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Kyuukai

Joined December 2014

Kyuukai 2017-05-31T09:44:56+00:00

iYiyo wrote:
[Kyuukai's Insane]
00:44:279 (1,3) - Idk but this overlap feels a bit odd, mainly because the (3) head isn't visible at all. Why not blanketing with each other? moved it a bit
00:46:073 (6,7,8,9) - hitsounds?
00:51:290 (6,7,8,9,10) - these jumps really felt off, like... you're mapping such a calm section with 1,2x DS and then boom xD Highly consider doing this more consistent not really, 00:51:779 (9,10) - sound is "growing up" compared to the other jumps in that section
01:03:518 (4,5,1) - fix hitsounds here
01:05:638 - I don't think there should be a clap D:
01:11:997 (2) - clap or something?
01:13:301 (2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - hitsounds

about hitsounding, blame Realazy

Realazy

Elite Mapper

1,004 posts

Joined June 2011

Topic Starter

Realazy 2017-06-01T23:40:16+00:00

iYiyo wrote:
Heyo m4m from your Q

[Extra]
00:03:848 (1) - Similar as your other mapping where you follow vocal, I think you should same with this. Consider doing 3/4 reverse slider, fits way more to the current mapping imo. idk a 3/4 slider just feels wrong here, the slidertail doesn't land on anything then
01:11:508 (2) - I think you shouldn't reduce the DS of this jump cause you interrupt the current intense movement. they sound less intense to me so i'd like to emphasize that and also the fact that this shows a change from the instruments i was following with the jumps

rest was fixed including idiot kyuukai messing with my hs, thanks for modding!

Kin

2,618 posts

Joined August 2010

Kin 2017-06-03T03:49:28+00:00

MBmasher wrote:
kin's Hard
00:50:149 (3,4) - Shouldn't these be the same slider like 00:47:540 (3,4) - and 00:48:845 (7,8) - I get your point, but as long the timeline is the same, there's no problem
00:51:453 (3,4) - Shouldn't this be 2 1/2 sliders to follow the pattern I think the current pattern goes pretty well here
01:00:258 (3,4,1) - Same distance snap but different time spacing? it's on purpose

Pachiru wrote:
[Hard]
00:10:354 - Je trouve que ça fait bizarre d'ignorer ce vocal, sachant que tu mappes sur tout les vocals dans les parties d'avant parce que le vocal est içi 00:10:173 - ; et qu'il est mappé de mannière passive
01:21:290 (2,3,1) - Le flow est un peu chelou ici, surtout entre le 01:21:290 (2,3) - essaie de faire un truc avec un angle moins droit pour que ça soit plus simple a jouer c'est surtout du flow emphasis sur 01:21:942 (1) - ; vu que c'est du NC, et que le vocal est assez strong
Pour revenir au début, pour quelques parties j'ai remarqué que tu utilisais pas un spacing constant, mais je pense que ce serait bien de le faire, et ça rendrait un style plus propre a la part je pense, genre par exemple le spacing ici est pas constant: 00:18:868 (2) - (en général tu utilise du x0.80, mais la c'est du x0.83 et x0.77, donc l'écart est assez élevé). Y'en a d'autres, mais je te laisse check par toi même parce que je map avec la grid

Jean-Michel Jr wrote:
[Kin's Hard]

00:46:562 (5,6,1) - The two notes are overlapping with the slider, but not in the same way ; I think it would be nice to move the slider a bit to the left so that its head is at an equal distance from the two notes ça devrait être un peu mieux now

Dragontail wrote:
[Kin's Hard]
00:09:631 extend slider to fit vocal line? extending it, will only ruin it
00:17:944 (5,6,1) I think normal stack will work the purpose of customs stack, is to get a perfect blanket
00:26:019 this slider looks like it is overlapping almost, which is very confusing for a hard we can clearly see it path
00:46:888 stack with previous note? no it will ruin flow emphasis & break the triangle. Here is explication : 00:46:236 (3,4,5,6) - snares -> linear ; 00:46:888 (1) - cymbal > angle change
00:55:040 a player would probably not be prepared with the triplet here since so abruptly placed. Maybe a once repeating slider would work better? I prefer to keep it as triplet. If the song does have those kind of triplet starting on white tick, there's nothing wrong about mapping it
01:01:888 same as before
01:02:214 The slider here may confuse the player so many connects into next slider? that's even more confusing

-NanoRIPE- wrote:
hard
hitsound? should be done right now

00:37:105 (3,4) - ctrl g for emphatize the the vocal and the drum correctly using linear flow on this case won't emphasize more the vocal/drum.
00:56:671 (3,4,5) - 1/4 reverse slider here and then 1/2 slider at 00:56:997 - for better rhythm I still prefer the current way, because there's only snares here 00:56:834 - 00:56:915 - 00:56:997 -
00:59:932 (1) - unstack for represent the drum more starting the cursor mouvement on 00:59:932 (1,2) - is actually representing the drum in a better way than constant spacing between 00:59:768 (8,1) -
01:15:584 (1) - im prefer you reverse this slider than use circle on the next white tick cause the drum and the guitar is not really strong tho for a circle that's actually the reason why there's 1/1 break here 01:16:073 -

iYiyo wrote:

[Kin's Hard]
00:10:354 - Why not mapping this part? You're following vocals~~+violin~~ and here are these in order to map. Might be a Hard, but still you should properly map the music here I'm only following the vocal.
00:39:062 (5) - add NC? fixed
00:37:595 - Since there's some strong beat+ follows vocals, I highly recommend you to make it clickable instead of being a slider tail. Right now feels a bit weird to have such hitsounds there. 00:41:345 (4) - here you do it fine~ I prefer to start the new section with a simple pattern easy to understand
00:57:812 (2,4,6) - since you're changing DS for every section here, why not adding a NC for every circle there? fixed

thanks for the mod everyone!

