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keekihime * Yuumi & JUMA - Eiya no Parade

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cjn1508
37 posts
Joined April 2015
cjn1508
[normal]
01:24:959 (5,6,1) - 可以出现分配一下节奏
01:27:052 (3) - 有些别扭
01:31:005 (4,5) - 中间可以用一个音符
02:13:796 (1) - 左右翻转

[117's]
很流畅

[hard]
00:14:843 (1) - 转盘早一点完 再塞个音符进去
00:34:261 (3,4,3,4) - 这两个地方 抓的音都跟其它小节不一样啊
01:31:470 (2) - nc放这儿
01:46:354 (2) - 同理
有些三角形的三连没必要都可以换掉
听起来有些别扭

[light insane]
00:14:843 (1) - 转盘跟hard的一个道理
00:32:866 (2) - 摆下去一点
01:09:145 (2,3,4) - 有些奇怪了
01:31:936 (3,4) - 打的时候会误解其节奏

[insane]
01:15:889 (1) - 远了
01:47:284 (4,5) - 放开一点
01:17:982 (1) - 01:23:331 (8) - 好雾 后面那段同理
转盘尾也需要考虑一下呢
02:12:401 (3) - 弄成滑条

很好听的歌
原来mp时有人点了那首
一直留在电脑上
还拷了一份在手机上打
铺面不错
又涨了作图姿势
我就射一星吧
ArThasCD
792 posts
Joined May 2010
Topic Starter
ArThasCD
@- Frontier -: have made the object stacked and adjuxt the slider. I think the jumps before kiai time fit the music tho.

@iYiyo: fixed almost everything ! About a point you mentioned:
00:53:331 - 00:55:191 - 00:57:052 - etc... Don't really know why are you skipping those strong beats... I mean they're quite notorious, and even being a Normal diff, they should be mapped. I'd also add some slider on this sections too.
I'd like to reduce the ryhthm to make this part "slow down" since the music is softer than another part. I like to see the kind of changing for maps.

@Emilia: fixed some ryhthm errors. I think the slider looks fine.

@squirrelpascals: fixed the triplets, pattern for Insane, changed the slider shape for Light Insane, fixed the spaces between objects and fixed the rhythms for Hard. About Light Insane you mentioned, I'd like to make more 1/1 ryhthms to express the song and this diff bcz I like the style tho.

@Electoz: fixed all except:
00:49:843 (2,1) - Not really recommend breaking DS for the sake of visuals, since you don't usually blanket stuff like this so this one looks inconsistently done compared to other things in the diff. it looks fine for me.

And about Hard diff: After your suggestion I adusted some stuff to make some patterns more sense and looked better. I use jumps basic on some strong beats, like strong vocals and claps. Also according to the music is going, changing the rhythm for different part to compare with the others works well to me, same as Insane and Light Insane, so I'd like to keep some patterns and jumps I previous made.
Thank you for your mod and star ! :)

@CircleFairy: adjusted the spacing a bit but I think the jumps are fine.

@Ellyu: 修了點細部的東西。話說Normal，是我的話一定不會刪這個難度，我比較希望看到的是不一樣感覺的圖，而不是誰來做都可以做出來的符合市場口味的圖，對我來說刪了略蠢。折返滑條切flow用來做音樂軌道轉換的方式的確很不錯，下次會運用上這個技巧，感謝你告訴我 ;)

@cjn1508: 修了個Insane的艱鉅，不過其他看起來都還好。好霧是看不清楚的意思嗎 ? 不太懂，不過還是謝謝你看圖，這麼晚回抱歉了，現實有些事要處理。感謝射星，可是我來不及點KD給你了，真不好意思... :o

@Hikawa Hina 謝謝你的星星！


sorry for late reply. Thank you so much for your mods <3
-Aerith-
843 posts
Joined March 2015
-Aerith-
NM FROM MY QUEUE ~


Normal
-00:03:563 this slider is pretty ugly imo (in my opinion) , try to fix it maybe ?
-01:10:540 (1,2,3) blanket maybe ?
-01:17:982 rather than circle what about making it into 1/1 slider ? cause i think thats too much for a new player ~
-01:19:843 could use 1/2 slider in here and in here -01:20:308
-01:20:773 and then change this to circle rather than a kick slider

117's Normal
-01:08:447 can you make this into a normal curve like this one instead -01:07:750 ?

