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ClariS - Hitorigoto -TV MIX- [Taiko]

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Topic Starter
KamizonoShinobu

bbj0920 wrote:

nice song

why od6.3 just cut it off to 6

better mp3 from https://osu.ppy.sh/s/596704

00:01:946 (3) - 00:03:400 (6) - 00:04:855 (9) - 00:07:764 (13) - 00:09:218 (16) - 00:10:673 (19) - k, I get why you emphasize 00:09:764 (17,18) - kinda sounds but these 6 aren't as prominent, they just don't call for finishers. they sound somewhat ~lighter~, so k fits much better (imo)
^They are actually at same volume so it is ok to emphasis those 6 fxs
shouldn't you swap 00:15:037 (11,12) - and 00:17:946 (23,24) - , 00:20:855 (35,36) - and 00:23:764 (47,48) - too, fits the trumpet
^It will reduce the emphasis of d (13,37)
00:46:855 (162,163,164,165,166) - ddkkd fits better, dkdkd sounds kinda off
00:54:309 (203,204) - just make these a slider, K K sounds too stiff for this kinda sound
01:02:127 (251,252,253,254,255) - 01:13:763 (323,324,325,326,327) - d ddk d d?? why make these patterns feel empty out of nowhere
^ 3ok
01:15:945 (336) - This has to be a finisher imo, not having finisher here makes 01:16:673 (339,341,343,345,1) - sound too unnatural. so yeah 01:15:854 (335) - delete this too i guess
ok, remapped that bar in additional.
01:23:037 ~ 01:23:764 - what about ddkdddk k here? would make a nice buildup for 01:23:946 (38) - , fits the trumpet at 01:23:218 - imo
^ Breaks fml
01:26:855 - why not an ending finisher here
^01:28:218 has to be emphasis because strong fx. A spinner end can do the job.
Thanks for mod.
Smallwu
Hola!
Quick mod from in-game request
[General]
  1. 將BG往下移 因為白毛的頭被切半了:3
[Muzukashii]
  1. 把HP改成 5.5 或 6?
    因為這樣感覺比較順?A? (8-->7-->5-->6) 7突然變成5似乎犯了SM的強迫症 :o
    另外, 因為這是TV版(而且Note數和其他的Muzukashii比算是很少的), 所以HP高一點感覺是可被允許的

  2. 00:11:278 (1) - Finisher? 因為前面的Slider也是BIGBIG的那種 (較無關緊要:3)
  3. 00:14:006 (6,7,8,9) - k k d k like Oni?
  4. 00:19:824 (24,25,26,27) - ^
  5. 00:59:278 (143,144) - Ctrl+G to follow the ring? 我個人感覺 dk 和 kd 在這邊都能不錯的跟到人聲, 所以改一下, 讓鈴聲也可被跟到?
  6. 00:59:824 (146,147) - Ctrl+G if u 有意跟人聲
  7. 01:05:097 (169,170,171,172) - Ctrl+G because their pitches sound like that :3
  8. 01:10:914 (195,196) - Ctrl+G Reason same as 00:59:278
  9. 01:11:460 (198,199) - Ctrl+G Reason same as 00:59:824
  10. 01:16:005 (218) - k 或許你是想保持一致性? 但這裡放k比較好.
    人聲高於前個歌詞, 且有鈴聲在此:3 (若你這樣改, 也可以和後面的DkDkDkD起到映襯的效果)
[Oni]
  1. Agree iloveyou4ever, why OD is 6.3 ?O?

  2. 00:11:278 (1) - Finisher? 因為你前面的Slider也是BIGBIG的:3
  3. 00:29:460 (76) - I think this one move to 00:30:006 will have better effect
    再怎麼說, 原本地方的鼓點和 00:30:006 的喇叭聲比起來 還是喇叭比較好被跟
  4. 00:35:278 (105) - Move to 00:35:824 ^
  5. 00:41:006 (125) - 我不知道你是不是為了好打些才加這顆, 如果不是就移除吧, 這裡沒聲音:3
  6. 01:05:824 - 增加don來連結兩個段落? 這裡是有聲音的, 感覺加了也OK
=====
Good Luck! >3<
sing216
       /
新手之mod (:3 _ )=

Kantan
00:46:187 (38) - change to d?

gogotime :idea: :
00:56:733 (56) - move to 00:57:460 (57) -
00:59:642 (61) - move to 01:00:369 (62) -
^好似後面有音好啲 (如果接受既話後半part都跟番咁樣改)

01:17:824 (92) - Delete

Futsuu
00:52:187 (89) - move to 00:51:460 (87) -

gogotime :idea: :
00:57:097 (103) - delete and 00:57:460 (103) - add k
01:00:006 (112) - move to 01:00:369 (112) -
^比較明確follow緊邊到既音樂 (如果接受既話後半part都跟番咁樣改)

01:23:642 (18) - change to k

Muzukishii
00:25:460 (40) - d
00:28:369 (48) - d
00:31:278 (56) - d
00:34:187 (64) - d
^呢part冇左呢粒音有啲奇怪, 而且冇左好似都太疏

gogotime :idea: :
01:23:824 (260) - k 跟番前3個pattern kkk之後冇k, 後3個kkk有k

Oni
00:29:460 (76) - change to d 更加突顯之後粒藍音
00:47:006 (163) - delete
00:47:642 (168) - D?