Hard update

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Smokeman

463 posts

Joined November 2012

Smokeman 2017-06-04T16:42:20+00:00

m4m from your q

Extra

00:13:969 (3,4) - I thnk keeping the curvy slider aethetic would be better. It's not like this part will get boring because of too many curvy sliders. You coudl do somehting like this to change things up if you want https://puu.sh/waEQd/b796da286f.png
00:17:402 - mute the tick or silence them in genral.
Alternatively: 00:16:679 (3) - move the head to the white tick and make it a 1/1 slider. Imo the slider starts a bit too early, since the "ni" start like between the blue and white tick somehow. (on the white tick you would hit the faint background flute-thingy aswell)
00:18:306 - carful there. Timing point act like a 1.00x inherited point. Your slow down green line 00:00:957 - does not affect the following objects!
00:18:306 - I woudl recommend a slow continous drop in sv for all the red points aswell. I think it fits well to the atmosphere of this section in particular. https://puu.sh/waF8v/a581cc8b3c.png
00:26:508 (2,3,4,5) - very decieving pattern.
00:29:279 (3) - this looks ok if you only at 00:29:279 (3,4) - . But the way it positioned to what comes before 00:28:627 (1,2,3) - makes it look really awkward. I would recommend using the left playfield area for 00:29:279 (3) - instead since the area you put it in already was busy with your last pattern making the map feel less clunked but also fixing the akward positioning of 3 in regard to 00:28:464 (5,1,2) - . put it somewhere here https://puu.sh/waFoa/0fcf5126c4.png (couldnt think of a quick way to put it in there so use without changing too much)
00:34:497 (3) - put a proper noticable angle on it or make it straight. this is slightly triggering https://puu.sh/waFtu/71d531afb5.png
00:34:986 (4,5,6,2,3) - the way these are stacked is the same (auto stacking from the editor) Try using different custom stacking methods so they are a bit clearer.
00:35:964 (5,1) - very wierd that this is spaced the same as 00:36:127 (1,2) - even thos 1,2 are the heavy drum sounds. i would recommend lowering 00:35:964 (5,1) - so the jumps are more intuitive when playing.
00:37:921 (2) - wyh not curve this aswell (blanket curve of 00:38:410 (4) - )? I dont see a reason to make this straight, it makes your pattern look worse but is still played like it's supposed to be a curved slider (see the flow of 00:37:595 (1,2,3,4) - ). Something like this maybe https://puu.sh/waFFv/da35bd0bc1.png
00:38:410 (4,5,1) - Woudl be very nice to have some contrast between these objects since they are representing different sounds with their respective intensity. 00:38:736 (5,1) - shoudl be higher spaced than 00:38:410 (4,5) - to create the impact you would expect from an upbeatdrum sound like 00:39:062 -
00:39:714 (3,4,1) - the way 4 moves to 1 is also unnecessarily awkward. You have a musicly very simple section but you decide to map wierd angles and ignore slider impact angles all the time...
00:41:018 (4,5,7,8,1) - you probably claculated the triple to be exactly in the middle of 4 and 5 but this is how it looks like in reality https://puu.sh/waFPi/646c729cc9.png. i would recommend using stacking when mapping to you avoid unintended results
00:51:127 (2,3,4) - The vocals build up intensity here and you mapped these 3 sliders in the weakest possible way. Missed opportunity to have a nice intense slider pattern.
00:54:714 (1) - here you mapped this sound wiht a 174 slider but here 00:55:203 (1,2) - with 2 circles? Try to stick with one so you represent the same simple rythm equally. If you map it liek this you imply that that there is some difference but there isn't...
01:01:399 (4,1,2,3) - you mgiht wanan adjust these aswell, reason https://puu.sh/waG3C/84e9049c2a.png
01:03:192 (5,6,1,2,3,4) - i have no idea how you intended this to play out. It felt wierd when playing and it looks even wierder in the editor. In short I dont think you represented the music very well here...
01:04:986 (7,8,1) - let the triplet flow into the curvature of the slider curve??
01:08:084 (2,3) - These look ever so slightly off... cant you copy paste one over the other (not to mention the fucking 0.5° angle... why...)
01:09:551 (2,4) - see you can make straight sliders...
the whole kiai is an aesthetical mess to me...

Linada

00:13:969 (3,4) - how about copy pasting one instead of having slightly off angles? I woudl also recommend to keep the curvy slider in the section like i mentioned above.
00:17:402 - mute the tick or silence them in genral.
Alternatively: 00:16:679 (3) - move the head to the white tick and make it a 1/1 slider. Imo the slider starts a bit too early, since the "ni" start like between the blue and white tick somehow. (on the white tick you would hit the faint background flute-thingy aswell)
00:19:806 (4,5) - up the angle by 2° or something to make the angle difference more noticeable
00:18:306 - carful there. Timing point act like a 1.00x inherited point. Your slow down green line 00:00:957 - does not affect the following objects!
00:18:306 - I woudl recommend a slow continous drop in sv for all the red points aswell. I think it fits well to the atmosphere of this section in particular. https://puu.sh/waF8v/a581cc8b3c.png (same as extra)
00:28:627 (1,2) - move 2 a bit further away from the slider body so you keep some unity distance (see 00:27:160 (1,3) - and following similar patterns)
00:35:475 (2,3,1,2,1,2) - this pattern is nice for jumps but you could emphasise the drums a bit better. At the moment every objects has nearly the same emphasis althought some of them follow completely differently intense sounds. 00:35:312 - 00:35:801 (1) - 00:36:127 (1,2,1) - these are the most prominent while 00:35:475 (2,3,2) - are more of a fill in rythm which is clearly less noticable. Try changing the pattern up to fit this, there seemingly infinte equally cool jump pattern which respect these properties!
00:55:284 (2) - delete this and adjust the pattern to fit a note at 00:55:122 - . If you listen closely you will notice that its a 1-5-5 drumroll pattern. (or somethign like that, note: 00:55:203 - and 00:55:692 - should be the dominant parts of the streams since this is where the snares at)
01:09:551 (1,1) - slightly confusing. shouldnt 01:10:040 (1) - start 01:09:877 - since the thing which picks up in intensity are the vocals with another one at 01:10:203 -. 01:09:551 (1) - make this shorter and adjust teh rest i guess

