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KOTOKO x ALTIMA - PLASMIC FIRE [Taiko]

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ibacot
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Joined October 2014
Topic Starter
ibacot
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Sunday, August 11, 2019 at 1:19:38 PM

Artist: KOTOKO x ALTIMA
Title: PLASMIC FIRE
Source: アクセル・ワールド INFINITE∞BURST
Tags: kotoko x altima Satoshi Yaginuma Kai Kawasaki Shinya Saito a2c Accel World AW infinity main theme movie
BPM: 149
Filesize: 8420kb
Play Time: 05:19
Difficulties Available:
  1. Onyx (4.03 stars, 1367 notes)
Download: KOTOKO x ALTIMA - PLASMIC FIRE
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Accel World Infinite Burst
main theme


Onyx -> 100% by me

Hope this map could get ranked someday T_T)

Huge thanks to
Surono for mentoring me thorough mapping process
[Belajar-Osu] for encourage me again to push ranked this map after long time
also all of the modder and tester '-')b
Don't hate me about the sv #TeamSV 9>,<)9
Last edited by ibacot , edited 57 times in total.
Delta Airlines_old
5 posts
Joined April 2017
Delta Airlines_old
Oh.. It looks like I'm first here... Hello...
[Onyx]
General and foreword - First off, I really enjoyed playing this! What I mean is, well, let's just say I have about 1000+ maps and a collection titled "maps I actually like playing." This would go in that collection. Also, I don't hate you about the SV changes, lol. They're fine and fit the song. Anything else noteworthy I put at the end in "overall."

00:21:009 (45) - I would suggest this either be removed, or you add a kat at 00:14:566 to match. Personally though, I find it feels better with just the two dons, however! I also find that removing the first dons sounds and plays nicely too, and matches the patterns/flow you're using here. (example of what I mean)
00:22:821 - Perhaps you could add a note here? It keeps the rhythm going and fits the vocals/piano mix you're mapping to.
00:16:580 - I also think it wouldn't hurt to maybe add a note here too, like at 00:18:190 (37).
00:44:163 (45,46,47) - How about dkd here? Since this section is already alternating k and d a lot, and I personally like how it sounds and feels not beig plain ddd. (kdk could also work, but I liked dkd more.)
00:45:976 (54) - Starting from here, I feel like there's a bit overuse of don patterns. I like your variety in patterns, of course, but these are a bit common in this map and they feel very lacking. It was probably the one thing I didn't enjoy playing as much in this map. Even adding just a bit more kat makes it feel better. (This is just an example and not a real pattern suggestion, but I do feel like 00:46:378 (56) fits as a kat.)
00:58:459 (117) - And from here, you do use more kat and different patterns, which makes it a lot more enjoyable, which is why I think you should consider less "pure don" patterns suggested in above.
01:11:143 (181,182,183,184,185,186) - This stream really doesn't sit well with me here, especially being right next to the roll. And since the real beat/percussion is more like this. At the very least, I would remove parts of the stream so it doesn't directly lead into the roll.
01:14:163 - I think this is a better ending point for the roll. I can tell you probably extended it for the little synth sounds in the background after she holds out the note, but since it appears to be mapped to the vocals, and then keeps going for that, it just seems a bit strange.
01:14:969 - I especially encourage the above suggestion since putting a plain note here sounds a lot better as a transition into the vocals.
01:39:130 (263) - I personally don't feel like the roll is fitting here, or at least for the full "eranda." If you still want the roll, you could try this, maybe.
01:49:801 (307,308,309) - You might not like me for this, but I think kkk could work better here as a contrast to the pure don at 01:48:190 (298,299,300), especially since she's singing with more intensity and a higher pitch here.
01:56:848 (344) - The same things I said about the pure don in the first kiai apply here too, of course, so I won't repeat myself. The actual rhythms themselves are fine, though. I think I forgot to say that the first time.
02:09:231 (406) - (Not a suggestion, I just really like these patterns and rhythm. Thank you.)
02:50:606 - It feels weird not having a note here, since she's clearly saying "dakara" in a triplet.
03:18:996 (212,214) - Before, you had these as kats, which fit the vocals and beat a lot more. Variety in patterns is nice, but it doesn't quite make sense to me to leave these different.
03:35:506 (301) - If you're mapping to the synth hits, then I think this needs to be moved 03:35:405. I'm hearing the note there, not where it is right now.
03:42:553 (335,336,337,338,339) - I felt like kkdd played better for this stream. It felt a little more comfortable. 03:42:049 (330) Could be a don, too.
04:06:110 (403) - The thing about the pure dons really applies around these patterns from this point. It also makes it a bit boring to play. ^^;

Overall - While I appreciate the variety in your patterns and your mapping style, it feels like it lacks a bit too much consistency. As in, the pattern changes every (or almost every) time. Basically, I think adding a little more uniformity couldn't hurt your map. You could also try some clever things with pattern inversions, if you wanted. Other than the pure don patterns, I feel like it's the one thing this map is lacking. It's just too inconsistent.
Alright! I hope that was respectful enough. I didn't mean to sound like I was bagging on your mapping style or anything when talking about inconsistency, I like it quite a bit. ;; But hopefully it was helpful feedback. Good luck! I'm rooting for this to get approved...
ibacot
142 posts
Joined October 2014
Topic Starter
ibacot

Delta Airlines wrote:

Oh.. It looks like I'm first here... Hello...
[Onyx]
General and foreword - First off, I really enjoyed playing this! What I mean is, well, let's just say I have about 1000+ maps and a collection titled "maps I actually like playing." This would go in that collection. Also, I don't hate you about the SV changes, lol. They're fine and fit the song. Anything else noteworthy I put at the end in "overall." Thank you :)

00:21:009 (45) - I would suggest this either be removed, or you add a kat at 00:14:566 to match. Personally though, I find it feels better with just the two dons, however! I also find that removing the first dons sounds and plays nicely too, and matches the patterns/flow you're using here. (example of what I mean) decided the second choice to match it
00:22:821 - Perhaps you could add a note here? It keeps the rhythm going and fits the vocals/piano mix you're mapping to. added d
00:16:580 - I also think it wouldn't hurt to maybe add a note here too, like at 00:18:190 (37). added k
00:44:163 (45,46,47) - How about dkd here? Since this section is already alternating k and d a lot, and I personally like how it sounds and feels not beig plain ddd. (kdk could also work, but I liked dkd more.) ok dkd
00:45:976 (54) - Starting from here, I feel like there's a bit overuse of don patterns. I like your variety in patterns, of course, but these are a bit common in this map and they feel very lacking. It was probably the one thing I didn't enjoy playing as much in this map. Even adding just a bit more kat makes it feel better. (This is just an example and not a real pattern suggestion, but I do feel like 00:46:378 (56) fits as a kat.) ok
00:58:459 (117) - And from here, you do use more kat and different patterns, which makes it a lot more enjoyable, which is why I think you should consider less "pure don" patterns suggested in above. i want too but looks like my style forced me to use d a lot T_T
01:11:143 (181,182,183,184,185,186) - This stream really doesn't sit well with me here, especially being right next to the roll. And since the real beat/percussion is more like this. At the very least, I would remove parts of the stream so it doesn't directly lead into the roll. i think the stream fit well with the tempo but the transition still not quite right with the roll so i move it to 01:11:848 -
01:14:163 - I think this is a better ending point for the roll. I can tell you probably extended it for the little synth sounds in the background after she holds out the note, but since it appears to be mapped to the vocals, and then keeps going for that, it just seems a bit strange.i feel like kinda strange to end the the roll in 01:14:163 or 01:14:566 - so i decided to end it in a clear sound like 01:14:969
01:14:969 - I especially encourage the above suggestion since putting a plain note here sounds a lot better as a transition into the vocals. rejected -_-
01:39:130 (263) - I personally don't feel like the roll is fitting here, or at least for the full "eranda." If you still want the roll, you could try this, maybe. decided to remap into full note
01:49:801 (307,308,309) - You might not like me for this, but I think kkk could work better here as a contrast to the pure don at 01:48:190 (298,299,300), especially since she's singing with more intensity and a higher pitch here. after second thought, decided to changed it to dkk
01:56:848 (344) - The same things I said about the pure don in the first kiai apply here too, of course, so I won't repeat myself. The actual rhythms themselves are fine, though. I think I forgot to say that the first time. ^^
02:09:231 (406) - (Not a suggestion, I just really like these patterns and rhythm. Thank you.) You're welcome '-')
02:50:606 - It feels weird not having a note here, since she's clearly saying "dakara" in a triplet. ok....
03:18:996 (212,214) - Before, you had these as kats, which fit the vocals and beat a lot more. Variety in patterns is nice, but it doesn't quite make sense to me to leave these different. ok
03:35:506 (301) - If you're mapping to the synth hits, then I think this needs to be moved 03:35:405. I'm hearing the note there, not where it is right now. decided to make it duplet with dk
03:42:553 (335,336,337,338,339) - I felt like kkdd played better for this stream. It felt a little more comfortable. 03:42:049 (330) Could be a don, too. agree on 03:42:049 to d....and i fell like lengthen the stream so added k in 03:43:056 -
04:06:110 (403) - The thing about the pure dons really applies around these patterns from this point. It also makes it a bit boring to play. ^^; will try to improved the pattern latter.... still have no idea -_-

