LAST ALLIANCE - HEKIREKI TV SIZE · forum

pkhg

Joined May 2010

Topic Starter

pkhg 2017-03-27T04:17:02+00:00

This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on domingo, 04 de febrero de 2018 at 16:46:03

Artist: LAST ALLIANCE
Title: HEKIREKI TV SIZE
Source: はじめの一歩 New Challenger
Tags: hajime no ippo opening iyiyo hazu- happyrocket88 cris- ラスト・アライアンス
BPM: 258
Filesize: 18603kb
Play Time: 01:09
Difficulties Available:

CRIS' NORMAL (2,12 stars, 128 notes)
HARD (3,25 stars, 201 notes)
IYIYO & HAZU'S INSANE (4,6 stars, 312 notes)
K.O. (5,41 stars, 317 notes)
ROCKET'S EASY (1,33 stars, 69 notes)

Download: LAST ALLIANCE - HEKIREKI TV SIZE
Download: LAST ALLIANCE - HEKIREKI TV SIZE (no video)
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Last edited by pkhg 2024-02-10T06:47:21+00:00, edited 10 times in total.

Mitsuna-

286 posts

Joined January 2014

Mitsuna- 2018-01-13T01:43:50+00:00

[Rocket's Easy]
00:10:552 (3) - this reverse slider fits well with the music, i mean you put another one here 00:14:273 (3) - because both start with the guitar, so we expect the same here 00:17:994 - and here 00:21:715 - , it's not good to make the guitar sound at the end of sliders like this 00:19:854 (1) -
00:29:156 (5) - fix blanket (if not on purpose of course ^^)
00:32:877 (3) - same
00:45:901 (1,2,3,4,1) - you mapped this part with the vocals but not this 00:49:389 (2,3) - and that feels a bit weird

[Cris' Normal]
00:14:273 - it would be better to map this with a slider like here 00:10:552 (1) - , here 00:17:994 (1) - , and here 00:21:715 (1) - to make the difficulty more regular for a normal diff ^^

[Collab Insane]
00:25:436 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - you could try to make those sliders slightly overlap each other instead of being stacked to create more visual effect, the actual placement is a bit monotonous to me (even if it fits really well with the sound it reflect)
00:59:854 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - those circles have same spacing all along the "stream", try to make a slow stream that start to accelerate here 01:00:086 (3) - as the drum intensifies ^^

[Extra]
i watched it atleast 20 times (for real) and i don't see anything bad, not much experience in high bpm but everything seems fine to me here

Great mapset overall, i like the song

I'll come back to mod the hard diff !

Cris-

Beatmap Nominator

552 posts

Joined March 2015

Cris- 2018-01-13T03:48:31+00:00

Mitsuna- wrote:
[Cris' Normal]
00:14:273 - it would be better to map this with a slider like here 00:10:552 (1) - , here 00:17:994 (1) - , and here 00:21:715 (1) - to make the difficulty more regular for a normal diff ^^ Ok, fixed

Thanks!

xd

osu file format v14

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AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 8168
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.6
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 1

[Editor]
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DistanceSpacing: 1.3
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 4
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[Metadata]
Title:HEKIREKI
TitleUnicode:HEKIREKI
Artist:LAST ALLIANCE
ArtistUnicode:ラスト・アライアンス
Creator:pkhg
Version:Cris' Normal
Source:はじめの一歩: New Challenger
Tags:hajime no ippo tv size opening iyiyo hazu- happyrocket88 cris-
BeatmapID:1516815
BeatmapSetID:591331

[Difficulty]
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CircleSize:3
OverallDifficulty:3
ApproachRate:4
SliderMultiplier:0.7
SliderTickRate:1

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iYiyo

1,107 posts

Joined January 2014

iYiyo 2018-01-13T04:02:02+00:00

Mitsuna- wrote:
[Collab Insane]
00:25:436 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - you could try to make those sliders slightly overlap each other instead of being stacked to create more visual effect, the actual placement is a bit monotonous to me (even if it fits really well with the sound it reflect) i could give some variation while curving the slider every 2 of them, but i'd look like all the rest of slider shapes I use so don't really want that
00:59:854 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - those circles have same spacing all along the "stream", try to make a slow stream that start to accelerate here 01:00:086 (3) - as the drum intensifies ^^ would be cool if hazu agrees with this :eyes:

Podrías cambiarle el nombre de la insane a "iYiyo & Hazu's Collab"

