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CucumberCuc

Joined January 2016

CucumberCuc 2017-04-21T14:36:27+00:00

Привет :3

прежде чем начать, ты можешь поставить kiai в этих промежутках времени: 01:27:702 до 02:10:848 ещё 03:39:836 до 04:22:983 и 04:33:769 до 04:55:342 если тебе не понравиться что у тебя слишком долго kiai или AiMod будет жаловаться, то можешь уменьшить или убрать одну из тайминг секций kiai'я

[<3]
00:44:556 (1,2) советую удалить кружок и заместо него поставить слайдер, т.к. там идёт вокал (можешь слайдер сделать от 00:44:556 до 00:46:072)
00:48:601 и 00:48:769 тут у тебя идут два звука, можешь на них поставить кружки
00:53:994 и 00:54:162 ^
00:49:949 ^
00:56:353 ^
00:59:050 ^
00:59:724 ^
01:01:747 ^ но это всё на твой выбор,
01:25:005 (1,2) мне кажется эти слайдеры далековаты, уменьшить их дальность?
02:53:488 и 02:53:825 у тебя тут есть сильные звуки, поставь на них кружки
02:57:870 тоже есть звук, хоть и не сильный, но всё же не стоит пропускать

классная карта, удачи

PandaHero

662 posts

Joined November 2011

Topic Starter

PandaHero 2017-04-21T15:04:55+00:00

CucumberCuc wrote:
Привет :3

прежде чем начать, ты можешь поставить kiai в этих промежутках времени: 01:27:702 до 02:10:848 ещё 03:39:836 до 04:22:983 и 04:33:769 до 04:55:342 если тебе не понравиться что у тебя слишком долго kiai или AiMod будет жаловаться, то можешь уменьшить или убрать одну из тайминг секций kiai'я
Я думала об этом, наверное всё-таки влеплю их куда-нибудь.
[<3]
02:57:870 тоже есть звук, хоть и не сильный, но всё же не стоит пропускать
В этой части я решила маппать только под ударные, поэтому успешно игнорю всё остальное.
классная карта, удачи

Спасибо

tokiko

215 posts

Joined June 2013

tokiko 2017-04-21T15:10:03+00:00

CucumberCuc wrote:
Привет :3

прежде чем начать, ты можешь поставить kiai в этих промежутках времени: 01:27:702 до 02:10:848 ещё 03:39:836 до 04:22:983 и 04:33:769 до 04:55:342 если тебе не понравиться что у тебя слишком долго kiai или AiMod будет жаловаться, то можешь уменьшить или убрать одну из тайминг секций kiai'я

[<3]
00:44:556 (1,2) советую удалить кружок и заместо него поставить слайдер, т.к. там идёт вокал (можешь слайдер сделать от 00:44:556 до 00:46:072)
00:48:601 и 00:48:769 тут у тебя идут два звука, можешь на них поставить кружки я мапал загадочные звуки на фоне, а кружок пускай останется
00:53:994 и 00:54:162 ^
00:49:949 ^
00:56:353 ^
00:59:050 ^
00:59:724 ^
01:01:747 ^ но это всё на твой выбор, все эти крышечки указывают на мой ответ выше, поэтому да
01:25:005 (1,2) мне кажется эти слайдеры далековаты, уменьшить их дальность? совсем немного уменьшил, правда мне кажется,
что от этого ничего не изменилось
02:53:488 и 02:53:825 у тебя тут есть сильные звуки, поставь на них кружки в этом месте я мапал другие абстрактные звуки, вот такой я странный

классная карта, удачи

спасибо

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-LynX-

131 posts

Joined December 2013

-LynX- 2017-04-22T10:30:38+00:00

returning mod

<3

00:20:792 (2) - i think you can remove this circle, it's doesn't represent anything in the music. the previous pattern 00:15:398 - doesn't have a circle too
00:55:342 (1,1,1) - i think you can use different slider shapes to represent these growls, since you have used these shapes before. i recommend using shapes with red anchors
01:25:342 (2,4) - i suggest swapping 2 and 4 on the timeline, so it becomes like this https://puu.sh/vsnLr/5047596917.jpg
01:29:724 (4) - i don't think a 3/4 slider should be used here, as you're missing a pretty strong drum beat on the red tick. same for these 01:33:769 (4) - 01:35:117 (6) - 01:40:511 (4) - 01:44:556 (4) - 01:45:904 (6) -
01:33:095 (1) - for this beat, a 3/4 slider will be appropriate imo
01:37:140 (1) - this slider looks weird imo, may want to delete one of the white anchors
01:46:578 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - oooh nice
01:57:870 (2,3,4) - there's a pretty strong drum beat on 2's slider-tail, i recommend doing this https://puu.sh/vsoaD/590243b9c5.png
01:59:724 (5) - perhaps ctrl+g this, helps with flow imo
03:05:623 (1,1,1,1) - i don't think you need to NC these
03:11:185 (3,3,3) - NC these because of s.v. change
03:15:567 (1,2) - 03:22:983 (1) - i suggest changing the slider shapes to make it more "violent", like this 03:17:589 (1) -
03:24:836 (2,1) - i think the spacing from 2->1 is slightly large, may want to decrease it slightly, it's only a 1/4 gap
03:28:039 (3,4) - why the sudden increase in spacing here? maybe make it similar to 03:27:702 (1,2) -
03:33:601 (4,1) - this spacing is definitely too big, since the flow is going upwards from 1->2->3->4 in 03:33:095 (1,2,3,4) - then suddenly 03:33:769 (1) - is at the bottom of the screen which breaks the flow. i suggest decreasing the spacing or put 03:33:769 (1) - to the left of 03:33:601 (4) -
03:34:780 (2,3,4) - this is personal preference, but i would NC these due to s.v. change, but you can leave it as it is now since it's only +0.10x
03:41:859 (3) - this NC is a must though, significant s.v. change
03:47:252 (5) - NC
03:52:645 (3) - NC
04:01:409 (1,2) - may want to silence slider-tails
04:17:084 (4) - this seems a bit random, maybe just make it a circle
04:49:275 (4) - extended slider skipping a strong beat on the red tick

that's all from me, good luck on your map! i had lots of fun playing it

PandaHero

662 posts

Joined November 2011

Topic Starter

PandaHero 2017-04-22T15:05:38+00:00

-LynX- wrote:
returning mod
<3
00:20:792 (2) - i think you can remove this circle, it's doesn't represent anything in the music. the previous pattern 00:15:398 - doesn't have a circle too
ok
00:55:342 (1,1,1) - i think you can use different slider shapes to represent these growls, since you have used these shapes before. i recommend using shapes with red anchors red anchors is my enemies in a manner
01:25:342 (2,4) - i suggest swapping 2 and 4 on the timeline, so it becomes like this https://puu.sh/vsnLr/5047596917.jpg oke
01:29:724 (4) - i don't think a 3/4 slider should be used here, as you're missing a pretty strong drum beat on the red tick. same for these 01:33:769 (4) - 01:35:117 (6) - 01:40:511 (4) - 01:44:556 (4) - 01:45:904 (6) -
In this part I follow one sound and it's not a drums, so let these sliders be 3/4
01:33:095 (1) - for this beat, a 3/4 slider will be appropriate imo
You're right, but I keep circle here because I want to make more different patterns
01:37:140 (1) - this slider looks weird imo, may want to delete one of the white anchors
I like this slider
01:46:578 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - oooh nice
I agree!
01:57:870 (2,3,4) - there's a pretty strong drum beat on 2's slider-tail, i recommend doing this https://puu.sh/vsoaD/590243b9c5.png
It will be boring
01:59:724 (5) - perhaps ctrl+g this, helps with flow imo
It's doesn't feel better, so no changes
03:05:623 (1,1,1,1) - i don't think you need to NC these
These nc's doesn't looks well, I'll change it
03:11:185 (3,3,3) - NC these because of s.v. change
ye, sure
03:15:567 (1,2) - 03:22:983 (1) - i suggest changing the slider shapes to make it more "violent", like this 03:17:589 (1) -
Hm, I think it's not really necessary here ~_~
03:24:836 (2,1) - i think the spacing from 2->1 is slightly large, may want to decrease it slightly, it's only a 1/4 gap
Okay, moved 03:25:005 (1) - a little bit down
03:28:039 (3,4) - why the sudden increase in spacing here? maybe make it similar to 03:27:702 (1,2) -
Nerf it a bit
03:33:601 (4,1) - this spacing is definitely too big, since the flow is going upwards from 1->2->3->4 in 03:33:095 (1,2,3,4) - then suddenly 03:33:769 (1) - is at the bottom of the screen which breaks the flow. i suggest decreasing the spacing or put 03:33:769 (1) - to the left of 03:33:601 (4) -
Changed, but in another way
03:34:780 (2,3,4) - this is personal preference, but i would NC these due to s.v. change, but you can leave it as it is now since it's only +0.10x
It can be read well without it, so no changes
03:41:859 (3) - this NC is a must though, significant s.v. change
Oh, I didn't notice it, lol
03:47:252 (5) - NC
03:52:645 (3) - NC
ok
04:01:409 (1,2) - may want to silence slider-tails
ye, sounds better
04:49:275 (4) - extended slider skipping a strong beat on the red tick
okay, made 1/2 slider here

that's all from me, good luck on your map! i had lots of fun playing it

Thanks~

Delis

1,433 posts

Joined May 2012

Delis 2017-04-24T12:11:18+00:00

privet russian people, from my queue ~w~
[General]
chireiden in tags isn't really a bad idea as it's a reading of the source.
normal-hitfinish2.wav is unused.

