:13:302 (2,3) - normal不要这么叠啊,尽量都拉开
00:55:088 (1) - 是不是挡折返箭头了,没记错这个unrank的
01:22:945 (3) - 多次折返最好也别在normal下
01:38:659 (1,2,3) - 其实这种直接折返就行了
01:40:088 (1,2,3,4) - 这单点好多啊,有点过分

类似的还有很多

感觉节奏下的太满了啊,normal应该不能下的这么满,得看着漏些节奏...

我做了一段高潮你可以看看,虽然我水平也不行
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00:52:945 (1,2,3,4,5) - rc里面写“Avoid visually similar 1/2 and 1/1 spacing”,我不知道1-2、2-3和4-5这个算不算看着像的...
01:35:266 (1) - 这种我觉得完全可以下3连啊,你normal节奏那么慢到hard反而开始漏了...
01:52:320 - 02:30:802 - 类似这种很强的鼓漏掉了有点别扭,不过还行吧

insane
00:55:981 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) - 后面你nc了,这里也加上吧
02:24:374 (9) - nc吧
00:40:088 (8,1) - nc是不是应该放8上
01:09:909 (9,1,2,3,4) - 这地方感觉不太好看
感觉这个难度很好啊,比n和h好多了(
Topic Starter
papapa213

Imouto OuO wrote:

From request
no kd
[Normal]
  1. 00:12:945 (1,2,3) - 这种叠滑条尾的梗在normal里是禁止的,换一种吧。
  2. 00:08:659 (1,2) - 00:16:516 (3,1) - 00:17:231 (1,2) - 02:05:088 (3,4) - 02:21:516 (3,4) - 03:27:231 (1,2) - 一眼就能看出来没包好的地方。
  3. 00:46:874 (2) - 这个滑条在局部的排列表现不太好,00:46:874 (2,1,3) - 这三个滑条撑起来一个相当丑的圆形,看着又缩又没张力,所以我建议换个方向。
  4. 00:48:302 (2,3) - ……摆歪了?
  5. 00:49:374 (5,6,7) - 丑了点,怎么也摆个圆弧,或者这样,也就举个栗子,顺带这种时候gs就很好用。
  6. 00:54:195 (3,4) - 01:59:909 (3,4) - 印象里在normal这样叠也是不能的。Edit:去问了一下能不能叠,答复是“不ok,o几把k.jpg” 所以是不行的。
  7. 01:22:945 (3,3,3) - 01:31:516 (4) - 02:22:945 (6) - 02:42:945 (1) - 低难度不要有1折返以上的滑条。忘了是不是禁止,总之起码也是不建议。
  8. 01:32:588 (5) - 换两个单点会比较好,这里这个停顿的重音很明显,用滑条尾部不够强调。于是01:34:374 (1) - 就应该和前一个单点重叠。
  9. 01:35:802 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5) - 这样不行,单点太多了。起码换掉一半,还有五个的那个也不能有。
  10. 01:46:696 (3,2) - 我觉得不叠01:46:696 (3) - 这个比较好,而且01:47:588 (2) - 不适合摆直的,有明显曲调变化的部分换弧形滑条效果好。
  11. 01:55:445 (2,1) - 轻微的错位,当然这个没毛病。
  12. 01:56:159 (1,3) - 丑cry。
  13. 02:24:374 (1,1) - 感觉果然……不太行,抄一个滑条去比较好。另外就算要摆这个形状,后面这个滑条中部也是丑cry,这种单独的弧线部分摆个参照再拉比较好,比如这样,一些弧度小的地方就没所谓了。
  14. 03:12:945 (1,1,1) - 这nc没必要吧。
  15. 03:18:659 (1,1,1) - ^
  16. 03:29:374 (6,7,1) - 个人不是很喜欢这些细微的错位,打图的时候稍微留心一下就很容易看出来一大堆,不太舒服。比如可以这样,当然后面的要重新包一下。

整体感觉超棒,和之前完全不是一个质量了。
Normal的节奏方面我好弱的,所以也没什么好建议;w;
才不是已经觉得很棒了什么的。
汪酱加油 :)
all fixed ,感谢一摩托:) :) 一摩托萌,香草,没有一摩托我要死了

Sinon Asada wrote:

骗一豆()
来摸我图啊 摸哪个啊你也不说

normal
用AiMod查一下ds,有些不太对
00:13:302 (2,3) - normal不要这么叠啊,尽量都拉开 fixed
00:55:088 (1) - 是不是挡折返箭头了,没记错这个unrank的 fixed
01:22:945 (3) - 多次折返最好也别在normal下 fixed
01:38:659 (1,2,3) - 其实这种直接折返就行了 先不改
01:40:088 (1,2,3,4) - 这单点好多啊,有点过分fixed

类似的还有很多

感觉节奏下的太满了啊,normal应该不能下的这么满,得看着漏些节奏...参考了你的kiai段

我做了一段高潮你可以看看,虽然我水平也不行
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00:52:945 (1,2,3,4,5) - rc里面写“Avoid visually similar 1/2 and 1/1 spacing”,我不知道1-2、2-3和4-5这个算不算看着像的... 先不改吧,想玩这种梗
01:35:266 (1) - 这种我觉得完全可以下3连啊,你normal节奏那么慢到hard反而开始漏了...先这样吧,感觉没啥问题
01:52:320 - 02:30:802 - 类似这种很强的鼓漏掉了有点别扭,不过还行吧

insane
00:55:981 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) - 后面你nc了,这里也加上吧 fixed
02:24:374 (9) - nc吧 fixed
00:40:088 (8,1) - nc是不是应该放8上 fixed
01:09:909 (9,1,2,3,4) - 这地方感觉不太好看 fixed
感觉这个难度很好啊,比n和h好多了(
Sinon Asada (2017/6/20 23:54:13): 明天我再给你看图

then

2017年6月21日(星期三) 凌晨1:57
Re: [osu!] loos - koi yomi zakura
from Sinon Asada


感谢大SA哇 :) :) 大SA萌,香草,没有大SA我要死了
yf_bmp
Pata-Mon
这啊哇整天跟啪啪啪卖萌怪不得这弱智一直发春

yf无敌

irc
2017-06-24 16:49 Pata-Mon: 先说hard吧
2017-06-24 16:49 papapa213: 嗯
2017-06-24 16:50 Pata-Mon: 00:06:516 (1,1) - 这种没包好的大概有一堆我就不说了
2017-06-24 16:50 Pata-Mon: 而且主要讲讲更大的问题
2017-06-24 16:50 papapa213: 好..
2017-06-24 16:50 Pata-Mon: 00:07:231 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - 你这里节奏是什么思路 说一下
2017-06-24 16:50 papapa213: 我想一想
2017-06-24 16:51 papapa213: du的声音吧
2017-06-24 16:51 papapa213: du在滑条头
2017-06-24 16:51 Pata-Mon: 鼓声的话
2017-06-24 16:51 Pata-Mon: 00:07:231 (1,2,3,4) -
2017-06-24 16:51 Pata-Mon: 那你这两个还不如干脆换成1/1滑条
2017-06-24 16:51 Pata-Mon: 这打的时候还能明显感觉到你在跟鼓
2017-06-24 16:52 papapa213: 喔
2017-06-24 16:52 papapa213: 好
2017-06-24 16:52 Pata-Mon: 00:08:659 (1,2,3,4) - ds一直在变不知道怎么回事
2017-06-24 16:52 Pata-Mon: 这种细节多注意 正常来讲这种东西开着ds不会出这问题
2017-06-24 16:53 Pata-Mon: 00:10:802 (3,4) -
2017-06-24 16:53 Pata-Mon: 这个ds看不出是空一拍
2017-06-24 16:53 Pata-Mon: 要摆远
2017-06-24 16:53 Pata-Mon: 00:12:231 (1) - 这种明显变速你知道要加一次nc 那之后00:12:945 (2) - 这里的nc也不能忽略
2017-06-24 16:54 Pata-Mon: 00:35:802 (1,2,1,2) - 迷之节奏
2017-06-24 16:54 Pata-Mon: 你要想清楚你跟啥
2017-06-24 16:54 Pata-Mon: 永远要想清楚 想不清楚就容易做得有问题
2017-06-24 16:54 Pata-Mon: 当然都跟混合轨可以 但不管怎样节奏要有逻辑
2017-06-24 16:55 Pata-Mon: 00:42:945 (4,5,1,2,3) - 迷之节奏+1
2017-06-24 16:55 papapa213: 嗯……你那是网不好吗,我这收到两次
2017-06-24 16:55 Pata-Mon: 不知道
2017-06-24 16:56 Pata-Mon: 00:50:088 (4,1) - ds
2017-06-24 16:56 Pata-Mon: 00:52:945 (1,2) -
2017-06-24 16:56 Pata-Mon: 00:55:088 (1,2) - hard难度 变速别这么夸张 这根本看不出是1/4
2017-06-24 16:56 Pata-Mon: 哦 也不是1/4 你这snap都不对吧
2017-06-24 16:57 papapa213: snap不对
然后后面都在qq说的
Ametrin
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327,259,49374,2,0,L|336:357,1,80
174,336,50445,6,0,L|182:256,1,80
142,143,51338,2,0,P|90:116|32:126,1,120
11,204,52231,2,0,B|29:256|29:299,1,80
153,381,53302,6,0,B|153:355|171:303,1,80
197,186,54195,2,0,B|239:188|239:188|275:204|275:204|320:207,1,120
383,168,55088,2,0,B|401:116|401:90,1,80
356,23,55802,6,0,B|313:18|282:45|282:45|209:17|209:17|180:46|129:42,1,240
57,19,57231,1,0,0:0:0:0:
57,19,58659,6,0,P|72:108|82:205,1,160
73,257,59731,2,0,P|153:278|213:229,1,160
255,168,60802,2,0,L|256:115,2,40
300,233,61516,6,0,P|363:278|438:256,1,160
508,219,62588,1,0,0:0:0:0:
440,176,62945,2,0,P|422:130|417:70,2,80
505,30,64374,6,0,P|446:-11|339:18,1,160
305,56,65445,2,0,L|327:230,1,160
255,254,66516,2,0,L|256:323,2,40
186,214,67231,6,0,L|207:56,1,160
141,10,68302,1,0,0:0:0:0:
86,68,68659,2,0,P|34:73|-10:61,2,80
207,172,70088,6,0,P|128:185|88:273,1,160
48,318,71159,2,0,B|89:336|122:332|129:306|158:304|206:322,1,160
256,261,72231,2,0,L|256:198,2,40
308,320,72945,6,0,B|354:304|383:306|390:332|423:336|464:318,1,160
511,253,74016,1,0,0:0:0:0:
497,173,74374,2,0,P|469:140|425:106,2,80
338,192,75802,6,0,B|398:195|407:272|407:272|342:311|295:260,1,240
216,262,77231,2,0,B|182:312|111:282|111:282|110:206|177:191,1,240
216,122,78659,2,0,B|188:67|256:22|256:22|320:66|297:125,1,240
255,192,80088,5,0,0:0:0:0:
296,260,80445,2,0,P|333:266|393:262,2,80
216,260,81516,6,0,P|179:266|119:262,1,80
66,225,82231,2,0,L|49:120,1,80
78,70,82945,2,0,P|138:17|230:48,1,160
256,96,84016,1,0,0:0:0:0:
303,31,84374,2,0,P|340:11|396:24,1,80
439,63,85088,2,0,L|456:167,1,80
468,220,85802,2,0,P|408:273|327:235,1,160
255,113,87231,5,0,0:0:0:0:
254,192,87588,2,0,L|254:304,2,80
184,152,88659,2,0,P|110:130|54:182,1,160
38,261,89731,1,0,0:0:0:0:
59,337,90088,2,0,P|99:354|154:357,1,80
203,317,90802,2,0,L|219:220,1,80
295,240,91516,2,0,L|308:318,2,80
256,84,92945,5,0,0:0:0:0:
495,49,95802,6,0,P|470:123|454:216,1,160
371,339,97231,2,0,P|356:260|331:184,1,160
256,156,98302,1,0,0:0:0:0:
183,190,98659,2,0,P|157:265|143:344,1,160
59,209,100088,2,0,P|44:130|19:54,1,160
78,1,101159,1,0,0:0:0:0:
137,54,101516,6,0,P|186:62|231:55,1,80
296,58,102231,2,0,P|335:60|374:53,1,80
442,10,102945,1,0,0:0:0:0:
508,323,104374,6,0,P|456:250|470:178,1,160
336,277,105802,2,0,P|349:318|351:359,2,80
175,277,107231,2,0,P|162:318|160:359,2,80
227,216,108302,1,0,0:0:0:0:
178,152,108659,2,0,P|146:135|82:130,2,80
256,140,109731,1,0,0:0:0:0:
334,152,110088,6,0,P|366:135|497:141,1,160
430,286,111516,2,0,L|430:388,2,80
334,152,112945,6,0,P|276:138|241:144,1,80
185,177,113659,2,0,L|179:283,1,80
235,315,114374,2,0,B|278:320|309:293|309:293|382:321|382:321|411:292|457:296,1,240
420,140,116159,6,0,B|456:126|498:120,1,80
462,235,117052,2,0,P|400:245|344:210,1,120
328,143,117945,2,0,L|337:45,1,80
175,66,119016,6,0,L|183:146,1,80
143,259,119909,2,0,P|91:286|33:276,1,120
12,198,120802,2,0,B|30:146|30:103,1,80
154,21,121873,6,0,B|154:47|172:99,1,80
198,216,122766,2,0,B|240:214|240:214|276:198|276:198|321:195,1,120
384,234,123659,2,0,B|402:286|402:312,1,80
357,379,124373,6,0,B|314:384|283:357|283:357|210:385|210:385|181:356|130:360,1,240
58,383,125802,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,55,138659,5,0,0:0:0:0:
194,203,139373,1,0,0:0:0:0:
94,79,140087,2,0,P|85:2|82:-25,2,80
254,61,141516,5,0,0:0:0:0:
316,209,142230,1,0,0:0:0:0:
416,85,142945,2,0,P|425:8|428:-19,2,80
479,231,144374,6,0,P|422:242|394:244,2,80
356,333,145802,2,0,P|298:333|274:338,2,80
256,192,147231,12,0,149374,0:0:0:0:
18,83,150088,5,0,0:0:0:0:
97,91,150445,2,0,P|145:70|183:50,1,80
174,217,151516,2,0,P|161:264|160:322,2,80
334,217,152945,6,0,P|347:264|348:322,2,80
342,57,154374,2,0,P|378:75|414:90,1,80
494,83,155088,1,0,0:0:0:0:
413,221,155802,6,0,P|367:216|315:218,1,80
256,192,156516,1,0,0:0:0:0:
197,341,157231,2,0,P|160:366|108:371,2,80
99,221,158659,6,0,P|138:216|178:216,1,80
256,192,159373,1,0,0:0:0:0:
315,341,160088,2,0,P|347:364|386:372,2,80
415,216,161516,6,0,P|466:221|520:212,2,80
409,53,162945,6,0,P|451:34|494:14,2,80
311,100,164374,6,0,B|322:63|322:63|294:41|284:7|284:7|263:35|228:44|228:44|219:91|225:142|225:142|186:107|144:83|144:83|115:104|79:102|79:102|99:132|98:167|98:167|140:191|191:204|191:204|145:225|109:258|109:258|120:293|107:326|107:326|141:316|176:328|176:328|210:296|234:251|234:251|245:303|265:346|265:346|301:347|329:369|329:369|329:333|352:305|352:305|331:261|297:225|297:225|348:231|396:225|396:225|408:192|438:172|438:172|405:160|385:130|385:130|337:135|298:155,1,1612.79995078125
96,91,177231,1,0,0:0:0:0:
221,263,178659,1,0,0:0:0:0:
221,50,180088,1,0,0:0:0:0:
96,222,181516,5,0,0:0:0:0:
297,155,182945,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,341,184373,1,0,0:0:0:0:
168,129,185802,1,0,0:0:0:0:
298,282,187230,1,0,0:0:0:0:
72,28,190088,6,0,P|105:106|115:202,1,160
101,339,191516,2,0,P|149:314|197:306,1,80
223,244,192231,2,0,P|271:269|319:277,1,80
369,306,192945,2,0,P|378:344|378:384,2,80
360,226,194016,1,0,0:0:0:0:
354,145,194374,2,0,P|355:59|395:-3,1,160
259,85,195802,6,0,P|152:76|85:64,1,160
30,211,197231,2,0,P|82:201|120:198,1,80
174,243,197945,2,0,P|184:295|187:333,1,80
256,192,198659,12,0,200088,0:0:0:0:
455,365,204374,6,0,P|440:276|430:179,1,160
439,127,205446,2,0,P|359:106|299:155,1,160
257,216,206517,2,0,L|256:269,2,40
212,151,207231,6,0,P|149:106|74:128,1,160
4,165,208303,1,0,0:0:0:0:
72,208,208660,2,0,P|90:254|95:314,2,80
7,354,210089,6,0,P|66:395|173:366,1,160
207,328,211160,2,0,L|185:154,1,160
257,130,212231,2,0,L|256:61,2,40
326,170,212946,6,0,L|305:328,1,160
371,374,214017,1,0,0:0:0:0:
426,316,214374,2,0,P|478:311|522:323,2,80
305,212,215803,6,0,P|384:199|424:111,1,160
464,66,216874,2,0,B|423:48|390:52|383:78|354:80|306:62,1,160
256,123,217946,2,0,L|256:186,2,40
204,64,218660,6,0,B|158:80|129:78|122:52|89:48|48:66,1,160
1,131,219731,1,0,0:0:0:0:
15,211,220089,2,0,P|43:244|87:278,2,80
174,192,221517,6,0,B|114:189|105:112|105:112|170:73|217:124,1,240
296,122,222946,2,0,B|330:72|401:102|401:102|402:178|335:193,1,240
296,262,224374,2,0,B|324:317|256:362|256:362|192:318|215:259,1,240
257,192,225803,5,0,0:0:0:0:
255,112,226160,2,0,L|256:32,2,80
256,192,227231,12,0,229374,0:0:0:0:
256,172,230802,6,0,L|256:207,1,20

