quick irc mod on Normal diff part 2
2017-05-12 19:32 Monstrata: kk updated
2017-05-12 19:32 Monstrata: do rhythms up to 01:13:967 - now
2017-05-12 19:32 Dunois: are you still going through with your ctb diff
2017-05-12 19:32 Dunois: now that youre a ctb bn
2017-05-12 19:32 Monstrata: probably not xD
2017-05-12 19:33 Monstrata: i just did it for fun but
2017-05-12 19:33 Monstrata: i have a lot of maps i need to finish
2017-05-12 19:33 Dunois: lmao
2017-05-12 19:33 Monstrata: and i want to get them all qualified on birthday so
2017-05-12 19:33 Monstrata: xD
2017-05-12 19:33 Monstrata: time to prioritize Z:D
2017-05-12 19:42 Dunois: i probably spent more time on that one diff than any one of my past mapsets LOL
2017-05-12 19:47 Monstrata: yea lmao
2017-05-12 19:57 Monstrata: at least this one will probably get ranked if we can finish the diff in time lol
2017-05-12 19:58 Dunois: how long do i have again\
2017-05-12 19:58 Monstrata: end of the weekend ideally.
2017-05-12 19:58 Monstrata: since i probably need at least 1 week to get the set modded and ready
2017-05-12 20:00 Dunois: ok
2017-05-12 20:35 Monstrata: hows rhythms going
2017-05-12 22:42 Dunois: done
2017-05-12 22:44 Monstrata: okay
2017-05-12 22:45 Monstrata: some changes need to be made. since your incorporation of 1/2 rhythm is a bit awkward
2017-05-12 22:45 Monstrata: 00:53:573 - add circle
2017-05-12 22:45 Monstrata: 00:53:742 (3) - make this a 1/2 slider with a repeat
2017-05-12 22:45 Monstrata: 00:54:079 (4) - delete this
2017-05-12 22:45 Monstrata: 00:54:416 - add a 1/2 slider here
2017-05-12 22:45 Monstrata: (delete this) 00:54:585 (5) -
2017-05-12 22:46 Monstrata: 00:56:270 - add circle
2017-05-12 22:46 Monstrata: 00:56:438 (3) - delete and replace with 1/2 repeat slider
2017-05-12 22:46 Monstrata: 00:57:113 - add a slider here thats 1/1
2017-05-12 22:47 Monstrata: 00:57:787 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - here you had the right idea of copying the rhythm from 00:52:394 -
2017-05-12 22:47 Monstrata: so re-copy the rhythm after you've fixed the above^
2017-05-12 22:48 Dunois: 00:53:068 (2,3,4) -
2017-05-12 22:48 Dunois: this doesnt sound right tho
2017-05-12 22:48 Dunois: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8073238
2017-05-12 22:48 Monstrata: oh
2017-05-12 22:49 Monstrata: lemme give you a better one actually
2017-05-12 22:49 Monstrata: do this:
2017-05-12 22:50 Monstrata: http://puu.sh/vOrvM.jpg
2017-05-12 22:50 Monstrata: a variation you can also do is: http://puu.sh/vOrwv.jpg which is less dense. but lets do that later when the music becomes simpler
2017-05-12 22:52 Monstrata: for 00:55:090 (1,2,3,4,5) - actually mmm
2017-05-12 22:53 Monstrata: do
2017-05-12 22:53 Monstrata: http://puu.sh/vOrEa.jpg
2017-05-12 22:53 Monstrata: rhythm structuring for Normal is actually kinda hard tbh lol
2017-05-12 22:54 Monstrata: 01:00:483 - you can copy the rhythm from 00:55:090 -
2017-05-12 22:54 Monstrata: and then make 01:02:506 (5,6) - 1/2 sliders instead of circles to make it denser
2017-05-12 22:54 Monstrata: hmmm send me update when ur done
2017-05-12 22:58 Dunois: sent
2017-05-12 22:59 Dunois: i acccidentally deleted from 01:03:180 - to where you told me to stop
2017-05-12 23:00 Monstrata: o ok
2017-05-12 23:00 Monstrata: ill just fix for you
2017-05-12 23:00 Monstrata: cuz the rhythm there is a bit complex in terms of balancing 1/2 and 1/1
2017-05-12 23:00 Monstrata: but i'll explain the rhythm choice to you first
2017-05-12 23:01 Monstrata: 00:55:090 (7) -
2017-05-12 23:01 Monstrata: i nc'ed this for you
2017-05-12 23:05 Monstrata: k going to upload now
2017-05-12 23:06 Monstrata: had to copy paste some codes so it took a while
2017-05-12 23:06 Monstrata: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1286618 RADWIMPS - Yume Tourou [Dunois' Normal]]
2017-05-12 23:06 Monstrata: are you on latest version? poke me when you are
2017-05-12 23:07 Dunois: ok yes
2017-05-12 23:08 Monstrata: so first of all
2017-05-12 23:08 Monstrata: you'll notice i never have sliders beginning on red ticks
2017-05-12 23:09 Monstrata: cuz in Normal and low diffs in general, red tick sliders are offbeat and are not good in most cases
2017-05-12 23:09 Dunois: ye
2017-05-12 23:09 Dunois: i actually
2017-05-12 23:09 Monstrata: 01:03:180 (1,2,3) - for stuff like this, i'm following the vocal. you should map stuff like this with the circle + slider stacked
2017-05-12 23:09 Dunois: vaguely remember someone saying that for one of my old mapsets
2017-05-12 23:10 Monstrata: http://puu.sh/vOse5.jpg so this is the kind of patterning you should do
2017-05-12 23:10 Monstrata: for rhythms like this 01:05:877 (1,2,3) - etc...
2017-05-12 23:10 Monstrata: now 01:13:967 (1,2,3) - Here, the same. Normal doesn't have a lot of room for difficulty increase
2017-05-12 23:10 Monstrata: so we'll only space them out once Kiai starts to make the kiai harder
2017-05-12 23:12 Monstrata: 01:15:315 (4,5,6,7) - for this, use a pattern where 4+5 and 6+7 are similar, like basically copy/paste 4+5 and do some rotation/ctrl+H/thing here since they are the same sounds being repeated
2017-05-12 23:12 Dunois: can you send that through discord so i remember
2017-05-12 23:12 Monstrata: 01:11:270 (1,2,3) - probably a good idea to have a triangle pattern
2017-05-12 23:13 Monstrata: okay sent
2017-05-12 23:13 Monstrata: thats about it
2017-05-12 23:13 Monstrata: look through the rhythm I set up
2017-05-12 23:13 Monstrata: and if you have questions pls ask
2017-05-12 23:13 Dunois: should i do rhythm until the end or map what there is so far
2017-05-12 23:13 Monstrata: nah you can start mapping again
2017-05-12 23:14 Monstrata: but before you do, make sure you know why you're using those rhythms,
2017-05-12 23:14 Monstrata: so ask me if you dont know why i made something a circle/slider
2017-05-12 23:14 Dunois: ye
2017-05-12 23:14 Monstrata: other than that, just remember to keep a consistent DS, use good flows, blanket a lot, use lots of triangles etc...
2017-05-12 23:15 Monstrata: map up to 01:03:180 -
2017-05-12 23:15 Monstrata: so in case theres stuff we need to remap we dont have to shift a lot of stuff
2017-05-13 02:07 Dunois: sent
2017-05-13 02:11 Monstrata: 00:57:113 (5,6,1) - poor flow
2017-05-13 02:11 Monstrata: 6>1
2017-05-13 02:11 Monstrata: the visual doesn't match the slider's shape
2017-05-13 02:12 Monstrata: considering slider 1's curve
2017-05-13 02:12 Monstrata: use something like: http://puu.sh/vOxJ0.jpg
2017-05-13 02:12 Monstrata: 00:56:438 (4,5) - spacing is wrong here, and thats probably why the blanket isn't accurate
2017-05-13 02:12 Monstrata: 00:58:798 (3,4) - don't use two different sliders,
2017-05-13 02:12 Monstrata: take one
2017-05-13 02:12 Monstrata: copy paste and ctrl+J
2017-05-13 02:13 Monstrata: also tilt them a bit less
2017-05-13 02:13 Monstrata: http://puu.sh/vOxKX.jpg
2017-05-13 02:13 Monstrata: this is good
2017-05-13 02:13 Monstrata: 00:59:809 (5,6,1,1) - what happened here. dont do overlaps
2017-05-13 02:13 Monstrata: 00:59:809 (5,6) - make it a linear pattern instead http://puu.sh/vOxMh.jpg
2017-05-13 02:14 Monstrata: 01:01:832 (1,2) - fix blanket
2017-05-13 02:14 Monstrata: k send update when ur done if ur still up
2017-05-13 13:08 Dunois: sent
2017-05-13 13:26 Dunois: wait no resent
2017-05-13 13:56 Monstrata: 00:57:787 (1,2,3,4) - you should really give better curves to your patterns too
2017-05-13 13:56 Monstrata: 00:57:450 (6,1) - wooops i mean here
2017-05-13 13:57 Monstrata: do something like this and make a triangle:
2017-05-13 13:57 Monstrata: http://puu.sh/vP23f.jpg
2017-05-13 13:58 Monstrata: for 00:58:798 (3,4,5,6) -
2017-05-13 13:58 Monstrata: http://puu.sh/vP26G.jpg
2017-05-13 13:58 Monstrata: make it look something like this. see how slider 5's approach circle is touching both sliders equally?
2017-05-13 13:58 Monstrata: always try to make placements look equidistant if you can
2017-05-13 13:59 Monstrata: 01:00:483 (1,1,1) -
2017-05-13 13:59 Monstrata: dont use random sliders that you are constructing yourself
2017-05-13 13:59 Monstrata: use one slider
2017-05-13 13:59 Monstrata: and copy/paste it 3 times and use rotation techniques here
2017-05-13 14:01 Monstrata: actually for 01:00:483 (1,2,3) - do something like this: http://puu.sh/vP2hK.jpg
2017-05-13 14:01 Monstrata: you can set this up by first setting up a perfect blanket
2017-05-13 14:02 Monstrata: http://puu.sh/vP2kB.jpg
2017-05-13 14:02 Monstrata: and then copy/pasting both the slider + circle
2017-05-13 14:02 Monstrata: and rotating both of them 120 degrees
2017-05-13 14:02 Monstrata: http://puu.sh/vP2lZ.jpg
2017-05-13 14:02 Monstrata: and then stacking: http://puu.sh/vP2mz.jpg
2017-05-13 14:02 Monstrata: and then copy/pasting both sliders and rotating by 120 degrees to get the 3rd slider
2017-05-13 14:03 Monstrata: yea actually do exactly that so you can practice another mapping technique cuz this is something you should be doing in a lot of maps
2017-05-13 14:04 Monstrata: okay send me update when ur done. right now you're still not incorporating enough visual patterns or consistenties
2017-05-13 14:04 Monstrata: for example: 00:52:394 (1,2,3) -
2017-05-13 14:04 Monstrata: 1 + 2 + 3 can make a straight line and that would improve visuals
2017-05-13 14:04 Monstrata: you can set this up by copy/pasting 1 + 2
2017-05-13 14:04 Monstrata: http://puu.sh/vP2vG.jpg
2017-05-13 14:05 Monstrata: to get the position of 3
2017-05-13 14:05 Monstrata: http://puu.sh/vP2x3.jpg
2017-05-13 14:05 Monstrata: the end result is something cleaner
2017-05-13 14:08 Monstrata: Okay, send me update when ur done fixing. I fixed your stuff myself and i've uploaded it as another diff called "Edited Dunois Normal" so after you're done fixing, send me the code
2017-05-13 14:08 Monstrata: then redownload the map so you can see how i would have fixed it
2017-05-13 14:08 Monstrata: and we can compare
2017-05-13 14:27 Dunois: ok i think i changed everything you said
2017-05-13 14:43 Monstrata: not bad
2017-05-13 14:44 Monstrata: 00:59:809 (5,6) - spacing got messed up here
2017-05-13 14:44 Monstrata: 01:00:483 (1,1,1) - you don't need to NC that many times
2017-05-13 14:44 Monstrata: okay very small fixes, send me update when ur
2017-05-13 14:44 Monstrata: o wait
2017-05-13 14:44 Monstrata: 00:51:697 (5,6) - spacing error here too
2017-05-13 14:44 Monstrata: okay just fix those 3
2017-05-13 14:44 Dunois: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8080791
2017-05-13 14:45 Dunois: ?
2017-05-13 14:45 Dunois: no nc
2017-05-13 14:45 Dunois: oh woops
2017-05-13 14:45 Dunois: i fixed that after i sent it to you
2017-05-13 14:45 Monstrata: o xD
2017-05-13 14:47 Dunois: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8080812
2017-05-13 14:47 Dunois: are notes not allowed to be this close?
2017-05-13 14:48 Monstrata: oh
2017-05-13 14:48 Monstrata: no
2017-05-13 14:48 Monstrata: so you might have to move stuff around some more
2017-05-13 14:49 Monstrata: you could probably move an entire section
2017-05-13 14:49 Monstrata: or move some of the earlier parts
2017-05-13 14:49 Dunois: ya thats what i mostly do when theres stuff about spacing
2017-05-13 14:49 Dunois: l
2017-05-13 14:50 Monstrata: the challenge is keeping a visual flow with 00:52:046 (6,1) -
2017-05-13 14:50 Monstrata: cuz of the curve
2017-05-13 14:51 Monstrata: if it helps
2017-05-13 14:51 Monstrata: 00:51:522 (4,5) - you could try stacking these instead o spacing
2017-05-13 14:51 Monstrata: http://puu.sh/vP5cp.jpg it's not perfect
2017-05-13 14:51 Monstrata: but its acceptable
2017-05-13 14:51 Monstrata: just an idea
2017-05-13 14:53 Dunois: whats the max 2 notes can me spaced
2017-05-13 14:53 Dunois: be*
2017-05-13 14:53 Dunois: for normal
2017-05-13 14:53 Dunois: 0.05?
2017-05-13 14:54 Dunois: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8080864
2017-05-13 14:54 Dunois: also is this finexd
2017-05-13 14:54 Monstrata: make the two linear sliders
2017-05-13 14:54 Monstrata: the same
2017-05-13 14:54 Monstrata: so copy slider 3
2017-05-13 14:54 Monstrata: past it, and scale it down
2017-05-13 14:54 Dunois: ye
2017-05-13 14:54 Monstrata: so theyreparallel
2017-05-13 14:54 Monstrata: also uh
2017-05-13 14:55 Monstrata: 5>6 the angle is kinda bad
2017-05-13 14:55 Monstrata: don't angle it at like 90 degrees
2017-05-13 14:55 Monstrata: http://puu.sh/vP5qB.jpg
2017-05-13 14:55 Monstrata: is good
2017-05-13 14:57 Dunois: ok sent
2017-05-13 15:06 Monstrata: eh
2017-05-13 15:08 Monstrata: can i make some changes
2017-05-13 15:08 Monstrata: 00:58:461 (2,3,4,5,6) - is still pretty bad
2017-05-13 15:08 Monstrata: cuz you dont make use of linear patterns
2017-05-13 15:08 Monstrata: also 2+5+6 is really clumped together still
2017-05-13 15:08 Monstrata: 01:00:146 (6,1) - also spacing etc...
