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Kano - Sakura no Zenya

posted 2017-04-02T09:41:58+00:00

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Illyasviel

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Joined July 2013

Topic Starter

Illyasviel 2017-04-18T00:03:19+00:00

Mir wrote:
[ Extra]
00:03:749 - 00:06:109 - From here whyyy are all the strong beats on the slider eeeeend. ;-; Again at 00:09:142 (1) - and 00:11:165 (1,2) and it just persists. It's probably because of sliders like 00:13:524 (6) - that end on the downbeat that you don't compensate for with circles or something on 00:14:536 - and it feels VERY weird to switch from strong beats on ends to strong beats on heads like 00:06:109 (1,2,3,4) - to strong beats on tails. | Changed

00:16:053 (4) - Uhh, seems unnecessary tbh, no sound is noticeable enough to map this to in a section that should be relatively calm. | Changed pattern, added a circle, follows faint vocals.

00:36:951 (6) - No emphasis on this snare that's actually different than the others in the song? | Changed direction to imply a change in sound

00:39:648 (6,7,1) - No need for a triple here imo there's a clear drum on the red. | I'm keeping that triple because it makes the transition from the heavy 1/2 rhythm to a 1/4 rhythm more smooth

00:42:766 - Suddenly skipping this triple sound here after mapping it consistently before. | Changed

00:53:300 (1,2) - Would actually work better as two 1/2 sliders imo since there are two very distinct held vocals here and would make the jump to 00:53:974 - cleaner and feel more onbeat with the music. | Changed

00:54:311 (5,1,2,3) - Holy that 3, can you fix this visual spacing? xD | Changed

00:55:407 - Also skipping a triple. :thinokgin: | Changed

00:56:333 (2) - Two circles for distinct vocals? | Changed

00:58:187 - Strong guitar on slider end I cry. ;-; | Ctrl+ G

00:58:946 (2) - Hmm... sounds overmapped tbh. I don't hear anything on this blue. | Changed

01:01:390 (1,2) - Could definitely be circles - the vocals are very distinct here and mapping these over with sliders while then mapping 01:02:064 (3) - as a slider (whereon there's only one distinct sound on the head) is kind of weird. |I'm keeping those two, as I made this whole part 01:01:390 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4) - a crescendo pattern, following the bass and vocal intensity. However, I did change the pattern, as 01:02:064 (3) - is now a circle

01:02:738 (1,2) - Works as a slider since I don't think the bass in the back is neither that important here in particular nor warranting such jumps. | Explained above

01:05:098 (5,1,2) - Soooo... prioritizing drums or vocals? Not sure here since 01:05:098 (5,1) - is vocals and 01:05:772 (2) - is drums and sub-vocal but rhythm doesn't change at all so it's weird to play this transition. | Changed to prioritize drums

01:06:783 (1) - Same thing as Vicky's diff, this stronger vocal on the end than the sound on the head feels very weird to play especially since 01:07:457 (4,5,1) - all after follows vocals. // 01:17:569 (1) - // Also every one of these triples 01:07:289 (2,3) - is unnecessary and kinda overmapped since there's no 1/4 and there's no vocal syncopation.

01:10:154 (4,5) - Vocal rhythm is changing but you're still using 1/2 sliders on whites. | Changed

01:10:828 (1) - Skips a very noticeable drum in the middle of this that I don't think you skip anywhere else. And there's no sound that starts on 1 and is held for that long anyways since the vocal starts from 01:10:491 - | Changed

01:17:486 (7,1) - Uhhh, stack is kinda weird no? I don't think it's really necessary at all since the stream is quite constant so this change isn't really called for imo. | Changed

01:19:423 (2) - Not needed to map because no sound here, but if you made 01:18:918 (1) - two 1/2 sliders you can fill the gap and better follow the vocals.

01:19:929 (4) - Really clear triple that's actually in the song (unlike the other overmapped ones) yet not mapped lol. | Changed to a different type of pattern and rhythm

01:22:204 - Also a triple possible, but not as important since it's very damp. | Added

01:23:468 - Strong snare + guitar on end but the head is on a weaker sound. Should be clickable imo. | Changed

01:23:637 (3,4,5) - Emphasis is backwards here, 4 - 5 should be spaced more than 3 - 4 since 5 has the snare on it. | Changed the whole pattern and spacing

01:26:502 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - Ow this flows very badly, after such smooth flowing streams this threw me off completely. The sound doesn't even change much compared from 01:25:659 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - so why is the flow a million times harsher lol. | Changed, full stream now

01:31:895 (5,1) - Considering your earlier concepts for these sets of notes these shouldn't be stacked. Referring to: 01:29:873 (4,5) - 01:30:884 (4,1) - | Changed pattern

01:32:401 (2) - NC, and also this should have a different sort of emphasis to differentiate the higher pitch here from 01:30:041 (5,1). Maybe space it? // 01:43:187 (1) - | Same as above

01:33:244 (7,8,9,10,1) - Overmapped streaaaam. ;-; It's just 1/2 drums here. | Changed

01:34:086 (2,3) - Could work as a slider because 3 is less noticeable than 2. // 01:44:872 (2,3) - | Could work, but I'd rather use one long slider and circles for that part.

01:37:457 (3,1) - Lacks as much emphasis as 01:37:120 (1,2) - despite being much stronger. | Shifted 01:38:468 (1) - a bit more to left to increase spacing

01:47:400 (2) - There's barely anything here but it's spaced so highly - consider nerfing this? | Changed the pattern, so now both parts in the same kiai have around the same spacing, 1,2 now belong to a set of cross jumps 01:47:232 (1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4) -

01:51:362 (4) - No triple here to be honest. | Changed to a final 1/2 jump

Normal]
00:01:390 (2,4) - Staaack? | Remapped most part of the intro

00:08:131 (4) - Same thing as in your Extra..| ^

01:05:435 (3) - This is a pretty strong beat to end on a slider end. Yeah, but I prioritized vocals that start here 01:07:120 (1) - for simplicity sake.

01:37:794 (3) - Okay whoa the song literally resets at 01:37:626 - please can you make the slider start here. You already used 1/2 before so you can use it again here + it's a normal this pains me ;-;| Changed to better fit the vocals
Rest is fine too.

LGV894

355 posts

Joined May 2013

LGV894 2017-04-25T04:59:18+00:00

gottagof4ast wrote:
LGV's Hard
00:55:659 (7,1,2) - The spacing between 71 should be the largest as you want the emphasis on 00:55:996 (1) -. You can move the 00:55:996 (1) - more towards 00:56:333 (2) - to fix this No that would ruin the emphasis on snare a lot. Anyways,
I fixed it.

01:26:671 (1,2,3,4,1) - feels too intense for a hard diff that is only the second diff form the bottom, just keep the reverses I don't think so.
Those are only 5 notes. I've been playing them since like, I was still pp farming and I was only #200k. No problems. I'll just check back on it if somebody else points it out again.

01:29:704 (1,2) - The vocal keeps going on the first slider here so I would make the first 1 into a reverse and the second one a normal 1/2 slider I'm sorry, what?

01:31:053 (1) - This sldier end needs to be clickable You're implying that 01:30:378 - this, 01:32:738 - this, 01:36:109 - this, 01:40:154 - this and etc. should be clickable. No. It would increase difficulty significantly. Also, I mapped that specific sound that way consistently, so it shouldn't be much of a problem.

01:32:401 (1) - Space a bit more so you have greater emphasis as this sound is really loud ok dad

01:35:772 (3) - Sliderend needs to be clickable since you mainly follow the vocals So I should turn it into 2 1/2 sliders? That would increase the note density too much and might cause players to fail considering that the pattern following it is 1/2 slider spam.

01:38:468 (3,4,5,6,7) - Also too intense No.