Overall - While I appreciate the variety in your patterns and your mapping style, it feels like it lacks a bit too much consistency. As in, the pattern changes every (or almost every) time i need much time thinking of the pattern -_-. Basically, I think adding a little more uniformity couldn't hurt your map. You could also try some clever things with pattern inversions, if you wanted. Other than the pure don patterns, I feel like it's the one thing this map is lacking. It's just too inconsistent. i said it before in the the thread :D
Alright! I hope that was respectful enough. I didn't mean to sound like I was bagging on your mapping style or anything when talking about inconsistency, I like it quite a bit. ;; But hopefully it was helpful feedback. Good luck! I'm rooting for this to get approved... Thank you very much '-')b
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[R]
1,050 posts
Joined November 2013
[R]
IRC
21:21 [R]: ey
21:21 *[R] is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1269139 KOTOKO x ALTIMA - PLASMIC FIRE]
21:21 ibacot: '-'
21:21 ibacot: woh
21:21 [R]: mau irc mod ga
21:21 ibacot: kukira diabaiin
21:21 ibacot: boleh2
21:21 [R]: wkwkwk, nyari waktu @@
21:22 ibacot: sorry klo mapnya jelek
21:22 ibacot: masih noob -_-
21:22 [R]: lah woles aja, namanya belajar
21:22 ibacot: ok dah di editor
21:22 [R]: menurut gw nih, daripada ngasih variasi di kiai
21:22 [R]: mending dibuat increasing note
21:23 *[R] is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/711835 onoken - P8107]
21:23 *[R] is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/818080 toby fox - Spider Dance]
21:23 [R]: contoh
21:23 ibacot: ide2 notenya masih minim
21:23 [R]: hmm oke lah
21:23 [R]: soalnya ngulang ngulang itu pattern
21:23 ibacot: masih gk bisa bikin pattern yg rapet2 rumit gitu
21:24 [R]: ya asal pasang aja sih awal
21:24 [R]: kalo suaranya gak bagus, diganti
21:24 ibacot: lah aku tau suara bagus gk aja gk ngerti T_T
21:25 [R]: improve dong mainnya sampe inner xD
21:25 ibacot: Oni aja pas2an
21:25 [R]: baru ngerti tuh pattern" yang enak gmana
21:25 [R]: wkwkw
21:25 [R]: 00:10:137 - ganti don, untuk menekankan suara di 00:10:539 - 
21:26 ibacot: ok
21:26 ibacot: pattern ku aja yg non stream cuman berani pake 5note 1/4 doang....klo stream masih bisa lah didenger enaknya gimana
21:27 [R]: ga perlu maksa stream sih klo slow bpm
21:27 [R]: 00:15:170 (29,30,31,32) - ganti kd dk ,biar singel tap lebih enak
21:28 [R]: 00:21:613 - ganti kat bair nyamain ^
21:29 ibacot: ok
21:29 ibacot: walau perasaan sama2 enaknya
21:29 [R]: 00:15:774 (31,32) - ini suara vokalnya beda
21:30 ibacot: setuju kok....selama tetep enak biasanya aku gk nolak modding
21:31 [R]: 00:23:224 - | 00:24:835 - bisa add note, di awal" lu ngisi vokalnya
21:32 ibacot: hmm tapi awal2 rasanya jgn padat2 deh
21:33 [R]: marathon mah perlu mikirin padat/enggaknya
21:33 [R]: gak perlu*
21:34 ibacot: tapi klo padat semua jadi gk berasa yg harusnya epic gitu.... awal2 woles dulu
21:34 ibacot: klo kiai 3 dan 4 bisa dipadatin sih mantab
21:35 [R]:  itu belakangan
21:35 [R]: 00:37:721 - ganti kat | 00:37:922 - move 00:38:123 - ganti don
21:35 [R]: disini 00:37:922 - melodynya berhenti
21:36 ibacot: ok
21:37 [R]: 00:44:264 - mungkin ganti don biar ngepas sama drumnya
21:38 ibacot: waktu itu sih udah ddd...tapi modding pertama jadi pertimbangin dkd
21:39 [R]: oke
21:39 [R]: 00:54:835 - move 00:55:036 - biar ngepas sama vokal
21:39 ibacot: soalnya mapku kebanyakan ddd :D
21:40 [R]: atau 00:55:036 - add note aja, klo ga mau abaikan suara drum
21:40 ibacot: rasanya gk terlalu suka klo terlalu potong vokal gitu deh
21:41 [R]: ouh full drum
21:41 [R]: 00:56:848 - add note nih
21:41 ibacot: gk full drum sih...lebih ke gado2 vokal drum
21:41 [R]: yah style gw juga gtu @@
21:42 ibacot: triple aja deh yg 00:55:036 -
21:42 ibacot: ehh tapi simpen deh buat kiai 2 :D
21:42 [R]: bebas
21:42 [R]: 01:01:479 - add note juga biar konsisten
21:43 ibacot: ok
21:44 ibacot: kalau 01:01:680 (134,135,136,137) -  d terus kdd bagus gk?
21:44 [R]: d kkd mending
21:44 ibacot: yg add note tadi d aja
21:45 ibacot: oww ok
21:45 [R]:  01:11:445 - move 01:11:043 - | delete 01:11:647 - 
21:46 ibacot: hmm....klo itu jadi roll yg perlu maju...note depannya del juga?
21:46 [R]: yang mana
21:47 ibacot: 01:11:747 (190) -
21:47 [R]: ga usah
21:47 ibacot: 01:11:848 (191) - awal roll....perlu maju ke 01:11:747 (190) - ?
21:48 [R]: udah cukup sih menurut gw
21:48 ibacot: note dempet roll rankeable kan?
21:48 [R]: iya
21:48 ibacot: ok deh....
21:49 [R]: 01:30:271 - add note, suara penting disini
21:50 ibacot: disambung berarti
21:50 [R]: iya\
21:51 [R]: 01:33:694 (237,238,239) - ganti kdd
21:51 ibacot: soalnya part itu modelnya emang diputus2
21:51 [R]: oke fine
21:51 [R]: 01:33:694 (237,238,239) - ganti kdd , 01:33:694 - ini pitchnya tinggi
21:51 ibacot: rok
21:51 ibacot: ok
21:52 [R]: 01:34:096 - bisa kat untuk sedikit varisai
21:52 [R]: kebanyakan don
21:52 ibacot: ok...emang style ku dikritik berat ke don wkwkkw
21:53 ibacot: aku juga bingung napa suka pake don :D
21:53 [R]: wkwkw
21:53 [R]: ini serasa kayak covertan sih
21:53 ibacot: aku keseringan main convert -_-
21:54 [R]: 01:54:533 - add kat, biar pas sama alunan melodynya
21:55 [R]: 02:07:721 - add note
21:55 ibacot: woh...makin serem '-'
21:56 ibacot: kat aja ya
21:56 [R]: ok
21:57 [R]: 02:28:056 - ini kenapa kosong, di pattern awal ada note 00:35:304 - 
21:58 ibacot: entahlah.... wkwkkw
21:58 [R]: samain aja sama pattern awal
21:58 ibacot: jarang copas sih
21:58 [R]: seperti yang gw bilang
21:59 [R]: kalo ada patternya yang sama, dibikin increasing
21:59 [R]: 02:28:358 - | 02:31:586 - yang begini bisa add note
21:59 ibacot: pengin sih..tapi ilmu mapping masih noob
21:59 [R]: no problem lah
21:59 [R]: gw juga dulu masih noobies @@
22:00 [R]: bagian yang 02:28:056 - 02:28:358 - | 02:31:278 - 02:31:580 - | 02:34:794 - isi note
22:02 ibacot: hmm
22:03 ibacot: ok dah
22:04 [R]: 03:05:304 - isi note kayak di 01:54:533 - 
22:06 ibacot: ok
22:06 ibacot: ntah banyak yg udah bagus malah gk keisi lagi di berikutnya wkwk
22:07 [R]: 02:06:915 - | 02:07:217 - add note
22:07 [R]: back sedikit dulu xD
22:08 ibacot: woles aja ....bebas mau modding mana
22:10 [R]: sebenernya note note 03:08:325 - | o3:09:935 -  | 03:11:546 - begini bisa kat
22:11 [R]: jadi biar gampang ngasih increas note di kiai selanjutnya
22:11 ibacot: nah kan.....emang aneh aku condong ke don wwkwk
22:12 [R]: heh3
22:12 ibacot: rasanya gk gampang ngasih kat gitu klo ragu2....
22:13 [R]: 03:17:586 - | 03:17:788 - | 03:18:090 - add note
22:14 [R]: 03:18:593 - add note juga
22:16 ibacot: ok
22:17 ibacot: K besar di 03:17:385 (217) - klo dikasih note2 tadi jadi agak aneh....apa kecil aja ya
22:17 [R]: 03:34:700 - ini k d d ganti d d k, high pitch di 03:35:103 - 
22:18 ibacot: ok
22:19 [R]: 03:35:908 - k k dkkkd bikin dkd k kkd
22:20 ibacot: rasanya bagusan tadi deh
22:21 [R]: ngefollow suara electricnya
22:21 [R]: 03:35:908 - harusnya disini stream
22:21 [R]: dan 03:36:412 - ini break
22:21 ibacot: hmm
22:22 ibacot: 03:36:210 - diisi note berarti
22:23 [R]: 03:36:009 - disini
22:24 ibacot: hmm pending dulu part itu
22:24 [R]: 03:42:754 - ganti kat 03:42:955 - ganti don
22:24 [R]: stream yang sekarang gak frendly hit
22:25 ibacot: ok streamnya tetep mantab
22:27 [R]: jadi mikir keras gw mau ngasih sugesti di kiai
22:27 [R]: kyaknya segitu aja xD
22:27 ibacot: sorry ...kiai emang butuh kreativitas
22:28 ibacot: btw 03:35:908 (318,319,320,321,322,323,324,325) - dkkdk kkD....yg part tadi
22:28 [R]: ya itu pas kok
22:29 [R]: untuk HP kasih 5 aja
22:29 [R]: soalnya ini diff gak susah susah amat
22:29 ibacot: ok sip
22:29 ibacot: udah sering lihat Oni hp 6 dimana2 sekarang
22:29 ibacot: Oni hp 5 itu jaman2 2015
22:30 [R]: oke fine
22:30 ibacot: sekarang aja taiko OD 7 mulai muncul
22:30 ibacot: dulu mana pernah...OD 6 aja langka
22:30 [R]: ya itu aja menurut gw
22:30 ibacot: ok makasih banyak ya '-')b

My opinion : This map will be intresting if have an increasing note in some kiai's, but the problem is there has to much don in kiai's that makes you aware to placing some note
Surono
7,195 posts
Joined November 2013
Surono
overall is enough good bcus it is song, kiais structure needs more to work at consistency and expecting with more emphasized colors pattern in this map bcus too much dons