tbh this should be the highest diff in this set. wtf lol

Kyuukai

00:18:306 - carful there. Timing point act like a 1.00x inherited point. Your slow down green line 00:00:957 - does not affect the following objects!
00:18:306 - I woudl recommend a slow continous drop in sv for all the red points aswell. I think it fits well to the atmosphere of this section in particular. https://puu.sh/waF8v/a581cc8b3c.png (same as extra)
00:44:279 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - Add a NC soemhwer in here (like 00:46:236 (8) - or something). 11 note combo for an insane is kinda a lot xD
My biggest concern is the spacing in yout kiai.
01:02:540 (1,2,3,4,5) - you go from very low spaced (lower than prechorus even) and then go full ham with 01:04:008 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) -. And then you keep that spacing which is fine i guess. (01:12:975 (1,2,3,4,5) - spaced). Remap 01:02:540 (1,2,3,4,5) - with a fitting amount of distance between the objects so everythign is in unity here.
01:14:116 (1,2,3,4) - 01:18:518 (2,3,4) - 01:19:986 (4,5,6) - and suddenly pussy level spacing again... wtf
-
01:09:062 (1) - this shape looks kinda meh to me. maybe do this https://puu.sh/waHpo/0e2c7fe927.png so it slightly implies a blanket with 01:10:040 (4) -
01:12:160 (3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5) - you can make this stream look prettier :< lok for inspiration in other maps if you cant seem to find a better way. People have developed some nice ways to make good looking streams...

bor

people still think overkilling a map with sv changes is cool, lol

00:29:442 (3,4) - whats the deal with the sudden full stack? You never do this ever again so why introduce a confusing concept like this when you are not going to use it ever
00:49:008 (3,1) - have some filler here just like 00:51:616 (3,4,5,1) - . The gap felt awkward to me since you do this sv buildup and then suddenly nothing..
00:57:160 (1) - The normal whistle feels out of place imo
01:19:986 (1,1,2) - I thought i understood what you were going for but then this... I dont understand how this fits with the style of the map. try ctrl+g 01:19:986 (1) -
01:28:138 (5,6,7) - this feels like a very weak finish concidering the way the rest of the map is spaced and emphasised

imo the sv change gimmick is too confusing at times. Its not clear what the player should focus when playing or maybe he should just mute the song all together. Played it like 4 times so i could mod it and then i had enough...

i hope you dont pussy out from my map like some others did lol.

Realazy

Elite Mapper

1,004 posts

Joined June 2011

Topic Starter

Realazy 2017-06-06T23:51:52+00:00

Smokeman wrote:
m4m from your q

Extra
00:34:497 (3) - put a proper noticable angle on it or make it straight. this is slightly triggering https://puu.sh/waFtu/71d531afb5.png please lol this is barely noticeable in game
00:34:986 (4,5,6,2,3) - the way these are stacked is the same (auto stacking from the editor) Try using different custom stacking methods so they are a bit clearer. mm idk i don't think it's that much of an issue, you can easily tell by the approach circles that the second pattern isn't a 1/4 double
01:04:986 (7,8,1) - let the triplet flow into the curvature of the slider curve?? it already plays pretty well like this though, it's so small that a flow difference here wouldn't mean much
01:08:084 (2,3) - These look ever so slightly off... cant you copy paste one over the other (not to mention the fucking 0.5° angle... why...) they aren't off, i just flipped 2 horizontally instead of perfectly mirroring it because i like doing that
01:09:551 (2,4) - see you can make straight sliders... lol pls
the whole kiai is an aesthetical mess to me... ehh

i hope you dont pussy out from my map like some others did lol. why would i tho

thanks, anything not mentioned was fixed

dhpenguin7

dhpenguin7 2017-06-07T21:49:43+00:00

really like the song, gl

Kyuukai

1,511 posts

Joined December 2014

Kyuukai 2017-06-08T18:03:15+00:00

Smokeman wrote:
Kyuukai

00:18:306 - carful there. Timing point act like a 1.00x inherited point. Your slow down green line 00:00:957 - does not affect the following objects! I know, but it's ok since the bpm is lower, so the SV lowers too
00:18:306 - I woudl recommend a slow continous drop in sv for all the red points aswell. I think it fits well to the atmosphere of this section in particular. https://puu.sh/waF8v/a581cc8b3c.png (same as extra)
00:44:279 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - Add a NC soemhwer in here (like 00:46:236 (8) - or something). 11 note combo for an insane is kinda a lot xD alright xd
My biggest concern is the spacing in yout kiai.
01:02:540 (1,2,3,4,5) - you go from very low spaced (lower than prechorus even) and then go full ham with 01:04:008 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) -. And then you keep that spacing which is fine i guess. (01:12:975 (1,2,3,4,5) - spaced). Remap 01:02:540 (1,2,3,4,5) - with a fitting amount of distance between the objects so everythign is in unity here. changed some things
01:14:116 (1,2,3,4) - 01:18:518 (2,3,4) - 01:19:986 (4,5,6) - and suddenly pussy level spacing again... wtf Well right here, it fits the voice pitch lo
01:09:062 (1) - this shape looks kinda meh to me. maybe do this https://puu.sh/waHpo/0e2c7fe927.png so it slightly implies a blanket with 01:10:040 (4) - k
01:12:160 (3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5) - you can make this stream look prettier :< lok for inspiration in other maps if you cant seem to find a better way. People have developed some nice ways to make good looking streams... well, don't think it's a problem xd

anna apple

1,245 posts

Joined March 2014

anna apple 2017-06-08T22:30:59+00:00

Smokeman wrote:
bor

people still think overkilling a map with sv changes is cool, lol remapped cuz super old and I realized it was bad lol