01:51:783 (1,2) - Would put these closer together to make sure its obvious its a 1/2 gap No because it would be inconsistent with 01:51:277 (1,2) - and might be mistaken as 1/4.

k thx

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Seolv

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Seolv 2017-04-25T20:00:21+00:00

No More Waiting For Lulkas

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Anxient

1,568 posts

Joined June 2014

Anxient 2017-04-26T06:26:46+00:00

i actually want to die right now

[-PinK-]

[-PinK-] 2017-04-27T03:21:42+00:00

H e l l o D e r e

Map looks great

Vicky's Extra

00:00:439 (1,2,3,4) - there's not a sound being held till an red tick , it's not a big deal but i think it's a great idea changing the sliders for circles ( manly because i felt a pretty strange playabillty at dis part owo' )
00:36:169 (3,4,5,6) - the flow here is pretty strange , i think if you just ctrl+g this pattern it would feel better
00:43:922 (1,2,1,2) - i don't think that 4 1/4 sliders are actually needed to emphasize the sounds here , and if you're going to stay with them , then just make the spacing smaller
00:57:742 (3,4,1,2) - there is no sound at the slider 3 , and again , i don't think you really need the 1/4 sliders , but you can keep them , idke ;3;
01:00:607 (2,3,4) - wide angles aren't as nice to play as sharp angles , i think changing this would be great
01:10:551 (1) - this part of the song don't actually supports this slider ( there's sounds on a red tick and on a big white tick)
01:11:899 (1) - there is a song on the red tick
01:13:247 (1) - ^
01:16:955 (4,5) - i think that i 1/4 repeat slider would fit better this part
01:34:652 (1) - this sound is really loud , sv change would emphasize it better
01:33:304 (1) - ^

sorry for such a small mod , the map is just too great ;3;

Miriko

188 posts

Joined July 2014

Miriko 2017-04-27T05:01:13+00:00

[-PinK-] wrote:
H e l l o D e r e

Map looks great

Vicky's Extra
00:00:439 (1,2,3,4) - there's not a sound being held till an red tick , it's not a big deal but i think it's a great idea changing the sliders for circles ( manly because i felt a pretty strange playabillty at dis part owo' ) The purpose for the sliders are mostly just aesthetics, I'm still on the fence for changing them into circles so I'll keep them for now. But I'll keep your suggestion on my table!
00:36:169 (3,4,5,6) - the flow here is pretty strange , i think if you just ctrl+g this pattern it would feel better The flow shouldn't feel weird as the slider indirectly points to (3) and it then jumps counter-clockwise with (6)'s spacing for emphasis of the strong hit.
00:43:922 (1,2,1,2) - i don't think that 4 1/4 sliders are actually needed to emphasize the sounds here , and if you're going to stay with them , then just make the spacing smaller Spacing reduced slightly~
00:57:742 (3,4,1,2) - there is no sound at the slider 3 , and again , i don't think you really need the 1/4 sliders , but you can keep them , idke ;3; The kicksliders are for aesthetics and they play the same as a single note.
01:00:607 (2,3,4) - wide angles aren't as nice to play as sharp angles , i think changing this would be great I'm not sure what to change this into, the wider angle was mapped out because I wanted to follow the clockwise jumping flow.
01:10:551 (1) - this part of the song don't actually supports this slider ( there's sounds on a red tick and on a big white tick) I'm not sure what you meant, I'm mapping out what I hear is the strongest points in the music both the instruments and vocals.
01:11:899 (1) - there is a song on the red tick It does not mean it's required to be mapped. The instruments on the red tick is too weak for it to be necessarily mapped out.
01:13:247 (1) - ^ Same as above.
01:16:955 (4,5) - i think that i 1/4 repeat slider would fit better this part The kicksliders are fine as they are. The acceleration for the drum roll fits the intensity of it just fine in my view.
01:34:652 (1) - this sound is really loud , sv change would emphasize it better Changed~
01:33:304 (1) - ^ Changed~

sorry for such a small mod , the map is just too great ;3;

Thank you for the mod~

I still ponder why I mapped this Extra...

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Seolv

847 posts

Joined March 2016

Seolv 2017-04-28T09:45:26+00:00

Nobody asked for this mod.

All Diffs (Except Lukas'):
~~Ctrl+A then Ctrl +X, you're welcome, I've just fixed your mapet~~

General

Tags: [_L_u_k_a_s_], Akitoshi, Anxient, Kencho, LGV894, Kisses, Victorica

Easy

00:05:832 (4) - Why didn't you NC this but you NC'd 00:03:135 (1) -
00:39:540 (1,2) - The music gets more intense than in 00:34:146 (1,2,3) - but you put easier rhythm
01:08:528 (4) - I think this will confuse new players, Ctrl+G
01:33:304 (1) - You can't just put a slider on a red tick in Easy diff, new players won't expect it, i think you better
01:37:180 (2) - There's no sound in beginning of this slider, if you wanna keep the red tick sliders then you will have to put this on a red tick too
01:48:135 (2) - Meanwhile in this part which is same as the part above you put it on red tick instead

Normal

00:02:124 (4) - Slider ending on a strong sound that should be emphasized
00:11:225 (1) - This slider is ignoring the sound in the middle, shorten it by half
00:16:618 (1) - Slider overlapping with 00:15:270 (3) - which is clearly visible.
00:19:652 (1) - Same
00:27:405 (1) - ^
00:39:540 (1,2) - Same as in easy with the intense parts
01:05:158 (3) - Slider ending on a strong sound
01:26:731 (3,4,5) - Not very beautiful overlaps imo
01:33:304 (1,2) - This same pattern/rhythm is used in Easy and I would recommend you to change it to something different
01:49:652 (1,2,3,4,5) - This is the end of the song, and it's getting more intense so I recommend you use more intense rhythm to emphasize all the sounds in the background music.

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Illyasviel

218 posts

Joined July 2013

Topic Starter

Illyasviel 2017-05-01T06:27:15+00:00

[ L u k a s ] wrote:
Nobody asked for this mod.

All Diffs (Except Lukas'):
~~Ctrl+A then Ctrl +X, you're welcome, I've just fixed your mapet~~

General

Tags: [_L_u_k_a_s_], Akitoshi, Anxient, Kencho, LGV894, Kisses, Victorica

Easy

00:05:832 (4) - Why didn't you NC this but you NC'd 00:03:135 (1) - | Woops? Fixed.
00:39:540 (1,2) - The music gets more intense than in 00:34:146 (1,2,3) - but you put easier rhythm | I'm following the guitar here. So I don't get your point. Sure the music gets more complex, but it's an Easy, which is why I chose an Easy instrument to follow.
01:08:528 (4) - I think this will confuse new players, Ctrl+G | Wat, that's perfectly readable, I repeat it here, just at inverse 01:12:236 (2,3,4) - . Besides, Ctrl+G would make a jump to 01:09:203 (1) -
01:33:304 (1) - You can't just put a slider on a red tick in Easy diff, new players won't expect it, i think you better | While I would agree in most cases, here starting the slider on the earlier white tick makes no sense as I'm following the vocals, and they start on the redtick.
01:37:180 (2) - There's no sound in beginning of this slider, if you wanna keep the red tick sliders then you will have to put this on a red tick too | Huh, for me there is a clear drum hit + she is singing a vocal. Her vocals start at the redtick 01:37:012 - here, but they are not strong enough to justify a deviation on the simple 1/1 pattern that is supposed to be used for an Easy. Instead I made the slider end on the second vocal from here 01:37:180 (2) - with a strong drum feedback, that ends on a vocal 01:37:180 (2) - .
01:48:135 (2) - Meanwhile in this part which is same as the part above you put it on red tick instead | Changed to a 1/1 slider for consistency!

Normal

00:02:124 (4) - Slider ending on a strong sound that should be emphasized | Alright, but it's an ending sound. There is literally nothing else to map until here 00:03:135 - . There is no need to emphasize something that ends.
00:11:225 (1) - This slider is ignoring the sound in the middle, shorten it by half | It makes sense, but it's on purpose. The whole vocals vs bell sounds are mapped in a different way. I decided to not remark the vocals unless it's very clear that there is a change, like here 00:22:349 (2,3) - . While I could map the vocals in a 1/2 fashion, I decided to use a simple rhythm instead that still works.
00:16:618 (1) - Slider overlapping with 00:15:270 (3) - which is clearly visible. | Huh, it is, but it's due spacing. I did try to make it match something of the slider tho.
00:19:652 (1) - Same | These overlaps are on purpose 00:17:630 (2,3,1,2) - So I don't understand what you mean xd
00:27:405 (1) - ^ | :thonkung:
00:39:540 (1,2) - Same as in easy with the intense parts | Same answer, it's following the guitar.
01:05:158 (3) - Slider ending on a strong sound | Yeah, and so are 01:10:551 (4) - and 01:15:944 (2) - . It's a pattern where I prioritized vocals that start here 01:06:843 (1) - , here 01:12:236 (1) - and here 01:17:630 (1) - respectively. It's also the reason I NC in the vocals, and not the white tick.
01:26:731 (3,4,5) - Not very beautiful overlaps imo | Last blue tick of slider 3 matches the start of slider 4, and circle 5 starts at the end of slider 4 because if used the same pattern for position it would look like this, and that's not pretty if you consider this slider 01:28:079 (1) - . So instead, I made them thinking about the object next to each other and not only what is besides them.
01:33:304 (1,2) - This same pattern/rhythm is used in Easy and I would recommend you to change it to something different | I'm pretty sure I'm allowed to the same pattern here as an Easy, it follows the vocals, and that's what I have doing on the kiai.
01:49:652 (1,2,3,4,5) - This is the end of the song, and it's getting more intense so I recommend you use more intense rhythm to emphasize all the sounds in the background music. | I could, but I like mah half circle 01:49:652 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - xd

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Nozhomi

Global Moderator

4,568 posts

Joined May 2013

Nozhomi 2017-05-04T23:45:59+00:00

Kencho send me here.