加油, Good luck ah :)
Topic Starter
KamizonoShinobu

Smallwu wrote:

Hola!
Quick mod from in-game request
[General]
  1. 將BG往下移 因為白毛的頭被切半了:3 I changed the BG
[Muzukashii]
  1. 把HP改成 5.5 或 6?
    因為這樣感覺比較順?A? (8-->7-->5-->6) 7突然變成5似乎犯了SM的強迫症 :o Not a reason for me to change HP, also I want to be generous on HP this time.
    另外, 因為這是TV版(而且Note數和其他的Muzukashii比算是很少的), 所以HP高一點感覺是可被允許的

  2. 00:11:278 (1) - Finisher? 因為前面的Slider也是BIGBIG的那種 (較無關緊要:3) This fx is different to the previous 3 because it is a continuous effect.
  3. 00:14:006 (6,7,8,9) - k k d k like Oni?
  4. 00:19:824 (24,25,26,27) - ^ All 2 fixed
  5. 00:59:278 (143,144) - Ctrl+G to follow the ring? 我個人感覺 dk 和 kd 在這邊都能不錯的跟到人聲, 所以改一下, 讓鈴聲也可被跟到? No, rip overall structure, I start all bars with d.
  6. 00:59:824 (146,147) - Ctrl+G if u 有意跟人聲 ok
  7. 01:05:097 (169,170,171,172) - Ctrl+G because their pitches sound like that :3 ^^
  8. 01:10:914 (195,196) - Ctrl+G Reason same as 00:59:278
  9. 01:11:460 (198,199) - Ctrl+G Reason same as 00:59:824
  10. 01:16:005 (218) - k 或許你是想保持一致性? 但這裡放k比較好.
    人聲高於前個歌詞, 且有鈴聲在此:3 (若你這樣改, 也可以和後面的DkDkDkD起到映襯的效果)
    ^fixed in my own way
[Oni]
  1. Agree iloveyou4ever, why OD is 6.3 ?O?
    Reason mentioned, I want to make error allowance +-30.5ms
  2. 00:11:278 (1) - Finisher? 因為你前面的Slider也是BIGBIG的:3
  3. 00:29:460 (76) - I think this one move to 00:30:006 will have better effect
    再怎麼說, 原本地方的鼓點和 00:30:006 的喇叭聲比起來 還是喇叭比較好被跟 lost impact on emphasizing 00:30:187 (79) - finisher
  4. 00:35:278 (105) - Move to 00:35:824 ^ ^
  5. 00:41:006 (125) - 我不知道你是不是為了好打些才加這顆, 如果不是就移除吧, 這裡沒聲音:3 vocal has a long voice here, another d can fit in this slot, but I will seek for more opinion.
  6. 01:05:824 - 增加don來連結兩個段落? 這裡是有聲音的, 感覺加了也OK It will reduce the emphasis on showing another identical parts incoming.
=====
Good Luck! >3<

sing216 wrote:

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新手之mod (:3 _ )=
Hi dalao Orz
Kantan
00:46:187 (38) - change to d? not consistent with 00:52:006 (48) -

gogotime :idea: :
00:56:733 (56) - move to 00:57:460 (57) -
00:59:642 (61) - move to 01:00:369 (62) -
^好似後面有音好啲 (如果接受既話後半part都跟番咁樣改) will reduce the impact from finishers.

01:17:824 (92) - Delete vocal

Futsuu
00:52:187 (89) - move to 00:51:460 (87) - ok

gogotime :idea: :
00:57:097 (103) - delete and 00:57:460 (103) - add k
01:00:006 (112) - move to 01:00:369 (112) -
^比較明確follow緊邊到既音樂 (如果接受既話後半part都跟番咁樣改)

01:23:642 (18) - change to k


Muzukishii
00:25:460 (40) - d
00:28:369 (48) - d
00:31:278 (56) - d
00:34:187 (64) - d
^呢part冇左呢粒音有啲奇怪, 而且冇左好似都太疏
For breaks
gogotime :idea: :
01:23:824 (260) - k 跟番前3個pattern kkk之後冇k, 後3個kkk有k
^ lost impact from 01:24:006 (257) -

Oni
00:29:460 (76) - change to d 更加突顯之後粒藍音
00:47:006 (163) - delete
^ok
00:47:642 (168) - D? Seek for more opinion.

加油, Good luck ah :)
Thanks for mod, kds given.
Arrival
Hey

[Kantan]

00:54:006 (52) - Delete the slider for a complete 4/1 break before the kiai.
01:00:733 (63) - Put this as a finisher and delete 01:01:460 (64) - so you can have a 4/1 break while still having a good emphasis.
01:12:369 (83,84) - ^

[Futsuu]

01:06:187 (127) - Delete this for a slightly longer break at the half of the kiai

[Muzukashii]

00:41:460 (77) - You need to put this as a don, this is a pretty compex rhythm that uses both hands.

[Oni]
Od 6.3 ? Is there a particular reason ? I'd have put 6 or 5.5 considering the spread and the BPM.

00:41:006 (125) - Are you sure you want to keep this note ? It's not in the song and it makes a pretty big difficulty spike compared to the difficulty overall. I'd suggest to remove it to not overmap and to be coherent with the rest of your diff.

Call me back
Topic Starter
KamizonoShinobu

Arrival wrote:

Hey

[Kantan]

00:54:006 (52) - Delete the slider for a complete 4/1 break before the kiai. ok
01:00:733 (63) - Put this as a finisher and delete 01:01:460 (64) - so you can have a 4/1 break while still having a good emphasis.
01:12:369 (83,84) - ^
^ For break time, I used another method to fix.
[Futsuu]

01:06:187 (127) - Delete this for a slightly longer break at the half of the kiai ok

[Muzukashii]

00:41:460 (77) - You need to put this as a don, this is a pretty compex rhythm that uses both hands. This would reduce the contrast between 00:41:460 (77,78) - tho. Since 00:41:824 (78) - d act as a signal on starting new section of the song. Plus, this 1/3 isn't the hardest part of the difficulty.