00:57:160 (1) - The normal whistle feels out of place imo start of strong vocal and piano line (big boy change in music so why not)

r e m a p

SnowNiNo_

Elite Mapper: Aspirant

2,106 posts

Joined April 2013

SnowNiNo_ 2017-06-09T13:26:59+00:00

M4M

[Extra]

00:06:740 (1) - prob do sth like 00:12:523 - to stay consistent, since ur missing a vocal sound at 00:07:101 -
00:43:627 - should get emphasized with more spacing
00:48:518 (2) - sliderend isnt snapped
00:51:127 (2) - sliderend isnt snapped
00:51:779 (4) - i would prefer ctrl + g here
00:57:323 - well since the sound at every sliderend are different then the previous sound, i suggest use notes instead of sliderend to express the sound, https://puu.sh/wffH8/c786864699.jpg
01:06:453 (1) - ctrl + j would make the flow more smoother to play, try it xd
01:12:975 (1) - this sound should get more emphasized since the cymbol sound, is like lol the spacing 01:12:975 (1,2) - should be larger then 01:12:812 (9,1) -

[Linada's Extra]

00:43:953 (3) - probably need nc for consistency
01:20:801 - NC on every white tick here to stay consistent with 01:22:105 -
G

[Kyuukai's Insane]

00:09:631 (5) - NC'
01:12:160 - ctrl + h would make the stream of the flow more smoother and also give a nic emphasis on 01:12:975 (1) - , try it xd
01:15:502 - undermapped, should be a triplet here
01:21:290 (1) - pretty unnecessary NC imo, the vocal isnt dat intense to get emphasis, and the sturcture u used here isnt necessary to NC either, instead u should NC 01:22:105 (4) -
01:24:714 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - could make a triangle to make the pattern looks more nice https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8301149
01:27:323 (5) - NC
01:27:812 (7) - since is a 1/1 gap here, should probably spaced more or NC this notes to make the separation from 1/2 to 1/1 more clear

[bor's Insane]

00:46:725 - use a note here instead would give a great impact in gameplay, 2 reverse cant rly express the intensity here
00:57:323 (1) - since is a 1/2 gap, i suggest to spaced out a bit
01:00:910 (5) - NC
01:19:660 (2) - same as 00:46:725 -
01:28:138 (6) - although is all stacked, ill still suggest NC for emphasis the music here

Kyuukai

1,511 posts

Joined December 2014

Kyuukai 2017-06-09T17:25:55+00:00

SnowNiNo_ wrote:
[Kyuukai's Insane]
00:09:631 (5) - NC'
01:12:160 - ctrl + h would make the stream of the flow more smoother and also give a nic emphasis on 01:12:975 (1) - , try it xd
01:15:502 - undermapped, should be a triplet here
01:21:290 (1) - pretty unnecessary NC imo, the vocal isnt dat intense to get emphasis, and the sturcture u used here isnt necessary to NC either, instead u should NC 01:22:105 (4) -
01:24:714 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - could make a triangle to make the pattern looks more nice https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8301149
01:27:323 (5) - NC
01:27:812 (7) - since is a 1/1 gap here, should probably spaced more or NC this notes to make the separation from 1/2 to 1/1 more clear

all fixed xddd thanks

im gya

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Lami

1,756 posts

Joined June 2011

Lami 2017-06-11T02:39:26+00:00

n

01:28:464 - 1/2 rhythm is not problem. but this beat is more pretty clickable beat than 01:28:301 -

a

00:02:402 (1) - 00:05:294 (1) - i think it can remove nc
01:17:377 (2,3) - rhythm ctrl+g

h

00:10:354 - circle? blue tick end slider kinda weird since there is small vocal, i think
00:39:062 (5) - nc

cs4 i

01:05:638 - why did u start new slider at here?
white rhythm tick slider is more generally better i think.
01:15:421 (5) - over-hitsounding
01:19:334 - same ^
01:27:649 - need circle

gd x

00:43:464 (3,4,1) - noticable DS mistake

x

aimod

00:16:679 - circle, since this section was followed to mainly vocal.
00:29:279 (3) - bit weird 1/1 gap rhythm usage, maybe two circle is better way.
slider-slider 1/1 rhythm gap is weird for playing imo.
01:03:682 (1,5) - stack, cuz 01:04:171 (3,5) - too closed
01:27:975 - make circle? there is drum. and it's moremore funnnnnnnny. reference) 01:23:736 (1) - 01:25:040 (1) -
01:27:812 (2) - finish

Kin

2,618 posts

Joined August 2010

Kin 2017-06-11T05:25:37+00:00

Lami wrote:
h

00:10:354 - circle? blue tick end slider kinda weird since there is small vocal, i think the vocal is really hard to hear, so I prefer to ignore it
00:39:062 (5) - nc fixed

thanks for mod!

Hard Update

osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: audio.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 62450
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 1

[Editor]
Bookmarks: 957,26010,36444,46879,56009,59923,62531,72966,80792,88455
DistanceSpacing: 1.6
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 1.7

[Metadata]
Title:Zoetrope
TitleUnicode:Zoetrope
Artist:yanaginagi
ArtistUnicode:やなぎなぎ
Creator:Realazy
Version:Kin's Hard
Source:AMNESIA
Tags:Akitoshi pyroflayer borborygmos bor yaleufeu Kyuukai Linada Kin エウアル euaru アムネシア opening
BeatmapID:1273585
BeatmapSetID:599195

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:5.2
CircleSize:3.8
OverallDifficulty:6.2
ApproachRate:7.4
SliderMultiplier:1.52
SliderTickRate:1

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anna apple

1,245 posts

Joined March 2014

anna apple 2017-06-11T06:55:43+00:00

SnowNiNo_ wrote:
[bor's Insane]
00:46:725 - use a note here instead would give a great impact in gameplay, 2 reverse cant rly express the intensity here notes come in pairs so this change would be bad. also its a hold because there is a long tone vocal.
00:57:323 (1) - since is a 1/2 gap, i suggest to spaced out a bit it follows the localized DS and has an NC, easy to read.
01:00:910 (5) - NC its still a part of the phrase for 00:59:932 (1,2,3,4) -
01:19:660 (2) - same as 00:46:725 - same
01:28:138 (6) - although is all stacked, ill still suggest NC for emphasis the music herenc would do the opposite from emphasis since it would make it easier.