2017-05-13 15:09 Dunois: ok
2017-05-13 15:12 Monstrata: k done
2017-05-13 15:12 Monstrata: i set you up for the next section so you know where to begin
2017-05-13 15:12 Monstrata: also fixed blankets and some triangle stuff
2017-05-13 15:12 Monstrata: small things
2017-05-13 15:12 Monstrata: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1286618 RADWIMPS - Yume Tourou [Dunois' Normal]]
2017-05-13 15:12 Monstrata: updated~
2017-05-13 15:13 Monstrata: 00:59:135 (4,5,6) - i made a linear pattern here., better than no pattern
2017-05-13 15:13 Monstrata: 00:58:798 (3,4) - and i made these parallel instead of Ctrl+H'ed
2017-05-13 15:13 Monstrata: parallel looks nicer with short sliders
2017-05-13 15:14 Monstrata: 01:02:843 (5,1) - and i started the next section for you so you can start mapping with 01:03:686 (2) - etc...
2017-05-13 15:14 Monstrata: Anyways, map until 01:13:967 -
2017-05-13 15:14 Monstrata: remember what i said earlier, map stuff like 01:03:686 (2,3) - to stacks
2017-05-13 15:15 Monstrata: 01:11:270 (1,2,3) - and use a triangular slider pattern here similar to 01:00:483 (1,2,3) -
2017-05-13 15:15 Monstrata: okay that should be all for now
2017-05-13 15:34 Dunois: wait so should i update my map
2017-05-13 15:42 Monstrata: yea
2017-05-13 15:42 Monstrata: update ur map first to latest version
2017-05-13 15:43 Monstrata: since i made some changes
2017-05-14 05:25 Dunois: done
2017-05-14 05:26 Dunois: dunna if youre awake or not xd
2017-05-14 05:26 Dunois: gonna go sleep now tho
2017-05-14 14:03 Dunois: check map i wanna finish :d
2017-05-14 14:03 Monstrata: o
2017-05-14 14:05 Monstrata: wow
2017-05-14 14:05 Monstrata: pretty good
2017-05-14 14:05 Dunois: really
2017-05-14 14:05 Dunois: ?
2017-05-14 14:05 Dunois: :O
2017-05-14 14:05 Monstrata: 01:05:877 (1,2,3) - so, stuff like this, point the slider like this:
2017-05-14 14:05 Monstrata: http://puu.sh/vQ4im.jpg
2017-05-14 14:05 Monstrata: then rotate by 180 degrees from selection center
2017-05-14 14:05 Dunois: to make it linear
2017-05-14 14:05 Monstrata: 01:09:247 (3,4,5) - flow here could be better though.
2017-05-14 14:06 Monstrata: and yes for linear pattern
2017-05-14 14:06 Monstrata: you can try
2017-05-14 14:06 Monstrata: http://puu.sh/vQ4lg.jpg
2017-05-14 14:06 Monstrata: something like this
2017-05-14 14:06 Monstrata: if you can get it to fit this would be the best pattern imo
2017-05-14 14:06 Monstrata: 01:11:270 (7) - NC this
2017-05-14 14:06 Monstrata: 01:10:933 (6,7,8,9,10,11) - nice
2017-05-14 14:06 Monstrata: okay thats all
2017-05-14 14:06 Monstrata: fix those 3 issues i pointed out and send to me
2017-05-14 14:10 Dunois: sent
2017-05-14 14:11 Monstrata: 01:12:618 (3,4,5) - i liked it better when you overlapped them the other way
2017-05-14 14:11 Monstrata: anyways
2017-05-14 14:11 Dunois: flip it?
2017-05-14 14:12 Monstrata: can i fix for you?
2017-05-14 14:12 Monstrata: i think ur setting urself up for a bad pattern
2017-05-14 14:12 Dunois: from 01:12:618 (3,4,5) - right
2017-05-14 14:12 Monstrata: cuz the current angle is kinda sharp, but ur also getting off the screen a bit
2017-05-14 14:12 Monstrata: yea
2017-05-14 14:12 Dunois: ok
2017-05-14 14:12 Dunois: cause the 01:09:247 (3,4,5) - fix i didnt wanna
2017-05-14 14:12 Dunois: wekk
2017-05-14 14:12 Dunois: well
2017-05-14 14:12 Dunois: idk
2017-05-14 14:13 Monstrata: its okay i'll just fix for you im just moving the two circles slightly
2017-05-14 14:13 Monstrata: to set up the next section for you
2017-05-14 14:13 Dunois: ok
2017-05-14 14:14 Monstrata: okay updated
2017-05-14 14:14 Monstrata: redownload so you have my fix
2017-05-14 14:14 Monstrata: map until 01:24:753 - and send me~
2017-05-14 14:14 Monstrata: whewm 40 more seconds
2017-05-14 17:09 Dunois: sent
2017-05-14 17:19 Monstrata: i 100% told you but
2017-05-14 17:19 Monstrata: 01:15:315 (4,5,6,7) -
2017-05-14 17:20 Monstrata: should be together
2017-05-14 17:20 Monstrata: so do something with 4+5 and copy paste it for 6+7
2017-05-14 17:20 Monstrata: 01:18:011 (5,6,7,1) - really jumbled up here
2017-05-14 17:20 Monstrata: 01:17:674 (4,7) - don't overlap
2017-05-14 17:20 Monstrata: you should really use more triangle structure here
2017-05-14 17:20 Monstrata: and more blankets
2017-05-14 17:20 Monstrata: 01:16:326 (7,1) - etc...
2017-05-14 17:20 Monstrata: blankets
2017-05-14 17:21 Monstrata: 01:20:708 (4,5,6) - linear pattern pls
2017-05-14 17:21 Monstrata: 4 is off
2017-05-14 17:22 Monstrata: 01:25:427 (2) - bad position.
2017-05-14 17:22 Monstrata: actually uh
2017-05-14 17:22 Monstrata: thats the next part nvm
2017-05-14 17:22 Dunois: ya
2017-05-14 17:22 Dunois: lo
2017-05-14 17:22 Monstrata: 01:15:989 (6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3) - basically everything here is probably going to need to be remapped into something better
2017-05-14 17:22 Monstrata: you need more copy/paste patterns
2017-05-14 17:23 Monstrata: 01:20:708 (4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5) - stuff like this is good.
2017-05-14 17:23 Dunois: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8091788
2017-05-14 17:23 Dunois: is someting liek this ok
2017-05-14 17:24 Dunois: or should i change it completely
2017-05-14 17:24 Monstrata: Ctrl+J 6+7
2017-05-14 17:24 Monstrata: and its good
2017-05-14 17:24 Monstrata: ctrl+G and fit it back in the pattern, then show me
2017-05-14 17:25 Dunois: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8091803
2017-05-14 17:26 Monstrata: uh
2017-05-14 17:26 Monstrata: what
2017-05-14 17:26 Monstrata: you ctrl+G'ed them
2017-05-14 17:26 Monstrata: CtrlJ
2017-05-14 17:26 Dunois: you said ctrl g
2017-05-14 17:26 Monstrata: J
2017-05-14 17:26 Dunois: w
2017-05-14 17:26 Monstrata: oh
2017-05-14 17:26 Monstrata: yea just Ctlr+J*
2017-05-14 17:26 Dunois: ok yea
2017-05-14 17:26 Dunois: i was like uhh ok
2017-05-14 17:26 Monstrata: so you get parallel pattern
2017-05-14 17:26 Monstrata: err not parallel but symmetrical
2017-05-14 17:27 Dunois: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8091812
2017-05-14 17:27 Monstrata: but now 5>6 is a poor angle
2017-05-14 17:27 Monstrata: http://puu.sh/vQeCm.jpg
2017-05-14 17:27 Monstrata: this
2017-05-14 17:28 Monstrata: then next slider begins below 7 (blanket 7 too)
2017-05-14 17:28 Monstrata: like
2017-05-14 17:28 Monstrata: http://puu.sh/vQeFi.jpg
2017-05-14 17:28 Monstrata: would be nice
2017-05-14 17:29 Dunois: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8091822
2017-05-14 17:29 Dunois: oh yea
2017-05-14 17:29 Monstrata: next
2017-05-14 17:29 Monstrata: something like this:
2017-05-14 17:29 Monstrata: http://puu.sh/vQeIG.jpg
2017-05-14 17:29 Monstrata: to transition out of the clumped pattern
2017-05-14 17:34 Dunois: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8091850
2017-05-14 17:34 Dunois: this ok?
2017-05-14 17:36 Monstrata: mmm
2017-05-14 17:36 Monstrata: i would ctrl+G 6+7
2017-05-14 17:36 Monstrata: actually
2017-05-14 17:36 Monstrata: better to do thisL
2017-05-14 17:38 Monstrata: something like this:
2017-05-14 17:38 Monstrata: http://puu.sh/vQf5T.jpg
2017-05-14 17:38 Monstrata: wider angles
2017-05-14 17:38 Monstrata: instead of using sharp triangular flow
2017-05-14 17:38 Dunois: wait
2017-05-14 17:38 Dunois: where is that
2017-05-14 17:38 Monstrata: i just made that randomly
2017-05-14 17:38 Dunois: timestamp
2017-05-14 17:38 Monstrata: based on ur pattern
2017-05-14 17:39 Monstrata: so ctrl+G 6 and 7
2017-05-14 17:39 Monstrata: then stack the new 7 on the green slider's tail
2017-05-14 17:39 Dunois: then blanket
2017-05-14 17:39 Monstrata: then move the green slider somewhere else or rotate to create another blanket pattern
2017-05-14 17:39 Monstrata: yep
2017-05-14 17:39 Dunois: 1
2017-05-14 17:39 Dunois: ye
2017-05-14 17:39 Monstrata: ideally you can make the green slider's tail also create a triangle with 6>7
2017-05-14 17:40 Monstrata: do you kno whow to set it up?
2017-05-14 17:41 Dunois: i just sent you what i tried
2017-05-14 17:41 Monstrata: http://puu.sh/vQfdI.jpg Blanket first | http://puu.sh/vQfem.jpg Rotate 240 degrees | http://puu.sh/vQffd.jpg stack
2017-05-14 17:42 Monstrata: http://puu.sh/vQffP.jpg copy the two circles | rotate 120 degrees to get triangle
2017-05-14 17:42 Monstrata: http://puu.sh/vQfi2.jpg then create slider
2017-05-14 17:42 Monstrata: http://puu.sh/vQfiO.jpg and then crtrl+ g etc..
2017-05-14 17:43 Monstrata: actually urs is
2017-05-14 17:43 Monstrata: almost perfect so good enough
2017-05-14 17:44 Monstrata: but thats the method basically
2017-05-14 17:44 Dunois: fuk
2017-05-14 17:44 Dunois: i literally just ereased everything
2017-05-14 17:44 Monstrata: its okay
2017-05-14 17:45 Monstrata: uh
2017-05-14 17:45 Monstrata: 01:17:674 (4,5) - this transition is really bad can i fix for you?
2017-05-14 17:45 Dunois: yea
2017-05-14 17:45 Monstrata: theres a really simple way to fix but its really convoluted to explain basically rotate whole pattern and stack and change angles t.c.
2017-05-14 17:45 Monstrata: im making it
2017-05-14 17:45 Monstrata: http://puu.sh/vQfrD.jpg
2017-05-14 17:45 Monstrata: a perfect hexagon pattern like this
2017-05-14 17:46 Monstrata: okay ill upload
2017-05-14 17:46 Monstrata: changes before are good. so just concentrate on
2017-05-14 17:46 Monstrata: 01:19:865 (2) - onwards
2017-05-14 17:47 Monstrata: anyways
2017-05-14 17:47 Monstrata: updated
2017-05-14 17:47 Monstrata: update ur diff to latest version so you can see my change
2017-05-14 17:47 Monstrata: for 01:19:865 (2,3) -
2017-05-14 17:47 Monstrata: i recommend a blanket pattern like this:
2017-05-14 17:47 Monstrata: http://puu.sh/vQfxO.jpg
2017-05-14 17:48 Dunois: also just making sure
2017-05-14 17:48 Dunois: i pluralized it right
2017-05-14 17:48 Dunois: right
2017-05-14 17:48 Dunois: Dunois"
2017-05-14 17:48 Dunois: Dunois'
2017-05-14 17:48 Monstrata: both work
2017-05-14 17:48 Monstrata: Dunois' is best
2017-05-14 17:50 Dunois: for the change
2017-05-14 17:50 Dunois: so next note should be
2017-05-14 17:50 Dunois: http://puu.sh/vQfDC/876524f501.jpg
2017-05-14 17:50 Dunois: right
2017-05-14 17:50 Monstrata: yep
2017-05-14 17:50 Monstrata: if you see the ss i sent
2017-05-14 17:50 Monstrata: thats what you could go fo
2017-05-14 17:50 Monstrata: https://puu.sh/vQfxO.jpg
2017-05-14 17:51 Monstrata: lets you work with the top side of the map
2017-05-14 17:51 Monstrata: you can probably just rotate and ctrl+J
2017-05-14 17:51 Monstrata: the entire rest of the map
2017-05-14 17:51 Monstrata: since the patterns are all good. its just a matter of fitting them in
2017-05-14 17:52 Monstrata: if you want you can do this:
2017-05-14 17:52 Monstrata: 01:20:708 (4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5) - take this whole thing, rotate by 90 degrees
2017-05-14 17:52 Monstrata: then ctrl+J
2017-05-14 17:53 Monstrata: then rotate by -30 degrees
2017-05-14 17:53 Monstrata: would look something like: http://puu.sh/vQfNK.jpg
2017-05-14 17:54 Dunois: OH
2017-05-14 17:54 Dunois: oh
2017-05-14 17:54 Dunois: i blanketed 4
2017-05-14 17:54 Dunois: and then did what you wanted me to do
2017-05-14 17:55 Dunois: so
2017-05-14 17:55 Dunois: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8091959
2017-05-14 17:55 Monstrata: i think
2017-05-14 17:55 Monstrata: its better to do what i did
2017-05-14 17:55 Monstrata: and not blanket here
2017-05-14 17:56 Monstrata: reason being, you get a weird squigly flow
2017-05-14 17:56 Monstrata: http://puu.sh/vQfWP.jpg
2017-05-14 17:57 Monstrata: whereas my way is a cleaner circular flow'
2017-05-14 17:58 Monstrata: want me to just apply this for you? lol
2017-05-14 17:58 Monstrata: so you can just go onto kiai
2017-05-14 17:58 Dunois: ya
2017-05-14 17:58 Dunois: brb i gotta do some stuff
2017-05-14 17:58 Monstrata: kk
2017-05-14 17:58 Dunois: mom has friends over
2017-05-14 18:04 Monstrata: http://puu.sh/vQgkP.txt
2017-05-14 18:04 Monstrata: osu is having server issues. i can't upload
2017-05-14 18:04 Monstrata: so thats the latest version
2017-05-14 18:05 Monstrata: copy/paste it into your current .osu notepad. then do rhythms until 01:40:933 -
2017-05-14 18:05 Monstrata: half of kiai
2017-05-14 20:12 Dunois: sent
2017-05-14 20:15 Dunois: 01:31:326 (4,5) - i think i should change this to 1/2 slider
2017-05-14 20:16 Dunois: same with 01:36:719 (4,5) -
2017-05-14 20:26 Monstrata: hnmm
2017-05-14 20:26 Monstrata: ok
2017-05-14 20:26 Monstrata: 01:26:776 (6) - add a repeat
2017-05-14 20:26 Monstrata: 3/2 gaps aren't good on Normal
2017-05-14 20:26 Monstrata: 01:27:450 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1) - this build up isn't good
2017-05-14 20:27 Monstrata: 01:27:450 (1,2) - 1/1 slider instead
2017-05-14 20:27 Monstrata: 01:28:124 (3,4) - 1/1 circles
2017-05-14 20:27 Monstrata: 01:29:472 (6) - don't do 2x repeats
2017-05-14 20:27 Monstrata: remove one of the repeats. and it'll be good
2017-05-14 20:28 Dunois: and leave it?