[<3]
00:28:713 - having a break from here feels wrong since the music continues, the intensity doesn't change anything here. I would map the rest of the part or insert a break at 00:22:983 - to make a break more reasonable.
01:04:780 (1,2,3,4,5) - I was expecting a circular-ish (or it's called a curved) stream here because the flow suddenly went to straight and it doesn't really fit with the patterns you've done around such as the square. any of curved stream like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7910182 would work better than just linear one.
01:16:915 - I kinda disagree with this sv change because it's too sudden and too intense in comparison. the sv is much higher than kiai even though the intensity of music is lower, maybe x1.0 fits best there.
01:37:140 (1) - uh, could you improve the slider shape a bit.
01:41:859 (3) - YOLO SLIDER
02:03:432 (4) - this 3/4 slider doesn't really fit best here because of the beat at 02:03:601 - other than that all sliders work fine.
02:20:960 (5,6,7,8,9) - again the flow is more like circular than linear, this one is perhaps more my preference as it works fine as is. though I still prefer a curved stream here.
02:22:477 (3,4) - I found swapping all of them is more fun/comfy to play like your collab partner did on his part (the beginning of map) or you did similar 02:31:409 (2,3) - here. they all currently play too repetitive with less cursor movements that could be somehow boring, mixing them with current ones and swapped ones would be nice as well only if you don't really mind the inconsistency.
02:52:983 (3) - a nc here could be nice with those sharp jumps.
03:40:848 (5,6) - being parallel with 03:40:511 (4) - should be good rather than just one which feels a bit random to people including me. https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7910319
03:48:263 (1,1) - you should make the curves differently because 03:47:926 (1,1) - are almost the same lol.
03:59:724 (1,2,3,4,5) - im ded with this aww. well just optional, but you could've placed them at x1.1 because 03:59:050 (1,2,3,4) - are at x0.9 and 03:59:387 (1,2,3,4) - are x1.0.
04:01:409 - maybe map a bit more intense? the song isn't calm enough to have a such slowly mapping. well I'm pretty fine with your current mapping here so just suggesting to add some more objects to fulfill some empties which means please follow the vocals more!!.
04:54:668 (3) - I don't really think anything wrong with having a reduction the slider into a 1/2 here, the beat at 04:54:836 - is quite noticeable and this makes me feeling wrong with current rhythm.

yay russian mapping is cool stuff! wub parts are great.

PandaHero

662 posts

Joined November 2011

Topic Starter

PandaHero 2017-04-24T16:12:55+00:00

Delis wrote:
privet russian people, from my queue ~w~ privet, my japanese friend
[General]
chireiden in tags isn't really a bad idea as it's a reading of the source. added, thank you o.o
normal-hitfinish2.wav is unused. removed

[<3]
00:28:713 - having a break from here feels wrong since the music continues, the intensity doesn't change anything here. I would map the rest of the part or insert a break at 00:22:983 - to make a break more reasonable.
okay, I mapped rest of the part
01:37:140 (1) - uh, could you improve the slider shape a bit.
okay dad
01:41:859 (3) - YOLO SLIDER wut? o.o
02:03:432 (4) - this 3/4 slider doesn't really fit best here because of the beat at 02:03:601 - other than that all sliders work fine.
Made a 1/2 slider and added note on blue tick
04:54:668 (3) - I don't really think anything wrong with having a reduction the slider into a 1/2 here, the beat at 04:54:836 - is quite noticeable and this makes me feeling wrong with current rhythm.
You're right, made a 1/2 slider here

yay russian mapping is cool stuff! wub parts are great.

Thank you ^_^

Ellyu

429 posts

Joined May 2014

Ellyu 2017-04-25T03:26:44+00:00

Hi from my q.

[you two guys got really different style lol]
01:26:353 (1,2,3,4) - make the space larger to emphasize the strong beat here
01:27:365 (3,1) - better to not overlap them
01:37:056 (7,1) - add stream jump here
02:09:499 (1) - avoid overlap itself to make it more clean https://puu.sh/vvkej/b1c7f098fc.png
02:21:634 (1) - to 02:42:870 (3) - dude do more works here. this pattern really boring. especially when it's half a minute long.
02:43:207 make this clickable
03:04:443 (3) - https://puu.sh/vvkup/589f200b64.png how about this? cuz there is obvious beat on the blue tick
03:08:488 (3,4) - ctrl+g? to emphasize 03:08:825 (1) - better.
03:15:230 (5,1) - better not overlap them
03:16:072 add a triplet here or add a 1/4 slider
03:23:488 (1) - remove nc and add nc at 03:23:657 (2) -
03:34:443 (1,2,3,4) - nv each of them to keep consistence with 03:23:657 (2,1,1) -
03:48:263 (1,1) - enhance the sv or remove the nc
04:01:409 (1,2,3) - replace them with circles to keep the circle-only-feature at these protion(but tbh this feature is a bit boring ;w;)
04:04:106 (3) - 04:04:780 (3) - same as^
04:17:084 (4,5) - same as^ so triplet better here.
04:33:348 (8,9) - add a stream jump here
05:16:915 (5) - add nc

tokiko

215 posts

Joined June 2013

tokiko 2017-04-25T08:40:27+00:00

Delis wrote:
privet russian people, from my queue ~w~

[<3]
01:04:780 (1,2,3,4,5) - I was expecting a circular-ish (or it's called a curved) stream here because the flow suddenly went to straight and it doesn't really fit with the patterns you've done around such as the square. any of curved stream like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7910182 would work better than just linear one. aga
01:16:915 - I kinda disagree with this sv change because it's too sudden and too intense in comparison. the sv is much higher than kiai even though the intensity of music is lower, maybe x1.0 fits best there. yeah
02:20:960 (5,6,7,8,9) - again the flow is more like circular than linear, this one is perhaps more my preference as it works fine as is. though I still prefer a curved stream here. i like the linear one
02:22:477 (3,4) - I found swapping all of them is more fun/comfy to play like your collab partner did on his part (the beginning of map) or you did similar 02:31:409 (2,3) - here. they all currently play too repetitive with less cursor movements that could be somehow boring, mixing them with current ones and swapped ones would be nice as well only if you don't really mind the inconsistency. tried to make something good, but i think that i just broke everything
02:52:983 (3) - a nc here could be nice with those sharp jumps. хорошо
03:40:848 (5,6) - being parallel with 03:40:511 (4) - should be good rather than just one which feels a bit random to people including me. https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7910319 okay sure НО БЛАНКЕТА БОЛЬШЕ НЕТ ЫЫЫЫ(((((((((((((
03:48:263 (1,1) - you should make the curves differently because 03:47:926 (1,1) - are almost the same lol. oke
03:59:724 (1,2,3,4,5) - im ded with this aww. well just optional, but you could've placed them at x1.1 because 03:59:050 (1,2,3,4) - are at x0.9 and 03:59:387 (1,2,3,4) - are x1.0. didn't notice this before, thank you
04:01:409 - maybe map a bit more intense? the song isn't calm enough to have a such slowly mapping. well I'm pretty fine with your current mapping here so just suggesting to add some more objects to fulfill some empties which means please follow the vocals more!!. will try later!!

yay russian mapping is cool stuff! wub parts are great.

spasibo mister delis!

Ellyu wrote:
Hi from my q. where is my muscle ;;

[you two guys got really different style lol]
01:26:353 (1,2,3,4) - make the space larger to emphasize the strong beat here okay!
02:21:634 (1) - to 02:42:870 (3) - dude do more works here. this pattern really boring. especially when it's half a minute long. i think you already know about my love to map with boring patterns -w-
02:43:207 make this clickable added a note here
03:48:263 (1,1) - enhance the sv or remove the nc nc removed
04:01:409 (1,2,3) - replace them with circles to keep the circle-only-feature at these protion(but tbh this feature is a bit boring ;w;) with only circles it will be even more boring!
04:04:106 (3) - 04:04:780 (3) - same as^_^
04:17:084 (4,5) - same as^ so triplet better here. i wanted to emphasize the ВЖИК sound with that slider
05:16:915 (5) - add nc uu.. nazi nc

thank you!!

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AtHeoN

412 posts

Joined July 2012

AtHeoN 2017-04-25T10:17:35+00:00

QUICKMOD?!

PandaHero

00:15:398 - put a note here 00:14:050 (2) - like you did here
00:20:792 - ^
01:33:095 (1) - 01:27:702 (1) - 01:31:747 (1) - consistency pls
01:34:275 (1,2,3,4,5) - 01:45:061 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - consistency pls
01:32:252 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - 01:43:039 (3,4,5,6,7) - ^
01:40:342 (3,4) - 01:29:556 (3,4) - ^
01:56:016 (1,2,3) - not much dfiferent from other 01:49:275 (1) - 01:51:971 (1) - etc
01:57:870 (2) - i am not a fan of this rhythm because you're skipping a strong beat 01:58:039 - here and it's not consistent with 01:49:275 (1,2,3) - these
01:49:275 - 02:10:848 - overall the whole section needs remapping because it's very inconsistent in rhythm choice
02:59:050 (3,4) - triple pls
03:00:398 (1) - 03:01:747 (3) - if you are already putting speed ups then make them consistent at least
03:08:320 (2,3,4,1) - either make this like the previous ones or stack 03:05:623 (2) - 03:06:971 (2) - 03:09:668 (2) - to the sliderheads
03:38:572 - 03:39:162 - spinner here pls and after that 03:39:331 - a note here
04:28:039 (3,4) - triple maybe?
04:35:117 (1,2,3) - 04:37:814 (1,2,3) - maybe same spacing?
04:48:601 (1,2,3,4) - i think you should stick with the rhythm you used before on this too, because you're not trying to follow the vocals on the previous sections anyways

tokiko

01:03:769 (3) - make 1/2 notes because it's not much different from the rest of that
01:06:129 (1,2) - make it have consistent spacing and for every other pair after that
01:15:230 (4,1) - blanket is off
01:15:230 (4,1,2) - align this to be a triangle
01:16:072 (2,3) - you stack all the previous ones but not on this
01:16:578 (4,5) - a triple would be better imo
01:18:263 (1,2,3,4,5) - make a star maybe?
01:21:634 (1,2,1) - triangle maybe?
01:26:353 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - blanket the 01:27:027 (1) - like this? then align the rest a bit better
02:51:297 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4,1,2) - i like this part :>
03:39:836 - the sv in this kiai is soo unintuitive to play
04:01:409 - this part is sooo underwhelming for it being a chorus part mainly 04:01:409 (1,2,3) -
both parts will need a lot of remapping because right now the section in terms of playability/readability is very awful
04:55:342 - this part complements the sv much better than the kiai

that's all w

PandaHero

662 posts

Joined November 2011

Topic Starter

PandaHero 2017-04-25T15:52:05+00:00

Ellyu wrote:
Hi from my q.

