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toby fox - Bergentrueckung [OsuMania]

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zigizigiefe
952 posts
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zigizigiefe
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 5 Şubat 2018 Pazartesi at 03:30:24

Artist: toby fox
Title: Bergentrueckung
Source: UNDERTALE
Tags: Surono Asgore boss battle spare mercy determination
BPM: 113
Filesize: 5403kb
Play Time: 00:34
Difficulties Available:
  1. Easy - 4Key (1,2 stars, 97 notes)
  2. Sur's Normal - 4Key (2,08 stars, 165 notes)
Download: toby fox - Bergentrueckung
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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This map actually brings me back old memories, when I was keen on osu!mania mapping and there's not many osu!mania mappers. I am aware it's 35sec song edited through Audacity on condition that is repetitive, but at least it's much better than R3 Music Box trend (no offence if you abandoned yourself to have a ranked map), so don't even bother to say anything about its length, it'd get us nowhere. If you still keep your mind on the length despite this explanation, then let me say I am going to push this into ranked section, then start working on something longer, maybe much longer stuff such as DragonForce! Also, thanks Surono and Asherz007 for encouraging me on this and helping since the submit date of the map!


Thanks Mr. Dell
Last edited by zigizigiefe , edited 24 times in total.
Surono
7,195 posts
Joined November 2013
Surono
kds
02:56 *zigizigiefe is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1253435 toby fox - Bergentrueckung [Normal]]
03:06 Surono: fire trucking
03:07 *Surono is playing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1253435 toby fox - Bergentrueckung [Normal]] <osu!mania> |4K|
03:07 zigizigiefe: LKHJHGFDG LJKFSDLJFHSDJLSDFHFLASDJH
03:07 zigizigiefe: SLDKJFHGSDFKHJGADFSJLHKGASFHKASDLHJGASDSD
03:09 Surono: good map
03:09 zigizigiefe: what do you think about patturns
03:09 zigizigiefe: patturn dem
03:09 Surono: here
03:09 Surono: editor, its good :3
03:10 zigizigiefe: do i need hard diff?
03:10 Surono: how to map hard diff
03:10 Surono: if normal was like this LOL
03:12 zigizigiefe: uh
03:12 zigizigiefe: thats a no
03:12 zigizigiefe: okwokwowkwo
03:12 Surono: wai
03:12 Surono: t
03:13 Surono: 00:05:074 - ye 2
03:14 Surono: 00:04:277 - u did 3 1, so there 4 2
03:14 Surono: 00:05:339 - then col 2 to 4. 
03:14 zigizigiefe: wait
03:14 Surono: 00:05:339 - u can stack with 00:05:605 - this if its really same sounds.
03:14 Surono: but that range of sounds are differ.
03:15 zigizigiefe: 00:05:074 (5074|1) - if i place on 2,there will be 3 notes
03:15 zigizigiefe: it would be madnuts
03:15 Surono: i mean move
03:15 Surono: dem saem lol
03:15 zigizigiefe: i know
03:15 zigizigiefe: sfdgşjksdhbfljdah
03:15 Surono: 3
03:15 Surono: thanks mr explain
03:16 zigizigiefe: demm i
03:16 zigizigiefe: dem*
03:16 *Surono -_- intensifies
03:16 zigizigiefe: 00:05:074 - what was ur suggestion for here?tell me again
03:16 zigizigiefe: *frisk intensifies*
03:16 Surono: 00:05:339 - done move this?
03:16 Surono: wtf, do u even read my move move wtf shit?
03:16 Surono: :V
03:16 zigizigiefe: we came to august 2016
03:16 Surono: o n
03:16 zigizigiefe: *when i'm learning taco mapping*
03:16 Surono: n
03:16 Surono: nnnnnn
03:17 zigizigiefe: 00:05:339 - should i move it to where?
03:17 Surono: 444444444444444
03:17 zigizigiefe: and which note
03:17 zigizigiefe: LOL
03:17 Surono: which ur heart
03:17 Surono: my english is da best
03:17 Surono: I know what can understand in this world wait