mod
22:51 ibacot: Malam Surono.....boleh req mod gk ?
22:52 Surono: gk
22:52 Surono: canda, mana.
22:52 *ibacot is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1269139 KOTOKO x ALTIMA - PLASMIC FIRE]
22:53 ibacot: lelah aku urus map yg satunya.....ini aja yg cuman taiko
23:02 *Surono is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1269139 KOTOKO x ALTIMA - PLASMIC FIRE]
23:04 ibacot: tadi udah dimodding ama [R]...katanya kiai 3-4 di up lagi tapi gk ngerti gimana
23:04 Surono: ,.
23:06 ibacot: mapping aja masih noob
23:11 Surono:  /np
23:11 *Surono is playing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1269139 KOTOKO x ALTIMA - PLASMIC FIRE [Onyx]] <Taiko> +Nightcore
23:11 Surono: lets try first,.
23:11 Surono: wew metonomenya ngaco...
23:11 ibacot: ikut nonton '-'
23:15 ibacot: stream panjang gitu nc bisa lolos
23:15 Surono: :|
23:16 Surono: 00:00:875 - metronome harusnya mulai dari sini
23:17 ibacot: itu aku set timing merah pake program
23:17 Surono: ..
23:18 Surono: aku aja ga percaya betul kalau sama program, harus tanya yg expert dalam hal timing.
23:19 ibacot: hmm.... tapi sama aja deh...yg 00:00:875 -  juga pas tick putih
23:19 Surono: its about metronome
23:20 Surono: di NC tadi aja sempet bingung di awal2 karna cymbal dari NC modsnya ga sama kayak si lagu
23:20 ibacot: tapi timing merah gk bisa atur speed T_T
23:20 Surono: put red and gree lines
23:20 ibacot: boleh ya?
23:20 Surono: at same time
23:20 Surono: allowed,.
23:22 Surono: justru silly reason kek gitu bakal bkin para timing user dateng2 terus ngebla2 map ini. simplenya ini tentang metronome ke lagunya
23:22 ibacot: ok done
23:22 Surono: strukture kiai kurang konsisten
23:22 Surono: 00:47:486 - nope
23:22 ibacot: ehh...yg mananya
23:23 Surono: hapus
23:23 ibacot: kiai kan di 00:45:976 (54) -
23:23 Surono: iyalah
23:23 Surono: polanya mas polanya :\
23:24 ibacot: ok
23:24 Surono: 00:47:184 - kat
23:24 Surono: 00:46:580 - sama, wehh kurang emphasize di sini sini
23:24 ibacot: ok boleh
23:25 ibacot: emang diriku kebanyakan don....aku juga heran
23:25 Surono: lah yg ngemap siapa coba wwww
23:25 ibacot: masih gk peka ama kat ...T_T
23:25 Surono: menurutku yg ada skarang aku cuma bisa ngenazi
23:26 Surono: 00:48:593 - kkd 1/4
23:26 Surono: overall map kaya gini.... katnya less mah map bosenin......
23:26 Surono: 00:48:190 - yha kat, 
23:27 ibacot: maafin aku yg noob mapper gini T_T)
23:27 Surono: 00:51:714 - ada suara, kok kliatannya undermapped ini masnya
23:27 Surono: 00:54:633 - kat
23:28 Surono: 00:56:043 - add notes
23:28 Surono: 00:57:653 - 00:58:056 - fill finish
23:28 Surono: 00:59:969 - lah disini malah ga ada note?
23:29 ibacot: hmm
23:29 Surono: 01:01:982 - strukturnya jadi random gini pas msk pertengahan kiai
23:30 ibacot: hmm.... emang divariasi
23:30 Surono: 01:04:499 - bukan d ddk disini, tapi dd dk
23:30 Surono: variasi tapi bagiku random
23:30 Surono: konsisten struktur di map itu penting, variasi ga lebih cuma beda warna atau increasing density imo
23:30 Surono: huft...........
23:31 ibacot: -_-\
23:31 Surono: 01:10:942 -  ini ga susah? jadiin kkddk
23:32 ibacot: tadi ama [R} udah diapprove
23:32 Surono: level oni juga intensity kok udah kaya inner????
23:32 Surono: kkddk lebih simple dan rapi sama penekanan vokalnya.
23:33 ibacot: 1/4 5 gitu inner ya?.....padahal gk sering juga
23:33 Surono: warnanya mas
23:34 ibacot: tapi rencana cuman 1 diff sih.....
23:34 ibacot: gk bilang Oni juga
23:34 Surono: im talking about structure?
23:34 ibacot: aku gk paham strukture T_T
23:34 Surono: aku cuma bilangin ganti warna lho..
23:34 Surono: 01:11:747 - ini svnya overlap pas udah msk 01:15:573 - 
23:35 Surono: coba F5, di tes... tiba2 itu donnya muncul kehalang slidernya
23:35 ibacot: hmmm apa speednya tetep aja ya?
23:35 ibacot: kan cuman roll
23:35 Surono: 1.0 > 0.70 jauh banget
23:36 ibacot: hmm
23:36 ibacot: naikin dikit deh klo gitu
23:36 Surono: 85 biar imbang
23:36 Surono: ga tiba2 nongol pas slider ujungnya.
23:37 ibacot: bentar...coba kuatur2 lagi
23:37 Surono: bahaya buat pemain HD, ga pake mods udah bikin fokus apa lagi pake HD yg tiba2 suka kaget.
23:38 ibacot: 0,8x cocok?
23:38 Surono: ya lumayan
23:38 ibacot: kunaikin yg part lambat jadi +0,1 semua
23:38 Surono: 02:02:486 - 
23:38 Surono: 02:02:687 - geser kesitu, terus 02:02:586 - add note
23:38 ibacot: ok
23:39 ibacot: entah napa model gitu kok lebih suka model x xxx daripada xx xx
23:40 Surono: but suaranya ga cocok :P
23:40 ibacot: kupikir2 lagi deh
23:41 Surono: bilang aja situ ga suka xx xx. you map to song, not about ur subjective reason
23:41 Surono: 02:51:613 - kddkD ....
23:42 ibacot: klo didenger lebih cocok ke x xx x x
23:42 Surono: 02:51:412 - jadiin kat biar ga ngagetin.
23:42 ibacot: ok
23:42 Surono: 02:02:486 - kick, 02:02:586 - clap, 02:02:687 - whistle, 02:02:788 - kick, 02:02:888 - clap
23:43 Surono: itu bisa jadi xxxxx, tapi whistilenya lemah
23:43 Surono: makanya ckup diteken pake structure xx xx
23:43 Surono: itu bukan soal hitsounds lho, aku jelasin suara yg dari lagunya.
23:44 ibacot: hmm.... ok deh coba dulu
23:45 Surono: 03:43:056 - 03:43:157 - swap warna.
23:46 ibacot: jadi ending K ya?
23:46 Surono: ya
23:47 Surono: ini bener overall SVsnya paling tinggi x1.50?????
23:47 ibacot: ehh...gk boleh kah T_T
23:47 Surono: tinggi banget, tadi di DT pas dibagian high svnya kenceng banget... apa lagi di kasih HR sama HD lol
23:47 Surono: bukan ga boleh, berlebihan.. boleh pake setinggi gitu kalau emang intensity lagu kuat banget dan jarang dipake.
23:48 ibacot: soalnya pas bagian epic menurutku sih.....
23:48 Surono: kaya map2 jadul. setiap part bagian trakhir it...... epic epic apanya.....
23:48 ibacot: itu juga cuman 1 note
23:48 Surono: ngemap buat player, bkan buat mikir ""ye saya pnya map rank!" :C
23:48 Surono: note it maznya.....
23:48 ibacot: 1,5x nya cuman 1 note doang padahal -_-
23:49 Surono: mana
23:49 Surono: >_> ekekekwkwe
23:49 *Surono triggered
23:49 ibacot: 00:45:976 (54) -
23:49 Surono: ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
23:49 ibacot: yg itu doang
23:49 Surono: 1
23:49 Surono: o
23:49 Surono: blame me, haduhhh -_---
23:50 Surono: soalnya udah sering nemu map bermaslah... makanya liat dkit aja triggered kekeke.
23:50 ibacot: 03:48:794 (388) -
23:50 ibacot: sorry salah copas
23:50 Surono: ,.
23:51 ibacot: ehh 2 note sih '-'
23:51 Surono: heww.. untung lagunya gampang di map, harusnya cari modder lagi dah beres.......
23:51 ibacot: finisher semua
23:51 Surono: ya ya gpp.... itu semua ga overlap kok, epic.
23:51 ibacot: ok
23:52 Surono: dah aku post ya, kalau yg bagiannya panjang.... misal......
23:52 Surono: 04:05:506 - suddenly banget increasingnya
23:52 Surono: 1.10 terus... 04:05:707 - 1.20
23:52 Surono: 1.05 terus 1.10 lah.......
23:53 Surono: 04:18:593 - ini sv pindahin 04:18:694 - kesini biar rapi buat next partnya.
23:53 ibacot: hmm
23:53 Surono: 1.3 jadi 1.2
23:53 Surono: diturun2in biar bersahabat dimaenin.
23:53 ibacot: ok
23:53 Surono: bpm 100 ~ 120 ga maslah pake 1.3 mulu. kalau dah 120 ke atas udah parah wkkww.
23:53 ibacot: kiai terakhir pengin ngekill acc sih :D
23:53 Surono: :^|
23:54 ibacot: bpm 149
23:54 Surono: ya ,.
23:54 Surono: dah gitu aja,.
23:54 ibacot: ok ...makasih Surono
23:55 Surono: ntar...
23:55 Surono: yg kudu di benahin lagi, struktur2nya di kiai.... keknya yg ga rapi itu kiai semua...
23:55 ibacot: kan kuvariasi patternnya -_-
23:55 Surono: yg dimaksud ronal di kiai ke 3 4 atau 4 aja itu buat di increasing density tapi.... aaa lupa gimana mapnya lagi
23:56 Surono: variasinya jgn di strukture dong...... semua BN kalau liat map gini mah ga bakal mau ngurus karna mikirnya bkin males
23:56 ibacot: mungkin coba kupadetin lagi
23:56 ibacot: butuh inspirasi
23:56 Surono: struktur di konsistenin... tapi kalau variasi warna aja...
23:56 Surono: part sama, cuma perlu copy paste
23:57 Surono: atau emang semua itu bener2 pure ngemap manual?
23:57 Surono: situ copy paste kan sambil dirombak rambik dkit toh?
23:58 ibacot: ya sih pure ngemap
23:58 ibacot: males copas
23:58 Surono: ,......
23:58 Surono: padhal ga maslah kalau copas kalau mau rapi
23:59 Surono: kok malah kebalik..... aku males malah pure ngemap kalau lagunya emang sering ngeloop
23:59 ibacot: soalnya klo copas ngebosenin
23:59 Surono: ya udah oeg, cari modder sampe buanyak juga gpp.,
23:59 Surono: ya copas trus di utek utek biar ga bosenin.

yeah find modders more pls.

Good Luck
Aisha
837 posts
Joined December 2012
Aisha
Hi! Mod as requested on my queue https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/p/5938655
I hope this can help you ^^

[General]
  1. Just want to point there are so much kiai, you should delete this 00:45:976 - (even it's same sound than the other ones) cause it's a little early and you could skip this ^^
  2. 00:26:647 - 00:28:258 - you use 30% volume on first one, then you change to 10%, I think you should change the second to 30 or maybe increase since the song doesn't became lower than the first one
  3. So much SV changes :o, I know they're fun and playable, but you need to get a line about your mapping, I suggest using more 1,0x and just use in neccesary case. Also consider the map is kind of easy and newer players couldn't get SV changes that easy
  4. Also consider changing OD to 5 and HP to 5 since it's a marathon. Could be even a little less because SR is low :p
  5. Where did you get the diffname from? o: it's a little strange and (i don't know exactly tbh) I think it's not related totally about the song :c
[Onyx]
  1. 00:00:875 (1) - don't use finish here! It doesn't fit at all and isn't neccesary
  2. 00:04:097 (6) - ^
  3. 00:07:318 (11) - ^
  4. 00:10:540 (16) - ^
  5. 00:06:312 (9) - try a don here, it's a low pitch than 00:03:090 (4) - and also can give it a more dynamic pattern :P
  6. 00:09:533 (14,15) - ctrl+g or use double kat, up to you
  7. 00:12:352 (20) - don to make more emphasis on next note :D
  8. 00:13:157 (23) - you could do don here too
  9. 00:13:761 (25) - hmmm not sure about this, you could hold this big note just cause it's section beggining but I don't think it's totally proper :/
  10. 00:13:761 - you start following vocals from here so you should make 00:14:164 (26,27,28) - kk and delete the third note
  11. 00:20:204 (44) - not big note aswell
  12. 00:21:010 (47) - same comment!
  13. 00:22:822 (52,53,54) - use this better
  14. 00:24:231 - also add some note here
  15. 00:25:439 (60) - K
  16. 00:29:466 - try to finish spinner here to let some space before the next note
  17. 00:33:090 (1,2) - try double k here
  18. 00:42:755 (40,41) - K D
  19. 00:43:862 (43) - this double isn't neccesary here I think
  20. 00:52:016 (88,89) - you could change one of them to kat to make an emphasis on 00:52:419 (90) -
  21. 00:55:641 (108,110) - don't do finish on these :P
  22. 00:56:345 - if you agree with above comment then add kat here!
  23. 00:57:251 (114) - kat and 00:57:453 (115) - big kat probably are better
  24. 00:58:258 - you could add some note here to follow the vocal that sounds :P
  25. 01:00:875 - from here you lose lot of consistency that you were holding great on last section, try making this again :3
  26. 01:05:305 (157,165) - if you're holding big notes try using K and K on both
  27. 01:06:110 - is better
  28. 01:08:124 (170,172) - don't use finish on these and finish with kat because last pitch is higher
  29. 01:11:748 (190) - you should use spinner instead slider here cuz slider is consider like a stream part :P
  30. 01:15:573 - i'm not totally sure what are you following on this section ;; but taking a fast look 01:16:580 (193) - this note sounds strange :c
  31. 01:23:023 (204,205) - ctrl+g these
  32. 01:15:573 (191) - kat here
  33. 01:27:855 (217) - K? probably
well I'm sorry for not modding the whole map :c but I think every comments about consistency and note changes applies through the song, you could consider a remap and a total overview again :3. I think the idea is good (and the song too) so I hope my suggestions are helpful for you :3. Best of luck!
ibacot
142 posts
Joined October 2014
Topic Starter
ibacot

xfraczynho wrote:

Hi! Mod as requested on my queue https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/p/5938655
I hope this can help you ^^

[General]
  1. Just want to point there are so much kiai, you should delete this 00:45:976 - (even it's same sound than the other ones) cause it's a little early and you could skip this ^^ as my experience of player, the <2mnt song have 1 kiai, 2-4 mnt song have 2 kiai...arround 4/5 mnt have 3 kiai...but the similiarity sound that made me use 4 kiai..... i will rethink about this later
  2. 00:26:647 - 00:28:258 - you use 30% volume on first one, then you change to 10%, I think you should change the second to 30 or maybe increase since the song doesn't became lower than the first one hmmm maybe i should switch it '-' to 10% -> 30 %
  3. So much SV changes :o, I know they're fun and playable, but you need to get a line about your mapping, I suggest using more 1,0x and just use in neccesary case. Also consider the map is kind of easy and newer players couldn't get SV changes that easy Because SV is fun...and all of SV pretty readable i think (maybe not for the last one :D)
  4. Also consider changing OD to 5 and HP to 5 since it's a marathon. Could be even a little less because SR is low :p do i can't use OD/HP 6 -_-? ...... it seem i have to lower it to OD5/HP6 for now
  5. Where did you get the diffname from? o: it's a little strange and (i don't know exactly tbh) I think it's not related totally about the song :cHave you saw the movie.... "Nyx" is the main boss there..so i combine it with Oni and become Onyx (the pronountation is rather same '-'
[Onyx]
  1. 00:00:875 (1) - don't use finish here! It doesn't fit at all and isn't neccesary clearly there is a strong sound there....
  2. 00:04:097 (6) - ^ ^ same
  3. 00:07:318 (11) - ^ ^ same
  4. 00:10:540 (16) - ^ ^ same
  5. 00:06:312 (9) - try a don here, it's a low pitch than 00:03:090 (4) - and also can give it a more dynamic pattern :P ok
  6. 00:09:533 (14,15) - ctrl+g or use double kat, up to you ok
  7. 00:12:352 (20) - don to make more emphasis on next note :D ok
  8. 00:13:157 (23) - you could do don here too nope for this
  9. 00:13:761 (25) - hmmm not sure about this, you could hold this big note just cause it's section beggining but I don't think it's totally proper :/
  10. 00:13:761 - you start following vocals from here so you should make 00:14:164 (26,27,28) - kk and delete the third note my style is a mix between vocal and instrument so it would play naturally...... clearly there is a sound that i can't ignore :D
  11. 00:20:204 (44) - not big note aswell but i think that just fine
  12. 00:21:010 (47) - same comment! same ^ -_-\
  13. 00:22:822 (52,53,54) - use this better hmm... i will use d k d d
  14. 00:24:231 - also add some note here decided to make 00:24:030 (57,58,59) - ddd
  15. 00:25:439 (60) - K i think that not quite right
  16. 00:29:466 - try to finish spinner here to let some space before the next note ok
  17. 00:33:090 (1,2) - try double k here ok
  18. 00:42:755 (40,41) - K D hmm... nope
  19. 00:43:862 (43) - this double isn't neccesary here I think hmm...ok then
  20. 00:52:016 (88,89) - you could change one of them to kat to make an emphasis on 00:52:419 (90) - ok...ddk
  21. 00:55:641 (108,110) - don't do finish on these :P intended to give some space of relax only on 1st kiai '-'
  22. 00:56:345 - if you agree with abve com[/color]ment then add k[/color]at here! ^
  23. 00:57:251 (114) - kat and 00:57:453 (115) - big kat probably are better aggre on k for both
  24. 00:58:258 - you could add some note here to follow the vocal that sounds :P hmmm will consider this
  25. 01:00:875 - from here you lose lot of consistency that you were holding great on last section, try making this again :3 sorry for that....because i was too focus on variety.....will try it later
  26. 01:05:305 (157,165) - if you're holding big notes try using K and K on both hmm... will consider this too...but D and K seem fine for now
  27. 01:06:110 - is better ok
  28. 01:08:124 (170,172) - don't use finish on these and finish with kat because last pitch is higher
  29. 01:11:748 (190) - you should use spinner instead slider here cuz slider is consider like a stream part :P
  30. 01:15:573 - i'm not totally sure what are you following on this section ;; but taking a fast look 01:16:580 (193) - this note sounds strange :c i can't afford to map a denser note in rest part
  31. 01:23:023 (204,205) - ctrl+g these ok
  32. 01:15:573 (191) - kat here nope
  33. 01:27:855 (217) - K? probably D is fine
well I'm sorry for not modding the whole map :c but I think every comments about consistency and note changes applies through the song, you could consider a remap and a total overview again :3 sorry because i still a noob mapper T_T. I think the idea is good oww ..thanks(and the song too) so I hope my suggestions are helpful for you :3. Best of luck! Thank you very much :)
- Kuncung -
24 posts
Joined June 2013
- Kuncung -
Membantu sebisanya aja
18:31 ibacot: btw yg masalah itu kiai brp di mapku ya?
18:35 - Kuncung -: sorry2 tadi boker XD
18:35 - Kuncung -: dari awal agak bermasalah si 
18:36 ibacot: ehh
18:36 - Kuncung -: gk terlalu bermasalah karna bnyak beat yg gk dikasi note
18:37 ibacot: ehh....tapi aku gk terlalu pengin rapet2
18:37 - Kuncung -: gk lah 
18:37 ibacot: hmm
18:37 - Kuncung -: 00:01:480 - contohnya disini
18:38 ibacot: ngikutin suara "ting" nya sih
18:38 - Kuncung -: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8225182
18:39 - Kuncung -:  ya aku pikir kan ini oni jadi ngasi semua gitu XD
18:39 - Kuncung -: tapi itu terserah mu ba
18:39 ibacot: tipikal taiko ama mania beda lah...taiko itu klo slow part ya harus relax
18:39 ibacot: undermapped di slow part sih enaknya
18:39 - Kuncung -: ye jgn lah , harus greget teruslah *plak
18:40 ibacot: wkkw
18:40 ibacot: taiko ngemapnya masih manusiawi
18:41 - Kuncung -: 00:44:466 - dari sini sampai 00:45:271 -  coba kasi stream ba kan ada suara techno thrill gitu
18:42 ibacot: cek dulu
18:43 ibacot: ehh gk ada kudenger
18:43 - Kuncung -: ada tipis2 .. tringtringtring *tring ndasmu
18:44 ibacot: entahlah T_T...headsetku murahan 20k gk kedengeran apa2
18:45 ibacot: sorry cung.....T_T
18:45 *- Kuncung - gk pake headset, cuman spiker butut
18:46 ibacot: lanjut dulu deh
18:46 - Kuncung -: kuy 
18:46 ibacot: fokus yg jelas2 dulu
18:47 - Kuncung -: 00:56:043 - disini dikasi ?
18:47 ibacot: ok boleh
18:47 - Kuncung -: 01:01:882 (136,137,138) - diganti jadi dkd ?
18:48 - Kuncung -: ehh ...
18:48 - Kuncung -: yg biru paan dah XD
18:48 ibacot: hmm
18:49 ibacot: biru kat
18:49 ibacot: merah don
18:49 - Kuncung -: ye bener berarti XD
18:49 - Kuncung -: 01:05:909 (158) - jadiin k ?
18:50 ibacot: ok
18:52 - Kuncung -: 01:08:325 (169) -  jadi d ?
18:52 ibacot: ok
18:52 ibacot: mau ngubah pattern klo dirasa gk enak juga gpp
18:52 ibacot: gk cuman note
18:53 - Kuncung -: tau tau 
18:55 - Kuncung -: 01:27:050 - jadiin triplet disini ?
18:56 ibacot: ehh triplet yg gimana?
18:56 - Kuncung -: ddd ?
18:57 ibacot: jadi 5-plet dong?
18:57 - Kuncung -: pentaplet XD
18:57 - Kuncung -: iye juga ye
18:57 - Kuncung -: cancel udeh
18:57 ibacot: cwkkwkw
18:58 - Kuncung -: 01:40:137 -  tambah jadi triplet ?
18:58 - Kuncung -: ehh gk gk XD
18:58 - Kuncung -: jangan jangan XD
18:59 - Kuncung -: 01:41:547 - mending kasi disini 
18:59 ibacot: ok
19:00 - Kuncung -: 01:55:439 (346,347,348) -  yg ini kek nya enakan kdk
19:01 ibacot: hmm
19:02 ibacot: ok deh...sama aja bagiku
19:02 ibacot: klo bisa kiai 2 dst dibikin makin serem :D
19:02 ibacot: terutama kiai 3/4
19:03 - Kuncung -: kuy i like it XD
19:03 ibacot: padahal kiai 3 mulai pakai pentaplet aku
19:03 ibacot: tapi rasanya kurang
19:04 ibacot: kiai 4 rasanya hambar
19:04 - Kuncung -: 02:08:829 - jadiin triplet ?
19:04 ibacot: ok
19:05 ibacot: tapi slow part sih tetep ......soalnya fase rehat mutlak ada di taiko map...beda ama mania :D
19:06 ibacot: mungkin klo bisa sih ganti diff jadi collab ....*plak
19:06 - Kuncung -: gak gak XD
19:06 - Kuncung -: aku gk membantu banyak XD
19:07 ibacot: Canda :D
19:07 - Kuncung -: duh masuk kiai3 mudeng aku style mu XD
19:08 ibacot: woh
19:08 ibacot: kiai 4 deh up drastis klo bisa
19:12 ibacot: itu pas ngemap kiai 4 udah mager aslinya...jadinya agak aneh dibanding kiai 3
19:12 - Kuncung -: 03:17:688 -  triplet ?
19:12 ibacot: berarti berikutnya juga?
19:12 ibacot: 03:18:493 -
19:13 - Kuncung -: boljug
19:14 ibacot: ehh kayaknya salah satu aja deh
19:14 ibacot: yg ke 2
19:14 - Kuncung -: jadi ganjel ye kalo semua ? XD
19:14 - Kuncung -: dah diduga si
19:14 ibacot: ya sih
19:15 ibacot: triplet 4x.... aneh aja wkkwkw
19:16 ibacot: klo yg 03:18:493 -  masih nyaman dilihat
19:16 ibacot: oh ya....katanya style ku kebanyakan d kah?
19:16 ibacot: klo ada yg bisa diubah ke k makin enak gpp
19:17 - Kuncung -: aku bingung ngubah nye XD
19:18 ibacot: wkwkkw sama...aku juga bingung...masih noob mapper sih
19:19 - Kuncung -:  04:10:741 - tmbah jadi triplet ?
19:20 - Kuncung -: triplet dari sini ?
19:20 - Kuncung -: 04:15:573 - 
19:20 - Kuncung -: lupa kopy time XD
19:20 ibacot: ehh
19:21 ibacot: 04:11:245 (453) - bagusan disitu deh
19:22 - Kuncung -: terserah
19:22 - Kuncung -: jgn terlalu diambil hati mapper noob ini
19:23 ibacot: aku juga noob -_-
19:23 - Kuncung -: 04:17:990 (486,487) - jadi kk ?
19:23 - Kuncung -: 04:18:191 (488,489) -  jadi dd ?
19:24 ibacot: yg tadi 04:11:245 (453) - triple kok
19:24 ibacot: hmm kdk bagus ^?
19:24 ibacot: ehh kdd
19:24 ibacot: 04:15:573 (476) -  yg kdk
19:25 - Kuncung -: kkd kek nya 
19:25 ibacot: kkd yg 4:11 apa 4:15?
19:28 - Kuncung -: 4:15
19:28 ibacot: yg stream panjang jadi ddkkddkdK aja deh
19:28 - Kuncung -: bah XD
19:28 - Kuncung -: ujung2nye gitu XD
19:28 ibacot: wkkwkw
19:29 ibacot: biar greget...tapi masalahnya finisher di stream gk boleh sewarna ama note sebelumnya
19:29 ibacot: dan cuman boleh di awal/akhir
19:29 - Kuncung -: duh makin bingung aku liatnya makin ujung XD
19:30 ibacot: wkkwkw
19:30 ibacot: ayo kerasin kiai 4 bagian 1/2 akhir
19:30 - Kuncung -: mgkin saran aku 04:23:224 (518,519) -  yg kek gini jadiin triplet biar keras dikit
19:31 ibacot: saranin 5-plet atau mau lagi stream panjang gitu di satu tempat boleh
19:31 ibacot: triplet2 doang kurang keras.... butuh ide '-'
19:31 - Kuncung -: HEK!
19:31 - Kuncung -: bengek
19:32 ibacot: tadi acc kok....lanjut
19:32 - Kuncung -: 04:24:231 (523,524,525,526) -  nah boleh ni pentaplet XD
19:33 - Kuncung -: 04:28:661 (548,549,550,551) - ^
19:34 - Kuncung -: cuman kek nya aku bisa bantu (sad)
19:35 ibacot: 04:28:459 (552,553,554,555,556) - 5 plet...ada ide warna?
19:35 - Kuncung -: ddkkddkk ?
19:37 ibacot: hmm.... klo d agak aneh..... kkddk aja deh