The gap between Normal and Hard is too huge. When Normal is composed mostly from 1/1, the Hard have some big jumps and a lot of 1/4 rhythm. Buff the Normal or add a diff between them is needed imo.
You have tag issues. Check AIMod.
From start until 00:33:304 - , the section have no hitsounds and is not a good thing. I suggest you to do like you did for 00:44:933 - but change Drum finish for simple soft whistle. This for all diffs.

[Easy]

00:30:101 (4) - Forget a NC.
00:32:124 (7,1) - It should have the same spacing here (1.20x) because 00:33:472 (1) - just start to appears when you play 00:32:124 (7) - .
01:19:315 (4,1) - You could blanket that better, do a quick check to other in case you forget one.
01:22:349 (4,1,2,3) - Don't stack them. You already did a stack for a 2/1 rhythm at 00:13:247 (4,1) - and also it makes 01:25:045 (4,1) - inconsistent so just unstack them.
01:28:079 (2) - NC should be here and not at 01:26:731 (1) - .
01:29:427 (4,5,1) - Visual spacing makes 01:29:427 (4,5) - smaller. Also due to slider movement, players will try to play 01:30:776 (1) - first after because it's the more logic one to catch. Arrange this pattern to make 01:30:438 (5) - more easy to catch at first sight.
01:34:652 (1) - You NC this but not 01:45:438 (3) - so decide which one you keep.
01:40:214 (3,4,1) - Same because copy pasta pattern zzz

[Normal]

OD 5 pls, it would make gap with Hard less rough.
You have some spacing issues (like 00:02:124 (4,1) - ) so check them (use AIMod but don't forget to remove all combo before doing that).
00:07:517 (4,2) - Avoid the little triggering overlap ?
00:15:270 (3,1) - Big overlap lol, looks really bad when easier diffs have to be clean.
00:18:304 (3,1) - That kind of pattern is a big no. Remember than it have to be easy to read, that kind of pattern will just put in trouble a newbie so much.
00:20:326 (2,3,4) - I don't think that's the best rhythm option here. Something like this would fit more because right now not having 00:21:169 - on anything followed by a reverse when you put so much importance into vocal is weird. Also play 00:20:663 - passively is bad due to the strong beat https://puu.sh/vFNYa/0374554c71.png
00:23:023 (3,1) - Again overlaps, I'll stop pointing them, and just fix all other by yourself.
01:03:472 - That's a really strong beat to ignore. Would be nice to change 01:03:135 (4) - for two circles.
01:06:506 - Same here, just remove the reverse of 01:05:158 (3) - and put a circle on 01:06:506 - instead.
01:09:203 (1,2,3) - So why when you follow strongly vocals all along the map, you just ignore it for stuff like 01:09:708 - when you could have done a reverse like this https://puu.sh/vFOlY/f9c10c6cb8.png ? Do that for other places like this one too.
01:26:731 (3,4) - Do like you did for 01:27:236 (4,5) - -> https://puu.sh/vFOsz/9cc24cdcd7.png .
01:29:090 (3,4) - CTRL+G, the beat on 01:29:764 - is way more stronger to be clicked and have it on a reverse end. Ofc same for 01:39:876 (3,4) - .
01:38:023 (5,1) - Could you don't overlap them for the clarity of the pattern ?

[LGV's Hard]

01:47:630 (3,4,1) - This pattern is not that good to play, because you naturally want to play 01:48:135 (1) - right after 01:47:630 (3) - . If you had done something like 01:32:798 (3,4,1) - it would be nice but right now it just do an akward movement to the player.
Too much overlaps (don't be like Linada pls lol).

[Anxient's Insane]

Could you half reduce NCs on intro ? That's really too much lol.
00:40:214 (1) - No reason to have it ending on a blue tic when you skip melody on 00:40:382 - also highly inconsistent with rest of the section.
00:52:854 - Since you focus a lot on vocal, you could make this one clickable.
01:30:438 (1,1) - I don't think these NCs are necessary.

[Lukas's Insane]

00:10:550 (3,4,5) - Since you did all your 1/2 circles like this before with a reduced spacing between two last circles, could you do the same here ?
00:24:540 (7,1) - Nice blanket dood
01:17:967 (2,1) - ^ well check other zzz
01:26:731 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - This absolutly don't work with the music rhythm. You applied the same intensity when 01:26:731 - / 01:27:236 - / 01:27:742 - are stronger than 01:26:899 - / 01:27:068 - / 01:27:405 - / 01:27:573 - who could keep these kick sliders, but NOT the three other at all.
01:30:607 (6,1,2) - Why this is the only one of the entire kiai who is so truncated and super hard to read ?
01:32:124 (1) - Pls don't skip vocal on 01:32:292 - . Same for 01:42:910 (1) - who si even worse.
01:49:567 (6,1) - Just do the slider in the following movement of your stream pls.

[Akitoshi's Insane]

00:41:731 (4,5) - Should have same spacing than 00:41:394 (2,3) - since it's a low beat.
00:51:506 (4,1) - This have don't a much stronger intensity than 00:50:832 (2,3) - , spacing is a bit too huge. Same for 00:52:854 (3,1) - and 00:54:203 (3,1) - .

[Kisses' Insane]

00:14:596 (2,3) - No, you did all other as a 1/1 slider when intensity is the same, so do same or change 00:14:596 (2) - for a circle on 00:14:596 - . Same of all other like this (and stuff like 00:26:056 (1,2) - too).
01:19:821 (5,6,1) - Objects are too high and are covered by score and accuracy on a 4/3 ratio.
01:44:090 (1,2) - Weird after having a clean diff to see an overlap like this who ruin your consistency.
01:56:394 - Two greenlines at the same point.
The biggest problem on this diff is there's no spacing contrast between the section at 00:42:742 (2) - and the kiai, when the intensity of the song is clearly different. It also make a brutal diffspike just after the intro when it could be more progressive.

[Vicky's Insane]

00:03:135 - Make it playable pls, that's a super important beat and you make it played by a tons of circles before.
00:05:832 - ^
00:08:528 - / 00:09:877 - / 00:11:225 - / 00:30:101 - And again...
00:28:079 (3,4,1,2) - There's no point to increase so much spacing for vocal when the strongest beats are on 00:28:753 (1,2,3) - but you reduced it on this part. Adjust if to reflect more the song pls.
00:39:540 (1) - Why is that different than 00:34:146 (1) - ?
00:44:596 (2,3) - Huuuuge diffspike, reduce that a lot.
00:56:731 (4,5) - What is that jump ? Is that for the snare ? All other are way smaller than this one so nerf it.
01:09:877 (3,4) - Same kind of issues than above.
01:26:731 (1,2,1,2) - To work you should have done the exact opposite of what you done (smth like that https://puu.sh/vFQOk/4ef3e7cf64.png )
01:27:910 (2) - There's nothing here, that's pure overmapping, a single 3/4 slider is enough.
01:28:416 (2) - Why skip 01:28:585 - vocal ?
01:30:776 (1) - Why this slider is extended when 01:40:551 (3) - is not ?
01:38:528 (1,2) - Could you avoid super giant spacing between kick sliders ?
01:46:955 (1,2) - It should be like 01:37:349 (1) - since they cover same kind of sound.
This diff suffer from a lot of inconsistent spacing and a bad use of them who don't fit the song at all. you get some example during the mod but there's a lot more places where it could be improved.

[Vicky's Extra]

Intro could keep same spacing for all patterns, 00:05:832 (1,2,3,4) - this one feels out of nowhere.
The diff suffer like your Insane from all issues, like spacing. For example 00:24:708 (1,2,3) - you put 2.00x spacing between 00:24:708 (1,2) - but then you reduce it for 00:25:045 (2,3) - when vocal have more intensity than previous one. Other example 00:33:472 (2,3,4,5) - where snare are obviously stronger but you make lower spacing on them. There's a tons of places like this who could be improved.
00:31:787 (1,2,1,1,2) - Could you make it cleaner ? 00:33:388 (1,2) - Overlap due to autostack btw.
00:40:214 (3) - Why is it different from 00:37:517 (3,4) - ?
00:43:922 (1,2,1,2) - This is overmapping. No sound calls for kicksliders at all. Rhythm is not even constant enough to have them. Change for smth who follow more correctly an element of the music.
00:55:045 (1,2) - Same as your previous diff, nerf spacing between kicksliders it's really too much.
00:57:742 (3,4,1,2) - You know guitar starts only from 00:57:910 - so 00:57:742 (3) - don't work.