Cris-

Beatmap Nominator

552 posts

Joined March 2015

Cris- 2018-01-13T22:11:16+00:00

iYiyo wrote:
Podrías cambiarle el nombre de la insane a "iYiyo & Hazu's Collab"

iYiyazu's 👀

iYiyo

1,107 posts

Joined January 2014

iYiyo 2018-01-13T22:14:25+00:00

Cris- wrote:
iYiyo wrote:
Podrías cambiarle el nombre de la insane a "iYiyo & Hazu's Collab"
iYiyazu's 👀

suena como yiyazo xddd don't like it tbh

Cloudchaser

2,327 posts

Joined May 2012

Cloudchaser 2018-01-14T01:26:56+00:00

yayita is best waifu

HappyRocket88

4,322 posts

Joined May 2014

HappyRocket88 2018-01-16T03:01:13+00:00

Mitsuna- wrote:
[Rocket's Easy]
00:10:552 (3) - this reverse slider fits well with the music, i mean you put another one here 00:14:273 (3) - because both start with the guitar, so we expect the same here 00:17:994 - and here 00:21:715 - , it's not good to make the guitar sound at the end of sliders like this 00:19:854 (1) - Ohh this was done for variation so the whole section doesn't become a monotous patter to follow. :3
00:29:156 (5) - fix blanket (if not on purpose of course ^^) Yeah, not intending a blanket here. >-<
00:32:877 (3) - same Same /w\
00:45:901 (1,2,3,4,1) - you mapped this part with the vocals but not this 00:49:389 (2,3) - and that feels a bit weird Yeah I was forced to make such as pattern but just in case you found a better arrangement poke me :3

pkhg

2,507 posts

Joined May 2010

Topic Starter

pkhg 2018-01-16T05:29:43+00:00

- Unicode Title: HEKIREKI TV SIZE
- Unicode Artist: LAST ALLIANCE
- Source: はじめの一歩 New Challenger
- References:
+ http://www.vap.co.jp/ippo2/goods.html
+ http://www.last-alliance.com/discography/index.html
+ http://www.vap.co.jp/goods/1361936196196

iYiyo

1,107 posts

Joined January 2014

iYiyo 2018-01-16T17:02:25+00:00

La top diff debería ser K.O. (con el punto al final también)

@happy: 00:01:482 - 00:07:529 - siento que el ritmo que sigues acá es un poco muy confuso para gente que recién está empezando. No sé cómo decirlo bien, pero vas como a contratiempo de la batería (tick 1 y 3). Si bien el principio es algo fuerte, siento que quedaría bastante mejor si sigues la melodía de la canción instead of plain drums. Recomendaciones: https://puu.sh/z2Ufw/ccab7da319.jpg https://puu.sh/z2UfQ/3c5eb539fd.jpg incluso podrías hasta borrar el (5) y dejarlo vacío, de todas maneras yo creo que podrías hacer algo mejor aquí en general~

HappyRocket88

4,322 posts

Joined May 2014

HappyRocket88 2018-01-18T17:26:57+00:00

iYiyo wrote:
La top diff debería ser K.O. (con el punto al final también)

@happy: 00:01:482 - 00:07:529 - siento que el ritmo que sigues acá es un poco muy confuso para gente que recién está empezando. No sé cómo decirlo bien, pero vas como a contratiempo de la batería (tick 1 y 3). Si bien el principio es algo fuerte, siento que quedaría bastante mejor si sigues la melodía de la canción instead of plain drums. Recomendaciones: https://puu.sh/z2Ufw/ccab7da319.jpg https://puu.sh/z2UfQ/3c5eb539fd.jpg incluso podrías hasta borrar el (5) y dejarlo vacío, de todas maneras yo creo que podrías hacer algo mejor aquí en general~

Tienes razón. Pero encuentro un poco arriesgado empezar la diff con el beat más importante de la song con un slider-end en el downbeat. ;w; Por otro lado, si tienes razón en el ritmo con el slider a 1/1 para enfatizar la guitarra pero supongo que introducir ese tipo de ritmos en el principio podría resultar contraprudecente ya que en aquellos casos el reverse está muy cerca del número y podrían tener problemas para identificar el timing si no se hace regurlarmente. ;w;

F D Flourite

811 posts

Joined March 2013

F D Flourite 2018-01-28T23:53:51+00:00

I lost my previous mod post ;w;

[ROCKEY'S EASY]

00:29:156 (5,6) - blanket could be improved
00:25:436 (1) - remove NC
00:48:459 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - combo is too long 00:53:343 (1,1) - then it's short. You should review the whole NC design

[CRIS'S NORMAL]

00:14:273 (1,2) - should keep consistency on 00:10:552 (1,2) - as there's no sound at 00:15:203 -

[HARD]

00:03:808 (11) - 00:07:529 (11) - why not shorten the combo lol
00:51:250 (6) - not NCing?