03:17 zigizigiefe: your english is gud
03:17 zigizigiefe: dem
03:18 Surono: http://puu.sh/v2Bu4/bd8a525c14.jpg
03:18 Surono: hope your face like.. *o*
03:19 zigizigiefe: 00:05:074 (5074|2) - should i move it to 1
03:19 zigizigiefe: 00:05:339 (5339|1) - and this to 3? lel
03:19 zigizigiefe: lelel
03:19 Surono: 00:05:605 (5605|0,5870|1) - oke.....
03:19 Surono: just ctrl g these
03:20 Surono: eh wait..
03:20 zigizigiefe: seems legit
03:20 Surono: yeh right..
03:20 Surono: 00:11:711 - rip col 3 have big gap
03:21 Surono: move 3......
03:21 Surono: 00:17:021 - wut son.
03:21 zigizigiefe: done
03:21 Surono: 00:17:021 - col 1 then 00:17:286 - col 2 ye.
03:22 zigizigiefe: seems legit
03:22 zigizigiefe: done
03:22 Surono: 00:18:083 - a
03:22 zigizigiefe: sfdlöfnsdljf
03:22 Surono: madnuts
03:23 Surono: 00:22:065 - this madnuts.. 1 maybe
03:23 zigizigiefe: 00:18:083 (18083|2) - col 1?
03:23 zigizigiefe: ye
03:23 zigizigiefe: seems legit #69
03:23 zigizigiefe: done #69
03:24 Surono: yeh 1 then ..00:19:145 -  2 1 ln and notes
03:24 Surono: 00:19:676 (19676|2,19941|3) - so SIMETRIHhhh
03:24 zigizigiefe: 00:19:145 (19145|1,19410|2) - like that?
03:24 zigizigiefe: 00:19:676 (19676|3) - moved to 3
03:24 zigizigiefe: 00:19:941 (19941|1) - moved to 1
03:24 zigizigiefe: lelel
03:25 Surono: u makes me confussssssss
03:25 Surono: TAHIS SONG MADNUTS
03:25 Surono: REPEATING AND IDK HOOWWWWWWWWwwwwwwwwwwwww
03:25 Surono: asfdfasdfasdfasfdsdfafadsfadfsad
03:25 Surono: kirrr meeeeeh
03:25 zigizigiefe: 00:19:145 (19145|1,19410|2) - moved to 1,then 2
03:25 Surono: loooooooool
03:25 zigizigiefe: okwowkowkwo
03:25 Surono: pls
03:25 zigizigiefe: madness
03:25 Surono: 00:29:233 - add ln in 3
03:26 zigizigiefe: no more madness raiden,more like "madness decade"
03:26 Surono: or n
03:26 Surono: LOOOOOL
03:26 zigizigiefe: uh,i was planning that but i thought it makes harder :v
03:26 Surono: :"V idk u makes normal..
03:26 zigizigiefe: 00:29:233 (29233|2) - did you say 3?
03:26 zigizigiefe: more like "2" lelel
03:26 Surono: NO
03:27 Surono: >V
03:27 zigizigiefe: 0|1|2|3 ?
03:27 Surono: no
03:27 Surono: 1234
03:27 Surono: 0123 wut da hell.. with logic.. not editor
03:27 Surono: ~_~
03:27 Surono: u wanna play confuss???????
03:27 zigizigiefe: uh
03:27 zigizigiefe: oki doki
03:27 Surono: dont play my heart bebiiii
03:27 zigizigiefe: added ln at 3
03:27 Surono: ~_~
03:27 zigizigiefe: im playing your heart because i LOVE you
03:27 zigizigiefe: and its underdem song,so ye..heary
03:28 zigizigiefe: heart*
03:28 Surono: sagdahdkjdw MADNUTS??????
03:28 Surono: lets see, delete ur mp3
03:28 Surono: ctrl A map then delete
03:28 zigizigiefe: uh no
03:28 zigizigiefe: why
03:28 Surono: dont forget ctrl c before delte
03:28 Surono: then change
03:28 zigizigiefe: why
03:28 Surono: mp3 to
03:28 Surono: zigirit
03:28 Surono: will go RNAK
03:29 Surono: `_K`
http://puu.sh/v2E6h/c534ef73f1.zip diff
depends, u can rename ur diff as Easy then my diff to Normal or idk.. dem ( yeah depends.. just in case like my kinkyoats ~_~ )
Asherz007
Beatmap Nominator
687 posts
Joined September 2016
Asherz007
From #modreqs (and in return for a little favour for me) :)

Beatmap is shorter than 45 sec make longer pls :P

General
HP and OD on the diffs I feel are slightly too low. Normal to 7 and Determination to 8?
Find some more tags. There must be some out there. There has to be.
...that's about it for this bit really. Normally I'd have something else to say but the map is super short. :P

0|1|2|3

First, a tip outside of the box. (geddit?) Mania maps normally contain much fewer long notes as a ratio to normal notes compared to standard (though still much higher than taiko). Keep that in mind on the first diff.