Realazy

Elite Mapper

1,004 posts

Joined June 2011

Topic Starter

Realazy 2017-06-11T16:35:14+00:00

SnowNiNo_ wrote:
[Extra]
00:43:627 - should get emphasized with more spacing idk i think a triple here is fine, i want to keep all 3 notes clickable and it'd look silly to increase the spacing here
00:57:323 - well since the sound at every sliderend are different then the previous sound, i suggest use notes instead of sliderend to express the sound, https://puu.sh/wffH8/c786864699.jpg i did circle -> slider instead to emphasize the stronger piano sounds
01:06:453 (1) - ctrl + j would make the flow more smoother to play, try it xd i prefer how it looks now, it's not a huge difference in playability i think
01:12:975 (1) - this sound should get more emphasized since the cymbol sound, is like lol the spacing 01:12:975 (1,2) - should be larger then 01:12:812 (9,1) - idk what you mean here i guess i made 9>1 bigger?

thanks for modding!

all applied @lami

Kyuukai

1,511 posts

Joined December 2014

Kyuukai 2017-06-11T16:48:34+00:00

Lami wrote:
cs4 i

01:05:638 - why did u start new slider at here? changed
white rhythm tick slider is more generally better i think.
01:15:421 (5) - over-hitsounding blame real
01:19:334 - same ^ blame real
01:27:649 - need circle why, im mapping the stronger sounds

ty for modding xd

Linada

993 posts

Joined November 2014

Linada 2017-06-11T17:35:53+00:00

Smokeman wrote:
Linada

00:13:969 (3,4) - how about copy pasting one instead of having slightly off angles? I woudl also recommend to keep the curvy slider in the section like i mentioned above. nah, it would look too empty with 2 slider with same anglme
00:17:402 - mute the tick or silence them in genral. only for this one
Alternatively: 00:16:679 (3) - move the head to the white tick and make it a 1/1 slider. Imo the slider starts a bit too early, since the "ni" start like between the blue and white tick somehow. (on the white tick you would hit the faint background flute-thingy aswell) no since i'm following only the vocals for the intro
00:19:806 (4,5) - up the angle by 2° or something to make the angle difference more noticeable lol why not needed
00:18:306 - carful there. Timing point act like a 1.00x inherited point. Your slow down green line 00:00:957 - does not affect the following objects! fixed
00:18:306 - I woudl recommend a slow continous drop in sv for all the red points aswell. I think it fits well to the atmosphere of this section in particular. https://puu.sh/waF8v/a581cc8b3c.png (same as extra) the bpm changes make the slowdown itself though
00:28:627 (1,2) - move 2 a bit further away from the slider body so you keep some unity distance (see 00:27:160 (1,3) - and following similar patterns) just loosened the blanked lul
00:35:475 (2,3,1,2,1,2) - this pattern is nice for jumps but you could emphasise the drums a bit better. At the moment every objects has nearly the same emphasis althought some of them follow completely differently intense sounds. 00:35:312 - 00:35:801 (1) - 00:36:127 (1,2,1) - these are the most prominent while 00:35:475 (2,3,2) - are more of a fill in rythm which is clearly less noticable. Try changing the pattern up to fit this, there seemingly infinte equally cool jump pattern which respect these properties! just fixed some spacing
00:55:284 (2) - delete this and adjust the pattern to fit a note at 00:55:122 - . If you listen closely you will notice that its a 1-5-5 drumroll pattern. (or somethign like that, note: 00:55:203 - and 00:55:692 - should be the dominant parts of the streams since this is where the snares at) fixed the pattern as just triples; was overmapped lul
01:09:551 (1,1) - slightly confusing. shouldnt 01:10:040 (1) - start 01:09:877 - since the thing which picks up in intensity are the vocals with another one at 01:10:203 -. 01:09:551 (1) - make this shorter and adjust teh rest i guess no the snare is really important there

tbh this should be the highest diff in this set. wtf lol lul

SnowNiNo_ wrote:
[Linada's Extra]
00:43:953 (3) - probably need nc for consistency fex
01:20:801 - NC on every white tick here to stay consistent with 01:22:105 - fex but no nc 01:21:127 (3) - here to match vocal
G D

Lami wrote:
gd x

00:43:464 (3,4,1) - noticable DS mistake oops

thx 4 mods

ya

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SnowNiNo_

Elite Mapper: Aspirant

2,106 posts

Joined April 2013

SnowNiNo_ 2017-06-11T18:41:13+00:00

Realazy wrote:
SnowNiNo_ wrote:
[Extra]
00:43:627 - should get emphasized with more spacing idk i think a triple here is fine, i want to keep all 3 notes clickable and it'd look silly to increase the spacing here lol i actually mean 00:43:627 (6,7,8,9) - should get larger spacing for emphasis, sth like 00:46:236 - or 00:36:127 - , same applied at 00:41:018 -
00:57:323 - well since the sound at every sliderend are different then the previous sound, i suggest use notes instead of sliderend to express the sound, https://puu.sh/wffH8/c786864699.jpg i did circle -> slider instead to emphasize the stronger piano sounds
01:06:453 (1) - ctrl + j would make the flow more smoother to play, try it xd i prefer how it looks now, it's not a huge difference in playability i think
01:12:975 (1) - this sound should get more emphasized since the cymbol sound, is like lol the spacing 01:12:975 (1,2) - should be larger then 01:12:812 (9,1) - idk what you mean here i guess i made 9>1 bigger? yes, since the sound on 1 is intense(cymbol sound), so the spacing 9>1 should get larger then 1>2, the current spacing 1>2 was bigger then 9>1 which make no sense to me xd

