I just gained like 600pp ill take that.
Oh only if it were so easy.
Oh only if it were so easy.
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it updated for me lolthregium wrote:
When will you update below 10k player's scores?
Thanks for this!
I have a question. How has FL been accounted for here? Considering reading is a factor in pp+ I expected more boost on FL scores.
I have a question. How has FL been accounted for here? Considering reading is a factor in pp+ I expected more boost on FL scores.
fl isn't reading, fl is memorising
Really thanks for demostrating that 97% HR accuracy isn't shit tier compared to the actual PPv2.
Not used to do plays of that type, but I feel that I got much better rewarded for doing solid streams of 190 and 210 bpm in a pair of cases in which I ended with 97% accuracy and Full Combo.
Not used to do plays of that type, but I feel that I got much better rewarded for doing solid streams of 190 and 210 bpm in a pair of cases in which I ended with 97% accuracy and Full Combo.
Not perfect but I love how some of my plays that I consider impressive but had a really poor reward in ppv2 suddenly show up very high in comparison.
For example this map as my highest rating for Aim (total), Aim (flow) and Precision: https://syrin.me/pp+/b/241143/ giving me only 145pp in ppv2 which I always considered terribly underrated.
Or maps like this showing up at all: https://osu.ppy.sh/b/127291
It also shows Stamina and Speed as my weak points which is definitely accurate.
good job
For example this map as my highest rating for Aim (total), Aim (flow) and Precision: https://syrin.me/pp+/b/241143/ giving me only 145pp in ppv2 which I always considered terribly underrated.
Or maps like this showing up at all: https://osu.ppy.sh/b/127291
It also shows Stamina and Speed as my weak points which is definitely accurate.
good job
Have you guys considered approaching peppy/the dev team with this?
UnNVus wrote:
Have you guys considered approaching peppy/the dev team with this?
/u/pepppppy wrote:
Considered submitting such a system upstream as a revision of the actual pp system? We've always been open to proposals for changes to pp.
disclaimer: i haven't checked into the formula for this approach at all, just passing by.
edit: oh it's closed source without any specific details of how calculations are done. you might want to consider more transparency.
Oh nice, I guess I missed that earlier. mb./u/pepppppy wrote:
Considered submitting such a system upstream as a revision of the actual pp system? We've always been open to proposals for changes to pp.
disclaimer: i haven't checked into the formula for this approach at all, just passing by.
edit: oh it's closed source without any specific details of how calculations are done. you might want to consider more transparency.
the site don't show the current rank, eh? i'm currently on rank #5656 and rank #64 in my country, but the site showed my rank when i check the site for the first time.
*pardon my english
*pardon my english
PP+ is a little different from normal PP, it's not showing your old rank but it's showing you your PP+ rank. (you should notice you have an extra 400pp in the PP+ website)Shiv wrote:
the site don't show the current rank, eh? i'm currently on rank #5656 and rank #64 in my country, but the site showed my rank when i check the site for the first time.
*pardon my english
And I think it's going the right direction, lots of high bpm high stamina streamer gets their rank buffed a lot and I've always thought aim is overrated anyway.
Meanwhile jump map farmer like me deranks so hard xddddd
from #173,319 to #22,919 o_O
Well, I like how it is going.
I have seen a map that jumped from a Ridiculously underrated 153 pp in PPv2 to 210 pp at pp+.
Woofle - Major Boss Battle [Insane] +DT 95.20% 210pp
In that map I'm even top #31 and doing it at DT is something frustrating (to not say it's the map with the highest amount of retries I have!)
And yes, from 153 pp to 210 pp is another world of pp. Considering that my top performances starts at 190 pp... this heck which is absurdly difficult is not giving any pp to me in the official system while at this it increases my amount of pp, aim, speed and stamina a bit. Expect that there are a lot of unfairly underrated maps like this one and many others... there are maps massively underrated.
Mmmm... like 219 bpm streams and duplets at OD9.67 doesn't bother.