[Oni]
Od 6.3 ? Is there a particular reason ? I'd have put 6 or 5.5 considering the spread and the BPM. I want to make it with +-30ms error allowance.

00:41:006 (125) - Are you sure you want to keep this note ? It's not in the song and it makes a pretty big difficulty spike compared to the difficulty overall. I'd suggest to remove it to not overmap and to be coherent with the rest of your diff. >Well, since you are the 2nd modder that told me about the same issue, I guess it is better to follow modder's advice. Deleted this note for easier pattern switching

Call me back
Thanks.
Aloda
Hm

General
A few of your tags are redundant - Eromanga, Sensei, ero, manga and tv are all included elsewhere in the metadata/tags.

Your offset might be a little off, I found myself consistently hitting a little late. Could just be me though.

Kantan
The 1/1 at 00:52:733 (49,50,51) feels a little out of place to me. The vocals here don't have the same inflection as the ones you've mapped 1/1 to previously in the section (00:44:006 (34,35,36) - 00:46:915 (39,40,41) etc) so using the same pattern here don't play well imo. I suggest removing 00:53:097 (50).

The 4/1 breaks in the Kiai section are very not good to play. Compare 00:56:369 - 00:57:824 to 00:59:278 - 01:00:733. The first is mapped very densely (for a Kantan) which is good, since this is the most intense part of the song. But then the second is just empty, it it makes a very stark and jarring contrast going from one to the other. The bpm is low enough that you don't need to leave huge gaps like this.

Futsuu
00:02:006 (3) - 00:03:460 (6) - 00:04:915 (9) etc feel very strange as finishers imo. Try kats instead, which contrast nicely with the rest of the finishers here.

Muzukashii
00:02:006 (3) - 00:03:460 (6) - 00:04:915 (9) etc feel very strange as finishers imo. Try kats instead, which contrast nicely with the rest of the finishers here.

In the Kiai, many of the 1/4 patterns you've used sound really weird, since the red tick following them has a strong vocal sound that you've completely ignored. This gives a weird impression as the strong mapping ends right before the strong vocal, and it's not nice to play. I suggest adding notes on these red ticks.

Oni
00:02:006 (3) - 00:03:460 (6) - 00:04:915 (9) etc feel very strange as finishers imo. Try kats instead, which contrast nicely with the rest of the finishers here.

Throughout the 00:24:369 - 00:36:006 section, your mapping almost always coincides with the vocals, so the couple of times it doesn't sound pretty weird. I suggest adding notes at 00:30:006 and 00:33:642 , though you might have to remove a couple of other notes to preserve the flow.

gl
Topic Starter
KamizonoShinobu

Aloda wrote:

Hm

General
A few of your tags are redundant - Eromanga, Sensei, ero, manga and tv are all included elsewhere in the metadata/tags.
^ it is necessery because the ranked version of this song has all of these tags

Your offset might be a little off, I found myself consistently hitting a little late. Could just be me though.
>Will check with BNs on this issue.

Kantan
The 1/1 at 00:52:733 (49,50,51) feels a little out of place to me. The vocals here don't have the same inflection as the ones you've mapped 1/1 to previously in the section (00:44:006 (34,35,36) - 00:46:915 (39,40,41) etc) so using the same pattern here don't play well imo. I suggest removing 00:53:097 (50). moved that note to 00:52:369 (49) -

The 4/1 breaks in the Kiai section are very not good to play. Compare 00:56:369 - 00:57:824 to 00:59:278 - 01:00:733. The first is mapped very densely (for a Kantan) which is good, since this is the most intense part of the song. But then the second is just empty, it it makes a very stark and jarring contrast going from one to the other. The bpm is low enough that you don't need to leave huge gaps like this. >BPM does not affect whether you need breaks or not, they are independent

Futsuu
00:02:006 (3) - 00:03:460 (6) - 00:04:915 (9) etc feel very strange as finishers imo. Try kats instead, which contrast nicely with the rest of the finishers here. >But the trumpet pitch are actually the same for the same bar.

Muzukashii
00:02:006 (3) - 00:03:460 (6) - 00:04:915 (9) etc feel very strange as finishers imo. Try kats instead, which contrast nicely with the rest of the finishers here. same as futsuu

In the Kiai, many of the 1/4 patterns you've used sound really weird, since the red tick following them has a strong vocal sound that you've completely ignored. This gives a weird impression as the strong mapping ends right before the strong vocal, and it's not nice to play. I suggest adding notes on these red ticks. Although your concern is correct, adding notes on those places will reduce the emphasis of finishers on each bar tho.