2017-05-14 20:28 Dunois: or add a note in place
2017-05-14 20:28 Dunois: also i messed up combos when doing changes so you can show me where you meant by 1/1 cirles
2017-05-14 20:28 Dunois: circles
2017-05-14 20:28 Dunois: *
2017-05-14 20:28 Monstrata: leave it
2017-05-14 20:28 Monstrata: basically use this rhythm:
2017-05-14 20:29 Monstrata: http://puu.sh/vQmIb.jpg
2017-05-14 20:29 Monstrata: 01:31:495 (5,6,7) - Ctrl+G is better
2017-05-14 20:30 Monstrata: two circles after a slider is usually not a good rhythm
2017-05-14 20:30 Monstrata: http://puu.sh/vQmLw.jpg would be good
2017-05-14 20:30 Monstrata: 01:36:889 (5,6) - Same, replace with a 1/1 slider
2017-05-14 20:31 Monstrata: but other than that
2017-05-14 20:31 Monstrata: good
2017-05-14 20:31 Monstrata: make the fixes and send me update
2017-05-14 20:32 Dunois: on twitter did you mean a mapping collab for sparkle or an avatar collab
2017-05-14 20:32 Dunois: i dont wanna be wrong vs jimmy LOL
2017-05-14 20:33 Monstrata: mapping collab lol
2017-05-14 20:36 Dunois: sent
2017-05-14 20:36 Dunois: i think
2017-05-14 20:36 Monstrata: 01:32:843 (8) - add NC
2017-05-14 20:36 Dunois: resent just in case
2017-05-14 20:36 Monstrata: 01:38:237 (8) - NC
2017-05-14 20:37 Monstrata: okay
2017-05-14 20:37 Monstrata: start mapping~
2017-05-14 20:38 Dunois: are you gonna be awake for a while
2017-05-14 20:38 Dunois: LO
2017-05-14 20:38 Monstrata: yea
2017-05-14 20:47 Dunois: i think you can delete
2017-05-14 20:47 Dunois: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1293170 RADWIMPS - Yume Tourou [Edited Dunois Normal]]
2017-05-14 20:47 Dunois: now
2017-05-14 20:48 Dunois: xd
2017-05-14 20:48 Monstrata: oh xD
2017-05-14 20:48 Monstrata: yea probably
2017-05-14 22:07 Dunois: sent
2017-05-14 22:18 Monstrata: 01:26:776 (6,2) - xd overlap
2017-05-14 22:19 Monstrata: 01:29:135 (5,1) -
2017-05-14 22:19 Monstrata: pls never do stuff like this xP if the objects are touching like this its bad
2017-05-14 22:19 Dunois: fk
2017-05-14 22:19 Dunois: end of 5 and 1?
2017-05-14 22:19 Monstrata: 01:30:820 (3,4,5,6) - make them both blanket 6 otherwise it looks really inconsistent
2017-05-14 22:19 Monstrata: yes
2017-05-14 22:19 Dunois: oh yea
2017-05-14 22:19 Dunois: also
2017-05-14 22:19 Monstrata: 01:32:843 (1,2,3) - use blankets, linear looks bad
2017-05-14 22:20 Monstrata: http://puu.sh/vQr4Z.jpg
2017-05-14 22:20 Monstrata: cuz of that
2017-05-14 22:20 Dunois: should i just
2017-05-14 22:20 Monstrata: 01:34:865 (4,3) - same this is too close together, really cluttered
2017-05-14 22:20 Dunois: copy paste the pattern from earlier
2017-05-14 22:20 Monstrata: yes
2017-05-14 22:20 Monstrata: please copy paste more
2017-05-14 22:20 Dunois: ok LOL
2017-05-14 22:20 Monstrata: like what you have from earlier is 100% rankable so if you can, copy paste
2017-05-14 22:20 Monstrata: 01:38:236 (1,2,3) - same
2017-05-14 22:20 Dunois: ok yeah i ll just replace it
2017-05-14 22:20 Dunois: ya
2017-05-14 22:20 Dunois: LO
2017-05-14 22:21 Monstrata: 01:36:889 (5,6) - linear pattern pls
2017-05-14 22:21 Monstrata: 01:37:562 (6,7) - and use a parallel instead of a random angle
2017-05-14 22:21 Monstrata: if theres no pattern make a pattern
2017-05-14 22:21 Monstrata: 01:26:438 (5,6) - poor angle. do : http://puu.sh/vQr90.jpg at least its a neutral angle
2017-05-14 22:22 Dunois: wont it overlap 01:28:124 (2) -
2017-05-14 22:22 Monstrata: 01:34:865 (4,2,3) - create a triangle http://puu.sh/vQraz.jpg
2017-05-14 22:22 Monstrata: yes it'll overlap, so redo the next section or rotate it so it doesn't overlap
2017-05-14 22:23 Monstrata: okay i think thats all... idk. we'll see how you fix it
2017-05-14 22:23 Monstrata: but yea send me update when ur done
2017-05-14 22:26 Dunois: 01:28:124 (2) -
2017-05-14 22:26 Dunois: how can i make it blanket both
2017-05-14 22:27 Monstrata: whats on ur screen
2017-05-14 22:27 Monstrata: screenshot
2017-05-14 22:27 Monstrata: cuz idk what you mean
2017-05-14 22:27 Dunois: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8092996
2017-05-14 22:27 Dunois: thsi
2017-05-14 22:27 Monstrata: o
2017-05-14 22:27 Dunois: this?
2017-05-14 22:27 Dunois: this*
2017-05-14 22:27 Monstrata: u mean 01:32:169 (6) -
2017-05-14 22:27 Monstrata: you had the wrong time stamp
2017-05-14 22:28 Dunois: ya idk why it didnt copy the right one
2017-05-14 22:28 Monstrata: 01:19:023 (7,1,2,3) - see what i did with this
2017-05-14 22:28 Monstrata: same idea
2017-05-14 22:28 Monstrata: so you probably have to ctrl+G slider 3
2017-05-14 22:28 Monstrata: then blanket
2017-05-14 22:28 Monstrata: then ctrl+G it back to normal
2017-05-14 22:50 Dunois: sent
2017-05-14 22:52 Monstrata: 01:32:506 (7,1) - transition isn't good considering the flow of slider 1
2017-05-14 22:53 Monstrata: maybe try this: http://puu.sh/vQscT.jpg
2017-05-14 22:53 Monstrata: 01:39:585 (3,4) - spacing is a bit messed up here,. move 4+5 together
2017-05-14 22:53 Monstrata: okay thats all
2017-05-14 22:53 Monstrata: fixes are good
2017-05-14 22:54 Monstrata: 01:29:472 (6,1) - oh, spacing here is a bit inconsistent too
2017-05-14 22:54 Monstrata: too short this time
2017-05-14 22:59 Dunois: wait i dont know if i fixed 01:29:472 (6,1) - or not yet
2017-05-14 23:00 Dunois: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8093080
2017-05-14 23:01 Monstrata: http://puu.sh/vQsue.jpg
2017-05-14 23:01 Monstrata: if those numbers are close to 1.00 then you're good
2017-05-14 23:01 Monstrata: here i think its fine
2017-05-14 23:05 Dunois: ok well i just sent
2017-05-14 23:05 Dunois: you can check and let me kno i guess
2017-05-14 23:07 Monstrata: oh
2017-05-14 23:07 Monstrata: looks good
2017-05-14 23:07 Monstrata: do rhythms up until 01:54:416 -
2017-05-14 23:08 Monstrata: then
2017-05-14 23:09 Monstrata: for 01:54:416 - and onward
2017-05-14 23:09 Monstrata: literally copy the rhythm you used for 00:52:394 - 01:03:180 -
2017-05-14 23:09 Monstrata: and we're done all rhythms
2017-05-14 23:22 Dunois: sent
2017-05-14 23:23 Monstrata: 01:41:448 - vocal is on red tick
2017-05-14 23:24 Monstrata: so here
2017-05-14 23:24 Monstrata: http://puu.sh/vQtlZ.jpg
2017-05-14 23:24 Monstrata: do this:
2017-05-14 23:24 Monstrata: 01:43:629 (7,8,9) - same idea here
2017-05-14 23:24 Monstrata: 01:45:652 (11) - make this a circle instead, since the red tick is really weak compared to 01:46:158 - which actually has a vocal note
2017-05-14 23:25 Monstrata: 01:47:000 (14,15) - same, move them earlier so its on the red tick
2017-05-14 23:25 Monstrata: 01:48:349 (17,18) - use the same rhythm as earlier http://puu.sh/vQtpv.jpg
2017-05-14 23:25 Dunois: forgot to nc stuff
2017-05-14 23:25 Monstrata: yea
2017-05-14 23:25 Monstrata: holy
2017-05-14 23:25 Monstrata: its so hard
2017-05-14 23:26 Dunois: yeah woops xd
2017-05-14 23:26 Monstrata: ugh
2017-05-14 23:26 Monstrata: appply what i said first
2017-05-14 23:26 Monstrata: then do NC's
2017-05-14 23:26 Monstrata: then send me
2017-05-14 23:26 Monstrata: so i dont get you confused
2017-05-14 23:29 Dunois: sent
2017-05-14 23:29 Dunois: i got confused too
2017-05-14 23:30 Monstrata: yea you got confused
2017-05-14 23:31 Monstrata: 01:41:944 (3,4) - use a 1/2 slider instead
2017-05-14 23:31 Monstrata: 3 clicks in a row is really dense
2017-05-14 23:31 Monstrata: 01:44:641 (3,4) - same
2017-05-14 23:31 Monstrata: 01:47:506 (4,5,6,7) - this is completely wrong just delete it for now
2017-05-14 23:31 Monstrata: take 01:46:326 (1,2,3) - and copy paste it onto the next white tick
2017-05-14 23:31 Monstrata: http://puu.sh/vQtCb.jpg
2017-05-14 23:32 Monstrata: thats more or less the base rhythm you're going to spam
2017-05-14 23:32 Monstrata: since if you listen, the emphasis is White tick, then red tick 3/2 of a beat later, then white tick 3/2 after
2017-05-14 23:32 Monstrata: 01:46:326 - 01:46:832 - 01:47:337 - those are the points of emphasis for example
2017-05-14 23:33 Monstrata: 01:49:697 (2,3) - same idea here. move it 1/2 a beat forward
2017-05-14 23:33 Monstrata: http://puu.sh/vQtEW.jpg this is good
2017-05-14 23:33 Dunois: yeah i did that already
2017-05-14 23:33 Monstrata: 01:52:225 (2,3) - same rhythm as earlier
2017-05-14 23:34 Monstrata: 01:53:068 (4) - could be a 1/2 repeat probably, instead of 1/1 for the red tick
2017-05-14 23:34 Dunois: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8093135
2017-05-14 23:34 Monstrata: http://puu.sh/vQtH5.jpg
2017-05-14 23:34 Dunois: should i change 2 3 to a 1/2 slider
2017-05-14 23:34 Monstrata: nah leave it empty imo
2017-05-14 23:35 Monstrata: otherwise theres too much of a 1/2 chain
2017-05-14 23:35 Monstrata: 01:50:371 (4,5,6,7) - considering this part warlier
2017-05-14 23:35 Monstrata: and then
2017-05-14 23:35 Monstrata: 02:04:360 - add a circle here
2017-05-14 23:35 Monstrata: so its slightly different from earlier
2017-05-14 23:35 Monstrata: xD
2017-05-14 23:35 Dunois: xd
2017-05-14 23:35 Dunois: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8093144
2017-05-14 23:35 Dunois: so this si fine then
2017-05-14 23:36 Monstrata: another option is http://puu.sh/vQtJK.jpg if you want to make the last note clickable, both are fine so its up to your preference here
2017-05-14 23:36 Monstrata: and yea thats fine
2017-05-14 23:36 Monstrata: send me update when ur done fixing~
2017-05-14 23:36 Dunois: ill see
2017-05-14 23:36 Dunois: whatever is better later when i do placements i guess
2017-05-14 23:37 Dunois: snet
2017-05-14 23:37 Dunois: sent
2017-05-14 23:39 Monstrata: nice
2017-05-14 23:39 Monstrata: map until 01:54:416 -
2017-05-15 00:09 Dunois: done
2017-05-15 00:11 Monstrata: ah
2017-05-15 00:11 Monstrata: man
2017-05-15 00:11 Dunois: i think
2017-05-15 00:11 Monstrata: idk about this lemme think
2017-05-15 00:11 Dunois: i knwo what you mean
2017-05-15 00:12 Dunois: LOL
2017-05-15 00:12 Monstrata: see the problem with Normals is
2017-05-15 00:12 Monstrata: when you use 1/2 rhythms
2017-05-15 00:12 Monstrata: its hard to create patterns
2017-05-15 00:12 Dunois: ya
2017-05-15 00:12 Dunois: 01:40:933 (1,2,3,4) - this stuff
2017-05-15 00:12 Dunois: and
2017-05-15 00:12 Monstrata: so i kinda get why you have these ugly long lines of sliders
2017-05-15 00:12 Dunois: 01:46:326 (1,2,3) -
2017-05-15 00:12 Monstrata: congo line of slinders
2017-05-15 00:12 Dunois: this one
2017-05-15 00:12 Dunois: LOL
2017-05-15 00:13 Monstrata: okay i got it
2017-05-15 00:13 Monstrata: we should change the rhythm to avoid this
2017-05-15 00:13 Monstrata: 01:40:933 (1,2,3) - replace with a singl 3/2 repeat slider
2017-05-15 00:13 Monstrata: wait
2017-05-15 00:13 Monstrata: that might not work either
2017-05-15 00:13 Monstrata: slkdjfslkdf
2017-05-15 00:14 Monstrata: ok
2017-05-15 00:14 Monstrata: lemme think
2017-05-15 00:14 Monstrata: cuz like, generally with stuff like this
2017-05-15 00:14 Monstrata: i'll use linear sliders and just use parallel patterns so it actually creates something interesting
2017-05-15 00:15 Monstrata: okay
2017-05-15 00:16 Monstrata: heres something i did: http://puu.sh/vQv5W.jpg
2017-05-15 00:16 Monstrata: 01:40:933 (1,2,3,4) - for this
2017-05-15 00:16 Monstrata: so
2017-05-15 00:16 Monstrata: 01:40:933 (1,2,3) - are like one phrasal pattern, so i made them the same structure more or less
2017-05-15 00:16 Monstrata: but 01:42:281 (4) - is different. its following instrument not vocals. so i use a different stand-alone pattern instead
2017-05-15 00:17 Monstrata: want me to update with this change so you can see?