Normal
  1. 00:00:030 (30|1) - I know you're trying to map to the sound, but these kinds of long notes are a little awkward to play, even for me, and thus I believe it would be better just to replace this with a standard note. And for all future occasions in this diff where there are 1/4 LNs, this also applies.
  2. 00:07:463 (7463|1,7463|0) - Hitsounding both of these with the whistle hitsound is too powerful. Remove HS from one of them.
  3. 00:15:959 (15959|2,15959|1) - ^
  4. 00:17:021 (17021|1) - Move to col 0 or 3 (minijack a little awkward for this diff)
  5. 00:24:454 (24454|1,24454|0) - HS issue
  6. 00:29:233 (29233|2) - Move to col 0/1 (reduces diff on the one hand). Maybe remove HS as well?
  7. 00:29:764 (29764|1,30030|0) - Ctrl + H?
  8. 00:32:021 (32021|3,32087|2,32153|1,32286|2,32353|1,32419|0) - Too much of a difficulty jump I reckon. I know what you're trying to do, but I don't think 00:32:286 (32286|2,32353|1) need to exist (the tune is slightly quieter here.)
  9. 00:32:950 (32950|1,32950|2) - HS issue

Sur's Determination
Don't forget to hitsound this diff.
  1. 00:00:030 (30|1) - As with Normal, only now it's more awkward with the introduced double where only one is an LN. Same solution as with Normal too, unsurprisingly.
  2. 00:00:295 (295|0,826|1) - Move both to col 2? (I see the reasoning behind this, but you may want to change more for ease of playing than anything else.) (Not the only time this happens, obviously)
  3. 00:02:419 (2419|2,2684|0) - Swap columns? (linked to above)
  4. 00:05:339 (5339|2) - Make normal note? (There's only one held tune note here)
  5. 00:05:605 (5605|0,5605|1,5870|0,6136|1,6136|0) - Should all be singles imo (No change in emphasis between these)
  6. 00:06:667 (6667|1,6667|2) - Single?
  7. 00:07:198 (7198|0,7198|3) - ^
  8. 00:13:835 (13835|1,13835|0,14100|3,14100|2,14366|3,14631|3,14631|2) - Some lovely mirroring going on here. Nothing wrong with that though, of course. (See 00:05:339 and one below for comments)
  9. 00:22:330 (22330|3,22330|2,22596|1,22596|0,22861|0,23127|1,23127|0) - ^
  10. 00:27:640 (27640|0,27640|2,27906|1,28171|1,28171|3,28437|2) - Why the sudden change? Inconsistent with previous mapping.
  11. 00:28:702 (28702|2) - Finish at 00:29:764? More for ease of playing than anything else.
  12. 00:29:764 (29764|3,29764|0,30030|2,30030|3,30295|0,30295|1,30560|1,30560|2) - Make all normal rather than some LNs?
  13. 00:32:286 (32286|3,32353|2) - As with the normal diff, the suggestion is to remove these.
  14. 00:32:419 (32419|0,32419|1,32684|2,32684|3) - Ctrl + H?

Hope this helps and best of luck! :)
zigizigiefe
952 posts
Joined March 2013
Topic Starter
zigizigiefe

Asherz007 wrote:

From #modreqs (and in return for a little favour for me) :)

Beatmap is shorter than 45 sec make longer pls :P xD

General
HP and OD on the diffs I feel are slightly too low. Normal to 7 it makes sense and Determination to 8?
Find some more tags. There must be some out there. There has to be. Tags soon ™
...that's about it for this bit really. Normally I'd have something else to say but the map is super short. :P

0|1|2|3

First, a tip outside of the box. (geddit?) Mania maps normally contain much fewer long notes as a ratio to normal notes compared to standard (though still much higher than taiko). Keep that in mind on the first diff.

Normal
  1. 00:00:030 (30|1) - I know you're trying to map to the sound, but these kinds of long notes are a little awkward to play, even for me, and thus I believe it would be better just to replace this with a standard note. And for all future occasions in this diff where there are 1/4 LNs, this also applies. changed all 1/4 LNs to 1/2 LN.you're right,it makes harder.
  2. 00:07:463 (7463|1,7463|0) - Hitsounding both of these with the whistle hitsound is too powerful. Remove HS from one of them. it's not a problem imo
  3. 00:15:959 (15959|2,15959|1) - ^ ^
  4. 00:17:021 (17021|1) - Move to col 0 or 3 (minijack a little awkward for this diff) Moved to col 0
  5. 00:24:454 (24454|1,24454|0) - HS issue not an issue imo xd
  6. 00:29:233 (29233|2) - Move to col 0/1 (reduces diff on the one hand). Maybe remove HS as well?Moved to col 0,but whistle hitsound gives that feel,so keep
  7. 00:29:764 (29764|1,30030|0) - Ctrl + H? not really but I totally changed that pattern
  8. 00:32:021 (32021|3,32087|2,32153|1,32286|2,32353|1,32419|0) - Too much of a difficulty jump I reckon. I know what you're trying to do, but I don't think 00:32:286 (32286|2,32353|1) need to exist (the tune is slightly quieter here.) it makes sense,changed
  9. 00:32:950 (32950|1,32950|2) - HS issue not really :3