Oni
00:02:006 (3) - 00:03:460 (6) - 00:04:915 (9) etc feel very strange as finishers imo. Try kats instead, which contrast nicely with the rest of the finishers here. ^

Throughout the 00:24:369 - 00:36:006 section, your mapping almost always coincides with the vocals, so the couple of times it doesn't sound pretty weird. I suggest adding notes at 00:30:006 and 00:33:642 , though you might have to remove a couple of other notes to preserve the flow. Will reduce the effect of finisher emphasizing.

gl
Thanks for mod.
Arrival
Looks good

泡沫 !
Chromoxx
quick irc, looking at each diff very briefly... lower diffs had a few overly repetitive rythms and some other inconsistencies and the rythm in the oni still needs improving a bit imo...

logs
2017-05-09 15:09 Chocola_2287: hi
2017-05-09 15:09 Chocola_2287: do you accept mod req?
2017-05-09 15:09 Chromoxx: hi
2017-05-09 15:09 Chocola_2287: want to get more opinion before I ask 3rd BN check
2017-05-09 15:12 Chromoxx: mh not really atm... already have a few things to do
2017-05-09 15:12 Chromoxx: but i can maybe take a quick look in a bit if you want
2017-05-09 15:12 Chocola_2287: not even queueing up?
2017-05-09 15:13 Chocola_2287: Actually I am confused about 'spread' stuff
2017-05-09 15:14 Chocola_2287: I am still too noob to map easy diffs
2017-05-09 15:14 Chocola_2287: ACTION is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/1266755 ClariS - Hitorigoto -TV MIX-]
2017-05-09 15:18 Chromoxx: lemme check
2017-05-09 15:20 Chromoxx: kantan:
2017-05-09 15:20 Chromoxx: 00:05:467 (4,1) - either make both of these sliders or spinners
2017-05-09 15:20 Chromoxx: since it's the same sound
2017-05-09 15:21 Chromoxx: overall rythms are too repetitive, using the same tripletes too often
2017-05-09 15:21 Chocola_2287: 4,1? I thought it's 4,5
2017-05-09 15:21 Chromoxx: 00:05:467 - 00:11:285 -
2017-05-09 15:22 Chromoxx: 00:41:831 - this pattern is still kinda too long since it's more of a calm section
2017-05-09 15:22 Chromoxx: 00:54:922 - kiai patterns are too short when compared to the rest of the map
2017-05-09 15:23 Chromoxx: 00:59:285 - could add kkd triplet here, 01:10:922 - here too
2017-05-09 15:23 Chocola_2287: so I need more 4/1 breaks on 00:41:831 ?
2017-05-09 15:23 Chromoxx: 01:17:104 - 01:17:831 - delete, 01:17:467 - chagne to k
2017-05-09 15:24 Chromoxx: 00:12:740 - to 00:40:376 - is the section where it's too repetitive, you're using the same triplets again and again
2017-05-09 15:24 Chromoxx: 00:41:831 - and yea slightly more 4/1 breaks in this section and less kkd 1/1
2017-05-09 15:25 Chromoxx: Futsuu: 00:02:013 - change these notes to k, better emphasis on the DD
2017-05-09 15:26 Chromoxx: same thing about the slider/spinner again, either use both as sliders or both as spinners
2017-05-09 15:27 Chocola_2287: 00:02:013 - considering the same bar, these notes actually has same pitch as fxs in DD
2017-05-09 15:27 Chromoxx: the pitch is definitely higher
2017-05-09 15:27 Chromoxx: they have a different sound on them
2017-05-09 15:27 Chromoxx: it's more drawn out, whereas the DD is more abrupt
2017-05-09 15:28 Chromoxx: the DD have a strong bass hit, whereas the ones inbetween only have the high trumpet
2017-05-09 15:28 Chocola_2287: well by that it is already a seperate instruments
2017-05-09 15:29 Chromoxx: yes, so they shouldn't be mapped the same
2017-05-09 15:29 Chromoxx: specially when this results in the entire section being only D
2017-05-09 15:29 Chromoxx: 00:12:740 - in this section you're using kd too much, becoming repetitive even though the pitches change
2017-05-09 15:30 Chocola_2287: [http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8042926 maybe like this?]
2017-05-09 15:30 Chromoxx: 00:36:013 - to 00:40:376 - repetitive d k d k d becomes kinda boring
2017-05-09 15:30 Chromoxx: yea something like that ^^
2017-05-09 15:30 Chocola_2287: ah ok
2017-05-09 15:30 Chromoxx: 00:41:104 - for this section you could maybe map the 1/2 vocals instead of putting the triplet at 00:42:558 - etc.
2017-05-09 15:31 Chromoxx: kiai seems fine
2017-05-09 15:31 Chromoxx: muzu:
2017-05-09 15:32 Chromoxx: 00:02:013 - same thing about these notes
2017-05-09 15:32 Chromoxx: same thing about the slider/spinner
2017-05-09 15:33 Chromoxx: 00:12:740 - section here is good
2017-05-09 15:33 Chromoxx: although it could maybe be slightly denser for better spread
2017-05-09 15:33 Chromoxx: 00:24:376 - this section isn't dense enough
2017-05-09 15:34 Chromoxx: 00:41:104 (74,75,76,77) - either dddd or kkkk, patterns is a bit too hard for the muzu, considering the difficulty of the rest of the map
2017-05-09 15:34 Chromoxx: some rythms could still be improved, but that's basically the biggest things to notice
2017-05-09 15:35 Chromoxx: Oni: 00:02:013 - same thing here again and same with slider/spinner
2017-05-09 15:37 Chromoxx: 00:41:831 - rythm here is too intense when relating it to the rest of the map
2017-05-09 15:37 Chromoxx: overall rythm also needs some improvement
2017-05-09 15:38 Chocola_2287: so I basically need to remap part of it?
2017-05-09 15:38 Chromoxx: idk about remap, just self-mod it a bit more... as it is now it isn't ready for rank imho
2017-05-09 15:39 Chromoxx: this is just what i found after looking at each diff for 1min, so threre's probably more smaller stuff too... anyway, i gotta get back to doing some other stuff so i'll just post this as an irc in the thread
2017-05-09 15:39 Chocola_2287: ok thanks
2017-05-09 15:40 Chromoxx: np
JUDYDANNY
Sorry, I cant agree the rank soon. For rebubble mod.
Symbol meaning
 

  • | >> Little question and small suggestion.
    :idea: >> idea lol
  1. >> Normal suggestion.
    Big text >> Strong suggestion.
    :?: >> Questionable imo.
    :!: >>> Needs to improve some. (Rhythm is not good , plays or sounds weird)
    No comment >>simple (you can notice easily: just hits on drums or simple beats) , or already explained on the other place.
 or JUST MY OPINION.