Akitoshi

2,684 posts

Joined August 2014

Akitoshi 2017-06-13T13:20:22+00:00

Lami wrote:
a

00:02:402 (1) - 00:05:294 (1) - i think it can remove nc
01:17:377 (2,3) - rhythm ctrl+g

fixed both, thanks!

flat chests are delicious

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Realazy

Elite Mapper

1,004 posts

Joined June 2011

Topic Starter

Realazy 2017-06-14T03:50:23+00:00

okay i fixed both i think @NiNo_

DeletedUser_423548

DeletedUser_423548 2017-06-16T11:45:15+00:00

m4m

[general]

00:00:957 - 00:25:010 - It is disqualified unless Hitsound is attached for more than 10 seconds

[Normal]

00:09:631 (1,1) - I think I can stack
00:28:464 - 00:31:073 - 00:33:682 - 00:36:290 - You can pick up this sound if you are picking up the sound of the drum
00:44:279 (1,2,3) - I see the image looking pretty
img
00:53:410 (3,2) - I think I can stack
01:01:888 (5,1) - The flow is strange
01:01:888 (5) - Ctrl+J slider is good

[Akitoshi]

すごいっす

[Kin]

00:10:354 - 00:11:800 - Why are not you putting any objects?
00:37:432 - You should not ignore this sound
00:39:877 - just like here
00:50:149 (3,4,3) - I think it should be the same
00:55:040 (2,3,4) - The hit sound is not here
00:54:959 - It starts from here
00:56:345 (2) - 00:57:975 (3) - I think I can stack

[borborygmos]

00:02:402 (4,4) - Add NC
00:08:908 (5,1) - Distance is far
00:56:834 (4,5,6,7,8,1) - CS is also small and the arrangement is also below, so this is difficult for players to understand
01:00:910 (5) - It is better to place NC here if you change the distance
01:10:692 (3,4) - Ctrl+G is better

[Kyuukai]

00:29:279 (3) - 00:28:627 (1) - Ctrl+J is better
01:24:062 (1) - remove NC

[Linada]

00:17:944 (5,6,1) - Why do not you keep distance?
00:55:692 (5) - Add NC
01:26:834 (5) - NC 01:26:997 (1) - remove NC

Good luck!

Linada

993 posts

Joined November 2014

Linada 2017-06-16T16:38:52+00:00

fixed all ! thanks

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osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: audio.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 62450
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 1

[Editor]
Bookmarks: 957,26010,36444,46879,56009,59923,62531,72966,80792,88455
DistanceSpacing: 1
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 32
TimelineZoom: 2.699999

[Metadata]
Title:Zoetrope
TitleUnicode:Zoetrope
Artist:yanaginagi
ArtistUnicode:やなぎなぎ
Creator:Realazy
Version:Linada's Extra
Source:AMNESIA
Tags:Akitoshi pyroflayer borborygmos bor yaleufeu Kyuukai Linada Kin エウアル euaru アムネシア opening
BeatmapID:1266406
BeatmapSetID:599195

[Difficulty]
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CircleSize:3.6
OverallDifficulty:8.7
ApproachRate:9.3
SliderMultiplier:1.92
SliderTickRate:1

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//Break Periods
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
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Kyuukai

1,511 posts

Joined December 2014

Kyuukai 2017-06-16T18:08:28+00:00

Yasaija 714 wrote:

[Kyuukai]
00:29:279 (3) - 00:28:627 (1) - Ctrl+J is better changed a bit
01:24:062 (1) - remove NC why, I did the same thing as before
Good luck! ty for modding

Realazy

Elite Mapper

1,004 posts

Joined June 2011

Topic Starter

Realazy 2017-06-16T18:21:19+00:00

Yasaija 714 wrote:
00:28:464 - 00:31:073 - 00:33:682 - 00:36:290 - You can pick up this sound if you are picking up the sound of the drum i could do that, but i want to keep the rhythm simple with mostly 1/1, the only time i use 1/2 is at the very last pattern because it's the climax of the song

thanks for modding!

anna apple

1,245 posts

Joined March 2014

anna apple 2017-06-18T08:58:38+00:00

Yasaija 714 wrote:
m4m

[borborygmos]
00:02:402 (4,4) - Add NC no
00:08:908 (5,1) - Distance is far emphasis
00:56:834 (4,5,6,7,8,1) - CS is also small and the arrangement is also below, so this is difficult for players to understand cs being small helps players read this, never seen miss watching noobs play
01:00:910 (5) - It is better to place NC here if you change the distance nc not based on spacing change
01:10:692 (3,4) - Ctrl+G is better no its not.
Good luck!

forgot to send update a bit ago https://bor.s-ul.eu/4LLbFS9h.osu

Nao Tomori

Nomination Assessment Team

3,089 posts

Joined December 2014

Nao Tomori 2017-06-21T17:02:44+00:00

[extra]
00:03:125 (3,1) - this looks kinda ugly cuz the tail of 3 doesnt point at 1
00:10:354 (3) - {

00:16:137 (2) - i think http://puu.sh/wqxEx/94a5243f07.jpg this rhythm would be cuter to follow the vocals you focused more closely
00:28:627 (1,2) - theres2 guitar notes how about 2 sliders (u repeat this thing a bunch)
00:35:475 (2) - delete this plz

00:35:964 (5) - and this

00:43:953 (8,9,1) - ew random wide angle

00:54:714 (1,1) - these r kinda awkward cuz the instinct (for me at least) was to go left cuz of the kickslider
how about making them circles instead

00:57:486 (2) - u can delete the head of all fo these repeats cuz the strongest piano is n the white tick..