音效懒了 你normal下完直接复制下
2kd的位置就这么被我占了你怎么着吧(
不如找时间摸一下骗2kd

Edit: 你不要在曲子简介里搞事啊 yui.jpg



[Insane]
bn都来了 那摸就放这里好了
这个摸将十分鸡毛 很多是个人作图习惯 建议你看着办

00:05:802 (1) - 放80|132去 整体趋势往下你突然放那么高
00:06:516 (1,1) - 这都不包的咯
00:07:588 (3,4,5) - 45的间距应该比34大
00:09:016 (3,4,5) - ^
00:09:731 (8,9,1) - ^
00:10:624 (4) - ^ 放132|192
这一块的间距都可以微调一下
00:12:052 (5,6,7) - 短滑条加单点突出下7?顺便7可以nc
00:13:302 (2,3,4) - 34间距可以比23大 你这样打的没感觉 而且45贼大
00:14:641 (3) - 这个音怎么来的
00:16:070 (3) - ^ 你在00:12:945 (1,2) - 又没加圈 至少保持一致啊
00:20:981 (5) - 用00:19:552 (2) - 对称过去 别手拉
00:22:766 (8,1) - 我还是觉得1可以摆开打重音 比如1放119|236
00:23:838 (1,2,3) - 三连加原地单点 这种梗后面用了 可以用的更多 这里也不太好康
00:25:981 (3,3) - 没看出来你拉3/2是为啥 1/1踩人声不好吗
00:35:981 (2,3,4) - 00:34:909 (3,2,3,4) - 要么叠严实点要么拉开点
00:37:588 (3,4,5) - 用旋转120做对称好不好
00:40:981 (4,5,6) - 滑条中间可能出界了
00:42:231 (5,6,7,8) - 你就不能用00:41:516 (1,2,3,4) - 对称做吗==
00:43:659 (5,6,7,8) - ^
00:46:695 (1) - 尾巴叠到00:45:981 (2) - 头上 现在这样感觉就是没地方下只好放着这里
00:49:374 (4,5) - 这里不要直滑条 求求里
00:52:231 (4) - 朝下 跟着歌走
00:55:981 (2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - 毫无间距感==
你找到55802ms塞进去看吧我实在不知道怎么传
403,199,55802,5,12,2:0:0:0:
325,131,55981,1,0,2:0:0:0:
325,131,56070,1,0,2:0:0:0:
325,131,56159,1,8,2:0:0:0:
204,176,56338,5,0,2:0:0:0:
204,176,56427,1,0,2:0:0:0:
204,176,56516,1,8,2:0:0:0:
203,304,56695,5,0,2:0:0:0:
203,304,56784,1,0,2:0:0:0:
203,304,56874,1,8,2:0:0:0:
337,350,57052,5,0,2:0:0:0:
337,350,57141,1,0,2:0:0:0:
337,350,57231,1,12,3:2:0:0:
403,199,57409,6,0,B|300:237|317:150|212:189,1,195.999994018555,2|2,2:2|0:1,0:0:0:0:
215,188,58213,1,2,0:1:0:0:
215,188,58302,1,10,0:1:0:0:
215,188,58481,1,2,0:1:0:0:
顺便后面所有的部分都左右对称过去 flow就顺了(
01:01:516 (1) - 和前面近了 你看 01:06:874 (2,1) - 都拉到哪了
01:01:516 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - 这个对称拉太大了 搞得01:02:945 (1) - 只能飞的更远 然后你这段的间距感觉就有点崩
01:10:088 (1,2,3) - 这个大钝角可以再思考下
01:16:516 (3) - 这个滑条也太出戏了 不能这么水的啊
01:18:659 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - flow非常诡异 特别是中间那两个
01:20:445 (3,1,2,3,4) - 接的也太顺了
01:32:588 (1) - ctrl+g
01:41:159 (3,4,1,2) - 这个歌间距有点过
懒了 早饭都没吃
建议思考下整体间距的安排 音乐和缓的地方就不要出现很大的间距了 看着很出戏
美丽
Gust
摸一下Insane

[Insane]
  1. Ai mod还是没有把所有的问题改掉
  2. Overmap,01:04:106 (9) - 03:29:820 (9) - (虽然这个diff下了一些五连,但有些地方第四个note是有音的可以下,这两个地方我是听不出来有音。。)
  3. NC问题。一般是长白线下NC,根据歌曲的实际情况,或者是跟轨不同可以适当调整。
    00:05:802 (5) - 这里可以下

    00:15:088 (1) - 为什么要NC呢
    00:36:516 (1) - ^
    00:42:231 (5) - 如果上面两个地方可以NC,那这里也可以。但这里没有NC。这里不下NC是对的,所以前面两个的要改。(类似的就不再说了)

    00:59:552 (1,2,3) - 如果跟vocal的话也应该是在3下而不是1
    01:05:445 (3) - 同 (类似的也不再说了)

    01:35:266 (2) - 可以NC
    02:34:374 (3) - ^
    03:14:374 (5) - ^
    02:42:231 (5,6,1,2) - 这里提供一个改法:6下NC,2下NC,1不用下
    03:36:695 (1) - 不用NC
  4. 物件位置
    00:16:159 (4,6) - 6可以往下来一些
    00:32:588 (3,4,2) - 2不在另外两个的正中
    00:39:016 (4,5,7) - 这边间距为什么这么小。。
    00:41:516 (1,6,7,8) - 是不是开着堆叠效果做图了。。。
    01:34:374 (1,2,3,4,5,2) - ^
    01:47:945 (5,7) - 不是完全重合的
  5. 节奏
    00:07:409 (2,3,2,3) - 我看了一下,全图似乎只有开头这里下成这样,推荐换一种下法。这样不仅不统一看着还有点乱
    00:33:302 (1,2,1,2) - 我是觉得这里只下成4个1/2滑条打起来有些无趣。。
    01:41:874 (1,2,1,2) - ^
    02:00:802 (5,6) - 这里ds为什么这么小
    02:23:838 (6,7,8) - 这3个应该减少ds,不应该和前面的保持一样
    03:50:802 (1,2) - 这是1/3不是1/4
位置和节奏我的能力有限说不出太多:(
有点想做gd了
祝早日起飞
a_point
新人来水星了。 :D :D :D :D :D
感谢姐姐的照顾。

Hard
02:28:659 (1,2,1) - 这点节奏有点迷,测试的时候以为不是连打,因为这点节奏是先两个calp clap 然后再有一个急速的木鱼,因此会误以为前面一个滑条的尾巴是打在第一个clap上的,绿2是打在木鱼上的。我建议把连打换成滑条。否则hard玩家很难辨别啊。 :D :D :D

Insane
03:15:266 (1,2,3,4) - 这里有点坑啊。。。以为是四个连打。
00:58:213 (2,3,4) - 同上。
01:35:266 (2,3,4,5) - Σ(っ °Д °;)っ这是个梗吗,是不是我太垃圾了。。。
02:00:802 (5,6) - 间距难读,感觉是连打。
02:24:374 (1,1,1,1,2,1,2) - 这一串感觉要疯了。。。建议每一个快速折返,前面加1个note。
03:20:624 (3) - 也许可以用折返。

yf's Expert
00:35:624 (3,4,1) - note和滑条的角度不一样。

Generral
总之就是NC有点乱啊。。。 :cry: :cry: :cry:
sodarose
抱歉咕咕了两天
检查AImod

[Insane]
00:04:016 (7,8,1) - 前面都是随着音乐一直放大间距,但这里却刹车了。怎么说呢,我不喜欢因为放梗而这样缩小间距
00:07:409 (2,3) - 一般都是滑条接note的,而且这样还能做得比较机霸。不过是个人意见
00:13:838 (5,6) - 00:14:552 (2,3) - 00:15:356 (3) - 00:15:981 (2,3) - 你这里三连的间距全都是不平衡的,一边大一边小
00:23:927 (3) - ^
00:32:409 (1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2) - 你这串都挤在一起了。至少做到对称让他们好看些不至于看上去像是随便摆的
01:15:266 (6,7,8) - 同上上,后面很多地方也是
03:11:516 (1,2,3) - 怎么感觉你排版下蹦了。请根据节奏下梗而不是用梗下节奏
[Hard]
从开头到第一段kiai基本全是直的滑条,请适当的弯♂一下,有些地方太直了不好看
01:24:374 (8) - NC 。。。 你的NC好像很乱啊,为什么有几个小节特别长
03:08:659 (1) - 删掉
03:18:659 (1,2) - 怎么这样下,前面都没有的
呃,我觉得你应该多看看hard的排版

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meta
meta的话虽然我不是很懂,但是...
loos应该是社团名,Artist就要统一一下了,要么直接两个都是loos,要么 loos feat.柊莉杏,下面一栏就的柊莉杏就写罗马音,要么就直接写柊莉杏,下面一栏写罗马音,Artist是Vocal然后Romanised Artist是社团名是不行的。
Romanised Title的koi yomi zakura好像也有问题,Koi Yomi Zakura首字母大写。
Tag加上オモイヨシノ
我的渣meta只能帮到这了,你找下骏妈、Ryuusei Aika试下。

Insane
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00:22:588 (3,4) - 怎这个间距就变大了,前面不是都在慢慢缩减的吗,听音乐感觉也是减弱的,不要太纠结于stack
00:25:624 (2) - 为啥不是个三连/折返,00:25:624 - 00:25:713 - 这两个音这么明显
00:27:231 (1) - 00:30:088 (1) - 太吃藕了
00:32:588 (3,4) - 00:33:302 (1,2) - 00:34:016 (1,2) - 前2组间距随着音乐加大挺多的,怎后2组就加大了一丁点
00:32:945 (4,2,2) - 并不好看,推荐中间的滑条保持原样,然后左右是互相镜像
00:58:213 (2,3,4) - i标这样stack感觉有点过分了
00:59:016 (3,4) - 怎他们间距辣么大
01:02:945 - 感觉从这里开始才是kiai里1/2跳间距达到最大值,但是你这里间距变化并不大
01:04:374 - 然后这里就应该恢复正常间距^ 但是并没有太大区分
01:08:659 - 这里开始就应该缩小1/2间距^因为明显voice减弱了
后半段kiai相同参考^
01:19:195 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - 间距修好
01:20:266 (1,2,3) - 为啥这没加大间距
01:21:516 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - 这里间距奇小,01:24:374 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - 这里间距奇大,明明音乐没怎么变
01:35:266 (2,3,4,5) - 如果这是故意和01:34:374 (1) - 隔开的话就太吃藕了
02:06:784 (2,3,4) -
02:29:552 (2) - NC,给点提示,之前的1/2 02:28:659 (1,2) - 也NC了
02:44:374 - 为啥这个重音没note??
03:08:659 (1) - 第二个音应该是在03:08:704 - ,教你 这样比较好玩
第二段kiai问题和第一段kiai一样

03:50:802 (1,2) - 大兄弟,叠上去好不好 03:49:374 (10) -

为什么感觉后面做的比前面好多了

Hard
Hard我就先大致看下

首先和Insane一样设置预览取消倒数,再加一个统一是否启用宽屏sb(虽然这个并不是很重要)

然后hard的话,像00:11:874 (3,1) - 这么大间距的1/2是不推荐的,虽然rc只是说hard不能跨屏跳,但是感觉真的太大了,还有hard变速不能太突然,像00:12:231 (1) - 这个滑条就瞬间从1x 变为0.55x
01:21:516 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) - 01:27:231 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14) - 01:38:838 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14) - NC一下好不好
02:42:945 (1,2,3,4,5) - 感觉间距太小,这clap这么激昂间距应该很大才对,这甚至比前面小
02:44:374 - 和insane一样
03:24:017 (1,1) - 前面一堆1/2stack的梗,然后你这个突然1/1stack?
03:19:016 (2) - 还有这个1/4建议0拖出来一点和1/2的stack区别一下,毕竟只是hard难度

越看你这排列越像hyper

美丽

gl!

yf牛逼
yf_bmp
角度是故意的
自己修了点
http://puu.sh/xLZBH/3ab80b8170.zip
LITEON
看了一下你insane的edit之后稍微打了一下
Insane

你预览点的黄线是不是没弄啊
00:03:481 (4,5) - 作为开头这个地方的跳我觉得有点突兀的感觉/又或者是跳的角度对我来说有点别扭的感觉(大概这就是菜吧)。其他这里的问题我看过一下有人也提出了我就不说了

00:24:016 (4) - 这里滑条尾部的finish换成soft-finish2的会不会好点?其他地方应该也有类似的建议不过这种歌的音效我也听不好emmm....

00:38:838 - 你这的绿线没对齐吧、03:32:856 - 同上

00:55:266 - 你这里的绿线既然是想消掉滑条尾音的话把00:55:088 (4,5) - 这两个滑条的尾部拉到蓝色的线可以有更好(几把)的效果哦、01:41:516 (4) - 这里同上(笑)

01:18:659 (1) - 关于这里的连续三连的话。首先01:18:838 (2) - 的绿线应该放在前面的note吧?然后关于这里的摆法我会放成滑条接note再接滑条这种节奏。不过这毕竟是我的作图方向我也只是提个建议(其实是太菜打不动渐变三连)00:55:802 (1) - 这里也同样适用于上面的话。其实你甚至可以在每一段三连插一条绿线加个渐变vol.(LOL)最后我觉得适用于渐变三连的是这里03:44:374 -

01:17:945 (1) - 你这里的绿线是想突出滑条速度吧。这样的话不如从01:17:231 (1) - 这里一个滑条插一个绿线做一个渐变速度会不会更好?