[Kencho's Wish]

00:15:270 (1) - Don't want to end slider on that beat instead of a weak one ?
00:20:663 (1) - Same but adding a circle on 00:21:169 - to match vocal (like you have done for 00:27:236 (4,1) - ) ?
00:59:764 (1,3) - OVERLAP!!! TRIGGERED!!!
01:32:124 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Tbh I don't think the last star works well, because the vocal is a bit different from before. You can hear it forming a 1-2-1-2 on 01:32:292 (2,3,4,5) - , so it would be nice to change that in order to match it better.
01:42:910 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Same.

Good luck.
Mukyu~

Anxient

1,568 posts

Joined June 2014

Anxient 2017-05-05T01:58:47+00:00

Nozhomi wrote:
[Anxient's Insane]
Could you half reduce NCs on intro ? That's really too much lol. - roger
00:40:214 (1) - No reason to have it ending on a blue tic when you skip melody on 00:40:382 - also highly inconsistent with rest of the section. - thought so
00:52:854 - Since you focus a lot on vocal, you could make this one clickable. - ok
01:30:438 (1,1) - I don't think these NCs are necessary. - same
Mukyu~ - fumu!

http://puu.sh/vFYfU/a84efb8df5.osu

waaai

LGV894

355 posts

Joined May 2013

LGV894 2017-05-06T14:15:57+00:00

Nozhomi wrote:
[LGV's Hard]
01:47:630 (3,4,1) - This pattern is not that good to play, because you naturally want to play 01:48:135 (1) - right after 01:47:630 (3) - . If you had done something like 01:32:798 (3,4,1) - it would be nice but right now it just do an akward movement to the player. But I've done the exact same pattern in the previous similar sections... The change in flow signifies and emphasizes the new section...
Too much overlaps (don't be like Linada pls lol). I'm not quite sure what's wrong about that... Who's Linada?

Seolv

847 posts

Joined March 2016

Seolv 2017-05-06T18:34:24+00:00

fixed everything from Noz's mod, thanks <3

I suck

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Kencho

952 posts

Joined August 2013

Kencho 2017-05-08T18:21:03+00:00

Nozhomi wrote:
[Kencho's Wish]
00:15:270 (1) - Don't want to end slider on that beat instead of a weak one ? No, actually I want to emphasize
00:15:944 (1,2,3) - but also not ignore vocals. If I use circle on 00:15:776 - then it feels weak for 00:15:944 (1,2,3) -
00:20:663 (1) - Same but adding a circle on 00:21:169 - to match vocal (like you have done for 00:27:236 (4,1) - ) ? ^
00:59:764 (1,3) - OVERLAP!!! TRIGGERED!!! hmm, I can use st. slider on 00:59:764 (1) - but it just a little breaking flow. I also don't want to change 01:00:270 (2,3,4,5,6) - because it is a nice hexagonal shape, so no change.
01:32:124 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Tbh I don't think the last star works well, because the vocal is a bit different from before. You can hear it forming a 1-2-1-2 on 01:32:292 (2,3,4,5) - , so it would be nice to change that in order to match it better. Yes I also think it should be fix, I just have no idea on this part before, but now I fixed.
01:42:910 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Same.^

Thanks for mod, also updated hitsounds diff

http://puu.sh/vJJOC/b240cd0ccb.zip

Illyasviel

218 posts

Joined July 2013

Topic Starter

Illyasviel 2017-05-08T20:38:44+00:00

Thanks to all. Updated Easy, and all the GDers who answered. I'm still working on buffing Normal and probably remapping Extra. All diffs have their hs updated.

Miriko

188 posts

Joined July 2014

Miriko 2017-05-10T00:13:56+00:00

Nozhomi wrote:
[Vicky's Insane]
00:03:135 - Make it playable pls, that's a super important beat and you make it played by a tons of circles before. When you mean playable, you meant clickable right? I know it's a strong beat but at the same time I want to express the pause between the bells by holding, hence the reason I mapped a slider instead of using all notes.
00:05:832 - ^ Same reason as above.
00:08:528 - / 00:09:877 - / 00:11:225 - / 00:30:101 - And again... I'll change the patterns to this when I have time.
00:28:079 (3,4,1,2) - There's no point to increase so much spacing for vocal when the strongest beats are on 00:28:753 (1,2,3) - but you reduced it on this part. Adjust if to reflect more the song pls. Fixed slightly~
00:39:540 (1) - Why is that different than 00:34:146 (1) - ? Because I assume it's a new section with a new guitar melody so I changed it accordingly.
00:44:596 (2,3) - Huuuuge diffspike, reduce that a lot. I don't see how this is a huge spike when it's just 2 kick sliders.
00:56:731 (4,5) - What is that jump ? Is that for the snare ? All other are way smaller than this one so nerf it. Okay.
01:09:877 (3,4) - Same kind of issues than above. Fixed as well.
01:26:731 (1,2,1,2) - To work you should have done the exact opposite of what you done (smth like that https://puu.sh/vFQOk/4ef3e7cf64.png ) It works both ways in my opinion. The concept was that there should have been a triplet that leads to a 1/2 slider but I decided to go with a kickslider that leads into a 3/4 slider.
01:27:910 (2) - There's nothing here, that's pure overmapping, a single 3/4 slider is enough. Changed.
01:28:416 (2) - Why skip 01:28:585 - vocal ? The 'i' vocal is hardly noticeable and it sounded like a single syllable with a slight pitch change.
01:30:776 (1) - Why this slider is extended when 01:40:551 (3) - is not ? I probably missed that. Extended the other slider~
01:38:528 (1,2) - Could you avoid super giant spacing between kick sliders ? Shortened the distance slightly.
01:46:955 (1,2) - It should be like 01:37:349 (1) - since they cover same kind of sound. So you're saying I should use a slider end for the start of the snares. You were adamant about how I shouldn't use slider ends for the bells earlier and now you're telling me I should use a slider end at one of the most intense part of the song? The bell parts could go either way since it's calm and it is the intro, but this is near the climax and I mapped it according to the intensity here.
This diff suffer from a lot of inconsistent spacing and a bad use of them who don't fit the song at all. you get some example during the mod but there's a lot more places where it could be improved. The map was originally my attempt at mapping out an Extra but it ended up under the star rating needed for the X icon so it was renamed into an Insane instead. The spacing was what's left over of that attempt.
[Vicky's Extra]
Intro could keep same spacing for all patterns, 00:05:832 (1,2,3,4) - this one feels out of nowhere.
The diff suffer like your Insane from all issues, like spacing. For example 00:24:708 (1,2,3) - you put 2.00x spacing between 00:24:708 (1,2) - but then you reduce it for 00:25:045 (2,3) - when vocal have more intensity than previous one. Other example 00:33:472 (2,3,4,5) - where snare are obviously stronger but you make lower spacing on them. There's a tons of places like this who could be improved.
00:31:787 (1,2,1,1,2) - Could you make it cleaner ? 00:33:388 (1,2) - Overlap due to autostack btw.
00:40:214 (3) - Why is it different from 00:37:517 (3,4) - ?
00:43:922 (1,2,1,2) - This is overmapping. No sound calls for kicksliders at all. Rhythm is not even constant enough to have them. Change for smth who follow more correctly an element of the music.
00:55:045 (1,2) - Same as your previous diff, nerf spacing between kicksliders it's really too much.
00:57:742 (3,4,1,2) - You know guitar starts only from 00:57:910 - so 00:57:742 (3) - don't work.

Decided to remove the Extra GD from the set. Too tired to handle two difficulties.

Good luck.
Mukyu~

Thank you for the mod~

Rawr

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Akitoshi

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Akitoshi 2017-05-30T07:10:07+00:00

Nozhomi wrote:
[Akitoshi's Insane]
00:41:731 (4,5) - Should have same spacing than 00:41:394 (2,3) - since it's a low beat. ok
00:51:506 (4,1) - This have don't a much stronger intensity than 00:50:832 (2,3) - , spacing is a bit too huge. Same for 00:52:854 (3,1) - and 00:54:203 (3,1) - . nerfed the first one but other jumps are fine enough on play

thanks !