01:04:660 (5,6) - i think this wud b better as a slider cuz its like the matching vocal to 01:04:334 (4) -

01:12:975 (1) - 2 circles plz

01:14:442 (2,3,4) - ctrl g rhythm

01:16:562 (4,1,2) - ctrl g rhythm

01:17:214 (3,4,5) - ctrl g rhythm

01:26:508 (5) - too small for anime

01:27:649 (3) - too big for anime cuz no melody note here imo

[linada]
00:16:679 (4) - technically unrankable but yolo

00:30:747 (2) - delet

00:35:964 (2) - delet
that entire sectin is based on 1/1 gaps in drum u cant just ignore the most mportant 1 -_

01:19:986 (3,1,1) - visual spacing plz

01:20:964 (2) - delet
01:21:453 (2) - delet

[kyuukai's insane]

00:03:848 (1) - fix this lo
00:44:279 (1,3) - this is rly ugly

00:51:290 (6,7,8,9,10) - why tf is there a bunch of jumps the vocal isnt doing anything special and the drums arent either

00:53:247 (4,5,6,7,8) - ctrl g rhythm to follow vocals better!

01:09:062 (1,2) - too small for anime

01:12:975 (1) - circles plz

01:18:518 (2,3) - making offbeat sliders for the piano would be cute

[phil]
00:45:584 (1) - dont like how this drum on red tick is ignored

01:04:986 (1) - cmon wtf are these, they completely kill the pacing of the rhythm in the kiai and they dont really even follow anything that well cuz the head and body are on vocals but the repeat is on some random drum.. cant u just make it ccircle 1/1 repeat circle?

01:12:649 (6) - dont think this shd b kickslider cuz the drum roll ended
same for 78

01:26:915 - would be cute to map this but dont think it fits with the rhythm at all lol

[kin]
00:00:957 (1,2) - fix blanket

00:10:354 - at least put a 1/1 here lol

00:17:402 - silence this tick like linada did?

00:27:323 (1) - delet (same for all of these theres like nothing there ._.)

00:40:529 (1) - circle + 1/2 plz

00:45:584 (1) - 2 circles plz

00:49:497 (1,2) - blanket plz

[advanced]

01:12:975 - i think u need to add a flow direction change here at least cuz both kiais are jusst all clockwise atm which is kinda boring imo

yea

[normal]
00:13:969 (2) - why is this 1 so fking curve lo

k

lmk when u respond

also mod my map

Linada

993 posts

Joined November 2014

Linada 2017-06-21T17:18:08+00:00

Naotoshi wrote:
[linada]
00:16:679 (4) - technically unrankable but yolo fix

00:30:747 (2) - delet spacing

00:35:964 (2) - delet spacing
that entire sectin is based on 1/1 gaps in drum u cant just ignore the most mportant 1 -_

01:19:986 (3,1,1) - visual spacing plz i tried

01:20:964 (2) - delet spacing
01:21:453 (2) - delet spacing

spacing

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Kyuukai

1,511 posts

Joined December 2014

Kyuukai 2017-06-21T17:19:14+00:00

Naotoshi wrote:
[kyuukai's insane]

00:03:848 (1) - fix this lo yes sir
00:44:279 (1,3) - this is rly ugly I made it uglier

00:51:290 (6,7,8,9,10) - why tf is there a bunch of jumps the vocal isnt doing anything special and the drums arent either idk, changed

00:53:247 (4,5,6,7,8) - ctrl g rhythm to follow vocals better! ye

01:09:062 (1,2) - too small for anime i like animes

01:12:975 (1) - circles plz I've always made a slider to start up a big white tick, would be unconsistant to do that

01:18:518 (2,3) - making offbeat sliders for the piano would be cute ye

ty for modding pls bubble my maps

Last edited by Kyuukai 2017-06-21T18:00:37+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Akitoshi

2,684 posts

Joined August 2014

Akitoshi 2017-06-21T17:59:10+00:00

@Nao i tried, i hope this should be fine w

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osu file format v14

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ArtistUnicode:やなぎなぎ
Creator:Realazy
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Tags:Akitoshi pyroflayer borborygmos bor yaleufeu Kyuukai Linada Kin エウアル euaru アムネシア opening
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Kin

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Kin 2017-06-21T19:49:11+00:00

Yasaija 714 wrote:

[Kin]
00:10:354 - 00:11:800 - Why are not you putting any objects? I explained it arleady many time.
00:37:432 - You should not ignore this sound I can, because I'm not following the vocal here.
00:39:877 - just like here here is mostly, click the kick
00:50:149 (3,4,3) - I think it should be the same I don't think so, I get less emphasis on this 00:51:453 (3) - by changing it into 2 1/2 slider. won't feel like holding the vocal while following the drum
00:55:040 (2,3,4) - The hit sound is not here
00:54:959 - It starts from here it does start earlier, but still finish here. And I won't use 5plet on Hard
00:56:345 (2) - 00:57:975 (3) - I think I can stack I wasn't aiming the stack here

Naotoshi wrote:
[kin]
00:00:957 (1,2) - fix blanket
should be alright now
00:10:354 - at least put a 1/1 here lol
nope, I already stated I prefer to ignore the reallyyyyyy soft vocal here.
00:17:402 - silence this tick like linada did?

00:27:323 (1) - delet (same for all of these theres like nothing there ._.)
there's actually something, blame bad hitsounding from Real
00:40:529 (1) - circle + 1/2 plz it isn't following the drum

00:45:584 (1) - 2 circles plz I can understand for this one, tho 00:46:236 (3,4,5,6,1) - . With this spam 1/2 circle, I still prefer to kee p it as slider. So the diff won't be too hard

00:49:497 (1,2) - blanket plz
eeeh, that's nazi. Should be alright now :c

thanks for mod!