cuman bisa segitu >///<
Kith190
178 posts
Joined November 2015
Kith190
Hi NM as asked here

[Onyx]
00:05:708 - change to k, this sound is a high tone
00:08:929 - same ^
00:11:144 (17,18) - these are lower than this one 00:10:540 - but decide if it is better to leave them like this or to place dd
00:39:936 - d is right for he sound, but I would place k
00:53:023 - k
00:55:238 - k would be better to play
00:59:466 - same as 00:53:023 -
01:01:278 - same reason, k
01:27:654 (215,216) - Even tho the sound is right I would place k in one of these 2
02:21:010 (482,483,484,485) - I would suggest 4 k
02:27:251 - k , the sound is the same as 02:26:647 -
03:47:990 (389,390) - k to both, to continue with the same flow
04:06:916 - k
04:12:956 - k
04:42:755 - k

Hope this was helpful!! Good luck for ranking!!
ibacot
142 posts
Joined October 2014
Topic Starter
ibacot

Kith190 wrote:

Hi NM as asked here

[Onyx]
00:05:708 - change to k, this sound is a high tone ok
00:08:929 - same ^ ok
00:11:144 (17,18) - these are lower than this one 00:10:540 - but decide if it is better to leave them like this or to place dd k k is fine there
00:39:936 - d is right for he sound, but I would place k ok
00:53:023 - k ok
00:55:238 - k would be better to play ok
00:59:466 - same as 00:53:023 - ok
01:01:278 - same reason, k ok
01:27:654 (215,216) - Even tho the sound is right I would place k in one of these 2 nope for this... dd d D is better there as i see
02:21:010 (482,483,484,485) - I would suggest 4 k hmm... just change to ddk..... keep d d d there
02:27:251 - k , the sound is the same as 02:26:647 - ok
03:47:990 (389,390) - k to both, to continue with the same flow ok
04:06:916 - k ok
04:12:956 - k ok
04:42:755 - k ok

Hope this was helpful!! Good luck for ranking!!thank you for the mod :)
Tyistiana
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541 posts
Joined February 2012
Tyistiana
Hello ibacot, just interested on your map!
Please note that this is only my "suggestion" so, feel free to deny it if you don't agree with.
Hope this will be useful.
Let's go! ;)

[General]
Looks great!

[Onyx]
00:17:587 - Maybe it'll be fit to d , no piano here and this vocal have a low voice.
00:17:788 - How about add k here? , To emphasize the piano sound here.
00:36:110 (13,14) - Change to kd , Maybe it's fitter.
00:39:131 - Change to k , Maybe it's fitter.
00:49:802 - Change to k
01:00:271 (129,130) - Change to dk
01:01:278 - Change to d , This sounds isn't strong enough to use k.
01:01:480 - Change to k , To emphasize the vocal voice.
01:04:701 - Add d , The vocal starts here, maybe to ignore this will made a player confuse to the rhythm of this music
01:10:137 - How about k? , To make a difference between 01:09:936 (178,179) because 01:10:137 have a vocal while 01:09:936 (178,179) is not have.
01:11:043 - How about change to d? , I find it's fitter.
01:11:748 - How about spinner here instead of sliders? It's too long to use slider.
01:44:365 (295,296,297) - How about changing these notes to a big note? maybe it will make an inner to the player.
01:45:775 (299,300,301) - ^ same reason
01:46:178 (301,302) - Change to KD to match the pattern you have place like 02:56:647 (108,109,110,111)
02:02:587 moves to 02:02:788 - To match the pattern you have place before like 00:51:815
02:08:124 -Change to k here? Too much d that are continuous in this part. And maybe it'll be fitter
02:08:728 - Add d , Same reason that I suggest in 01:04:701
02:10:741 - Add d , ^
02:12:352 - Add d , ^
02:12:453 - Change to k , This sound is high
02:15:573 - Add k , Same reason that I suggest in 01:04:701
02:20:003 - Change to d , This sound not high enough.
02:23:023 moves the start to 02:22:822 , This place should be the place to start the spinner.
02:28:560 - Change to k , I find it's fitter.
02:55:238 (104,105,106) - How about changing these notes to a big note? maybe it will make an inner to the player.
02:56:647 (108,109,110) - ^
03:06:211 / 03:06:412 / 03:06:614 / 03:06:815 - How about add d here? , I find this fitter and player can enjoy it. (I guess. XD)
03:20:003 - Add d , Same reason that I suggest in 01:04:701
03:21:916 / 03:22:177 - Delete , To match 02:10:741
In case you follow my upper suggestion , add d in 03:21:714 , this pattern I've notice in before in 02:10:741.
03:46:580 (381,382,383,384,385) - Change to kkddk , It'll be fitter.
03:47:084 (386,387,388,389,390) - Change to ddkdk , ^
03:48:090 - Add d , Base on bass sound.
03:48:493 / 03:48:694 - Add d , Base om bass sound
03:51:010 - Add k , Bass sound here.
04:08:325 (447,448) - Change to k , This sound is high enough.
04:08:829 - Delete , To match the pattern you place before like 00:48:996 (70,71)
04:20:808 - Change to k , I guess the voice is high enough. And to preventing too much d on that position.
04:32:084 - Change to k , ^
04:33:694 - Change to k , ^
04:36:134 (614,615) - Change to kd , I find it's fitter.
04:44:365 - How about spinner here instead of sliders? It's too long to use slider.
05:00:875 - Change to d , This is not strong enough to use k
05:01:278 - Change to k , Strong enough to use k here.

Will wait this map for ranked, Good luck!!
ibacot
142 posts
Joined October 2014
Topic Starter
ibacot

Tyistiana wrote:

Hello ibacot, just interested on your map! wow thanks
Please note that this is only my "suggestion" so, feel free to deny it if you don't agree with. no problem... i welcome any modder '-')
Hope this will be useful.
Let's go! ;)