[you two guys got really different style lol] You're the first guy who said it o.o
01:27:365 (3,1) - better to not overlap them
We overlaped it because of 1/4 gap and I think it's okay
01:37:056 (7,1) - add stream jump here
For what?
02:09:499 (1) - avoid overlap itself to make it more clean https://puu.sh/vvkej/b1c7f098fc.png
okay
03:04:443 (3) - https://puu.sh/vvkup/589f200b64.png how about this? cuz there is obvious beat on the blue tick
Nooo, this is too hard for this place, also I prefer to follow non-drums sounds here.
03:08:488 (3,4) - ctrl+g? to emphasize 03:08:825 (1) - better.
Hm, okay
03:15:230 (5,1) - better not overlap them
Same as before, 1/4 between objects
03:16:072 add a triplet here or add a 1/4 slider
I prefer to map only wubs here
03:23:488 (1) - remove nc and add nc at 03:23:657 (2) -
I did it before, but I like how current nc's looks, so no changes here
03:34:443 (1,2,3,4) - nv each of them to keep consistence with 03:23:657 (2,1,1) -
ok
04:33:348 (8,9) - add a stream jump here
For what? o.o

AtHeoN wrote:
QUICKMOD?!
PandaHero
00:15:398 - put a note here 00:14:050 (2) - like you did here
00:20:792 - ^
Actually notes like these 00:14:050 (2) is kind of overmap, but I use it for creating more interesting rhythm in this part. I put it on vocal, not drums.
01:33:095 (1) - 01:27:702 (1) - 01:31:747 (1) - consistency pls
01:33:095 (1) - this instrument sounds shorter than in other places for me, so I decided to put note instead of slider
01:34:275 (1,2,3,4,5) - 01:45:061 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - consistency pls
Remaked 01:45:061 (1,2,3,4,5,6)
01:32:252 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - 01:43:039 (3,4,5,6,7) - ^
It called "variations of the same things", it's okay
01:40:342 (3,4) - 01:29:556 (3,4) - ^
It's okay for me
01:56:016 (1,2,3) - not much dfiferent from other 01:49:275 (1) - 01:51:971 (1) - etc
In this part I emphasize a vocal through the slider's forms, it's okay
01:57:870 (2) - i am not a fan of this rhythm because you're skipping a strong beat 01:58:039 - here and it's not consistent with 01:49:275 (1,2,3) - these
I love this rhythm (also read previous explanation)
01:49:275 - 02:10:848 - overall the whole section needs remapping because it's very inconsistent in rhythm choice
I love my rhythm choice in this part and it consistent enough
02:59:050 (3,4) - triple pls
Sounds a bit overmapped, so no triplets here
03:00:398 (1) - 03:01:747 (3) - if you are already putting speed ups then make them consistent at least
03:01:747 (3) - vocal here is not ready for it (not so strong as before)
03:08:320 (2,3,4,1) - either make this like the previous ones or stack 03:05:623 (2) - 03:06:971 (2) - 03:09:668 (2) - to the sliderheads
It's not necessary here
03:38:572 - 03:39:162 - spinner here pls and after that 03:39:331 - a note here
I think a little pause will be better for tired player
04:28:039 (3,4) - triple maybe?
Same as before
04:35:117 (1,2,3) - 04:37:814 (1,2,3) - maybe same spacing?
ye
04:48:601 (1,2,3,4) - i think you should stick with the rhythm you used before on this too, because you're not trying to follow the vocals on the previous sections anyways
Vocal is a most noticeable thing here, so I decided to give a player chance to play it.
that's all w

thanks guys~

tokiko

215 posts

Joined June 2013

tokiko 2017-04-29T18:57:33+00:00

AtHeoN wrote:
QUICKMOD?!

tokiko
01:03:769 (3) - make 1/2 notes because it's not much different from the rest of that nah, i wanted to emphasize the "ВРУММ" sound
01:06:129 (1,2) - make it have consistent spacing and for every other pair after that if that so important - okay
01:15:230 (4,1) - blanket is off k
01:15:230 (4,1,2) - align this to be a triangle i'm fine withe the current placement
01:16:072 (2,3) - you stack all the previous ones but not on this because i hear other sounds here
01:16:578 (4,5) - a triple would be better imo it's.. a triple.. already.. ?
01:18:263 (1,2,3,4,5) - make a star maybe? i like sloppy stars
01:21:634 (1,2,1) - triangle maybe? naaah
01:26:353 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - blanket the 01:27:027 (1) - like this? then align the rest a bit better okie
02:51:297 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4,1,2) - i like this part :> me too!
03:39:836 - the sv in this kiai is soo unintuitive to play depends on the player.. maybe
04:01:409 - this part is sooo underwhelming for it being a chorus part mainly 04:01:409 (1,2,3) -
both parts will need a lot of remapping because right now the section in terms of playability/readability is very awful i think it's fine..
04:55:342 - this part complements the sv much better than the kiai =)

that's all w

thank you

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97,187,296942,1,2,0:3:0:0:
145,182,297027,1,2,0:3:0:0:
179,147,297112,1,2,0:3:0:0:
213,112,297196,1,2,0:3:0:0:
261,107,297281,1,2,0:3:0:0:
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406,169,297702,102,2,P|341:242|472:240,1,267.299991842652,6|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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307,44,299387,22,0,L|344:44,1,24.75,2|2,0:3|0:3,0:3:0:0:
412,104,299556,2,0,L|387:104,1,24.75,2|2,0:3|0:3,0:3:0:0:
312,168,299724,2,0,L|349:168,1,24.75,2|2,0:3|0:3,0:3:0:0:
412,236,299893,2,0,L|387:236,1,24.75,2|2,0:3|0:3,0:3:0:0:
288,284,300061,6,0,L|292:344,1,49.5,10|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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104,164,300567,2,0,L|108:204,1,24.75,6|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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216,44,301409,2,2,L|228:148,1,99,10|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
388,220,302084,85,2,0:3:0:0:
377,172,302168,1,2,0:3:0:0:
334,150,302252,1,2,0:3:0:0:
290,171,302336,1,2,0:3:0:0:
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264,262,302505,1,2,0:3:0:0:
220,283,302589,1,2,0:3:0:0:
177,261,302674,1,2,0:3:0:0:
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120,80,303095,102,2,P|192:136|268:12,1,267.299991842652,6|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
352,100,303432,6,0,L|464:104,1,111.375004248619,6|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
496,180,303769,2,0,L|384:184,1,111.375004248619,10|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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488,336,304443,2,0,L|376:340,1,111.375004248619,10|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
304,368,304780,6,2,B|260:372|260:372|208:364,1,79.2,6|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
134,336,305286,1,4,0:0:0:0:
96,248,305454,2,2,B|136:240|136:240|188:240,1,79.2,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
244,172,305960,1,4,0:0:0:0:
184,96,306129,102,2,L|80:92,1,99,6|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
244,172,306803,2,2,B|296:180|296:180|342:168,1,99,10|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
423,86,307477,85,2,0:3:0:0:
372,84,307561,1,2,0:3:0:0:
340,120,307645,1,2,0:3:0:0:
340,168,307729,1,2,0:3:0:0:
373,202,307814,1,2,0:3:0:0:
421,203,307899,1,2,0:3:0:0:
459,233,307983,1,2,0:3:0:0:
468,278,308067,1,2,0:3:0:0:
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328,260,308488,102,2,P|316:352|200:280,1,267.299991842652,6|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
176,220,308825,6,2,L|164:324,1,99,6|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
116,148,309499,2,2,B|168:140|168:140|236:144,1,99,10|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
308,180,310174,6,0,L|352:176,1,24.75,2|2,0:3|0:3,0:3:0:0:
412,244,310342,2,0,L|368:240,1,24.75,2|2,0:3|0:3,0:3:0:0:
328,76,310511,2,0,L|372:72,1,24.75,2|2,0:3|0:3,0:3:0:0:
432,140,310679,2,0,L|388:136,1,24.75,2|2,0:3|0:3,0:3:0:0:
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224,204,314893,2,0,L|228:300,1,74.25,6|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
312,344,315231,2,0,L|315:269,1,74.25,10|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
136,256,315567,102,2,B|140:300|140:300|132:340,1,79.2,6|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
80,184,316072,1,4,0:0:0:0:
145,118,316241,2,2,B|152:84|152:84|148:40,1,79.2,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
224,169,316747,1,4,0:0:0:0:
289,103,316915,5,0,0:0:0:0:

xDololow

467 posts

Joined July 2014

xDololow 2017-05-03T09:33:38+00:00

Domo /

[Генерал]
Надо бы выключить Widescreen support, если не планируете добавлять СБ.
Какой-то странный битрейт http://prntscr.com/f3joe0 :thonkenk:

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02:53:488 - здесь не хватает кружочка
02:55:005 (3) - тут нужно бы добавить слайдер до красной линии или добавить на неё круг.
02:56:353 (3) - ^
02:57:702 (3) - ^
04:17:084 (4) - зачем слайдер? Он не вписывается визуально и по звуку.

Особо нечего такого сказать

(слишком хорошая мапа >:[ ) . Удачи

lyrics xd

PandaHero

662 posts

Joined November 2011

Topic Starter

PandaHero 2017-05-03T13:42:31+00:00

xDololow wrote:
Domo /

[Генерал]
Надо бы выключить Widescreen support, если не планируете добавлять СБ.
Странно, я вроде его не включала
Какой-то странный битрейт http://prntscr.com/f3joe0 :thonkenk:
Нормальный битрейт, главное что не больше 192

[owo]
02:53:488 - здесь не хватает кружочка
Могу сказать, что там нет и звука, которым до этого следовал маппер, так что всё нормально
02:55:005 (3) - тут нужно бы добавить слайдер до красной линии или добавить на неё круг.
Круг точно нет, слишком слабый звук для того, чтобы быть кликабельным, а 1/2 слайдер просто руинит всю мою систему, поэтому пусть остаются нотками. Считай, что это андермап в угоду следования настроению музыки здесь.
02:56:353 (3) - ^
02:57:702 (3) - ^
^
04:17:084 (4) - зачем слайдер? Он не вписывается визуально и по звуку.
Нет, как раз по звуку вписывается, маппер советует удалить слайдер и послушать этот момент на 75% рейте
Особо нечего такого сказать (слишком хорошая мапа >:[ ) . Удачи

lyrics xd
Читала текст на тоховики, но спасибо за картинку. Вообще можно было бы попробовать сделать сториборд с текстом и прочими приколюхами, но для этого у меня слишком кривые руки.

