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Megurine Luka - Toeto

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Topic Starter
Yuuto Aoi
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 05 Agustus 2011 at 23:28:28

Artist: Megurine Luka
Title: Toeto
Source: song
Tags: toeto vocaloid megurine luka
BPM: 160
Filesize: 2368kb
Play Time: 03:28
Difficulties Available:
  1. collab (3,64 stars, 283 notes)
  2. MayDie's Hard (4,55 stars, 447 notes)
  3. Shy (1,64 stars, 187 notes)
  4. Timid (0,55 stars, 137 notes)
Download: Megurine Luka - Toeto
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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HUEEE FINALLY!!
this collab map between me, maya-san, and bhas-san is for the hard one
I change the 'easy' (timid) one to 'normal' (shy) because the voice says so =v=;;

Maya-san will comes up with the easy and insane later on =v=
THANK YOU FOR THOSE WHO TESTED!! QuQ!

(I still need to understand the 'storyboard' though -v- its confusing)
and maya neechan succeeded in making the easy one, so its now playable ;u;

another collab diff thanks to maya neesan and dielz7 neesan~~!!
Maya-kira
ao-chin you did it lol =))
well, you forget to mention that drawing was mine =3=
keyblade_bhas
I smell something fishy here......

As per my suggestions in school, I'll submit my guest diff

You know the drill, hyung! Kudosu plz!
Maya-kira
I FORGET MY STAR!! OAO!
GOMEN AOI KUN!
Bakario
star~ :D
keyblade_bhas
oAo
Moar stars!!

Oh btw hyung, did you put my name in the Brave Collab already?
Topic Starter
Yuuto Aoi
udah setan!
o0cannian0o
maybe the easy and normal diff shouid reset the note with distance snap.
all the diff should reset the note because there are so many slider hidden,its too hard to beginner,even i make combo breaks
the skin is beautiful ;)
Topic Starter
Yuuto Aoi
cann-san arigato ;_;
please help~~~ ;A;
o0cannian0o
oh i forgot
maybe you should make break time between some note.the time break is too long
MiiKun_old_1
bagus bgt BGnyaaa >w<
TP
slider buat shy....itu trlalu menipu... kasian temenku... (?)
maksudnya kasian yg masih....newbie? *dtabok*
Alsace
... kotak "source"-nya masih "song" -_-;; Coba ganti dulu ke nama komposer lagunya atau ga vocaloid aja dulu ._.
Bintang utk menambah motivasi~~ (?)
keyblade_bhas

Yuuto Aoi wrote:

udah setan!
Ah, aku bahagia *dancingonthefloor*
TicClick
Try offset 3110.

Nice BG, nice song.
poleng_orens
mau kasi star aja bleh ga?
pichubright
good beatmap~! :D 10000 star for the one who make this beatmap! =3
TicClick
I'll mod it later, don't think I forgot. So strange, now I see warning about my message's length.
Niva
Mod as I promised before in-game to MayaKira.

[General]
-> "Song" itu bukan source yang valid, kalau nggak yakin sama sourcenya mendingan dikosongin aja
-> Remove "toeto" dari tags karena sudah ada di judul lagunya
-> Coba buka semua file .osu-nya di Notepad, terus timpa line
PreviewTime: -1
LetterboxInBreaks: 1

dengan

PreviewTime: 174000
LetterboxInBreaks: 0

-> Kalau udah ada file approachcircle.png dan hitcircleoverlay.png, seharusnya file hitcircle.png juga harus ada (:
-> Storyboard-nya kalau dilihat di notepad itu terlalu banyak line yang diulang, seharusnya bisa pakai kode looping (L) aja, panduan untuk membuat kode looping ada di viewtopic.php?f=20&t=31476

[Brave collab]
-> Menurut gw lebih bagus namanya "Collab" aja xD
00:26:379 (3,4,5,6) - Ugh, terlalu susah dibaca. Coba dirubah jadi slider fan seperti http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/121600 ?
00:33:129 (1,2,3,4) - Usahakan supaya spacingnya konsisten
...ugh, masalah spacingnya banyak, usahakan diperbaiki sendiri spacingnya (:
01:29:379 (4) - Jangan pernah taruh note di bawah sebuah slider, karena secara kasat mata nggak terlihat
01:44:754 (1,2,3,4...) - Jujur tiba-tiba di bagian ini jadi lebih "intense", dan itu rasanya aneh banget ><
02:13:254 (5) - Coba dirubah jadi 1/1 slider + repeat, kedengarannya lebih bagus
02:56:379 (3) - Hampir nggak kelihatan kalau ini slider ><
03:04:629 (9) - Hidden repeat arrow
03:28:629 (4) - Coba dibuat jadi repeating 1/1 slider, terus spinner yang terakhir dihapus ?