Introduction
  1. Spread

    • :?: It has a little large gap between to Oni and Muzukashii about the dense flows. Muzukashii (and Futsuu and Kantan) can still add more notes.
      :!: It has large gap between to Kantan and Futsuu about the some parts. Kantan should add (Intro and kiai).
  2. The Opinions each parts.
    • :!: 00:12:740 - ~ 00:24:376 - Kantan needs more notes.
    1. 00:24:376 - ~ 00:36:013 - About Kantan ~ Muzukashii ,The patterns are not consistent with the vocal and Instrumental. It can improve for plays.
      :!: 00:36:013 - ~ 00:40:376 - Lack of big rest, Kantan ~ Muzukashii can nerf the more.
      :!: 00:41:831 - ~ 00:53:467 - About the all of diffs, Its over dense, you should reduse the power.
    2. About kiai 00:54:922 - ~

      • Kantan :arrow: can more add notes imo. Its a little airy with the Instrumental .
        Muzukashii :arrow: almost x-x-x-x-x-xxx can change to x-x-x-x-()-xxx-x imo like 00:56:376 - . Its not consistent with the vocal with plays.
    3. 01:15:285 - ~ I think you can make the finishers easier with plays.
  3. Kantan
    :!: About the density from 00:12:740 - , it has lager gap between to Futsuu. Kantan can add more.
    :?: :arrow: It’s not enough the 1/1 triple until 00:41:831 - . You should add more 1/1 triple on 00:12:740 - ~ , and 00:24:376 - ~ .
    :!: :arrow: Comparing with 00:41:831 - ~ 00:53:467 - and 00:54:922 - ~ 01:15:285 - .
    It’s not consistent the length. Formar part can make the easier.

  4. Futsuu
    :!: :arrow: Lack of over 2/1 breaks, It can still make them.
    :?: :arrow: 00:41:831 (65,66,67,68,69,70,71,72) - and 00:54:922 (100,101,102,103,104,105) - are perfect matching . I think its not same power with the Instrumental. Formar part can make the easier.

  5. Muzukashii
    :!: :arrow: It can make more harder and make the longer patterns.
    :?: :arrow: About the patterns , Its too larger gap between to Futsuu and Oni. Its not consistent rhythm and sounds and its lack of the flow with the Instrumental, you should reconsider the based pattens again.




Here’s a mod as just 1 modder
[Kantan]
  1. 00:14:558 - , 00:14:922 - add notes? Refer to Introduction-Opinions.
  2. 00:20:376 - , 00:20:740 - same as above.
  3. 00:23:649 - can add k , to follow the cymbals (Its the different point on 00:17:831 - .). Its good variation to avoid the monotone.
  4. 00:29:831 - add k for plays with vocals ?(refer to new suggestion on Futsuu and Muzukashii too) Its too simple for vocal part.
  5. 00:35:649 - same as above.

    :!: 00:36:013 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - I think it can make more large less dense. Its same the mount 00:24:376 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - , try to remove the begins mount ,so how about ↓?
    1. 00:36:740 - remove, 00:37:467 - change to k.
    2. Same, 00:39:649 - remove ,00:40:376 - change to k?
    3. 00:41:104 - add k ? (to follow the many drum sounds (Its the different point on 00:38:194 - .)
    :?: Comparing with 00:41:831 - ~ 00:41:831 - and 00:54:922 - ~ 01:15:285 - .
    It’s not consistent the length. Formar part can make the easier.
    1. 00:42:558 - , 00:45:467 - , 00:48:376 - remove?
  6. 00:53:467 - seems K fits better to lead the next Don.
  7. 01:00:013 - , 01:00:376 - add k for plays? Vocal sounds not stopped, I think its not enough the length.
  8. 01:02:558 - not d? just opinion.
  9. 01:04:376 (63,64) - kd? for the wave of pitch @vocal, and 01:05:104 - change to finisher to follow the bass accent?
  10. 01:11:649 - , 01:12:013 - add k? same as ^^^.
  11. 01:14:194 - not d? same as ^^^.
  12. 01:16:013 - same as ^^^, change to K?
  13. 01:17:104 - , 01:17:831 - either remove? Its a over power.
[Futsuu]
  1. 00:02:013 - , 00:03:467 - ,00:04:922 - remove? Its better to kind to play as Futsuu users, (lack 2/1 breaks too).
  2. 00:07:831 - , 00:09:285 - , 00:10:740 - same as above.
  3. 00:26:922 - , 00:32:740 - add k ? it plays good to me with vocal and trumpet.
  4. From 00:27:285 - ~ and from 00:33:104 - ~, how about this rhythm? http://puu.sh/vNL5B/082bf49ef4.jpg Its not enough to follow the vocal and Instrumental.
  5. 00:36:740 - move to 00:38:194 - ?
    *-1 for making a short rest.
    *-2 for variation with plays(the gap with 00:41:104 - (appeared the ⅓ sounds or not)).