Hope this helps and best of luck! :)
Thanks for your modding :)
Surono
7,195 posts
Joined November 2013
Surono
Efe, Easy pls when ~_~

Asherz007 wrote:

From #modreqs (and in return for a little favour for me) :)

Beatmap is shorter than 45 sec make longer pls :P

[General]HP and OD on the diffs I feel are slightly too low. Normal to 7 and Determination to 8? ok
Find some more tags. There must be some out there. There has to be.
...that's about it for this bit really. Normally I'd have something else to say but the map is super short. :P

0|1|2|3

First, a tip outside of the box. (geddit?) Mania maps normally contain much fewer long notes as a ratio to normal notes compared to standard (though still much higher than taiko). Keep that in mind on the first diff.

[Sur's Determination]Don't forget to hitsound this diff. yes
  1. 00:00:030 (30|1) - As with Normal, only now it's more awkward with the introduced double where only one is an LN. Same solution as with Normal too, unsurprisingly. its fine, is not Normal level
  2. 00:00:295 (295|0,826|1) - Move both to col 2? (I see the reasoning behind this, but you may want to change more for ease of playing than anything else.) (Not the only time this happens, obviously) 00:00:030 (30|0,295|0,560|1,826|1) - these reason
  3. 00:02:419 (2419|2,2684|0) - Swap columns? (linked to above) reason same above
  4. 00:05:339 (5339|2) - Make normal note? (There's only one held tune note here) yes
  5. 00:05:605 (5605|0,5605|1,5870|0,6136|1,6136|0) - Should all be singles imo (No change in emphasis between these) keep..
  6. 00:06:667 (6667|1,6667|2) - Single?
  7. 00:07:198 (7198|0,7198|3) - ^ keep for both
  8. 00:13:835 (13835|1,13835|0,14100|3,14100|2,14366|3,14631|3,14631|2) - Some lovely mirroring going on here. Nothing wrong with that though, of course. (See 00:05:339 and one below for comments)
  9. 00:22:330 (22330|3,22330|2,22596|1,22596|0,22861|0,23127|1,23127|0) - ^
  10. 00:27:640 (27640|0,27640|2,27906|1,28171|1,28171|3,28437|2) - Why the sudden change? Inconsistent with previous mapping. because the sounds are started different, right?
  11. 00:28:702 (28702|2) - Finish at 00:29:764? More for ease of playing than anything else. finish hitsounds? ehh no..
  12. 00:29:764 (29764|3,29764|0,30030|2,30030|3,30295|0,30295|1,30560|1,30560|2) - Make all normal rather than some LNs? nope...
  13. 00:32:286 (32286|3,32353|2) - As with the normal diff, the suggestion is to remove these. is not normal....
  14. 00:32:419 (32419|0,32419|1,32684|2,32684|3) - Ctrl + H? keep,,
Hope this helps and best of luck! :) thank you
Update + Hitsounded
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Tornado
409 posts
Joined May 2014
Tornado
zigizigiefe is pezevenk
- Ly0572 -
1,135 posts
Joined August 2014
- Ly0572 -
marked

erm~ honestly nothing to point out cuz its just all repeated notes
but heres some u might want to change
|1|2|3|4|

general~ add kia c:

easy
00:00:030 (30|1,295|2,560|3,826|1) - how about rearrange this part to something like 00:02:153 (2153|0,2419|1,2684|2,2950|3) - but opposite pattern this time
00:05:206 (5206|2) - Ln should start here 00:05:339 - imo then just add note here 00:05:206 -
00:08:525 - from here~ right side is kinda heavy maybe rearrange it and apply some to the left side
00:30:560 (30560|3,30826|2,31622|1) - ctrl+h~ better flow

normal
00:23:658 (23658|0,23923|3,23923|1) - ctrl+h better flow
zigizigiefe
952 posts
Joined March 2013
Topic Starter
zigizigiefe

- Ly0572 - wrote:

marked

erm~ honestly nothing to point out cuz its just all repeated notes
but heres some u might want to change
|1|2|3|4|

general~ add kia c: where c:

easy
00:00:030 (30|1,295|2,560|3,826|1) - how about rearrange this part to something like 00:02:153 (2153|0,2419|1,2684|2,2950|3) - but opposite pattern this time maybe
00:05:206 (5206|2) - Ln should start here 00:05:339 - imo whoops,my bad then just add note here 00:05:206 - its not necessary lelel there is no sound
00:08:525 - from here~ right side is kinda heavy maybe rearrange it and apply some to the left side done
00:30:560 (30560|3,30826|2,31622|1) - ctrl+h~ better flow its better
Thanks for your mod \o/
Surono
7,195 posts
Joined November 2013
Surono
00:23:658 (23658|0,23923|3,23923|1) - please ctrl+h these, efe

thanks, Ly0

zigizigiefe wrote:

- Ly0572 - wrote:

general~ add kia c: where c: in my heart
Crumpey
563 posts
Joined October 2013
Crumpey
As Requested in Crumpey's mod Queue

General, Easy, Sur's Normal
cols = 1|2|3|4

General

This is unrankable, you need at least 3 diffs, the majority being created by you.