[Shy]
-> Approach rate 7 buat Normal itu jelas terlalu susah, yang optimal biasanya AR 4
00:27:129 (3) - Coba tempatin lebih jauh, atau di new-combo kalau nggak mau dirubah placingnya
00:33:129 (1,1,1,1) - Pattern seperti ini jelas terlalu susah buat Normal
00:52:629 (1,2,3) - Sama seperti di atas
00:57:879 (5,6) - Gw ngerti sih maksudnya supaya (6) akhirnya berada di bawah (4), tapi kelihatannya terlalu maksa ><
01:41:379 (7) - Coba buat bentuk gelombang dari slider ini? http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/121615
02:25:629 (3) - Kenapa volumenya tiba-tiba naik? Nggak sesuai sama atmosfir lagu ini imo
02:41:379 (3,1) - Fatal spacing error
03:00:129 (1) - Kalau mau dibuat begini mestinya note ini di-stack sama (5) sebelumnya

[Timid]
-> Masalah difficulty setting lagi... Memang ini difficulty Easy, tapi bukan berarti se-Easy ini diff settingnya ><
00:17:379 (7) - Coba di-space lebih jauh lagi dari note sebelumnya
00:27:504 (6) - Reverse arrownya menghadap ke arah yang salah, coba slider ini dihapus lalu dibuat ulang
00:48:129 (1) - Stack ke akhir (3) ?
00:56:379 (1,2,3,4,5) - Coba di-unstack, soalnya di play mode kelihatannya aneh
01:08:379 (1,2,3,4,5,...) - Pattern seperti ini mohon dihindari di diff Easy, karena terlalu susah buat pemula >< (pattern begini itu sebenernya buat Hard/Insane)
01:31:629 (8) - Spacing error
01:48:129 (3) - Sama seperti sebelumnya, menaruh awal slider di tengah-tengah slider lain itu juga terlalu susah buat Easy
01:51:162 - Coba tarik awal break ini ke 01:51:129
02:06:129 (3) - Kenapa nggak di-stack sekalian orz
02:34:629 (4) - Unstack (kelihatan aneh di play mode), atau rubah jadi repeating slider ?
02:51:879 (4) - Spacingnya jangan disamakan dengan note-note sebelumnya
03:12:129 (1,2,3,4) - Unstack, kelihatan jelek di play mode
03:27:129 (1) - End di tempat inheritnya (garis hijau di timeline editor)

Masih banyak salah sih, apalagi soal spacingnya...
Gw sarankan buka AIMod (File -> Open AIMod) agar terlihat di mana ada spacing errornya

Good luck~
Topic Starter
Yuuto Aoi

Nivalis wrote:

Mod as I promised before in-game to MayaKira.

[General]
-> "Song" itu bukan source yang valid, kalau nggak yakin sama sourcenya mendingan dikosongin aja
-> Remove "toeto" dari tags karena sudah ada di judul lagunya
-> Coba buka semua file .osu-nya di Notepad, terus timpa line
PreviewTime: -1
LetterboxInBreaks: 1

dengan

PreviewTime: 174000
LetterboxInBreaks: 0

-> Kalau udah ada file approachcircle.png dan hitcircleoverlay.png, seharusnya file hitcircle.png juga harus ada (:
-> Storyboard-nya kalau dilihat di notepad itu terlalu banyak line yang diulang, seharusnya bisa pakai kode looping (L) aja, panduan untuk membuat kode looping ada di viewtopic.php?f=20&t=31476