2017-05-15 00:17 Dunois: ya
2017-05-15 00:17 Monstrata: i think you can build around it, and use a similar idea for the other pattern
2017-05-15 00:17 Dunois: yes
2017-05-15 00:17 Dunois: pls
2017-05-15 00:17 Monstrata: or just copy paste it cuz thats fine. we can call it consistency
2017-05-15 00:18 Monstrata: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1286618 RADWIMPS - Yume Tourou [Dunois' Normal]]
2017-05-15 00:18 Monstrata: kk updated
2017-05-15 00:18 Monstrata: i think
2017-05-15 00:18 Monstrata: 01:46:326 - just fix up until here
2017-05-15 00:18 Monstrata: and send to me
2017-05-15 00:19 Monstrata: cuz this is probably going to require some remapping anyways
2017-05-15 00:38 Dunois: sent
2017-05-15 00:38 Monstrata: 01:43:629 (1,2,3,4) - oh this is pretty cool
2017-05-15 00:39 Monstrata: 01:44:135 (2,5) - this is a bad overlap tho
2017-05-15 00:39 Dunois: i took inspiration from zen zen zense
2017-05-15 00:39 Monstrata: but imo, you should move 5 to where 6 is
2017-05-15 00:39 Dunois: xd
2017-05-15 00:39 Monstrata: http://puu.sh/vQvTd.jpg
2017-05-15 00:39 Monstrata: and then move 6 to the right more
2017-05-15 00:40 Monstrata: 01:46:326 (1,2) - stuff like this. make them the same slider shape so its more consistent visually
2017-05-15 00:40 Monstrata: take one, and ctrl+H it for the other basically
2017-05-15 00:40 Monstrata: 01:47:674 (1,2) - same. You could try two curved, then two cornered
2017-05-15 00:40 Monstrata: 01:51:045 (5,6,1) - really bunched together
2017-05-15 00:41 Monstrata: do something like this. have the slider point away from the pattern
2017-05-15 00:41 Monstrata: http://puu.sh/vQvXA.jpg
2017-05-15 00:41 Monstrata: so you can free up space
2017-05-15 00:42 Monstrata: 01:52:731 (3,4) - theres a 1/1 gap here so no need to clump
2017-05-15 00:42 Monstrata: use more of the area, don't map to the top/left corner when you have to much space on the right
2017-05-15 00:42 Monstrata: okay
2017-05-15 00:42 Monstrata: send me when ur done fixing and we should be good probably
2017-05-15 00:49 Dunois: done
2017-05-15 00:51 Monstrata: 01:47:674 (1) - remove NC
2017-05-15 00:51 Monstrata: okay thats all
2017-05-15 00:51 Monstrata: map until the end
2017-05-15 00:51 Monstrata: 01:53:573 (5,1) - stack is good.
2017-05-15 00:52 Monstrata: 00:52:394 - refer to how you mapped this part of course, since its the same rhythm
2017-05-15 00:52 Monstrata: try and use more blankets
2017-05-15 00:52 Monstrata: you haven't been using them a lot lately cuz of the rhythms
2017-05-15 00:52 Dunois: ye i try to
2017-05-15 01:05 Dunois: done
2017-05-15 01:07 Monstrata: 01:54:416 (1,2,3) - potential for linear pattern
2017-05-15 01:07 Monstrata: try using the heads? slider 1 + 2 + 3 can form a line
2017-05-15 01:07 Monstrata: and then slider 3 can be pointing in that line
2017-05-15 01:07 Monstrata: 01:55:427 (3,4) - and this, maybe use parallel sliders instead. looks better
2017-05-15 01:08 Monstrata: for 01:56:775 (6,1,2,3) - try creating a square pattern.
2017-05-15 01:08 Monstrata: http://puu.sh/vQwOA.jpg like this
2017-05-15 01:08 Monstrata: so theres equidistant space between 01:56:776 (6) - and 01:58:123 (3) -
2017-05-15 01:09 Monstrata: for 02:01:832 (5) - copy 02:00:820 (3) - and rotate 90 degrees so you get a perpendicular pattern
2017-05-15 01:09 Dunois: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8093392
2017-05-15 01:09 Dunois: does this lok right
2017-05-15 01:09 Monstrata: looks good enough
2017-05-15 01:09 Monstrata: yea
2017-05-15 01:09 Monstrata: send me when you've fixed above ^
2017-05-15 01:11 Dunois: ye sent
2017-05-15 01:12 Monstrata: 02:00:820 (3,5) - too close.
2017-05-15 01:12 Monstrata: 01:55:427 (3,4) - could give them a bit more of an angle like : http://puu.sh/vQwWy.jpg
2017-05-15 01:13 Dunois: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8093411
2017-05-15 01:13 Dunois: this fine?
2017-05-15 01:14 Monstrata: mmm
2017-05-15 01:14 Monstrata: do it like this:
2017-05-15 01:14 Monstrata: http://puu.sh/vQwZ5.jpg
2017-05-15 01:14 Monstrata: so its touching the head of 4 and the tail of 3
2017-05-15 01:14 Monstrata: equidistance
2017-05-15 01:15 Dunois: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8093416 ?
2017-05-15 01:15 Monstrata: mmm a bit too low. see how the approach circle overlaps more of 4's head and less of 3's tail
2017-05-15 01:15 Monstrata: talking about the borders
2017-05-15 01:16 Monstrata: http://puu.sh/vQx2B.jpg
2017-05-15 01:16 Monstrata: anyways that should be all
2017-05-15 01:16 Monstrata: then we can go through the whole map
2017-05-15 01:16 Dunois: o for that part i just made it into a triangle
2017-05-15 01:17 Monstrata: o ok
2017-05-15 01:19 Dunois: ok sent
2017-05-15 01:20 Monstrata: okay nice
2017-05-15 01:20 Monstrata: going to go through the whole map now
2017-05-15 01:21 Dunois: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8093416
2017-05-15 01:21 Dunois: woops
2017-05-15 01:21 Monstrata: 00:26:929 (4,1) - so now you know more about flow. you can understand how this might be kinda bad xP
2017-05-15 01:21 Dunois: 00:32:511 (4,1) -
2017-05-15 01:21 Dunois: can make this linear right
2017-05-15 01:21 Monstrata: thats fine i think
2017-05-15 01:22 Monstrata: theres enough of the angle
2017-05-15 01:22 Dunois: ok
2017-05-15 01:22 Monstrata: 00:31:115 (2,3,4) - could be a triangle tho
2017-05-15 01:22 Monstrata: actually hmm
2017-05-15 01:23 Monstrata: tbh what you have is 95% good now
2017-05-15 01:23 Monstrata: so basically as a modder these are the places ppl will point out now.
2017-05-15 01:23 Monstrata: 00:26:929 (4,1) - flow is bad. Use a blanket.
2017-05-15 01:23 Monstrata: 00:31:115 (2,3,4,1) - use triangular placement instead
2017-05-15 01:23 Monstrata: 00:46:813 (1,2,3) - this angle is really poor
2017-05-15 01:23 Monstrata: 2>3 especially
2017-05-15 01:24 Monstrata: 01:18:685 (6,7,1,2,3) - overlap looks kinda bad
2017-05-15 01:24 Monstrata: 01:28:798 (4,5,6) - weird pattern. make them the same angle or something?
2017-05-15 01:25 Monstrata: but yea thats it
2017-05-15 01:25 Monstrata: if you want i can apply them for you
2017-05-15 01:25 Monstrata: since there are easy ways to fix them that won't require remapping
2017-05-15 01:25 Dunois: i fixed one of them
2017-05-15 01:26 Dunois: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8093454
2017-05-15 01:26 Monstrata: okay. send me the ones you can fix, and i'll handle the ones that are causing you to move stuff around too much
2017-05-15 01:26 Monstrata: oh, that works nicely
2017-05-15 01:26 Dunois: ok yea
2017-05-15 01:26 Dunois: ok i sent it to you
2017-05-15 01:27 Dunois: what about hitsounding
2017-05-15 01:27 Monstrata: do you want me to explain how i fix the others so you can understand?
2017-05-15 01:27 Monstrata: and for hitsounding im just going to copy from highest diff
2017-05-15 01:27 Dunois: yes
2017-05-15 01:27 Dunois: wait how does hitsounding work
2017-05-15 01:27 Dunois: dont you have to go through the entire map and use the toolbar on the right
2017-05-15 01:27 Monstrata: yep
2017-05-15 01:28 Monstrata: you go through and add claps, for snares
2017-05-15 01:28 Dunois: huh
2017-05-15 01:28 Monstrata: whistles for instruments (whistles is very complicated)
2017-05-15 01:28 Dunois: then how are you gonna copy it
2017-05-15 01:28 Monstrata: finish for cymbals
2017-05-15 01:28 Monstrata: there are programs
2017-05-15 01:28 Monstrata: basically it'll copy the hitsounding on Hard
2017-05-15 01:28 Monstrata: so if i have a clap on a certain time line
2017-05-15 01:28 Monstrata: it'll apply that clap to whatever is on the next iff
2017-05-15 01:29 Dunois: oooo
2017-05-15 01:29 Monstrata: for example, if i have a whistle on 00:27:278 - on highest diff. it'll add a whistle to 00:27:278 (1) - 's head
2017-05-15 01:29 Monstrata: yea
2017-05-15 01:29 Monstrata: i got someone else to do hitsounds for me cuz im too lazy nowadays lol
2017-05-15 01:29 Monstrata: okay so first
2017-05-15 01:29 Monstrata: 00:26:929 (4,1) - im going ot blanket this
2017-05-15 01:29 Monstrata: http://puu.sh/vQxsv.jpg
2017-05-15 01:29 Monstrata: and i moved 00:24:488 (1,2,3,4) - to the right a bit to give more room
2017-05-15 01:30 Monstrata: 00:27:801 (2) - this creates a weird flow here, so im making this slider an S slider to reset the flow
2017-05-15 01:31 Monstrata: end result: http://puu.sh/vQxvB.jpg
2017-05-15 01:31 Monstrata: 00:31:464 (3,4,1) - going to make these triangles first and not worry about next section
2017-05-15 01:33 Monstrata: 00:30:069 (1,2) - also fixing this blanket cuz the DS is tilting me
2017-05-15 01:34 Monstrata: so then i have somethig like : http://puu.sh/vQxCj.jpg
2017-05-15 01:34 Monstrata: but this causes 00:33:557 (2) - to be really off so im replacing it with a different and more vertical slider
2017-05-15 01:34 Monstrata: http://puu.sh/vQxDd.jpg
2017-05-15 01:35 Monstrata: i set the slider up so its diagonally symmetrical
2017-05-15 01:35 Monstrata: basically Ctrl+> then Ctrl+H
2017-05-15 01:35 Monstrata: for 00:45:418 (3,4,1) -
2017-05-15 01:35 Monstrata: first im going to make 00:45:418 (3,4) - a linear pattern, so i'll point the slider away from 3's slider tail
2017-05-15 01:36 Monstrata: http://puu.sh/vQxGc.jpg
2017-05-15 01:36 Monstrata: then instead of foing upward
2017-05-15 01:36 Monstrata: http://puu.sh/vQxH5.jpg im going to go rightward
2017-05-15 01:36 Monstrata: and create a triangle like this instead
2017-05-15 01:37 Monstrata: and that'll fix the flow cuz now it creates a linear pattern too and removes the sharp angle
2017-05-15 01:37 Monstrata: tbh fixing mods is sometimes like solving a puzzle lol
2017-05-15 01:37 Dunois: lmao
2017-05-15 01:37 Monstrata: you're trying to fix a problem without creating a billion other problems my moving stuff around
2017-05-15 01:38 Dunois: yeah
2017-05-15 01:38 Monstrata: 01:19:360 (1,2,3) - for this. im just going to delete and redo the pattern
2017-05-15 01:38 Monstrata: but im going to map it backwards starting with the 3rd slider
2017-05-15 01:38 Monstrata: so i'll create the blanket first
2017-05-15 01:39 Monstrata: http://puu.sh/vQxLe.jpg then the first slider
2017-05-15 01:39 Monstrata: now i flip it around
2017-05-15 01:39 Monstrata: http://puu.sh/vQxMh.jpg
2017-05-15 01:40 Monstrata: now i'll move the entire 01:20:708 (4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5) - down a bit
2017-05-15 01:40 Monstrata: this is almost good, except now http://puu.sh/vQxNq.jpg is kinda messed up but thats fine since 01:24:753 (1) - is a stand-alone slider
2017-05-15 01:40 Monstrata: if the slider is stand alone, then its easier to manipulate
2017-05-15 01:41 Monstrata: so: http://puu.sh/vQxOX.jpg
2017-05-15 01:41 Monstrata: i curve the slider a bit more and
2017-05-15 01:41 Monstrata: done
2017-05-15 01:43 Monstrata: oh
2017-05-15 01:43 Monstrata: 01:56:438 (5,6) - i'll move this down a bit
2017-05-15 01:43 Monstrata: same idea as 02:01:832 (5,6) -
2017-05-15 01:43 Monstrata: equidistance
2017-05-15 01:43 Monstrata: between the two sliders
2017-05-15 01:44 Monstrata: okay thats all
2017-05-15 01:45 Monstrata: i think nazi modders will now focus on blankets and linear patterns being off etc...