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Version:Akitoshi's Insane
Source:
Tags:[_L_u_k_a_s_], Akitoshi, Anxient, Kencho, LGV894, Kisses, Victorica, Lulkas, utaite, kano, すきなの, sukinano, the night before the cherry blossoms
BeatmapID:1257819
BeatmapSetID:594067

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:6
CircleSize:4
OverallDifficulty:8.2
ApproachRate:9
SliderMultiplier:1.6
SliderTickRate:1

[Events]
//Background and Video events
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//Break Periods
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples

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_handholding 2017-06-01T00:37:33+00:00

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stuff orz

- Sunflower -

- Sunflower - 2017-06-02T04:18:01+00:00

From The Pigeons
[normal]

00:32:798 (3) - Red line? open aimod , change all worse

[hard]
00:05:832 (1) -
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8239593

00:20:663 (3,4,5,6) - Feel spacing is different

00:48:304 (2,3,4) - feel a little squeeze

[luka]
00:10:551 (4,1,2) - NC >00:05:158 (1,2,3) -
00:12:405 (3,4,5) - distance

00:33:472 (1) - NC↓
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8239632

00:47:461 (3) - add a circle?

01:30:776 (1,2) - >01:28:753 (4,5) -

[Akitoshi's Insane]
00:32:124 (1) - ↓

[Easy]
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8239690
01:37:349 (2) - ↑
01:47:967 (2) - ↑

[Vicky]
00:43:585 (1,3,1) - distance

[kencho]
01:22:686 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,3,1,2,1) - 这里的nc应该是这样子的。。大概(萌新甚至不敢放图
01:48:135 (2,2,3) - 要不要做个三角形
神

我去虾米看了看(
The album:すきなの。
lyricist:ほえほえP
should add tag..

~~最好是找人去查查来源啦~~
~~如果没选到我什么的就当成NM吧、、~~

好期待啊

Akitoshi

2,684 posts

Joined August 2014

Akitoshi 2017-06-02T13:40:14+00:00

idk what u wanted to say and i have no idea what i will do with that object so no change for me, thanks for looking though xd

Illyasviel

218 posts

Joined July 2013

Topic Starter

Illyasviel 2017-06-03T11:39:01+00:00

Finished remaps.

Last edited by Illyasviel 2017-07-06T22:11:37+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Bluekrait

202 posts

Joined March 2014

Bluekrait 2017-06-15T17:12:53+00:00

Insane mod for [XV]
PM me in game or through forum for any questions regarding my mod!

[Anxient's Insane]

I would rename to 'Anxient's Light Insane'
Only map in the set with a delayed start.
NC nightmare that not even I can mod properly, but I'll try.
00:35:495 (3) - NC
00:38:865 (3) - ^
00:39:034 (2,3,4,1) - Pretty big jump for insane
00:42:742 (1,2) - Ctrl G on timeline, then move NC to 2 (slider)
00:43:247 (1) - Remove NC
00:43:584 (3,1) - Start NC on 3
00:51:000 (1,3) - Move NC to 3
00:52:517 (1,3) - ^
00:57:068 (4) - NC (can do two combos per measure now since music picks up)
00:59:259 (3,1,2) - Ctrl G on timeline (circle-slider-slider), NC 3 and 2, remove NC on 1. Final image:
01:01:787 (3) - NC
01:05:832 (1) - Remove NC
01:24:034 (1,2) - Ctrl G on timeline
01:37:854 (2) - I think splitting these into two circles would fit better.
01:46:955 (1,1,2,1,2,1,2) - meme jumps >.>

[Lukas' Insane]

00:10:551 (4,1) - Start NC on 4
00:33:809 (1,2,4) - Move NC to 2 or 4
01:25:382 (1,2,3,4) - Pick a set degree and rotate each one by it to create a more uniform look.
01:28:079 (1) - Not highlighting this note, but the whole kiai. It's consistent, which is good, but shouldn't there be some type of difficulty increase? The spacing used throughout this kiai is similar and sometimes easier than everything in the calm beginning portions of the song. Increasing SV isn't enough if it isn't accompanied by increased DS.
01:49:315 (3,4,5,6,1) - Curve the stream more evenly.

[Akitoshi's Insane]

01:18:641 (3) - NC
01:28:753 (3,4) - Many instances of this two circle pattern in the chorus can be replaced with 1/2 sliders because two syllables are heard vs one syllable held out. There are sliders in the chorus that could have also been replaced with two circles.
01:29:090 (5) - ^ This could easily be two circles.

[Kisses' Insane]

01:00:776 (1) - Remove NC
01:22:686 (1,2,1,2,1,2,3,1,2,3) - Convert into two combos
01:36:506 (1) - Remove NC
01:40:888 (1) - ^
01:47:292 (1) - ^
01:49:652 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - ohgod more meme jumps, D: still best Insane in set

Akitoshi

2,684 posts

Joined August 2014

Akitoshi 2017-06-16T10:58:43+00:00

Bluekrait wrote:
[Akitoshi's Insane]
01:18:641 (3) - NC ok
01:28:753 (3,4) - Many instances of this two circle pattern in the chorus can be replaced with 1/2 sliders because two syllables are heard vs one syllable held out. There are sliders in the chorus that could have also been replaced with two circles. but my purpose on that pattern is to emphasize the clap on 01:29:090 - , 2 circles here will ruin it as will be clickable on red tick on 01:29:259 - and also there's a 2-hit drum on 01:28:753 (3,4) - if you listen to the music carefully.
01:29:090 (5) - ^ This could easily be two circles. explained above

thnks!

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Illyasviel

218 posts

Joined July 2013

Topic Starter

Illyasviel 2017-07-06T10:20:33+00:00

~~Please do not mod until I have finished updating the diffs (only 3 are pending an update offline).~~ All diffs have been updated.

Irohas

1,353 posts

Joined May 2014

Irohas 2017-07-08T10:35:38+00:00

helo m4m

kencho

00:39:540 (1,2,3,4) - what about muting these sliders? feels kinda weird sounds on slidersend imo
bigfan

extra

00:15:944 (3,1) - kinda weird imo try to not overlap (3) with (1) on this way, at least make the slider's head visible
00:33:135 - why not soft-hitnormal2
00:44:596 (7,8,9,10,1) - it's not good visually try to blanket or smth it will look better imo and keep a DS consistent
01:05:495 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - improve this star pattern
01:40:214 (7,1) - swap NC
01:51:000 (1) - why not move (1) just behind 01:50:326 (5) - to keep your pattern consistent?

kisses

saekano bg :eyes:
00:33:135 - same as extra diff
00:49:483 (2,3) - nazi stack
01:19:821 (5,6,1) - off-screen
01:37:180 (3,1) - actually i think that movement is a bit awkward imo, we dont expect such a movement due to your last pattern (01:36:169 (1,2,1,2,1,2,3) -) so i guess it's better to move (1) below (3)

anxient

00:41:731 (1) - better to change into circles (as 00:39:034 (4,5,6) -)
nothing really to complain in this diff, expect that dude there's alot of unnecessary nc, i know you put it due to emphazising but i think it's not really good when there are too many

normal

00:53:697 (2,3) - there's sound to map here, you did it on 00:51:000 (3,4,5) -
01:11:899 - you should map this because you ended up by following the music on 01:11:225 (5,6) -, and it feels weird being skipped
01:20:495 (2,3) - it's not a good idea to follow this rhythm for beginners imo, try to put those sliders on white ticks imo
01:33:304 (1,2) - move them a bit down
01:35:832 (3,3) - stack is recommended

[]
that's all for me glglg

Anxient

1,568 posts

Joined June 2014

Anxient 2017-07-09T16:57:19+00:00

Bluekrait wrote:
[Anxient's Insane]
I would rename to 'Anxient's Light Insane' - o
Only map in the set with a delayed start. - uh..
NC nightmare that not even I can mod properly, but I'll try.
00:35:495 (3) - NC - ka
00:38:865 (3) - ^ - y
00:39:034 (2,3,4,1) - Pretty big jump for insane - made it "smaller"
00:42:742 (1,2) - Ctrl G on timeline, then move NC to 2 (slider) - not what i was trying to emphasize. im following the snare.
00:43:247 (1) - Remove NC - imm gonna redo the NCs myself.
00:43:584 (3,1) - Start NC on 3
00:51:000 (1,3) - Move NC to 3
00:52:517 (1,3) - ^
00:57:068 (4) - NC (can do two combos per measure now since music picks up)
00:59:259 (3,1,2) - Ctrl G on timeline (circle-slider-slider), NC 3 and 2, remove NC on 1. Final image:
01:01:787 (3) - NC
01:05:832 (1) - Remove NC
01:24:034 (1,2) - Ctrl G on timeline - and let a strong beat be emphasized by a sliderend? no.
01:37:854 (2) - I think splitting these into two circles would fit better. - i agree
01:46:955 (1,1,2,1,2,1,2) - meme jumps >.> - repaired