    :!: From 00:42:194 - , same as Kantan. 00:41:831 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - I think it needs the high mount at the ending, not begining. Music sounds build up to up.
    ①00:42:194 - or 00:42:740 (1,2) - should cut(remove) at once,
    ②00:44:376 - add and around 00:44:013 - can make ½ instead.
    :arrow: From the above, I suggest some patterns. Try to make the some patterns. :3
    (d-k-d-()-d-k-ddk-)
    (d-()-d-k-d-d-k-kk)
  6. 00:44:740 - ~ , 00:47:649 - ~ same.
  7. 00:53:467 (1,2) - same as Kantan. KK?
  8. 01:02:013 - add k to follow the vocal?
  9. 01:13:649 - same as above.
  10. 01:16:013 - K? Aaa~~ →Aaa~~↑ lol
  11. 01:19:285 - remove and 01:19:649 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - change to d-k-d-kkd? Its more kind to play imo.
  12. 01:23:104 - move to 01:23:467 - ? If you prefer to refer the Muzukashii kat sounds.
  13. 01:25:104 - remove and 01:25:467 (1,2,3,4,5) - change to d-k-d-kk? same as above?
[Muzukashii]
  1. 00:24:740 - move to 00:25:467 - for plays with vocal. Iits very shorter pattern… refer to Oni suggestion too( 00:24:558 - removing suggestion)
  2. 00:26:922 - add k too? still lack of hitsounds with Instrumental and vocals imo.
  3. 00:27:649 - same as ^^.
  4. 00:29:104 (50,51) - how about move to ½ right and 00:29:831 - add k? dk-d-dk?
    It seems to nice to follow the Instrumental and vocals well.
  5. 00:30:558 - , 00:32:740 - ,00:33:467 - ,00:34:922 - ~~ same.
  6. 00:38:558 - , 00:40:013 - add k ? seems a bit airy imo.
  7. 00:40:740 (81,82,83,84,85) - how about change to k-dddd? for more easier plays ⅓ .
  8. 00:41:831 (86,87,88,89,90,91,92,93,94,95,96) - playing from dkdkd (00:43:285 - ~~ ), its suddenly intensional flows. I think you should follow the 1/1 double same as 00:41:831 (86,87) - .
    I suggest 1 patterns , how about “d-d-ddk-d-d-dk-kd”? :arrow: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8042638
  9. From 00:46:194 - ~~ same as above.. (d-k-dk-kd?)
  10. From 00:49:104 - ~~ same as above.. (d-k-ddkkd? *the variation cuz of 00:50:194 - sounds trumpet)
  11. 00:53:467 - same as other diffs, KK?
  12. 00:57:104 - move to 00:57:649 - ? refer to Introduction Opinion.
  13. 01:00:013 - move to 01:00:558 - ? (and change to k?) same.
  14. 01:02:376 - move to 01:02:013 - ? (and change to k?) I think its cleaned and nice to play 1/2-4plet vocal same as 00:56:376 (134,135,136,137) - .
  15. 01:03:104 (1,2) - change to (d,remove) ? ¼ seems not need imo (refer to Futsuu, comparing with the power balance)
  16. 01:06:376 - no add k?
  17. 00:57:831 - , 01:00:740 - no need to put the finisher imo for emphasized to next impact( 01:03:649 - )
  18. 01:08:740 - , 01:11:649 - , 01:14:013 - , 01:14:740 - same.
  19. 01:09:467 - , 01:12:376 - same as above.
  20. 01:15:831 - remove and 01:16:376 - and 01:16:558 - remove for the… making rest (no rest from 00:39:285 - ) and refer to next suggestion too.
    :!: From 01:16:558 - ~~, Its over powered comparing with the overall. remove the normal joined the finisher, so … 01:15:285 - ~~(D-k-D-()-D-K-D-kkD?)
  21. 01:19:104 (1,2) - remove? similar as Futsuu, It can make more easier.
  22. 01:20:194 - move to 01:20:922 - and 01:20:558 (1,2) - change to (d,remove) ? same reason.
  23. 01:22:013 (1,2) - remove and 01:24:922 (1,2) - remove, 01:25:285 - remove too? same reason.
[Oni]

  • Will edit.

Will post the Oni mod (¦3[___]
Topic Starter
KamizonoShinobu
Due to the length of the mod I will only check the main one. Basically everything I skipped were accepted.
No comment = accepted

JUDYDANNY wrote:

Here’s a mod as just 1 modder
[Kantan]
  1. 00:14:558 - , 00:14:922 - add notes? Refer to Introduction-Opinions.
  2. 00:20:376 - , 00:20:740 - same as above.
  3. 00:23:649 - can add k , to follow the cymbals (Its the different point on 00:17:831 - .). Its good variation to avoid the monotone.
  4. 00:29:831 - add k for plays with vocals ?(refer to new suggestion on Futsuu and Muzukashii too) Its too simple for vocal part.
  5. 00:35:649 - same as above.

    :!: 00:36:013 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - I think it can make more large less dense. Its same the mount 00:24:376 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - , try to remove the begins mount ,so how about ↓?
    1. 00:36:740 - remove, 00:37:467 - change to k.
    2. Same, 00:39:649 - remove ,00:40:376 - change to k? >Keep 00:39:649 - for variation compared to 00:36:013 (32,33) -
    3. 00:41:104 - add k ? (to follow the many drum sounds (Its the different point on 00:38:194 - .)
    >Struggling on this point, this is a good spot to have break tho.
    :?: Comparing with 00:41:831 - ~ 00:41:831 - and 00:54:922 - ~ 01:15:285 - .
    It’s not consistent the length. Formar part can make the easier.
    1. 00:42:558 - , 00:45:467 - , 00:48:376 - remove?
  6. 00:53:467 - seems K fits better to lead the next Don.
  7. 01:00:013 - , 01:00:376 - add k for plays? Vocal sounds not stopped, I think its not enough the length.
  8. 01:02:558 - not d? just opinion.
  9. 01:04:376 (63,64) - kd? for the wave of pitch @vocal, and 01:05:104 - change to finisher to follow the bass accent? >not intended to do so
  10. 01:11:649 - , 01:12:013 - add k? same as ^^^.
  11. 01:14:194 - not d? same as ^^^.
  12. 01:16:013 - same as ^^^, change to K?
  13. 01:17:104 - , 01:17:831 - either remove? Its a over power.