Hard
AR(Approach rate) for should be 7 rather than 6 and OD is 6 and HP is 6
-00:14:494 add circle in here pls ~ it feels empty imo
-02:09:145 ctrl + g
-02:13:331 ctrl + g
-00:28:447 (2,3) ctrl + g

Actually , you can fade the song from here -02:02:633 lol ~
Anyway , Good Luck !!!
July - San
137 posts
Joined July 2016
July - San
hi-Hi

From my queue !
Okay let's see here..

Normal

00:57:517 (4) - NC Here (new combo)

01:01:238 (3) - NC here too

02:07:982 (4) - change this slider for a circle, It's better :D

117's Normal

01:22:633 (3) - NC

Hard

00:38:680 (2) - This slider actually starts here 00:38:912 -

put a circle here 00:38:680 -

00:23:796 (2) - This slider actually starts here 00:24:029 -

put a circle here 00:23:796 -

Do the same with these 00:31:238 (2) - 00:46:122 (2) -

01:17:284 (4) - NC

put a circle here 01:37:517 -

02:00:308 (4) - NC

Light Insane

00:38:680 (1) - This does not follow any rhythm ! , it should start here 00:38:912 - /or put a circle here 00:38:912 - and here 00:38:680 -

00:58:214 (2) - Do not you think a lap would look good on this slider?

01:01:703 (2) - in this, another lap too.

01:17:052 (3) - This does not follow any rhythm :?

02:15:424 (5) - in this, another lap too.

Insane

put a circle here 00:46:354 -

01:05:889 (7) - NC here or here 01:05:424 (5) -

01:12:866 (5) - Nc here

02:00:773 (8) - Maybe looks better a NC here

02:16:587 (7) - NC

I'm sorry for the late
Anyway---Good map !

I'll wait for the ranking :D

bye ! :)
ArThasCD
792 posts
Joined May 2010
Topic Starter
ArThasCD
@-Aerith- : I feel fine with what you pointed out. The slider looks good to me. Also I think AR6 fits Hard well.

@July - San : added NCs for Insane. The rhythm you mentioned follows music for sure though.

thank you for mod !
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Lafayla
Beatmap Nominator
348 posts
Joined December 2014
Lafayla
Nice mapset
take a star :3~
ArThasCD
792 posts
Joined May 2010
Topic Starter
ArThasCD

Lafayla wrote:

Nice mapset
take a star :3~
thank you ~ :D
Shanipika
114 posts
Joined April 2015
Shanipika
Hai from mod queue

[Insane]

  1. 01:21:703 (1,2) - I think you could ctrl-g this and this 01:22:168 (3,4) - to create a rotation change in the movement here would feel nicer to play imo

    I usually dont like this type of spaced jump map but for some reason I kinda enjoy this one owo
[Light Insane]

  1. 01:34:029 - I think you should put a circle here to map the vocal
  2. 01:48:912 - Same here
[Hard]

  1. 01:27:517 - Think you should put a circle here to map the vocal
  2. 01:43:098 (2) - This slider could be on the red tick here to catch both vocal? Or just put a circle on it like you did here 01:57:750 (2) -
[Normal]

Im really not sure about this normal diff tho? I think first of all you should adapt your DS so that 1/2 gaps dont just barely overlap so like either boosting it just a little so that the have a small space between them or reducing it to make a nicer overlap. Then for the rhythm choices I feel like you leave a lot of huge gap because its a normal and stuff but thats not really necessary to leave so many huge 2/1 gap everywhere. You can fill most of them with atleast a 1/1 slider end would already be much better. Also some places you could add 1/2 slider to catch vocals maybe, you kinda only used 1/2 to catch those clap sounds 01:35:889 (5) - but I feel vocals are often stronger in the song and you kinda just ignore them a lot? So that would also help this diff a lot. Unless you want to make an Easy diff then like the 1/2 stuff is meh :/



I actually find this set interessting although really not a fan of this normal diff but mostly really nice set owo
hi-mei
784 posts
Joined June 2014
hi-mei
hi, form my queue

Insane

00:05:424 (1) - Maybe change these to something like that? https://puu.sh/ynhRs/0b3883e39f.png looks a lot better

