That's the bruto force way. Of course, I could do that! Although I'd rather have a main menu option to disable it for all beatmaps
Yyorshire wrote:
cmod please
Part of the problem is how do you figure out whether the mapper is using SVs to normalize a song with wandering BPM, vs someone using them purely for effect? It's technically possible but it's extremely difficult. Too difficult to be worth spending any time on.Jawing wrote:
I don't mind universal speed variations (change in bpm).
Although I do not think visual speed variations are included in the calculation of the beatmap difficulty (someone tell me I'm wrong).
So essentially, you should be able to disable them.
I mean, imagine seeing a note a the top (at 40 mania speed) and it instantly goes to the bottom with 1 frame of travel. You'd have to memorize those parts O.O
I guess I'll deal with memorizing or so you call "feel the rhythm" for now
This is objectively wrong.Full Tablet wrote:
That mod shouldn't be unranked, instead, when looking at leaderboards, there should be an option to easily filter mods out (already possible if you use a script for seeing the site, though a considerable amount of players don't have those scripts installed). Also, it shouldn't give a pp penalty, since the star rating system doesn't account for SV changes; instead, either the difficulty system gives a bonus to star rating when maps have difficult-to-read SV changes, or make a ranking system where the players are ranked in more than 1 dimension, including SV-reading (like osu!stats or pp+ in osu!standard).
Keep DT ranked so people know how much of a joke the osu mania pp and star rating system isYyorshire wrote:
Also unrank DT
Even if it were to become one, what would be the issue in implementing it? If people would get more enjoyment out of a consistent scroll speed, then why not let them?johnmedina999 wrote:
Cmod would quickly become a clutch mod, as it so obviously is now.
What about all the maps on osu that I enjoy that aren't on stepmania? I typically enjoy SVs, but there are a couple of maps out there that would benefit my experience with them if they didn't have SVs. I "believe" that osu!mania would benefit from this system, but believing isn't ever a valid argument.johnmedina999 wrote:
I believe this game is fine without cmod, if you want it that desperately go play stepmania.
Because you and I both know that if cmod were to be implemented almost everyone minus absolte beginners would always have it on. This would lead to mappers being discouraged from creating SV maps anymore because no one is going to see them anyways. But of course you wouldn't mind this happening.Yyorshire wrote:
Even if it were to become one, what would be the issue in implementing it? If people would get more enjoyment out of a consistent scroll speed, then why not let them?
I use "believe" because I know that even if this was to get 10000 stars on Feature Requests it would still be unlikely to be implemented.Yyorshire wrote:
What about all the maps on osu that I enjoy that aren't on stepmania? I typically enjoy SVs, but there are a couple of maps out there that would benefit my experience with them if they didn't have SVs. I "believe" that osu!mania would benefit from this system, but believing isn't ever a valid argument.
fuck nojohnmedina999 wrote:
Really, we shouldn't even have fixed scroll speed. It should be on BPM, or even better, on multipliers.
And create situations in which people time worse on certain arbitrary constant BPMs just because their ideal reading speed isn't available for those BPMs with the available multipliers? I'd rather not have a repeat of not being able to play one of my favorite songs in pop'n 13 at an ideal speed because of missing multiplier.johnmedina999 wrote:
Really, we shouldn't even have fixed scroll speed. It should be on BPM, or even better, on multipliers.
You could set a speed based on the max/min/most used BPM like in LR2.Meseki wrote:
And create situations in which people time worse on certain arbitrary constant BPMs just because their ideal reading speed isn't available for those BPMs with the available multipliers? I'd rather not have a repeat of not being able to play one of my favorite songs in pop'n 13 at an ideal speed because of missing multiplier.johnmedina999 wrote:
Really, we shouldn't even have fixed scroll speed. It should be on BPM, or even better, on multipliers.
And even if you could set the multiplier very precisely (no less precise than every 0.01x), I'd rather not take out the calculator just to figure it out every time a BPM I don't remember shows up.
At one time, there was no "fixed" speed. Everything was BPM scaled. It sucked, because you constantly had to adjust your scroll speed based on the BPM of the song to try to get it as close as possible to your "ideal" scroll speed. In my case, I considered 150 bpm set to speed 18, and roughly every 10 bpm difference means I had to adjust up/down to account for the difference in bpm (so, 140 bpm = 19, 130 = 20, and 160 = 17, 170 = 16, etc.)johnmedina999 wrote:
Really, we shouldn't even have fixed scroll speed. It should be on BPM, or even better, on multipliers.
Even random is unranked here, you're expecting too much.Full Tablet wrote:
That mod shouldn't be unranked, instead, when looking at leaderboards, there should be an option to easily filter mods out
Underrated comment.Bobbias wrote:
Additionally, if a cmod style option were ever added there's absolutely no way peppy would allow it to be ranked, because in case any of you people haven't paid attention to peppy's attitude toward the game, he strongly believes that mappers should have a lot of control over how a player experiences a map. In standard, it took years of complaints before peppy added the ability to dim backgrounds in-game rather than force players to replace the background with a black image. And peppy also was not happy about allowing players to override a map's custom skin with the player's own. (I'm quite sketchy on the details about those events, but this is how I remember things. Anyone with better knowledge on those events can feel free to correct me)