Спасибо за такой неожиданный мод о.о

TheMefisto

403 posts

Joined August 2014

TheMefisto 2017-05-03T16:21:57+00:00

Hi. Mod from Neilperry (posted as per his request)

00:14:893 (1,2) - proceeding your overall conception of beginning you can stack this as well.
00:45:061 (2) - NC this to emphase music and pattering change. It will be fit more for your future NC structure
01:06:129 - 01:16:915 im rly disagree with this rythm conception in this part. Before you emphase more strong sounds, now you start follow only beats. Will be cool to emphase thous tripples in sound and other things.
01:27:365 (7) - NC this to emphase sv change and strong wub sound
01:33:769 (4,4) - you can avoid this kind of overlaps. Your map will looks more clean and smart. 01:41:016 (6,3) - but this looks good
01:46:409 (8) - same asbout bad overlapping
01:51:971 (1) - make wave shape more neat
01:59:724 (5) - bad idea to make perfect angle of this slider. you can follow this angle 01:58:376 (3,4) - https://puu.sh/vDTdY/fffab0b1ee.jpg it will structure pattern better
02:19:612 (3) - NC this to show that you continue map with 1\1 and got better emphase on 1\2 rythm in next pattern
02:42:365 - use this to emphase vocal
02:53:320 (1,2,1) - just wanna offer you to make sliders with rising SV. It will follow sound better
03:02:758 - why you skip this? You emphase that kind of vocal before
03:03:938 (2) - make shape more perfect like this https://puu.sh/vDTB6/6b346d738e.jpg
In your wub part i wanna to offer you continue sliders. 03:18:263 (1) - for example: this wub sound ends only on last blue tick https://puu.sh/vDTIo/edae94274e.jpg try continue all sliders like this (not shape on pic xd)
03:33:769 (1) - make it more neat
03:45:230 (1,4) - angles of this slider different. make the same to more neat structure

Im rly impressed of some parts. Pretty cool spacing gaps and overall space concept. For me this map need some visual work with angles and shapes.
Best of luck o/

PandaHero

662 posts

Joined November 2011

Topic Starter

PandaHero 2017-05-03T21:30:09+00:00

TheMefisto wrote:
Hi. Mod from Neilperry (posted as per his request)

00:14:893 (1,2) - proceeding your overall conception of beginning you can stack this as well.
I changed concept of stacking for this part (00:12:196 - 00:22:983), so full stacks is usual things here
01:33:769 (4,4) - you can avoid this kind of overlaps. Your map will looks more clean and smart.
okie
01:41:016 (6,3) - but this looks good
^_^
01:46:409 (8) - same asbout bad overlapping
Eeeh, actually I don't like this kind of overlaps too, changed
01:51:971 (1) - make wave shape more neat
okke suddenly realised that I'm bad at making wave sliders :\
01:59:724 (5) - bad idea to make perfect angle of this slider. you can follow this angle 01:58:376 (3,4) - https://puu.sh/vDTdY/fffab0b1ee.jpg it will structure pattern better
Okie, changed
02:53:320 (1,2,1) - just wanna offer you to make sliders with rising SV. It will follow sound better
I tried
03:02:758 - why you skip this? You emphase that kind of vocal before
I decided that wubs and drums are more interesting to map here
03:03:938 (2) - make shape more perfect like this https://puu.sh/vDTB6/6b346d738e.jpg
Remake it during sv changes
In your wub part i wanna to offer you continue sliders. 03:18:263 (1) - for example: this wub sound ends only on last blue tick https://puu.sh/vDTIo/edae94274e.jpg try continue all sliders like this (not shape on pic xd oh god, what you did with my map D:)
Okay, I get your point, but I don't want to make edgy wub wub part here (it's not mean that I don't like it xd), especially since both of these sliders should end on blue ticks. I made simple emphasize of wub sounds that suitable and playable for 5* map (also my collab partner did the same in his part) and I think that it isn't bad.
03:33:769 (1) - make it more neat
okay, my dear friend

Im rly impressed of some parts. Pretty cool spacing gaps and overall space concept. For me this map need some visual work with angles and shapes.
Best of luck o/

thank you ^_^

Mitkoff

351 posts

Joined January 2015

Mitkoff 2017-05-04T14:23:32+00:00

День добрый.
NM from q.

[<3]

00:57:702 (4,1) - можно привести спейсинг 01:00:398 (4,1) - 01:03:095 (4,1) - в одинаковых по звучанию местах к одному концепту?
01:03:769 (3) - Если честно, не совсем понимаю, зачем было ставить здесь слайдер. Биты звучат одинаково, и вокал звучит плавно по всему комбо...Вообще, я бы сделал тут переход помягче, если уж хочется все кругами расставлять. Что-то типа https://puu.sh/vFjdI.jpg . Потому что предыдущая секция была довольно медленная и состояла в основном из слайдеров, так что спамить 1/2 резковато. А так 1/2 слайдеры потом 1/2 джампы и затем 1/4 постепенное нарастание, но вы поняли...
01:20:117 (1,1,1,1) - приведите стрим в порядок https://puu.sh/vFjFZ.jpg я имею ввиду тут спейсиг визуально разный и при нет какой-то четкой идеи постепенного увеличения или парного спейсинга, я бы сделал все с 0.35ds или 0.4ds (я указал дс от начал, но если все откопировать по форме все должно красиво сойтись)
01:30:398 (1,3) - бланкет не хотите сделать?
01:29:050 (1) - 1,7 01:30:398 (1) - 1,16 не совсем понятно почему, потому что 01:30:398 - это очень мощный бит, и вроде как все остальные мощные биты вы бафаете спейсингом 01:29:556 (3) - 01:31:072 (4) - 01:29:050 (1) - Я бы посоветовал привести спейсинг на больших белых тиках в порядок , например к 1.7
01:31:747 (1) - тут тоже ^
01:33:769 (4) - опять таки не вижу смысла игнорить кик , учитывая что вуб сауд заканчивается на нем же
01:33:769 (4,5) - стак слетел
01:41:185 (1,2) - хмм, может так https://puu.sh/vFkvf.jpg по ритму
01:59:724 (5,2) - может стакнуть раз уж тут только стаки в этой части
01:49:275 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - Если честно, было бы здорово привести формы слайдеров к как-то единому концепту, чтобы в приделах хотя бы одного комбо они смотрелись закономерно (все с прямыми изгибами,все с необычной формой, все с простыми дугами и из этого строить паттерны), в идеале конечно придумать концепт под целую секцию и ему следовать, сейчас я его не вижу, все формы подобраны рандомно. (Я извиняюсь если тут есть общая идея, но я её не вижу)
02:27:027 (1) - как-то непоследовательно близко к 02:26:690 (4) - после 02:25:342 (4,1) - , стоило хотябы построить треугольник как 02:29:218 (3,4,1) - тут.
02:22:983 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - Тот же комментарий насчет концепции. Только тут нет связи между новыми комбо, кажды раз первый круг имеет новый спейсинг, новый угол... Стабильность в паттернах это прекрасно, но эти паттерны надо связывать тоже с какой-то определенной идеей
02:58:039 (1,2) - 02:53:994 (1,2) - что со спейсингом?
03:45:230 (1,5) - стак
03:47:926 (1,2,3) - обычно такие паттерны строят с увеличением скорости слайдеров, чтобы конец совпадал с началом и изменения показываются более наглядно, дабы это читалось попроще и интересней на вид было
03:53:657 (3,4) - я бы свапнул (ctrl-g) т.к 3 имеет бит помощнее, и это можно отобразить спейсинго
04:41:859 (1,2,3) - сделайте углы переходов одинаковыми http://puu.sh/vFlHN.jpg
04:52:308 (6) - чуть больше изгиб , чтобы "накрыть" 04:52:645 (1) - типа https://puu.sh/vFlOg.jpg
04:53:657 (4,1) -на одну линию по вертикали ....
Часть между 1и2 киаи кажется слабоватой по логике и визуально. Для примера часть после 3 киаи в этом плане намного мощнее. Киаи неплохие.
Медленные части по началу тоже было бы не плохо чекнуть по логике, т.к. на них особенно заметны непоследовательные изменения. В целом неплохо. От меня все.

Удачи~

tokiko

215 posts

Joined June 2013

tokiko 2017-05-04T17:36:26+00:00

thanks NeilFisto

TheMefisto wrote:
Hi. Mod from Neilperry (posted as per his request)

00:45:061 (2) - NC this to emphase music and pattering change. It will be fit more for your future NC structure okay
01:06:129 - 01:16:915 im rly disagree with this rythm conception in this part. Before you emphase more strong sounds, now you start follow only beats. Will be cool to emphase thous tripples in sound and other things. i can't make something good here
01:27:365 (7) - NC this to emphase sv change and strong wub sound okay
02:19:612 (3) - NC this to show that you continue map with 1\1 and got better emphase on 1\2 rythm in next pattern okay
02:42:365 - use this to emphase vocal nah, i don't like that beat
03:45:230 (1,4) - angles of this slider different. make the same to more neat structure corrected

thanks Mitkoff

Mitkoff wrote:
День добрый.
NM from q.

[<3]
00:57:702 (4,1) - можно привести спейсинг 01:00:398 (4,1) - 01:03:095 (4,1) - в одинаковых по звучанию местах к одному концепту? я слышу там разные звуки, поэтому пускай остаётся.
01:03:769 (3) - Если честно, не совсем понимаю, зачем было ставить здесь слайдер. Биты звучат одинаково, и вокал звучит плавно по всему комбо...Вообще, я бы сделал тут переход помягче, если уж хочется все кругами расставлять. Что-то типа https://puu.sh/vFjdI.jpg . Потому что предыдущая секция была довольно медленная и состояла в основном из слайдеров, так что спамить 1/2 резковато. А так 1/2 слайдеры потом 1/2 джампы и затем 1/4 постепенное нарастание, но вы поняли... нужна ИНТЕНСИВНОСТЬ, тем более этот слайдер стоит там не просто так, а потому, что там есть ВРРУМ на заднем плане.
01:20:117 (1,1,1,1) - приведите стрим в порядок https://puu.sh/vFjFZ.jpg я имею ввиду тут спейсиг визуально разный и при нет какой-то четкой идеи постепенного увеличения или парного спейсинга, я бы сделал все с 0.35ds или 0.4ds (я указал дс от начал, но если все откопировать по форме все должно красиво сойтись) какой стрим, это просто слайдеры..
02:27:027 (1) - как-то непоследовательно близко к 02:26:690 (4) - после 02:25:342 (4,1) - , стоило хотябы построить треугольник как 02:29:218 (3,4,1) - тут. 02:25:342 (4,1) - я считаю это более выраженным и сильным, чем это 02:27:027 (1) - (из-за вокала). а делать везде треугольники довольно скучно.
02:22:983 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - Тот же комментарий насчет концепции. Только тут нет связи между новыми комбо, кажды раз первый круг имеет новый спейсинг, новый угол... 😨 Стабильность в паттернах это прекрасно, но эти паттерны надо связывать тоже с какой-то определенной идеей идея - следование битам заднего плана без особого упора на связь между абсолютно каждым паттерном.
03:45:230 (1,5) - стак к.
03:47:926 (1,2,3) - обычно такие паттерны строят с увеличением скорости слайдеров, чтобы конец совпадал с началом и изменения показываются более наглядно, дабы это читалось попроще и интересней на вид было а я захотел сделать так, тем более с чтением у меня проблем нет.
03:53:657 (3,4) - я бы свапнул (ctrl-g) т.к 3 имеет бит помощнее, и это можно отобразить спейсинго это выражено клапом =)

Часть между 1и2 киаи кажется слабоватой по логике и визуально. Для примера часть после 3 киаи в этом плане намного мощнее. Киаи неплохие.
Медленные части по началу тоже было бы не плохо чекнуть по логике, т.к. на них особенно заметны непоследовательные изменения. В целом неплохо. От меня все.