@irohas: nah, its the simpler section of the song, id avoid making the player click so much so early. also fixed the MC my man

http://puu.sh/wFvvO/b3c6cf5a39.osu

Seolv

847 posts

Joined March 2016

Seolv 2017-07-09T21:37:19+00:00

- Sunflower - wrote:
[luka]
you forgot the s

00:33:472 (1) - NC↓
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8239632 it's for the pattern also the circle has a little bit of spacing emphasis so imma keep it for now

00:47:461 (3) - add a circle? ? it's perfectly fine as a slider

01:30:776 (1,2) - >01:28:753 (4,5) - i don't really get what you mean... sorry xd

Bluekrait wrote:
[Lukas' Insane]
01:25:382 (1,2,3,4) - Pick a set degree and rotate each one by it to create a more uniform look. it's good as it is
01:28:079 (1) - Not highlighting this note, but the whole kiai. It's consistent, which is good, but shouldn't there be some type of difficulty increase? The spacing used throughout this kiai is similar and sometimes easier than everything in the calm beginning portions of the song. Increasing SV isn't enough if it isn't accompanied by increased DS. but it has higher note density than the rest of the map which is making it harder, and it isn't even that much hyped or more intense than the other parts so I guess it's fine the way it is.
01:49:315 (3,4,5,6,1) - Curve the stream more evenly. ? i don't get what you mean, really lol

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Weedy

773 posts

Joined January 2014

Weedy 2017-07-10T04:31:40+00:00

im here dad

easy

00:33:472 (1,1) - nice blanket lol
00:39:034 - so many sounds dead
00:40:888 (2,1) - adjust this for long-range blanket to cure my ocd
00:48:641 (2,3) - nice blanket lol
00:53:023 (1,2,3) - squashed triangle looks ugly, fix (1) slider shape for better triangle aesthetic https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8552443
00:58:416 (1,2,3) - minor fix see above https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8552446
01:06:843 (2,3,4) - rework this to be | reverse slider | slider | slider | because strongest vocal 01:07:854 - here
01:08:528 (4,1) - you're not even trying here
01:10:214 (2,3) - minor blanket fix
01:12:236 (2,3,4) - rework as above because there's buildup of 3 beats then a 4 beat cooldown thing
01:17:630 (2,3,4) - rework as above
01:19:315 (4,1) - awful
01:24:034 (3,1) - why cramp like this when you can spread 01:23:697 (2,3,4) - this out a bit to make room
01:26:731 (2,3) - 3/2 slider please, more noob-friendly
01:29:090 (2,3) - blanket
01:30:438 (4,1) - didn't they say no overlaps at all in easy
01:33:304 (1,2,1,2) - questionable rhythm :reeee: eh it's fine :/
01:37:180 (2,3) - bend the slider more towards 3 for aesthetic
01:38:865 (1,2,3) - this looks better and flows a little nicer https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8552470
01:46:955 (1,2) - make these angled so it doesn't look like two snakes fornicating (google that) https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8552476 or something similar
01:49:652 (1,2) - most rhythm dense section k_hand:
01:51:000 (3,4) - horizontal eww, angle it up a little thank

normal

i hate the box box

00:10:551 (4,5) - make this a reverse 1/2 slider instead, cleaner
00:11:899 (2,3,4) - what is this 2009 curve the note in the middle a little https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8552496
00:15:944 (4) - see you even did the first point that i made here
00:18:978 (5,1) - overlay reee :sigh:
00:26:731 (4) - make this a circle because sliderend isn't on anything important seeing as you were mapping to vocals
00:30:101 (1,2) - rip box aesthetic you could've made ktg sliders instead :/ and a better rhytm here is | reverse 2/1 | circle | for last note emphasis
00:38:865 (4,5) - i recommend just a 1/2 slider here for simplicity
00:44:764 - beat not here but beat 00:44:090 (2) - here reee
00:45:607 (2,3,4) - same thing i said about 2009
00:51:674 (5) - not perpendicular to 00:51:000 (3) - please fix
01:04:483 (2,3) - not perpendicular fix
01:07:854 (4,5) - not parallel fix
01:10:046 (3,4) - not parallel fi- just clean up your box aesthetic thanks
01:29:090 (3,4,5) - this rhythm should also be used 01:28:079 (1,2) - here but eh
01:30:101 (1,2) - saaame
01:32:124 (1,2) - these two are off 01:31:450 (4) - this slider's square but 01:33:304 (1) - this is parallel lol nice make all of them perpendicular/parallel for consistency
01:37:349 (3) - AAA CURVED SLIDER GET IT OUT AAAA
01:49:652 (1,2,3,4,5) - where my box at
01:51:000 (5) - 1/2 slider for guitar thing
01:51:674 (1) - 1/2 slider same

lgv hard

wwww

00:03:809 (2,3,4) - this looks really bad lol | 00:03:809 (2,3) - weird angle and then you have | 00:04:483 (3,4) - (4) randomly strutting out | it's a hard go fix it with non-ds
00:19:315 (1) - ctrl j this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8553337 and then ctrl j 00:19:989 (2) - this too for consistency
00:24:371 - ree stupid slider tick mute them
00:32:461 - ree stupid slider ticks mute them
00:34:821 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - lazy lol you can do 1/1 slider -> circle -> 1/1 slider -> repeat and make it look nicer than just some 1/1 doubles zz
00:37:517 (2,3,4,5) - i guess this is fine because space exceptions
00:41:731 (1,2,1) - these 1/2 spacings compared to the following 00:42:236 (1,2) - fix please time distance equality
00:43:922 (3,1) - nice random 2.05x distance snap ctrl g it
00:49:652 (5,6) - same slider but 00:49:989 (6) - this is a lot stronger xd, change sv or spacing or make it into circles (just make it fancier)
00:49:483 - note here? probably stacked on (5) and then move the entire (5) stack a little to the right for distance snapping
00:55:719 (1,2) - 2 . 0 4 d s r e e e e e e e fixplease a lot of people will underaim and miss the (2)
00:55:719 (1) - rhythm this section is weird as fuck in a tv size :thinking: i
01:03:135 (3,4,1) - 01:02:798 (2,1) - overlaps ugly please fix xd just space everything out a little and then adjust 01:03:135 (3,4) - this to be more top-left-ward
01:04:483 (3) - make this a straight slider so it doesn't look like a half blanket
01:05:158 (1,2,3) - these would work better as a slight curve slider imo for curvature reasons (and because u use small curves a l ot)
01:20:495 (2,3) - blanket maybe
01:22:686 (1) - you should curve this downwards just a little bit for variation and because next pattern's sliders are curved
01:26:056 (3) - reduce by one reverse for the 5-burst's prep time
01:26:731 (1,2) - bump the sv a little bit because the buzz sliders before make these sliders feel really underwhelming (or just change the rhythm to 1/2 slider -> circle)
01:28:753 (3,4,2) - eww sandwich :shudder:
01:34:652 (1) - make this a wave slider for perceived aesthetics https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8553668 i also moved (3) a little bit for better triangle

cs5 mapper insane

00:00:439 - lazy, other mappers mapped this
00:19:315 (1,2) - make slider point into circle it's triggering me
00:28:079 (3) - shouldn't this be parallel to 00:27:405 (2) -
00:35:832 (4,2) - stack the circle like 00:35:495 (3,1) - for readability
00:38:865 (3,4,5,6) - disgusting lol, flip 4 and 5
00:40:888 (1,2) - this feels really weird to play into 00:41:731 (1) - imo, why not something like this http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8788874
01:09:708 (2,3,1) - change 3 to be like 1 for less awkward flow change
01:12:236 (1) - ctrl g for spooky stack
01:17:630 (1,2,3) - i expected this to be like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8788929 to match the vocals
01:19:652 (4) - make this two circles for vocals :^)
01:40:551 (3,3) - first slider has 1 vocal second has 2 :thinking:
01:51:169 (2,1,2,3) - i think it's better to stack the top of the triple instead of the bottom for reading

akithotshit insane

00:02:461 (7) - stack with 00:01:450 (4) - this instead, they both have the same pitch
00:10:551 (7) - make this slider - circle because vocals are cool too
00:36:843 (1,2,3) - not really much in the song to justify sharp flow change :///
00:41:394 (2,3,4,5,6) - if you're gonna monstrata then do it the right way with a hexgrid™
00:42:910 (3,5) - stack here because you stack 00:43:753 (2,4) - here
00:52:854 (3,1) - make the slider point into the circle it's triggering me
00:57:910 (4) - stack on slider end of 00:57:405 (2) - because sound isnt as strong
01:02:967 (2,3) - point into circle thing
01:36:169 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - disgusting hexgrid
01:36:843 (1) - nc here for cleanliness
01:47:630 (5) - nc
01:47:630 (5,6,7) - equilateral triangle thanks