Glad to see that I got a decent reward for a thing that really costed me a lot while in the official pp that's a 0 pp map even for a 4300 pp player.
Edit: Could you add an option in which you can type for a map's name or ID to see its stats directly? similar to nicks or username but one bar to find a requesting map.
I have seen a map that jumped from a Ridiculously underrated 153 pp in PPv2 to 210 pp at pp+.
Woofle - Major Boss Battle [Insane] +DT 95.20% 210pp
In that map I'm even top #31 and doing it at DT is something frustrating (to not say it's the map with the highest amount of retries I have!)
And yes, from 153 pp to 210 pp is another world of pp. Considering that my top performances starts at 190 pp... this heck which is absurdly difficult is not giving any pp to me in the official system while at this it increases my amount of pp, aim, speed and stamina a bit. Expect that there are a lot of unfairly underrated maps like this one and many others... there are maps massively underrated.
Mmmm... like 219 bpm streams and duplets at OD9.67 doesn't bother.
Glad to see that I got a decent reward for a thing that really costed me a lot while in the official pp that's a 0 pp map even for a 4300 pp player.
You're probably top 50 in your country. The actual system only considers people at top 10k and at top 50 of each country.JigglePhysic wrote:
from #173,319 to #22,919 o_O
Edit: Could you add an option in which you can type for a map's name or ID to see its stats directly? similar to nicks or username but one bar to find a requesting map.
Hi, not sure if that's the right place to post it, let me know if I'm doing something wrong 
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So, today I made a FC on a map which I found hard. I already knew that the current system pp will not give a lot of credit for this score (156 pp). So I didn't really care.
But then I go to syrin and found out that's this score is worth 285PP. Hum... What the heck ?
I really like syrin pp+, but something is wrong here I think lol.
Map : https://osu.ppy.sh/b/808226?m=0
Mod : DT
Diff : Insane
Accuracy : 93.75%
Combo : 387/390 (No sliderbreak)
Current pp system : https://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/8115 ... 181240.png
Syrin pp+ system : https://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/5203 ... 181338.png
.So, today I made a FC on a map which I found hard. I already knew that the current system pp will not give a lot of credit for this score (156 pp). So I didn't really care.
But then I go to syrin and found out that's this score is worth 285PP. Hum... What the heck ?
I really like syrin pp+, but something is wrong here I think lol.
Map : https://osu.ppy.sh/b/808226?m=0
Mod : DT
Diff : Insane
Accuracy : 93.75%
Combo : 387/390 (No sliderbreak)
Current pp system : https://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/8115 ... 181240.png
Syrin pp+ system : https://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/5203 ... 181338.png
Looks like it's giving you a lot of aim points because of Aim Flow. As I've seen 160 of Aim flow in a map is just a madness and really a lot considering it's the weirdest value of all kinds of aim. Also something in that map triggers an explode of Aim flow. In Official PP system Aim Flow value is not considered, also something looks wrong with syrin at there.Vendar wrote:
Hi, not sure if that's the right place to post it, let me know if I'm doing something wrong
So, today I made a FC on a map which I found hard. I already knew that the current system pp will not give a lot of credit for this score (156 pp). So I didn't really care.
But then I go to syrin and found out that's this score is worth 285PP. Hum... What the heck ?
I really like syrin pp+, but something is wrong here I think lol.
Map : https://osu.ppy.sh/b/808226?m=0
Mod : DT
Diff : Insane
Accuracy : 93.75%
Combo : 387/390 (No sliderbreak)
Current pp system : https://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/8115 ... 181240.png
Syrin pp+ system : https://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/5203 ... 181338.png
I guess that play should have a value of aproximately 185-215's PP wiith that accuracy, but no 285 PP lol. Apart judging the amount of sliders that map would not scale well from accuracy (or at least lower than most DT's) so the FC itself is overrated at Syrin. Something in those patterns triggers Aim Flow so hard which explains that lot of PP at Syrin.
This is awesome I very much enjoy this!