01:27:231 (1) - 此处的滑条折返听上去好像不太对的上节奏,可以不加折返把01:27:231 (1) - 这里改成一个单点note然后在01:28:124 - 这位置加两个note连上后面的滑条弄成一个连打。而且就算不需要改你01:27:231 (1) - 这里的绿线有点意义不明的感觉、01:26:695 (6) - 的绿线同上

01:44:820 - 01:46:963 - 01:48:570 - 01:49:820 - 01:50:534 - 至01:51:963 - 01:52:677 - 02:42:856 - 03:09:820 - 03:15:713 - 03:32:141 - 03:32:856 - 这些绿线就不能放在note上面吗。虽然好像没有强制要求但是看着很别扭稍微弄美观点吧

03:20:802 (2) - 你这个滑条的形状能不能稍微......弄好一点.....做一个普通的四白点一红点的然后拉个突出的弧形都OK吧、你这个毛毛虫(?)一样的形状太出戏了我看着有点闹心


暂时先这么多吧,剩下的还要慢慢研究。
PS:你都要飞图了我还在咸鱼中,我真鸡儿丢人
Topic Starter
papapa213
Gust

Gust wrote:

摸一下Insane

[Insane]
  1. Ai mod还是没有把所有的问题改掉 改了
  2. Overmap,01:04:106 (9) - 03:29:820 (9) - (虽然这个diff下了一些五连,但有些地方第四个note是有音的可以下,这两个地方我是听不出来有音。。)改了
  3. NC问题。一般是长白线下NC,根据歌曲的实际情况,或者是跟轨不同可以适当调整。
    00:05:802 (5) - 这里可以下

    00:15:088 (1) - 为什么要NC呢
    00:36:516 (1) - ^
    00:42:231 (5) - 如果上面两个地方可以NC,那这里也可以。但这里没有NC。这里不下NC是对的,所以前面两个的要改。(类似的就不再说了)

    00:59:552 (1,2,3) - 如果跟vocal的话也应该是在3下而不是1
    01:05:445 (3) - 同 (类似的也不再说了)

    01:35:266 (2) - 可以NC
    02:34:374 (3) - ^
    03:14:374 (5) - ^
    02:42:231 (5,6,1,2) - 这里提供一个改法:6下NC,2下NC,1不用下
    03:36:695 (1) - 不用NC NCallfix
  4. 物件位置
    00:16:159 (4,6) - 6可以往下来一些 这段改了排列
    00:32:588 (3,4,2) - 2不在另外两个的正中 fixed
    00:39:016 (4,5,7) - 这边间距为什么这么小。。 加大了
    00:41:516 (1,6,7,8) - 是不是开着堆叠效果做图了。。。 改了
    01:34:374 (1,2,3,4,5,2) - ^ 改了
    01:47:945 (5,7) - 不是完全重合的 改了
  5. 节奏
    00:07:409 (2,3,2,3) - 我看了一下,全图似乎只有开头这里下成这样,推荐换一种下法。这样不仅不统一看着还有点乱 先不改
    00:33:302 (1,2,1,2) - 我是觉得这里只下成4个1/2滑条打起来有些无趣。。 keep on,我觉得还行
    01:41:874 (1,2,1,2) - ^ ^
    02:00:802 (5,6) - 这里ds为什么这么小 改了
    02:23:838 (6,7,8) - 这3个应该减少ds,不应该和前面的保持一样 改了
    03:50:802 (1,2) - 这是1/3不是1/4
改了

位置和节奏我的能力有限说不出太多:(
有点想做gd了
祝早日起飞

a_point

a_point wrote:

新人来水星了。 :D :D :D :D :D
感谢姐姐的照顾。

Insane
03:15:266 (1,2,3,4) - 这里有点坑啊。。。以为是四个连打。 这样我觉得没什么问题
00:58:213 (2,3,4) - 同上。
01:35:266 (2,3,4,5) - Σ(っ °Д °;)っ这是个梗吗,是不是我太垃圾了。。。
02:00:802 (5,6) - 间距难读,感觉是连打。 fixed
02:24:374 (1,1,1,1,2,1,2) - 这一串感觉要疯了。。。建议每一个快速折返,前面加1个note。 好像是没什么问题
03:20:624 (3) - 也许可以用折返。 就这样吧,折返没有移动不是很喜欢

Generral
总之就是NC有点乱啊。。。 :cry: :cry: :cry:
NC问题我之后再统一改一次

sodarose

sodarose wrote:

抱歉咕咕了两天
检查AImod

[Insane]
00:04:016 (7,8,1) - 前面都是随着音乐一直放大间距,但这里却刹车了。怎么说呢,我不喜欢因为放梗而这样缩小间距 fixed
00:07:409 (2,3) - 一般都是滑条接note的,而且这样还能做得比较机霸。不过是个人意见 那先不动这里
00:13:838 (5,6) - 00:14:552 (2,3) - 00:15:356 (3) - 00:15:981 (2,3) - 你这里三连的间距全都是不平衡的,一边大一边小 重新检查了一遍全图的三连间距
00:23:927 (3) - ^
00:32:409 (1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2) - 你这串都挤在一起了。至少做到对称让他们好看些不至于看上去像是随便摆的 fixed
01:15:266 (6,7,8) - 同上上,后面很多地方也是
03:11:516 (1,2,3) - 怎么感觉你排版下蹦了。请根据节奏下梗而不是用梗下节奏 这里我把2ctrl+g了一下

加油

鱼骨

Yugu wrote:

占坑
M4M from 超级炫酷大佬云集群内弱鸡只有我一个 的HW群

meta的话虽然我不是很懂,但是...
loos应该是社团名,Artist就要统一一下了,要么直接两个都是loos,要么 loos feat.柊莉杏,下面一栏就的柊莉杏就写罗马音,要么就直接写柊莉杏,下面一栏写罗马音,Artist是Vocal然后Romanised Artist是社团名是不行的。
Romanised Title的koi yomi zakura好像也有问题,Koi Yomi Zakura首字母大写。
Tag加上オモイヨシノ
我的渣meta只能帮到这了,你找下骏妈、Ryuusei Aika试下。
meta的话最后gd齐了我再统一改,这个一开始写的时候确实不知道那么多

插预览Timing
关倒计时 这些之后再统一改

00:22:588 (3,4) - 怎这个间距就变大了,前面不是都在慢慢缩减的吗,听音乐感觉也是减弱的,不要太纠结于stack fixed
00:25:624 (2) - 为啥不是个三连/折返,00:25:624 - 00:25:713 - 这两个音这么明显 感觉现在这样就好
00:27:231 (1) - 00:30:088 (1) - 太吃藕了 就这一小段,吃藕就吃藕吧(
00:32:588 (3,4) - 00:33:302 (1,2) - 00:34:016 (1,2) - 前2组间距随着音乐加大挺多的,怎后2组就加大了一丁点 稍微再加大了点间距
00:32:945 (4,2,2) - 并不好看,推荐中间的滑条保持原样,然后左右是互相镜像 fixed
00:58:213 (2,3,4) - i标这样stack感觉有点过分了 想留着
00:59:016 (3,4) - 怎他们间距辣么大 这段重新下了排列
01:02:945 - 感觉从这里开始才是kiai里1/2跳间距达到最大值,但是你这里间距变化并不大 加大了点
01:04:374 - 然后这里就应该恢复正常间距^ 但是并没有太大区分这段重新下了排列
01:08:659 - 这里开始就应该缩小1/2间距^因为明显voice减弱了
后半段kiai相同参考^
01:19:195 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - 间距修好 fixed
01:20:266 (1,2,3) - 为啥这没加大间距 fixed
01:21:516 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - 这里间距奇小,01:24:374 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - 这里间距奇大,明明音乐没怎么变 fixed
01:35:266 (2,3,4,5) - 如果这是故意和01:34:374 (1) - 隔开的话就太吃藕了 开堆叠是叠上的
02:06:784 (2,3,4) - ^
02:29:552 (2) - NC,给点提示,之前的1/2 02:28:659 (1,2) - 也NC了 fixed
02:44:374 - 为啥这个重音没note?? fixed
03:08:659 (1) - 第二个音应该是在03:08:704 - fixed,教你 这样比较好玩 no
第二段kiai问题和第一段kiai一样

03:50:802 (1,2) - 大兄弟,叠上去好不好 03:49:374 (10) - 开堆叠是叠上的

为什么感觉后面做的比前面好多了

美丽

gl!

yf牛逼

liteon

LITEON wrote:

看了一下你insane的edit之后稍微打了一下
Insane

你预览点的黄线是不是没弄啊 这个到最后再统一弄
00:03:481 (4,5) - 作为开头这个地方的跳我觉得有点突兀的感觉/又或者是跳的角度对我来说有点别扭的感觉(大概这就是菜吧)。其他这里的问题我看过一下有人也提出了我就不说了 这里稍微调整了一下

00:24:016 (4) - 这里滑条尾部的finish换成soft-finish2的会不会好点?其他地方应该也有类似的建议不过这种歌的音效我也听不好emmm.... fixed

00:38:838 - 你这的绿线没对齐吧、03:32:856 - 同上 fixed

00:55:266 - 你这里的绿线既然是想消掉滑条尾音的话把00:55:088 (4,5) - 这两个滑条的尾部拉到蓝色的线可以有更好(几把)的效果哦、01:41:516 (4) - 这里同上(笑) 拉到蓝线感觉就是弹两下就没了,感觉比较空

01:18:659 (1) - 关于这里的连续三连的话。首先01:18:838 (2) - 的绿线应该放在前面的note吧?然后关于这里的摆法我会放成滑条接note再接滑条这种节奏。不过这毕竟是我的作图方向我也只是提个建议(其实是太菜打不动渐变三连)00:55:802 (1) - 这里也同样适用于上面的话。其实你甚至可以在每一段三连插一条绿线加个渐变vol.(LOL)最后我觉得适用于渐变三连的是这里03:44:374 - 绿线没啥问题,渐变的话感觉现在这样就挺好的所以懒得弄了(

01:17:945 (1) - 你这里的绿线是想突出滑条速度吧。这样的话不如从01:17:231 (1) - 这里一个滑条插一个绿线做一个渐变速度会不会更好?这样下绿线分成两段是因为01:17:945 (1) - 才开始升高的音

01:27:231 (1) - 此处的滑条折返听上去好像不太对的上节奏,可以不加折返把01:27:231 (1) - 这里改成一个单点note然后在01:28:124 - 这位置加两个note连上后面的滑条弄成一个连打。而且就算不需要改你01:27:231 (1) - 这里的绿线有点意义不明的感觉、01:26:695 (6) - 的绿线同上 折返保留,01:28:124 - 加了个note,绿线调整了一下

01:44:820 - 01:46:963 - 01:48:570 - 01:49:820 - 01:50:534 - 至01:51:963 - 01:52:677 - 02:42:856 - 03:09:820 - 03:15:713 - 03:32:141 - 03:32:856 - 这些绿线就不能放在note上面吗。虽然好像没有强制要求但是看着很别扭稍微弄美观点吧 fixed

03:20:802 (2) - 你这个滑条的形状能不能稍微......弄好一点.....做一个普通的四白点一红点的然后拉个突出的弧形都OK吧、你这个毛毛虫(?)一样的形状太出戏了我看着有点闹心 毛毛虫挺好的,我喜欢毛毛虫

暂时先这么多吧,剩下的还要慢慢研究。
PS:你都要飞图了我还在咸鱼中,我真鸡儿丢人

最近有点忙所以改的比较晚,insane结合了各位的摸好好重新大修了一遍,先把insane改完了,hard的话之后改完再回,非常感谢各位摸图 :) :) :)
buhei
irc with papapa213
20:20 *papapa213 is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/1272051 loos - koi yomi zakura]
20:20 buhei: scorev2是不是不算pp
20:21 buhei: 不上传成绩?
20:21 papapa213: 好像是
20:21 papapa213: 这我不清楚...我是fallback
20:21 papapa213: 没有v2
20:21 papapa213: 但是是不算pp的
20:28 buhei: 你的insane是不是有更新
20:28 buhei: 有更新的话你先上传吧
20:28 papapa213: 就加了一个音效
20:28 papapa213: 等改改再传
20:33 buhei: 需要我test你的难度吗
20:33 buhei: 需要的话你上传一下我这边更新一下
20:34 papapa213: 只改了一个音效 没有变别的东西
20:35 papapa213: 我这更一下吧,回头我再改,这里网不太好上传比较麻烦
20:35 papapa213: 第一次做;w; 爷爷能说一下吗
20:35 buhei: 行吧
20:36 buhei: 我先打一打
20:36 *buhei is playing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1272051 loos - koi yomi zakura [Insane]]
20:40 buhei: 整体来看还是不错的
20:41 papapa213: 嗯嗯,谢谢
20:41 buhei: 就是最后一段有点吓人
20:41 buhei: 我出了一堆100.。
20:41 buhei: 就是最后一段有点吓人
20:41 buhei: 比如这里
20:41 buhei: 03:23:659 (1) -
20:42 buhei: 我不鼓励把这个重音放在滑条尾
20:42 papapa213: 啊,这里我需要改一下
20:42 papapa213: 嗯
20:42 buhei: 我打图的时候03:24:552 (1) - 这个打早了
20:42 papapa213: 加一个原地单点可以吗?
20:42 buhei: 可以
20:42 buhei: 03:24:552 (1) -
20:42 buhei: 这个我之所以打早
20:42 papapa213: 嗯 我懂
20:42 buhei: 就是因为我觉得重音再淡点的地方
20:42 buhei: 单点*
20:43 buhei: 03:50:802 (1,2) -
20:43 buhei: 这节奏不对
20:43 buhei: 你用25%听一下
20:43 papapa213: 哦这里我改了
20:43 papapa213: 没传= =
20:43 papapa213: 灵异事件 我一开始放的是1/3 然后
20:44 papapa213: 不知道为什么变成1/4了 别人说了改了还没传
20:44 buhei: 其实我觉得这里对acc不很友好
20:44 buhei: 233
20:44 papapa213: 是啊
20:44 papapa213: 最后这个1/3想的就是坑SS?
20:45 buhei: 如果我前面那段没出一堆100看到这两个note我肯定想打人
20:45 buhei: 233
20:45 papapa213: 你好强啊...我只能打95acc
20:46 buhei: orz
20:46 buhei: 00:25:624 (2,3) -
20:46 buhei: 这种设计就很好
20:47 buhei: 00:31:695 (3,1,2,3) - 这种慢速滑条后面跟一个间距稍大的三连我挺喜欢的
20:47 papapa213: 是吗,这么好的
20:47 papapa213: 2333你这画风和别人不一样啊,我找别人看图上来都是说一堆不好
20:49 buhei: 你这个图的问题是整体的。。
20:49 buhei: 局部有出彩的地方
20:49 papapa213: 嗯
20:49 buhei: 233
20:50 buhei: 整体显得 没梗
20:50 papapa213: 没梗
20:50 papapa213: 贪吃蛇
20:51 buhei: 这种图对我来说最好刷pp。。我打无梗长图pp多
20:51 buhei: 所以我自然会给你说好话233
20:51 buhei: 你这给我的一个很明显的感觉就是
20:51 papapa213: 飞的好快啊 我记得之前看你的时候还不到3000pp
20:51 buhei: 摆的有点没规矩
20:51 papapa213: 没规矩
20:52 buhei: 你看你这段
20:52 buhei: 00:35:802 (1) -
20:52 buhei: 这段往后
20:52 buhei: 间距奇小
20:52 buhei: 感觉像打hard
20:52 buhei: 00:41:516 (1) -
20:52 buhei: 主要从这往后
20:53 papapa213: 嗯,我记下了,想想怎么改
20:53 buhei: 这往后几个间距小的让人有点哭笑不得
20:53 buhei: 然而
20:53 buhei: 你在后面,音乐完全相同的地方
20:53 buhei: 01:49:374 (1) -
20:53 buhei: 一堆大间距三连
20:53 buhei: 难度突升让人误以为到了kiai
20:53 papapa213: 嗯 明白了
20:53 papapa213: 我改一改
20:54 buhei: 这就是为什么我说你摆的有点没规矩,因为音乐相通的地方难度差的太大了
20:54 buhei: 还有就是考虑可以美观的地方
20:54 buhei: 比如02:28:659 (1,2,1,2,3) -
20:55 buhei: 这五个明显可以考虑搞个左右对称
20:55 buhei: 这个看起来有点随意
20:55 papapa213: 咦 不对称吗
20:56 buhei: 这反正我没看出来233
20:56 papapa213: 好像右边3外了些
20:56 papapa213: 歪了些
20:56 buhei: 不不不是这个原因
20:56 buhei: 怎么说呢
20:56 buhei: 你摆正了。。
20:56 buhei: 让玩家能感觉到是对称的啊
20:57 papapa213: 摆正了
20:57 papapa213: 嗯 我回头改
20:57 buhei: 其实我还有一个意思就是
20:57 buhei: 你这虽然对称了但还是贪吃蛇flow
20:58 buhei: 可以跳一点的这里
20:58 papapa213: 好
20:59 buhei: 怎么截图来着
20:59 papapa213: 呃
20:59 papapa213: 我也不知道...
20:59 papapa213: shift f12吧
21:00 buhei: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8709979
21:00 buhei: 比如搞成这个味道
21:00 papapa213: 好,我参考下
21:00 buhei: 让人能有一种明显的切换感
21:03 buhei: 03:10:088 (1) -
21:03 buhei: 再有就是这段有点吓人吧
21:03 papapa213: 有点快?
21:03 buhei: 你可能是为了配合后面的鼓
21:03 buhei: 不过这sv还是略快
21:03 papapa213: 嗯 改慢点
21:04 buhei: 这不是重点
21:04 buhei: 主要是
21:04 buhei: 这一段你全用1/2滑条堆过去有点敷衍吧
21:04 papapa213: 是啊23333
21:04 buhei: 你比方说这个
21:04 buhei: 03:13:659 (3) -
21:04 papapa213: 不过感觉还挺漂亮的就没改(
21:04 buhei: 滑条尾部有鼓
21:04 buhei: 还挺明显的
21:05 buhei: 为什么不好好抓这个节奏呢
21:05 papapa213: 嗯,这段我做别的难度的时候感觉出来了
21:05 papapa213: 不该1/2塞爆
21:05 buhei: 这种鼓抓好了很出彩的
21:05 buhei: 用1/2滑条堆过去太可惜了
21:05 papapa213: 嗯
21:05 papapa213: 我试试做出花
21:05 buhei: 03:17:231 (1,2) -
21:05 buhei: 这俩也是
21:05 buhei: 尾部有鼓
21:05 buhei: 利用好这种特殊节奏
21:06 buhei: 这样能体现出你的图是为了这个曲子做的,而不是随便什么曲子都行
21:06 papapa213: 嗯
21:06 buhei: 这也是为什么我觉得00:28:481 (2,3) - 这里很好
21:06 papapa213: 其实这段一开始也是塞爆的...
21:06 buhei: 岁了
21:06 papapa213: 还是单点塞爆
21:06 buhei: 对了*
21:07 buhei: 你作图的时候
21:07 buhei: 没用皮肤自带音效吧
21:07 papapa213: 啊?
21:07 papapa213: 做图用皮肤自带音效?
21:07 buhei: 曲奇皮肤那个
21:07 buhei: 哒哒哒
21:07 buhei: 的
21:07 buhei: 没用吧
21:07 papapa213: 我自己找的音效
21:07 buhei: 没用就行233
21:07 papapa213: 而且我做图会换成默认皮肤
21:07 buhei: 对了
21:07 buhei: 02:00:802 (5,6) -
21:07 buhei: 这里有点迷
21:08 papapa213: 有点近
21:08 buhei: 嗯
21:08 buhei: 关于音效
21:08 buhei: 02:05:802 (3) -
21:08 buhei: 比如这个地方
21:08 papapa213: 加重音
21:08 buhei: 这堆单点你就whistle塞爆
21:09 buhei: 你这个whistle音是有回声的,就会稍微有点抢镜
21:09 buhei: 02:05:802 (3) - 这个note
21:09 buhei: 把whistle换成clap试试
21:11 papapa213: 不太会下音效,音效大概是要re一遍
21:11 papapa213: 下的有些乱
21:11 buhei: 你按我刚才说的
21:11 buhei: 改那一个note
21:11 papapa213: 嗯 你说的改了
21:12 buhei: 我个人感觉比whistle塞爆好
21:18 *buhei is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1272126 loos - koi yomi zakura [Hard]]
21:18 papapa213: 我在看
21:18 papapa213: 低难度我没怎么加音效...
21:19 buhei: 不要大段复制粘贴
21:19 papapa213: 好...
21:19 buhei: 01:54:552 (2) - 连这个长度错了的滑条都粘贴下来了
21:20 buhei: 很让人扫兴
21:20 buhei: 这里属于节奏特殊的地方
21:20 buhei: 结果你搞的和前面一模一样
21:20 buhei: 打图的时候感觉特别扫兴
21:20 buhei: 03:10:088 (1) - 这段处理得很好,你的insane可以参考一下这种节奏
21:20 buhei: 稍微把一些空隙用滑条尾填上也行
21:20 papapa213: 嗯
21:21 buhei: 注意重音要有点击的操作
21:21 buhei: 就行了
21:21 papapa213: 嗯
21:22 buhei: 这hard也有点缺梗
21:22 buhei: 不过主要问题是复制粘贴
21:22 papapa213: 好...
21:22 papapa213: 偷懒了
21:24 buhei: 你摸图吗
21:25 papapa213: 不太会摸,在学习摸图;w;
21:25 papapa213: 如果可以的话我想摸摸看