Удачи~

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PandaHero

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PandaHero 2017-05-04T18:49:44+00:00

Mitkoff wrote:
День добрый.
NM from q.

[<3]
01:30:398 (1,3) - бланкет не хотите сделать?
Тогда слайдер будет слишком кругляшом, я такие не делаю обычно, выглядит странно. К тому же тут и без бланкетов всё красиво.
01:29:050 (1) - 1,7 01:30:398 (1) - 1,16 не совсем понятно почему, потому что 01:30:398 - это очень мощный бит, и вроде как все остальные мощные биты вы бафаете спейсингом 01:29:556 (3) - 01:31:072 (4) - 01:29:050 (1) - Я бы посоветовал привести спейсинг на больших белых тиках в порядок , например к 1.7
Руководствуюсь правилом "Чем выше по тону звук, тем больше спейсинг", уж простите мне мой слух.
01:31:747 (1) - тут тоже ^
^
01:33:769 (4) - опять таки не вижу смысла игнорить кик , учитывая что вуб сауд заканчивается на нем же
Вот тут не поняла, какой кик я игнорю? о.о
01:33:769 (4,5) - стак слетел
Понятия не имею, почему они слетают, пофикшено
01:41:185 (1,2) - хмм, может так https://puu.sh/vFkvf.jpg по ритму
А по-моему 01:41:690 не заслуживает ноты, слабовато звучит.
01:59:724 (5,2) - может стакнуть раз уж тут только стаки в этой части
Не вижу причин стакать объекты, которые находятся так далеко, при игре этот оверлап выглядит совсем не раздражающе.
01:49:275 - Если честно, было бы здорово привести формы слайдеров к как-то единому концепту, чтобы в приделах хотя бы одного комбо они смотрелись закономерно (все с прямыми изгибами,все с необычной формой, все с простыми дугами и из этого строить паттерны), в идеале конечно придумать концепт под целую секцию и ему следовать, сейчас я его не вижу, все формы подобраны рандомно. (Я извиняюсь если тут есть общая идея, но я её не вижу)

Использую примерно одни и те же формы, на самом деле, каждый слайдер является визуальным воплощением вокала (там, где это вокал есть), при расстановке опираюсь силу и высоту вокала, опять же (+ общее расположение объектов и флоу). Вот эти слайдеры 01:50:286 (4) - визуализируют ударные под ними, так как вокал сюда не завезли. Единственный мой косяк лишь в том, что я поставила слайдеры уголком не везде, где это было нужно. Надеюсь мой концепт стал для тебя более понятным после этого.
02:58:039 (1,2) - 02:53:994 (1,2) - что со спейсингом?
03:02:421 (2,3,4,5) - странно что к этому месту у тебя нет претензий. На самом деле при таком расстоянии между объектами с точки зрения играбельности абсолютно не принципиально, на каком расстоянии они будут находиться друг от друга, поэтому в данной части плейсмент именно такой, каким ты его видишь.
04:41:859 (1,2,3) - сделайте углы переходов одинаковыми http://puu.sh/vFlHN.jpg
Соре, но когда я слышу этот звук - 04:42:870, мне хочется резко швырнуть слайдер вниз.
04:52:308 (6) - чуть больше изгиб , чтобы "накрыть" 04:52:645 (1) - типа https://puu.sh/vFlOg.jpg
Но там параллельность и ваш любимый бланкет :thinking:
04:53:657 (4,1) -на одну линию по вертикали ....
Тогда этот паттерн будет очень сжато смотреться, так что нет.
Часть между 1и2 киаи кажется слабоватой по логике и визуально. Для примера часть после 3 киаи в этом плане намного мощнее. Киаи неплохие.
Медленные части по началу тоже было бы не плохо чекнуть по логике, т.к. на них особенно заметны непоследовательные изменения. В целом неплохо. От меня все.
Касательно первой медленной части, которая к слову моя, можешь чекнуть ответы на предыдущие моды, я там поясняла, почему она так сделана.

Удачи~

Благодарю за мод

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Lama Poluna

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Lama Poluna 2017-05-08T10:32:01+00:00

[general]

У тебя соурс без точки.
Я бы в артиста поставил Misato(美里) , ибо сейчас все ставят вокалистов в артиста, и по моему это очень правильно.
В теги я бы добавил: Reitaisai 9 ZUN Misty Sumijun Kaito

[PandaHero]

00:01:410 - 00:12:196 - Я бы посоветовал придерживаться какой то логике, ибо ты просто рандомно выделяешь патернами. 00:05:454 (1,2) - вместо этого должны быть ноты как тут 00:02:758 (1,2,1,2) - .
00:28:881 - На самом деле я не вижу смысла замедлять тут, ибо музыка вообще не меняется, можно просто менять патерны как в начале.
00:32:926 - А тут можно замедлить.
01:48:432 (7) - Возможно тут стоит поставить НК, т.к меняется музыка.
02:59:134 - 03:04:527 - 03:09:921 - и т.д - Очень хочу что бы эти биты фоловились.
03:39:331 - ^
04:01:409 (1,2,3) - Если ты мапаешь тут так, то и 04:12:196 - отсюда тоже нужно так.

[tokiko]

01:14:893 - Я бы поставил тут ноту, ибо ты ставишь 01:15:398 (5) - тут. И вообще тут более громкие звуки, тогда да, можно было мисать, но не тут.
01:16:241 - И тут тоже очень хочется.
А если ты отклонишь то что выше, то должен будешь убрать ноту 01:16:747 (6) - отсюда, ибо ранее ты эти звуки не фоловил.
04:55:005 (4) - Мне кажется она лучше слышится и возможно играется на красном тике.
05:05:454 (3) - НК?
05:16:241 (3) - ^

PandaHero

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PandaHero 2017-05-08T21:06:40+00:00

Lama Poluna wrote:
[general]
У тебя соурс без точки.
Добавила.
Я бы в артиста поставил Misato(美里) , ибо сейчас все ставят вокалистов в артиста, и по моему это очень правильно.
Ориентируюсь на тоховики в этом вопросе, думаю что указания вокалиста в тегах будет достаточно.
В теги я бы добавил: Reitaisai 9 ZUN Misty Sumijun Kaito
Хорошо.
[PandaHero]
00:01:410 - 00:12:196 - Я бы посоветовал придерживаться какой то логике, ибо ты просто рандомно выделяешь патернами. 00:05:454 (1,2) - вместо этого должны быть ноты как тут 00:02:758 (1,2,1,2) - .
Тут свою роль сыграл вокал, хоть я и строю ритм под ударные, захотелось захватить этот протяжный слог.
00:28:881 - На самом деле я не вижу смысла замедлять тут, ибо музыка вообще не меняется, можно просто менять патерны как в начале.
Вокал затихает, поэтому слайдеры замедляются
00:32:926 - А тут можно замедлить.
Неплохая идея, сделано.
01:48:432 (7) - Возможно тут стоит поставить НК, т.к меняется музыка.
Не хочу спамить нк в этом месте, точнее не вижу необходимости.
02:59:134 - 03:04:527 - 03:09:921 - и т.д - Очень хочу что бы эти биты фоловились.
Не очень хочу, потому что место спокойное и это будет восприниматься скорее как овермап. К тому же я тут совсем другие звуки фолловлю.
03:39:331 - ^
Сейм, в этом месте я следую совсем другим звукам.
04:01:409 (1,2,3) - Если ты мапаешь тут так, то и 04:12:196 - отсюда тоже нужно так.
Парт не мой, извините
04:55:005 (4) - Мне кажется она лучше слышится и возможно играется на красном тике.
А вот это моё. Так это, там же пусто на красном тике, да и вокал до голубого идёт.