[IYIYO & HAZU'S INSANE]

00:01:715 (3,4) - visual distance is too small
00:25:436 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - 00:29:156 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - 00:32:877 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - completely covering sliderbodies each other is not helping at all under AR9. You should rotate them slightly to avoid perfect overlaps
00:58:226 - A strong beat is skipped

call me back

Last edited by F D Flourite 2018-01-29T01:04:38+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Hazu-

3,881 posts

Joined July 2014

Hazu- 2018-01-29T00:30:04+00:00

Mitsuna- wrote:
[Collab Insane]
00:59:854 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - those circles have same spacing all along the "stream", try to make a slow stream that start to accelerate here 01:00:086 (3) - as the drum intensifies ^^ I agree, but I don't change this for better gap Hard-Insane-Extra.

Great mapset overall, i like the song I'll come back to mod the hard diff !

F D Flourite wrote:
I lost my previous mod post ;w;

[IYIYO & HAZU'S INSANE]
00:58:226 - A strong beat is skipped Fixed.
call me back

Thx xd

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Nao Tomori

osu! Alumni

3,106 posts

Joined December 2014

Nao Tomori 2018-01-29T00:33:03+00:00

placeholder (?) might be a while tho

iYiyo

1,107 posts

Joined January 2014

iYiyo 2018-01-29T01:41:15+00:00

F D Flourite wrote:
I lost my previous mod post ;w; i know that feeling uwu

[IYIYO & HAZU'S INSANE]
00:01:715 (3,4) - visual distance is too small slightly noticeable, but yes, fixed
00:25:436 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - 00:29:156 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - 00:32:877 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - completely covering sliderbodies each other is not helping at all under AR9. You should rotate them slightly to avoid perfect overlaps tbh I tried with something else but it isn't the same D:. If possible I'd like to keep this pattern because of the visual effect it produces which I think is pretty cool + it isn't hard to read because of ar9 imo

Thanks!

including hazu's fix

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Atsuro

1,290 posts

Joined January 2013

Atsuro 2018-01-29T02:33:18+00:00

K.O

Cloudchaser

2,327 posts

Joined May 2012

Cloudchaser 2018-01-29T02:34:12+00:00

totally not meme

Cris-

Beatmap Nominator

552 posts

Joined March 2015

Cris- 2018-01-29T04:21:28+00:00

F D Flourite wrote:
I lost my previous mod post ;w;

[CRIS'S NORMAL]
00:14:273 (1,2) - should keep consistency on 00:10:552 (1,2) - as there's no sound at 00:15:203 - You're right, fixed

Thank you

Update

osu file format v14

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TitleUnicode:HEKIREKI TV SIZE
Artist:LAST ALLIANCE
ArtistUnicode:LAST ALLIANCE
Creator:pkhg
Version:CRIS' NORMAL
Source:はじめの一歩 New Challenger
Tags:hajime no ippo opening iyiyo hazu- happyrocket88 cris- ラスト・アライアンス
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pkhg

2,507 posts

Joined May 2010

Topic Starter

pkhg 2018-01-29T21:09:02+00:00

F D Flourite wrote:
[HARD]
00:03:808 (11) - 00:07:529 (11) - why not shorten the combo lol measure based ncing
00:51:250 (6) - not NCing?i dont think its needed. its a more vocals based ncing so i nced where the snares are more prominent than voice 00:52:296 (1,2,3) -
call me back

fixed ncs on happy's easy

updated all diffs

Hazu-

3,881 posts

Joined July 2014

Hazu- 2018-01-29T21:22:38+00:00

owo

iYiyo

1,107 posts

Joined January 2014

iYiyo 2018-01-29T21:24:32+00:00

those 5 stars

F D Flourite

811 posts

Joined March 2013

F D Flourite 2018-01-29T22:39:25+00:00

1. Where's HappyRocket?

2. Combo length in Hard still feels greatly unbalanced. For example, you get 01:02:412 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - short combo on the part where music is not that intense, while 00:00:784 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - is 4-measure NC. 00:12:296 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - 1-measure NC, etc... I just don't get it

HappyRocket88

4,322 posts

Joined May 2014

HappyRocket88 2018-01-29T23:08:56+00:00

F D Flourite wrote:
1. Where's HappyRocket?