[Brave collab]
-> Menurut gw lebih bagus namanya "Collab" aja xD
00:26:379 (3,4,5,6) - Ugh, terlalu susah dibaca. Coba dirubah jadi slider fan seperti http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/121600 ?
00:33:129 (1,2,3,4) - Usahakan supaya spacingnya konsisten
...ugh, masalah spacingnya banyak, usahakan diperbaiki sendiri spacingnya (:
01:29:379 (4) - Jangan pernah taruh note di bawah sebuah slider, karena secara kasat mata nggak terlihat
01:44:754 (1,2,3,4...) - Jujur tiba-tiba di bagian ini jadi lebih "intense", dan itu rasanya aneh banget ><
02:13:254 (5) - Coba dirubah jadi 1/1 slider + repeat, kedengarannya lebih bagus
02:56:379 (3) - Hampir nggak kelihatan kalau ini slider ><
03:04:629 (9) - Hidden repeat arrow
03:28:629 (4) - Coba dibuat jadi repeating 1/1 slider, terus spinner yang terakhir dihapus ?

[Shy]
-> Approach rate 7 buat Normal itu jelas terlalu susah, yang optimal biasanya AR 4
00:27:129 (3) - Coba tempatin lebih jauh, atau di new-combo kalau nggak mau dirubah placingnya
00:33:129 (1,1,1,1) - Pattern seperti ini jelas terlalu susah buat Normal
00:52:629 (1,2,3) - Sama seperti di atas
00:57:879 (5,6) - Gw ngerti sih maksudnya supaya (6) akhirnya berada di bawah (4), tapi kelihatannya terlalu maksa ><
01:41:379 (7) - Coba buat bentuk gelombang dari slider ini? http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/121615
02:25:629 (3) - Kenapa volumenya tiba-tiba naik? Nggak sesuai sama atmosfir lagu ini imo
02:41:379 (3,1) - Fatal spacing error
03:00:129 (1) - Kalau mau dibuat begini mestinya note ini di-stack sama (5) sebelumnya

[Timid]
-> Masalah difficulty setting lagi... Memang ini difficulty Easy, tapi bukan berarti se-Easy ini diff settingnya ><
00:17:379 (7) - Coba di-space lebih jauh lagi dari note sebelumnya
00:27:504 (6) - Reverse arrownya menghadap ke arah yang salah, coba slider ini dihapus lalu dibuat ulang
00:48:129 (1) - Stack ke akhir (3) ?
00:56:379 (1,2,3,4,5) - Coba di-unstack, soalnya di play mode kelihatannya aneh
01:08:379 (1,2,3,4,5,...) - Pattern seperti ini mohon dihindari di diff Easy, karena terlalu susah buat pemula >< (pattern begini itu sebenernya buat Hard/Insane)
01:31:629 (8) - Spacing error
01:48:129 (3) - Sama seperti sebelumnya, menaruh awal slider di tengah-tengah slider lain itu juga terlalu susah buat Easy
01:51:162 - Coba tarik awal break ini ke 01:51:129
02:06:129 (3) - Kenapa nggak di-stack sekalian orz
02:34:629 (4) - Unstack (kelihatan aneh di play mode), atau rubah jadi repeating slider ?
02:51:879 (4) - Spacingnya jangan disamakan dengan note-note sebelumnya
03:12:129 (1,2,3,4) - Unstack, kelihatan jelek di play mode
03:27:129 (1) - End di tempat inheritnya (garis hijau di timeline editor)

Masih banyak salah sih, apalagi soal spacingnya...
Gw sarankan buka AIMod (File -> Open AIMod) agar terlihat di mana ada spacing errornya

Good luck~
pertama kak ;_;
saran kakak bisa aku coba semua (yang soal mapnya)
tapi entah kenapa-- storyboardnya gak mau oTL <-- stres sendiri
Dielz7
star aja deh :)
ayoo yuuto aoi, berjuang biar beatmapnya di ranked 8-)
TicClick
Oh.

General
— Metadata: remove 'song' from Source field. Remove 'megurine luka' and 'toeto' from tags.
— Kiai:
  1. 00:57:110 — start first kiai from here and end it at 1:04:610
  2. 01:27:110 — start second kiai from here
  3. Start your third kiai from 02:03:110 and end it at 02:03:297. You'll get nice fountain and avoid overusing
Timid
Check your spacing!
00:06:110 (1,2,1,2) - you better change their shape
00:27:110 (5) - place it to 00:30:110
00:27:485 (6) - place it to 00:27:110
00:36:110 (1,2,3,4) - sudden claps. Remove them
00:33:860 (2,4,2,4) - whistles
00:39:110 (5) - delete finish and add whistle for end and beginning
00:40:985 (6) - delete claps
00:44:360 (2) - you better make it 1/2 longer
00:57:860 (3,4,5) - change it to slider since it's 'Easy'
00:59:360 (1,2) - change their shape to something more interesting
01:04:610 — start break from here
01:08:360 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - remove all these claps
01:14:735 (7) - hey, don't play with sliders' velocity on 'Easy'!
01:21:110 (4) - the same
01:39:110 (1) - remove clap from the end
01:40:610 (2) - remove clap from the middle point
01:51:128 — start break from here
02:03:110 (1,2,3,4) - remove claps
02:48:110 (1) - place it closer. Previous note is 4.82x, that's crazy
02:58:985 (3) - replace it by note added to 02:59:360 (3) -