00:06:354 (2) - https://puu.sh/ynhSr/41b2c60276.png

00:12:866 (1) - https://puu.sh/ynhU8/f5c6f69198.png

00:13:796 (2) - https://puu.sh/ynhVb/6479042cd3.png
ArThasCD
792 posts
Joined May 2010
Topic Starter
ArThasCD
@Shanipika : about what you described to Normal. I'd say it's personal taste and feeling. I did many rhythm changing with 2/1, 1/1 and a bit 1/2 to the Normal. using 2/1 made this diff not only easier but more difficult since you don't click too much beats in the same time (easier) but you need to read more careful (more difficult), it's interesting to me. Also, the Normal is lowest diff, it's necessary to skip beats so I couldn't follow every beats for the song. Maybe you want to see higher* Normal to follow every beats but no, I don't want to do this for Normal. I'd say why you don't just play 3*↑ Hard or something ? :P I think those claps are strong enough to follow every of them. That's my taste :P anyway Thank you for mod ! :)

@hi-mei : thank you for your 12 seconds check, fixed the slider shape.

@- Squishi : I think spacings are fine, also the slider plays no problem to me though. Thank you for mod ~
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audinor
audinor
ok hey
top diff
00:43:563 (3,4,5,6) - these are spaced out way too far for the same noise, move it to the left some
01:15:424 (5) - change these to circles, as the sound in the song is too important to not be clickable
01:21:703 (1,2,3,4) - move to the left, notes are overemphasized
01:31:005 (1,2) - it's kinda hard to tell if this is 1/1th or 1/2th due to the previous extreme spacing shown
rest of diffs alright
the only problem i found in the light insane was 01:29:610 (2,3) - these sliders. if they had 1 or 2 points they would look a lot more appealing
hard
00:23:563 (1,2) - this is spaced a little too big. it's pretty unnecessary
00:31:005 (1,2) - this is basically the exact same thing as ^
00:32:633 (1,2,1) - spacing makes it hard to tell if it is 1/1th or 1/2th
00:38:447 (1,2) - the same as 00:23:563 jeez man im on a roll
rest of set's fine
J1_
104 posts
Joined February 2015
J1_
Heyo from my mod queue,

Normal:

01:41:238 (2) - I feel like this slider shape is out of place, it's only used once in the entire map and it doesn't really represent a certain sound in the song

Hard:

00:09:610 (2) - No need for 3 white anchors

01:07:750 (3) - Can be replaced with a 1/2 slider

02:16:587 (3) - NC

Light Insane:

01:06:819 (1) - This slider is just not aesthetically pleasing, it can definitly look much better. Not only for this one, but I suggest looking up or trying out making long good looking slider shapes (or steal from other mappers but that's no fun :P)

General:

It's a nice mapset, flows nicely and just needs a little bit of retouches, Good luck~!
Delis
1,433 posts
Joined May 2012
Delis
eww DNA style is it, can I mod this
ArThasCD
792 posts
Joined May 2010
Topic Starter
ArThasCD

Delis wrote:

eww DNA style is it, can I mod this
Wow really? Feel free to mod this please :)
Delis
1,433 posts
Joined May 2012
Delis
yea should avoid using ogg files lol

[General]
I think renaming the Insane to "Lunatic" and the Light Insane to "Insane" makes more sense to how the difficulty name in touhou maps is structured, we don't really see the combination with Light Insane and Insane in any touhou maps xD.

you could've finished mapping at 02:02:633 - because the feed out at 02:15:889 - feels awkward, well I don't really care much though!

speaking of metadata, I've brought up some links that may be helpfully working, http://com.nicovideo.jp/community/co436515 / http://profile.ameba.jp/keeki-hime / http://dic.nicovideo.jp/a/%E3%82%B1%E3% ... A%E6%B5%B7 / https://delisha.s-ul.eu/ay3qo7nm (the 10th) / http://www16.big.or.jp/~zun/html/th08top.html
so as you can see in the first and second links, she apparently prefers the way writing her name in all romaji, in the third link you can just get to know the way how to read "優海" in her name (it's just fanmade but should be most reliable information for her so far), in the forth link you will have everything what you need for artist/title and the fifth link does speak the source it self.
so this is the stuff what I've got from them, prob you just can copy them into .osu lol
Artist:keekihime * Yuumi & JUMA
ArtistUnicode:ケーキ姫☆優海＆JUMA
and replace the current source with 東方永夜抄　～ Imperishable Night. move 東方Project to tags instead.