irc with Imouto koko
11:51 Imouto koko: https://puu.sh/xMjdG/37a3afab11.osz koko's Insane
11:51 Imouto koko: none或者hd都行
11:52 buhei: zaixia
11:52 Imouto koko: 嗯嗯
11:52 Imouto koko: 。忘了换皮肤
11:54 buhei: wo dai ge er ji
11:54 Imouto koko: 嗯嗯
11:59 buhei: 可以说是非常好了
11:59 Imouto koko: tkpl 上来就fc
11:59 Imouto koko: pwp
11:59 buhei: 你做的图 我打着当然舒服啦
11:59 Imouto koko: 算是尝试了一点自己想做的方向
11:59 Imouto koko: 不过这图还是很常规)
12:00 buhei: 00:12:231 (1) -
12:00 buhei: 放远一点试试
12:00 Imouto koko: 好
12:00 Imouto koko: 我放上面吧
12:00 buhei: 00:28:838 (1) -
12:00 buhei: 形状稍微斟酌一下
12:00 buhei: 这个弧度歪了
12:00 Imouto koko: 噗
12:00 Imouto koko: 好
12:01 buhei: 00:31:695 (1) -
12:01 buhei: 这也有点点丑
12:02 Imouto koko: 我改改
12:02 Imouto koko: 虽然其实……不太会拉
12:02 Imouto koko: 对称就好了应该?
12:02 buhei: 差不多吧
12:02 buhei: 00:44:552 (2,3) -
12:02 buhei: 你 ctrl+G看看行不行
12:02 buhei: 还有00:45:266 (2,3) - 这两个
12:03 buhei: 只是小建议 你要是觉得都没差也无所谓
12:03 Imouto koko: 感觉改了之后会顺手,就是风格有点转变
12:03 buhei: 是
12:03 Imouto koko: 我再想想好了)
12:03 buhei: 你这个比较贪吃蛇
12:03 buhei: 注重节奏多一点
12:03 buhei: 没啥跳
12:03 Imouto koko: 有那么一点点故意贪吃蛇的意思)
12:03 buhei: 看出来了hh
12:04 Imouto koko: 嗯因为我自己不会打跳嘛
12:04 buhei: 01:31:070 -
12:04 buhei: 漏了个音
12:05 Imouto koko: 这个我也发现漏了……但是感觉跟了和我预期的不太一样
12:05 Imouto koko: 可以不跟么
12:05 buhei: 可以
12:05 Imouto koko: 要是跟的话我应该是把4放到3的结尾然后加个note
12:05 buhei: 跟肯定好一点
12:05 Imouto koko: 这样就又是遮挡梗了 噗
12:06 Imouto koko: 好,改了
12:06 buhei: 01:59:731 (4,1) -
12:06 buhei: 你有没有发现问题
12:07 Imouto koko: 。没发现o.o
12:07 buhei: 01:59:909 -
12:07 buhei: 这是重音
12:07 buhei: 你放在滑条尾上了
12:07 Imouto koko: 喔喔喔喔发现了
12:08 buhei: 01:59:731 (4) - 这个改成 note,然后
12:08 buhei: 01:59:909 - 这个位置放一个1/2滑条
12:08 buhei: 可能会好点
12:10 buhei: 02:40:088 (1,2,3,4,5) -
12:10 Imouto koko: 唔
12:10 Imouto koko: 我按照原来的排列修了一下节奏
12:10 buhei: 嗯
12:10 Imouto koko: 先这样试试)
12:10 buhei: 可以
12:10 buhei: 02:41:516 (1,2,3,4,5) -
12:11 buhei: 02:42:945 (1,2,3,4,5) -
12:11 buhei: 这三个地方
12:11 buhei: 建议间距递减
12:11 buhei: 主要是最后一个
12:13 Imouto koko: 喔喔
12:13 Imouto koko: 好的
12:14 Imouto koko: 改了
12:15 buhei: 这
12:15 buhei: break
12:15 buhei: 好长
12:15 buhei: 你要不在这02:55:802 - 加个note吧
12:16 buhei: 你人呢
12:16 Imouto koko: 在啊
12:16 Imouto koko: O.O
12:16 Imouto koko: 正中间加个note?
12:17 buhei: 也行
12:17 buhei: 03:20:088 (1,1) -
12:17 buhei: 这个处理的不好
12:18 Imouto koko: 唔
12:18 Imouto koko: 不太会弄这里
12:19 buhei: 03:20:088 (1) -
12:19 buhei: 去掉折返
12:19 buhei: 03:20:802 (1) - 前移1/4拍
12:20 Imouto koko: 要不要把03:20:088 (1) - 加长
12:20 buhei: 03:20:624 -
12:20 buhei: 到这也行
12:21 buhei: 03:20:713 - 到这的话,尾部要消音
12:21 Imouto koko: 好,改了
12:22 Imouto koko: 03:21:516 - 那第二个滑条要延长到这里吗
12:22 Imouto koko: 还是加个note
12:23 buhei: 我觉得不延长也行
12:23 buhei: 延长也行
12:23 buhei: 这就随意你了
12:23 buhei: 我可能倾向于不延长
12:23 Imouto koko: 好pwp
12:23 buhei: 03:44:374 (1) -
12:23 buhei: 你这个往后面
12:23 buhei: 全是这样的就有点过分了吧233
12:25 Imouto koko: 唔 不延长听起来也挺有意思的
12:25 Imouto koko: 唔
12:25 Imouto koko: 是吗……其实也就8个哇
12:25 buhei: 03:46:516 -
12:25 buhei: 这里开始有五连音
12:25 buhei: 你就直接忽略了
12:26 buhei: 看这个kiai我感觉你好像不是很能驾驭快滑条
12:26 Imouto koko: 是的是的
12:26 buhei: 其实没必要强迫自己到最后一段把滑条弄快的
12:26 Imouto koko: 主要是我还想做形状,就很尴尬
12:26 Imouto koko: 唔
12:26 Imouto koko: 不是强迫吧,我觉得这里就该快)
12:27 buhei: 觉得该弄快 又有点弄不好
12:27 Imouto koko: 这个副歌给我这种感觉
12:27 buhei: 这不就是强迫自己弄嘛
12:27 Imouto koko: 唔
12:27 buhei: 我以前作图也是的
12:27 buhei: 到kiai非要弄快滑条
12:27 buhei: 三个kiai的话,最后一个kiai还要比前两个快
12:27 buhei: 结果控制不了变得很丑233
12:27 buhei: 其实加大间距就好
12:27 Imouto koko: 我第一个kiai是没有变快的
12:27 buhei: 我知道
12:28 buhei: 我看你这是1.8x
12:28 Imouto koko: 加大间距我个人不太喜欢……
12:28 buhei: 弄个1.5x其实差不多了。。
12:28 Imouto koko: 好,我改个1.5吧
12:28 buhei: 不是不是
12:28 buhei: 这次就不用了
12:28 buhei: 我就说下
12:28 buhei: 不用太刻意
12:28 Imouto koko: O.O
12:28 Imouto koko: 那我这个kiai要re吗
12:28 buhei: 主要还是这里的五连音漏掉了03:46:516 -
12:28 Imouto koko: 就是第二段的
12:29 buhei: 不用啊
12:29 Imouto koko: 五连这里我改下
12:29 buhei: 其实我是建议
12:29 buhei: 从这里03:45:802 - 开始
12:29 buhei: 改成单点
12:29 Imouto koko: 昨晚做到这里的时候有点没心思听节奏了所以就
12:29 buhei: z x z x zxzxz x
12:29 buhei: 这样
12:29 Imouto koko: 唔
12:29 Imouto koko: 那也行
12:29 Imouto koko: 就是间距稍微大了点?
12:29 buhei: 你这里配合音乐加强用的是间距增加的方法
12:30 Imouto koko: 喔,贪吃蛇就行了
12:30 Imouto koko: )
12:30 buhei: 其实可以弄个五角星小跳
12:30 buhei: 这里毕竟音乐加强了
12:30 Imouto koko: 好
12:31 buhei: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9206135
12:32 buhei: 就放在你之前的滑条头部
12:32 buhei: 就是nice flow
12:33 Imouto koko: 嗯嗯好
12:33 Imouto koko: 改了
12:33 buhei: 最后一个问题
12:33 buhei: 03:50:802 (2) -
12:33 buhei: 节奏抓错了
12:33 buhei: 改成1/3滑条吧
12:34 Imouto koko: 好
12:34 Imouto koko: 最后一个跳涨了0.04星)
12:34 buhei: 我看yf也放的1/2
12:34 buhei: 不是很懂
12:34 Imouto koko: 噗
12:34 Imouto koko: 可能没仔细听吧
12:35 buhei: 不太可能
12:35 buhei: 难道我听错了?
12:35 buhei: 你听着感觉是1/2还是1/3
12:35 Imouto koko: 1/3
12:35 buhei: 那就1/3吧
12:35 Imouto koko: 很明显1/3吧 昨晚我的确是没听……
12:35 buhei: 跳你嫌大了
12:35 Imouto koko: 直接放上去了
12:35 buhei: 可以放到旁边改成小跳
12:35 buhei: 随意
12:36 Imouto koko: 其实还好啦
12:36 buhei: 重点是左手要爽
12:36 Imouto koko: 就这样吧
12:36 buhei: z x z x zxzxz x
12:36 Imouto koko: 233333 有道理
12:36 buhei: 没了
12:36 buhei: 挺好的
pw384
irc mod
20:43 papapa213: 艾特教授
20:43 pw384: hao
20:45 pw384: 那irc modding了
20:45 papapa213: hao
20:45 *pw384 is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1272051 loos - koi yomi zakura [Insane]]
20:45 pw384: 先设个combo color
20:45 papapa213: 昂 这个之后
20:45 papapa213: 还有meta和黄线什么的我都还没弄
20:46 pw384: 那我跳过这些了
20:46 papapa213: 嗯
20:46 pw384: 00:02:231 (4) - 这里NC一下,因为00:01:517 (1,2,3) - 和00:02:231 (4,5,6) - 是两个互相独立的结构块
20:47 papapa213: 00:03:659 (5) - 这里呢?
20:47 papapa213: 前面nc这里是不是也得nc
20:47 pw384: 00:02:945 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 然后这里不加NC的话胡i很难看,所以建议加个nc,起码要在5上加
20:47 papapa213: 嗯
20:47 pw384: 加nc不一定要按照节奏加,还要看看排列
20:47 papapa213: 好
20:47 pw384: nc主要还是要方便读图,一眼看出这里的结构怎么分组的
20:48 papapa213: 嗯
20:48 pw384: 后面nc问题也不多说了
20:49 papapa213: 好 我自己研究一下
20:49 pw384: 00:10:624 (4,5) - 这里,建议把间距搞大一点
20:50 papapa213: 嗯
20:50 papapa213: 好
20:50 pw384: 因为00:10:088 (1,2,3,4) - 和00:10:802 (5,6,7,8) - 在旋律上不一样,显然是两个不同的结构,所以加个跳强调一下后面四个note,不然就没感觉了
20:51 papapa213: 意思就是按节奏分块 然后块和块间距加大吗
20:51 pw384: 也不是这个意思吧,主要原因还是要强调后面四个note带来的些许变化
20:52 papapa213: 嗯 那我想一想
20:52 pw384: 加大间距把前后区分开是一个比较常见的方法
20:53 pw384: 另外感觉00:18:659 - 之前三连的间距怎么都是一样的...最好能有点变化
20:54 papapa213: 好,我想一下
20:54 pw384: (这个问题以后再说吧,有些地方可能要重新搞一下
20:54 pw384: 然后00:16:516 (5,6) - ,两个直滑条有点生硬
20:58 pw384: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9217894
20:58 pw384: 这可能是我能想到最好的解决方法了,如果考虑到之后的pattern的话
20:58 papapa213: 哦哦
20:58 papapa213: 好
20:59 pw384: 00:22:945 (1,2,3,1,2,3) -
20:59 pw384: 这个地方,滑条速度、间距不宜大,更不宜和前面的一样大,这样很缺乏表现力
21:00 pw384: (也是个比较难改、可能需要大工程的问题
21:01 papapa213: em
21:02 pw384: 00:32:409 (1,2,3) - 这里,三连stack比移动要好
21:02 papapa213: 好
21:04 pw384: 00:37:945 (5,6) - 然后略丑...
21:05 papapa213: 好
21:07 pw384: 00:40:088 (1,2) -
21:08 pw384: 这里也略丑,大弧度滑条在这里很难看
21:08 papapa213: 喔 这里是没太注意……之前拉的忘了改
21:09 pw384: 00:40:445 (2,3,4) - 这里间距比较大还是直线flow,很难打,不适合放在这个相对平和的段落
21:09 papapa213: 那我这段重新想一想
21:09 pw384: 然后这里,00:57:409 (1,2,3,4) - 巨坑...
21:10 pw384: 最好把1/2分开来,不然很容易美丽
21:10 papapa213: 这里好几个人说了0.0 这么不好吗
21:11 pw384: 是的呀
21:11 pw384: (这种梗放出来一般是坑人的
21:11 pw384: insane这么玩感觉不太好
21:11 papapa213: 思考 我觉得不坑啊...
21:11 papapa213: 这么多人说那我改了好了
21:12 pw384: 初见杀
21:12 papapa213: 那就打2pc嘛(
21:12 pw384: 01:01:516 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 然后这个地方,转圈圈的flow很糟糕(
21:13 papapa213: 这里后面都是转圈圈..
21:14 papapa213: 后面还有三个这样转的..这种不行吗 有点想留着
21:14 pw384: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9218041
21:14 pw384: 试试这样?
21:14 pw384: 首先这里可以摆得整齐一点,其次我觉得中间两个note换个位置会很带感
21:14 papapa213: 哦 是说角度
21:14 papapa213: 我以为是说转圈不好
21:15 papapa213: 嗯 我明白好
21:15 papapa213: 那我换换位置
21:16 pw384: (别忘了摆整齐一点
21:16 papapa213: 嗯
21:16 pw384: 01:11:159 (1,3,5) - 然后这里
21:17 pw384: 一般认为刚好擦到边是最难看的摆放(
21:17 papapa213: 本来5是在3下面的
21:17 pw384: 尤其是在这种135还不对称的情况(
21:17 papapa213: 但是音效下的感觉适合直着下来 我修一修这里吧
21:18 pw384: 01:12:945 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 这个地方的转圈圈就比刚才好多了
21:19 papapa213: 这里节奏和刚才下的不太一样(
21:19 papapa213: 所以大概没办法换位置了 只能转
21:20 pw384: 01:22:231 (4,6) - 这个也不是很好看
21:20 papapa213: 好
21:20 pw384: 01:23:838 (6,7,1) - 这里钝角flow有点糟糕..比较难打
21:21 papapa213: 那我再修修这一段
21:23 pw384: 01:55:088 - 这里漏了音吧,还是很重的
21:25 papapa213: 这里想漏..我觉得节奏是这样
21:26 pw384: 我感觉你前后跟的轨都经过了这个音 所以感觉到漏了
21:26 pw384: 02:21:516 (5) - 然后这个显然要加nc的地方(
21:27 papapa213: 嗯
21:28 pw384: 02:34:195 (2,1) - 这里比较违和,而且之后6到1的衔接也不好
21:28 pw384: 我的方案差不多是这样:
21:30 pw384: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9218183(图一)
21:30 pw384: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9218195(图二)
21:30 pw384: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9218201(图三)
21:31 papapa213: 好
21:33 pw384: 然后最后的kiai的问题也差不多和前面类似,03:35:802 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6) - 尤其是这里,排得比较丑...
21:33 papapa213: 好...
21:34 papapa213: 摸的好细啊
21:34 papapa213: ;w;
21:37 pw384: 最后总结一下,一是NC的问题,二是美观的问题(局部看来,直滑条附近都是圆滑的滑条会造成一种样式上的不一致,比较难排得好看;整体看来,排列还是缺乏一些整体的结构,虽然考虑了物件的相对位置,但没考虑对整个作图区域的绝对位置,从而丧失了一些平衡性)
21:38 pw384: 三是间距的问题,全篇三连间距几乎一样,缺乏一些变化;有的地方完全可以通过stack解决问题而没有必要按照DS分开来
21:39 pw384: 差不多就这样了吧,感觉还有很大提升空间
21:39 papapa213: 好...我思考一下
21:40 pw384: (另外我感觉slider太快了...
21:40 papapa213: silider太快了
21:41 pw384: 很多部分集中在1.4x1.6=2.24速度周围,这样摆比较多1/2的图的话比较难摆得好看又好玩
21:42 pw384: 对于这种曲子我觉得1.4~1.8之间是一个比较理想的区段
21:42 pw384: (以后开新坑要注意
21:42 papapa213: 1.4*1.6是指什么
21:43 pw384: 1.4 基准速度 1.6x 绿线加倍
21:44 papapa213: 1.6
21:44 papapa213: 好像只有最后一段kiai是16
21:44 papapa213: 那我把最后一段kiai弄小点?
21:44 pw384: 之前有一段1.7x的(
21:44 papapa213: 好
21:44 pw384: 最后一段现在这样也没事(反正迟早要开刀)
21:44 pw384: 那段1.7的有点过头了
21:45 papapa213: (迟早要开刀是什么 听起来好可怕
21:45 papapa213: 嗯
21:45 pw384: (做好大改的心理准备
21:45 papapa213: 好
21:45 papapa213: 等死
21:45 pw384: 不过1st map的话感觉还是能放过的(
21:46 pw384: 看了看那段1.7x的确有点过分(
21:46 papapa213: 嗯 我改
21:46 papapa213: 我自己也觉得有点
21:46 pw384: 差不多就这样吧,我savelog去骗kds了(