2017-05-15 01:45 Monstrata: but im 95% sure i've covered every other conceivable issue now
2017-05-15 01:45 Monstrata: 01:46:326 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - the only pattern im not 100% sure on is this. since it looks rather messy and feels like more interesting slider designs could have been used, but thats subjective
2017-05-15 01:46 Monstrata: so it's something we'll just have to wait for modders to point out (if they do)
2017-05-15 01:47 Dunois:
2017-05-15 01:47 Dunois: :d
2017-05-15 01:47 Monstrata: alright time to open my queue and get more mods
2017-05-15 01:48 Monstrata: there are some issues with hitsounding on highest diff so
2017-05-15 01:48 Monstrata: im not going to copy yet
2017-05-15 01:49 Monstrata: once i resolve the hitsound issue i'll copy so there won't be issues later
2017-05-12 19:32 Monstrata: do rhythms up to 01:13:967 - now
2017-05-12 19:32 Dunois: are you still going through with your ctb diff
2017-05-12 19:32 Dunois: now that youre a ctb bn
2017-05-12 19:32 Monstrata: probably not xD
2017-05-12 19:33 Monstrata: i just did it for fun but
2017-05-12 19:33 Monstrata: i have a lot of maps i need to finish
2017-05-12 19:33 Dunois: lmao
2017-05-12 19:33 Monstrata: and i want to get them all qualified on birthday so
2017-05-12 19:33 Monstrata: xD
2017-05-12 19:33 Monstrata: time to prioritize Z:D
2017-05-12 19:42 Dunois: i probably spent more time on that one diff than any one of my past mapsets LOL
2017-05-12 19:47 Monstrata: yea lmao
2017-05-12 19:57 Monstrata: at least this one will probably get ranked if we can finish the diff in time lol
2017-05-12 19:58 Dunois: how long do i have again\
2017-05-12 19:58 Monstrata: end of the weekend ideally.
2017-05-12 19:58 Monstrata: since i probably need at least 1 week to get the set modded and ready
2017-05-12 20:00 Dunois: ok
2017-05-12 20:35 Monstrata: hows rhythms going
2017-05-12 22:42 Dunois: done
2017-05-12 22:44 Monstrata: okay
2017-05-12 22:45 Monstrata: some changes need to be made. since your incorporation of 1/2 rhythm is a bit awkward
2017-05-12 22:45 Monstrata: 00:53:573 - add circle
2017-05-12 22:45 Monstrata: 00:53:742 (3) - make this a 1/2 slider with a repeat
2017-05-12 22:45 Monstrata: 00:54:079 (4) - delete this
2017-05-12 22:45 Monstrata: 00:54:416 - add a 1/2 slider here
2017-05-12 22:45 Monstrata: (delete this) 00:54:585 (5) -
2017-05-12 22:46 Monstrata: 00:56:270 - add circle
2017-05-12 22:46 Monstrata: 00:56:438 (3) - delete and replace with 1/2 repeat slider
2017-05-12 22:46 Monstrata: 00:57:113 - add a slider here thats 1/1
2017-05-12 22:47 Monstrata: 00:57:787 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - here you had the right idea of copying the rhythm from 00:52:394 -
2017-05-12 22:47 Monstrata: so re-copy the rhythm after you've fixed the above^
2017-05-12 22:48 Dunois: 00:53:068 (2,3,4) -
2017-05-12 22:48 Dunois: this doesnt sound right tho
2017-05-12 22:48 Dunois: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8073238
2017-05-12 22:48 Monstrata: oh
2017-05-12 22:49 Monstrata: lemme give you a better one actually
2017-05-12 22:49 Monstrata: do this:
2017-05-12 22:50 Monstrata: http://puu.sh/vOrvM.jpg
2017-05-12 22:50 Monstrata: a variation you can also do is: http://puu.sh/vOrwv.jpg which is less dense. but lets do that later when the music becomes simpler
2017-05-12 22:52 Monstrata: for 00:55:090 (1,2,3,4,5) - actually mmm
2017-05-12 22:53 Monstrata: do
2017-05-12 22:53 Monstrata: http://puu.sh/vOrEa.jpg
2017-05-12 22:53 Monstrata: rhythm structuring for Normal is actually kinda hard tbh lol
2017-05-12 22:54 Monstrata: 01:00:483 - you can copy the rhythm from 00:55:090 -
2017-05-12 22:54 Monstrata: and then make 01:02:506 (5,6) - 1/2 sliders instead of circles to make it denser
2017-05-12 22:54 Monstrata: hmmm send me update when ur done
2017-05-12 22:58 Dunois: sent
2017-05-12 22:59 Dunois: i acccidentally deleted from 01:03:180 - to where you told me to stop
2017-05-12 23:00 Monstrata: o ok
2017-05-12 23:00 Monstrata: ill just fix for you
2017-05-12 23:00 Monstrata: cuz the rhythm there is a bit complex in terms of balancing 1/2 and 1/1
2017-05-12 23:00 Monstrata: but i'll explain the rhythm choice to you first
2017-05-12 23:01 Monstrata: 00:55:090 (7) -
2017-05-12 23:01 Monstrata: i nc'ed this for you
2017-05-12 23:05 Monstrata: k going to upload now
2017-05-12 23:06 Monstrata: had to copy paste some codes so it took a while
2017-05-12 23:06 Monstrata: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1286618 RADWIMPS - Yume Tourou [Dunois' Normal]]
2017-05-12 23:06 Monstrata: are you on latest version? poke me when you are
2017-05-12 23:07 Dunois: ok yes
2017-05-12 23:08 Monstrata: so first of all
2017-05-12 23:08 Monstrata: you'll notice i never have sliders beginning on red ticks
2017-05-12 23:09 Monstrata: cuz in Normal and low diffs in general, red tick sliders are offbeat and are not good in most cases
2017-05-12 23:09 Dunois: ye
2017-05-12 23:09 Dunois: i actually
2017-05-12 23:09 Monstrata: 01:03:180 (1,2,3) - for stuff like this, i'm following the vocal. you should map stuff like this with the circle + slider stacked
2017-05-12 23:09 Dunois: vaguely remember someone saying that for one of my old mapsets
2017-05-12 23:10 Monstrata: http://puu.sh/vOse5.jpg so this is the kind of patterning you should do
2017-05-12 23:10 Monstrata: for rhythms like this 01:05:877 (1,2,3) - etc...
2017-05-12 23:10 Monstrata: now 01:13:967 (1,2,3) - Here, the same. Normal doesn't have a lot of room for difficulty increase
2017-05-12 23:10 Monstrata: so we'll only space them out once Kiai starts to make the kiai harder
2017-05-12 23:12 Monstrata: 01:15:315 (4,5,6,7) - for this, use a pattern where 4+5 and 6+7 are similar, like basically copy/paste 4+5 and do some rotation/ctrl+H/thing here since they are the same sounds being repeated
2017-05-12 23:12 Dunois: can you send that through discord so i remember
2017-05-12 23:12 Monstrata: 01:11:270 (1,2,3) - probably a good idea to have a triangle pattern
2017-05-12 23:13 Monstrata: okay sent
2017-05-12 23:13 Monstrata: thats about it
2017-05-12 23:13 Monstrata: look through the rhythm I set up
2017-05-12 23:13 Monstrata: and if you have questions pls ask
2017-05-12 23:13 Dunois: should i do rhythm until the end or map what there is so far
2017-05-12 23:13 Monstrata: nah you can start mapping again
2017-05-12 23:14 Monstrata: but before you do, make sure you know why you're using those rhythms,
2017-05-12 23:14 Monstrata: so ask me if you dont know why i made something a circle/slider
2017-05-12 23:14 Dunois: ye
2017-05-12 23:14 Monstrata: other than that, just remember to keep a consistent DS, use good flows, blanket a lot, use lots of triangles etc...
2017-05-12 23:15 Monstrata: map up to 01:03:180 -
2017-05-12 23:15 Monstrata: so in case theres stuff we need to remap we dont have to shift a lot of stuff
2017-05-13 02:07 Dunois: sent
2017-05-13 02:11 Monstrata: 00:57:113 (5,6,1) - poor flow
2017-05-13 02:11 Monstrata: 6>1
2017-05-13 02:11 Monstrata: the visual doesn't match the slider's shape
2017-05-13 02:12 Monstrata: considering slider 1's curve
2017-05-13 02:12 Monstrata: use something like: http://puu.sh/vOxJ0.jpg
2017-05-13 02:12 Monstrata: 00:56:438 (4,5) - spacing is wrong here, and thats probably why the blanket isn't accurate
2017-05-13 02:12 Monstrata: 00:58:798 (3,4) - don't use two different sliders,
2017-05-13 02:12 Monstrata: take one
2017-05-13 02:12 Monstrata: copy paste and ctrl+J
2017-05-13 02:13 Monstrata: also tilt them a bit less
2017-05-13 02:13 Monstrata: http://puu.sh/vOxKX.jpg
2017-05-13 02:13 Monstrata: this is good
2017-05-13 02:13 Monstrata: 00:59:809 (5,6,1,1) - what happened here. dont do overlaps
2017-05-13 02:13 Monstrata: 00:59:809 (5,6) - make it a linear pattern instead http://puu.sh/vOxMh.jpg
2017-05-13 02:14 Monstrata: 01:01:832 (1,2) - fix blanket
2017-05-13 02:14 Monstrata: k send update when ur done if ur still up
2017-05-13 13:08 Dunois: sent
2017-05-13 13:26 Dunois: wait no resent
2017-05-13 13:56 Monstrata: 00:57:787 (1,2,3,4) - you should really give better curves to your patterns too
2017-05-13 13:56 Monstrata: 00:57:450 (6,1) - wooops i mean here
2017-05-13 13:57 Monstrata: do something like this and make a triangle:
2017-05-13 13:57 Monstrata: http://puu.sh/vP23f.jpg
2017-05-13 13:58 Monstrata: for 00:58:798 (3,4,5,6) -
2017-05-13 13:58 Monstrata: http://puu.sh/vP26G.jpg
2017-05-13 13:58 Monstrata: make it look something like this. see how slider 5's approach circle is touching both sliders equally?
2017-05-13 13:58 Monstrata: always try to make placements look equidistant if you can
2017-05-13 13:59 Monstrata: 01:00:483 (1,1,1) -
2017-05-13 13:59 Monstrata: dont use random sliders that you are constructing yourself
2017-05-13 13:59 Monstrata: use one slider
2017-05-13 13:59 Monstrata: and copy/paste it 3 times and use rotation techniques here
2017-05-13 14:01 Monstrata: actually for 01:00:483 (1,2,3) - do something like this: http://puu.sh/vP2hK.jpg
2017-05-13 14:01 Monstrata: you can set this up by first setting up a perfect blanket
2017-05-13 14:02 Monstrata: http://puu.sh/vP2kB.jpg
2017-05-13 14:02 Monstrata: and then copy/pasting both the slider + circle
2017-05-13 14:02 Monstrata: and rotating both of them 120 degrees
2017-05-13 14:02 Monstrata: http://puu.sh/vP2lZ.jpg
2017-05-13 14:02 Monstrata: and then stacking: http://puu.sh/vP2mz.jpg
2017-05-13 14:02 Monstrata: and then copy/pasting both sliders and rotating by 120 degrees to get the 3rd slider
2017-05-13 14:03 Monstrata: yea actually do exactly that so you can practice another mapping technique cuz this is something you should be doing in a lot of maps
2017-05-13 14:04 Monstrata: okay send me update when ur done. right now you're still not incorporating enough visual patterns or consistenties
2017-05-13 14:04 Monstrata: for example: 00:52:394 (1,2,3) -
2017-05-13 14:04 Monstrata: 1 + 2 + 3 can make a straight line and that would improve visuals
2017-05-13 14:04 Monstrata: you can set this up by copy/pasting 1 + 2
2017-05-13 14:04 Monstrata: http://puu.sh/vP2vG.jpg
2017-05-13 14:05 Monstrata: to get the position of 3
2017-05-13 14:05 Monstrata: http://puu.sh/vP2x3.jpg
2017-05-13 14:05 Monstrata: the end result is something cleaner
2017-05-13 14:08 Monstrata: Okay, send me update when ur done fixing. I fixed your stuff myself and i've uploaded it as another diff called "Edited Dunois Normal" so after you're done fixing, send me the code
2017-05-13 14:08 Monstrata: then redownload the map so you can see how i would have fixed it
2017-05-13 14:08 Monstrata: and we can compare
2017-05-13 14:27 Dunois: ok i think i changed everything you said
2017-05-13 14:43 Monstrata: not bad
2017-05-13 14:44 Monstrata: 00:59:809 (5,6) - spacing got messed up here
2017-05-13 14:44 Monstrata: 01:00:483 (1,1,1) - you don't need to NC that many times
2017-05-13 14:44 Monstrata: okay very small fixes, send me update when ur
2017-05-13 14:44 Monstrata: o wait
2017-05-13 14:44 Monstrata: 00:51:697 (5,6) - spacing error here too
2017-05-13 14:44 Monstrata: okay just fix those 3
2017-05-13 14:44 Dunois: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8080791
2017-05-13 14:45 Dunois: ?
2017-05-13 14:45 Dunois: no nc
2017-05-13 14:45 Dunois: oh woops
2017-05-13 14:45 Dunois: i fixed that after i sent it to you
2017-05-13 14:45 Monstrata: o xD
2017-05-13 14:47 Dunois: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8080812
2017-05-13 14:47 Dunois: are notes not allowed to be this close?
2017-05-13 14:48 Monstrata: oh
2017-05-13 14:48 Monstrata: no
2017-05-13 14:48 Monstrata: so you might have to move stuff around some more
2017-05-13 14:49 Monstrata: you could probably move an entire section
2017-05-13 14:49 Monstrata: or move some of the earlier parts
2017-05-13 14:49 Dunois: ya thats what i mostly do when theres stuff about spacing
2017-05-13 14:49 Dunois: l
2017-05-13 14:50 Monstrata: the challenge is keeping a visual flow with 00:52:046 (6,1) -
2017-05-13 14:50 Monstrata: cuz of the curve
2017-05-13 14:51 Monstrata: if it helps
2017-05-13 14:51 Monstrata: 00:51:522 (4,5) - you could try stacking these instead o spacing
2017-05-13 14:51 Monstrata: http://puu.sh/vP5cp.jpg it's not perfect
2017-05-13 14:51 Monstrata: but its acceptable
2017-05-13 14:51 Monstrata: just an idea
2017-05-13 14:53 Dunois: whats the max 2 notes can me spaced
2017-05-13 14:53 Dunois: be*
2017-05-13 14:53 Dunois: for normal
2017-05-13 14:53 Dunois: 0.05?
2017-05-13 14:54 Dunois: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8080864
2017-05-13 14:54 Dunois: also is this finexd
2017-05-13 14:54 Monstrata: make the two linear sliders
2017-05-13 14:54 Monstrata: the same
2017-05-13 14:54 Monstrata: so copy slider 3
2017-05-13 14:54 Monstrata: past it, and scale it down
2017-05-13 14:54 Dunois: ye
2017-05-13 14:54 Monstrata: so theyreparallel
2017-05-13 14:54 Monstrata: also uh
2017-05-13 14:55 Monstrata: 5>6 the angle is kinda bad
2017-05-13 14:55 Monstrata: don't angle it at like 90 degrees
2017-05-13 14:55 Monstrata: http://puu.sh/vP5qB.jpg
2017-05-13 14:55 Monstrata: is good
2017-05-13 14:57 Dunois: ok sent
2017-05-13 15:06 Monstrata: eh
2017-05-13 15:08 Monstrata: can i make some changes
2017-05-13 15:08 Monstrata: 00:58:461 (2,3,4,5,6) - is still pretty bad
2017-05-13 15:08 Monstrata: cuz you dont make use of linear patterns
2017-05-13 15:08 Monstrata: also 2+5+6 is really clumped together still
2017-05-13 15:08 Monstrata: 01:00:146 (6,1) - also spacing etc...