[General]
Looks great! Ok.... hope i got the right metadata

[Onyx]
00:17:587 - Maybe it'll be fit to d , no piano here and this vocal have a low voice. agree
00:17:788 - How about add k here? , To emphasize the piano sound here. hmm... not disagree but that seem not right for myself ...sorry -_-
00:36:110 (13,14) - Change to kd , Maybe it's fitter.nice
00:39:131 - Change to k , Maybe it's fitter. altough d is fine but k is fine too....changed
00:49:802 - Change to k ok
01:00:271 (129,130) - Change to dk ok
01:01:278 - Change to d , This sounds isn't strong enough to use k. hmm...ok np
01:01:480 - Change to k , To emphasize the vocal voice. ok
01:04:701 - Add d , The vocal starts here, maybe to ignore this will made a player confuse to the rhythm of this music ok... i think ddk or dk there is just variety
01:10:137 - How about k? , To make a difference between 01:09:936 (178,179) because 01:10:137 have a vocal while 01:09:936 (178,179) is not have. hmm... the sound is same in those triplet...so ddd is better
01:11:043 - How about change to d? , I find it's fitter. nice
01:11:748 - How about spinner here instead of sliders? It's too long to use slider. the truth is i hate spinner...because the rythymn is not exactly same in auto than using slider...depend on OD i think
01:44:365 (295,296,297) - How about changing these notes to a big note? maybe it will make an inner to the player. i'd loved too but those experienced mapper will say it "abusing finisher -_-"... already have that idea in my other map but mostly rejected
01:45:775 (299,300,301) - ^ same reason ^ same -_-
01:46:178 (301,302) - Change to KD to match the pattern you have place like 02:56:647 (108,109,110,111) i just realized that the pattern is different :D...i rarely copy-paste any pattern tbh '-')
02:02:587 moves to 02:02:788 - To match the pattern you have place before like 00:51:815 ok... truth is that was the pattern before modding came
02:08:124 -Change to k here? Too much d that are continuous in this part. And maybe it'll be fitter ok....np there
02:08:728 - Add d , Same reason that I suggest in 01:04:701 ^,^
02:10:741 - Add d , ^ ok....np
02:12:352 - Add d , ^ ok....np
02:12:453 - Change to k , This sound is high ok....np
02:15:573 - Add k , Same reason that I suggest in 01:04:701 ok....np
02:20:003 - Change to d , This sound not high enough. hmm...ok
02:23:023 moves the start to 02:22:822 , This place should be the place to start the spinner. hoo...nice
02:28:560 - Change to k , I find it's fitter.ok....good
02:55:238 (104,105,106) - How about changing these notes to a big note? maybe it will make an inner to the player. ^ same reason before -_-
02:56:647 (108,109,110) - ^ ^^
03:06:211 / 03:06:412 / 03:06:614 / 03:06:815 - How about add d here? , I find this fitter and player can enjoy it. (I guess. XD) Hooho.... that awesome.... added d on last 3 timing point....
03:20:003 - Add d , Same reason that I suggest in 01:04:701 ^ ^
03:21:916 / 03:22:177 - Delete , To match 02:10:741 nope...from kiai 3 onward the pattern will improved with 5-note
In case you follow my upper suggestion , add d in 03:21:714 , this pattern I've notice in before in 02:10:741.
03:46:580 (381,382,383,384,385) - Change to kkddk , It'll be fitter. wow... i'm speechless ....superb
03:47:084 (386,387,388,389,390) - Change to ddkdk , ^^^
03:48:090 - Add d , Base on bass sound. awesome...nice 4* SR
03:48:493 / 03:48:694 - Add d , Base om bass sound hmm..after thinking.... changed to d k K there....also re-adjust the sv there so it look more smooth
03:51:010 - Add k , Bass sound here. ok
04:08:325 (447,448) - Change to k , This sound is high enough. ok
04:08:829 - Delete , To match the pattern you place before like 00:48:996 (70,71)i need to improved the pattern in kiai 4 by using denser triplet and more stream :D
04:20:808 - Change to k , I guess the voice is high enough. And to preventing too much d on that position. ok
04:32:084 - Change to k , ^ ok
04:33:694 - Change to k , ^ ok
04:36:134 (614,615) - Change to kd , I find it's fitter. ok...nice
04:44:365 - How about spinner here instead of sliders? It's too long to use slider. ^^ same before
05:00:875 - Change to d , This is not strong enough to use k ok... np
05:01:278 - Change to k , Strong enough to use k here. ok... nice

Will wait this map for ranked, Good luck!! thank you very much.... i hope so :oops:
Surono
7,195 posts
Joined November 2013
Surono
bg related with song, metadata is oke, timing is oke and is it map solid?

dont kudosu

00:00:876 - ubah volume redlines ke 40% biar ga bentrok dengan green linesnya.

00:26:245 - lupa finisher
03:50:406 - bisa di finish buat penekanan high impact pitchnya
03:50:808 - add note, suara noticeable

00:51:614 - 01:04:500 - setiap struktur x xxx ubah jadi xx xx dan terapkan ke part yang sama 02:02:486 - 02:15:372 - 03:13:359 - 03:26:245 - (khusus yang ini, dari 03:26:043 - ubah jadi kddk dk) 04:37:117 - dan yalah, tergantung situ maunya gimana.. kalau mau konsisten dengan penekanan si vokal. mending buat jadi 5plet kalau sengaja pengen ngeneken vokalnya juga dari pada dibuat xx xx tapi kalau menurutku lebih represent ke pengiring musik dulu.. jadi ya bagus juga buat variasi pola kalau diterapin xx xx

penggunaan finishers masih bisa di improve lagi di beberapa kiai agar konsisten, 00:57:654 (116,118) - dari ini buat 02:08:527 - 03:19:399 - 04:30:271 - daerah sini, teliti dan konsistenin. kaget aja 02:08:527 -tiba2 disini strim bukannya jadi finisher dibeberapa tempat.

dan sv masih berantakan di beberapa tempat, terutama incresing Svs. kalau struktur dibeberapa kiai kliatan agak random dikit.. variasi itu boleh tapi kekonsistenan kudu dijaga.

01:43:761 - kasih sv 1.05x biar rapi naik svnya
01:51:413 - unsnap sv, 01:51:412 - snap here
03:03:091 - unsnap sv lagi, 03:03:090 -

buat mastiin, cari moder yang handal experience dalam perbaikan SVs dan yang bisa ngecheck struktur map.
ibacot
142 posts
Joined October 2014
Topic Starter
ibacot

Surono wrote:

bg related with song, metadata is oke, timing is oke and is it map solid?

dont kudosu

00:00:876 - ubah volume redlines ke 40% biar ga bentrok dengan green linesnya. ehh ya beda wkwk

00:26:245 - lupa finisher hmm.... part 00:25:037 (62,63,64,65) - jadi D D K k baru spinner
03:50:406 - bisa di finish buat penekanan high impact pitchnya ok
03:50:808 - add note, suara noticeable ok

00:51:614 - 01:04:500 - setiap struktur x xxx ubah jadi xx xx dan terapkan ke part yang sama 02:02:486 - 02:15:372 - 03:13:359 - 03:26:245 - (khusus yang ini, dari 03:26:043 - ubah jadi kddk dk) 04:37:117 - dan yalah, tergantung situ maunya gimana.. kalau mau konsisten dengan penekanan si vokal. mending buat jadi 5plet kalau sengaja pengen ngeneken vokalnya juga dari pada dibuat xx xx tapi kalau menurutku lebih represent ke pengiring musik dulu.. jadi ya bagus juga buat variasi pola kalau diterapin xx xx fixed semua kecuali yg 03:26:043 - lebih enak kdkd dk deh...... xx xx seru juga dilihat

penggunaan finishers masih bisa di improve lagi di beberapa kiai agar konsisten, 00:57:654 (116,118) - dari ini buat 02:08:527 - 03:19:399 - 04:30:271 - daerah sini, teliti dan konsistenin. kaget aja 02:08:527 -tiba2 disini strim bukannya jadi finisher dibeberapa tempat. baru nyadar wkwkkw.... ok fixed all

dan sv masih berantakan di beberapa tempat, terutama incresing Svs. kalau struktur dibeberapa kiai kliatan agak random dikit.. variasi itu boleh tapi kekonsistenan kudu dijaga. susahnya atur sv T_T

01:43:761 - kasih sv 1.05x biar rapi naik svnya ok
01:51:413 - unsnap sv, 01:51:412 - snap here ok... gk nyadar
03:03:091 - unsnap sv lagi, 03:03:090 - ok..gk nyadar lagi

buat mastiin, cari moder yang handal experience dalam perbaikan SVs dan yang bisa ngecheck struktur map sv sih tergantung taste masing2...tapi moga2 ada yg mau ngajarin biar sv nya mulus >,<)\.
Surono
7,195 posts
Joined November 2013
Surono

ibacot wrote:

Surono wrote:

00:26:245 - lupa finisher hmm.... part 00:25:037 (62,63,64,65) - jadi D D K k baru spinner >:C asw kan itu nada tinggi semua, tiba2 alesan buat neken ke spinner wat tje fuk

00:51:614 - 01:04:500 - setiap struktur x xxx ubah jadi xx xx dan terapkan ke part yang sama 02:02:486 - 02:15:372 - 03:13:359 - 03:26:245 - (khusus yang ini, dari 03:26:043 - ubah jadi kddk dk) 04:37:117 - dan yalah, tergantung situ maunya gimana.. kalau mau konsisten dengan penekanan si vokal. mending buat jadi 5plet kalau sengaja pengen ngeneken vokalnya juga dari pada dibuat xx xx tapi kalau menurutku lebih represent ke pengiring musik dulu.. jadi ya bagus juga buat variasi pola kalau diterapin xx xx fixed semua kecuali yg 03:26:043 - lebih enak kdkd dk deh...... xx xx seru juga dilihat gw nuklerr map lu >:C cacadas kdkd,.. padhal kddk neken suara snare drumnya.. dasr bkn nax ritim :"C jk LMAO HAHAHA
haha canda koq mz man bro, gl.
kalau pengen di nukler sini poke saia :-8

in serious:
semua udah fine? timing, bg related, metadata, atau apalah (kalau "apalah" mah dah di aku ne wwwww) dah oke? kalau belum coba cari konfirmasi buat itu itunya. ga expect juga aku kasih ikon bintang tapi apa boleh buat, tapi lebih berharap untuk cari lebih banyak lagi.. bukan brati mapmu siap buat di push forward, cuman pengennya lebih ke polished more sama orang-orang jadi akunya yakin buat bantu situ. weh weh gl buat skarng
ibacot
142 posts
Joined October 2014
Topic Starter
ibacot

Surono wrote:

in serious:
semua udah fine? timing, bg related, metadata, atau apalah (kalau "apalah" mah dah di aku ne wwwww) dah oke? kalau belum coba cari konfirmasi buat itu itunya. ga expect juga aku kasih ikon bintang tapi apa boleh buat, tapi lebih berharap untuk cari lebih banyak lagi.. bukan brati mapmu siap buat di push forward, cuman pengennya lebih ke polished more sama orang-orang jadi akunya yakin buat bantu situ. weh weh gl buat skarng makasih deh...sorry bikin emosi kucoba cari modder biar improve lagi
Edit tambahan :

  • 00:25:037 (62,63,64,65) - emang lebih enak gitu kecuali spinner mundur baru bisa nambah finisher pas diposisi spinner awal sekarang....tapi entar tambah aneh..galau deh
    03:26:043 - fixed kdkk dk .......gini aja dah soalnya kddk berasa aneh aja
    02:52:419 (92) - added d
    02:54:030 (100) - added d
yuzu__rinrin
943 posts
Joined July 2014
yuzu__rinrin
hi from my queue.

thanks M4M~

[Oni]
  1. 00:00:876 (1) - remove finish
  2. 00:04:097 (6) - ^
  3. 00:07:318 (11) - ^
  4. 00:10:540 (16) - ^

    There is no need to make a big note.
    It is different from other places and it is better to remove it as it is an quiet melody line.

  5. 00:50:607 (79,80) - ctrl+g
  6. 00:51:110 (81,82) - kk

    Because it was opposite color with 00:46:278 (54,55) - and 00:47:889 (63,64) - .
    I think that it is possible to set the opposite color also for consistency here.
    I thought about the flow and this resulted.

  7. 00:59:969 - add k
    You should hear Drum snare.

  8. 01:01:379 - add d
    back sound follow

  9. 01:04:298 (151) - change k
    Why do not you pick up the vocal accent here?