good luck!
Ametrin
rank when
Topic Starter
papapa213

Ametrin wrote:

rank when
山无陵,江水为竭,冬雷震震,夏雨雪,天地合,乃敢rank之
Topic Starter
papapa213
UPDATE!

hardremap了,感谢@Yugu @sodarose @a_point

meta:

http://loos.jp/yoshino/contents.html → 恋詠桜(Full size) オモイヨシノ

http://loos.jp/yoshino/staff.html → 柊莉杏 spice+rock
gary00737
Normal
00:08:659 (1,2) - 包好

00:34:195 (4) - 我會選擇不會OVERLAP到尾巴

Hard
00:12:231 (4) -變速 nc



摸不動挨....
Insane
01:52:766 (4,2) - 如果可以的話試試修一下OVERLAP問題

我覺得把 03:20:802 (2) - 移在 03:22:766 () - 會比較有趣 :roll:


Gust's Koi suru Sakura Insane
02:24:374 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4) - 我覺得都加NC會比較有趣 ! ((因為好像變速 所以我覺得可以
03:27:945 (3,4) - ctrl + g 你覺得海星嗎 @@?




我好菜喔.jpg

我凡人摸不動神仙圖 :(
Misure
好久没摸图了 如有不妥仍望见谅orz
主页上的yf_bpm是什么鬼啦

[yf's Expert]
  1. 想食yf
[Lyric's Insane]
  1. 00:34:195 (1,2) - 前面几组收的有点紧了 这里分开感觉比较带感
  2. 02:22:945 (1,2,3,4,5) - 这里摆的有点高了吧 另外几何形状感觉有点崩..
  3. 02:29:731 (5) - 叠在3下面会不会好一点 主要感觉和后面会有一点跳跃感
  4. 03:13:838 (4,3) - 这个遮挡个人感觉体验较差 有点和整体画风不符orz
[Gust's Koi suru Sakura Insane]
  1. 01:11:159 - 这里对比前面突然combo这么长有点奇怪
  2. 02:07:231 - 后面耳朵瘸了orz
  3. 02:20:445 (5,6) - 可能有点迷惑 要不试试叠一半
  4. 02:53:972 - 这里break没有拉到底感觉也不是很有必要
  5. 03:30:088 (1,2,3,4,5) - 这里如果不用逐渐增大距离的话感觉前面减小的效果就不明显了 后面那组感觉就超棒
  6. 好强啊 膜拜orz 唯一一点如果可能的话所有物件整体下移一下 感觉现在整体位置偏高orz 还有就是diff名emmmmm

[Insane]
  1. 00:05:445 (4,1) - 这两个不考虑换个位置么 前面一直拐这里234一条直线有点奇怪
  2. 00:31:695 (3,4) - 这个不如叠尾巴 虽然能避免遮挡我觉得更合适..
  3. 00:35:445 (5,6,1,2) - 这条flow角度有点大 后面节奏转换感觉没有体现出来 可以试试类似这样
  4. 00:38:838 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2) - 这里对比前后好像间距突然变小了
  5. 00:46:516 - 这里不跟感觉有点可惜 和前面两组三单点应该是契合的
  6. 00:52:945 (1) - 356|352 之类的?这个直线flow的遮挡莫名感觉画风违和
  7. 01:20:802 (1,2,3,4,5) - 嘛 逐渐增加间距的话这里突出一下大间距效果可能比较明显 顺便这个连打摆歪了吧orz
  8. 02:21:695 (2) - 蜜汁finish
  9. 03:24:284 - 结尾换默认soft?
  10. 03:37:766 (6,7,1) - 好好叠起来我觉得比较妥当..
  11. 03:44:374 - 后面这组三连也逐渐加距离吧 向前面那样的 顺便03:45:534 (2) - 这个是手摆的吧
[koko's Insane]
  1. 00:04:374 (1,2,3) - 这接下来不向左下拐个五边形么0.0
  2. 00:10:981 (2) - 遮挡差评 而且也不是很强的四分音
  3. 00:52:945 (1,2,3,4,5) - ???主要是有点突兀
  4. 03:09:552 (1) - 尾巴换音效吧有点响
  5. 最大感受是kiai比非kiai简单 以及我是不是不小心开了编辑器的stack
[Ametrin's Easy]
  1. yink姬!我就留个名
低难度没怎么看 好像挺好的orz
这个set让我想到了mons的那个黑篮 真是一个diff一个风格233

祝好运 :)
Topic Starter
papapa213
gary

gary00737 wrote:

normal

00:08:659 (1,2) - 包好 fixed

00:34:195 (4) - 我會選擇不會OVERLAP到尾巴 懒得改了qwq

hard

00:12:231 (4) -變速 nc fixed



摸不動挨....

insane

01:52:766 (4,2) - 如果可以的話試試修一下OVERLAP問題 fixed

我覺得把 03:20:802 (2) - 移在 03:22:766 () - 會比較有趣 :roll: 大概不会,这段大肠是跟鼓点的,放到别处没什么意义吧


我好菜喔.jpg

我凡人摸不動神仙圖 :(

谢摸啦 :)



misure

Misure wrote:

好久没摸图了 如有不妥仍望见谅orz
主页上的yf_bpm是什么鬼啦fixed

[Insane]
  1. 00:05:445 (4,1) - 这两个不考虑换个位置么 前面一直拐这里234一条直线有点奇怪 fixed
  2. 00:31:695 (3,4) - 这个不如叠尾巴 虽然能避免遮挡我觉得更合适.. 叠尾巴了,这里遮一下我觉得挺猴的
  3. 00:35:445 (5,6,1,2) - 这条flow角度有点大 后面节奏转换感觉没有体现出来 可以试试类似这样fixed
  4. 00:38:838 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2) - 这里对比前后好像间距突然变小了 调整了一下前面和这里的间距
  5. 00:46:516 - 这里不跟感觉有点可惜 和前面两组三单点应该是契合的 不跟了,我更喜欢现在的节奏
  6. 00:52:945 (1) - 356|352 之类的?这个直线flow的遮挡莫名感觉画风违和 改了这一段
  7. 01:20:802 (1,2,3,4,5) - 嘛 逐渐增加间距的话这里突出一下大间距效果可能比较明显 顺便这个连打摆歪了吧orz 我觉得这里应该作为和后面的过渡,音效也不一样
  8. 02:21:695 (2) - 蜜汁finish fixed
  9. 03:24:284 - 结尾换默认soft? 本来这里是消音的后来点错了发现现在这样挺带感的2333,如果还有人提就改
  10. 03:37:766 (6,7,1) - 好好叠起来我觉得比较妥当.. 这里不知道为什么内心里有一个强烈的声音驱使着我这样摆
  11. 03:44:374 - 后面这组三连也逐渐加距离吧 向前面那样的 顺便03:45:534 (2) - 这个是手摆的吧 最后这段重新修改了下

低难度没怎么看 好像挺好的orz
这个set让我想到了mons的那个黑篮 真是一个diff一个风格233

祝好运 :)
哇米苏儿还给射星了,非常感谢来摸lwl
kanor
[Genal]
Duplicated (unused) storyboard file(s):
Loos - Koi Yomi Zakura (papapa213).osb

Hitsound file is not 100 ms length:
drum-sliderslide10.wav 49.98ms
soft-sliderslide10.wav 49.98ms
soft-sliderslide11.wav 49.98ms

ENH和歌词爷爷的I都没有combo colore set

[Easy]
强烈建议DS改成1.1,因为00:12:945 (1,2) -这种ds.....我要叫锋哥了.jpg
00:41:516 (1,2) - 这个看起来有包的趋势,要不干脆blanket一下?
其他都ok

[Normal]
00:24:374 - 这一段跟hard比起来要快不少(Hard也只是1.5x0.5,Normal却是1.1),所以如果这里这么跟比较难做的话,最好能改改节奏,我觉得像koko's Insane那样的跟轨可能比较适合(不过还是要简化一下啦)
00:46:874 (2,1) - 没包好
01:38:659 (5) -01:41:516 (10) - NC,后面的NC可能也要稍微改一下,这里这么一大串不NC可能不太好
03:10:088 - 这一段的NC也有点频繁了,看起来没什么特别的规律,要不就简单点一小节一NC?
03:47:231 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - 这一段最好多换点滑条,N里面放那么多单点有点危险...