Illyasviel

218 posts

Joined July 2013

Topic Starter

Illyasviel 2017-08-14T23:52:28+00:00

Irohas wrote:
helo m4m

extra
00:15:944 (3,1) - kinda weird imo try to not overlap (3) with (1) on this way, at least make the slider's head visible#Made 1 slightly more visible.
00:33:135 - why not soft-hitnormal2#fixed, issue with hs copier.
00:44:596 (7,8,9,10,1) - it's not good visually try to blanket or smth it will look better imo and keep a DS consistent
01:05:495 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - improve this star pattern#changed
01:40:214 (7,1) - swap NC#done
01:51:000 (1) - why not move (1) just behind 01:50:326 (5) - to keep your pattern consistent?#swapped triplet.
normal
00:53:697 (2,3) - there's sound to map here, you did it on 00:51:000 (3,4,5) - /different vocals, different patterns. Following vocals,
01:11:899 - you should map this because you ended up by following the music on 01:11:225 (5,6) -, and it feels weird being skipped /5,6 are guitar based. Your suggestion is for me to map drums. I'll keep it as it is.
01:20:495 (2,3) - it's not a good idea to follow this rhythm for beginners imo, try to put those sliders on white ticks imo#changed to something more simple
01:33:304 (1,2) - move them a bit down#done
01:35:832 (3,3) - stack is recommended#done
[]
that's all for me glglg#Thanks

[[Pika]] wrote:
im here dad

easy
00:33:472 (1,1) - nice blanket lol#changed
00:39:034 - so many sounds dead/ Yes, but I chose to follow the guitar.
00:40:888 (2,1) - adjust this for long-range blanket to cure my ocd#done
00:48:641 (2,3) - nice blanket lol / this looks fine to me
00:53:023 (1,2,3) - squashed triangle looks ugly, fix (1) slider shape for better triangle aesthetic https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8552443 #k
00:58:416 (1,2,3) - minor fix see above https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8552446 #k
01:06:843 (2,3,4) - rework this to be | reverse slider | slider | slider | because strongest vocal 01:07:854 - here
01:08:528 (4,1) - you're not even trying here
01:10:214 (2,3) - minor blanket fix
01:12:236 (2,3,4) - rework as above because there's buildup of 3 beats then a 4 beat cooldown thing
01:17:630 (2,3,4) - rework as above
01:19:315 (4,1) - awful
01:24:034 (3,1) - why cramp like this when you can spread 01:23:697 (2,3,4) - this out a bit to make room
01:26:731 (2,3) - 3/2 slider please, more noob-friendly
01:29:090 (2,3) - blanket
01:30:438 (4,1) - didn't they say no overlaps at all in easy
01:33:304 (1,2,1,2) - questionable rhythm :reeee: eh it's fine :/
01:37:180 (2,3) - bend the slider more towards 3 for aesthetic
01:38:865 (1,2,3) - this looks better and flows a little nicer https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8552470
01:46:955 (1,2) - make these angled so it doesn't look like two snakes fornicating (google that) https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8552476 or something similar
01:49:652 (1,2) - most rhythm dense section k_hand:
01:51:000 (3,4) - horizontal eww, angle it up a little thank
normal
i hate the box box
00:10:551 (4,5) - make this a reverse 1/2 slider instead, cleaner
00:11:899 (2,3,4) - what is this 2009 curve the note in the middle a little https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8552496
00:15:944 (4) - see you even did the first point that i made here
00:18:978 (5,1) - overlay reee :sigh:
00:26:731 (4) - make this a circle because sliderend isn't on anything important seeing as you were mapping to vocals
00:30:101 (1,2) - rip box aesthetic you could've made ktg sliders instead :/ and a better rhytm here is | reverse 2/1 | circle | for last note emphasis
00:38:865 (4,5) - i recommend just a 1/2 slider here for simplicity
00:44:764 - beat not here but beat 00:44:090 (2) - here reee
00:45:607 (2,3,4) - same thing i said about 2009
00:51:674 (5) - not perpendicular to 00:51:000 (3) - please fix
01:04:483 (2,3) - not perpendicular fix
01:07:854 (4,5) - not parallel fix
01:10:046 (3,4) - not parallel fi- just clean up your box aesthetic thanks
01:29:090 (3,4,5) - this rhythm should also be used 01:28:079 (1,2) - here but eh
01:30:101 (1,2) - saaame
01:32:124 (1,2) - these two are off 01:31:450 (4) - this slider's square but 01:33:304 (1) - this is parallel lol nice make all of them perpendicular/parallel for consistency
01:37:349 (3) - AAA CURVED SLIDER GET IT OUT AAAA
01:49:652 (1,2,3,4,5) - where my box at
01:51:000 (5) - 1/2 slider for guitar thing
01:51:674 (1) - 1/2 slider same

I'll remap Normal with a non-2008 style, I applied all your aesthetics fixes, unless noted in the comment. Rhythm choices are following vocals, so it's going to stay the same. Easy gave me cancer, so I deleted it, I'll ask around if I can find someone to GD me a pretty Easy.

_handholding

3,109 posts

Joined April 2014

_handholding 2017-08-28T03:01:40+00:00

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Illyasviel

218 posts

Joined July 2013

Topic Starter

Illyasviel 2017-08-29T05:43:16+00:00

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Seolv

847 posts

Joined March 2016

Seolv 2017-09-02T13:01:47+00:00

irc

2017-09-02 14:33 [ L u k a s ]: np it
2017-09-02 14:33 [ L u k a s ]: we can irc
2017-09-02 14:33 [XV]: rn?
2017-09-02 14:33 [ L u k a s ]: yeah
2017-09-02 14:34 [XV]: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1282628 Kano - Sakura no Zenya [Extra]]
2017-09-02 14:35 [ L u k a s ]: OH FUCKING
2017-09-02 14:35 [ L u k a s ]: no ;
2017-09-02 14:35 [ L u k a s ]: which diff
2017-09-02 14:35 [XV]: wat
2017-09-02 14:35 [XV]: Extra
2017-09-02 14:35 [XV]: Do you even remember?
2017-09-02 14:35 [XV]: lmao
2017-09-02 14:35 [ L u k a s ]: i do
2017-09-02 14:35 [ L u k a s ]: i dont have it doe
2017-09-02 14:36 [ L u k a s ]: ok i redownloaded
2017-09-02 14:37 [ L u k a s ]: 00:02:461 (4) - why does this have some weird tick hitsound or sth xd
2017-09-02 14:37 [ L u k a s ]: wait no it's the tail
2017-09-02 14:37 [ L u k a s ]: but why
2017-09-02 14:40 [XV]: You mean
2017-09-02 14:40 [XV]: The slider tick?
2017-09-02 14:40 [ L u k a s ]: yeah
2017-09-02 14:40 [ L u k a s ]: it's weird
2017-09-02 14:40 [ L u k a s ]: and it doesn't fit
2017-09-02 14:40 [XV]: Sergio suggested it
2017-09-02 14:40 [XV]: I honestly would silence it
2017-09-02 14:40 [ L u k a s ]: gross
2017-09-02 14:40 [ L u k a s ]: silence it
2017-09-02 14:41 [ L u k a s ]: 00:30:776 (2,3) - why does this have bigger spacing than 00:30:101 (1,2) -
2017-09-02 14:41 [XV]: I can't silence tho
2017-09-02 14:41 [XV]: Because the slider slide
2017-09-02 14:41 [XV]: Is already silenced
2017-09-02 14:41 [ L u k a s ]: fuck
2017-09-02 14:41 [ L u k a s ]: anyways
2017-09-02 14:42 [ L u k a s ]: 00:47:124 (2) - this has weird placement and it has bigger spacing that players might confuse for a 1/1 gap
2017-09-02 14:42 [ L u k a s ]: and considering that the sound is very very silent on 00:47:124 - and louder on 00:47:292 - i would just delete that slider and add a circle on 00:47:292 -
2017-09-02 14:43 [ L u k a s ]: 01:01:618 (3,5) - this overlap....... ew, maybe stack it or move it around
2017-09-02 14:43 [XV]: Is the guitar that soft?
2017-09-02 14:44 [ L u k a s ]: 00:59:427 (4) - rip drum
2017-09-02 14:45 [ L u k a s ]: make the slider end clickable
2017-09-02 14:45 [ L u k a s ]: 01:10:888 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - these jumps have a lot of overlaps which doesn't look very good ;w;
2017-09-02 14:45 [XV]: rip, going to replace it for two circles
2017-09-02 14:46 [ L u k a s ]: 01:25:382 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - Ctrl+G
2017-09-02 14:46 [XV]: None of those jumps have overlaps, the first set
2017-09-02 14:46 [ L u k a s ]: because it's getting more intense you have to use denser rhythms
2017-09-02 14:47 [ L u k a s ]: that's it
2017-09-02 14:47 [XV]: https://puu.sh/xpHwa/71081cc9fd.png
2017-09-02 14:47 [XV]: What overlaps
2017-09-02 14:49 [ L u k a s ]: it's visible in the editor a bit more
2017-09-02 14:49 [ L u k a s ]: i tried playing it in game and it doesn't show up
2017-09-02 14:49 [ L u k a s ]: ok ima post this kek
2017-09-02 14:49 [XV]: LOL
2017-09-02 14:49 [ L u k a s ]: im helpful ikr
2017-09-02 14:50 [ L u k a s ]: i mean the jumps (some) look a bit random but k
2017-09-02 14:50 [XV]: Well, I'm doing another m4m today
2017-09-02 14:50 [XV]: So I hope it's better :^)
2017-09-02 14:51 [XV]: After some of those, I'll ask a T1 BN to check the map
2017-09-02 14:59 [ L u k a s ]: gl
2017-09-02 14:59 [ L u k a s ]: ima post now lo