I will write more mod if I see your reply to this.
Topic Starter
Yuuto Aoi

TicClick wrote:

Oh.

General
— Metadata: remove 'song' from Source field. Remove 'megurine luka' and 'toeto' from tags.
— Kiai:
  1. 00:57:110 — start first kiai from here and end it at 1:04:610
  2. 01:27:110 — start second kiai from here
  3. Start your third kiai from 02:03:110 and end it at 02:03:297. You'll get nice fountain and avoid overusing
Timid
Check your spacing!
00:06:110 (1,2,1,2) - you better change their shape
00:27:110 (5) - place it to 00:30:110
00:27:485 (6) - place it to 00:27:110
00:36:110 (1,2,3,4) - sudden claps. Remove them
00:33:860 (2,4,2,4) - whistles
00:39:110 (5) - delete finish and add whistle for end and beginning
00:40:985 (6) - delete claps
00:44:360 (2) - you better make it 1/2 longer
00:57:860 (3,4,5) - change it to slider since it's 'Easy'
00:59:360 (1,2) - change their shape to something more interesting
01:04:610 — start break from here
01:08:360 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - remove all these claps
01:14:735 (7) - hey, don't play with sliders' velocity on 'Easy'!
01:21:110 (4) - the same
01:39:110 (1) - remove clap from the end
01:40:610 (2) - remove clap from the middle point
01:51:128 — start break from here
02:03:110 (1,2,3,4) - remove claps
02:48:110 (1) - place it closer. Previous note is 4.82x, that's crazy
02:58:985 (3) - replace it by note added to 02:59:360 (3) -

I will write more mod if I see your reply to this.
okay thank you, please continue to the next mod ^^
I'll give the kudosu when all map are modded, so its fair ^^
TicClick
Sure. Here is the rest of my mod.

Before I post it, I will say this phrase: try not to make so much straight lines. Map looks much better when it has curved sliders (or just cool sliders' shapes) and notes aren't put in lines. Make some circle patterns, pentagons, zig-zags.

Fix kiai in all diffs; if you forgot how, read my first post for "Timid".
Done? Then continue reading.



Shy
Check your spacing! I saw notes which are 1.4x, 1.2x and 1.0x far.
Also, there are too many claps. Try to remove every second clap in some "overclapped" places.

00:15:485 (1,2) - move 'em back to white tick and add note to 00:16:610
00:21:860 (5) - new combo
00:29:360 (4) - insert break after this note
00:34:610 (1,1) - remove new combo
01:02:735 (3) - new combo
01:08:360 (2,3,4,5) - change this pattern
01:08:360 (2) - new combo
01:21:110 (1) - add finish?
01:29:735 (8) - move it 1 grid left
01:29:735 (8) - ^
01:30:860 (1) -
01:28:610 (5) - new combo
01:33:860 (3) - new combo
01:36:485 (1) - delete this spinner and map through it
01:43:985 (8) - no, make another thing
01:41:360 (7) - new combo
01:52:235 (4) - insert break after it
02:03:110 (1) - remove the second and the fourth anchorpoints. Then grab the one in the middle and pull it up until you get slider with the same length as it has
02:06:110 (3) - the same thing, but now pull middle anchor down. Don't forget to remove 2nd and fourth anchors first
02:09:110 (1) - the same. I guess you've already got what you need to do
02:12:485 (3) - make it shorter so its end should be on a big white tick
02:18:110 (1,2,3,4) - I see three fragments with the same pattern. Please, change 'em
02:28:235 (6,7,8) - place it further from previous note
02:30:110 (1) - starting from this slider, there are too many finish sounds. Please, leave only every fourth
02:43:610 (5,9) - new combo
02:46:235 (1) - not long enough. You should either (remove it and map through it) or (remove three previous notes and start it from 02:45:110 to 02:47:360)
02:46:235 (1) - also remove whistle
02:50:360 (3,4) - bad direction, don't use it
03:15:110 (5) - new combo
03:27:110 (1) - use finish here



collab
Actually, it should be Collab. "c" is capital.