[Hard]
H的sv是1.5....N是1.1不知道会不会差的有点多,spread的话()

[koko's Insane]
00:15:445 (7,1) - blanket
00:55:981 (2,5,8) - NC would be better for reading imo...
01:07:231 (1,2) - blanket
MD原来是国人
[Gust]
02:07:231 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - 梗很好,但是感觉不太合曲呢...比如02:07:231 (1,2,3,4) - 我觉得反过来可能更合曲,而从02:09:374 (6,7,8) - 这里钢琴音变重了,但是ds拉开却慢了一拍,导致感觉整个边距的节奏不是很贴合曲子...02:11:516 (1) - 这里也是,02:12:231 (5,6,7,8) - 这里重音DS却开始往nerf...也是同样的感觉
cs5 ar8, 梦回
[Insane]
00:32:945 (4,1,2,1) - 这里我原以为会做成慢-快-慢-快这样的弹射梗,结果sv没想象的那么夸张...就感觉很平淡了
00:35:624 (6,1,2) - 这里的话,因为1是一个很明显的重音,所以6-1这么跳看起来没什么问题,但是1-2如果也这么跳就有点主次不分.....因为6-1和1-2的重音程度不是完全一样,建议把6-1的DS弄大点,这样区分度高点
01:08:838 (2,4) - 这里我推荐stack01:08:124 (5,6) -,现在那样的lap有点难看
01:22:499 (2,3) - 这里是不是没叠好啊
02:01:159 (6,2) - 没包好

其他的不太摸得动了,GL啦~ :)
DreaM117er
m4m request for now

[General]
  1. Don't you use custom colours?? but it's ok for now, up to you. (you can copy yf's)
[Easy]
  1. Suggest you can change to 3, it's fine for some time line point:
    Ex:
    00:12:945 (1,2) - 02:02:766 (2,3) - change to CS3 is a good way to fix distance between 1/1 notes, they don't touch each other:
  2. then you have to fix notes out of screen, that's very important:
    00:08:659 (3,6) - 01:04:374 (1) - 02:04:373 (1,2) - 03:12:945 (4) - 03:30:089 (1) -
  3. Rhythm and other things:
    00:04:016 - why don't you add a circle here?? like this place?? 01:35:802 (1,2,3,4) -
    00:15:445 - 02:26:874 - 02:44:016 - ^
    00:22:945 (2) - use this one better 2333 01:18:659 (3) -
    01:32:588 - strongly suggest add a circle here, this place have a clear sound you can follow. It's better to fix your rhythm.
    01:38:302 (3) - remove clap?? it's weird...
    02:44:374 (1) - this is unrankable slider in Easy diff. use higher difficulty is fine, don't fit on Easy and Normal diff. and no Easy diff can use slow down green line to fix slider. 2 points unrankable.
    03:18:659 (1) - give you my rhythm, you can use it if you like:
    SPOILER
    [img]03:18:659%20(1,2,3)%20-[/img]
[Normal]

  • 00:02:231 (1,1,1) - remove NC
    00:07:945 (2) - DS
    00:20:266 (2,1) - not stack well
    00:31:338 (2) - DS
    00:32:766 (4) - I think you can remove this circle, it feels me weird... :?
    01:05:088 (2,3) - DS
    01:31:516 (3) - 1/2 slider??
    01:34:374 (1,1) - 用英文用到煩了...這個不能這樣疊,尤其低難度,會搞死人的
    01:52:946 (6) - NC, then 01:53:659 (1,1) - remove NC
    02:24:374 (1) - I suggest you remove red point on slider tail
    02:28:659 (1,1,1) - remove NC
    02:43:659 (3) - same suggestion in Easy diff. and this isn't a good end point here.
    03:19:374 (1) - remove NC
    03:29:016 (4) - DS
    03:47:231 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - I suggest you use spinner like Easy diff, 7 circles feels very bad on playing to end.
[Hard]

  • 00:24:374 (1,2) - I don't know why to don't want to flow circle and circle??
    00:28:838 (4) - 00:31:695 (6) - can you use DS here??
    00:31:695 (6) - same reason like 00:24:374 (1,2) - , please blanket circle here??
    00:35:624 (3,1) - don't use jump here... then you don't want to fix, tell me why. same 01:44:195 (5,1) -
    01:32:588 (1) - use circle is fine, better than 3/4 slider.
    01:55:266 (1,1) - remove NC, add NC here 01:55:802 (2) -
    02:05:802 (5) - NC
    03:08:615 (1) - I think no need this rhythm...
    03:18:659 (1) - circle??
[koko's Insane]
  1. 不用英文了,快氣死...
  2. 老實說我超愛你這張Insane,可惜的就是spread的位置讓你GG...
    00:07:231 (2) - NC,不必讓別人知道你下一個打擊點在哪。00:05:802 (1) - 這裡去掉NC;02:05:802 (4,5) - 這裡一樣的做法
    01:32:588 - 還是建議把這個聲音做出來。02:44:374 - 這裡也是
    02:25:802 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - 我在群裡也說了,這裡因為spread的關係,不能放16連。除非圖主願意在你之前加難度,要不然你非改不可
    03:07:231 (1) - 轉盤建議刪掉,尾巴的地方我怎麼樣調整都對不上聲音。
    03:09:909 - 有一個結束的聲音在這裡,看你要不要調整下slider的長度
    03:23:659 (3) - NC
    03:48:302 - 加個circle在這??
    03:48:659 (2) - 我可以建議你複製前面那個slider然後轉180度,03:50:802 (3) - 這裡換成2個circle,就看你要放哪這樣
[Collab Insane]

  • 01:30:803 (3,4,5) - 我不是很懂Insane的話這個要怎麼玩,建議改掉
    02:25:802 (2,3,2,3) - NC,長短有變化就要NC
    03:08:615 (1,2) - 一樣建議刪掉,聲音還是對不上...
    03:38:659 (4,5) - 這個太過頭了
[Insane]

  • 03:08:615 (1) - 一樣,不提了
  1. 厲害,第一個讓我找不太到什麼問題的難度 :)
[Lyric's Insane]

  • 01:32:588 - 聲音做出來啊rrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[Extra]
  1. 不想摸愛撫的...之前也看過了,太神...
Gust
牛逼papapa
Topic Starter
papapa213

Gust wrote:

牛逼papapa
Gust 被你禁言1天
Lily Bread
这个set的OD怎么这么诡异..

[Lyric's Insane]
最后一个kiai比前面两个难太多了..

[Insane]
打了一遍..
02:22:231 - 就觉得这附近不太对劲,四方跳不应该用在这种地方..可以做简单一些

[Gust's Koi suru Sakura Insane]
02:07:231 - 这里的一长串单点有点诡异呐..AR8的话,这种单点算很难的..然后又不是等间距,太难读了
这种梗放到kiai可能还不错

02:30:981 - 02:36:695 - 感觉少了个三连

老了..摸不动了
Imouto koko

Misure wrote:

[koko's Insane]
  1. 00:04:374 (1,2,3) - 这接下来不向左下拐个五边形么0.0 二分拍到一分拍的转变想通过钝角转锐角体现。
  2. 00:10:981 (2) - 遮挡差评 而且也不是很强的四分音 改了一下,叠滑条尾,把滑条头露出来了。
  3. 00:52:945 (1,2,3,4,5) - ???主要是有点突兀 感觉这里叠得仔细的话是可以读清楚的……
  4. 03:09:552 (1) - 尾巴换音效吧有点响 改了一下音量。
  5. 最大感受是kiai比非kiai简单 以及我是不是不小心开了编辑器的stack :) 自动堆叠有点控制不好,就自己排了个符合自己读图逻辑的stack.

kanor wrote:

[koko's Insane]
00:15:445 (7,1) - blanket fixed.
00:55:981 (2,5,8) - NC would be better for reading imo... hmm.. maybe i do not understand..
01:07:231 (1,2) - blanket i think there are 2 straight slider..
MD原来是国人 OAO

DreaM117er wrote:

[koko's Insane]
  1. 不用英文了,快氣死... 摸摸。
  2. 老實說我超愛你這張Insane,可惜的就是spread的位置讓你GG... 蟹蟹。spread我会调整的。
    00:07:231 (2) - NC,不必讓別人知道你下一個打擊點在哪。00:05:802 (1) - 這裡去掉NC;02:05:802 (4,5) - 這裡一樣的做法 这算是个人很喜爱的一种nc,先保留一下吧。
    01:32:588 - 還是建議把這個聲音做出來。02:44:374 - 這裡也是 都补上去了。
    02:25:802 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - 我在群裡也說了,這裡因為spread的關係,不能放16連。除非圖主願意在你之前加難度,要不然你非改不可 改了,换成和ppp一样的折返了。
    03:07:231 (1) - 轉盤建議刪掉,尾巴的地方我怎麼樣調整都對不上聲音。调整了一下也换了个音效,现在应该是对上了。
    03:09:909 - 有一個結束的聲音在這裡,看你要不要調整下slider的長度 不改了吧,有点影响流畅度。
    03:23:659 (3) - NC 同上。
    03:48:302 - 加個circle在這?? 加啦。
    03:48:659 (2) - 我可以建議你複製前面那個slider然後轉180度,03:50:802 (3) - 這裡換成2個circle,就看你要放哪這樣 感觉有点控制不好,还是不改了pwp
thx for mod!
Otosaka-Yu
我坑了你这摸貌似两个月了,要来填了
送个水摸,老年人摸不动论文了

General

  1. 有些难度没有combo color,最好都设置一下
  2. 02:55:802 (1) - 说实话,两段break中间插了一个note 我个人是非常不建议这么做的 玩家以为前面打完了一堆东西break一下稍作休息 结果你break 完了非常高兴地看到了一个note 才按一下BG又亮了起来。。至少02:55:802 - 03:07:231 - 已经可以开始做了啊 要是真的不想做那就全都空着 不要只放一个note 这样反而显得那个note除了表现风铃的声音以外就没啥意义了

Hard

  1. 00:09:016 (2,3) - 这个移动对flow来说可能有些困难
  2. 00:27:231 (3) - nc一下吧
  3. 00:30:088 (5) - ^
  4. 00:43:124 (4,1,2) - 这三个看上去有点挤啊。。
  5. 00:44:374 (1,2,3) - 感觉距离有点大了,起码跟这个距离差不多吧01:52:588 (6,1) - 而且也因为note与note之间的距离变得很近,在hard里可能比较难读,不是说不能这样做,只是提出来一下以后尽可能避免就好了
  6. 01:02:231 (3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - 因为overlap的关系变得太乱了。好像挤成一块的样子
  7. 01:13:659 (3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - same
  8. 01:24:374 (1,1) - stack 一下
  9. 03:08:615 (1) - 这个吐槽一下,hard里面尽量不要放不是snap在1/4上的物件
  10. 03:27:945 (3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - 上面说的overlap
  11. 03:39:373 (3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - same
说实话你这个hard我是挺喜欢的,有点创意,不过有时候对于间距的问题太过注重了。注重并不是不好,而是在做hard的时候并不用注重太多什么位置要强烈就要放大间距。hard好歹算个低难度,只是算节奏丰富了点,对于新人玩家想进一步挑战困难的难度来说最好还是开着ds开火车,虽然ds并不是必要的,但是开了ds起码能保证哪个位置的统一性。有几个位置我是比较喜欢的像00:44:374 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2) - 01:52:945 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - 创意很好,但是在hard里尽量避免用这些梗,我觉得hard还是平淡一些好,这些梗留到做insane还是能比较大幅度的体现出来的。

一米四

  1. 两段break中间插了一个note跟上面的一样
  2. 倒是没啥好挑剔,我挺喜欢的。不过nc的时候尽可能多一些就好了
倒是没啥了,摸不动orz
gl!
Lyric

Misure wrote:

[Lyric's Insane]
  1. 00:34:195 (1,2) - 前面几组收的有点紧了 这里分开感觉比较带感 // fixed
  2. 02:22:945 (1,2,3,4,5) - 这里摆的有点高了吧 另外几何形状感觉有点崩.. // fixed
  3. 02:29:731 (5) - 叠在3下面会不会好一点 主要感觉和后面会有一点跳跃感 // fixed
  4. 03:13:838 (4,3) - 这个遮挡个人感觉体验较差 有点和整体画风不符orz // fixed

DreaM117er wrote:

[Lyric's Insane]

  • 01:32:588 - 聲音做出來啊rrrrrrrrrrrrrr // fixed

Lily Bread wrote:

[Lyric's Insane]
最后一个kiai比前面两个难太多了.. // 我可能会继续改简单些
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352,160,222588,2,0,P|391:196|442:212,1,107.999996704102,8|2,3:2|0:3,0:0:0:0:
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Gust
gary00737
02:24:374 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4) - 我覺得都加NC會比較有趣 ! ((因為好像變速 所以我覺得可以 我也想改但不知道可以不可以,先放一下改tm的
03:27:945 (3,4) - ctrl + g 你覺得海星嗎 @@? 我觉得不星 ;)

Misure
01:11:159 - 这里对比前面突然combo这么长有点奇怪
02:07:231 - 后面耳朵瘸了orz 没有找到好的音效就只能用默认的了(
02:20:445 (5,6) - 可能有点迷惑 要不试试叠一半 就是要迷惑
02:53:972 - 这里break没有拉到底感觉也不是很有必要
03:30:088 (1,2,3,4,5) - 这里如果不用逐渐增大距离的话感觉前面减小的效果就不明显了 后面那组感觉就超棒 为了连贯性还是算了吧,这样子其实也可以
好强啊 膜拜orz 唯一一点如果可能的话所有物件整体下移一下 感觉现在整体位置偏高orz 还有就是diff名emmmmm 我感觉还好啊,diff名是不是很有意思

kanor
02:07:231 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - 梗很好,但是感觉不太合曲呢...比如02:07:231 (1,2,3,4) - 我觉得反过来可能更合曲,而从02:09:374 (6,7,8) - 这里钢琴音变重了,但是ds拉开却慢了一拍,导致感觉整个边距的节奏不是很贴合曲子...02:11:516 (1) - 这里也是,02:12:231 (5,6,7,8) - 这里重音DS却开始往nerf...也是同样的感觉
cs5 ar8, 梦回
仔细听了一下,02:12:231 (5,6,7,8) 这里的确比其他地方要重一些,然后前面的也改了一下

117
不是collab啊!
01:30:803 (3,4,5) - 我不是很懂Insane的話這個要怎麼玩,建議改掉 还好吧
02:25:802 (2,3,2,3) - NC,長短有變化就要NC
03:08:615 (1,2) - 一樣建議刪掉,聲音還是對不上...
03:38:659 (4,5) - 這個太過頭了

莉莉
02:07:231 - 这里的一长串单点有点诡异呐..AR8的话,这种单点算很难的..然后又不是等间距,太难读了
这种梗放到kiai可能还不错
我觉得不算难打吧
no reply are fixed
blue colour are fixed
Topic Starter
papapa213
kanor

kanor wrote:

[Genal]
Duplicated (unused) storyboard file(s):
Loos - Koi Yomi Zakura (papapa213).osb 删了

Hitsound file is not 100 ms length:
drum-sliderslide10.wav 49.98ms
soft-sliderslide10.wav 49.98ms
soft-sliderslide11.wav 49.98ms 问了下好像是没啥必要,如果再有人说我再弄吧


ENH和歌词爷爷的I都没有combo colore set

[Easy]
强烈建议DS改成1.1,因为00:12:945 (1,2) -这种ds.....我要叫锋哥了.jpg 替他改了下cs
其他都ok

[Normal]
00:24:374 - 这一段跟hard比起来要快不少(Hard也只是1.5x0.5,Normal却是1.1),所以如果这里这么跟比较难做的话,最好能改改节奏,我觉得像koko's Insane那样的跟轨可能比较适合(不过还是要简化一下啦) 改了节奏
00:46:874 (2,1) - 没包好 fixed
01:38:659 (5) -01:41:516 (10) - NC,后面的NC可能也要稍微改一下,这里这么一大串不NC可能不太好 fixed
03:10:088 - 这一段的NC也有点频繁了,看起来没什么特别的规律,要不就简单点一小节一NC? fixed
03:47:231 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - 这一段最好多换点滑条,N里面放那么多单点有点危险... 改了个转盘

[Hard]
H的sv是1.5....N是1.1不知道会不会差的有点多,spread的话()先这样

[Insane]
00:32:945 (4,1,2,1) - 这里我原以为会做成慢-快-慢-快这样的弹射梗,结果sv没想象的那么夸张...就感觉很平淡了 非常nice的建议
00:35:624 (6,1,2) - 这里的话,因为1是一个很明显的重音,所以6-1这么跳看起来没什么问题,但是1-2如果也这么跳就有点主次不分.....因为6-1和1-2的重音程度不是完全一样,建议把6-1的DS弄大点,这样区分度高点fixed
01:08:838 (2,4) - 这里我推荐stack01:08:124 (5,6) -,现在那样的lap有点难看 想保留现在的梗,还是叠在一起了
01:22:499 (2,3) - 这里是不是没叠好啊 不是,故意这样放
02:01:159 (6,2) - 没包好 挪了挪

其他的不太摸得动了,GL啦~ :)
非常感谢,帮助很大
117

DreaM117er wrote:

m4m request for now

[General]
  1. Don't you use custom colours?? but it's ok for now, up to you. (you can copy yf's)
加了

[Normal]

  • 00:02:231 (1,1,1) - remove NC
    00:07:945 (2) - DS
    00:20:266 (2,1) - not stack well fixed
    00:31:338 (2) - DS
    00:32:766 (4) - I think you can remove this circle, it feels me weird... :? 我觉得去掉不太自然
    01:05:088 (2,3) - DS
    01:31:516 (3) - 1/2 slider?? 喜欢现在的节奏,觉得这个地方塞上不太自然
    01:34:374 (1,1) - 用英文用到煩了...這個不能這樣疊,尤其低難度,會搞死人的 fixed
    01:52:946 (6) - NC, then 01:53:659 (1,1) - remove NC
    02:24:374 (1) - I suggest you remove red point on slider tail fixed
    02:28:659 (1,1,1) - remove NC
    02:43:659 (3) - same suggestion in Easy diff. and this isn't a good end point here.
    03:19:374 (1) - remove NC
    03:29:016 (4) - DS
    03:47:231 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - I suggest you use spinner like Easy diff, 7 circles feels very bad on playing to end.fixed
NC重新检查了一遍,DS都修了
[Hard]