[Futsuu]
  1. 00:02:013 - , 00:03:467 - ,00:04:922 - remove? Its better to kind to play as Futsuu users, (lack 2/1 breaks too).
  2. 00:07:831 - , 00:09:285 - , 00:10:740 - same as above. >Futsuu player should be capable on playing the current pattern tho. Moreover these fxs are of same volume to the DDs so it shouldn't be ignored because of lacking breaks.
  3. 00:26:922 - , 00:32:740 - add k ? it plays good to me with vocal and trumpet.
  4. From 00:27:285 - ~ and from 00:33:104 - ~, how about this rhythm? http://puu.sh/vNL5B/082bf49ef4.jpg Its not enough to follow the vocal and Instrumental. >Better to snap with main ticks, this pattern is not friendly imo.
  5. 00:36:740 - move to 00:38:194 - ?
    *-1 for making a short rest.
    *-2 for variation with plays(the gap with 00:41:104 - (appeared the ⅓ sounds or not)).

    :!: From 00:42:194 - , same as Kantan. 00:41:831 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - I think it needs the high mount at the ending, not begining. Music sounds build up to up.
    ①00:42:194 - or 00:42:740 (1,2) - should cut(remove) at once,
    ②00:44:376 - add and around 00:44:013 - can make ½ instead.
    :arrow: From the above, I suggest some patterns. Try to make the some patterns. :3
    (d-k-d-()-d-k-ddk-)
    (d-()-d-k-d-d-k-kk)
  6. 00:44:740 - ~ , 00:47:649 - ~ same.
    ^Couldn't catch up here, remapped.
  7. 00:53:467 (1,2) - same as Kantan. KK? >refer to the intro
  8. 01:02:013 - add k to follow the vocal?
  9. 01:13:649 - same as above. >I refuse to use 5-plet here, it is not friendly
  10. 01:16:013 - K? Aaa~~ →Aaa~~↑ lol
  11. 01:19:285 - remove and 01:19:649 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - change to d-k-d-kkd? Its more kind to play imo. >No, this lost the focus on instrument.
  12. 01:23:104 - move to 01:23:467 - ? If you prefer to refer the Muzukashii kat sounds.
  13. 01:25:104 - remove and 01:25:467 (1,2,3,4,5) - change to d-k-d-kk? same as above? ^^

[Muzukashii]
  1. 00:24:740 - move to 00:25:467 - for plays with vocal. Iits very shorter pattern… refer to Oni suggestion too( 00:24:558 - removing suggestion)
  2. 00:26:922 - add k too? still lack of hitsounds with Instrumental and vocals imo.
  3. 00:27:649 - same as ^^.
  4. 00:29:104 (50,51) - how about move to ½ right and 00:29:831 - add k? dk-d-dk?
    It seems to nice to follow the Instrumental and vocals well.
  5. 00:30:558 - , 00:32:740 - ,00:33:467 - ,00:34:922 - ~~ same. >same what?
  6. 00:38:558 - , 00:40:013 - add k ? seems a bit airy imo.
  7. 00:40:740 (81,82,83,84,85) - how about change to k-dddd? for more easier plays ⅓ .
  8. 00:41:831 (86,87,88,89,90,91,92,93,94,95,96) - playing from dkdkd (00:43:285 - ~~ ), its suddenly intensional flows. I think you should follow the 1/1 double same as 00:41:831 (86,87) - .
    I suggest 1 patterns , how about “d-d-ddk-d-d-dk-kd”? :arrow: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8042638
  9. From 00:46:194 - ~~ same as above.. (d-k-dk-kd?)
  10. From 00:49:104 - ~~ same as above.. (d-k-ddkkd? *the variation cuz of 00:50:194 - sounds trumpet)
  11. 00:53:467 - same as other diffs, KK?
  12. 00:57:104 - move to 00:57:649 - ? refer to Introduction Opinion.
  13. 01:00:013 - move to 01:00:558 - ? (and change to k?) same.
  14. 01:02:376 - move to 01:02:013 - ? (and change to k?) I think its cleaned and nice to play 1/2-4plet vocal same as 00:56:376 (134,135,136,137) - .
  15. 01:03:104 (1,2) - change to (d,remove) ? ¼ seems not need imo (refer to Futsuu, comparing with the power balance)
  16. 01:06:376 - no add k?
  17. 00:57:831 - , 01:00:740 - no need to put the finisher imo for emphasized to next impact( 01:03:649 - )
  18. 01:08:740 - , 01:11:649 - , 01:14:013 - , 01:14:740 - same.
  19. 01:09:467 - , 01:12:376 - same as above.
  20. 01:15:831 - remove and 01:16:376 - and 01:16:558 - remove for the… making rest (no rest from 00:39:285 - ) and refer to next suggestion too.
    :!: From 01:16:558 - ~~, Its over powered comparing with the overall. remove the normal joined the finisher, so … 01:15:285 - ~~(D-k-D-()-D-K-D-kkD?)
  21. 01:19:104 (1,2) - remove? similar as Futsuu, It can make more easier.
  22. 01:20:194 - move to 01:20:922 - and 01:20:558 (1,2) - change to (d,remove) ? same reason.
  23. 01:22:013 (1,2) - remove and 01:24:922 (1,2) - remove, 01:25:285 - remove too? same reason.
[Oni]

  • Will edit.