00:08:754 (6) - new combo
00:11:004 (9) - wrong! Never hide sliders or notes under other sliders' bodies
00:26:360 (3) - new combo
00:36:129 (6) - ^
00:39:597 (1) - start it from 00:39:485 and end at 00:42:110. Also add finish
00:59:004 (6,11) - new combo
01:05:004 (1) - remove new combo
01:15:879 (4) - this slider's shape isn't ok
01:17:754 (6) - you better place it somewhere else
01:18:129 (1) - I guess you used too many anchors. Remove some. You also may use red anchor to achieve the same effect; to add it, select slider, hold Ctrl and click twice in the same place
01:18:879 (2,3,4) - the same as above
01:21:129 (1) - finish sound
01:29:379 (4) - you must place it somewhere else
01:31:254 (3) - make it more symmetrical
01:36:879 (7) - haha, nice one!
01:38:004 (8) - place it somewhere else
01:38:754 (10) - this note is ok. If you wanna put it in another place, then do it
01:58:629 (5) - this one is not ok. It deceives. Please, do something with it
02:05:566 (2) - delete this and use something another
02:35:379 (10) - you better delete the middle anchorpoint
02:33:129 (7) - new combo
02:39:129 (7) - new combo
02:42:504 (2) - why this slider suddently goes with 2x speed? Make this fragment at least 1.5x
03:12:129 (1) - the same. You better don't play with sliders' velocity. Keep it constant and boost a little in some really 'fast' moments
03:14:379 (4) - huh? You better put it in another place
03:16:254 (3) - make it more symmetrical
03:20:379 (5) - apply finish to slider's beginning
03:21:879 (7) - new combo
03:24:129 (1) - finish; remove clap
03:28:610 (4) - apply finish to slider's end
Delete the last offset (210785); it's useless



MayDie's Hard
00:21:035 (2,3,4) - move 1/4 back and make 1/4 longer
00:39:129 (1) - apply finish on slider's beginning and add it in other moments like this
00:46:441 (4) - you better place it after slider because you did it so with 00:45:691 (2) -
01:17:004 (8) - new combo
01:24:129 (1) - finish
01:39:129 (3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - nice try. Now change its shape to something better. Avoid these 'corners'.
01:43:441 (6) - new combo
01:45:504 (3) - don't make sliders suddently change their speed. People can't see it from the first time so they will just break combo and have bad thoughts about ya
01:46:629 (7) - new combo
02:05:097 (3) - remove this note?
02:13:254 (5) - new combo
02:15:129 — add note with finish; remove finish from prev.
02:27:129 (5) - drag new combo to this note and remove it from next
02:27:222 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2) - kinda stream? Better change its shape or re-map
02:41:754 (4) - new combo
02:49:629 (1,2,3,4) - place it exactly in the center
02:52:535 (1) - finish
02:55:629 (7) - new combo
03:01:254 (12,13,14,15,16) - you better don't use stream here
03:00:035 (9) - new combo
03:08:754 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1,2,3) - make it more roundish
03:21:504 (5) - new combo
03:11:754 (1,2,3,4) - and so on. Why the hell are here streams? They don't fit the music
03:27:129 (1) - finish




Last thing: I don't see in the tagset names of people who made diffs for you. Please, add 'em.
Topic Starter
Yuuto Aoi
Hello, this is yuuto's sister speaking.
Yuuto said that he won't update this map again. ._.
thank you for your mod anyway ><
the user is back to his house (he's only online during the vacation to my place)
TicClick

Yuuto Aoi wrote:

Hello, this is yuuto's sister speaking.
Yuuto said that he won't update this map again. ._.
thank you for your mod anyway ><
the user is back to his house (he's only online during the vacation to my place)
:(

Anyway, I wish you and your brother good luck. Bye-bye
Tessellate
FINALLY!! I've been waiting for someone to do Toeto. I've been liking it so far! Keep up the good work. :)
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