Спасибо~

tokiko

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tokiko 2017-05-08T21:07:04+00:00

Lama Poluna wrote:
[tokiko]
01:14:893 - Я бы поставил тут ноту, ибо ты ставишь 01:15:398 (5) - тут. И вообще тут более громкие звуки, тогда да, можно было мисать, но не тут. здесь нет определённого звука. а дальше я поставил, потому что там нарастание в музыке есть
01:16:241 - И тут тоже очень хочется. тут я как мудак только на биты решил ставить
04:01:409 (1,2,3) - Если ты мапаешь тут так, то и 04:12:196 - отсюда тоже нужно так. разнообразие и всё такое. тем более мне в этом моменте слайдеры не так сильно понравились, как в том
А если ты отклонишь то что выше, то должен будешь убрать ноту 01:16:747 (6) - отсюда, ибо ранее ты эти звуки не фоловил. оке
04:55:005 (4) - Мне кажется она лучше слышится и возможно играется на красном тике. а..?
05:05:454 (3) - НК?
05:16:241 (3) - ^ без нк оно всё лучше выглядит

спасибо

Deramok

213 posts

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Deramok 2017-05-12T03:13:56+00:00

pandahero

01:36:634 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - would look better if it followed the same curvature as 01:37:140 (1) - like http://puu.sh/vNf9l/1c4561027b.jpg
01:48:432 (7) - as opposed to 01:48:938 (9) - it covers two hits, so i'd suggest using something else instead. an easy way to do that would be one single on the head of 9 and then another one on top of 6 or putting a 1/2 slider on 6 as the start of 7 isn't on an important note and is thus more suited to be on a slider end as opposed to what is on it now
01:52:814 (4) - how about stacking this on 3 instead for more emphasis on the held vocal and the snare instead of the kick as you're emphasising the snares a lot in this part
01:51:466 (3) - either put the slider a halfbeat later or turn it into singles as you're putting a snare on the slider end, which is an inconsistency
01:54:331 (5) - would turn it into singles to catch the vocal better since it's fairly strong and you're usually reflecting the strong ones at least
01:56:185 (2) - this note is not supported by the song. better just go with another 1/1 or 3/4 slider.. or a filler 1/2 slider like 01:54:668 (1) - if you want to use though, even if i don't advise to do so because it fakes continuity. just having a single on both whites with a gap between works too, ad brings some variety at the same time, so that might be nice
02:03:685 (5) - i don't see what would call for this note, neither is it in the song nor is it anywhere else in the part. even for variety's sake it just doesn't fit into any logic i can find. could make 02:03:432 (4) - into two singles instead for example as that's suggested by the two kicks, maybe a stack even, with which you could maintain the rest of the pattern even
02:59:387 (1,2,1,1,2) - i don't know. it's weird how this and only this part follows the vocals and skips what is usually mapped, especially with 03:02:084 (1,2,3,4,5) - going back to the other instruments. all within a single section is offthrowing, if they were in two seperate iterations of the same melody or similar parts in different parts of the map, differing like that would be viable, but i don't see it fitting as it is here. so i'd suggest either mapping the rest of this part more on vocals or going with instrument focus at last for the first half of this part. in the second half it works since the new instrument syncs up with the vocals and it transitions well due to that. the fisrt option would be more true to what you've been doing all map
02:59:050 (3,4) - could be a tripple as well
03:19:612 (1,2,3,4) - with 03:16:915 (1,2,3,4) - you kept a semi circular motion with the previosu two notes, would be nice to do the same here for consistency. a simple ctrl j and repositioning like http://puu.sh/vNheI/287040da3d.jpg would be an easy fix
03:22:308 (1,2,3,4) - ctrl g individually like http://puu.sh/vNkII/b43e84e3d9.jpg to get the emphasis on 03:22:983 (1) - . you did that in the other occasions too
03:24:668 (1,2) - if you map these as 1/4 you'll also need to add a note on 03:24:584 - as it's part of the only thing that can be mapped as 1/4 here
03:25:679 (1) - is see why you'd do this but imo it's too offthrowing to skip the 1/4 on the fist half of it since that's what also makes up 03:24:668 (1,2,1,1) - makes it feel arbitrary. another skipped sound would be a kick on middle of it that can be used to with a slider to get the same effect of the end of the long sliders like http://puu.sh/vNhW6/629129f103.jpg
04:28:039 (3,4) - could be a tripple as the tripple in the song comes form the same instrument you're mapping.
from 04:22:983 (1) - to 04:32:421 (1) - there's no apparent correlation or logic between the groups of objects. sometimes they are drop offs, completely isolated or follow circular motion. should probably look into having them in pairs, isolating all of them or connecting them. whichever suits your case.
04:49:275 (4) - if you want to put this on vocals you should also use them on at least the slider afterwards. seems utterly pointless or random otherwise
04:39:668 (2,3,1,2,3) - you made a point out of having long vocals initiate a string of circular or fluid/comfortable movement with 04:33:769 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - ,04:44:556 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - 04:49:949 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - and 04:36:971 (2,3,1,2,3,4,5) - , which makes sense. but here you change it right again on the second note 04:39:668 (2) - and on another occasion here 04:43:207 (1) - . one possible solution for fixing the first one would be http://puu.sh/vNjWf/972391cad9.jpg (04:39:162 (1) - and 04:41:522 (5) - stay in place, no other patterns need adjustments) and for the second one http://puu.sh/vNk3D/e1d92df40f.jpg (04:44:218 (5) - can be ontop of 04:44:893 (2) - )

on a general note, you switch between 1/2 filler sliders and 3/4 sliders seemingly arbitraryly, or at least i didn't find the logic behind it. getting some unity or system into sections would be nice as like this i'm simply not sure what which is going for.

tokiko

02:26:690 (4,1) - 02:29:387 (4,1) - these two are uncharacteristically low spaced
03:46:915 (3,4) - i'd put these farther away from 03:46:578 (1,2) - for contrast. it's odd how they have less impact than 03:46:409 (6,1) - otherwise since it's an increase of intensity in the song. heck they even feel less important to play than 03:46:241 (5,6) - which shouldn't be the case. so that the spacing between the paris doesn't get too big, putting 6 a notch closer should be a good approach
03:57:702 (3,4) - same issue, but not as extreme
04:05:454 (1,2) - if you're going to transit to instrumental mapping at least do it at or into a new verse rather than in the middle of one. also as a whole (from 04:01:409 (1) - to 04:22:983 (1) -) the part feels lackluster coming right after the most intense one of the song and comparing it to the same part 01:49:275 (1) - here or the soundingly less intense part here 04:33:769 (1) - which is mapped more vividly still. in fact it feels more like 02:21:634 (1) - the part starting here. but it's structure is clearly different as it has more intruments, making it more intense overall and different vocal melodies.. by which i suppose the latter doesn't matter as you sadly ignore those alltogether anyway. even if it might share the same snares and kicks, it shouldn't be reduced to those. it's really a bit of a let down to have this section play so timidly like a slow bridge while it is actually the chorus. i'd really recommend upping the intensity of it overall and not just mapping the basic, underlying percussion beat.
05:08:825 (1) - compared to 04:44:893 (2) - 04:58:039 (1) - 05:14:218 (1) - this one hardly has any emphasis on it while representing the song. the other three have both higher spacing and a drop-off angle, neither of which this one has, so you might want to put this one in a different place too

some nice ideas to be found in this map, good luck with it
even though there's not enough vocal mapping for my taste v__v

PandaHero

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PandaHero 2017-05-12T21:58:59+00:00

Deramok wrote:
pandahero
01:36:634 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - would look better if it followed the same curvature as 01:37:140 (1) - like http://puu.sh/vNf9l/1c4561027b.jpg
oke~
01:48:432 (7) - as opposed to 01:48:938 (9) - it covers two hits, so i'd suggest using something else instead. an easy way to do that would be one single on the head of 9 and then another one on top of 6 or putting a 1/2 slider on 6 as the start of 7 isn't on an important note and is thus more suited to be on a slider end as opposed to what is on it now
I mapped 7 slider on background sounds, so I need to keep it here
01:52:814 (4) - how about stacking this on 3 instead for more emphasis on the held vocal and the snare instead of the kick as you're emphasising the snares a lot in this part
sounds like good idea, done
01:51:466 (3) - either put the slider a halfbeat later or turn it into singles as you're putting a snare on the slider end, which is an inconsistency
Oh, you catch me
01:54:331 (5) - would turn it into singles to catch the vocal better since it's fairly strong and you're usually reflecting the strong ones at least
But I mapped drums by this red-anchor slider, and then tried to emphasize vocal through the large spacing...
01:56:185 (2) - this note is not supported by the song. better just go with another 1/1 or 3/4 slider.. or a filler 1/2 slider like 01:54:668 (1) - if you want to use though, even if i don't advise to do so because it fakes continuity. just having a single on both whites with a gap between works too, ad brings some variety at the same time, so that might be nice
Made a 3/4 slider here
02:03:685 (5) - i don't see what would call for this note, neither is it in the song nor is it anywhere else in the part. even for variety's sake it just doesn't fit into any logic i can find. could make 02:03:432 (4) - into two singles instead for example as that's suggested by the two kicks, maybe a stack even, with which you could maintain the rest of the pattern even
This note comes from vocal, so I want to keep it here
02:59:387 (1,2,1,1,2) - i don't know. it's weird how this and only this part follows the vocals and skips what is usually mapped, especially with 03:02:084 (1,2,3,4,5) - going back to the other instruments. all within a single section is offthrowing, if they were in two seperate iterations of the same melody or similar parts in different parts of the map, differing like that would be viable, but i don't see it fitting as it is here. so i'd suggest either mapping the rest of this part more on vocals or going with instrument focus at last for the first half of this part. in the second half it works since the new instrument syncs up with the vocals and it transitions well due to that. the fisrt option would be more true to what you've been doing all map
Oke, I mapped sounds, that usually map here
02:59:050 (3,4) - could be a tripple as well
I talked about this place before, triple here sounds like overmap for me
03:19:612 (1,2,3,4) - with 03:16:915 (1,2,3,4) - you kept a semi circular motion with the previosu two notes, would be nice to do the same here for consistency. a simple ctrl j and repositioning like http://puu.sh/vNheI/287040da3d.jpg would be an easy fix
I think that linear flow works better then circular here
03:22:308 (1,2,3,4) - ctrl g individually like http://puu.sh/vNkII/b43e84e3d9.jpg to get the emphasis on 03:22:983 (1) - . you did that in the other occasions too
sure
03:24:668 (1,2) - if you map these as 1/4 you'll also need to add a note on 03:24:584 - as it's part of the only thing that can be mapped as 1/4 here
In this part I mapped only wub sounds, so note in this place is not necessary
03:25:679 (1) - is see why you'd do this but imo it's too offthrowing to skip the 1/4 on the fist half of it since that's what also makes up 03:24:668 (1,2,1,1) - makes it feel arbitrary. another skipped sound would be a kick on middle of it that can be used to with a slider to get the same effect of the end of the long sliders like http://puu.sh/vNhW6/629129f103.jpg
^
04:28:039 (3,4) - could be a tripple as the tripple in the song comes form the same instrument you're mapping.
As I said before, it sounds like overmap for me
from 04:22:983 (1) - to 04:32:421 (1) - there's no apparent correlation or logic between the groups of objects. sometimes they are drop offs, completely isolated or follow circular motion. should probably look into having them in pairs, isolating all of them or connecting them. whichever suits your case.
I just tried to emphasize sounds that I found interesting, maybe I did it too abstractly ;w;
04:49:275 (4) - if you want to put this on vocals you should also use them on at least the slider afterwards. seems utterly pointless or random otherwise
I not planned to put it on vocals .-.
04:39:668 (2,3,1,2,3) - you made a point out of having long vocals initiate a string of circular or fluid/comfortable movement with 04:33:769 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - ,04:44:556 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - 04:49:949 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - and 04:36:971 (2,3,1,2,3,4,5) - , which makes sense. but here you change it right again on the second note 04:39:668 (2) - and on another occasion here 04:43:207 (1) - . one possible solution for fixing the first one would be http://puu.sh/vNjWf/972391cad9.jpg (04:39:162 (1) - and 04:41:522 (5) - stay in place, no other patterns need adjustments) and for the second one http://puu.sh/vNk3D/e1d92df40f.jpg (04:44:218 (5) - can be ontop of 04:44:893 (2) - )
In this part I empasize background sounds again, not a vocal, so I'm afraid you understand this part in a wrong way
on a general note, you switch between 1/2 filler sliders and 3/4 sliders seemingly arbitraryly, or at least i didn't find the logic behind it. getting some unity or system into sections would be nice as like this i'm simply not sure what which is going for.
My logic is pretty strange thing, yup

some nice ideas to be found in this map, good luck with it
even though there's not enough vocal mapping for my taste v__v

Thanks!