finally you might wanna add 千年幻想郷 ～ history of the moon and 竹取飛翔 ～ lunatic princess in the tags, for options for the original songs.

soft-hitfinish6.wav is too loud imo, it occasionally hurts my ears during playing, maybe reduce the volume by editing the file. also normal-hitclap6.wav is unused, delete it.
[Insane]
00:38:447 (7) - how about having a new combo here, probably it can spice up the jump since it plays differently from 00:37:052 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - so separate it visually for better looking.
01:02:401 (1,2) - did this jump need to be this huge? I mean, this still plays fine but the kind of same spacing as 01:01:703 (3,4) - can apply to 01:02:401 (1,2) - as well, it could be more intuitive imo. https://delisha.s-ul.eu/wOkx36Gg this actually feels decent that how it flows to 01:03:098 (1) - should give a shot!
01:10:075 (7) - unstack and place this in the equal spacing like 01:03:098 (1,2,3,4,5) - is, I don't really think this stack works well here lol.
01:17:982 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - I think the circles chain is too long, especially the song isn't really at an intense section that calls a plenty of circles. to fix it, 01:19:843 (1,2,3,4) - for example is good place to have 2 1/2 sliders because 01:19:843 (1,2,3,4) - is irrelevant to 01:20:773 (5,6,7,8) - in comparison with 01:17:982 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - as this is built up to be one pattern with the 8 circles. https://delisha.s-ul.eu/PhJ2v76Z like this can give it a great room to take a break from the circles, and so you can start playing the circles again with less tiredness in your hands.
01:33:796 (3,4) - could make a bigger jump maybe? I thought the flow here doesn't look clearn compared to the other patterns, https://delisha.s-ul.eu/Z9BtGa2H it's up to you after all but you still could use some polish for the 2 circles i think.
01:57:982 (1) - remove the nc, it looks odd when you didn't do this anywhere else.
[Light Insane]
cs3 on this looks really pleasant for me but whatever lol
00:41:936 (3) - 00:43:796 (3) - you forgot nc or what lol
01:45:191 - a circle would fit really nicely, otherwise this section is really underwhelming as on the kick sliders what all you need to do is holding the sliders, plus two 1/1 blanks in a measure can be too undermapped xD.
[Hard]
I'm not against the idea at all, but having insane-ish jumps in an ar6 map may be really cancerous. you could try to decrease the spacing where have a 1/2 jump such as 00:21:470 (1,2) -, 00:23:563 (1,2) -, 00:25:424 (2) - etc.. nerfing the 1/2 jumps wouldn't hurt you much if the patterns are similar. 01:07:517 (2,3,4,5) - this pattern will be extremely harder if the 1/2 jumps were as it is lol.
the fact above makes the set a bit further from ranking section because the concept is fundamentally something that should be introduced in Insane+ diff.
[117's Normal]
it's always better to have a spinner in lower diffs :<
00:20:308 (5) - should remove the extra tick of the slider it might cause unrankable shit
01:16:122 (4) - feels like this slider should've been 1/2 tick earlier (at 01:15:889 - ) for the vocal, the rhythm you're relying on is the vocals thus you can actually move it right there and add a note at 01:16:587 - to fulfill the rhythm for the drum here.
01:20:773 (5) - could consider replace this with 2 circles, i think the combo chain here is too long because sliders are usually harder than circles lol.
[Normal]
these x2 1/2 sliders combo is the only thing that might be "too hard" in this difficulty a.k.a the lowest diff, the rest seems fine.
02:03:563 - the outro here has very weird rhythm imo, in this difficulty 2/1 blanks were not common at all but all of sudden you have a lot of it in the ending of the map, maybe fulfill the 2/1 blanks by circles or whatever.

I still have things to write up here about the rankability thing but posting the main concerns for now :P great set except the unrankable things!! hit me up once you are done with this and the other mods
ArThasCD
792 posts
Joined May 2010
Topic Starter
ArThasCD
Thank you for mod Delis ! I'll check mods once I get home tomorrow :)

EDIT: okay I borrowed someone's computer to do this now
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DreaM117er
1,594 posts
Joined September 2012
DreaM117er

Delis wrote:

yea should avoid using ogg files lol
[117's Normal]
it's always better to have a spinner in lower diffs :<
00:20:308 (5) - should remove the extra tick of the slider it might cause unrankable shit
01:16:122 (4) - feels like this slider should've been 1/2 tick earlier (at 01:15:889 - ) for the vocal, the rhythm you're relying on is the vocals thus you can actually move it right there and add a note at 01:16:587 - to fulfill the rhythm for the drum here. >all part follow vocal
01:20:773 (5) - could consider replace this with 2 circles, i think the combo chain here is too long because sliders are usually harder than circles lol.
All fixed

Actually, it's an old GD for me. :)

Thanks Delis.