I'm here! Fixed everything! >.<

pkhg

2,507 posts

Joined May 2010

Topic Starter

pkhg 2018-01-29T23:19:26+00:00

i think what i did is just fine, it isnt a constant every1 measure pattern but makes perfect sense with the music
ncing every 1 or 2 results in short combos and harsh drain that can be seen in later parts of the map with a bit larger combos, every 3 doesnt makes sense cuz how music is structured so i though 4 was fine. it fits the music and fixes the hp problem along with the hp5 setting
i hope that explains what i did :d

01:03:459 (1) - removed this nc tho lol it was very out of place xd

F D Flourite

811 posts

Joined March 2013

F D Flourite 2018-02-03T21:10:55+00:00

ok, then. Won't bother on this too much

Nao Tomori

osu! Alumni

3,106 posts

Joined December 2014

Nao Tomori 2018-02-03T22:41:41+00:00

[ko]
00:14:970 (3,4,5,6,7,8) -
i dont think this pattern works too well because 7-8 have vocals on them but arent distinguished in any way - since your rhythm is mostly vocal focus highlighting the next vocal line would be better imo.

00:22:761 (2) - shouldnt this be circles? it'll follow the drums a bit better.

00:25:436 (1) - i think making the one after this (00:29:156 (1) - ) go clockwise makes more sense cuz atm you have 3 of them that go ccw ccw cw but thats kinda inconsistent and weird so if it was ccw cw ccw it would be nicer..

00:36:598 (1,2) - this sound pretty weird with clap on slider end but the pattern is completely the same as usual - why not circles?

01:06:133 (7) - nc or something

[yiyo + hazu]
00:08:226 (5,6) - i think ctrl g on this follows the snare rhythm better and more interesting to play

00:22:645 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - the song structure is 123 123 (listen to the snares.) so i think your pattern could reflect that some how. atm it feels more like all blended together, but a small visual change could represent the song structure well imo.

00:26:366 (1) - i don't see the reason to nc here cuz it's still the same instrument (guitar)

00:45:668 (5) - deleting this gives a nice effect and interesting rhythm

also using same pattern as 00:52:412 (2,3,4,5) - doesn't work nicely cuz they are clearly different in the song (since 5 in the first one is weaker, the double based rhythm is way more prominent)

[hard]
00:18:343 (2,3) - eee can u blanket

nice dif
[normal]
i think ar is generally too low, low ar also causes another issue where you have too much sliders. if you raise the ar to 5-6 then you can add in some more circles to make the kiai more interesting to play since atm there are not very many circles. since the hard diff has a lot of circles i do recommend trying to add some in. for example: 00:37:994 (3) - 00:51:715 (2) - 01:00:319 (4) - 00:23:110 (3) - etc etc. basically just make it more dense to spread a little better.

[easy]
00:49:389 (3,1,2) - i know it is distance snapped but i believe players will misread this since there is a 1/1 gap right before a 2/1 gap. try to unstack 3-1 so that there is a visual difference for them to notice.

iYiyo

1,107 posts

Joined January 2014

iYiyo 2018-02-03T23:06:48+00:00

Naotoshi wrote:
[yiyo]
00:08:226 (5,6) - i think ctrl g on this follows the snare rhythm better and more interesting to play fits fine, changed

00:22:645 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - the song structure is 123 123 (listen to the snares.) so i think your pattern could reflect that some how. atm it feels more like all blended together, but a small visual change could represent the song structure well imo. mmh tbh I don't want to change the pengaton shape cause plays pretty well n smooth imo, so I decided to just add NC every 3 beats, I think it's better now

00:26:366 (1) - i don't see the reason to nc here cuz it's still the same instrument (guitar) me neither, fixed xD

thanks!