2017-05-13 15:09 Dunois: ok
2017-05-13 15:12 Monstrata: k done
2017-05-13 15:12 Monstrata: i set you up for the next section so you know where to begin
2017-05-13 15:12 Monstrata: also fixed blankets and some triangle stuff
2017-05-13 15:12 Monstrata: small things
2017-05-13 15:12 Monstrata: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1286618 RADWIMPS - Yume Tourou [Dunois' Normal]]
2017-05-13 15:12 Monstrata: updated~
2017-05-13 15:13 Monstrata: 00:59:135 (4,5,6) - i made a linear pattern here., better than no pattern
2017-05-13 15:13 Monstrata: 00:58:798 (3,4) - and i made these parallel instead of Ctrl+H'ed
2017-05-13 15:13 Monstrata: parallel looks nicer with short sliders
2017-05-13 15:14 Monstrata: 01:02:843 (5,1) - and i started the next section for you so you can start mapping with 01:03:686 (2) - etc...
2017-05-13 15:14 Monstrata: Anyways, map until 01:13:967 -
2017-05-13 15:14 Monstrata: remember what i said earlier, map stuff like 01:03:686 (2,3) - to stacks
2017-05-13 15:15 Monstrata: 01:11:270 (1,2,3) - and use a triangular slider pattern here similar to 01:00:483 (1,2,3) -
2017-05-13 15:15 Monstrata: okay that should be all for now
2017-05-13 15:34 Dunois: wait so should i update my map
2017-05-13 15:42 Monstrata: yea
2017-05-13 15:42 Monstrata: update ur map first to latest version
2017-05-13 15:43 Monstrata: since i made some changes
2017-05-14 05:25 Dunois: done
2017-05-14 05:26 Dunois: dunna if youre awake or not xd
2017-05-14 05:26 Dunois: gonna go sleep now tho
2017-05-14 14:03 Dunois: check map i wanna finish :d
2017-05-14 14:03 Monstrata: o
2017-05-14 14:05 Monstrata: wow
2017-05-14 14:05 Monstrata: pretty good
2017-05-14 14:05 Dunois: really
2017-05-14 14:05 Dunois: ?
2017-05-14 14:05 Dunois: :O
2017-05-14 14:05 Monstrata: 01:05:877 (1,2,3) - so, stuff like this, point the slider like this:
2017-05-14 14:05 Monstrata: http://puu.sh/vQ4im.jpg
2017-05-14 14:05 Monstrata: then rotate by 180 degrees from selection center
2017-05-14 14:05 Dunois: to make it linear
2017-05-14 14:05 Monstrata: 01:09:247 (3,4,5) - flow here could be better though.
2017-05-14 14:06 Monstrata: and yes for linear pattern
2017-05-14 14:06 Monstrata: you can try
2017-05-14 14:06 Monstrata: http://puu.sh/vQ4lg.jpg
2017-05-14 14:06 Monstrata: something like this
2017-05-14 14:06 Monstrata: if you can get it to fit this would be the best pattern imo
2017-05-14 14:06 Monstrata: 01:11:270 (7) - NC this
2017-05-14 14:06 Monstrata: 01:10:933 (6,7,8,9,10,11) - nice
2017-05-14 14:06 Monstrata: okay thats all
2017-05-14 14:06 Monstrata: fix those 3 issues i pointed out and send to me
2017-05-14 14:10 Dunois: sent
2017-05-14 14:11 Monstrata: 01:12:618 (3,4,5) - i liked it better when you overlapped them the other way
2017-05-14 14:11 Monstrata: anyways
2017-05-14 14:11 Dunois: flip it?
2017-05-14 14:12 Monstrata: can i fix for you?
2017-05-14 14:12 Monstrata: i think ur setting urself up for a bad pattern
2017-05-14 14:12 Dunois: from 01:12:618 (3,4,5) - right
2017-05-14 14:12 Monstrata: cuz the current angle is kinda sharp, but ur also getting off the screen a bit
2017-05-14 14:12 Monstrata: yea
2017-05-14 14:12 Dunois: ok
2017-05-14 14:12 Dunois: cause the 01:09:247 (3,4,5) - fix i didnt wanna
2017-05-14 14:12 Dunois: wekk
2017-05-14 14:12 Dunois: well
2017-05-14 14:12 Dunois: idk
2017-05-14 14:13 Monstrata: its okay i'll just fix for you im just moving the two circles slightly
2017-05-14 14:13 Monstrata: to set up the next section for you
2017-05-14 14:13 Dunois: ok
2017-05-14 14:14 Monstrata: okay updated
2017-05-14 14:14 Monstrata: redownload so you have my fix
2017-05-14 14:14 Monstrata: map until 01:24:753 - and send me~
2017-05-14 14:14 Monstrata: whewm 40 more seconds
2017-05-14 17:09 Dunois: sent
2017-05-14 17:19 Monstrata: i 100% told you but
2017-05-14 17:19 Monstrata: 01:15:315 (4,5,6,7) -
2017-05-14 17:20 Monstrata: should be together
2017-05-14 17:20 Monstrata: so do something with 4+5 and copy paste it for 6+7
2017-05-14 17:20 Monstrata: 01:18:011 (5,6,7,1) - really jumbled up here
2017-05-14 17:20 Monstrata: 01:17:674 (4,7) - don't overlap
2017-05-14 17:20 Monstrata: you should really use more triangle structure here
2017-05-14 17:20 Monstrata: and more blankets
2017-05-14 17:20 Monstrata: 01:16:326 (7,1) - etc...
2017-05-14 17:20 Monstrata: blankets
2017-05-14 17:21 Monstrata: 01:20:708 (4,5,6) - linear pattern pls
2017-05-14 17:21 Monstrata: 4 is off
2017-05-14 17:22 Monstrata: 01:25:427 (2) - bad position.
2017-05-14 17:22 Monstrata: actually uh
2017-05-14 17:22 Monstrata: thats the next part nvm
2017-05-14 17:22 Dunois: ya
2017-05-14 17:22 Dunois: lo
2017-05-14 17:22 Monstrata: 01:15:989 (6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3) - basically everything here is probably going to need to be remapped into something better
2017-05-14 17:22 Monstrata: you need more copy/paste patterns
2017-05-14 17:23 Monstrata: 01:20:708 (4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5) - stuff like this is good.
2017-05-14 17:23 Dunois: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8091788
2017-05-14 17:23 Dunois: is someting liek this ok
2017-05-14 17:24 Dunois: or should i change it completely
2017-05-14 17:24 Monstrata: Ctrl+J 6+7
2017-05-14 17:24 Monstrata: and its good
2017-05-14 17:24 Monstrata: ctrl+G and fit it back in the pattern, then show me
2017-05-14 17:25 Dunois: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8091803
2017-05-14 17:26 Monstrata: uh
2017-05-14 17:26 Monstrata: what
2017-05-14 17:26 Monstrata: you ctrl+G'ed them
2017-05-14 17:26 Monstrata: CtrlJ
2017-05-14 17:26 Dunois: you said ctrl g
2017-05-14 17:26 Monstrata: J
2017-05-14 17:26 Dunois: w
2017-05-14 17:26 Monstrata: oh
2017-05-14 17:26 Monstrata: yea just Ctlr+J*
2017-05-14 17:26 Dunois: ok yea
2017-05-14 17:26 Dunois: i was like uhh ok
2017-05-14 17:26 Monstrata: so you get parallel pattern
2017-05-14 17:26 Monstrata: err not parallel but symmetrical
2017-05-14 17:27 Dunois: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8091812
2017-05-14 17:27 Monstrata: but now 5>6 is a poor angle
2017-05-14 17:27 Monstrata: http://puu.sh/vQeCm.jpg
2017-05-14 17:27 Monstrata: this
2017-05-14 17:28 Monstrata: then next slider begins below 7 (blanket 7 too)
2017-05-14 17:28 Monstrata: like
2017-05-14 17:28 Monstrata: http://puu.sh/vQeFi.jpg
2017-05-14 17:28 Monstrata: would be nice
2017-05-14 17:29 Dunois: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8091822
2017-05-14 17:29 Dunois: oh yea
2017-05-14 17:29 Monstrata: next
2017-05-14 17:29 Monstrata: something like this:
2017-05-14 17:29 Monstrata: http://puu.sh/vQeIG.jpg
2017-05-14 17:29 Monstrata: to transition out of the clumped pattern
2017-05-14 17:34 Dunois: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8091850
2017-05-14 17:34 Dunois: this ok?
2017-05-14 17:36 Monstrata: mmm
2017-05-14 17:36 Monstrata: i would ctrl+G 6+7
2017-05-14 17:36 Monstrata: actually
2017-05-14 17:36 Monstrata: better to do thisL
2017-05-14 17:38 Monstrata: something like this:
2017-05-14 17:38 Monstrata: http://puu.sh/vQf5T.jpg
2017-05-14 17:38 Monstrata: wider angles
2017-05-14 17:38 Monstrata: instead of using sharp triangular flow
2017-05-14 17:38 Dunois: wait
2017-05-14 17:38 Dunois: where is that
2017-05-14 17:38 Monstrata: i just made that randomly
2017-05-14 17:38 Dunois: timestamp
2017-05-14 17:38 Monstrata: based on ur pattern
2017-05-14 17:39 Monstrata: so ctrl+G 6 and 7
2017-05-14 17:39 Monstrata: then stack the new 7 on the green slider's tail
2017-05-14 17:39 Dunois: then blanket
2017-05-14 17:39 Monstrata: then move the green slider somewhere else or rotate to create another blanket pattern
2017-05-14 17:39 Monstrata: yep
2017-05-14 17:39 Dunois: 1
2017-05-14 17:39 Dunois: ye
2017-05-14 17:39 Monstrata: ideally you can make the green slider's tail also create a triangle with 6>7
2017-05-14 17:40 Monstrata: do you kno whow to set it up?
2017-05-14 17:41 Dunois: i just sent you what i tried
2017-05-14 17:41 Monstrata: http://puu.sh/vQfdI.jpg Blanket first | http://puu.sh/vQfem.jpg Rotate 240 degrees | http://puu.sh/vQffd.jpg stack
2017-05-14 17:42 Monstrata: http://puu.sh/vQffP.jpg copy the two circles | rotate 120 degrees to get triangle
2017-05-14 17:42 Monstrata: http://puu.sh/vQfi2.jpg then create slider
2017-05-14 17:42 Monstrata: http://puu.sh/vQfiO.jpg and then crtrl+ g etc..
2017-05-14 17:43 Monstrata: actually urs is
2017-05-14 17:43 Monstrata: almost perfect so good enough
2017-05-14 17:44 Monstrata: but thats the method basically
2017-05-14 17:44 Dunois: fuk
2017-05-14 17:44 Dunois: i literally just ereased everything
2017-05-14 17:44 Monstrata: its okay
2017-05-14 17:45 Monstrata: uh
2017-05-14 17:45 Monstrata: 01:17:674 (4,5) - this transition is really bad can i fix for you?
2017-05-14 17:45 Dunois: yea
2017-05-14 17:45 Monstrata: theres a really simple way to fix but its really convoluted to explain basically rotate whole pattern and stack and change angles t.c.
2017-05-14 17:45 Monstrata: im making it
2017-05-14 17:45 Monstrata: http://puu.sh/vQfrD.jpg
2017-05-14 17:45 Monstrata: a perfect hexagon pattern like this
2017-05-14 17:46 Monstrata: okay ill upload
2017-05-14 17:46 Monstrata: changes before are good. so just concentrate on
2017-05-14 17:46 Monstrata: 01:19:865 (2) - onwards
2017-05-14 17:47 Monstrata: anyways
2017-05-14 17:47 Monstrata: updated
2017-05-14 17:47 Monstrata: update ur diff to latest version so you can see my change
2017-05-14 17:47 Monstrata: for 01:19:865 (2,3) -
2017-05-14 17:47 Monstrata: i recommend a blanket pattern like this:
2017-05-14 17:47 Monstrata: http://puu.sh/vQfxO.jpg
2017-05-14 17:48 Dunois: also just making sure
2017-05-14 17:48 Dunois: i pluralized it right
2017-05-14 17:48 Dunois: right
2017-05-14 17:48 Dunois: Dunois"
2017-05-14 17:48 Dunois: Dunois'
2017-05-14 17:48 Monstrata: both work
2017-05-14 17:48 Monstrata: Dunois' is best
2017-05-14 17:50 Dunois: for the change
2017-05-14 17:50 Dunois: so next note should be
2017-05-14 17:50 Dunois: http://puu.sh/vQfDC/876524f501.jpg
2017-05-14 17:50 Dunois: right
2017-05-14 17:50 Monstrata: yep
2017-05-14 17:50 Monstrata: if you see the ss i sent
2017-05-14 17:50 Monstrata: thats what you could go fo
2017-05-14 17:50 Monstrata: https://puu.sh/vQfxO.jpg
2017-05-14 17:51 Monstrata: lets you work with the top side of the map
2017-05-14 17:51 Monstrata: you can probably just rotate and ctrl+J
2017-05-14 17:51 Monstrata: the entire rest of the map
2017-05-14 17:51 Monstrata: since the patterns are all good. its just a matter of fitting them in
2017-05-14 17:52 Monstrata: if you want you can do this:
2017-05-14 17:52 Monstrata: 01:20:708 (4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5) - take this whole thing, rotate by 90 degrees
2017-05-14 17:52 Monstrata: then ctrl+J
2017-05-14 17:53 Monstrata: then rotate by -30 degrees
2017-05-14 17:53 Monstrata: would look something like: http://puu.sh/vQfNK.jpg
2017-05-14 17:54 Dunois: OH
2017-05-14 17:54 Dunois: oh
2017-05-14 17:54 Dunois: i blanketed 4
2017-05-14 17:54 Dunois: and then did what you wanted me to do
2017-05-14 17:55 Dunois: so
2017-05-14 17:55 Dunois: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8091959
2017-05-14 17:55 Monstrata: i think
2017-05-14 17:55 Monstrata: its better to do what i did
2017-05-14 17:55 Monstrata: and not blanket here
2017-05-14 17:56 Monstrata: reason being, you get a weird squigly flow
2017-05-14 17:56 Monstrata: http://puu.sh/vQfWP.jpg
2017-05-14 17:57 Monstrata: whereas my way is a cleaner circular flow'
2017-05-14 17:58 Monstrata: want me to just apply this for you? lol
2017-05-14 17:58 Monstrata: so you can just go onto kiai
2017-05-14 17:58 Dunois: ya
2017-05-14 17:58 Dunois: brb i gotta do some stuff
2017-05-14 17:58 Monstrata: kk
2017-05-14 17:58 Dunois: mom has friends over
2017-05-14 18:04 Monstrata: http://puu.sh/vQgkP.txt
2017-05-14 18:04 Monstrata: osu is having server issues. i can't upload
2017-05-14 18:04 Monstrata: so thats the latest version
2017-05-14 18:05 Monstrata: copy/paste it into your current .osu notepad. then do rhythms until 01:40:933 -
2017-05-14 18:05 Monstrata: half of kiai
2017-05-14 20:12 Dunois: sent
2017-05-14 20:15 Dunois: 01:31:326 (4,5) - i think i should change this to 1/2 slider
2017-05-14 20:16 Dunois: same with 01:36:719 (4,5) -
2017-05-14 20:26 Monstrata: hnmm
2017-05-14 20:26 Monstrata: ok
2017-05-14 20:26 Monstrata: 01:26:776 (6) - add a repeat
2017-05-14 20:26 Monstrata: 3/2 gaps aren't good on Normal
2017-05-14 20:26 Monstrata: 01:27:450 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1) - this build up isn't good
2017-05-14 20:27 Monstrata: 01:27:450 (1,2) - 1/1 slider instead
2017-05-14 20:27 Monstrata: 01:28:124 (3,4) - 1/1 circles
2017-05-14 20:27 Monstrata: 01:29:472 (6) - don't do 2x repeats
2017-05-14 20:27 Monstrata: remove one of the repeats. and it'll be good
2017-05-14 20:28 Dunois: and leave it?