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ArThasCD
792 posts
Joined May 2010
Topic Starter
ArThasCD
@xJ1 : fixed sliders you mentioned. The other things are fine to me. thank you for mod ~

@Delis : all fixed. that was really helpful :) Thanks a lot !


updated 117's diff.
Delis
1,433 posts
Joined May 2012
Delis
you need the . in the end of the source :P

https://delisha.s-ul.eu/enHXBRGS replace the soft-sliderslide files with them, I don't think it would be a big problem but we're recommended to use the official blank files which are 44bytes so.

00:20:308 (5) - in dream117er's diff it's still suspicious you can delete the slider tick that the pic indicates for him lol

that's it from me, I think the outro in normal would be nice if you mapped the rhythm denser like this it works better with the rest in this diff.

send me pm again when you're done with them.
Delis
1,433 posts
Joined May 2012
Delis
yes
DreaM117er
1,594 posts
Joined September 2012
DreaM117er
Sure, do it do it :) :)
Garden
Nomination Assessment Team
1,343 posts
Joined June 2013
Garden
Normal:
可以考虑hp3od3，比117normal低一点

117's Normal:
用s sample开头音量低一点，那个sliderslide有一点吵

Hard:
01:11:238 (2,3,4,5) - 这里容易想到之前那段前奏的折返跳而读成1/2的间隔，建议换种摆法试试
01:16:354 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - 节奏很模糊，不容易抓到跟的什么，insane那里就比较直观
01:35:424 - 01:42:866 - 01:50:308 - 像 01:57:750 - 一样跟到人声? 我感觉kiai里就没必要这么空那么多了，也不会难很多
02:03:563 (2,3,4) - 02:05:424 (3,4) - 我感觉这两组节奏应该反过来，让 02:05:657 - 02:05:889 - 两个clap都clickable，后面类似节奏的地方也是，你insane里就做得挺好

Insane:
00:23:796 (3,4) - 视觉上太挤了，可以把 00:24:494 (4,2) - 都移下来一点
01:34:029 - 01:48:912 - 也是人声，建议加个圈。或者用 01:40:308 (1,2,3) - 一样的节奏，这样也能保持1/1间隔的想法。

Lunatic:
比起 01:17:982 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - ，01:19:843 - 这里连续的1/2音节才更适合连续用圈吧
DreaM117er
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DreaM117er
幫我加一個無聲的滑條音 :)
ArThasCD
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ArThasCD

Garden wrote:

Hard:
01:11:238 (2,3,4,5) - 这里容易想到之前那段前奏的折返跳而读成1/2的间隔，建议换种摆法试试 這邊不用擔心，因為我沒有在前面用過這種跳，所以之前看別人測試圖的時候大家也沒誤讀
01:16:354 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - 节奏很模糊，不容易抓到跟的什么，insane那里就比较直观 這裡跟背景音，不過我把01:15:657 (5) - 改成2個circles重疊，這樣應該明顯多了!
01:35:424 - 01:42:866 - 01:50:308 - 像 01:57:750 - 一样跟到人声? 我感觉kiai里就没必要这么空那么多了，也不会难很多我還是想保持Hard應有的難度，這樣它跟Insane的難度差別才會保持比較好~
02:03:563 (2,3,4) - 02:05:424 (3,4) - 我感觉这两组节奏应该反过来，让 02:05:657 - 02:05:889 - 两个clap都clickable，后面类似节奏的地方也是，你insane里就做得挺好 比較低難度的這樣做是因為滑條跳比較簡單但又比重疊的2個circles有趣多，難度降低又比較有趣是我希望看到的

Lunatic:
比起 01:17:982 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - ，01:19:843 - 这里连续的1/2音节才更适合连续用圈吧 這裡其實我覺得整段的音都蠻適合circles的(刪掉物件聽原曲)，只是為了circles和sliders平衡所以才這麼下
其他都改了，謝謝你的mod !! :)
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omg thanks garden
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