Deramok

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Deramok 2017-05-12T23:29:37+00:00

some clarifications on points i phrased badly, i didn't explain in enough detail or were misinterpreted in some other way shape or form

01:48:432 (7) - yes, there are two sounds on it, but the issue is the kind of sounds they are. you have a kick on the end and a weak synth on the head of the slider. in 01:48:938 (9) - you have it reversed, a snare on the head and a weak synth on the end, which is the prefered and more map characteristic way of doing it. putting 7's start on 6 would put the synth on a slider end and the snare on a head, just like 9 does it, and leave the kick open to be mapped via another note.
02:03:685 (5) - i simply can't hear a distinct sound here even if you tell me it's the vocals, i oly hear one on the end of the first slider and on the head of the next one, but nothing in between, it's a regular 1/2 beat from what my ears tell me
03:24:836 (2,1,1) - the point is, you don't map only on the wub sounds. there is no 1/4 in the wub, not even 1/2. if you only mapped that it would look like http://puu.sh/vO9bK/bcb821084c.jpg . this one 03:26:185 (1) - is (the 1/2 aspect of it, the 1/4 not really) at least excusable since there's a sole kick on the start. 03:25:511 (1) - the kick on this is part of a 3 note sounds pattern with another hit within 03:25:679 (1) - which would need to be mapped as well if you map the first one, which means that can't be used as a reason. lastly 03:24:836 (2) - is on no drum beat and no wub. the one thing supporting all of those is the synth 1/4 in the foreground, which would be comprehensibly implemented by adding notes to it's completion as described in the mod. so really it's map none or all of them. by how the map has been doing it untill here and how it does it afterwards, the first option seems more likely.
04:22:983 (1) - it's not about what you're following here, what you're following, rhythmically is completely fine and in tune with the rest of the map. what i was gettig at, was how the single parts correlate very variably and seemingly without a system between each other. with parts here i only mean sets of few notes with bigger gaps between them rather than a song section. so what i was suggesting was to give them some linkage, something that connects them. that can also be isolation, but even that would need to be systematical.
04:49:275 (4) - now this, the reason why i though you'd mapped this on the vocal is that you skipped a beat on the red tick in 04:48:938 (3) - , which is of the same nature as for instance 04:50:454 (2) - and not something you've ever done in this part
04:39:162 (1) - yes it's not following the vocals, i mistakenly used them to describe the issue because they sync up with what is responsible here, so that's my bad. said issue is the set of eight iterations of the instrumental rhythm which you are following. the points stay the same though, just without vocals being involved
and about these occasions 04:28:039 (3,4) - the tripples i was suggesting actually are made up from actual to me very noticable 1/4 sound from the same instruments as the surrounding notes. but if you want to leave it unmapped, that is fine. however you shouldn't refer to the potential tripples as being overmapping as the reason to leave them out is the opposite, undermapping. for the sake of lowering the density in less intense parts, which is a common and acceptable mapping technique.

hopefully this clears the more seemingly nonsensical ones up, apologies for the inconvenience, decline as you will
and just in case, no kd for this ofc

tokiko

215 posts

Joined June 2013

tokiko 2017-05-13T12:16:16+00:00

Deramok wrote:
tokiko
02:26:690 (4,1) - 02:29:387 (4,1) - these two are uncharacteristically low spaced that's okay!
03:46:915 (3,4) - i'd put these farther away from 03:46:578 (1,2) - for contrast. it's odd how they have less impact than 03:46:409 (6,1) - otherwise since it's an increase of intensity in the song. heck they even feel less important to play than 03:46:241 (5,6) - which shouldn't be the case. so that the spacing between the paris doesn't get too big, putting 6 a notch closer should be a good approach true, reworked a little
03:57:702 (3,4) - same issue, but not as extreme don't wanna ruin the cute look of this pattern
04:05:454 (1,2) - if you're going to transit to instrumental mapping at least do it at or into a new verse rather than in the middle of one. also as a whole (from 04:01:409 (1) - to 04:22:983 (1) -) the part feels lackluster coming right after the most intense one of the song and comparing it to the same part 01:49:275 (1) - here or the soundingly less intense part here 04:33:769 (1) - which is mapped more vividly still. in fact it feels more like 02:21:634 (1) - the part starting here. but it's structure is clearly different as it has more intruments, making it more intense overall and different vocal melodies.. by which i suppose the latter doesn't matter as you sadly ignore those alltogether anyway. even if it might share the same snares and kicks, it shouldn't be reduced to those. it's really a bit of a let down to have this section play so timidly like a slow bridge while it is actually the chorus. i'd really recommend upping the intensity of it overall and not just mapping the basic, underlying percussion beat. okay, remapped that part
05:08:825 (1) - compared to 04:44:893 (2) - 04:58:039 (1) - 05:14:218 (1) - this one hardly has any emphasis on it while representing the song. the other three have both higher spacing and a drop-off angle, neither of which this one has, so you might want to put this one in a different place too i think it's fine
some nice ideas to be found in this map, good luck with it
even though there's not enough vocal mapping for my taste v__v

PandaHero

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Topic Starter

PandaHero 2017-05-16T18:33:00+00:00

Deramok wrote:
some clarifications on points i phrased badly, i didn't explain in enough detail or were misinterpreted in some other way shape or form

01:48:432 (7) - yes, there are two sounds on it, but the issue is the kind of sounds they are. you have a kick on the end and a weak synth on the head of the slider. in 01:48:938 (9) - you have it reversed, a snare on the head and a weak synth on the end, which is the prefered and more map characteristic way of doing it. putting 7's start on 6 would put the synth on a slider end and the snare on a head, just like 9 does it, and leave the kick open to be mapped via another note.
I get your point and remake this place
02:03:685 (5) - i simply can't hear a distinct sound here even if you tell me it's the vocals, i oly hear one on the end of the first slider and on the head of the next one, but nothing in between, it's a regular 1/2 beat from what my ears tell me
Oke, I removed this note and remapped this place
03:24:836 (2,1,1) - the point is, you don't map only on the wub sounds. there is no 1/4 in the wub, not even 1/2. if you only mapped that it would look like http://puu.sh/vO9bK/bcb821084c.jpg . this one 03:26:185 (1) - is (the 1/2 aspect of it, the 1/4 not really) at least excusable since there's a sole kick on the start. 03:25:511 (1) - the kick on this is part of a 3 note sounds pattern with another hit within 03:25:679 (1) - which would need to be mapped as well if you map the first one, which means that can't be used as a reason. lastly 03:24:836 (2) - is on no drum beat and no wub. the one thing supporting all of those is the synth 1/4 in the foreground, which would be comprehensibly implemented by adding notes to it's completion as described in the mod. so really it's map none or all of them. by how the map has been doing it untill here and how it does it afterwards, the first option seems more likely.
Made a stream instead of two kick sliders
04:22:983 (1) - it's not about what you're following here, what you're following, rhythmically is completely fine and in tune with the rest of the map. what i was gettig at, was how the single parts correlate very variably and seemingly without a system between each other. with parts here i only mean sets of few notes with bigger gaps between them rather than a song section. so what i was suggesting was to give them some linkage, something that connects them. that can also be isolation, but even that would need to be systematical.
I will try it later, okay?
04:49:275 (4) - now this, the reason why i though you'd mapped this on the vocal is that you skipped a beat on the red tick in 04:48:938 (3) - , which is of the same nature as for instance 04:50:454 (2) - and not something you've ever done in this part
Put two notes instead of 4 slider
04:39:162 (1) - yes it's not following the vocals, i mistakenly used them to describe the issue because they sync up with what is responsible here, so that's my bad. said issue is the set of eight iterations of the instrumental rhythm which you are following. the points stay the same though, just without vocals being involved
Ah, you talked about making comfortable movements here, but I think it already smooth and also fun to play, if I do it more circular it will be boring
and about these occasions 04:28:039 (3,4) - the tripples i was suggesting actually are made up from actual to me very noticable 1/4 sound from the same instruments as the surrounding notes. but if you want to leave it unmapped, that is fine. however you shouldn't refer to the potential tripples as being overmapping as the reason to leave them out is the opposite, undermapping. for the sake of lowering the density in less intense parts, which is a common and acceptable mapping technique.
Oh, okay, then I'll leave it unmapped because I want to make this part less intense
hopefully this clears the more seemingly nonsensical ones up, apologies for the inconvenience, decline as you will
and just in case, no kd for this ofc

Thank you for all you done, you really helped me

Narcissu

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Narcissu 2017-05-24T11:57:04+00:00

i mapped the song but i fail .. because i can‘t find a BG better than ranked ver

[General]

chorus should be hard than other part …… maybe except interlude, but it's relly too easy for now, try reference https://osu.ppy.sh/s/279025 https://osu.ppy.sh/s/380764
avoid use similar colours because same colours is unrankable, adjacent colors need …… discrimination ?