  • 00:24:374 (1,2) - I don't know why to don't want to flow circle and circle??fixed
    00:28:838 (4) - 00:31:695 (6) - can you use DS here?? fixed
    00:31:695 (6) - same reason like 00:24:374 (1,2) - , please blanket circle here?? fixed
    00:35:624 (3,1) - don't use jump here... then you don't want to fix, tell me why. same 01:44:195 (5,1) - 就算这么问...这里的音很重,也是下一段节奏变密集的分界点,我觉得这地方很有必要跳啊..
    01:32:588 (1) - use circle is fine, better than 3/4 slider. 我还是挺喜欢现在这样的……如果还有人说我就改
    01:55:266 (1,1) - remove NC, add NC here 01:55:802 (2) - fixed
    02:05:802 (5) - NC fixed
    03:08:615 (1) - I think no need this rhythm... 先保留
    03:18:659 (1) - circle?? 这地方滑条尾本来是三连,我觉得3/4滑条很好
[Insane]

  • 03:08:615 (1) - 一樣,不提了 ^
  1. 厲害,第一個讓我找不太到什麼問題的難度 :) 谢谢 :)
感谢117爷爷 :)

Lily

Lily Bread wrote:

这个set的OD怎么这么诡异.. 回头我找人来看一下spread

[Insane]
打了一遍..
02:22:231 - 就觉得这附近不太对劲,四方跳不应该用在这种地方..可以做简单一些 这段稍微修改了一下


老了..摸不动了
感谢百忙之中来摸

1112

Suzuki_1112 wrote:

我坑了你这摸貌似两个月了,要来填了 坑的其实是另一个
送个水摸,老年人摸不动论文了 请务必不要这么容易就老掉

General

  1. 有些难度没有combo color,最好都设置一下 加了加了,怎么全都要我加color
  2. 02:55:802 (1) - 说实话,两段break中间插了一个note 我个人是非常不建议这么做的 玩家以为前面打完了一堆东西break一下稍作休息 结果你break 完了非常高兴地看到了一个note 才按一下BG又亮了起来。。至少02:55:802 - 03:07:231 - 已经可以开始做了啊 要是真的不想做那就全都空着 不要只放一个note 这样反而显得那个note除了表现风铃的声音以外就没啥意义了
那个note是鼓声,这一大段只有这一个鼓声,这个地方要放掉,前后都比较激烈,放很多note无法产生对比

Hard

  1. 00:09:016 (2,3) - 这个移动对flow来说可能有些困难 改了下间距
  2. 00:27:231 (3) - nc一下吧 fixed
  3. 00:30:088 (5) - ^ fixed
  4. 00:43:124 (4,1,2) - 这三个看上去有点挤啊。。 这个转圈的flow我还是挺想留着,先挤挤
  5. 00:44:374 (1,2,3) - 感觉距离有点大了 有点难搞,往上挪会overlap,现在这样也算能打,所以先不动了,起码跟这个距离差不多吧01:52:588 (6,1) - 而且也因为note与note之间的距离变得很近,在hard里可能比较难读,不是说不能这样做,只是提出来一下以后尽可能避免就好了
  6. 01:02:231 (3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - 因为overlap的关系变得太乱了。好像挤成一块的样子 好像也没有什么好的解决办法,五边形四边形转两圈我觉得这是我尝试过的最整齐的摆法了
  7. 01:13:659 (3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - same ^
  8. 01:24:374 (1,1) - stack 一下 这里都看不见那个滑条尾了,还是后面的2stack优先级更高一些
  9. 03:08:615 (1) - 这个吐槽一下,hard里面尽量不要放不是snap在1/4上的物件 先留着试试,不行再改
  10. 03:27:945 (3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - 上面说的overlap^
  11. 03:39:373 (3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - same^
说实话你这个hard我是挺喜欢的,有点创意,不过有时候对于间距的问题太过注重了。注重并不是不好,而是在做hard的时候并不用注重太多什么位置要强烈就要放大间距。hard好歹算个低难度,只是算节奏丰富了点,对于新人玩家想进一步挑战困难的难度来说最好还是开着ds开火车,虽然ds并不是必要的,但是开了ds起码能保证哪个位置的统一性。有几个位置我是比较喜欢的像00:44:374 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2) - 01:52:945 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - 创意很好好像全图就只有这一个创意了,但是在hard里尽量避免用这些梗这是我第一次尝试在hard里搞事能不能支持一下啊喂,我觉得hard还是平淡一些好,这些梗留到做insane还是能比较大幅度的体现出来的。
倒是没啥了,摸不动orz
gl!
谢摸了

UPDATE, add new hitsound at koko's insane
Ametrin

kanor wrote:

[Easy]
强烈建议DS改成1.1,因为00:12:945 (1,2) -这种ds.....我要叫锋哥了.jpg CS3
00:41:516 (1,2) - 这个看起来有包的趋势,要不干脆blanket一下? 主要是为了对称 就这样吧
其他都ok

其他的不太摸得动了,GL啦~ :)

DreaM117er wrote:

m4m request for now

[*]Suggest you can change to 3, it's fine for some time line point:
Ex:
00:12:945 (1,2) - 02:02:766 (2,3) - change to CS3 is a good way to fix distance between 1/1 notes, they don't touch each other:
[*]then you have to fix notes out of screen, that's very important:
00:08:659 (3,6) - 01:04:374 (1) - 02:04:373 (1,2) - 03:12:945 (4) - 03:30:089 (1) -
[*]Rhythm and other things:
00:04:016 - why don't you add a circle here?? like this place?? 01:35:802 (1,2,3,4) -
00:15:445 - 02:26:874 - 02:44:016 - ^ i dont think these circle are necessary...
00:22:945 (2) - use this one better 2333 01:18:659 (3) - sikao
01:32:588 - strongly suggest add a circle here, this place have a clear sound you can follow. It's better to fix your rhythm.
01:38:302 (3) - remove clap?? it's weird...
02:44:374 (1) - this is unrankable slider in Easy diff. use higher difficulty is fine, don't fit on Easy and Normal diff. and no Easy diff can use slow down green line to fix slider. 2 points unrankable. GG qwq
03:18:659 (1) - give you my rhythm, you can use it if you like: picture crushed([/color]
SPOILER
[img]03:18:659%20(1,2,3)%20-[/img]
[/list][/notice]

Misure wrote:

[Ametrin's Easy]
  1. yink姬!我就留个名(((o(*゚▽゚*)o)))
炼狱樱
osu file format v14

[General]
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Countdown: 0
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StackLeniency: 0.7
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LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
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254,350,41159,1,8,2:3:0:0:
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442,10,102945,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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Mykaterasu
Q
Normal
Looks like someone cleaned up the diff while I was gone.
  1. 00:08:659 (1,2) - I recommend you stay away from this arrangement because the slider's angle is too sharp to blanket, or change all of your sliders to fix the blanket. You can use a circle's approach circle to check if the blanket is correct like so
  2. 01:20:802 (1) - Newer players don't have a full understanding of slider mechanics when they play normals and serrated sliders can hide a lot of distance therefore it's generally seen as a lot better to stretch these out to be straighter, something like this.
  3. 02:19:374 (2,3) - These are so close to being in a straight line that it looks bad when they're off. You're better off making it very clear that they're not in a line, or actually put them in a proper line.

Hard
  1. 00:01:517 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,1) - This intro is way harder than anything in your kiai 00:58:659 - which doesn't make any structural sense.
  2. 00:11:516 (1,3) - 00:12:945 (1) - maps don't really include both slightly angled and perfectly vertical/horizontal straight sliders in the same map, mostly because they completely contradict each other in design.
  3. 00:14:374 (1,2) - Something's gone wrong in your copy+pasting, these aren't parallel. This suggests you might be hand-drawing your sliders. I implore you to copy and paste sliders as much as possible, and manipulate them with the edit commands.
  4. 00:24:374 (1) - Have the anchor 00:25:266 - here. 00:27:231 (1) - anchor 00:28:124 - here etc...
  5. 00:44:374 (1,2,3) - This spacing doesn't really make much sense, since all of your other movement for less intense sections have been 00:32:588 (1,2,3) - fully spaced. Why not just reuse what you already have?
  6. 00:54:909 (6,7,1) - These are so close to being in a line that you may aswell make these a line.
  7. 03:15:802 (3) - This should be an NC for consistency, but I don't really like the NC usage prior to this.
    Generally it's very odd to see a large proportion of straight 1/2 sliders with very few curved ones. It's odd when the curved ones come in, there doesn't seem to be any set reason as to what they represent. You might want to look at a more varied 1/2 slider structure.

Insane
  1. 00:17:766 (4,2) - The spacing here makes it seem like these objects have musical significance, of which they do not.
  2. 00:37:409 (2,3,4) - You seem to randomly stop using these in some places, and it doesn't make much sense, especially when they are structured as if they are meant to be there. 00:37:945 (5,6) - 00:40:088 (1,2) -
  3. 00:54:731 (2,3,4) - Shouldn't this be a straight line to stay with the theme of this section, and transfer into the next one?
  4. 01:02:589 (3,4,1) - I recommend you keep tight control on how straight you make these and where you use them, they're very uncomfortable and aren't a part of any consistent theme. They appear in very few, yet random spots throughout the map (03:19:909 (7,8,1) - e.g.)
  5. 01:21:516 (1,3,1,3) - It's quite odd to have these parallel sliders so close to each other for a section this active. Players understand that sliders can have a variable distance between each other but this kind of spacing doesn't really happen again in a section this important. It really stands out in a section which the music doesn't support. 01:37:231 (1,2) - This section can get away with it since it's a lower intensity verse as opposed to a bridge from the chorus.
  6. 01:27:231 (1) - For an insane this isn't entirely rhythmically appropriate. 01:27:231 - Circle, 01:27:588 - 1/1 Slider
  7. 01:44:374 - You should tighten up your rhythm structure for this section, the triples are pretty much random in appearance. A consistently structured rhythm is far better than a wildly varied one.
  8. 02:22:231 (1,2,3,4) - A solution in which this combo rotates clockwise would be far better so there is contrast for the next combo, which is counter-clockwise.
  9. 03:07:231 - :idea: end the break here?
  10. 03:37:766 (6,7,1) - You haven't done triples like this before, it's an appalling choice to change things up now.
  11. 03:44:374 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - Overdone

yf_bmp's Extra
Overall I think this map would be a lot cleaner if the AR was more appropriate for the reading patterns found in the map. Something like 9.4 makes a tangible difference to how the map is read, and it's a much more enjoyable experience.
  1. 00:10:981 (2) - if this object's head overlapped 00:11:516 (3) -'s slidertail, I feel like this whole phrase would be a lot easier to read without getting caught out by the 1/4 slidertails.
  2. 00:58:213 (2) - I feel like this object should be poking out a little bit. The ranking team is pretty shaky on sliderbodies directly overlapping other objects
  3. 01:38:213 (6) - This object screams that its position isn't intentional. If it is intended, it might be better to change things up so it doesn't seem that way at first glance.
  4. 01:38:927 (2,3) - I'm all for variable stack spacings, but the gradual change from imperfectly stacked to perfectly stacked is a bit crude, it could probably be cleaned up a little so it's a clear change from one to the other over a couple repetitions.
  5. 02:08:124 (1) - While a fine spacial motif, I don't think there is a sufficient musical justification for an NC in these positions.
  6. 03:46:516 (1,2,3,4,5) - Shouldn't these guys be NC'd?

This voice gives me migraine :(
Topic Starter
papapa213

Mykaterasu wrote:

Q
Normal
Looks like someone cleaned up the diff while I was gone.
  1. 00:08:659 (1,2) - I recommend you stay away from this arrangement because the slider's angle is too sharp to blanket, or change all of your sliders to fix the blanket. You can use a circle's approach circle to check if the blanket is correct like so im note quite understand your meaning, it blanket bad?
  2. 01:20:802 (1) - Newer players don't have a full understanding of slider mechanics when they play normals and serrated sliders can hide a lot of distance therefore it's generally seen as a lot better to stretch these out to be straighter, something like this. keep on till others point it
  3. 02:19:374 (2,3) - These are so close to being in a straight line that it looks bad when they're off. You're better off making it very clear that they're not in a line, or actually put them in a proper line. ok, now it become more straight

Hard
  1. 00:01:517 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,1) - This intro is way harder than anything in your kiai 00:58:659 - which doesn't make any structural sense. yes, just this patten should be hard I think
  2. 00:11:516 (1,3) - 00:12:945 (1) - maps don't really include both slightly angled and perfectly vertical/horizontal straight sliders in the same map, mostly because they completely contradict each other in design. keep on till I found way to change it
  3. 00:14:374 (1,2) - Something's gone wrong in your copy+pasting, these aren't parallel. This suggests you might be hand-drawing your sliders. I implore you to copy and paste sliders as much as possible, and manipulate them with the edit commands. ok
  4. 00:24:374 (1) - Have the anchor 00:25:266 - here. 00:27:231 (1) - anchor 00:28:124 - here etc... fixed
  5. 00:44:374 (1,2,3) - This spacing doesn't really make much sense, since all of your other movement for less intense sections have been 00:32:588 (1,2,3) - fully spaced. Why not just reuse what you already have? I think it is might appropriate now
  6. 00:54:909 (6,7,1) - These are so close to being in a line that you may aswell make these a line. ok
  7. 03:15:802 (3) - This should be an NC for consistency, but I don't really like the NC usage prior to this. added NC
    Generally it's very odd to see a large proportion of straight 1/2 sliders with very few curved ones. It's odd when the curved ones come in, there doesn't seem to be any set reason as to what they represent. You might want to look at a more varied 1/2 slider structure. I cant use other slider greatly ;w;

Insane
  1. 00:17:766 (4,2) - The spacing here makes it seem like these objects have musical significance, of which they do not. changed
  2. 00:37:409 (2,3,4) - You seem to randomly stop using these in some places, and it doesn't make much sense, especially when they are structured as if they are meant to be there. 00:37:945 (5,6) - 00:40:088 (1,2) - fixed
  3. 00:54:731 (2,3,4) - Shouldn't this be a straight line to stay with the theme of this section, and transfer into the next one? it is not straight
  4. 01:02:589 (3,4,1) - I recommend you keep tight control on how straight you make these and where you use them, they're very uncomfortable and aren't a part of any consistent theme. They appear in very few, yet random spots throughout the map (03:19:909 (7,8,1) - e.g.) the first doesnt have following line, so it is light influence, and the next fixed. You really like straight
  5. 01:21:516 (1,3,1,3) - It's quite odd to have these parallel sliders so close to each other for a section this active. Players understand that sliders can have a variable distance between each other but this kind of spacing doesn't really happen again in a section this important. It really stands out in a section which the music doesn't support. 01:37:231 (1,2) - This section can get away with it since it's a lower intensity verse as opposed to a bridge from the chorus. Increased distance
  6. 01:27:231 (1) - For an insane this isn't entirely rhythmically appropriate. 01:27:231 - Circle, 01:27:588 - 1/1 Slider I love current rhythm
  7. 01:44:374 - You should tighten up your rhythm structure for this section, the triples are pretty much random in appearance. A consistently structured rhythm is far better than a wildly varied one. have a change
  8. 02:22:231 (1,2,3,4) - A solution in which this combo rotates clockwise would be far better so there is contrast for the next combo, which is counter-clockwise. fixed
  9. 03:07:231 - :idea: end the break here? fixed
  10. 03:37:766 (6,7,1) - You haven't done triples like this before, it's an appalling choice to change things up now.
  11. 03:44:374 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - Overdone might not

thx a lot :)