Easy(Mod)

00:05:339 (5339|3,5339|2) - use a single note
00:07:463 (7463|1,7463|0) - use one ln
00:13:835 (13835|3,13835|0) - use one note
00:15:959 (15959|0,15959|1) - use one ln
00:22:330 (22330|3,22330|0) - one note here
00:24:454 (24454|0,24454|1) - use one ln
00:32:021 (32021|3,32153|0,32286|3) - this here isnt mapped to the music, also it being easy you can afford to remove this note 00:32:153 (32153|0) -

Sur's Normal(mod)

shielding like this id generally avoid, especially in a low starred song 00:00:030 (30|0,295|0,560|1,826|1) -
00:05:605 (5605|1,5605|0,5870|1,5870|2,6136|2,6136|0) - make these single notes
00:14:100 (14100|2,14100|3,14366|2,14366|1,14631|3,14631|1) - make single notes
00:22:596 (22596|0,22596|1,22861|2,22861|0,23127|1,23127|2) - make these single notes
00:28:702 (28702|2,28702|0,29233|1) - id consider this pretty hard for a low star song, id just stick to


That being said, good luck in getting this ranked bud ^u^
zigizigiefe
952 posts
Joined March 2013
Topic Starter
zigizigiefe

CrumpetFiddler wrote:

As Requested in Crumpey's mod Queue

[box=General, Easy, Sur's Normal]cols = 1|2|3|4

General

This is unrankable, you need at least 3 diffs, the majority being created by you. Look at this map,it contains 2 diff..
Easy(Mod)

00:05:339 (5339|3,5339|2) - use a single note why? there are two sounds
00:07:463 (7463|1,7463|0) - use one ln the sound is stronger than others but it makes harder,applied
00:13:835 (13835|3,13835|0) - use one note the sound is as strong as i can't ignore,keep
00:15:959 (15959|0,15959|1) - use one ln same reason,applied
00:22:330 (22330|3,22330|0) - one note here same reason,keep
00:24:454 (24454|0,24454|1) - use one ln same reason,applied #2
00:32:021 (32021|3,32153|0,32286|3) - this here isnt mapped to the music, also it being easy you can afford to remove this note 00:32:153 (32153|0) - this part is more intense than other parts,i needed to make here harder.keep



That being said, good luck in getting this ranked bud ^u^
Thanks a lot for modding ^^
Surono
7,195 posts
Joined November 2013
Surono

CrumpetFiddler wrote:

As Requested in Crumpey's mod Queue

[General, Easy, Sur's Normal]cols = 1|2|3|4

General

This is unrankable, you need at least 3 diffs, the majority being created by you. but many own mappers are created just 1 diff and other GDs

That being said, good luck in getting this ranked bud ^u^
thx for mod, I did something for shielding notes and 2jack are fine for emphasize other sounds. the LN at last I keep it, since its slow bpm and short map.

update
osu file format v14

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Tags:Surono Asgore boss battle spare mercy determination
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Moku_Hazushi
76 posts
Joined August 2015
Moku_Hazushi
(From modding queue)
Well i enjoyed modding this, really clean difficulties but not boring even for easy and normal maps. So yeah I hope this mod will help getting one step further to the rank ahah :3

Legend is 0|1|2|3

Global


Nothing much to say in fact but there is no kiai in this map and maybe i think you can put one from 00:25:516 to 00:34:012.

Easy


00:02:684 (2684|2,2950|3) - Put the LN (2) at (3) and (3) at (2), just before at 00:00:030 and 00:00:560 the pattern went left-right right-left so i think its a good idea to keep the same mood

00:05:339 (5339|2) - Would add a finish here because with transit from a LN mapping fashion to something a bit more nervous and i think it goes well with the music too

Ok from here i would like to change several note placement, maybe its too much but please consider this :
00:05:870 (5870|1) - At 2
00:06:136 (6136|3) - At 1 Why? Because with 00:05:605 (5605|3) it becomes a stair pattern that i think go bettern with the melody phrase

00:06:401 (6401|1) - At 0
00:06:667 (6667|0) - At 2 Finish the stair pattern and go for a LN + 1 row spacing like 00:04:277 but symetrical