2017-05-14 20:28 Dunois: or add a note in place
2017-05-14 20:28 Dunois: also i messed up combos when doing changes so you can show me where you meant by 1/1 cirles
2017-05-14 20:28 Dunois: circles
2017-05-14 20:28 Dunois: *
2017-05-14 20:28 Monstrata: leave it
2017-05-14 20:28 Monstrata: basically use this rhythm:
2017-05-14 20:29 Monstrata: http://puu.sh/vQmIb.jpg
2017-05-14 20:29 Monstrata: 01:31:495 (5,6,7) - Ctrl+G is better
2017-05-14 20:30 Monstrata: two circles after a slider is usually not a good rhythm
2017-05-14 20:30 Monstrata: http://puu.sh/vQmLw.jpg would be good
2017-05-14 20:30 Monstrata: 01:36:889 (5,6) - Same, replace with a 1/1 slider
2017-05-14 20:31 Monstrata: but other than that
2017-05-14 20:31 Monstrata: good
2017-05-14 20:31 Monstrata: make the fixes and send me update
2017-05-14 20:32 Dunois: on twitter did you mean a mapping collab for sparkle or an avatar collab
2017-05-14 20:32 Dunois: i dont wanna be wrong vs jimmy LOL
2017-05-14 20:33 Monstrata: mapping collab lol
2017-05-14 20:36 Dunois: sent
2017-05-14 20:36 Dunois: i think
2017-05-14 20:36 Monstrata: 01:32:843 (8) - add NC
2017-05-14 20:36 Dunois: resent just in case
2017-05-14 20:36 Monstrata: 01:38:237 (8) - NC
2017-05-14 20:37 Monstrata: okay
2017-05-14 20:37 Monstrata: start mapping~
2017-05-14 20:38 Dunois: are you gonna be awake for a while
2017-05-14 20:38 Dunois: LO
2017-05-14 20:38 Monstrata: yea
2017-05-14 20:47 Dunois: i think you can delete
2017-05-14 20:47 Dunois: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1293170 RADWIMPS - Yume Tourou [Edited Dunois Normal]]
2017-05-14 20:47 Dunois: now
2017-05-14 20:48 Dunois: xd
2017-05-14 20:48 Monstrata: oh xD
2017-05-14 20:48 Monstrata: yea probably
2017-05-14 22:07 Dunois: sent
2017-05-14 22:18 Monstrata: 01:26:776 (6,2) - xd overlap
2017-05-14 22:19 Monstrata: 01:29:135 (5,1) -
2017-05-14 22:19 Monstrata: pls never do stuff like this xP if the objects are touching like this its bad
2017-05-14 22:19 Dunois: fk
2017-05-14 22:19 Dunois: end of 5 and 1?
2017-05-14 22:19 Monstrata: 01:30:820 (3,4,5,6) - make them both blanket 6 otherwise it looks really inconsistent
2017-05-14 22:19 Monstrata: yes
2017-05-14 22:19 Dunois: oh yea
2017-05-14 22:19 Dunois: also
2017-05-14 22:19 Monstrata: 01:32:843 (1,2,3) - use blankets, linear looks bad
2017-05-14 22:20 Monstrata: http://puu.sh/vQr4Z.jpg
2017-05-14 22:20 Monstrata: cuz of that
2017-05-14 22:20 Dunois: should i just
2017-05-14 22:20 Monstrata: 01:34:865 (4,3) - same this is too close together, really cluttered
2017-05-14 22:20 Dunois: copy paste the pattern from earlier
2017-05-14 22:20 Monstrata: yes
2017-05-14 22:20 Monstrata: please copy paste more
2017-05-14 22:20 Dunois: ok LOL
2017-05-14 22:20 Monstrata: like what you have from earlier is 100% rankable so if you can, copy paste
2017-05-14 22:20 Monstrata: 01:38:236 (1,2,3) - same
2017-05-14 22:20 Dunois: ok yeah i ll just replace it
2017-05-14 22:20 Dunois: ya
2017-05-14 22:20 Dunois: LO
2017-05-14 22:21 Monstrata: 01:36:889 (5,6) - linear pattern pls
2017-05-14 22:21 Monstrata: 01:37:562 (6,7) - and use a parallel instead of a random angle
2017-05-14 22:21 Monstrata: if theres no pattern make a pattern
2017-05-14 22:21 Monstrata: 01:26:438 (5,6) - poor angle. do : http://puu.sh/vQr90.jpg at least its a neutral angle
2017-05-14 22:22 Dunois: wont it overlap 01:28:124 (2) -
2017-05-14 22:22 Monstrata: 01:34:865 (4,2,3) - create a triangle http://puu.sh/vQraz.jpg
2017-05-14 22:22 Monstrata: yes it'll overlap, so redo the next section or rotate it so it doesn't overlap
2017-05-14 22:23 Monstrata: okay i think thats all... idk. we'll see how you fix it
2017-05-14 22:23 Monstrata: but yea send me update when ur done
2017-05-14 22:26 Dunois: 01:28:124 (2) -
2017-05-14 22:26 Dunois: how can i make it blanket both
2017-05-14 22:27 Monstrata: whats on ur screen
2017-05-14 22:27 Monstrata: screenshot
2017-05-14 22:27 Monstrata: cuz idk what you mean
2017-05-14 22:27 Dunois: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8092996
2017-05-14 22:27 Dunois: thsi
2017-05-14 22:27 Monstrata: o
2017-05-14 22:27 Dunois: this?
2017-05-14 22:27 Dunois: this*
2017-05-14 22:27 Monstrata: u mean 01:32:169 (6) -
2017-05-14 22:27 Monstrata: you had the wrong time stamp
2017-05-14 22:28 Dunois: ya idk why it didnt copy the right one
2017-05-14 22:28 Monstrata: 01:19:023 (7,1,2,3) - see what i did with this
2017-05-14 22:28 Monstrata: same idea
2017-05-14 22:28 Monstrata: so you probably have to ctrl+G slider 3
2017-05-14 22:28 Monstrata: then blanket
2017-05-14 22:28 Monstrata: then ctrl+G it back to normal
2017-05-14 22:50 Dunois: sent
2017-05-14 22:52 Monstrata: 01:32:506 (7,1) - transition isn't good considering the flow of slider 1
2017-05-14 22:53 Monstrata: maybe try this: http://puu.sh/vQscT.jpg
2017-05-14 22:53 Monstrata: 01:39:585 (3,4) - spacing is a bit messed up here,. move 4+5 together
2017-05-14 22:53 Monstrata: okay thats all
2017-05-14 22:53 Monstrata: fixes are good
2017-05-14 22:54 Monstrata: 01:29:472 (6,1) - oh, spacing here is a bit inconsistent too
2017-05-14 22:54 Monstrata: too short this time
2017-05-14 22:59 Dunois: wait i dont know if i fixed 01:29:472 (6,1) - or not yet
2017-05-14 23:00 Dunois: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8093080
2017-05-14 23:01 Monstrata: http://puu.sh/vQsue.jpg
2017-05-14 23:01 Monstrata: if those numbers are close to 1.00 then you're good
2017-05-14 23:01 Monstrata: here i think its fine
2017-05-14 23:05 Dunois: ok well i just sent
2017-05-14 23:05 Dunois: you can check and let me kno i guess
2017-05-14 23:07 Monstrata: oh
2017-05-14 23:07 Monstrata: looks good
2017-05-14 23:07 Monstrata: do rhythms up until 01:54:416 -
2017-05-14 23:08 Monstrata: then
2017-05-14 23:09 Monstrata: for 01:54:416 - and onward
2017-05-14 23:09 Monstrata: literally copy the rhythm you used for 00:52:394 - 01:03:180 -
2017-05-14 23:09 Monstrata: and we're done all rhythms
2017-05-14 23:22 Dunois: sent
2017-05-14 23:23 Monstrata: 01:41:448 - vocal is on red tick
2017-05-14 23:24 Monstrata: so here
2017-05-14 23:24 Monstrata: http://puu.sh/vQtlZ.jpg
2017-05-14 23:24 Monstrata: do this:
2017-05-14 23:24 Monstrata: 01:43:629 (7,8,9) - same idea here
2017-05-14 23:24 Monstrata: 01:45:652 (11) - make this a circle instead, since the red tick is really weak compared to 01:46:158 - which actually has a vocal note
2017-05-14 23:25 Monstrata: 01:47:000 (14,15) - same, move them earlier so its on the red tick
2017-05-14 23:25 Monstrata: 01:48:349 (17,18) - use the same rhythm as earlier http://puu.sh/vQtpv.jpg
2017-05-14 23:25 Dunois: forgot to nc stuff
2017-05-14 23:25 Monstrata: yea
2017-05-14 23:25 Monstrata: holy
2017-05-14 23:25 Monstrata: its so hard
2017-05-14 23:26 Dunois: yeah woops xd
2017-05-14 23:26 Monstrata: ugh
2017-05-14 23:26 Monstrata: appply what i said first
2017-05-14 23:26 Monstrata: then do NC's
2017-05-14 23:26 Monstrata: then send me
2017-05-14 23:26 Monstrata: so i dont get you confused
2017-05-14 23:29 Dunois: sent
2017-05-14 23:29 Dunois: i got confused too
2017-05-14 23:30 Monstrata: yea you got confused
2017-05-14 23:31 Monstrata: 01:41:944 (3,4) - use a 1/2 slider instead
2017-05-14 23:31 Monstrata: 3 clicks in a row is really dense
2017-05-14 23:31 Monstrata: 01:44:641 (3,4) - same
2017-05-14 23:31 Monstrata: 01:47:506 (4,5,6,7) - this is completely wrong just delete it for now
2017-05-14 23:31 Monstrata: take 01:46:326 (1,2,3) - and copy paste it onto the next white tick
2017-05-14 23:31 Monstrata: http://puu.sh/vQtCb.jpg
2017-05-14 23:32 Monstrata: thats more or less the base rhythm you're going to spam
2017-05-14 23:32 Monstrata: since if you listen, the emphasis is White tick, then red tick 3/2 of a beat later, then white tick 3/2 after
2017-05-14 23:32 Monstrata: 01:46:326 - 01:46:832 - 01:47:337 - those are the points of emphasis for example
2017-05-14 23:33 Monstrata: 01:49:697 (2,3) - same idea here. move it 1/2 a beat forward
2017-05-14 23:33 Monstrata: http://puu.sh/vQtEW.jpg this is good
2017-05-14 23:33 Dunois: yeah i did that already
2017-05-14 23:33 Monstrata: 01:52:225 (2,3) - same rhythm as earlier
2017-05-14 23:34 Monstrata: 01:53:068 (4) - could be a 1/2 repeat probably, instead of 1/1 for the red tick
2017-05-14 23:34 Dunois: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8093135
2017-05-14 23:34 Monstrata: http://puu.sh/vQtH5.jpg
2017-05-14 23:34 Dunois: should i change 2 3 to a 1/2 slider
2017-05-14 23:34 Monstrata: nah leave it empty imo
2017-05-14 23:35 Monstrata: otherwise theres too much of a 1/2 chain
2017-05-14 23:35 Monstrata: 01:50:371 (4,5,6,7) - considering this part warlier
2017-05-14 23:35 Monstrata: and then
2017-05-14 23:35 Monstrata: 02:04:360 - add a circle here
2017-05-14 23:35 Monstrata: so its slightly different from earlier
2017-05-14 23:35 Monstrata: xD
2017-05-14 23:35 Dunois: xd
2017-05-14 23:35 Dunois: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8093144
2017-05-14 23:35 Dunois: so this si fine then
2017-05-14 23:36 Monstrata: another option is http://puu.sh/vQtJK.jpg if you want to make the last note clickable, both are fine so its up to your preference here
2017-05-14 23:36 Monstrata: and yea thats fine
2017-05-14 23:36 Monstrata: send me update when ur done fixing~
2017-05-14 23:36 Dunois: ill see
2017-05-14 23:36 Dunois: whatever is better later when i do placements i guess
2017-05-14 23:37 Dunois: snet
2017-05-14 23:37 Dunois: sent
2017-05-14 23:39 Monstrata: nice
2017-05-14 23:39 Monstrata: map until 01:54:416 -
2017-05-15 00:09 Dunois: done
2017-05-15 00:11 Monstrata: ah
2017-05-15 00:11 Monstrata: man
2017-05-15 00:11 Dunois: i think
2017-05-15 00:11 Monstrata: idk about this lemme think
2017-05-15 00:11 Dunois: i knwo what you mean
2017-05-15 00:12 Dunois: LOL
2017-05-15 00:12 Monstrata: see the problem with Normals is
2017-05-15 00:12 Monstrata: when you use 1/2 rhythms
2017-05-15 00:12 Monstrata: its hard to create patterns
2017-05-15 00:12 Dunois: ya
2017-05-15 00:12 Dunois: 01:40:933 (1,2,3,4) - this stuff
2017-05-15 00:12 Dunois: and
2017-05-15 00:12 Monstrata: so i kinda get why you have these ugly long lines of sliders
2017-05-15 00:12 Dunois: 01:46:326 (1,2,3) -
2017-05-15 00:12 Monstrata: congo line of slinders
2017-05-15 00:12 Dunois: this one
2017-05-15 00:12 Dunois: LOL
2017-05-15 00:13 Monstrata: okay i got it
2017-05-15 00:13 Monstrata: we should change the rhythm to avoid this
2017-05-15 00:13 Monstrata: 01:40:933 (1,2,3) - replace with a singl 3/2 repeat slider
2017-05-15 00:13 Monstrata: wait
2017-05-15 00:13 Monstrata: that might not work either
2017-05-15 00:13 Monstrata: slkdjfslkdf
2017-05-15 00:14 Monstrata: ok
2017-05-15 00:14 Monstrata: lemme think
2017-05-15 00:14 Monstrata: cuz like, generally with stuff like this
2017-05-15 00:14 Monstrata: i'll use linear sliders and just use parallel patterns so it actually creates something interesting
2017-05-15 00:15 Monstrata: okay
2017-05-15 00:16 Monstrata: heres something i did: http://puu.sh/vQv5W.jpg
2017-05-15 00:16 Monstrata: 01:40:933 (1,2,3,4) - for this
2017-05-15 00:16 Monstrata: so
2017-05-15 00:16 Monstrata: 01:40:933 (1,2,3) - are like one phrasal pattern, so i made them the same structure more or less
2017-05-15 00:16 Monstrata: but 01:42:281 (4) - is different. its following instrument not vocals. so i use a different stand-alone pattern instead
2017-05-15 00:17 Monstrata: want me to update with this change so you can see?