About hitsounding, I'm reworking Real's hitsound, cuz he suck :c

anna apple

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Joined March 2014

anna apple 2017-06-22T03:36:46+00:00

Naotoshi wrote:
[phil]
00:45:584 (1) - dont like how this drum on red tick is ignored I also ignore 00:44:768 - and 00:45:095 - becuase I'm going for a vocal focused rhythm, since vocals are pretty essential to the design of sliders also.

01:04:986 (1) - cmon wtf are these, they completely kill the pacing of the rhythm in the kiai and they dont really even follow anything that well cuz the head and body are on vocals but the repeat is on some random drum.. cant u just make it ccircle 1/1 repeat circle? I'm trying for vocal focus, but also don't know and adequate solution to this. Like its prolly not the best but it's working for what the map is based on. also 01:07:758 (1) - works alright so idk.

01:12:649 (6) - dont think this shd b kickslider cuz the drum roll ended the drum roll exists in a lower pitch.
same for 78

01:26:915 - would be cute to map this but dont think it fits with the rhythm at all lol yeah lol would defeat the purpose of perfect stacks idea

_Meep_

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_Meep_ 2017-06-22T03:42:31+00:00

gl bois
i love dis song lo

Realazy

Elite Mapper

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Realazy 2017-06-23T20:01:42+00:00

Naotoshi wrote:
[extra]
00:10:354 (3) - { thanks for noticing

00:28:627 (1,2) - theres2 guitar notes how about 2 sliders (u repeat this thing a bunch) yea there are but considering the other instruments id like to keep this as 1/1 since the sliderhead and tail both land on those guitar notes anyway

00:35:964 (5) - and this the other one made sense but im pretty sure theres a kick here, anyway i think having this note here gives more emphasis to the snares after

01:04:660 (5,6) - i think this wud b better as a slider cuz its like the matching vocal to 01:04:334 (4) - dont rly wanna skip snares here since basically all of them are clickable in the map

01:14:442 (2,3,4) - ctrl g rhythm

01:16:562 (4,1,2) - ctrl g rhythm

01:17:214 (3,4,5) - ctrl g rhythm
yea did variations of those to keep some snares clickable for consistency but i think they follow vocals better than what i had before

also renamed linada's diff to expert because yolo
kyuukai stays insane because i have no inspiriation lo

_Meep_ wrote:
gl bois
i love dis song lo

thank

Nao Tomori

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Nao Tomori 2017-06-25T04:05:08+00:00

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Natsu

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Natsu 2017-07-27T22:39:11+00:00

Add hitsounds

Extra

00:16:679 (3,4,5,6,1) - spacing looks too similar, either stack 5,6 and 1 or adjust the spacing
00:36:444 (1,2) - blanket is off
01:01:390 (4,1,2,3) - this stacks looks so bad, because of the stack leniency from 1 2 3, use a manual stack instead.
01:26:825 (1,2,3,4,1) - this jump angle looks super uncomfortable to play, also you didn't used any similar in the rest xd

Linada

01:01:879 (1,2) - using whistles here doesn't makes sense with the music.

Kyuukai

01:15:086 (4,5,1) - spacing is too similar for different gaps

Bor

00:57:314 (1) - eh this almost kill my ears, can you add a hitsound that fit the music better?

Kin

00:09:631 (7) - this should be a NC according to your NC pattern.
00:10:354 - makes no sense to ignore this beat, since you are following the vocals.
00:17:583 - there is an audible beat here, so the 5% volume don't fit
OD 6

Akitoshi

Add hitsounds

Normal

Add hitsounds

If the bold things are fixed you can call me back after this gets rebub

Realazy

Elite Mapper

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Realazy 2017-08-01T17:29:29+00:00

fixed everything on my diffs + kyuukai and akitoshi, will wait for bor kin and linada to reply

Kin

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Kin 2017-08-01T17:34:51+00:00

Natsu wrote:
00:09:631 (7) - this should be a NC according to your NC pattern. fixed
00:10:354 - makes no sense to ignore this beat, since you are following the vocals. I'll state it again & again. Ofc I'm following the vocal, but her wo from the vocal is soooooo soft, it's almost inaudible because the "to" from the vocal is way harder. Her "wo" really feel like an extension to her "to"
00:17:583 - there is an audible beat here, so the 5% volume don't fit. Moved the greenline here 00:17:764 - 1/4 earlier
OD 6 I don't mind fixing it, but 6.2 is actually better between Advanced (4.5) & bor's Insane (8)

Thanks for checking! \o
But I won't fix your 2nd point. Really. sorry

Natsu

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Natsu 2017-08-01T17:41:03+00:00

Kin wrote:
Natsu wrote:
[list]
[*]00:10:354 - makes no sense to ignore this beat, since you are following the vocals. I'll state it again & again. Ofc I'm following the vocal, but her wo from the vocal is soooooo soft, it's almost inaudible because the "to" from the vocal is way harder. Her "wo" really feel like an extension to her "to" calling it almost inaudible isn't right, it's clearly audible at normal speed and everyone else mapped it, alteast map it as slider tail, also you mapped softer beats before..
Thanks for checking! \o
But I won't fix your 2nd point. Really. sorry, that's up to you, since is your map, but I don't agree with it tbh

Kin

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Kin 2017-08-01T17:53:54+00:00

Natsu wrote:
you mapped softer beats before..

true, but I'm mainly based on the fact her wo is almost hidden from her to because it's way too similar. Even her shimata here 00:04:932 - is more audible, since it's easier to make difference between the end of her ta here 00:04:390 - & the "reverb" shimata

that's why it's currently mapped this way, or not mapped this way

anna apple

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anna apple 2017-08-02T00:24:54+00:00

It can be weird when syllables are slurred. Controversial about when mapping all syllables or trying to avoid the slurred ones. I used to do that, and eventually I found maps to be more true to music when mapping the syllables since most people can't care for slurring.

Linada

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Linada 2017-08-02T00:55:35+00:00

Fix for me real please!

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