  10. 01:06:412 - add k
    You should hear Drum snare.

  11. 01:41:849 - add d
    vocal follow.
    and for consistency. 01:48:191 (310,311,312) -

  12. 01:59:063 (369) - change k
    vocal follow.
    It is certainly low, but I think it is possible to take an accent with k.

  13. 02:04:399 - add k
    You should hear Drum snare.

  14. 02:04:701 (400) - change d
    I think the vocal of the next note is quite high, so in order to complement it.

  15. 02:06:312 (409) - change k
    Vocal is taken a little higher.
    And you can avoid the same color as next note.

  16. 02:18:090 - add d
    vocal follow.
If it is helpful for something. good map ><

good luck~ :)
ibacot
142 posts
Joined October 2014
Topic Starter
ibacot

yuzu__rinrin wrote:

hi from my queue.

thanks M4M~

[Oni]
  1. 00:00:876 (1) - remove finish
  2. 00:04:097 (6) - ^
  3. 00:07:318 (11) - ^
  4. 00:10:540 (16) - ^

    There is no need to make a big note.
    It is different from other places and it is better to remove it as it is an quiet melody line.

  5. 00:50:607 (79,80) - ctrl+g
  6. 00:51:110 (81,82) - kk

    Because it was opposite color with 00:46:278 (54,55) - and 00:47:889 (63,64) - .
    I think that it is possible to set the opposite color also for consistency here.
    I thought about the flow and this resulted.

  7. 00:59:969 - add k
    You should hear Drum snare.

  8. 01:01:379 - add d
    back sound follow

  9. 01:04:298 (151) - change k
    Why do not you pick up the vocal accent here?

  10. 01:06:412 - add k
    You should hear Drum snare.

  11. 01:41:849 - add d
    vocal follow.
    and for consistency. 01:48:191 (310,311,312) -

  12. 01:59:063 (369) - change k
    vocal follow.
    It is certainly low, but I think it is possible to take an accent with k.

  13. 02:04:399 - add k
    You should hear Drum snare.

  14. 02:04:701 (400) - change d
    I think the vocal of the next note is quite high, so in order to complement it.

  15. 02:06:312 (409) - change k
    Vocal is taken a little higher.
    And you can avoid the same color as next note.

  16. 02:18:090 - add d
    vocal follow.
If it is helpful for something. good map ><

good luck~ :)
Thanks a lot for the mod yuzu__rinrin, that really helpful... all are accepted except the finisher in the beginning... i purposely use it for empasize the intro
Surono
7,195 posts
Joined November 2013
Surono
melalui 2jam modding dan sedikit ngementor
20:42 ibacot: Permisi malam Surono.... boleh minta bantuan timing gk untuk bpm melambat ?
20:43 Surono: .. ga sempet, kalau yang jago akurat coba minta ke Skylish.
20:43 ibacot: ok deh...maaf mengganggu
20:44 Surono: ndak masalah
20:44 Surono: gimana mapmu
20:44 Surono: yang aku star itu
20:45 ibacot: ehh yg kotoko kah?....yg itu ada mod sih setelah dicek cuman 1 tapi T_T
20:45 ibacot: aku udah gk tau gimana diimprove...sisanya tergantung BN doang
20:45 Surono: BNnya malas
20:45 Surono: eks de wkwkw
20:46 ibacot: lha mappernya aja noob gini
20:46 ibacot: gimana bisa improve
20:46 Surono: yah apa yg dibuat orang, ya harus di tanggung orangnya. sebisa mungkin
20:46 Surono: yah oke ada batas kwkw, oke ta mainin lagi.
20:46 *Surono is playing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1269139 KOTOKO x ALTIMA - PLASMIC FIRE [Onyx]] <Taiko> +Nightcore
20:49 ibacot: susah sih cari mod map approval....pada demen tv size semua
20:54 Surono: 01:11:748 -  1.05x
20:55 ibacot: ke editor dulu
20:55 ibacot: otw
20:56 ibacot: 01:14:365 -  juga dong
20:56 ibacot: 1.05x kan satu slider
20:56 Surono: ya
20:56 ibacot: ok dah
20:57 Surono: 00:47:587 - 00:49:198 - 00:54:030 - 01:00:473 - 01:02:084 - finisher karena mereka tu cymbal
20:58 Surono: 01:01:983 - apus, 01:01:882 - kat
20:58 ibacot: k jadi D ?
20:58 Surono: ha
20:58 Surono: terserah
20:59 ibacot: coba dulu
20:59 Surono: ,.
20:59 Surono: heh..
20:59 ibacot: yg 01:01 setuju semua
21:00 Surono: ,.
21:00 Surono: jadi maunya gimana
21:01 ibacot: mantab juga dilihat
21:02 Surono: 01:46:983 - 01:47:184 - ini mau di finisher gak?
21:02 ibacot: ok setuju...yg kiai 2,3,4 juga diubah?
21:02 Surono: gini.. kalau mau ga ngerusak mood orang, sebisa mungkin reasonable dengan apa yg kamu buat.. ga kek orang bingung tapi tetep aja kek nolak
21:02 Surono: ngingetin mapper jepang kbykn..
21:02 Surono: kalau mreka seenaknya, kudu di bilangin berkali2 baru setuju....
21:03 Surono: :C
21:03 ibacot: setuju kok T_T
21:03 ibacot: aku salah nulis kah T_T
21:04 Surono: mungkin..
21:05 ibacot: bagus sih di finisher....tapi svnya jadi jelek...atur dikit biar enak dilihat
21:05 ibacot: 01:46:983 -
21:06 ibacot: enaknya brp x sv
21:06 Surono: .,
21:06 Surono: wew
21:06 Surono: kalau mau buat sv. buat yang rapi.. ga asal ngenintensifies turun naiknya kekuatan suara..
21:07 Surono: turun persatu2
21:07 ibacot: ok kucoba
21:07 ibacot: makin seru nih
21:08 Surono: ya
21:09 Surono: 01:58:057 - k, 01:59:667 - k k D 1/2 oh ya jgn lupa finisher sebelumnya terapin di kiai" lainnya
21:09 Surono: 02:00:372 - puter jadi dk
21:10 ibacot: siap '-')\
21:10 Surono: 02:07:218 - apus.. di kiai 1 aja ga ada ini
21:11 Surono: 02:10:339 - vokal kuat jadi k, 02:11:647 - puter jadi dk biar ga monoton
21:11 ibacot: ok
21:11 Surono: 02:20:204 - d aja.. dkk ngagetin
21:11 Surono: 02:21:412 - K
21:12 ibacot: yg 02:20:204 (485) -  jadi dkd berarti ya
21:13 ibacot: ok dah semua
21:14 Surono: 02:51:614 - copot finishnya... sbnernya suka yg beginian akunya tapi kalau buat lagu macem gini, yg ada bnyk orang yg ga suka kwkkw. ntar ta poin2 yg beginian
21:14 Surono: skarang manut dulu aja, biar gampang prosesnya..
21:14 ibacot: ok
21:15 Surono: 02:57:251 - notes ke kanan.. svnya di atur kek sebelumnya.. sama soal finish disini
21:16 Surono: 03:06:312 - ini bener longstream ddkddk? kalau aku dengernya ddk d k, earpong lagi maslah jadi ga begitu tau suara benernya kwkw
21:16 Surono: *ddkdddk
21:16 ibacot: ehh..yg 02:57:251 (113) -  kekanan maksudnya gimana?....gk paham T_T
21:17 Surono: notes ke kanan.. aku cuman bilang dari situ
21:17 Surono: ga suruh apa2
21:17 Surono: ibaratnya.. buah yg itu,  aku cuman nunjuk2
21:17 ibacot: oww
21:17 Surono: hadhe
21:18 ibacot: 03:06:110 - 03:06:916 -  sih stream klo kudenger
21:18 ibacot: jauh lebih panjang dari yg kumap
21:18 Surono: anggep aja overmap xp karna taiko bukan kek mania dalam hal mapping
21:19 Surono: kalau di mania, suara yg ga jelas begitu kuatnya.. bakal jadi bahan disqualifikasi kwkw
21:19 ibacot: gk didenger stream kok
21:19 Surono: ?
21:19 ibacot: *gk...didenger stream kok jelas
21:20 Surono: (y)
21:20 Surono: 03:14:063 - apus, 03:14:164 - D
21:20 Surono: 03:15:674 - struktur kacaw wwwww
21:20 Surono: pindah ke tengah.. 03:15:775 - finish
21:21 ibacot: 03:15:775 (215) -  diapus ya
21:22 Surono: 03:32:285 - 03:32:688 - finish, sumpah.. kiai ke 3 kudu diterapin finisher yg dibagian akhir2 pola.. sama 3pletnya rapiin
21:22 ibacot: ehh salah copas
21:22 ibacot: 03:15:674 - ralat
21:22 Surono: skarang jarang banget liat map yg base patternnya terus diujung ada stream
21:22 Surono: itu gaya ngemap aku pas newbie malah wkwkw
21:23 ibacot: lah aku noob berarti T_T
21:23 Surono: justru pas newbie dulu ngemap, itu pola aja aku ga suka banget.. bnyk orang yg bilang jelek
21:23 Surono: :"D kecuali kalau ada lagu yg gitu suaranya.. ngemap mah ngikut lagu, kalau ngemap macem lagu2 gini ya pake style
21:24 Surono: 03:36:714 - ~
21:25 ibacot: ehh ada apa disitu?
21:25 Surono: copot
21:25 Surono: masa ga tau maksudku.... finisher di stream orang ga pada suka, terutama player2 jepang.
21:26 Surono: bayangin kalau ini map ke rank pake finisher di stream2.. yg ada voting ratenya jelek, di anggep bad mapper yg ada kwkwkww
21:28 Surono: bayangin kalau ini map ke rank pake finisher di stream2.. yg ada voting ratenya jelek, di anggep bad mapper yg ada kwkwkww
21:28 Surono: haduh dc
21:29 ibacot: ok maaf2
21:29 Surono: 03:37:419 - tambah d buat ikut suara gitar juga, 03:40:238 - k terus 03:40:339 - pindah ke 03:40:540 - sini buat ikut suara yg penting
21:30 Surono: eh kalau 03:40:339 - ini di add aja.. ada suara beatnya. jadi 03:40:238 - dari sini jadi 2plet
21:30 Surono: 03:43:157 - remove finish
21:30 Surono: 03:43:862 - d buat ikut gitar, undermapped haunting~~~
21:31 ibacot: ok
21:32 Surono: 03:50:808 - 03:51:010 - tuker, 03:51:211 - apus terus 03:51:345 - buat kkkddd 1/3
21:33 Surono: 04:05:708 - apus, terus kiai 3 dibenah2.. pokoknya stream2nya rapiin.. setiap point yg diawal tadi tentang finisher di terapin biar konsisten. oke ta tunggu, bilang kalau dah update ntar aku coba lagi
21:33 Surono: 04:05:708 - *remove finishnya maksudku
21:33 ibacot: ok....sabar ya...masih di apply satu2
21:46 ibacot: yg 03:51:211 -  gk perlu diapus deh sebelum stream 1/3 tadi....jadi hampa kayaknya....disambung rasanya gk overmap kok
21:47 Surono: ya
21:47 Surono: tapi kadang dibagian situ ga terlalu ngikut misal di 03:50:003 - 
21:48 Surono: disitu add sekalian aja
21:48 Surono: k
21:49 ibacot: ok
21:50 ibacot: ok upload proses...moga2 dah sesuai yg dimaksud
21:50 *Surono is playing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1269139 KOTOKO x ALTIMA - PLASMIC FIRE [Onyx]] <Taiko>
21:54 Surono: 1/6 wew
21:56 ibacot: ehh salah ya?
21:56 ibacot: btw kalau finisher ilang2 tadi sv jadi kacau gitu
21:56 Surono: coba jelasin dengan logikanya
21:57 ibacot: hmm....entahlah
21:57 Surono: menurutku bentuk notes ke sv ga berdampak
21:57 Surono: namanya sv itu main angka, ngitung.
21:57 ibacot: tapi dilihat jadi aneh svnya
21:57 Surono: matematika
21:57 ibacot: coba edit dikit lagi
21:58 ibacot: btw bagian yg di fix tadi udah bener?
21:58 Surono: ntar
21:59 Surono: 01:46:681 - svnya kebalik ya ampun..
22:00 Surono: 01:46:983 - normalnya disini lah
22:00 ibacot: nah...pantesan kok aneh liatnya
22:00 Surono: kwkkw
22:00 Surono: 01:48:795 - finish
22:01 ibacot: ok
22:01 Surono: 02:11:949 (441,442,443,444,445,446,447) - terlalu bnyk d, 02:11:949 - jadiin kat biar mendingan
22:03 ibacot: ok
22:03 Surono: 02:51:614 - ini sv pindah ke 02:51:714 - sini, biar ga aneh liat 1 notes yg nyambung ke stream
22:04 ibacot: nah disitu2 yg jadi aneh kalau finisher ilang...harus di fix yg sejenis
22:04 ibacot: fix ke note berikutnya
22:04 Surono: (y)
22:04 ibacot: biar gk aneh
22:05 Surono: 03:08:829 - k, kiai ke 3 malah 1/2 doang kwkw
22:05 ibacot: ok
22:05 Surono: 03:15:271 - d
22:05 Surono: 03:17:386 - finish, 03:17:587 - delete
22:06 Surono: 03:20:003 - dlt.. kiai ke 3 malah jadi dense gini kwkwkw
22:07 ibacot: hmm...kayaknya biasa lihat map taiko makin lama makin rumit wkwkw
22:07 Surono: tapi ya jangan serumitnya naruh notes
22:07 Surono: ntar gaje, kualitas map rusak :p
22:07 ibacot: ok......cuman padet 1/2 kok
22:08 Surono: nah nemu nih.. 03:20:808 - dari sini strukturnya rusak.. tiba2 ada 5plet tapi di kiai trakhir mulai ga rapi..
22:08 Surono: kiai 3 bnyk 5plet, di kiai trakhir malah ga tau mau gimanain wkkw
22:09 ibacot: oww
22:09 Surono: gini, kiai 3 ke dirapiin kek kiai 1 2.. dah bagus tuh kiai 1 2 tapi liat kiai 3 sama 4 masih kurang puas 
22:10 ibacot: ok siap
22:10 Surono: kiai 4, dirapiin terus dipertengahan kiainya tu kan loop partnya, di buat increasing style.. yg sebelum2nya 3plet jadi 5plet.. tapi struktur masih sama kek kiai sebelum2nya
22:10 ibacot: lanjutkan bimbingannya ...ane noob T_T
22:10 Surono: kwkwkw
22:10 Surono: aihh.. dulu jaman newbie aja diriku ga ada yg bimbing wkw
22:11 Surono: asal improve dan cari tau sendiri, malahan orang2 ga tau gimana idealis pandangan mappingku. sbnernya ga mau kasih tau orang2 takut mreka jadi lebih jago :^)
22:11 ibacot: ya belajar ngemap taiko gini juga coba2 sih
22:12 ibacot: pdahal mainin aja kagak kuat
22:12 ibacot: skill masih muzu T_T
22:12 Surono: eh ntar di pertengahan kiai ke 4, kalau mau buat increaasing ya rapiin kek kiai sblumnya.. tambahan cuman mungkin di 02:01:379 - misalnya kalau di kiai ke 4 pertengahan
22:16 Surono: a te
22:17 Surono: oke ini aja buat skarang, hampir 2jam wkkwkw
22:17 ibacot: ehh ya
22:17 ibacot: wkwkwk
22:17 ibacot: btw tadi sempat dc ya
22:17 ibacot: *lagi
22:17 Surono: iya
22:19 ibacot: aku repair sv2 dulu ini deh
22:19 Surono: dah aku post dulu, buat tanda effort ke map ini. haduh wkwkw mau gimana lagi, jadi BN sih pilihan, ngementor orang atau hanya menerima permintaan
22:20 ibacot: moga bantuannya jadi amal baik
22:20 Surono: WKWKKW amal :"D
Nyan
1,455 posts
Joined September 2008
Nyan
[General]