00:06:932 (6932|3) - At 1
00:07:198 (7198|1) - At 3 To keep with the same idea as 00:04:277 but symetrical

00:13:835 (13835|3) - Finish here for the same reason as 00:06:667 (6667|0)

00:14:897 (14897|1) - At 0
00:15:162 (15162|0) - At 1 I think you have a tendency to often start with a right to left pattern so this is a good place for a left to right one

00:22:330 (22330|3) - Same finish

00:25:516 (25516|2,25782|1) - CTRL+H this, for the same reason as 00:15:162 (15162|0)

00:29:764 (29764|2,30030|1,30295|2,30560|0) - Just a personal impression I wont make them LN before just after that you have the pinnacle of the map going with simple note faster that usual and I think having simple not here introduce a bit more this part. But its alright like this, do as you wish

00:32:950 (32950|1) - Finish

Good map overall, the hitsounds is well done and the pattern are interesting. It just need some adjustment to make the pattern less repetitive and it will be ready to rank i think :)

Sur's Normal


00:05:339 (5339|3) - Would add a finish here

00:06:667 (6667|2) - I think you should keep with the same gimmick and move it to 1
Then to adjust the following here is what i propose:
00:06:932 (6932|2) - At 0
00:06:932 (6932|1) - At 2
00:07:198 (7198|0) - At 2

00:13:835 (13835|0) - Finish here, and I would change this part as the following to avoid unnecessary jacks :



00:17:286 (17286|0,17817|3) - I think you should keep with the jack pattern here, but since you left it smoothly at 00:14:897 I guess its alright like this

00:22:330 (22330|3) - Finish

00:31:357 (31357|2,31622|3) - I would make those 2 as single note to introduce the fast following part

00:32:950 (32950|1) - Last finish

Really pleasant difficulty, I like the recuring pattern you found and the double whistle hitsounding was a good idea too. Good job owo)b
zigizigiefe
952 posts
Joined March 2013
Topic Starter
zigizigiefe

Moku_Hazushi wrote:

(From modding queue)
Well i enjoyed modding this, really clean difficulties but not boring even for easy and normal maps. So yeah I hope this mod will help getting one step further to the rank ahah :3

Legend is 0|1|2|3

Global


Nothing much to say in fact but there is no kiai in this map and maybe i think you can put one from 00:25:516 to 00:34:012.

Easy


00:02:684 (2684|2,2950|3) - Put the LN (2) at (3) and (3) at (2), just before at 00:00:030 and 00:00:560 the pattern went left-right right-left so i think its a good idea to keep the same mood applied,good idea ^^

00:05:339 (5339|2) - Would add a finish here because with transit from a LN mapping fashion to something a bit more nervous and i think it goes well with the music too song is pretty calm,so finishers would be bad imo

Ok from here i would like to change several note placement, maybe its too much but please consider this :
00:05:870 (5870|1) - At 2 sounds good
00:06:136 (6136|3) - At 1 Why? Because with 00:05:605 (5605|3) it becomes a stair pattern that i think go bettern with the melody phrase applied

00:06:401 (6401|1) - At 0 ^
00:06:667 (6667|0) - At 2 Finish the stair pattern and go for a LN + 1 row spacing like 00:04:277 but symetrical ^

00:06:932 (6932|3) - At 1 ^
00:07:198 (7198|1) - At 3 To keep with the same idea as 00:04:277 but symetrical ^

00:13:835 (13835|3) - Finish here for the same reason as 00:06:667 (6667|0) keep due to same reason

00:14:897 (14897|1) - At 0 keep for variety
00:15:162 (15162|0) - At 1 I think you have a tendency to often start with a right to left pattern so this is a good place for a left to right one ^

00:22:330 (22330|3) - Same finish same reason

00:25:516 (25516|2,25782|1) - CTRL+H this, for the same reason as 00:15:162 (15162|0) applied

00:29:764 (29764|2,30030|1,30295|2,30560|0) - Just a personal impression I wont make them LN before just after that you have the pinnacle of the map going with simple note faster that usual and I think having simple not here introduce a bit more this part. But its alright like this, do as you wish hold sounds everywhere