Someone can clean all the not legit players / score submitting from the pp+ data? I'm seeing a bit too many unlegit plays from people that are or banned or that their impressive score got just removed...
Just see the 6th position (player that was banned)
[Germany] BimSchlecht xi - FREEDOM DiVE [FOUR DIMENSIONS] HD, FL 99.16% 757pp
Or the top 1 play by Super Sayain 4 (this one score got removed)
[GB] Super Sayain 4 Ayase Rie - Yuima-ru*World TVver. [Ultimate] HD, NC, FL 86.25% 886pp
Seems you will need to do periodical cleanse to the ladder boards of countries, top plays (and maybe) global ranking as well.
Hope this is not considered necroposting, since the last post was 8 months ago.
Just see the 6th position (player that was banned)
[Germany] BimSchlecht xi - FREEDOM DiVE [FOUR DIMENSIONS] HD, FL 99.16% 757pp
Or the top 1 play by Super Sayain 4 (this one score got removed)
[GB] Super Sayain 4 Ayase Rie - Yuima-ru*World TVver. [Ultimate] HD, NC, FL 86.25% 886pp
Seems you will need to do periodical cleanse to the ladder boards of countries, top plays (and maybe) global ranking as well.
Hope this is not considered necroposting, since the last post was 8 months ago.
Well, this seems it's out of feedback (at least at forums)... will comment about the case of Invictus Tiberius
This is his his profile in pp+ https://syrin.me/pp+/u/1290088/
This is his profile in osu https://osu.ppy.sh/u/Invictus%20Tiberius
He says that pp+ doesn't look friendly to him because his national rank is the same than in osu! but the list of his top performances is much worse than in the official ppv2 ranking.
He's a kind of brute force smasher with okey aim, but his most noticeable virtues is obviously is uncommon levels of stamina and speed being by most people the venezuelan player with best stamina and speed even if he mashes (literally) his laptop's keyboard.
Seems you over-nerfed stamina/aim flow in a very wrong way at making Reign of Fear value less than even the more farmable mostrata's Elmo and Cookie Monster - Cookie-Butter-Choco-Cookie which1 gives more pp's than Apocalyptica - Reign of Fear which not that many have done FC so far...
This is his his profile in pp+ https://syrin.me/pp+/u/1290088/
This is his profile in osu https://osu.ppy.sh/u/Invictus%20Tiberius
He says that pp+ doesn't look friendly to him because his national rank is the same than in osu! but the list of his top performances is much worse than in the official ppv2 ranking.
He's a kind of brute force smasher with okey aim, but his most noticeable virtues is obviously is uncommon levels of stamina and speed being by most people the venezuelan player with best stamina and speed even if he mashes (literally) his laptop's keyboard.
Seems you over-nerfed stamina/aim flow in a very wrong way at making Reign of Fear value less than even the more farmable mostrata's Elmo and Cookie Monster - Cookie-Butter-Choco-Cookie which1 gives more pp's than Apocalyptica - Reign of Fear which not that many have done FC so far...
Hi, sorry if this talk is closed, but i'm really interested in PPv2 and PP+ systems and would understand further how they work. Could any of you give me more precise informations about how are pp calculated for each map on PP+ and how PPv2 does ? I'm trying to do a comparison, in french, of both systems, but i didn't fine any quantitative informations about any of both systems, only qualtitative ones.
Thanks in advance!
PS : if any of you is interested, i also created a french discussion about this ( https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/topics/872870 )
PPS : sorry if my englisch is hardly comprehensible...
Thanks in advance!
PS : if any of you is interested, i also created a french discussion about this ( https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/topics/872870 )
PPS : sorry if my englisch is hardly comprehensible...
yeah..
For pp+, see this: https://twitter.com/KVerto/status/1095755533510950912ThysGuy wrote:
i'm really interested in PPv2 and PP+ systems and would understand further how they work. Could any of you give me more precise informations about how are pp calculated for each map on PP+ and how PPv2 does ?
For ppv2 see this: https://github.com/ppy/osu-performance