Will post the Oni mod (¦3[___]
I'll post my reply now, to prevent even complicated format.
JUDYDANNY
2nd, sorry for late :?

[Kantan]
  1. 00:52:740 - add k? seems a little variation , it plays good emphashized for next finish.
  2. about the color 01:07:285 (76,82) - and 00:55:649 (56,62) -, unify either ?
[Muzukashii]
  1. 00:43:649 (96,97,98,99,100,101) - kd-dk-d seems to weird, you dont agree k-dk-kd?
  2. 00:46:558 (106,107,108,109,110) - same.
  3. 00:49:467 (116,117,118,119,120) - same.
  4. 01:02:194 - ~~~making like... d-d-k-d-ddd-k or d-d-k-ddd-d-k? not smooth with Instrument and vocal.
  5. 01:13:830 (217,218,219,220,221,222,223,224) - same as above.
  6. 01:20:649 - surprised ddk, remove one or move to 01:20:467 - instead?
  7. about 01:23:558 - and 01:23:831 -, it seems a bit over, remove them?
[Oni]
  1. 00:29:104 - and 00:29:467 - remove ? + 00:30:013 - add k there? like Muzukashi flow.
  2. 00:34:922 - and 00:35:285 - remove ? + 00:35:831 - add k there? same as above.
  3. 00:40:922 - move to 00:40:194 - and change to k ? not well followed the clear. I think the suggestion seems better flow.
  4. 00:38:013 - move to 00:37:285 - and change to k ? same as above.
  5. 00:44:558 - , 00:47:467 - 00:50:376 - add k ? to follow the trumpet.
  6. 01:16:740 (141,142,143,144,145,146,147,148,1) - making like Muzukashii?
  7. 01:18:376 - remove , ,01:21:285 - move to 01:20:922 - ,and 01:24:194 - move to 01:26:740 - ? not well following the vocal and instrumental.
Topic Starter
KamizonoShinobu

JUDYDANNY wrote:

2nd, sorry for late :?

[Kantan]
  1. 00:52:740 - add k? seems a little variation , it plays good emphashized for next finish. OK
  2. about the color 01:07:285 (76,82) - and 00:55:649 (56,62) -, unify either ? But why?
[Muzukashii]
  1. 00:43:649 (96,97,98,99,100,101) - kd-dk-d seems to weird, you dont agree k-dk-kd?
  2. 00:46:558 (106,107,108,109,110) - same.
  3. 00:49:467 (116,117,118,119,120) - same.
    ^ I am actually making the 2nd tick as k for this part, changing this pattern would ruin the rhythm brought by k
  4. 01:02:194 - ~~~making like... d-d-k-d-ddd-k or d-d-k-ddd-d-k? not smooth with Instrument and vocal. That was what I mapped on it before mods tho... Also I am changing all similar session for consistency
  5. 01:13:830 (217,218,219,220,221,222,223,224) - same as above. ^
  6. 01:20:649 - surprised ddk, remove one or move to 01:20:467 - instead?
  7. about 01:23:558 - and 01:23:831 -, it seems a bit over, remove them?
    ^removed 1 only, I need some density here because kiai.
[Oni]
  1. 00:29:104 - and 00:29:467 - remove ? + 00:30:013 - add k there? like Muzukashi flow.
  2. 00:34:922 - and 00:35:285 - remove ? + 00:35:831 - add k there? same as above. >applied, but you want to follow vocal instead?
  3. 00:40:922 - move to 00:40:194 - and change to k ? not well followed the clear. I think the suggestion seems better flow.
  4. 00:38:013 - move to 00:37:285 - and change to k ? same as above.
  5. 00:44:558 - , 00:47:467 - 00:50:376 - add k ? to follow the trumpet.
    ^ok
  6. 01:16:740 (141,142,143,144,145,146,147,148,1) - making like Muzukashii? >Spread rip, also D can emphasis the vocal
  7. 01:18:376 - remove , ,01:21:285 - move to 01:20:922 - ,and 01:24:194 - move to 01:26:740 - ? not well following the vocal and instrumental. >It is following the vocal/instrumental, but nvm, changed for better finisher emphasizing.
JUDYDANNY
Talking with creator, the set improved.
Rebubbled
Arrival
Muzukashii :

There isnt a single 2/1 break from 01:06:013 (184,185,186,187) - to the end

id suggest to do something like this 01:05:104 (180,181,182,183,184,185,186) -
Topic Starter
KamizonoShinobu

Arrival wrote:

Muzukashii :

There isnt a single 2/1 break from 01:06:013 (184,185,186,187) - to the end

id suggest to do something like this 01:05:104 (180,181,182,183,184,185,186) -
I thought that break is sth a futsuu required with, not muzukashii. But that pattern you suggested pretty much ignored the instrument which is flawed imo.

Discussed with 3rd BN, I messed up with futsuu and muzu. Fixed
but ddd k d _ because I want to follow vocal here.

Before I forget, I have to make a disclaimer again, Oni OD6.3 is intentional because I want to make it +-30ms error allowance. This act as a backup and a notice for whomever will mention this.
Arrival
h1t0r1g0t0
Surono
gR4t5
Skylish
pro die me, inc. the 3rd BN
Akemi_Homura
gratz~ :)
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