00:32:950 (32950|1) - Finish same reason

Good map overall, the hitsounds is well done and the pattern are interesting. It just need some adjustment to make the pattern less repetitive and it will be ready to rank i think :)
Thanks for modding \o/ BTW Surono,I just realized offset was wrong.But now its fixed lel
Dellvangel
1,269 posts
Joined November 2014
Dellvangel
SPOILER
17:28 zigizigiefe: Hey o/
17:29 Dellvangel: hey o/
17:30 zigizigiefe: I am new at mania mapping and made a mania map.It is too short,if you have time can you test it and tell me your opinions about this? c:
17:31 Dellvangel: lmao, and i thought someone call me for taiko stuff since i also try to learn taiko now
17:31 zigizigiefe: I am also taiko mapper LOL
17:32 zigizigiefe: but I need testplay for my mania map,I'm learning mania mapping
17:32 *zigizigiefe is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1253435 toby fox - Bergentrueckung]
17:32 Dellvangel: eh, i cant play mania now, not play in my pc now
17:33 Dellvangel: but lemme see the map through editor
17:33 zigizigiefe: Since the song is too repetitive,I tried to make variety
17:33 Dellvangel: taiko is hard, i suck at speading the pattern from one diff to other diffs
17:33 zigizigiefe: I hope it isn't bad
17:34 Dellvangel: easy diff?
17:34 zigizigiefe: Yes
17:34 *Dellvangel is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1253435 toby fox - Bergentrueckung [Easy]]
17:34 zigizigiefe: Surono made Normal diff and it is pretty good :D
17:35 zigizigiefe: Lemme give some tips about Taiko mapping
17:35 zigizigiefe: Listen to the song with 50% playback and choose a flow which one gives that feel
17:35 Dellvangel: lol, im not sure what to say, the song is too repetitive
17:36 zigizigiefe: :/
17:37 Dellvangel: check aimod, preview time pls
17:38 zigizigiefe: LOL I am totally aware of that,I waited for Surono to fix it but now I'm gonna fix
17:39 Dellvangel: the map doesnt have any problems in general i guess, blame the song for being too repetitive lol
17:40 zigizigiefe: :D
17:40 Dellvangel: 00:00:816 (816|1) - move this to col 1 for hand balance
17:40 zigizigiefe: 0123 or 1234?
17:40 Dellvangel: 1234
17:40 zigizigiefe: its better,fixed
17:40 Dellvangel: lol, i thought you already used with mania format
17:41 zigizigiefe: :D
17:41 zigizigiefe: I just followed pitch of the sounds
17:42 Dellvangel: 00:07:453 (7453|0) - this LN end different with 00:15:949 (15949|0) - ?
17:43 zigizigiefe: Oops my bad
17:43 Dellvangel: 00:28:692 (28692|3,29223|1) - actually end at 00:29:754 -
17:43 Dellvangel: 00:29:223 (29223|1) - to col 1 looks better for hand balance
17:43 Dellvangel: move i mean
17:44 zigizigiefe: Fixed everything
17:44 zigizigiefe: Sounds good
17:46 Dellvangel: lmao, thats all for me i guess, but the song is too uhh, not sure if this kind of pattern is fine for rank though it follows the music properly
17:46 zigizigiefe: yes,i agree
17:46 zigizigiefe: "too uhh"
17:47 Dellvangel: in mania better to pick songs that have many instrument, so you can variate the pattern easily
17:47 zigizigiefe: Yes,it's hard for this song
17:49 Dellvangel: thats why sdvx songs are popular af in mania
17:50 zigizigiefe: I thought short song is good choice for first map but I'll make SDVX map,too
17:51 Dellvangel: imo, you current song just make you harder to learn mania, rip repetitive song
17:52 zigizigiefe: rip
17:54 Dellvangel: ;w;
17:55 zigizigiefe: when i map this,i wasn't even sure about it is rankable
17:55 Dellvangel: it is rankable if you REALLY can find BNs that willing to rank repetitive pattern lol
17:56 Dellvangel: since the pattern totally is rankable
17:57 zigizigiefe: do you think my patterns are good o:
17:58 Dellvangel: for this kind of song i would say yea, but since the song is repetitive makes your pattern repetitive too
17:58 zigizigiefe: rip variety
17:58 zigizigiefe: ;w;
17:58 Dellvangel: yea, rip ;w;
Good luck!
zigizigiefe
952 posts
Joined March 2013
Topic Starter
zigizigiefe

Dellvangel wrote:

SPOILER
17:28 zigizigiefe: Hey o/
17:29 Dellvangel: hey o/
17:30 zigizigiefe: I am new at mania mapping and made a mania map.It is too short,if you have time can you test it and tell me your opinions about this? c:
17:31 Dellvangel: lmao, and i thought someone call me for taiko stuff since i also try to learn taiko now
17:31 zigizigiefe: I am also taiko mapper LOL
17:32 zigizigiefe: but I need testplay for my mania map,I'm learning mania mapping
17:32 *zigizigiefe is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1253435 toby fox - Bergentrueckung]
17:32 Dellvangel: eh, i cant play mania now, not play in my pc now
17:33 Dellvangel: but lemme see the map through editor
17:33 zigizigiefe: Since the song is too repetitive,I tried to make variety
17:33 Dellvangel: taiko is hard, i suck at speading the pattern from one diff to other diffs
17:33 zigizigiefe: I hope it isn't bad
17:34 Dellvangel: easy diff?
17:34 zigizigiefe: Yes
17:34 *Dellvangel is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1253435 toby fox - Bergentrueckung [Easy]]
17:34 zigizigiefe: Surono made Normal diff and it is pretty good :D
17:35 zigizigiefe: Lemme give some tips about Taiko mapping
17:35 zigizigiefe: Listen to the song with 50% playback and choose a flow which one gives that feel
17:35 Dellvangel: lol, im not sure what to say, the song is too repetitive
17:36 zigizigiefe: :/
17:37 Dellvangel: check aimod, preview time pls
17:38 zigizigiefe: LOL I am totally aware of that,I waited for Surono to fix it but now I'm gonna fix
17:39 Dellvangel: the map doesnt have any problems in general i guess, blame the song for being too repetitive lol
17:40 zigizigiefe: :D
17:40 Dellvangel: 00:00:816 (816|1) - move this to col 1 for hand balance
17:40 zigizigiefe: 0123 or 1234?
17:40 Dellvangel: 1234
17:40 zigizigiefe: its better,fixed
17:40 Dellvangel: lol, i thought you already used with mania format
17:41 zigizigiefe: :D
17:41 zigizigiefe: I just followed pitch of the sounds
17:42 Dellvangel: 00:07:453 (7453|0) - this LN end different with 00:15:949 (15949|0) - ?
17:43 zigizigiefe: Oops my bad
17:43 Dellvangel: 00:28:692 (28692|3,29223|1) - actually end at 00:29:754 -
17:43 Dellvangel: 00:29:223 (29223|1) - to col 1 looks better for hand balance
17:43 Dellvangel: move i mean
17:44 zigizigiefe: Fixed everything
17:44 zigizigiefe: Sounds good
17:46 Dellvangel: lmao, thats all for me i guess, but the song is too uhh, not sure if this kind of pattern is fine for rank though it follows the music properly
17:46 zigizigiefe: yes,i agree
17:46 zigizigiefe: "too uhh"
17:47 Dellvangel: in mania better to pick songs that have many instrument, so you can variate the pattern easily
17:47 zigizigiefe: Yes,it's hard for this song
17:49 Dellvangel: thats why sdvx songs are popular af in mania
17:50 zigizigiefe: I thought short song is good choice for first map but I'll make SDVX map,too
17:51 Dellvangel: imo, you current song just make you harder to learn mania, rip repetitive song
17:52 zigizigiefe: rip
17:54 Dellvangel: ;w;
17:55 zigizigiefe: when i map this,i wasn't even sure about it is rankable
17:55 Dellvangel: it is rankable if you REALLY can find BNs that willing to rank repetitive pattern lol
17:56 Dellvangel: since the pattern totally is rankable
17:57 zigizigiefe: do you think my patterns are good o:
17:58 Dellvangel: for this kind of song i would say yea, but since the song is repetitive makes your pattern repetitive too
17:58 zigizigiefe: rip variety
17:58 zigizigiefe: ;w;
17:58 Dellvangel: yea, rip ;w;
Good luck!
Surono
7,195 posts
Joined November 2013
Surono
[quote="Moku_Hazushi"](From modding queue)
Well i enjoyed modding this, really clean difficulties but not boring even for easy and normal maps. So yeah I hope this mod will help getting one step further to the rank ahah :3 Amen ^3^

Legend is 0|1|2|3

Global


Nothing much to say in fact but there is no kiai in this map and maybe i think you can put one from 00:25:516 to 00:34:012.



00:05:339 (5339|3) - Would add a finish here ..........

00:06:667 (6667|2) - I think you should keep with the same gimmick and move it to 1 00:06:401 (6401|2,6401|1,6667|3,6667|2,6932|2,6932|1) - these,.
Then to adjust the following here is what i propose:
00:06:932 (6932|2) - At 0
00:06:932 (6932|1) - At 2
00:07:198 (7198|0) - At 2 would break consistency

00:13:835 (13835|0) - Finish here, and I would change this part as the following to avoid unnecessary jacks : ..... finish?

seems good and did something

00:17:286 (17286|0,17817|3) - I think you should keep with the jack pattern here, but since you left it smoothly at 00:14:897 I guess its alright like this jack.........? o_o

00:22:330 (22330|3) - Finish ehmm no..

00:31:357 (31357|2,31622|3) - I would make those 2 as single note to introduce the fast following part I think its fine, just in last duration.

00:32:950 (32950|1) - Last finish ,.

Really pleasant difficulty, I like the recuring pattern you found and the double whistle hitsounding was a good idea too yeah instead of finish, bcus finish are too over if used. Good job owo)b[/color]
thanks!

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