Hectic

511 posts

Joined August 2015

Hectic 2017-09-02T18:18:35+00:00

hola, m4m

Unused hitsounds: normal-hitfinish2.wav
spinner on Easy ends earlier than any other diff for some reason
hitnormal and slidertick is the same sound im the beginning which seems.. odd to me, i dunno

Kencho's Wish:

mostly subjective stuff here, maybe youll find some things cool

why there are so many ncs in the beginning? i really don't think it's much needed (i mean 00:01:787 (1) - 00:04:483 (1) - 00:07:180 (1) - 00:09:877 (1) - and so on)
00:05:326 (2,3) - i'd make them really-really close to each other, even stacked, because note of instrumental is the same, and emphasizing that seems cool
00:10:888 (3) - rhythm is quite weird here, its not clear what you are emphasizing, maybe make something like this to emphasize vocals?
00:33:472 (1,2,3,4,5) - i personally wouldn't make such flow for this sounds, it doesn't really represent it well, i mean (2) and (4) are snares and (1) and (3) is something else, something like back-and-forth would do
00:36:674 (6) - maybe emphasize snare? it really stands out
01:51:506 (3,3) - first one is drums, second is guitar, but mapped the same, maybe show difference? make on of them triple, for example

Extra:

00:33:388 - ignoring beats here seems odd
01:51:506 (1,3) - swapping nc seems more logical
01:52:349 (7) - nc?

Vicky's Insane:

i didn't quite get why intro (everything till vocal) has such weird rhythm, it doesn't really represent music
01:03:809 (1,2) - could be improved
01:22:180 (5,1) - ^
01:24:034 (1) - that's awkward (i mean nc)
01:29:427 (1) - maybe remove nc?
01:51:169 (2,1,2,3) - you didn't stack those, but you did 01:51:843 (4,5,6,1) - why?

Kisses' Insane:

00:10:888 (4,1,2) - maybe make rhythm so it follows vocal
00:33:388 - represent drums?
00:41:225 (2,3,4) - didn't quite get whys there a triple
00:52:517 - 00:52:854 - would be better imo if you don't ignore these ticks, doesn't feel natural since bass drum is really audible
01:38:865 (1,2) - what do these follow? i mean why they are extended
01:51:000 (1,2) - i think you really should emphasize this thing a bit more, because now it seems like part of this 01:49:652 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - stuff

Akitoshi's Insane:

00:11:225 (1,2) - why most of you guys chose this rhythm if you want to express vocal, i don't get it D:
00:33:388 - why not represent drums?
01:26:056 (1,2,3,4) - maybe change this to buzzslider so this stuff 01:26:394 (5,6,7,8) - would be emphasized?

Lukas' Insane:

00:10:719 (1) - whys there nc
00:10:888 (2,1,2) - weird rhythm again
01:07:180 (1,3) - swap nc?

few, hope this helped. my thing for m4m - https://osu.ppy.sh/s/654575. Good luck!

strickluke

433 posts

Joined March 2015

strickluke 2017-09-02T22:34:06+00:00

delete

Illyasviel

218 posts

Joined July 2013

Topic Starter

Illyasviel 2017-09-05T06:48:46+00:00

strickluke wrote:
delete

Delete your life first, then I'll think about it

LGV894

355 posts

Joined May 2013

LGV894 2017-09-12T02:14:26+00:00

[quote="wiki:Pika":1337]iM hErE dAd

lgv hard

wwww

00:03:809 (2,3,4) - this looks really bad lol | 00:03:809 (2,3) - weird angle and then you have | 00:04:483 (3,4) - (4) randomly strutting out | it's a hard go fix it with non-ds :< idk how to fix, I'll try some time later
00:19:315 (1) - ctrl j this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8553337 and then ctrl j 00:19:989 (2) - this too for consistency that ruins the circular flow :/
00:24:371 - ree stupid slider tick mute them reeeeeee kek
00:32:461 - ree stupid slider ticks mute them REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE ficc
00:34:821 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - lazy lol you can do 1/1 slider -> circle -> 1/1 slider -> repeat and make it look nicer than just some 1/1 doubles zz ew no that would ruin the supposed emphasis on hihats bcs take a break take HitHat kek
00:37:517 (2,3,4,5) - i guess this is fine because space exceptions lol I used the exact same DS, it's just the stacking
00:41:731 (1,2,1) - these 1/2 spacings compared to the following 00:42:236 (1,2) - fix please time distance equality omfg sorry
00:43:922 (3,1) - nice random 2.05x distance snap ctrl g it that's not random bcs strong snare :>
00:49:652 (5,6) - same slider but 00:49:989 (6) - this is a lot stronger xd, change sv or spacing or make it into circles (just make it fancier) that's not stronger, 00:50:158 - this is stronger. so idk bcs it's hard and I don't want consecutive 1/2s in the calm part so idk rip
00:49:483 - note here? probably stacked on (5) and then move the entire (5) stack a little to the right for distance snapping idk I'll try
00:55:719 (1,2) - 2 . 0 4 d s r e e e e e e e fixplease a lot of people will underaim and miss the (2) what? I don't think so. I think it's an okay-ish introduction bcs kiai is jumps
00:55:719 (1) - rhythm this section is weird as fuck in a tv size :thinking: i idk
01:03:135 (3,4,1) - 01:02:798 (2,1) - overlaps ugly please fix xd just space everything out a little and then adjust 01:03:135 (3,4) - this to be more top-left-ward 01:02:798 (2,1) - this isn't really much noticable but I'll try fixing it. (3,4,1) looks fine to me idk
01:04:483 (3) - make this a straight slider so it doesn't look like a half blanket imo that's uglier bcs it's too close to (2) then it'll look like a rigid anti-blanket ew
01:05:158 (1,2,3) - these would work better as a slight curve slider imo for curvature reasons (and because u use small curves a l ot) idk bcs it's drums and I just used curved slider right before that, so the straight ones are for differentiation of some sort, but Maybe IDK
01:20:495 (2,3) - blanket maybe DS too high and would be inconsistent with other blankets, imo
01:22:686 (1) - you should curve this downwards just a little bit for variation and because next pattern's sliders are curved that looks ugly
01:26:056 (3) - reduce by one reverse for the 5-burst's prep time I don't think that's much of a problem, but I'll look into it
01:26:731 (1,2) - bump the sv a little bit because the buzz sliders before make these sliders feel really underwhelming (or just change the rhythm to 1/2 slider -> circle) no bcs of difficulty buildup from the burst, if I made that difficult, everything would be too difficult
01:28:753 (3,4,2) - eww sandwich :shudder:
01:34:652 (1) - make this a wave slider for perceived aesthetics https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8553668 i also moved (3) a little bit for better triangle good idea but wtf is that slider. I think the triangle ruins 01:35:158 (2,3) -
???

please change name to wiki:Pika

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