[PandaHero]

03:16:915 (1,2,3,4,1) - 03:22:308 (1,2,3,4,1) - try this ↓↓↓ avoid repetition/overlap/horizontal and vertical

SPOILER
00:33:769 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - try this ↓↓↓ avoid monotonous/stagnation

SPOILER
01:52:645 (3,4) - 01:53:320 (1,2) - 01:57:027 (5,1) - 03:26:185 (1,1) - you stack too many. try more different permutations, same feeling with different array. such as https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8166164 https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8166100

[*]after you have an idea, you will repeat the idea once and once ... no matter how great your idea is, repetition is boring

[tokiko]

00:57:196 (3,4) - exchange better, imo https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8166319
01:05:454 (7,8,1) - i think it's too closed
02:13:207 (4,5) - 02:15:904 (4,5) - 02:18:601 (4,5) - ctrl g all even numbers bar more lively. all is the same, it's too monotonous
04:01:409 (1,2,3) - I don't think it's appropriate .... and SV too slow here, imo --
05:00:061 (1,2) - 05:10:848 (1,2) - 1/4 better, because 05:00:061 (1,2,3) - is same

PandaHero

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Topic Starter

PandaHero 2017-05-26T15:19:52+00:00

Narcissu wrote:
i mapped the song but i fail .. because i can‘t find a BG better than ranked ver

[General]
chorus should be hard than other part …… maybe except interlude, but it's relly too easy for now, try reference https://osu.ppy.sh/s/279025 https://osu.ppy.sh/s/380764
Hm, for me parts before chorus is stronger than chorus itself, so I decided to map it more intense and put kiai on these parts. Also we just wanted to make calm map for this song.
avoid use similar colours because same colours is unrankable, adjacent colors need …… discrimination ?
I need all these colors for showing to players slow parts and sliders

[PandaHero]
03:16:915 (1,2,3,4,1) - 03:22:308 (1,2,3,4,1) - try this ↓↓↓ avoid repetition/overlap/horizontal and vertical

SPOILER

But I like how my repetitive and overlap sliders emphasize wubs here ;w;
00:33:769 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - try this ↓↓↓ avoid monotonous/stagnation
SPOILER
Since vocal here is repeating, I decided to repeat paterns and gradually increase spacing, because vocal is become louder and stronger.
01:52:645 (3,4) - 01:53:320 (1,2) - 01:57:027 (5,1) - 03:26:185 (1,1) - you stack too many. try more different permutations, same feeling with different array. such as https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8166164 https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8166100
You right, I stacking a lot, so it's become a system and I can't see anything wrong with it
[*]after you have an idea, you will repeat the idea once and once ... no matter how great your idea is, repetition is boring
Boring, but effective

Thank you for checking!

tokiko

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tokiko 2017-05-27T10:26:56+00:00

Narcissu wrote:
[tokiko]
00:57:196 (3,4) - exchange better, imo https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8166319 ok
01:05:454 (7,8,1) - i think it's too closed actually that's okay
02:13:207 (4,5) - 02:15:904 (4,5) - 02:18:601 (4,5) - ctrl g all even numbers bar more lively. all is the same, it's too monotonous yeah,
sure
04:01:409 (1,2,3) - I don't think it's appropriate .... and SV too slow here, imo -- just wanted to follow the vocals one time
05:00:061 (1,2) - 05:10:848 (1,2) - 1/4 better, because 05:00:061 (1,2,3) - is same i don't think i understood you correctly

jonathanlfj

Elite Mapper

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jonathanlfj 2017-06-19T23:44:29+00:00

sorry for the delay

[General]
There is not much green in the background, so I'd say swap the green combo colours for something else (a hue of purple would be nice)

[<3]
00:43:881 (3,4) - there are really strong 1/4s here that shouldn't be ignored imo, see if you can swap this part out for some 1/4 slider patterns?
01:04:780 (1,2,3,4,5) - curving this a bit more makes it smoother to play
01:27:365 (1) - make the end soft hitsound so it doesnt stand out
01:47:926 (5) - NC
03:09:921 - there is a 1/4 beat here that would be nice to cover
03:37:140 (1) - should be a finish on the start
03:48:263 (2) - if you curve this one upwards it creates a nice wrap around effect (also makes it look like an eye xD)
03:52:645 (1,2) - seems you ran out of playfield area to place the circle at a natural angle, in this case i would just stack it
04:13:881 - i dont think this one was meant to be 5% volume? Also the previous slider ends are better to be soft sample to get the right silencing effect
04:28:039 (3,4) - this part would be cool if it were two fast 1/4 sliders (similar effect as 04:25:342 (1))
04:38:320 (4,5) - the thing you did with smaller spacing is cool, but some patterns later on starts to get too close (e.g. 04:47:758 (2,3)), its a little deceiving so maybe you can up the spacing slightly?
05:11:353 (3,1) - this is surprisingly hard to play without a 100 on the slow slider, you can rotate 05:11:522 (1) counterclockwise so the start is closer to 05:11:353 (3)

Really nice concepts in this one, only thing that concerns me a little is the wub section at 03:15:567; the short straight 1/4 slider patterns feels too underwhelming and repetitive for a section with this much variance. I recommend you try some red node sliders as well as direction changes that are non-linear (for example, tokiko's section with similar rhythm is excellent due to the use of subtle direction changes)

PandaHero

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PandaHero 2017-06-23T20:42:24+00:00

jonathanlfj wrote:
sorry for the delay

[General]
There is not much green in the background, so I'd say swap the green combo colours for something else (a hue of purple would be nice)
Oh, sounds like a good idea

[<3]
00:43:881 (3,4) - there are really strong 1/4s here that shouldn't be ignored imo, see if you can swap this part out for some 1/4 slider patterns?
01:27:365 (1) - make the end soft hitsound so it doesnt stand out
01:47:926 (5) - NC
03:09:921 - there is a 1/4 beat here that would be nice to cover
03:37:140 (1) - should be a finish on the start
04:13:881 - i dont think this one was meant to be 5% volume? Also the previous slider ends are better to be soft sample to get the right silencing effect
04:28:039 (3,4) - this part would be cool if it were two fast 1/4 sliders (similar effect as 04:25:342 (1))
04:38:320 (4,5) - the thing you did with smaller spacing is cool, but some patterns later on starts to get too close (e.g. 04:47:758 (2,3)), its a little deceiving so maybe you can up the spacing slightly?

Really nice concepts in this one, only thing that concerns me a little is the wub section at 03:15:567; the short straight 1/4 slider patterns feels too underwhelming and repetitive for a section with this much variance. I recommend you try some red node sliders as well as direction changes that are non-linear (for example, tokiko's section with similar rhythm is excellent due to the use of subtle direction changes)

Fixed all except 1/4 on 00:43:881, because I prefer to follow only vocal in this part. Reworked wub part a bit.
Thank you!

tokiko

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tokiko 2017-06-24T06:35:47+00:00

jonathanlfj wrote:
hello my russian friend

[<3]
01:04:780 (1,2,3,4,5) - curving this a bit more makes it smoother to play sure
03:48:263 (2) - if you curve this one upwards it creates a nice wrap around effect (also makes it look like an eye xD) okk
03:52:645 (1,2) - seems you ran out of playfield area to place the circle at a natural angle, in this case i would just stack it i can't remember why i did that overlap but yeah, stacked
05:11:353 (3,1) - this is surprisingly hard to play without a 100 on the slow slider, you can rotate 05:11:522 (1) counterclockwise so the start is closer to 05:11:353 (3) Demetori - Kuuchuu ni Shizumu Kishinjou ~ Counter-Clock World

thank you!

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tokiko

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sooqa

PandaHero

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PandaHero 2017-06-24T07:50:42+00:00

Updated owo

Lama Poluna

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Lama Poluna 2017-06-26T15:08:30+00:00

ПрактическиХайп

jonathanlfj

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jonathanlfj 2017-06-27T00:59:59+00:00

ok

PandaHero

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PandaHero 2017-06-27T08:26:40+00:00

Woah, my first bubble, thank you

Nao Tomori

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Nao Tomori 2017-06-27T14:48:27+00:00

hi! i have some questions about this map!

the main one is just explained by this: 03:15:567 - why is this section mapped completely differently from 04:55:342 - ? the sv is totally different, like it's 2 different maps stuck into one.

yes, it's a collab, but that doesn't mean you should completely abandon any concept of consistency through the map.

this repeats on every part; it's like you both mapped the song, but with completely different techniques, rhythms and patterning.

other random stuff

01:16:578 (4,5) - why is this a double >.> there's nothing suggesting a double here as far as i can tell

01:22:814 (4,6) - you used overlap for all other sliders in the section, why perfect stack here?

01:49:780 (2,3) - this offbeat thing doesn't really fit with your rhythm in the section cuz you're generally focusing on vocals (like 01:53:320 (1,2,3,4,5) - for example) and this one skips over one

03:15:567 - this entire section - completely ignoring the melody in the part where the melody is perhaps the strongest is not really a good choice imo. you *can* follow the random background wubs entirely and completely ignore what makes the song a song and not just a bunch of sounds, but a better way to go about things would be to incorporate the background track into the melody
the 1/1 gaps feel especially lame and underwhelming; you finish following these super fast long sliders and then sort of waddle on down slowly to the next one, there isn't really any feeling of pressure or constant motion so the effect of the high sv is completely lost i think.

03:46:578 (1,2,3,4) - what's up with the massive spacing contrast? the melody is going up and down, but this is way more different in spacing than what the song provides imo

03:47:926 (1,2,3) - this pattern is cool and all but you never ever do something like this anywhere else in the map so it's super unexpected and hard to read

04:01:409 - this section - the rhythm choice starts of very very vocal focused, with stuff like 04:01:409 (1,2,3) - obviously setting the tone, same for 04:03:769 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - and so on which follow the vocals. but then 04:05:792 (6,7,8,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5) - it just randomly goes off into 1/2 spam everywhere, completely ignoring the vocals. like 04:06:297 (1,2) - is on drums, 04:06:634 (3) - is a vocal,04:07:140 (2) - the slider end of this is a vocal that should have been held out, 04:08:488 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - there's a long held out vocal here but it's all 1/2 circles etc etc. so there isnt any feeling of following one specific track in the song any more.

04:28:039 (1,2,1) - minor thing but why are these kicksliders, this section is quite calm so using kicksliders suddenly seemed out of place

anyway yeah, i think the ridiculous lack of cohesion is a really big detriment to this map; i told himei the same thing when he asked me to check this, and i told you as well when you asked me; seems like nothing i said was taken into account =/

not gonna pop cuz i'm gonna be dead for a month, but please, to any next bn, take this into consideration: the map is half of the song mapped by one person in one style and the other half mapped by another person in a completely different style with no internal consistency between the 2 parts.

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Mirash 2017-06-27T15:10:54+00:00

don't force your 2017 mapping view please

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