AImod ok
BG 1280 768 ok
Difficulty ok

[Onyx]

00:26:245 (65) - add Finish
00:44:164 (44,45,46) - ddd
01:11:748 (192) - ends at 01:14:567 and add a don on 01:14:969 with 0.80x timing point
01:43:157 (292,293,294,295) - dd dd
01:43:963 (297,298,299,300,301) - add Finish
02:54:030 (100,101,102,103) - dd dd
02:54:835 (105,106,107,108,109) - add Finish
02:59:164 - add a don
03:33:493 (317,318,319,320) - add Finish
04:17:386 (505) - remove Finish (like 04:43:157 (656) )
05:00:473 (730) - add Finish
05:06:110 (751) - remove Finish
Remus
452 posts
Joined July 2015
Remus
Hello from queue.
I can lose some similar moments, so if you don't mind, i will not try to notice same things like 4-5 times. (if i will even find them after so much mods, lol)

[Onyx]
  1. 00:36:110 (13,14) - suggestion for improving consistancy and overall rhythmics : ctrl+g these two, because 00:33:090 (1,14,15,16) - are similar and better to map them similar, also starts new vocal part (sounds good, when all vocal(which is in one tonality during end of this pattern i mention) mapped similar) + emphasizing on 00:36:110 (13,14) - dk here is better, than kd and k k k because of that individual sounding here.
  2. 00:43:862 - i guess double here suits, but it's on your choice : it will make this part with higher density, but if it will be dk, then easier to jump for dkd due to similar beginnings of this structures( i mean dk and dkd)
  3. 01:31:882 (236,237) - deleted that and tried to listen with 25%. See no diference between them. Why did you do exactly d k? :o 01:29:063 (222) - here i can hear and see the reason, but here i can't.
  4. 01:36:714 (261,264,266,271) - all beats looks like kats, but one 01:38:325 (266) - is don. Is it for following vocal? I mean, better to emphasize vocal changing rather than follow it by same notes.
  5. 01:46:782 - you can think about putting here kat for vocal emphasizing.
  6. 02:45:775 (63,64,67,68) - similar, what's about 02:45:775 (63,64) - ctrl+g to follow you rhythmics here.
  7. 04:26:446 (560,561,562) - do not emphasize only volume of vocal by those kats. There should be another way of emphasizing here, imo.
  8. Oh, rest is fine to me, i guess.
Some suggestion, not completely mod D:
Anyway, good luck with this one!
ibacot
142 posts
Joined October 2014
Topic Starter
ibacot
Thank you for the mod Nyan and Remus

Nyan wrote:

[General]

AImod ok
BG 1280 768 ok
Difficulty ok

[Onyx]

00:26:245 (65) - add Finish ok after re-considering 00:25:037 (62,63,64,65) - become D D K D
00:44:164 (44,45,46) - ddd ddd is fine too but dkd better imo
01:11:748 (192) - ends at 01:14:567 and add a don on 01:14:969 with 0.80x timing point not disagree but that will be to close .. i mean from 1,1x -> 0,8x, need more than 1/1 space to look more natural...btw i change it to 0,85x to look more nice '-'
01:43:157 (292,293,294,295) - dd dd not quite agree if dd dd.....well d dd there is okay but prefer d ddd
01:43:963 (297,298,299,300,301) - add Finish ok....and after reconsidering the finish in that section will totally changed
02:54:030 (100,101,102,103) - dd dd ^^
02:54:835 (105,106,107,108,109) - add Finish ^^
02:59:164 - add a don ok
03:33:493 (317,318,319,320) - add Finish nope for this one... that part has dense rythm and i don't see any way to add finisher there
04:17:386 (505) - remove Finish (like 04:43:157 (656) ) nope...to empasize "one MORE"
05:00:473 (730) - add Finish ok..agree
05:06:110 (751) - remove Finish disagree...05:06:916 - use K to complete finisher pattern before and i don't use that in 05:08:325 - because the vocal get weaker in tone

Remus wrote:

Hello from queue.
I can lose some similar moments, so if you don't mind, i will not try to notice same things like 4-5 times. (if i will even find them after so much mods, lol)

[Onyx]
  1. 00:36:110 (13,14) - suggestion for improving consistancy and overall rhythmics : ctrl+g these two, because 00:33:090 (1,14,15,16) - are similar and better to map them similar, also starts new vocal part (sounds good, when all vocal(which is in one tonality during end of this pattern i mention) mapped similar) + emphasizing on 00:36:110 (13,14) - dk here is better, than kd and k k k because of that individual sounding here. ok...totally agree
  2. 00:43:862 - i guess double here suits, but it's on your choice : it will make this part with higher density, but if it will be dk, then easier to jump for dkd due to similar beginnings of this structures( i mean dk and dkd) ok... no problem
  3. 01:31:882 (236,237) - deleted that and tried to listen with 25%. See no diference between them. Why did you do exactly d k? :o 01:29:063 (222) - here i can hear and see the reason, but here i can't. because there are the different in vocal tone
  4. 01:36:714 (261,264,266,271) - all beats looks like kats, but one 01:38:325 (266) - is don. Is it for following vocal? I mean, better to emphasize vocal changing rather than follow it by same notes. yes...that was true
  5. 01:46:782 - you can think about putting here kat for vocal emphasizing.agree... and applied too in the same pattern next
  6. 02:45:775 (63,64,67,68) - similar, what's about 02:45:775 (63,64) - ctrl+g to follow you rhythmics here. nope...to different it with 02:47:386 (67,68) -
  7. 04:26:446 (560,561,562) - do not emphasize only volume of vocal by those kats. There should be another way of emphasizing here, imo. for pattern variety... i mean this is 5 minute song :D
  8. Oh, rest is fine to me, i guess.
Some suggestion, not completely mod D:
Anyway, good luck with this one!
Surono
7,195 posts
Joined November 2013
Surono
after checked this set well its quite good for me, but I still doubt at overall of finisher usages.
yep you could find a few mods or try to catch other bn first, good luck.
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