2017-05-15 00:17 Dunois: ya
2017-05-15 00:17 Monstrata: i think you can build around it, and use a similar idea for the other pattern
2017-05-15 00:17 Dunois: yes
2017-05-15 00:17 Dunois: pls
2017-05-15 00:17 Monstrata: or just copy paste it cuz thats fine. we can call it consistency
2017-05-15 00:18 Monstrata: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1286618 RADWIMPS - Yume Tourou [Dunois' Normal]]
2017-05-15 00:18 Monstrata: kk updated
2017-05-15 00:18 Monstrata: i think
2017-05-15 00:18 Monstrata: 01:46:326 - just fix up until here
2017-05-15 00:18 Monstrata: and send to me
2017-05-15 00:19 Monstrata: cuz this is probably going to require some remapping anyways
2017-05-15 00:38 Dunois: sent
2017-05-15 00:38 Monstrata: 01:43:629 (1,2,3,4) - oh this is pretty cool
2017-05-15 00:39 Monstrata: 01:44:135 (2,5) - this is a bad overlap tho
2017-05-15 00:39 Dunois: i took inspiration from zen zen zense
2017-05-15 00:39 Monstrata: but imo, you should move 5 to where 6 is
2017-05-15 00:39 Dunois: xd
2017-05-15 00:39 Monstrata: http://puu.sh/vQvTd.jpg
2017-05-15 00:39 Monstrata: and then move 6 to the right more
2017-05-15 00:40 Monstrata: 01:46:326 (1,2) - stuff like this. make them the same slider shape so its more consistent visually
2017-05-15 00:40 Monstrata: take one, and ctrl+H it for the other basically
2017-05-15 00:40 Monstrata: 01:47:674 (1,2) - same. You could try two curved, then two cornered
2017-05-15 00:40 Monstrata: 01:51:045 (5,6,1) - really bunched together
2017-05-15 00:41 Monstrata: do something like this. have the slider point away from the pattern
2017-05-15 00:41 Monstrata: http://puu.sh/vQvXA.jpg
2017-05-15 00:41 Monstrata: so you can free up space
2017-05-15 00:42 Monstrata: 01:52:731 (3,4) - theres a 1/1 gap here so no need to clump
2017-05-15 00:42 Monstrata: use more of the area, don't map to the top/left corner when you have to much space on the right
2017-05-15 00:42 Monstrata: okay
2017-05-15 00:42 Monstrata: send me when ur done fixing and we should be good probably
2017-05-15 00:49 Dunois: done
2017-05-15 00:51 Monstrata: 01:47:674 (1) - remove NC
2017-05-15 00:51 Monstrata: okay thats all
2017-05-15 00:51 Monstrata: map until the end
2017-05-15 00:51 Monstrata: 01:53:573 (5,1) - stack is good.
2017-05-15 00:52 Monstrata: 00:52:394 - refer to how you mapped this part of course, since its the same rhythm
2017-05-15 00:52 Monstrata: try and use more blankets
2017-05-15 00:52 Monstrata: you haven't been using them a lot lately cuz of the rhythms
2017-05-15 00:52 Dunois: ye i try to
2017-05-15 01:05 Dunois: done
2017-05-15 01:07 Monstrata: 01:54:416 (1,2,3) - potential for linear pattern
2017-05-15 01:07 Monstrata: try using the heads? slider 1 + 2 + 3 can form a line
2017-05-15 01:07 Monstrata: and then slider 3 can be pointing in that line
2017-05-15 01:07 Monstrata: 01:55:427 (3,4) - and this, maybe use parallel sliders instead. looks better
2017-05-15 01:08 Monstrata: for 01:56:775 (6,1,2,3) - try creating a square pattern.
2017-05-15 01:08 Monstrata: http://puu.sh/vQwOA.jpg like this
2017-05-15 01:08 Monstrata: so theres equidistant space between 01:56:776 (6) - and 01:58:123 (3) -
2017-05-15 01:09 Monstrata: for 02:01:832 (5) - copy 02:00:820 (3) - and rotate 90 degrees so you get a perpendicular pattern
2017-05-15 01:09 Dunois: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8093392
2017-05-15 01:09 Dunois: does this lok right
2017-05-15 01:09 Monstrata: looks good enough
2017-05-15 01:09 Monstrata: yea
2017-05-15 01:09 Monstrata: send me when you've fixed above ^
2017-05-15 01:11 Dunois: ye sent
2017-05-15 01:12 Monstrata: 02:00:820 (3,5) - too close.
2017-05-15 01:12 Monstrata: 01:55:427 (3,4) - could give them a bit more of an angle like : http://puu.sh/vQwWy.jpg
2017-05-15 01:13 Dunois: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8093411
2017-05-15 01:13 Dunois: this fine?
2017-05-15 01:14 Monstrata: mmm
2017-05-15 01:14 Monstrata: do it like this:
2017-05-15 01:14 Monstrata: http://puu.sh/vQwZ5.jpg
2017-05-15 01:14 Monstrata: so its touching the head of 4 and the tail of 3
2017-05-15 01:14 Monstrata: equidistance
2017-05-15 01:15 Dunois: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8093416 ?
2017-05-15 01:15 Monstrata: mmm a bit too low. see how the approach circle overlaps more of 4's head and less of 3's tail
2017-05-15 01:15 Monstrata: talking about the borders
2017-05-15 01:16 Monstrata: http://puu.sh/vQx2B.jpg
2017-05-15 01:16 Monstrata: anyways that should be all
2017-05-15 01:16 Monstrata: then we can go through the whole map
2017-05-15 01:16 Dunois: o for that part i just made it into a triangle
2017-05-15 01:17 Monstrata: o ok
2017-05-15 01:19 Dunois: ok sent
2017-05-15 01:20 Monstrata: okay nice
2017-05-15 01:20 Monstrata: going to go through the whole map now
2017-05-15 01:21 Dunois: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8093416
2017-05-15 01:21 Dunois: woops
2017-05-15 01:21 Monstrata: 00:26:929 (4,1) - so now you know more about flow. you can understand how this might be kinda bad xP
2017-05-15 01:21 Dunois: 00:32:511 (4,1) -
2017-05-15 01:21 Dunois: can make this linear right
2017-05-15 01:21 Monstrata: thats fine i think
2017-05-15 01:22 Monstrata: theres enough of the angle
2017-05-15 01:22 Dunois: ok
2017-05-15 01:22 Monstrata: 00:31:115 (2,3,4) - could be a triangle tho
2017-05-15 01:22 Monstrata: actually hmm
2017-05-15 01:23 Monstrata: tbh what you have is 95% good now
2017-05-15 01:23 Monstrata: so basically as a modder these are the places ppl will point out now.
2017-05-15 01:23 Monstrata: 00:26:929 (4,1) - flow is bad. Use a blanket.
2017-05-15 01:23 Monstrata: 00:31:115 (2,3,4,1) - use triangular placement instead
2017-05-15 01:23 Monstrata: 00:46:813 (1,2,3) - this angle is really poor
2017-05-15 01:23 Monstrata: 2>3 especially
2017-05-15 01:24 Monstrata: 01:18:685 (6,7,1,2,3) - overlap looks kinda bad
2017-05-15 01:24 Monstrata: 01:28:798 (4,5,6) - weird pattern. make them the same angle or something?
2017-05-15 01:25 Monstrata: but yea thats it
2017-05-15 01:25 Monstrata: if you want i can apply them for you
2017-05-15 01:25 Monstrata: since there are easy ways to fix them that won't require remapping
2017-05-15 01:25 Dunois: i fixed one of them
2017-05-15 01:26 Dunois: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8093454
2017-05-15 01:26 Monstrata: okay. send me the ones you can fix, and i'll handle the ones that are causing you to move stuff around too much
2017-05-15 01:26 Monstrata: oh, that works nicely
2017-05-15 01:26 Dunois: ok yea
2017-05-15 01:26 Dunois: ok i sent it to you
2017-05-15 01:27 Dunois: what about hitsounding
2017-05-15 01:27 Monstrata: do you want me to explain how i fix the others so you can understand?
2017-05-15 01:27 Monstrata: and for hitsounding im just going to copy from highest diff
2017-05-15 01:27 Dunois: yes
2017-05-15 01:27 Dunois: wait how does hitsounding work
2017-05-15 01:27 Dunois: dont you have to go through the entire map and use the toolbar on the right
2017-05-15 01:27 Monstrata: yep
2017-05-15 01:28 Monstrata: you go through and add claps, for snares
2017-05-15 01:28 Dunois: huh
2017-05-15 01:28 Monstrata: whistles for instruments (whistles is very complicated)
2017-05-15 01:28 Dunois: then how are you gonna copy it
2017-05-15 01:28 Monstrata: finish for cymbals
2017-05-15 01:28 Monstrata: there are programs
2017-05-15 01:28 Monstrata: basically it'll copy the hitsounding on Hard
2017-05-15 01:28 Monstrata: so if i have a clap on a certain time line
2017-05-15 01:28 Monstrata: it'll apply that clap to whatever is on the next iff
2017-05-15 01:29 Dunois: oooo
2017-05-15 01:29 Monstrata: for example, if i have a whistle on 00:27:278 - on highest diff. it'll add a whistle to 00:27:278 (1) - 's head
2017-05-15 01:29 Monstrata: yea
2017-05-15 01:29 Monstrata: i got someone else to do hitsounds for me cuz im too lazy nowadays lol
2017-05-15 01:29 Monstrata: okay so first
2017-05-15 01:29 Monstrata: 00:26:929 (4,1) - im going ot blanket this
2017-05-15 01:29 Monstrata: http://puu.sh/vQxsv.jpg
2017-05-15 01:29 Monstrata: and i moved 00:24:488 (1,2,3,4) - to the right a bit to give more room
2017-05-15 01:30 Monstrata: 00:27:801 (2) - this creates a weird flow here, so im making this slider an S slider to reset the flow
2017-05-15 01:31 Monstrata: end result: http://puu.sh/vQxvB.jpg
2017-05-15 01:31 Monstrata: 00:31:464 (3,4,1) - going to make these triangles first and not worry about next section
2017-05-15 01:33 Monstrata: 00:30:069 (1,2) - also fixing this blanket cuz the DS is tilting me
2017-05-15 01:34 Monstrata: so then i have somethig like : http://puu.sh/vQxCj.jpg
2017-05-15 01:34 Monstrata: but this causes 00:33:557 (2) - to be really off so im replacing it with a different and more vertical slider
2017-05-15 01:34 Monstrata: http://puu.sh/vQxDd.jpg
2017-05-15 01:35 Monstrata: i set the slider up so its diagonally symmetrical
2017-05-15 01:35 Monstrata: basically Ctrl+> then Ctrl+H
2017-05-15 01:35 Monstrata: for 00:45:418 (3,4,1) -
2017-05-15 01:35 Monstrata: first im going to make 00:45:418 (3,4) - a linear pattern, so i'll point the slider away from 3's slider tail
2017-05-15 01:36 Monstrata: http://puu.sh/vQxGc.jpg
2017-05-15 01:36 Monstrata: then instead of foing upward
2017-05-15 01:36 Monstrata: http://puu.sh/vQxH5.jpg im going to go rightward
2017-05-15 01:36 Monstrata: and create a triangle like this instead
2017-05-15 01:37 Monstrata: and that'll fix the flow cuz now it creates a linear pattern too and removes the sharp angle
2017-05-15 01:37 Monstrata: tbh fixing mods is sometimes like solving a puzzle lol
2017-05-15 01:37 Dunois: lmao
2017-05-15 01:37 Monstrata: you're trying to fix a problem without creating a billion other problems my moving stuff around
2017-05-15 01:38 Dunois: yeah
2017-05-15 01:38 Monstrata: 01:19:360 (1,2,3) - for this. im just going to delete and redo the pattern
2017-05-15 01:38 Monstrata: but im going to map it backwards starting with the 3rd slider
2017-05-15 01:38 Monstrata: so i'll create the blanket first
2017-05-15 01:39 Monstrata: http://puu.sh/vQxLe.jpg then the first slider
2017-05-15 01:39 Monstrata: now i flip it around
2017-05-15 01:39 Monstrata: http://puu.sh/vQxMh.jpg
2017-05-15 01:40 Monstrata: now i'll move the entire 01:20:708 (4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5) - down a bit
2017-05-15 01:40 Monstrata: this is almost good, except now http://puu.sh/vQxNq.jpg is kinda messed up but thats fine since 01:24:753 (1) - is a stand-alone slider
2017-05-15 01:40 Monstrata: if the slider is stand alone, then its easier to manipulate
2017-05-15 01:41 Monstrata: so: http://puu.sh/vQxOX.jpg
2017-05-15 01:41 Monstrata: i curve the slider a bit more and
2017-05-15 01:41 Monstrata: done
2017-05-15 01:43 Monstrata: oh
2017-05-15 01:43 Monstrata: 01:56:438 (5,6) - i'll move this down a bit
2017-05-15 01:43 Monstrata: same idea as 02:01:832 (5,6) -
2017-05-15 01:43 Monstrata: equidistance
2017-05-15 01:43 Monstrata: between the two sliders
2017-05-15 01:44 Monstrata: okay thats all
2017-05-15 01:45 Monstrata: i think nazi modders will now focus on blankets and linear patterns being off etc...
2017-05-15 01:45 Monstrata: but im 95% sure i've covered every other conceivable issue now
2017-05-15 01:45 Monstrata: 01:46:326 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - the only pattern im not 100% sure on is this. since it looks rather messy and feels like more interesting slider designs could have been used, but thats subjective
2017-05-15 01:46 Monstrata: so it's something we'll just have to wait for modders to point out (if they do)
2017-05-15 01:47 Dunois:
2017-05-15 01:47 Dunois: :d
2017-05-15 01:47 Monstrata: alright time to open my queue and get more mods
2017-05-15 01:48 Monstrata: there are some issues with hitsounding on highest diff so
2017-05-15 01:48 Monstrata: im not going to copy yet
2017-05-15 01:49 Monstrata: once i resolve the hitsound issue i'll copy so there won't be issues later