This voice gives me migraine :(
yf_bmp

Mykaterasu wrote:

yf_bmp's Extra
Overall I think this map would be a lot cleaner if the AR was more appropriate for the reading patterns found in the map. Something like 9.4 makes a tangible difference to how the map is read, and it's a much more enjoyable experience.
  1. 00:10:981 (2) - if this object's head overlapped 00:11:516 (3) -'s slidertail, I feel like this whole phrase would be a lot easier to read without getting caught out by the 1/4 slidertails. i don't think so
  2. 00:58:213 (2) - I feel like this object should be poking out a little bit. The ranking team is pretty shaky on sliderbodies directly overlapping other objects redid this
  3. 01:38:213 (6) - This object screams that its position isn't intentional. If it is intended, it might be better to change things up so it doesn't seem that way at first glance. it's intentional though. i think it's ok in this part (something like 01:37:499 (2,3) - )
  4. 01:38:927 (2,3) - I'm all for variable stack spacings, but the gradual change from imperfectly stacked to perfectly stacked is a bit crude, it could probably be cleaned up a little so it's a clear change from one to the other over a couple repetitions. i did them intentionally but not crude imo
  5. 02:08:124 (1) - While a fine spacial motif, I don't think there is a sufficient musical justification for an NC in these positions. del those circles
  6. 03:46:516 (1,2,3,4,5) - Shouldn't these guys be NC'd? unnecessary tho, something like 01:20:802 (1,2,3,4,5) -

This voice gives me migraine :(
i like ar9 and play it well so won't change ar :P

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255,91,223302,2,0,P|301:65|332:21,1,107.999996704102,8|0,3:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
316,274,223659,2,0,P|294:323|294:377,1,107.999996704102,2|2,3:2|0:3,0:0:0:0:
159,162,224016,2,0,P|147:110|115:67,1,107.999996704102,8|8,3:2|0:3,0:0:0:0:
352,160,224374,22,0,B|390:130|399:158|425:170|425:170|406:189|406:223|356:200,1,170.999995433807,4|2,0:1|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,224641,1,2,0:0:0:0:
197,275,224731,2,0,B|184:321|160:304|132:310|132:310|136:283|116:256|170:245,1,170.999995433807,0|2,1:1|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,224999,1,2,0:0:0:0:
255,91,225088,2,0,B|238:46|267:46|287:25|287:25|299:49|331:59|294:100,1,170.999995433807,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,225356,1,2,0:0:0:0:
316,274,225445,2,0,B|356:301|332:318|329:346|329:346|305:334|272:345|279:290,1,170.999995433807,0|2,1:1|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,225713,1,2,0:0:0:0:
159,162,225802,2,0,B|111:164|120:136|106:111|106:111|132:107|152:79|179:127,1,170.999995433807,4|0,1:2|1:0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,226070,5,0,1:0:0:0:
317,220,226159,2,0,P|319:247|331:271,1,53.9999983520508,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
195,220,226338,2,0,P|193:247|181:271,1,53.9999983520508,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
384,228,226516,5,0,1:0:0:0:
317,220,226606,1,2,0:1:0:0:
256,192,226695,1,2,0:1:0:0:
195,220,226784,1,2,0:1:0:0:
128,228,226874,1,0,1:0:0:0:
256,352,227052,1,2,0:1:0:0:
159,162,227231,5,4,0:1:0:0:
256,192,227409,1,0,0:2:0:0:
332,152,227588,1,0,0:2:0:0:
360,84,227766,1,0,0:0:0:0:
328,4,227945,5,0,0:0:0:0:
360,84,228124,1,0,0:0:0:0:
420,128,228302,1,0,0:0:0:0:
484,136,228481,1,0,0:0:0:0:
512,112,228659,5,0,0:0:0:0:
472,168,228838,1,0,0:0:0:0:
456,252,229016,1,0,0:0:0:0:
492,352,229195,1,0,0:0:0:0:
352,280,229374,6,0,B|264:192|158:262|158:262|203:347|284:311,1,360,2|0,0:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
352,280,230936,5,0,0:0:0:0:
[Kamiya]
加油,re的快要unrank了
19:12 [Kamiya]: 粉丝说话啊
19:12 papapa213: 爱你
19:12 [Kamiya]: 01:13:124 (2,3) -
19:13 [Kamiya]: 这里到后面的同样的地方
19:13 [Kamiya]: 你把间距拉短点
19:13 papapa213: 三连的间距还是01:13:302 (4,1) - 的间距
19:15 [Kamiya]: 01:15:266 (6,7,8) -
19:15 [Kamiya]: 这里你用的音效都是强调的
19:15 [Kamiya]: 跟前面的排列却一样
19:16 [Kamiya]: 改成三连接个单点
19:17 papapa213: 03:40:981 (6,7,8) - 那这里是不是得一块改
19:17 [Kamiya]: 像这么长的曲子。kiai你还得保持一致性好些 这样打起来轻松些
19:18 [Kamiya]: 嗯
19:20 papapa213: 那一堆三连你说的改成滑条接单点是指什么
19:20 papapa213: 00:55:981 (2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) -
19:20 papapa213: 是指改成01:21:516 (1,2,3) - 这种节奏吗
19:21 [Kamiya]: 你想下啊
19:21 [Kamiya]: 0.5x滑条到1.25x替增
19:21 [Kamiya]: 不是
19:21 papapa213: 0.0
19:21 [Kamiya]: 改成滑条带单点
19:22 papapa213: 不太明白……能不能下一个给我康康
19:29 [Kamiya]: 01:03:838 (6,8) - ctrl g
19:29 papapa213: 你刚才说01:13:124 (2,3,4) - 这里的三连改小间距
19:29 papapa213: 只改这里是不是也不太好
19:30 [Kamiya]: 我说了像这样的都要改啊
19:30 [Kamiya]: 太多了我没都举例出来
19:30 papapa213: 03:38:838 (2,3,4) -
19:30 papapa213: 还有这事吗
19:30 papapa213: 呃
19:30 [Kamiya]: 01:05:266 (4,5,1) -
19:30 papapa213: 01:05:266 (4,5,1) - 这种?
19:30 papapa213: 喔
19:30 [Kamiya]: 01:08:124 (5,6,7) -
19:31 [Kamiya]: 01:10:981 (1,2,3) -
19:31 papapa213: 01:15:266 (6,7,8) - 就是除了这种重音的都改了事吗
19:31 [Kamiya]: 这个不是重音的所以跟上面一样
19:31 [Kamiya]: 嗯
19:31 [Kamiya]: 01:18:838 (2,3,4) -
19:32 [Kamiya]: 这里开始的三连间距再小点
19:32 [Kamiya]: 01:19:909 (1,2,3) - 到这里的替增感要更强烈点才对
19:32 [Kamiya]: 递增
19:32 papapa213: 喔 好
19:33 papapa213: 这段你觉得三连还行?
19:33 [Kamiya]: 01:27:231 (1) - 说实话这个不好看。
19:33 [Kamiya]: 嗯
19:33 [Kamiya]: 这里你放着可以
19:33 papapa213: 那行
19:33 [Kamiya]: 01:32:052 (4,1) - 你这个地方没被说吗
19:33 [Kamiya]: 感觉要遮好吧
19:34 [Kamiya]: 遮住好些
19:34 papapa213: 02:04:552 (2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) -
19:34 papapa213: 这里呢
19:34 [Kamiya]: 01:35:266 (1,2,3,2) - 还有这里的 这种看着很不舒服的
19:34 [Kamiya]: 虽然玩起来不会注意那么多
19:34 [Kamiya]: 但是mapper只在编辑器里看图
19:35 papapa213: 前面那个我让他罩的多了点 想让它往下错开点
19:35 [Kamiya]: 02:04:552 (2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - 这里可以
19:35 papapa213: 但是前面改了这里不要保持一致吗
19:36 [Kamiya]: 你之前就保持一致了吗
19:36 papapa213: 至少节奏一致(
19:37 [Kamiya]: 我说一致是在kiai部分
19:37 [Kamiya]: 不需要你位置一致 节奏和摆放的物件一致就行
19:37 papapa213: 不过
19:37 papapa213: 刚才kiai那一堆三连都改了间距
19:38 papapa213: 01:38:124 (4,5,6) -
19:38 papapa213: 这种平缓段的三连间距比kiai还大是不是就不合适了
19:38 [Kamiya]: 看着好看
19:38 [Kamiya]: 这个看你自己怎么改了
19:38 papapa213: 那这样是不是就有点kiai比非kiai简单了……
19:39 [Kamiya]: 你这种摆放的三连hr玩家肯定要吐槽的
19:39 [Kamiya]: 简单了?
19:39 [Kamiya]: 你哪里看出来简单了
19:40 papapa213: 因为三连间距比kiai大?
19:40 papapa213: 哪种三连会被hr玩家吐槽 是你刚才说让我缩小间距的那一堆吗
19:41 [Kamiya]: 当然是大的啊
19:41 [Kamiya]: 没玩过hr
19:41 [Kamiya]: 吗
19:41 [Kamiya]: 我的粉丝哟
19:41 papapa213: = =
19:41 papapa213: 有点乱 屡一下
19:42 [Kamiya]: 间距拉太大的话 hr只会让间距更大
19:42 papapa213: 这个我堇
19:42 papapa213: 前面聊的时候有点不知道哪说的是哪了
19:43 [Kamiya]: 02:30:624 (2) - 感觉你这尾音轨是多余的 改成单点吧
19:43 [Kamiya]: .....
19:44 papapa213: 多余是多余 不过这个拐着扭的flow感觉还是有点好玩
19:44 [Kamiya]: 那随便吧
19:44 [Kamiya]: 那两个单点你觉得怎么样
19:53 papapa213: 尾音轨多余更不适合单点了吧 划一下混过去得了
19:54 [Kamiya]: 单点间距短点应该没事
19:55 papapa213: 不对啊
19:55 papapa213: 这尾音轨有声音啊
19:55 papapa213: 而且挺重的
19:56 [Kamiya]: 我咋听不出来啊
19:56 [Kamiya]: 要不你加上啊
19:56 papapa213: 咚 的一声
19:56 papapa213: 删了这个滑条你听听
19:57 [Kamiya]: 要不你把咚的那一声加到滑条尾上啊
19:59 papapa213: 懒了不改了 前面02:30:088 (1) - 开头咚了一下 这里再咚有点吵 加的话要重新想这一段音效(
20:00 [Kamiya]: ...
20:01 [Kamiya]: 那你还不如之前把整个音效听下来再下节奏
20:01 papapa213: ...

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papapa213

[Kamiya] wrote:

加油,re的快要unrank了
19:12 [Kamiya]: 粉丝说话啊
19:12 papapa213: 爱你
19:12 [Kamiya]: 01:13:124 (2,3) -
19:13 [Kamiya]: 这里到后面的同样的地方
19:13 [Kamiya]: 你把间距拉短点
19:13 papapa213: 三连的间距还是01:13:302 (4,1) - 的间距
19:15 [Kamiya]: 01:15:266 (6,7,8) -
19:15 [Kamiya]: 这里你用的音效都是强调的
19:15 [Kamiya]: 跟前面的排列却一样
19:16 [Kamiya]: 改成三连接个单点
19:17 papapa213: 03:40:981 (6,7,8) - 那这里是不是得一块改
19:17 [Kamiya]: 像这么长的曲子。kiai你还得保持一致性好些 这样打起来轻松些
19:18 [Kamiya]: 嗯
19:20 papapa213: 那一堆三连你说的改成滑条接单点是指什么
19:20 papapa213: 00:55:981 (2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) -
19:20 papapa213: 是指改成01:21:516 (1,2,3) - 这种节奏吗
19:21 [Kamiya]: 你想下啊
19:21 [Kamiya]: 0.5x滑条到1.25x替增
19:21 [Kamiya]: 不是
19:21 papapa213: 0.0
19:21 [Kamiya]: 改成滑条带单点
19:22 papapa213: 不太明白……能不能下一个给我康康
19:29 [Kamiya]: 01:03:838 (6,8) - ctrl g
19:29 papapa213: 你刚才说01:13:124 (2,3,4) - 这里的三连改小间距
19:29 papapa213: 只改这里是不是也不太好
19:30 [Kamiya]: 我说了像这样的都要改啊
19:30 [Kamiya]: 太多了我没都举例出来
19:30 papapa213: 03:38:838 (2,3,4) -
19:30 papapa213: 还有这事吗
19:30 papapa213: 呃
19:30 [Kamiya]: 01:05:266 (4,5,1) -
19:30 papapa213: 01:05:266 (4,5,1) - 这种?
19:30 papapa213: 喔
19:30 [Kamiya]: 01:08:124 (5,6,7) -
19:31 [Kamiya]: 01:10:981 (1,2,3) -
19:31 papapa213: 01:15:266 (6,7,8) - 就是除了这种重音的都改了事吗
19:31 [Kamiya]: 这个不是重音的所以跟上面一样
19:31 [Kamiya]: 嗯
19:31 [Kamiya]: 01:18:838 (2,3,4) -
19:32 [Kamiya]: 这里开始的三连间距再小点
19:32 [Kamiya]: 01:19:909 (1,2,3) - 到这里的替增感要更强烈点才对
19:32 [Kamiya]: 递增
19:32 papapa213: 喔 好
19:33 papapa213: 这段你觉得三连还行?
19:33 [Kamiya]: 01:27:231 (1) - 说实话这个不好看。
19:33 [Kamiya]: 嗯
19:33 [Kamiya]: 这里你放着可以
19:33 papapa213: 那行
19:33 [Kamiya]: 01:32:052 (4,1) - 你这个地方没被说吗
19:33 [Kamiya]: 感觉要遮好吧
19:34 [Kamiya]: 遮住好些
19:34 papapa213: 02:04:552 (2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) -
19:34 papapa213: 这里呢
19:34 [Kamiya]: 01:35:266 (1,2,3,2) - 还有这里的 这种看着很不舒服的
19:34 [Kamiya]: 虽然玩起来不会注意那么多
19:34 [Kamiya]: 但是mapper只在编辑器里看图
19:35 papapa213: 前面那个我让他罩的多了点 想让它往下错开点
19:35 [Kamiya]: 02:04:552 (2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - 这里可以
19:35 papapa213: 但是前面改了这里不要保持一致吗
19:36 [Kamiya]: 你之前就保持一致了吗
19:36 papapa213: 至少节奏一致(
19:37 [Kamiya]: 我说一致是在kiai部分
19:37 [Kamiya]: 不需要你位置一致 节奏和摆放的物件一致就行
19:37 papapa213: 不过
19:37 papapa213: 刚才kiai那一堆三连都改了间距
19:38 papapa213: 01:38:124 (4,5,6) -
19:38 papapa213: 这种平缓段的三连间距比kiai还大是不是就不合适了
19:38 [Kamiya]: 看着好看
19:38 [Kamiya]: 这个看你自己怎么改了
19:38 papapa213: 那这样是不是就有点kiai比非kiai简单了……
19:39 [Kamiya]: 你这种摆放的三连hr玩家肯定要吐槽的
19:39 [Kamiya]: 简单了?
19:39 [Kamiya]: 你哪里看出来简单了
19:40 papapa213: 因为三连间距比kiai大?
19:40 papapa213: 哪种三连会被hr玩家吐槽 是你刚才说让我缩小间距的那一堆吗
19:41 [Kamiya]: 当然是大的啊
19:41 [Kamiya]: 没玩过hr
19:41 [Kamiya]: 吗
19:41 [Kamiya]: 我的粉丝哟
19:41 papapa213: = =
19:41 papapa213: 有点乱 屡一下
19:42 [Kamiya]: 间距拉太大的话 hr只会让间距更大
19:42 papapa213: 这个我堇
19:42 papapa213: 前面聊的时候有点不知道哪说的是哪了
19:43 [Kamiya]: 02:30:624 (2) - 感觉你这尾音轨是多余的 改成单点吧
19:43 [Kamiya]: .....
19:44 papapa213: 多余是多余 不过这个拐着扭的flow感觉还是有点好玩
19:44 [Kamiya]: 那随便吧
19:44 [Kamiya]: 那两个单点你觉得怎么样
19:53 papapa213: 尾音轨多余更不适合单点了吧 划一下混过去得了
19:54 [Kamiya]: 单点间距短点应该没事
19:55 papapa213: 不对啊
19:55 papapa213: 这尾音轨有声音啊
19:55 papapa213: 而且挺重的
19:56 [Kamiya]: 我咋听不出来啊
19:56 [Kamiya]: 要不你加上啊
19:56 papapa213: 咚 的一声
19:56 papapa213: 删了这个滑条你听听
19:57 [Kamiya]: 要不你把咚的那一声加到滑条尾上啊
19:59 papapa213: 懒了不改了 前面02:30:088 (1) - 开头咚了一下 这里再咚有点吵 加的话要重新想这一段音效(
20:00 [Kamiya]: ...
20:01 [Kamiya]: 那你还不如之前把整个音效听下来再下节奏
20:01 papapa213: ...

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