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Hazu-

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Joined July 2014

Hazu- 2018-02-03T23:21:55+00:00

Naotoshi wrote:
[hazu]
00:45:668 (5) - deleting this gives a nice effect and interesting rhythm

also using same pattern as 00:52:412 (2,3,4,5) - doesn't work nicely cuz they are clearly different in the song (since 5 in the first one is weaker, the double based rhythm is way more prominent)

All fixed :d thx

updt + yiyo's updt

osu file format v14

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Version:IYIYO & HAZU'S INSANE
Source:はじめの一歩 New Challenger
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Cris-

Beatmap Nominator

552 posts

Joined March 2015

Cris- 2018-02-03T23:21:55+00:00

Naotoshi wrote:
[normal]
i think ar is generally too low, low ar also causes another issue where you have too much sliders. if you raise the ar to 5-6 then you can add in some more circles to make the kiai more interesting to play since atm there are not very many circles. since the hard diff has a lot of circles i do recommend trying to add some in. for example: 00:37:994 (3) - 00:51:715 (2) - 01:00:319 (4) - 00:23:110 (3) - etc etc. basically just make it more dense to spread a little better.

Ar up to 5 and od to 4. I think now is fine
About the sliders i think are fine, i don't want to make this diff more dense, also that sliders fits well with the vocals imo

Thanks nao!

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HappyRocket88

4,322 posts

Joined May 2014

HappyRocket88 2018-02-03T23:29:49+00:00

Naotoshi wrote:
[easy]
00:49:389 (3,1,2) - i know it is distance snapped but i believe players will misread this since there is a 1/1 gap right before a 2/1 gap. try to unstack 3-1 so that there is a visual difference for them to notice. yes

pkhg

2,507 posts

Joined May 2010

Topic Starter

pkhg 2018-02-04T19:37:38+00:00

Naotoshi wrote:
[ko]
00:14:970 (3,4,5,6,7,8) -
i dont think this pattern works too well because 7-8 have vocals on them but arent distinguished in any way - since your rhythm is mostly vocal focus highlighting the next vocal line would be better imo. 00:09:854 (2,3,4) - 00:11:947 (7,8) - 00:12:877 (3,4) - 00:16:366 (2,3,4) - as u can see i stacked 1/2 circles when voices denser and ive done the same during all the map except kiai cuz its kiai lo

00:22:761 (2) - shouldnt this be circles? it'll follow the drums a bit better. sr went up thanks

00:25:436 (1) - i think making the one after this (00:29:156 (1) - ) go clockwise makes more sense cuz atm you have 3 of them that go ccw ccw cw but thats kinda inconsistent and weird so if it was ccw cw ccw it would be nicer.. the direction is determined by the previous object 00:25:203 (4,1) - 00:28:924 (4,1) - 00:32:645 (4,1) - idk if u get what i mean

00:36:598 (1,2) - this sound pretty weird with clap on slider end but the pattern is completely the same as usual - why not circles? sr went up again thanks

01:06:133 (7) - nc or something no xd

[hard]
00:18:343 (2,3) - eee can u blanket no zzz

nice dif

added a muted sliderslide

also @cris: 00:14:273 (1,2) - 00:17:994 (1,2) - rhythm here should be http://puu.sh/zgC1w/328fd37f70.jpg dont u agree nao?

and if u have a problem with the placements i choose for the parts i changed to circles just tell me lo

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Cris- 2018-02-04T19:41:10+00:00

pkhg wrote:
also @cris: 00:14:273 (1,2) - 00:17:994 (1,2) - rhythm here should be http://puu.sh/zgC1w/328fd37f70.jpg dont u agree nao?

and if u have a problem with the placements i choose for the parts i changed to circles just tell me lo

Imo is fine, is consistent with 00:10:552 (1,2) - & 00:17:994 (1,2)

pkhg

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pkhg 2018-02-04T19:48:00+00:00

updated everything

hype

Nao Tomori

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Nao Tomori 2018-02-04T19:57:20+00:00

hmm i think either works for cris, his keeps all vocal at same object so i think its okay, yours also works well for vocal focus. seems like preference

will quali later

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Nao Tomori 2018-02-04T22:45:21+00:00

qualify

pkhg

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pkhg 2018-02-04T22:46:09+00:00

yes

iYiyo

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iYiyo 2018-02-04T22:53:42+00:00

\:D/

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Hazu- 2018-02-04T23:16:02+00:00

:d

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Cris- 2018-02-05T00:01:03+00:00

d:

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-Le-Pancho- 2018-02-16T00:14:50+00:00

este mapa me recuerda a cuando empece en osu! (unos 6 o 7 años atrás)
un amigo descargo este map que estaba en desarrollo.
verlo ahora aprobado me trae muy buenos recuerdos

(aun que tal vez el mapa de aquella ves era de otro creador, no me fije en el detalle- solo en la nostalgia)

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